The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub to discuss the fights from UFC 235.

five four three two dude i brought you to the dark side now you're playing quick i got my ass whooped yeah well you were in a fucking melee there's three other dudes and they're blasting it's a one-on-one map that map's chaos it's so fun though how fun is that shit it reminds me of golden eye did you ever get into that? How dare you? Nintendo 64? That was a great game, bro. That game can suck all the dicks.

You're using those stupid Xbox things. You mean a controller? Mouse and keyboard is where you're at. That's why you're getting fucked up. You don't even know how to move. It was hard for me to move back and forth. If it was a controller, game on. What?

For sure. Yeah, because nobody can move sure Yeah, because nobody can move Yeah, if nobody can move, then you're alright With controllers Listen, that fucking That game's chaos Jamie and I have been going back and forth For fucking four or five days now

You'd be surprised There are a couple guys that can compete A few That can compete with the mouse and keyboard I wouldn't be surprised I'm sure they can But they have zero life And they don't even know what a pussy looks like

But Quake is old school I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure they can, but they have zero life, and they don't even know what a pussy looks like. But Quake is old school. Quake's old school, right? Yeah. We're on Quake 4, but there's Quake Champions that you play online. We've been playing Quake 4 because we could set it up on what's called a local area network, a LAN, and it's real easy, and there's no latency. It's just direct from computer to computer. It's fun.

I was just thinking of the one guy. He's a really aggressive workout dude. What's that? The computer to computer. It's fun. I was just thinking of the one guy. He's a really aggressive workout dude. What's that? The guy that I'm thinking of. He's a video game player. Oh, he's really good? Yeah, his name is Nick Merckx. I'm only kidding. I'm sure he gets pussy. There's some good looking dudes. Yeah, I'm sure there are.

But it's not fun to say. No. It's fun to say that they weigh four pounds. You like to picture them as trolls. Yeah, and they can't find their dick. Yeah. But now those kids make bank. They do. And get hot chicks. They make so much money. There's even hot chicks who play video games.

Oh, yeah. Well, it's a good move for hot chicks. Twitch. Like, there's hot chicks that hunt because, like, and they wear makeup and shit, full eyelashes and shit. Yeah, I'm into that. Because it brings them into that world. I'm into that.

And all the guys are like, hey, look at her. She likes what I like. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah. Titties I like. Yeah. Titties and guns. And they're like, stay in front of like an endangered species with their tits out. Like there's hot girls that take Muay Thai class, right? And they get all serious, angry face.

Don't talk to anybody. Pretend they're real fighters. Let's relax. Some of them are real. Yeah, but let's relax. Some of them are not, though. Some of them get super serious. That's when I whisper like this. Let's relax.

Yeah. When they say, I don't like when people say, I'm going to train today. I'm like, what are you doing? Are you taking Pilates? Yeah. Are you training? That's not training. Are you training for what?

What are you training for? The apocalypse? Yeah, that doesn't count. Are you training for some dick? These goddamn games. They're so addictive. You were like straight up addicted to him right oh yeah i had a real problem well i kind of got a little bit of a problem now jamie and i've been talking back and forth he's up on me a little bit too that's why i have to kick jeff out every now and then just so jamie and i go one-on-one one-on-one last time i fucked him up and he hit he quit

well because me and je are easy prey, right? Jeff's not easy prey anymore. Jeff was easy prey for a little bit. If I won all these games, how long do you think we'd be here playing quick? True. You want to get anything done? If you won all these games? He's too competitive.

What are you saying? You lost 13 to 5 because you were trying real hard? You got fucked up, son. I lit you up. Dude, he's tanking. And you were talking shit too. He's tanking, he says. up, son. I lit you up. Dude, he's tanking. And you were talking shit, too. He's tanking, he says. Yeah, sure.

Fucked him up. Boom, bang, pow. The problem with having another person in the thing is he always goes after Jeff first, gets that easy kill. That's what I'm saying. Then he comes and gets me. I could barely get my fucking B quit. You guys were killing me right away.

No, Jeff's starting to win. He came real close to winning that last one. He's practicing while we're not watching. He's definitely practicing while we're not watching. That's awesome. Jeff should be playing right now. He's going to be smart. Yeah.

Well, I told him to fucking lift weights, too. I'm like, dude, you got this whole gym here. While the show's going on, watch the security camera. Get your pump on. Get jacked, son. He could. It's all out there. So let's talk about these fights.

Bro. First of all, let's So let's talk about these fights. Bro. First of all, let's start with Diego motherfucking Sanchez. All these young guns sleeping on Diego Sanchez. Fully redeemed himself. Do not sleep. Do not. Just do not. Just don't.

Because he will fuck people up still. How about Mickey Gall bid him? Do you see that? I saw that. That's crazy. There's a about Mickey Gall bit him? Do you see that? I saw that. That's crazy. There's a video of him biting him? Well, there's a video of Diego going, look at this shit. Yeah, Diego, I saw on his Instagram, he showed his chest where he got bit.

That is crazy. I thought they said Mickey Gall had a hard cut, like a really hard cut. Maybe that's one of the reasons he got so tired. I just don't think that so far, he's just the skills aren't there yet. He was out of his element a little bit with Diego. Like Diego outclassed him. Diego is a monster. I mean, you're dealing with a guy who has 40.

Look at that bite mark. That is crazy. Who bites? Who the fuck bites? Mickey Gall. Mickey Gall bites. Guys have bitten guys before. You can't be on my team.

Yeah. You're off the team. It's not good. It's a bad look. Me or Diego didn't say shit to the referee. He just kept smashing them. Dude, he is such a savage. He's a savage as they get.

He's been fighting since he was four years old in the UFC. He won Ultimate Fighter Season 1, 2005. 14 fucking years ago. He fought at middleweight. Yep. 14 fucking years ago fought at middleweight yep 14 fucking years ago you gotta stop and think about what an insane career that is and his last two fights um i think your last fight was craig white is that who he fought last smashed that dude smashed and then smashed mickey gall dude he he's the uh he's the mascot for jackson's right like there's a logo it's diego sanchez yeah and everybody knows that is brendan chobb's voice i sound like alec jones right now the thing is joe you don't a little bit not nearly not loud

enough yeah you're right yeah it's you sound like brendan chobb with a cold i don't see i don't feel sick you don't feel sick so it's just a sore throat yeah but how's your throat just go were you screaming at someone no i i was chilling i did two podcasts before this wolf howls or some shit i don't know sometimes my voice goes i'm not sick though oh that's so great that's weird because i am sick a little bit really yeah well i had it over the weekend yesterday i felt like dog shit do you work out i worked out uh not yesterday but saturday i worked out saturday probably wasn't a good idea they say when you work out when you're sick it makes it worse because your immune system's down i use your power to it too i lifted too and you know it's not smart no yeah but i i'm okay today i'm just like a little little worn out but

my voice is all right you just need some rest yeah yeah yeah i mean i'll be fine um traveling doesn't help no it's the worst man because always i always take the first flight back because i want to see my family and so you get no sleep yeah i got the that makes it worse yeah i was up at five um so mickey gall in that fight he asked for that fight that was a fight he was begging dana white to give him He thought it was a good fight for him He thought it was a good matchup Yeah I don't know why people think that I guess cause like He's been knocked out right

Al Iaquinta KO'd him Matt Brown KO'd him He's a big name Who's been doing it for a long time So these young guys go Oh I grew up watching him Let me get him Well I think they also think

He's been doing it for so long. And they're right. Yeah. But he's still so fucking tough, man. He has all the skills. Yeah, he still has all the skills. And his ground and pound is fucking ferocious. And once he's on the ground, then he doesn't, I mean,

if there's a hole in Diego's game, you would have to say against like elite strikers, he has a real problem. Correct. Against guys like Matt Brown. He's going to have problems. He's just not as fluid as those guys. Yeah, Diego's grappling is amazing.

Amazing. Amazing. And his ferocity cannot be questioned. He's just... Mental games are ridiculous. Savage. Just to think about the enthusiasm Diego has after all these years in the game. All these years in the game.

Unbelievable. Crazy. How many years? How many years? Well, what we know, 14 years in the game all these years in the game unbelievable crazy how many years how many years well what we know of 14 years in the ufc but he fought before that he was he was a veteran i mean he had several fights before the cage yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah crazy crazy how long he's been doing it and again how long he's been doing it and how much he loves it still and he says cbd is really helping him he's got his own cbd 2002 god damn that motherfucker's 17 years in years he fought michael johnson in 2000 is that the same michael johnson no way

michael was six years old what's that his name would probably be tagged there if it was yeah it would right that That's not Michael Wow he fought Shannon Rich On his third fight Shannon Rich has like a million fights Click on Shannon Rich Look at my guy man The Joker

Old school 2003 Click on Shannon Rich How many fights has he had? I'm gonna say he's got How many Does it say? Holy shit

Does it say his record? 53 in 79 Jesus Christ It's the worst record i've ever seen that's crazy that is crazy shout out to that guy though for keeping with it you know that is crazy he's lost 79 times jesus christ 42 kickboxing oh my god and 42 kickboxing matches jesus christ but kickboxing he's kind of killing it 35 and 7 not bad but that's an insane amount of experience but just stop and think about 17 years in diego still slinging and so much enthusiasm that's the crazy part it's not just that he's fighting that he fights he's fucking

angry he's got his own cbd company now he gave me some of it any good i haven't tried it yet he just gave he gave me some bottles of his stuff but he's he really believes in cbd a lot of fighters do it's helping them a lot i swear by it yeah it's amazing amazing stuff spectrum cbd that's what i yeah it's i mean there's so many good companies now but uh you know another fight that was crazy how about colby and pedro munoz arez? Are you talking about Colby? Well, you skip past Zabit and Jeremy Stephens, which I thought... Crazy. Crazy and no.

I mean, for Zabit to beat the number six guy in the world, it was good. Good fight. What'd you think? I didn't think it helped Zabit's stock because there's so much hype on him. You didn't think so? I think he looked great. You didn't think he looked great. You didn't think he looked great? Really?

Well, first of all, he's fighting Jeremy Stevens. Agree. Jeremy Stevens is fucking dangerous. One of the best. You can't make any mistakes with that guy. Zero. You didn't think he looked good? I thought he looked okay.

I didn't think his Stock went through the roof with that fight. You didn't walk away from that fight going, oh my God, I can't wait to see him fight again. Wow. I thought he looked good. But when you hear Mark Henry's coach talk about him, I mean, they talk about him like he's the next fucking... Did you see that 360 roundhouse kick he tried? Yeah, that missed.

I was like, jeez. He's athletic as shit. He's so fast. He's really fast. And his round kick to the body is just so fast, like lightning. Amazing. He's such a talent. Such a talent yeah

so technical too everything he does is very smooth doesn't get hit doesn't play that game no no doesn't play the game that cody garbrandt played with pedro the cody fight was crazy i just three losses in a row three knock three kos in a row i just couldn't believe he was standing with him like that he got him hurt and then he got hurt and then he was determined to take him out and then they were literally going right hand right hand right hand until someone fell yeah and pedro can take a shot so can cody yeah they both ate shots he ate some big ones but it makes no sense if you're cody so technical i know it doesn't make any sense he said it was a headbutt he said he got headbutt And then just saw Rhett Well he definitely did

He definitely got headbutted Very Aaron Pico-ish And he talked about it He said he saw Rhett Like got angry After he got headbutted Yeah Yeah you can't do that

Yeah you gotta fight And tell it I mean obviously It's super easy for us to say You know sitting here Drinking coffee Yeah don't fight Don't fight angry bro

You know it's easy to say But That's also what makes him so dynamic Agree it's what got him to the party But as a bro. It's easy to say. But that's also what makes him so dynamic. I agree. It's what got him to the party. But as a former fighter, it's like coming off two losses, which I've been there, you're usually a little more like, all right, I'm not going to go down that road. I've been knocked out twice.

I know how that ends. If I get hit, let's learn from our mistakes. That's what's the troubling part. Yeah, and he has a speed advantage. Pedro Munoz has very good timing, but I think Colby has a speed advantage. Technique and speed on the field. On the ground, it's all Pedro. On the feet, it's Cody all day.

I mean, Cody Garber is still only 27 years old and still could be world champion again. No doubt about it. Three losses, Pedro Munoz, okay, he played that game loss. But then the other two are TJ Dillashaw. Right. right okay so the champ has your number who gives a fuck and in both of those fights he hurt tj dillashaw he's just got to be more cautious and fight more technical more disciplined yeah you know i mean it wouldn't be a bad idea to get some mental coaching you know get some game plan coaching which he might have been doing i don't know yeah i'm just speculating and i don't know who he's training is striking with either but you know to mix things up more and be more unpredictable would also be a good thing i

mean obviously the the last exchanges were just not predictable at all or i mean not unpredictable at all fully predictable just right hand Just right hand, right hand, right hand. Just chaos. And think about his last win, he beat Dominic Cruz, which is you've got to be cerebral in that fight to beat Dominic Cruz. Yeah, he had Dom's number. It was a different kind of fight. It's interesting, Dom said that he did the exact thing that Cody did in their fight, that he got hit and he got emotional and he fought reckless. Dom did.

Yeah, and that Dom went after Cody that way. Interesting. Yeah. He said, I know after Cody that way. Yeah. He said, I know what it's like. You just lose your game plan. You start, you get wild. Yeah. It's just, it's hard to see him get KO'd three times in a row like that.

He's going to be fine. I hope so. He's going to be fine. I hope so. He'll learn from it. But here's the thing. When you're ranked, was he number two in that division? It's not like, all right, let's give you a warm-up fight.

Right. It's not boxing. There's no warm-ups right he's gonna get jimmy rivera or fucking stir al germain al germain yeah it's like and you know those guys might argue that they don't want him because he's lost three times in a row jimmy rivera's coming off lost two that's true sterling actually called him out which is weird because he's ranked you know he's ranked five i think but he's coming off a huge win. Right. So with Sterling, it's like that doesn't—

Sterling called out Covington? Yeah. I mean, Garbrandt? Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying Colby Covington already because I'm already thinking about him. That motherfucker's good at marketing. Yeah.

Well, he's good at talking shit and getting his name out there, and it's the best thing for the welterweight division right now after Usman just dominated Tyron Woodley. I was blown away by that fight. Me too. Blown away. You and I were texting each other. It was weird because I had people around my house to watch the fights. And they were like, God, this fight's so boring. And I look online like, God, this is brutal.

I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is one of the greatest title fight performances I've ever seen. Ever. For him to do that to Woodley and dismantle him, you don't understand. You have no idea what you're watching. Yeah. It's fucking insane.

It's not just insane that he dismantled him, which is for sure insane, but also his fucking gas tank. Usman was pushing on the pedal For five fucking rounds Never let off the gas How about the way he looked In between rounds Yeah

To me it was his mentality Yep When you look from the first round As soon as they break it up Yep And then You ready? He's standing there like this

I'm like oh shit Do you know that the word was That he had a fractured foot? Correct So he took a fucking cortisone shot Coming into that fight Imagine that Savage Imagine that. Imagine that.

And still, no problems with his endurance. Apparently didn't train the whole week of. Just didn't do shit. Still made the weight. No problem. But think about what he has to do. His coach is going, all right, you got to go in there. You got to out-grapple, out-maneuver Tyrone Woodley, who's one of the best welterweights

of all time. Well, he outdid everything. Who doesn't get taken down. He outdid everything. Who doesn't get taken down. Yeah. Who doesn't get taken down. And Woodley also taken down. Yeah, who doesn't get taken down. And Woodley also was kind of, I don't know, he's 37.

I don't know if he just didn't show up, what happened. I think he's 36. Is he 36 or is he 37? Either way, same thing. Either way, he's been doing it for a hot second. This is why I feel bad for Woodley. Maybe you know, Joe. But Woodley was always that guy where he didn't get along

with Dana. He was kind of difficult to deal with, did it his way and made some demands, won the big fight. And then it never happened for him. Right. He just, he was in a big draw. And, but he could get away with that when he was champ. Right.

Now that he's not champ, the road for him to get back is going to be so fucking tough because of what he did when he was champ. Yeah. That's why I feel bad for Woodley. And he's one of the greatest to ever do it And he's one of the greatest to ever do it. He is one of the greatest to ever do it. And I was making the argument before this fight that you could argue that if he beats Usman,

he is the greatest. Correct. The greatest is Georges Saint-Pierre, right? He's the legend at welterweight. You look at his career. I mean, how many years was Georges a champ for? Was it six years or something crazy like that? Yeah, the most title.

So you have George, Matt Hughes, and Woodley. Matt Hughes has legend status because he was the original, right? He was, I mean, he was the first wrestler that really developed rock-solid submission skills. The fights with Frank Trigg. I mean, when he armbarred George St. Pierre in their first fight. I mean, he was amazing. But then the new school was George. You know, George was the best welterweight of all time.

But I was saying that he's in the running right now. If you consider the opponents he beat, Wonderboy twice, knocks out Robbie Lawler to win the title, and then goes on from there, beats Damian Maia. I mean, you look at how he beat Darren Till. For some reason, he was an underdog in the Darren Till fight,

which didn't make any sense to me. Everybody got excited. I got excited too. I thought Darren Till was going to win that. Really? I did. See, I thought Darren Till

was very good, but I did not. Too much? I never saw him on the ground. I never saw a real wrestler take him down and ground and pound. I didn't know what he had off his back.

See, I think Darren Till's going to be a problem for Usman. What? Really? His size. Yeah, I think he's going to be a problem. And Darren is committed to 170 still? Is he still? I think especially now that 170.

Because what is, if you are a fan of fighting, what is fun is Woodley being out. The welterweight division is so fun. Right. Because now Usman, Col you got ben act ben askren there now darren till has a shot to be a champion well i'll tell you what even though robbie lawler lost that fight god damn he looked good he looked good physically like at the way and he looked jacked the best i've ever seen him he looked amazing apparently he had a tremendous strength and conditioning routine for this. He looked so good. Yeah, he looked real good. And he was fighting fucking ferocious, like the Robbie Lawler of old. He didn't look at all diminished.

And I think maybe the time off was good for him because he had to get ACL surgery. Yeah. So he might have been dealing with something before his last fight. We don't know. Do you think maybe it was too where ben askren's very so one-dimensional he didn't have to worry about the striking at all um there's a little bit of that for sure but the fucking fight started because he launched ben askren into the air and slammed him on his fucking head which is crazy how tough is tough as shit here's the other

thing yes ben won controversially we don't know was still, what, two minutes left in that fight? Dude, I've been watching the replay. With that bulldog choke. Yeah. With that much time, it could have got pretty dice for fucking... Robbie Lawler. Robbie Lawler. Could have got dicey.

We can't just chalk up... Go to Ben's... Ben, I think he put it on his Twitter or his Instagram page. We see Robbie Lawler's arm go limp. Dude, it goes limp. Now, here's the question. Did it go limp because he just let it go? Because he was trying to just let it go.

Because he's trying to just hang on. Because the choke, he was like, he's squeezing really hard. He's going to tire his arms out. That's what Robbie said. It wasn't under his chin, though. But here's the thing. People need to stop saying that you have to be under the chin to choke a guy unconscious. No, you can do both.

You can choke a guy unconscious across his face. For sure. You can go across the face right like this. And if you have a real squeeze, you have like a Marcelo Garcia squeeze, you could put a guy to sleep. Think how strong Ben is, too. Ben has a real squeeze. Phenomenal squeeze. Yeah, he's strong as fuck.

And he's in this position. With that bulldog, you can get a lot of leverage in that position. I mean, I don't know how he's in this position With that bulldog You can get a lot of leverage In that position I mean I don't know How he's gripping his hands You know how much more Torque you can get With his whole body

Amazing torque So I don't know If he went out And then Ben let him Go a little bit And then he popped Right back awake That's what he's saying

Your natural movement though If you go If you're fighting a choke Your natural movement Is to hold on to it is not to go limp that's true that's true that's where i'm like all right maybe he was out we thought he was out yes i thought he was out but in all fairness i thought ben was out earlier me too i thought they were gonna stop i thought they were gonna stop it robbie slamming i'm like

he's out he's out he was fucked i thought he was out but damn he can take a fucking shot he can take a fucking shot because robbie hit him with some hammers. I was nervous for that fight. Woo! It was crazy. We hyped him up so much. I know. We hyped him up so much.

We hyped him up so much. And he came in with that uber dad bod. I was like, damn, his chest is terrible. But let's figure this out. Let's see. Do you have a video of it? I just checked both of his pages. I don't see

He posted it earlier He posted it today I think it was a Twitter Yeah, I think it was Twitter And I think maybe he might have either reposted it or replied to it Or reposted it with a comment No, he says this is what happened It's just a comment

Okay, well let's see it When he said this is what happened Then go to whatever he was commenting on I think it's the handle And then you'll Then go to whatever he was commenting on I think it's the hand And then you'll see the video Whatever he was commenting on Is the video The only thing is

Basically they were saying In the video that he See let's check it out here Jack Sparrow There it goes See carefully You'll see that Ben Loosened his chalk

Choke a little bit And then Herb Dean touched Click on that Click on that It goes to a long thread Yeah but if you go to the top of that thread you'll see the video there it is right there the top right there watch this so check this out watch look at the arm see that right there that's not a normal move but but look but robbie does give him the thumbs up that's the other thing that

you're not seeing it's not a normal movement but it is a tight squeeze. It does look like his arm went limp. I think it went out for a second and came to. Well, Herb said, what Herb is saying is he told Ben to stop when the arm went limp. When the arm went limp, Ben said is that he's lightening up, and then he lightened up, and then Robbie came back to life. That's fair. That is entirely possible, folks. It's entirely possible. I do not know.

But I do know that Robbie Lawler is a classy motherfucker because he complained for a little bit. What the fuck? All right, man. Good job. Good fight. He's been in the game so long. He can see him and goes, oh, fuck.

He's got a great attitude. He's the best. He really does. He's got a great attitude. And I don't think his stock dropped in that fight. I really don't. Fuck no. No, I really don't.

And I would like to see the rematch. I don't. Well, dropped in that fight I really don't Fuck no No, I really don't And I would like to see the rematch I don't Well, I want to see it again I mean, he says no, but Ben says no Yeah, Ben says he didn't want to fight him in the first place Why would you? Fucking right

Fucking right He's a murderer But he was so amped up for that fight too He was so angry And like you could see in his face He knew what this meant Dude, how about Ben versus Usman? That's a motherfucking fight yeah

yeah oh darren till yeah ben your performance is shit you barely won you're ugly as fuck your chin is too big not to miss you have no respect for no one oh did i say you're a curly headed fuck see you in london muppet well till has a tough fight in london though too yeah mazda is no joke man mazda is a very technical guy London though too. Yeah Masvidal's no joke man. Masvidal's a very technical guy. He's got good wrestling too man. He's good at everything. Yep very good at everything and very good wrestling and I think that's probably where he's going to

try to put Darren Till after that Woodley fight. That's a tough fight man. It's a bad situation for Woodley man because people are going to say oh he was doing all that stuff with TMZ. Oh, he's got a rap album coming up. He's opening for, he's doing rap concerts.

That's fair though, right Joe? It is fair. That's fair criticism. It is fair. Because I've always been on that side of, and you know more than anyone, you told me to get the fuck out, is when you're one foot in.

Yep. Because what's Usman doing when Woodley's in the studio creating beats? Going hard. Going hard. Usman is all in. He's all in. You think Usman wants to show, if I went up to Usman doing when Woodley's in the studio going hard going hard Usman is all in he's all in you think Usman wants to show if I went up to Usman like hey dude I'll pay for a show for you to on TMZ you go get the fuck out of my face right get the fuck out of my face that's

what he's gonna say get the fuck he'll probably get angry at you get the fuck out of my face with that TMZ shit dude I was I was telling everybody for years people have been scared of Usman. For years. But now you see why. Before you were seeing people were scared of him, but he wasn't beating anybody that was world class. He wasn't getting those top ten guys. Damian Maia, right? Yeah, we got Dos Anjos.

The Damian Maia fight will forever be marred by the fact they separated them when Damian had one hook in. He was trying to take his back dude was that fucking uh homeboy the guy who kept standing them up was that goddard what the fuck are you doing what are you doing let's see who that was go go to uh damien maya versus um kamaru usman and see who who separated them because the ref matt uh matt the terra sera was going fucking crazy about that, and he's 100% right. Do you know how difficult it is to get a hold of a guy like Usman like that

and to have one hook in standing up and to be working to take his back and for them to separate him? It is nonsense. Pure nonsense. Do you know how much harder it is? That's hard. How much harder it is to take Woodley down and control him? Yes.

And then you stand him up. Yep, yep. If I'm Usman, I went, what the fuck are you doing, dude? Yeah, but I mean, you stop and think. You take Woodley down and control him. Yes. And then you stand him up. Yep. Yep. If I'm Usman, I went, oh, what the fuck are you doing, dude? Yeah, but I mean, you stop and think. You take him down. You take him down. You stop and think about Damian Maia's last fight, right? Who the fuck did he just choke unconscious?

He choked the fuck out of. Who was that? Who was it? Who did he just choke out? Someone really good. Young kid that they fed him. Okay, so here it is. Nope, that's not Goddard.

Who is it? It's the bald feller. Which bald feller? So here's, it's hard to tell who that referee is. I can't see the face. So Usman and them, they're exchanging. Oh, Usman cracked him. Who is it?

Is it Chris Tione? I know two referees. I know three. No, it's Leon. Yeah. Okay. Well, for whatever reason. What was Goddard thinking, though?

I don't know what he was thinking. And then he threw shade online at John Anik. What did he say? He said your commentary was off, so was Anik's. That my commentary was off? Yeah. Okay. I don't know what I did to say.

I didn't say anything bad about Mark Goddard. I said I disagree with him standing up. I don't know why he said the commentary was off, but Dominic Cruz did say that he can't wrestle. And the reason why he's standing him up is because he can't wrestle. Mark Goddard? Yes. No, he was saying that about Mark Goddard. Correct.

He was saying the referee can't wrestle. He threw shade at Goddard? Yes. No, he was saying that about Mark Goddard. Correct. He was saying the referee can't wrestle. He threw shade at Goddard. I have nothing but respect for Goddard, although I don't agree with his decision in that fight. I do not agree with stand-ups. I don't like stand-ups, period. I like Mark Goddard. I do, too. I think he's a great referee.

In that moment, he's wrong. Well, he's probably very emotional. You know how hard it is? Yes. But listen, your job is not to intervene the trajectory of the fight. Your job is to protect the fighters. Don't fuck up Usman's biggest fight of his life by standing up.

Because what happens if he stood him up and Woodley goes, you know what, finally I feel good. Knocks him out. That's on you, Goddard. You fucked him. Yeah, it can happen. What did he say about me? He didn't specifically call you out. What did he say?

There he is. the only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co-coms commentators regulation observation of actual events i will whoop joe rogan's ass that's whoa that's so rude i didn't see that i just made that up The only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co-com's recollection and observation of actual events. I'll save my side for later. Well, that doesn't make any sense. Recollection of actual events. I don't know what he's trying to say there. And co-coms.

I didn't say anything bad about him other than I don't agree with the stand-ups. And that's not bad. But Dominic Cruz said that he can't wrestle. And I don't know if Mark Goddard could wrestle. I know he knows how to referee. I know this. Compared to Dominic Cruz said that he can't wrestle. And I don't know if Mark Goddard could wrestle. I know he knows how to referee. I know this. Compared to Dominic Cruz, he cannot wrestle. So Dominic's fine to say that.

Also, John Anik going hard in the paint's awesome. Yeah, you are way off. Well, it's wildly inconsistent is correct. Because Herb Dean is the gold standard, in my opinion. And Herb Dean, even though that thing with Robbie Lawler is controversial, I kind of look at it and I go, the arm went limp, man. I can see how he made that mistake. I can see that.

I think it's unfortunate, and it may have been a mistake, but it might not have been a mistake. Agree. I'm still not at all. Look, man, his job is fucking way harder than mine. A hundred times harder. Herb Dean's job is to protect the fighters and to stop fights

and to make calls. I don't want to be that guy. That guy gets fucking hated on and never loved. Herb never gets loved. No one likes him. No one ever gets loved. But with Mark Goddard,

don't be the guy trying to... Okay, John replied. He said, I always try to be respectful. We just call it like we see it too, but there's an arrogance with which you deal

with the fighters, commentators, and many in the sport. Get him, John. And i find it off-putting whoa one man's take and i'm quite sure you'll give yours to for everyone to hear wow manic world star damn damn okay so i believe john eck referred to the inconsistent between each referee's decisions of when to separate the fighters. And John said, exactly, that's what I was referring to. That two of the consensus best referees of the game would handle those two situations so differently. I understand the athletes are different, but there are parallels to be drawn. John is 100% correct. 100%.

100% correct. Come at us, bro. I feel bad that Mark Goddard responded the way he did because it's not very professional, and I think it's very emotional, and I think he's probably just feeling the heat. Yeah. Yeah. I went hard on him. Yeah, you feel that heat and you get angry, you know, but I like Mark Goddard.

I like him a lot. I think he's a very good referee. I think he's top one or two refs in the business. I love Mark Goddard. He fucked that up. My question is, I wonder who is telling them they should stand things up when they shouldn't stand things up. It's the pressure he feels.

The pressure he feels. From the audience, you think? From the crowd. Maybe. It could be that. British people are very nice. Sometimes in English people, they're more accommodating. You got to know what you're dealing with, man.

When you got two world-class wrestlers and this guy's impossible to take down, he's one of the best of all time. Yep. Let it go. Let it go. Well, I think let it go, period. I just, I do not agree with stand-ups because I think if a guy can hold you down, like this I was saying about Ben Askren, if a guy like Ben Askren can hold you down and give you

noogies until the fight's over. Do something about it. Yeah, do something about it. Exactly. Do something about it. He's not cheating. No. If he's not cheating, keep it up.

Do you know how hard it is to control Woodley on the ground? It's impossible. And you only have five fucking minutes. You have five minutes to sink a choke in, five minutes to hold on to him and beat him up. And look, all credit to Usman. He didn't even fucking care. He got stood back up, didn't complain, went right back at him and took him down again. Took him down again.

He's a monster. Cool story, bro. He is fucking hard to deal with, man. Tough fight for Colby. For everyone on the planet Earth. But stylistically, when you look at the fight for colby i look at what colby does well yeah he does that he does that the thing about usman is he's got power he's got striking he's got wrestling but even maybe more importantly cardio for days

here oh his mind his mind's a fucking bank vault it's fort. It's Fort Knox. You're not getting in there. I'm so impressed. I'm so on his dick. How adorable was it, him with his little daughter? Oh, dude. I almost cried. You're such a bitch. Me too. I'm such a bitch.

I'm going to cry right now. I've become a bigger pussy than I've kids. Me too. Me too. Don't play the video game. I saw his little daughter. I'm like, oh. I know, man.

So cute. And just how happy he was. His mom and wife were real extra, though. They're like P. Diddy in a bad video. Extras? Hey, man. They wanted in so bad. He's the champ of the world.

Can you imagine what it feels like to have your husband win the fucking world welterweight title and to beat Tyron Woodley? No, I can't. Fuck, man. I tell my wife, take a hot back seat. Get the fuck out of here. And my mom sure as fuck wouldn't be in the cage

hey man i feel like when someone wins like that they could do whatever they want i mean connor's mom's always in the cage his dad's she's not trying she's not that's true throwing out promo codes listen man and usman i feel like he's only like What is he 31 or 32? How old is Usman? He's 32 He's a fucking savage He can be the champ for a long time He scared me He's not Dude have you seen how big he is in person?

Of course you have Of course I have But when he's not cutting He's giant He came to my Palm Beach show I went what the fuck are you doing? How much do you weigh? I don't know we're the same size

No Yeah He's fucking huge Well he gets He scared me Look at the size of him He scared me Yeah well he size of him He scared me Yeah well he's

But he's big Like a super athlete Not like a bodybuilder Gotta get your dick out of my face Guzman Like when you look at The way Tyron is big Tyron's more thick

Like his legs are thicker Short and thick Yeah Tyron's Look at the height difference Look at his fucking back Look at the wingspan He's so tall

Look how tall he is man And wide He looks scary With his face painted like that We're ogling him Dude I'm on his nuts so hard right now I'm on his nuts too

He's a monster The face paint thing Was a last minute decision too Susie had to do his face Susie the makeup lady She had to do his face I love Susie She's the best

She was the best She's such a nice lady But they had to make sure that they had the right color paint you know to do the nigerian flag on his face dude he might be champ for a long time there's great matchups oh my god welterweight is so fucking fun and don't sleep on masvidal folks you know jorge masvidal still is capable of beating something. Remember when he fucked up Cowboy? Masvidal is the real deal. He's the real deal. Darren Till, man, he's my dark horse.

You think so? I think so. Unless he goes 85, but he's a motherfucker. You know what happened in that Till fight with Woodley? He didn't land a single significant strike in two rounds. He didn't land anything in the first round, and he didn't land anything in the second round. Just understand that. That's not funny.

This is the big show. This is the world title shot. You come out to fucking Neil Diamond, Sweet Caroline, the whole deal. I love that. Everybody's singing along. It's wonderful.

That's London. But, but, but, he lands nothing. All right, well, here's this. Woodley threw one punch in five rounds. No, that's not true. Shit happens. You know what I'm saying?

Woodley was very tentative. Well, he was doing the smart thing. The smart thing is you wait and you counter because Woodley's so goddamn fast. That smart thing paid off when he landed that big right hand, dropped him. And then the other problem with Darren Till is that on the ground, on his back, he didn't have anything. He didn't have anything offensive. Well, he was rocked. He was rocked, too.

For sure. But if you can move, you've got to be able to do something to protect yourself and something to tie. He also didn't see the choke coming. That also could be because he was rocked. Look, if you look at the way he dispatched Cowboy, insanely impressive. If you look at the way he beat Wonderboy, also impressive. I mean, Wonderboy's a world-class striker.

Don't forget about Wonderboy. And he beat him and dropped him. Wonderboy Ousmane. Wonderboy's a hard code to crack. He's a hard code to crack, yes. And especially if Wonderboy has some time off to recover. He's had some time off. Gone through those two big five-round, three five-round fights.

The Till fight was a five-round fight as well. Till fight, yeah. So those are hard, man. They're hard on your body, hard going through training camp. And I want to say that I think Wonderboy had a knee injury too that he might have gotten surgery on. And his hand maybe.

But the point is... I don't know about the knee. That might have made up the knee. The point is the welterweight division is fun as fuck. Fucking every division is fun as fuck. Bantamweight just opened up with Pedro Munoz.

Light heavyweight's kind of crunk now too. Yeah. Johnny fucking Walker. Yeah, dude. How about Johnny Walker? Okay. Stephen Thompson said his movement was out the window after Darren Kill knee kick out.

Okay. He's also saying that he doesn't think that those kicks should be allowed, which is crazy for someone to say that kicks people in the head. Spinning wheel kicks people in the head. Okay. It says it was almost like the dude was trying to put me out. Thompson told Ariel Helwani. Yeah.

Yeah, bro. He was definitely trying to kick him. Goddamn cage fight. He hit me in the knee, and after that, my movement was pretty much out the window. I was more focused on keeping my knee. It was just another thing to think about out there. Well, that's a strange attitude. You know, I mean, maybe that comes because he came from a karate background

and not a Muay Thai background. On the show, Thompson said he was unsure if targeting the knee with that kick like that is legal. Well, I will tell you, it's legal. It's definitely legal. As Whitaker. So are heel hooks, which are way worse. I mean, so his knee's fucked up.

He says, hopefully it's nothing major, but it sucks, man. It really does. Disappointed by the whole situation and coming out of it with an injury like that. It only makes it all worse. He has a fight coming up. Yeah. Pettis.

Oh, that's right. So he must've healed it up or got surgery or whatever. I just, I don't understand that. I don't understand that kind of thinking. I mean, I don't,

he said, I was trying to hit the guy hard. I really was. I was just saying, unable I was trying to hit the guy hard or really was. I was just saying, unable to put myself in a situation to do so. And the reason for that is because

he kicked your knee. Which is a technique. Yeah, it's a technique. John uses it all the time. It's a fucking legit technique. It's good. Whitaker used it against Romero. Look, I don't,

yes, and Romero used it against Whitaker in the first fight. That's where Whitaker got it. Whitaker went, oh, we doing that? And he went right after it. Cool story.

Yeah, you fucked my knee up in the first fight, I'm going to fuck your knee up in the second fight. Listen, it is just as valid and maybe safer than kicking someone in the head. It's easier to do, for sure, than kicking someone in the head. But so what? If you can kick someone in the fucking head with a wheel kick, that is the worst thing you can do to a person. When a boy has no point there. He's just sad about the fight yeah it just it's unfortunate but again i think a lot of that is because he came from that karate background and he came from a above the waist style karate

background initially you know when duke rufus was cornering his brother rick rufus when rick rufus fought uh i forget the gentleman's name from thailand um i think lawrence kenshin has it as the most important kickboxing match in history god damn i forget who that because we realized how critical because this was when rick rufus was in his prime he was the man he was the man i mean rick rufus the jet he would do wild shit man jump 360 turning side kicks to the face he would hit guys and knock them out with hook kicks and front leg round. Here he goes. Chang, try this name.

Chang Phuket Kiat Songrit. I fucked that up, I'm sure. It's a hard pass for me. Duke would have said it. Duke would have said the name perfect. But the point is, at the end of the fight, after the Thai gentleman destroyed Rufus' legs and stopped him, The Thai gentleman destroyed Rufus' legs and stopped him. Duke, who's a world champion himself, said that he didn't think that it took any skill to do that.

Because that's how a lot of those Thai guys thought. Watch the end of this, man. Wow. Watch the end of this. He can't walk. He can barely walk, but watch. They say, go ahead. And this dude comes out.

He goes, he knows what to do. Here we go. Jesus Christ. He just, whack. Dude, think if you don't know what to do. That would hurt so bad. And this dude comes out. He goes, he knows what to do. Here we go. Jesus Christ. He just, whack. Dude, think if you don't know what to do. That would hurt so bad. And this dude's a beast, too. Look at the thighs on this dude. Whack.

He's just fucking those legs up. Hands up high and just whack. Look at this. Dude, who's the ref? Well, they didn't know any better back there. He's wearing some dope shit. Look at it. That's how they did it back there with the karate.

The ref wore a fucking karate gi. Yeah, hell yeah. Look at that. The ref's got a black belt on. Fuck yeah, he does. Look at that. Whack. Whack. back there with the karate. The ref wore a fucking karate gi. Yeah, hell yeah. Look at that. The ref's got a black belt on. Fuck yeah, he does. Look at that. Whack.

Whack. Kicked him in the ass. Yeah, those leg kicks and that was it. So after it was over, Duke, who I think was only like 19 at the time, said he didn't think that took any skill. Obviously, Duke doesn't think that now. He evolved and became a world Muay Thai champion himself. Correct. It's just-

Ignorance is bliss. But that sort of stuff. There he is right there. Look at that young baby face, Duke Roof. Let's play it so we can hear him say it. Back it up a little so I can hear him say that. were the only thing that stopped him. The guy did not touch me anywhere else in the body.

I think that Rick should have won the fight. He had the guy out. There are three major fouls, but it's the way the cookie crumbles tonight. He said later that he didn't think that it took skill to do that, which is, he just didn't know. He just doesn't know. Look at this.

Motherfucker kicks so hard, too. That style is so good The Thai style Is so god damn good It's so good Their head movement's not Yeah Well

The Thai style With The other techniques Is the best If you got that Thai style But you know how to throw sidekicks You know how to throw everything else Wonderboy

Darren Taylor Yeah John Jones John Jones John Jones was throwing a fucking Throwing everything Arsenal of kicks It's very interesting watching him man

He's doing a lot of side kicks now And spinning back kicks Turning side kicks How about the kicks landing to the body Yeah He's throwing a lot of side kicks He throws a lot of everything man But he fucks you up

He's just And he's so good At keeping guys in the back foot And just Just taking away their arsenal I want to say this, though, because this is something that's coming up and it's actually kind of pissing me off.

What's that? There's a bunch of people that have been saying, should Anthony Smith have laid down after he took that illegal knee and won the title? Who said this? Ariel Helwani. A bunch of other people said it.

I think Ariel was suggesting or asking whether or not he should have some beta male shit well it's crazy because the guy should be praised for he ate the knee he was okay and then he wasn't even thinking about quitting yeah it even that didn't go through my mind it went through my mind that someone might do that some people not with anthony smith not when i've seen him fight before no that wasn't even a thought no nope nope it wasn't a thought i don't agree and i wasn't like oh we should all give him praise for this i was like well no why would he do that well that's that's who he is but some people like let's be honest and i think chael son would probably admit to this if he took that illegal knee he might say that's it can't go on sorry we get the win and keep going

yeah well you get the win yeah i mean you get the win you get the title you get a rematch i could be wrong chael might disagree you might say no i'm a competitor when i'm in there i wouldn't wouldn't think that way not at his not now his age yeah but the bottom line is like some people were actually actually suggesting that that that would be a good option that he was many people suggested i saw several people and that the fans went hard on these people that suggested it like you're out of your fucking mind you're out of your fucking mind he's getting outclassed that'd be such a bitch move well unless he actually couldn't go on yeah but we all saw he could because he goes i'm fine he goes no no i'm fine i'm fine yeah exactly that, no, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine. Yeah, exactly. That's Anthony Smith. I actually think Anthony Smith's stock went higher now.

Yes. Because we go, oh, shit. No, he's top five for sure. And he looked very good in the first round. The first round looked very good. How about his takedown defense? Yes, very good. Very good.

John started figuring him out. And John is so good at forcing you to fight his fight and being first. He's so good at being first first with the kicks first of the punches first forward you know he doesn't give you a chance and that's the thing with anthony smith anthony smith's chance was to always be first if you watch anthony smith's fights prior he was a bulldozer comes at you john went that's what you do cool i'll put you on your back foot you go first not in my not in my night i'm gonna go first he also then anthony smith was defensive the entire time yeah trying to hand fight he just took away all his tools he also

fought very technically in the first first round it was he didn't just swing at him anthony oh yeah felt very technical john actually in the first round got a little wild i felt like he almost felt the pressure of being a you know favorite. Really? You think so? We've never seen John throw those wild punches in that first round. He was trying to get them out there. Then he went, you know what? This isn't going to be as easy as I thought. Recalculated and then dismantled him.

Yeah, I mean, he's the best of all time. By far. By far the best. But who in that division can fuck with him now? I mean, Thiago Santos. Yeah. Which is, look, Santos is a wild card that motherfucker can knock out anybody i would have liked to see johnny walker not blow his shoulder out celebrating

he's fine though what listen man he couldn't move his arm he came in the back and they didn't they're waiting till i think today but in the back after he went i'm actually good now okay so what that must have mean that must mean that he dislocated it and then they popped it back in place. So it could be fine or there could be some significant tearing inside that allowed it to dislocate and that could be a problem in the future. Let's say it's fine though. Let's hope it's fine. He's still not fighting John Jones yet.

He has a ways to go. Listen, fill that dude up with stem cells. Just get a bunch of needles in there and fucking. A little cortisone? Do all the fucking worms you want, bro. Yeah, don't give him cortisone. Give him some stem cells. Santos is an interesting fight for John.

Yes. He's interesting because Santos throws fucking nuclear missiles at your head. And he did stop Jimmy Nemanawa. He stopped several guys at light heavyweight. He looks spectacular at light heavyweight. And he stopped Anthony Smith in their last fight at middleweight. I would imagine Santos is almost a bigger underdog than anthony smith um i would imagine that too but i would imagine he's not going to fight like anthony smith is he okay what does it say i'm fine my

shoulder's not too bad not too bad is not a good thing to say i just need to do some exams and check to be 100 sure that it was nothing serious okay that doesn't mean it's okay because the thing about shoulder tears and this is coming from someone who's had some shoulder issues they it feels all right until you do something weird and then it hurts and then you're like fuck and then you get an mri and then they look at it and they go you got some tears in there but sometimes it's not shit i've had probably i'm like dude i'm fucked i can't move my shoulder then two days later like well right let's do that's usually like sore tendons or sore muscles and he was just doing the worm yeah but he fell face first and landed on the shoulder weird i'm sure he's doing that

maybe man i don't know dude how about his post-fight speech yeah he's like i love mickey mouse yeah he's hilarious okay he's a real character he's a character when you work on his english but he's going to go far. Motherfucker has some power. That flying knee. Yeah. I was grilling for everyone, and I lost track of time. I looked at the TV from my backyard, and I saw them.

I saw them go, let's get it on. I just fucking dropped everything and sprinted. That motherfucker knocks dudes out in seconds. Yeah. Well, this is his third fight in the octagon, but he's fighting Misha Sukharinov, who's a real tank. He's a vet. He's tough, man. He's a tank, and he's got some serious grappling skill. He chokes the shit out of everybody.

Choked out Pat Cummings in his last fight. I mean, he chokes the fuck out of people. But, you know, Johnny Walker. Let's watch it real quick. I mean, fucking. But the thing about Walker is he's so loose. He came into that fight dancing. Boom!

Look at that. Here's the thing. What's he like when someone takes you down and we're in the third round? Yeah, we're going to find out. He's a brown belt in jiu-jitsu, though. Yeah. Watch this. See, he slapped his own arm on the ground.

Let me see that again. Just jump on the cage. It's his left arm. it's his left arm that hurt so watch this he goes down yeah esther esther land has a great photo god damn he's lying there he's like ah fuck i hurt my arm he's gonna be fine look he might not be fine dude dude let's wish for the best i'm wishing for the best listen i'm a fan of the guy i'm wish for the best. I'm wishing for the best. Listen, I'm a fan of the guy I'm wishing for the best. I'd rather see him than Santos. But there are so many videos of football players celebrating touchdowns and blowing their ACL out Yeah, it's he's like hey get a doctor So he got up and you know what's interesting is I was talking to one of his

Teammates and they were like, you know, you see how loose he is. He's like he's loose for everything. That's just how he is with life Have you ever seen his walk out? when he was stripping no oh dude he was a dancer i think in brazil thunder down under brazil style dude he's he was a and he's a good stripper too this boy probably made some money dude i believe it well he's a He's a real interesting addition To that division That division finally Has some life back in Santos

Him Who's the other dude God Stud Which guy He's ranked like number 10 I think Either way

Light heavyweight's killing it Yeah I know who you're talking about God damn I can't do it either Ethnic kid Yeah Fuck

Let me see the division he's top 15 he's actually top 10 let me see make that a little bigger dominic reyes yeah dominic reyes is a monster he's he's super athletic too the thing about dominic reyes is super smart super athletic and he's nine and oh undefeated him. Him versus Johnny Walker would be a hell of a fight. There's so many good matchups, light, heavyweight, with the young guys. Reigns is a really good athlete. The thing about him that separates him from everybody else is he has a background. What did he have a background in?

Football? Was that what he was? I don't think he's a football player. What was his— I would say Johnny Walker's probably more athletic than these guys. He's so big in the way he moves. He's so big. Isn't it weird he's from Brazil?

His name's Johnny Walker. He's named after whiskey. The fuck? Weird. Yeah, who knows? How does Johnny Walker whiskey not just do a deal now? I know, right? Jump on board before this gentleman becomes a champ.

Have him wear a Johnny Walker t-shirt and shit. Now, again, light heavyweight will be so much better. The same thing happened in welterweight. If Jon Jones goes have fun boys and goes to heavyweight right which none of these guys are beating john very well could happen none of these guys are beating well john might fight tiago next and if he fights tiago i mean look john wants to fight five times a year so here we are in march it's uh you know march 2nd he wins. John easily could fight in May or June. He'll fight in June, I bet. Easily.

April, May, June, three months from now. Yeah, easily. Okay. IT technical support. Okay, he works at an IT technical support. No, NFL. You're right. Hold on.

Football. Dreamt of playing. Dreamt of playing the NFL. But didn't he play for high school? He played in high school and college? Not being drafted. Def, NFL. You're right. Hold on. Football. Dreamt of playing the NFL, but didn't he play for high school? He played in high school and college, not being drafted. Defensive back here for the Seawolves. I don't know. So yeah, he played football. Oh, at Stony Brook.

So he played football and then decided to, yeah, well Still. Still. Excellent athlete. All conference. Didn't get drafted For football Smart as shit too For MMA standards

He's a super athlete Yeah And smart as shit Yeah you know That's the thing We've talked about this before The difference between The level of athletes

Between the guys That are going into the NFL And the NBA They're the The height of the height Dude watch Watch the NFL combine There's a guy who's

6'3 230 pounds Ran a 4'3 In the 40 With a 40 inch vert He's a guy who was 6'3", 230 pounds, ran a 4'3", in the 40, with a 40-inch vert. He's a wide receiver. Has the best footwork you've ever seen. Has footwork like Dominic Cruz. It's mind-blowing. There's a defensive lineman who ran a 4'4",

40. A big, fat dude ran a 4'4". That's insane. That's so fast. Two 300-pounders ran sub-5 second. 300 pounds, sub-5 second, 40 pounds sub five second 40 that's insane that's insane dude that's so fast have you i don't know why i bring this one everybody have you ever seen the guy he's running the 40s dick comes out it's the best moment in sports he's got so much dick it can't be held in. His dick pops out and he falls.

No. And he pops up and goes, the coach goes, what happened? He goes, my dick fell out, man. And they pause it and he has this fat black dick.

Let's see him go. Ready? Go. Where's his dick? You'll see it on the replay. Oh my God, he fell on his dick That's what's cool

He tucks it in In the replay They slow it down You see this big dick My dick fell out man That is so funny Look at the size of that guy When they redo it

Let me see Whoops He's like damn it He decided to fall down To cover his own dick It's crazy that he's so confident that his dick is tough look at this he went let's see break it down oh jesus there it is pops out like god damn it dick fell out again imagine that kind of a problem imagine jesus christ this is why it's great Imagine how many women

Just start blowing up his DMs Like Dude I mean when your dick falls out While you're running You can't even contain it Inside some pants This is what makes me laugh

Biggest moment of his life He's been waiting Dreaming Of going to the NFL This fucking dick Did they give him another run? I'm sure. Goddamn, he's got two tries.

Sturdy pair of compression shorts? Every dude goes, I get it, man. Let's go again. This is something I'm not understanding about dudes who are not wearing compression shorts with a cup, like a diamond MMA cup. In the NFL? No, in MMA. Guys who get nut-shotted, when guys have a regular cup on. Like how?

How do you have a regular cup on in 2019? How do you have that? When you can have one of those compression cups and you're not going to get hurt. Sometimes those cups are uncomfortable and they're so big. Yeah, they are. Fuck yeah, they are. You know what's more uncomfortable? Getting kicked in the nuts.

I don't get it. Kenny Florian used to wear the Thai steel cup. And here's the thing. I don't think the Thai steel cup should be legal legal but if it is legal oh yeah it's a nasty fulcrum but not only that but even if you're um you accidentally hit it you're hitting a piece of metal like why is it okay to have a piece of metal you could break your foot and a guy can do something to you and slam that metal into your face i mean some weird shit can happen and you can break a bone i mean there's there's many opportunities

where guys like how about this a guy shoots in and the guy hits him with his hips right you can hit him with your hips and catch that steel cup right in your fucking mouth and break your face remember mitrione knocked out derrick lewis with his hips remember that i thought he hit him on the right hook or something no he's like he just sprawled and knocked him out really wow i don't remember that i remember beastie in like 13 seconds he hit him with that but then he hit him with some punches too right at the end but still the hips what fucked up interesting interesting crazy yeah i really think that those cups, like a Diamond MMA style cup, should be standard. And I think Diamond MMA probably has the best one. I didn't like them when I was fighting just because they were so uncomfortable.

Right. I'd rather you hit me in the dick. I don't think the Diamond ones are that uncomfortable. Did you wear those? You wore that one? I forgot. I bet it's not. We have one here.

We'll give it to you. You want to try it out. But you don't give a fuck anymore. I don't know what I'd use it for. You're in there fucking lifting weights. I'm wearing it on stage tonight. We have one here. We'll give it to you. You want to try it out, but you don't give a fuck anymore. I don't know what I'd use it for. You're in there fucking lifting weights. I'm wearing it on stage tonight. Got you pretty good. Like Gene Simmons in Kiss.

Yeah. He's got one with teeth on it or something. Those steel cups, though, some dudes used to wear those in jiu-jitsu. It was horrible because they'd get on top of you. If somebody mounted you and they grapevine your legs and dug that fucking thing into your chest. Dude, how about fucking Usman fucking grapevining Woodley if a mount. Yep, mounted him. Yep.

And then I had my boy Todd Feldman over at my house. He goes, could there be anything worse? Or he goes, that looks like a bad position to be in. And I turned around and went, excuse me, sir, the worst. position to be in and i turned around went excuse me sir the worst there's nothing worse in professional sports than in the ufc when you get mounted on national tv in front of millions of people and you just it's the most kind of beta male move of all time you're on your back you can't get up this man's on top of you yep dick to chest it's so embarrassing and he held him worse he held him there for a long time.

All your buddies are watching. Oh, damn. And you know, the interesting, it didn't seem like Tyron had the energy to get him off. Like he didn't even hip escape correctly. He knows how to hip escape. Tyron's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu. Something was up with Woodley. You think so?

Yeah. He looked off. Well, I don't know if that was it or he's just wilting under the pressure that Usman was putting on him. Here's why, and I'm not taking anything away from Usman, I think he's one of the greatest title fight performances of all time. Of all time. Maybe the best.

That's fine. He won every minute of every round against a guy. He had two 10-8s. Two 10-8s. And against a guy who many people thought was in the running to be thought of as the greatest welterweight of all time. Top two. And if he won that fight, especially stopped him, I think you could put him in that category.

Agree. So we both agree how impressive it is. Yeah. Where I thought he might be off is right in the opening minute. Remember Usman shoots, Woodley grabs a guillotine, and he falls on the wrong side against the cage. I went, well, world champions don't do that. He's not there mentally.

Also, he kept holding on to that guillotine. That's my point. I was like, my God, he, world champions don't do that. He's not there mentally. Also, he kept holding onto that guillotine. I was like, my God, he's going to get Von Flued. And I think the only thing, I think we're calling it the OSP now. I heard that, yeah, OSP. It's the OSP. Sorry, Von Flu. But OSP has more Von Flu chokes than anybody. You kind of have to call it the OSP.

But then, Von Flu kind of invented it, right? Did he invent that choke? I doubt he invented it. I want to know if he invented it. Because if of invented it right did he invent that choke i doubt he invented it i want to know if he invented it because if he invented it you got to give it to him true let's call it the osp though way cooler so he went for the osp choke yes so he goes for that choke but at woodley's level to do that in the opening rounds of it well he's not ready yet he's mentally not firing right now because that's that's woodley being a black belt in jujitsu yeah one of the greatest fighters of all time yeah like you ever seen george st pierre make

a mental not like that never no never not in a world title fight never so when i saw that i went oh woodley's off you might be right about him having one foot out the door because being do we figure out if he's 36 or 37 it's 37 in a month so basically 37 basically 37 doing all that stuff for tmz i i want to say he opened for wiz khalifa recently they have an album together oh shit wiz is gonna come on the show we're working it out right now you're gonna get so high that's gonna be awesome it'll be fun you want to come in sure hi with us uh uh last time i was on fucking Pluto. Those fight companions.

Past these fucking backwoods ones, man. Dude. These things are a problem. I was so high. Alex Jones had one, but it was only tobacco, folks. Yeah, but with Woodley, when we say one foot in, one foot out, it's easy to say because in hindsight, because eventually he was going to lose. But before this, he was doing all that stuff.

When he beat Tilly, he was doing this stuff. When he beat Wonderboy twice, he was doing this stuff. So I don't know. Or Usman's just a bad matchup. But we're looking at these points. He had an off night. He does too much stuff outside the octagon. Or Usman's just a bad motherfucker. I think it's all of the above.

Usman is absolutely a bad motherfucker and who knows it's all of the above. Usman is absolutely a bad motherfucker, and who knows? He might have been able to do that anyway, even if Tyron was in perfect condition. But here's the question. Tyron, over the last few fights, over the last few years, has been able to control the pace of the fight, 100%. He controlled the pace of the Maya fight. He controlled the pace of, obviously, Darren Till fight was a good, easy victory for him, relatively.

Controlled the pace of the Wonderboy fight, fought smart, and then hit him when he wanted to with big shots. And he was the one who had Wonderboy hurt, right?

But Wonderboy was never pressing him, like forcing his cardio. But if you go back and watch some of the fights where he had problems earlier in his career, like Nate Marquardt,

like Rory McDonald. It's someone pushing him. Someone pushing him. And this, you know, this might, he might have figured out a way to, look, when you're that muscular, and he's fucking ridiculously muscular. I mean, Tyron has legs the size of a running back.

He has giant ass legs. Usman's muscular as fuck too, though. He is, but Usman's longer. Longer, it's different. Like it's not, it's not that stacked, jack,

dense, almost power lifting muscle. And that muscle is one of the reasons why Tyron is so fucking fast and powerful. But it also, you could make the argument

that that muscle just comes with an unavoidable price. And that what he's been really able to do is, Jack is conditioning up as high as possible, and then also do a really good job of controlling the pace of fight. He couldn't do that with Usman.

Good point. Could be. We don't know. I feel bad for the guy. I'm a fan. I want to see, if he wasn't 100% focused, I want to see him one more time focused with Usman. Here's the problem.

100% focused. I want to see him one more time focused with Usman. Here's the problem. Like with Cejudo and TJ. Caught behind the air. Stopped early.

All right, rematch. For sure, rematch. Other guys where it's quick. Kane, Vlasquez, JDS. Quick rematch. Let's do it. Run it back. When you get out class

for 25 minutes and there's two, eight, ten rounds, it's tough to get. There's no way obviously they're not going to rematch. Yeah, Suhudo and TJ, you could really call for a rematch in that fight. The UFC is going to make Woodley's path to that title shot a fucking nightmare, man.

Who stopped that fight? Suhudo and TJ. Who stopped that fight? Who was the referee in that fight? I don't know. Was that Herb? No. No?

Who was it? So, Leon Roberts Was the one who separated Damian Maya Was it Roberts again I want to say It's Leon Roberts Was it Leon Roberts No

Oh no Gentleman I forget his name Powerful haircut though So you'll run that back though Because you stopped early Yeah But the Oosman Woodley

Is a tough sell They're the biggest names in that division. I mean, especially if they decide to do it at flyweight, they're the only names in that division except Joseph Benavidez. Benavidez, who also won, he beat Cejudo in a split decision. There's a real good argument for him fighting for the title as well. For sure. But that fight was so controversial and so hyped up up I would like to see that fight again Rematches are tough

Yeah Right But don't you think If anyone deserves to be Woodley How long he was just Fucking the reigning champ Right But I would say the same thing

About Stipe Miocic Stipe That's super fucked up Was the motherfucker For years He won More title fight defenses Than any heavyweight

In the history of the sport Most successful He's number one Most successful heavyweight Of all time. Beat nothing but world champions, right? Beat nothing but world motherfucking champions. Alistair Overeem, Fabrizio Verdun, Junior Dos Santos, Orlovsky.

World motherfucking champions. And then fights Nganou, who's fucking terrifying. Beats Nganou. Guy can't get a break. He can't get a fight. Why can't he get a fight? Because he didn't sell pay-per-views. That's crazy.

That's the only reason he doesn't have a fight. The world is a terrible place. Fuck your boy. You could do Steve A. Kane. Well, Kane's going to have to get another knee surgery now. Is he for sure? The way his knee went out? How is it possible?

Have you heard anything about his knee? I have not. You don't think it was a knee problem? You think it was the uppercut? Have you heard any update on his knee? I haven't, but I haven't asked. You know, I could probably text DC. Trust me, his team, ask DC.

His team would have released something because. His team said something really ridiculous. That he didn't get knocked out? That he got hit behind the head with an illegal shot first how dare you and i love crazy this javier javier must have been maybe had a few you know what he's a down-ass dude and i like that but you're full of shit you're full of shit he's down for it well we were saying we watched that punch and it didn't even land it landed on like the shoulder yeah Yeah. It was the shoulder. Like cuff the shoulder. But that short shot.

I just did a food truck diaries on below the belt with Francis and he showed me the exact punch. Yeah. Because I was like, people are saying he was not happy. Yeah. Here it is. Cain Velasquez lost a freak. My knee gave out on me.

But no, there was, it wasn't him. It was Javier Vasquez Said It was an illegal punch Come on bro You just gotta take the loss And back You know what Back to the drawing board First of all

That's not an illegal punch When you're swinging on the feet It's illegal on the ground If a guy is swinging And a guy ducks And you hit him In the back of the head There's not a single referee

On the planet earth No it's transition Right There's not a single referee On the planet earth That has ever said that's bad Not only that A good percentage

Of head kicks Are illegal shots Behind the ear Behind the ear a lot of wonder boy shots the wonder boy likes that sneaky question mark kick he throws that shit behind the ear so does barbosa so does cowboy comes right over the shoulder whack but but with game that this that's not even a an issue because that punch didn't land there right the issue is the uppercut which turned the lights off which caused his knee to buckle. But here's where you know he was punched. If there was a knee problem with this kind of dilemma about his knee, his team would have reported he's going for knee surgery.

There's an MCL. There's nothing. They're just like, all right, let's just move on. So you do steep AK. Holler at your boy. K might be in a position where he doesn't want to have any more knee surgeries, but his knees are weak. Come on, bro. No, but I'm saying if he got hit with that punch,

maybe in another world his knee wouldn't have given out like that. He would have just got rocked. He would have just got rocked. Maybe. Maybe. But him versus Stipe is the fight. It's a good fight. It's a good fight.

I'm sure Stipe would like it, but what Stipe really wants is another shot at DC. Not happening, bro. Maybe he thinks that that's the way to get to DC. The UFC would have done it if by now. Yeah. There's a million reasons to do it.

DC, also for DC, it makes no sense. He knocked him out so fast. You can't get any more impressive than that. It's kind of like Jose Aldo Conor.

Yeah. Right, right, right. I fucking starched him. I have everything to lose now. Yeah. What do you want me to do? That's a good point. So DC's going to get Brock and probably ride off to Sunset.

Although I was trying to tell Francis, he needs to let DC just do his thing, dip out. And then he can become the heavyweight champion. Yeah. DC's looking for a big fight and that's it. That's it. I mean, apparently his coaches have already said, look, you got a real legitimate career

as a broadcaster and he does. He's excellent as an analyst. You, him and Anik are the best. I love it. That's the best relationship and I'm not throwing shade at Dom. I love doing it with Dom too.

I love doing it with Dom. I bet. Not as good chemistry. Well, you know what it is? It's a weird dynamic. DC and I are silly. We're silly. Dom's not silly. No, Dom, I mean, Dom and? It's a weird dynamic. DC and I are silly. We're silly.

Dom's not silly. No, Dom. I mean, Dom and I laugh a little bit. He's like uber serious. He's an expert. Like when Rose Namajuna's won and he's yelling out, thug Rose! DC. DC's, he's fun, man.

You, DC, and Annex are the best commentating team on the planet. When it's you and Dom, there seems to be this weird dynamic where I don't vibe with it. Really? I think a lot of people are on board with that. That's interesting because I like it a lot. Again, it's not bad, but it's not you, DC, and Anakin. But Dom, without you, even with you, he's amazing. He's one of the best.

But before, it's just not as good. Okay, I get it. It's just, I agree with his corner, though. I would like to see maybe one more fight at DC. And then, look, he's got his wits about him. He's got his brains. He's fine. He's the best.

He's an amazing person. Like, when you hang out with him and talk to him, he's a sweetheart of a guy. The best. And he can talk great. He's funny. He's very articulate. And as a wrestler, unparalleled. I mean, his skill, his understanding of the game.

As a heavyweight, you could argue he's the greatest of all time. Dana just did. Did he? Dana just made that argument. He said, I think that DC's the best of all time. That's fair. You can totally make that argument. He's never lost.

Starch Stipe was the best of all time. Yeah, but he's only fought once in the UFC at heavyweight other than this with Frank Muir. But dude, what he did in the Strikeforce Grand Prix is insane. Insane. Insane. Did he fight? Who else did he fight at heavyweight other than this with Frank Muir. But dude, what he did in the Strikeforce Grand Prix is insane. Insane. Did he fight, um, who else did he fight at heavyweight in the UFC? Did he fight Roy? He fought Roy, right? Roy was in the UFC. Roy and Frank Muir.

Roy and Frank Muir, yeah. He beat both those guys. Beat the brakes off both of them. Yep. And then starched Stipe. But I think without cutting weight, he just feels so much better. That's why if he's going to fight John, we've got to do it at heavyweight. I know without cutting weight, he just feels so much better. That's why if he's going to fight John, we've got to do it at heavyweight. I know how light heavyweight goes.

Get out of here. You think so still? Yeah, 100%. You do it at heavyweight. What do you think happens at heavyweight? I think DC has a chance, baby. I'll put my money on him. Because DC can knock bitches out at heavyweight.

And he's the one who can land on John. He gets dirty. Do you think that John would want that fight? Do you think that would be... That could be like a giant 4th of July fight. Dude. Bomb, bomb, bomb. Why don't you and I call Dana White and say,

we would like to take over the matchmaker occasionally. Just, we would like like a celebrity matchup sort of deal. Just let me get my B-Quad. I don't want to take anything away from Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby. Those guys are great. But just let us make five fights a year. Do you hate ratings? We'll help you.

Do you hate money? We'll promote the shit out of them. I'll make your posters. We'll do what we can. Here's what you do, Uncle D. What do we do? You do DC John Heavyweight for the world title. What's the undercard?

Francis Brock. You really think Brock's going to take that fight? Yeah. Brock wants the title, and that's a wrap. He wants DC. DC's almost. That's a terrible fight. DC's only a little taller than me.

I know. You know? He's for real. Don't let him fool you. He looks small and like your dad, but he'll beat the shit out of you. He'll beat the shit out of you. He's a tank. He's as wide as a house.

Dude, Brock. That's what Brock wants. Dude, Brock Francis. Picture the poster. Just take that in for a second. Picture the hospital bill. Oh, dude. Picture Brock's, the remaining years of Brock's life.

I asked Francis about that. Asking why. He goes, I don't chase. I chase nobody. He not serious. He goes, I don't chase. I chase nobody. He not serious. I went, oh. The funny thing is you standing next to Francis is almost like me standing next to you. I did it on purpose.

He's so goddamn big. Oh, did you? So we're on a curb. We're on a curb and I go, stand here, dude. You're going to look huge. And everyone's going to freak out on the internet. He's so big He looks huge

265 natural I asked him What do you walk around That's what he said He was 65 Did you ask him about wrestling A little bit You know with those food truck dives

I try to get a little silly And get those guys to have fun Look at that With Francis He talked about how he kind of felt Like a loser After the Stipe fight Well

There's no way around that It was fascinating Tough fight No it was fascinating Conversation He's saying He kind of felt like a loser And how he didn't feel

Like himself And how he felt pressure To take the fight He was not ready How well is he Like talking Do you think I could get him on

Do you think It would work Be tough Yeah Be tough He's getting better at english though because when i first interviewed him i remember way back in the day when i first when he had the dreads i first interviewed him he was having a real hard time understanding me but he's he's

definitely better at it now he's getting better and he you know yeah when he loosens up it'd be tough to do two hours with you dana white says damien cormier is getting the brock lesnar fight yeah but we don't know what Brock's doing. Is that today? This post is from an hour ago. But this has more to do with, I guess, the Brock Lesnar fight. He said that at the post-fight press conference. Yeah, I saw that.

But there's no announcements when DC said Cormier is fully healed from his injuries. Oh, he's got an injury? Yeah, he's been injured. What's going on? I forget. He had a problem with his hand before the Derek Lewis fight. Decided to take the fight anyway. Because Stipe offered the fight, and that's why he's like, dude, I'm injured. I'm not going to fight you when I'm injured.

He goes, I'll fight Derek Lewis. That must feel like shit for Stipe. He must be like, God damn it. Don't you feel bad for Stipe? Yeah. Because if Daniel Cormier wasn't injured, he would have got that shot. If his hand was okay, he would have got that shot in New York. But now Stipe's never going to get that shot.

Dude, how about John Stipe? I feel terrible. I'm just spitballing fucking gems here. But I feel terrible for Stipe. Me too. I really do. Me too. Because, I mean, how long has it been since he lost the title?

A year? It's been a hot year. A year? How long has it been since he lost the title? A year? It's been a hot year. A year? How long has it been? And he's tried to fight. June? It was 226. Oh, my God.

DC's fought. 226. So a fucking year. More than a year. DC's fought twice. Dude, more than a year. February. February.

Fuck. It was July. Oh, what are you talking about? Do you not know how to count? No, that's what it was. How dare you? I didn't count. Why'd you say 226?

Oh, oh, oh. I thought you were saying February. No, not the day. UFC 226. Okay. I was like, how dare you? But still. How dare you make that mistake?

UFC 226. Okay. Well, that's July. So that's not quite a year. DC's been relevant. He's fought twice since that last loss. Stipe hasn't fought. Damn.

It's heartbreaking. Damn. John Jones, Stipe. Coach Javier Mendez can't understand why Stipe Miocic is waiting for Daniel Correa. Yeah, he needs to move on. It's not happening. I don't think he necessarily is waiting for it. No, he is.

He even taunted DC. He wants it, but I don't think they're is waiting for it. No, he is. He even taunted DC. He wants it, but I don't think they're offering him a valid fight in the meantime. I haven't heard any big fights that are being mentioned. I mean, obviously I could be wrong. You know. Well, the only thing they could really

offer him is what? It's funny, I have all these questions and I don't ever call Dana. Dude, come on, bro. I don't call Sean Shelby. i don't ever call dana and he dude come on bro i don't call sean shelby i don't call mcmainer i just sit here with you we talk shit we just speculate total speculation total speculation it was interesting being on espn for the first time that was interesting how so different it's interesting yeah i'm holding an espn uh handle on the microphone. It was interesting.

And knowing that it's on ESPN, it's very exciting. It's very exciting to know that it's on ESPN now because I think that's going to make a big deal with casual fans. I think it's going to allow the sport to grow. I agree 100%. And the ESPN fights were spectacular. They put on a good product. They did a great job. When I turned on ESPN, I do every morning.

That's how I start my morning. They had a picture of Bryce Harper, who just signed like a $3 trillion deal with the Philadelphia Phillies, and Jon Jones. That was the flyer. Wow. It's mainstream. That's giant.

Like Fox could never do that. No, no. Fox was great, and Fox put the UFC on the map, and I think Fox really did a fantastic job over those seven years. But it's a big difference. Going to ESPN is like, holy shit, we're on ESPN. It's a big deal. For sports?

It feels different. You go to any fucking sports bar, ESPN's always on. So every fight is on. And they're going to have a shit ton of fights. And if you have ESPN+, you can watch all the old fights. Plus at the bottom, just the scroller, say Jon Jones, like breaking news. ESPN Inc.'s exclusive rights deal with PFL Mixed Martial Arts League. Oh, interesting.

What is PFL? Oh, that's the- That's my boy Seth's league. That's interesting. That's on Thursdays, I believe. I think they have something like 10 events for the year right now or something. Okay, that is excellent. And they have a playoff.

That is excellent. That is so good for MMA. It's so good. 10 PFL events in 2019. Outstanding. They do the playoffs. Across ESPN 2, ESPN Deportes, and ESPN Plus. Fantastic.

So good. So good for everybody. I can't believe Vinny Magalhaes lost. I was so So sure he's gonna win the whole thing I mean he's so fucking good man When it comes to the ground game He's like

Freak He's a freak There's not a light heavyweight on the planet Dude ESPN also just signed Tyson Fury Really? Interesting So now you're not getting Tyson Deontay Wilder I heard about that

What the fuck is that about? What did What did Tyson say? Something crazy. Like, why would he fight him again when he got robbed of a decision in the last fight? I heard that. I was like, is he drinking again? Dude.

Dude, how about this? How about this? How about Showtime, my boys? They had the trailer. They had the hype video ready to launch on Monday. Tyson signed with ESPN Monday morning. No one knew. Nobody fucking knew.

I feel bad for Deontay. It's heartbreaking. I feel bad for Deontay because Deontay almost put him out in that final round. You know, and I think you can make a real argument that Tyson won the decision. For sure. But when you get dropped twice and get dropped one time in the most horrific fashion, I mean. And now they say the fight's not happening. That's crazy.

It's the biggest problem in boxing. I don't like it. I'm angry. That makes me angry. It's because there's different promoters. That's why the UFC jump-frogged boxing a long time. Sort of. But, I mean, look, that fight could have been made.

Do you think that maybe Tyson didn't want to fight him again? Nope. I think it's his handlers, his representation go, dude, let's sign with ESPN, get a seven-figure deal. You can fight two bums, and then we'll circle back to Wilder. That's boxing. Maybe.

I mean, there's argument that that's a good move financially, I guess. It's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. I guess. It's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. Right here. Oh, dude. Here it is. I wanted to cry.

I wanted to cry. That's sad. It's so frustrating. But it does open up Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, which is very exciting. A little bit, but no time soon because Deontay's still going to fight in May. Maybe Dillian White, maybe Luis Ortiz. Yeah, Luis Ortiz is still fucking dangerous. Dillian White's a motherfucker. Yeah.

So then, you know, Anthony Joshua should be great, but he's fighting Big Baby Miller. Yeah, and that's a tough fight for him. Big Baby Miller's got some fucking power. You don't think so? No. That's in Madison Square Garden too, right? First time Anthony Joshua's fighting in the United States though. Yep.

When you fight in the United States. Deontay Wilder. Fuck Tyson Fury. Wow. That's his next fight. Brazil. Brazil's next. That seems like a fake name.

It's like- He's a former football player. If a dude's name is Breeze, you'd call him Brazil. Fuck. Dominic Brazil. Boxing's in May. My mandatory. So frustrating.

However, you got Mikey Garcia, Earl Spence coming up. That's amazing. We should do a fight campaign for that. When is that? March something. When is that? Am I in town? I don't know.

We should do a fight campaign for boxing. I know. We don't have any fight companions for boxing. Right? Yeah, give me an excuse to do one That's a good one to do it on What does it say Jamie What do we got

March 16th Oh daddy's home Daddy's in Miami What You son of a bitch Daddy's at the Miami Improv That's next week bro You son of a bitch

That's next week That's two Yeah Next Saturday Next week Next Saturday Yeah I'm at the Miami Improv

How the fuck is it already March It's March 4th Crazy dude This year is flying by January was the longest one Next week. Next Saturday. I'm at the Miami Improv. How the fuck is it already March? March 4th. Crazy, dude. This year is flying by. January was the longest one. We're going to be 85 years old before you know it. We're going to be like Larry Merchant over here talking shit. Remember when Larry Merchant said to Floyd Mayweather,

if I was your age, I'd kick your ass. Classic. Fucking classic. It's a ridiculous thing to say. What a great thing to say. One of the greatest boxers of all time. God. Oh.

He's fucking such a crotchety old dude, though. It's going to be us one day. 85 years old, calling fights. Ah! Getting old, man. These kids today. You think we'll still be doing companions? Old as fuck.

Yeah, yeah. Well, someone's going to drink themselves to death on a live show. It's probably going to be Eddie. I'll have a heart attack. We should start bringing in other people, too, occasionally, especially when Callan's out of town, because Callan's always busy these days. Callan's always gone. Yeah.

But he brings the cheese. Nothing's like the four of us, though. The chemistry with the four of us. You can't fuck with it. No, it is the best, and it's the most fun. By far. It's the most fun by far it's the most fun everyone brings a different dynamic yeah but they're talking over my god i tried to listen to it you did i tried to listen to some of it because i want to know what it sounds like

everybody's talking over everybody it's terrible i haven't been that drunk and high in a long time and it was awesome people for whatever reason love those kind of chaos shows like that alex jones show they love chaos they love they love a drunk and stoned and and interdimensional child molesters and fucking they love all that shit they love it off the charts nuts that alex jones one though i told you i've never been a fan of his then i watched i'm like kind of like him now people are mad at me some people are mad at me but, but there's nothing I can do about that. They were going to be mad at me anyway. But one of the things that they were saying was, fuck you for normalizing him.

I'm like, you've got to understand, that's how I know him. I know him like that. That's how I know him. I know that guy. That's why you're friends. Yes, that guy that came on here. And this is the guy That by the way

On his show Said he was gonna Kick my ass And break my legs And fucking all kinds Of crazy shit And I wanna fight him In the UFC fight

I'm gonna offer him A million dollars Like I knew I knew him I know the real him I'm like When we're not in front

Of each other You can say crazy shit And like I'm immune man I don't care It doesn't bother me I don't care anymore Plus he's doing an entertainment show he is doing entertainment but but what i know is the alex jones that was here and by the way he was right about a lot of shit a lot of the crazy shit they were saying about about fucking human pig hybrids that they're

working on those and actually making human pig hybrid fetuses. That's real. They really are. The problem is he throws so much shit out there at one time. I don't know what to believe and what not to believe. And you've got to slow him down. And I don't have time to look into all of it. And you've got to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Start over again.

What? What's happening on the moon? He's for sure a little crazy. I like crazy. But he's crazy. But I think that crazy is okay and it's entertaining and i'm not a fucking child so if you want to nerf the world and make the world so that only children can watch everybody because like make make things that that are own

that are safe for everyone including children well i i don't want that i'm a discerning adult i'm pretty rational and i can figure out what's real and what's nonsense. Dude, speaking of children, did you see the Michael Jackson? I did not, but I heard it was horrific. It's crazy. You know, Tim Dillon is so fucking funny. You see Tim Dillon's thing? No, what'd he say?

Tim Dillon is pretending that Michael Jackson was a pimp and he was banging bitches. Go to his Instagram. Have you had Tim on your show? Is that the big guy? Yeah. The comic? Yes. No. Dude, you Have you had Tim on your show? Is that the big guy? Yeah. The comic? Yes. No. Dude, you gotta get him on. Really? I'll have him on any time he's in town. He's fucking hilarious. He's a New York guy too, right?

Yeah, he's a funny dude. Listen to this. The problem with this Michael Jackson documentary is there's no fucking music in it. The whole thing is fucking boring. It's all fucking interviews. I fast forwarded through all that shit. I want to see the bitches. The whole thing is fucking boring. It's all fucking interviews. I fast forwarded through all that shit. I want to see the bitches. The guy's the king of fucking

pop. You know he's fucking all the time. He was fucking Elvis' daughter, Lisa Marie Presley. You know Neverland Ranch was just fucking pussy because they're trying to make him look like some humanitarian. Oh, he helps sick kids. He lets them sleep with them. we get it

he was a good guy and another thing so there's this scene i was kind of half listening apparently some kid walked in on him fucking some bitch and the kid knows like every one of his moves everything he was fucking doing it's like what kind of sick kid sneaks into michael's room while he's fucking a chick it's kind of of crazy. That's the problem with kids. That's why you can't help kids. Word to the wise. Help adults. Jesus Christ.

He's a ridiculous guy, man. You have him on. He's very funny. He's super into conspiracy theories. Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deep in. He brought me a book.

He's like, we want to bring you back. Bring you back to the fold. But he's a smart guy. Real smart guy. dude dude when he said uh when you got him on he said the comments are brutal shob because someone said oh why is rogan having rosanne on again did you see rosanne she went on candace owens all over me too girls a bunch of hoes and they were all just selling sex to try to get successful. It's hilarious. Roseanne doesn't give a fuck. Especially now,

they forced her out. She's like, good, good. It's hilarious. But they fucked up so hard kicking her out. That show was number one and now no one even cares about it.

Is it still on air? I don't see a market anymore. They might keep it on just for spite. Just so she couldn't say, I told you so. But we know no one's watching it yeah you fucked up no one's watching it yeah i don't want to watch that michael jackson thing

first of all it's weird i'm not alive he's not alive to defend himself so it's weird it's also stories and you know people tell the truth in stories sometimes and sometimes they don't and you don't know you don't know and and also there was you know like it was always weird like people no one knew why with all the rumors that everybody had ever heard about michael jackson that anybody would let their kids go and hang out with him like when you watch the documentary like these parents are fucking morons i don't get man. Two of the fathers have committed suicide since this happened. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Wait, but we don't have any hard evidence that he was molesting kids, right? All we have is rumors. Well, here's the thing. In court, he was acquitted. Here's the problem. The doctor, his very doctor, said that he was chemically castrated. Talking about the guy who killed him yes yeah that guy said he was chemically castrated by his parents to protect his voice

so you have no testosterone right exactly not just no testosterone so do you still bust nuts i mean me i don't think so one of the other weird things i saw that was like facts you should hear know from the documentary was that he had uh some something to do with the sound in the room. The hallway leading up to his bedroom was wired so that footprints would make a ding-dong sound in the room. It's just a very strange thing to just have in general for any purpose. But if you grow up in the spotlight, because remember, he was such a big star, you might have some anxiety. Right.

Maybe he didn't want anybody walking in on him naked or something. Or he don't want anyone walking in while you're touching boys. It could be that. Look, who the fuck knows? We don't know. We don't know. However, what do you think, Jamie? Am I off?

No, I'm just saying some of the facts. I remember he spent like 30 straight nights with like a 12-year-old at his house. In between that kid's mom's house and his dad's house. Because they were divorced. And they were paying for so many of his parents' stuff. There's so much video of him and this little boy holding hands. And the boy in the video goes, yeah, we would hold hands and we had a signal. We'd rub each other's palms when we were thinking sexually about each other.

However, you got to chalk it up to the shitty parents. Because if John Legend Came to my house Was like dude I love Tiger You mind if I take him out For a little while But get your god damn mind Right

You're not going anywhere Well not only that And John Legend's not a Pedophile No I'm just Or not known But they didn't know Michael Jackson was that fun

But everybody knew There was something up And at the time He was the biggest star In the world Back then in the 90s I remember People knew some shit Was going on In the 90s. I remember. People knew some shit was up.

In the 90s? Yes. No. Yes. He made good music, you fucks. No, no, no, no, no. I know he did. Everybody knew something was weird.

Really? I didn't. He was always hanging around with kids. Yeah, because he loved to help kids. You're younger than us. Way younger. You got to trust me. We're the same age.

True. Like the same month almost. And you knew something was up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie's more on the ball than you. He's always online. You're out getting pussy. Jamie's online. Legit same month almost. And you knew something was up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie's more on the ball than you. He's always online. You're out getting pussy. Jamie's online.

Legit point. Legit point. Well played, sir. Well played. I just feel like it's too weird. It's too weird to let your kids hang out with this grown man all those times. I think he was mentally ill. And what his family says, they go, no, no.

A lot of you are confusing him for being, he didn't a childhood his dad robbed him of his childhood i think that's true so inside he felt like he was nine years old so he missed out on the sleepovers and video games so he would get friends with kids and i think that's true it's batshit crazy batshit crazy i think all those things that you're saying are true but i also think it's true that he was probably chemically castrated i really think that's true because i've said that a long time ago i said yeah i think he's a castrato the way his voice is why why tell him that it's human nature it's just the that voice is just not a man's voice it's not even a falsetto voice it's a woman's voice he's castrated then he would have zero testosterone to molest kids. Yeah, well, he might not have been doing it because he was horny.

He might have been doing it because he was just weird. Well, these kids said he was busting nuts. The kids in the video said he would jack himself off in front of them. Boy. It would make you sick to your stomach. Not his wife, but the woman that gave birth to his two kids said she never had sex with him yeah that's more likely i don't know if you're chemically castrated that means your body doesn't produce any testosterone anymore but it doesn't mean you can't shoot it into your body and you know you could shoot test into your body but if you have no nut you're not

making semen yeah if your balls are dead. But you... Is it semen or sperm? Yeah, I think sperm's from the nuts, and then your prostate and some other things that get the juice together. The juice? I don't know. The juice? I'm not a doctor, obviously. Clearly.

Is that a technical term? The whole thing is fucking super weird. It's super weird. It just makes me sad. It makes me so sad. But it's also, there's a lesson to be learned there in so many different ways. But one of the big lessons to be learned is that you never want to be that famous. That was my takeaway.

I was watching my girl. I go, can you imagine being that famous? And she goes, yeah, it's probably awesome. I'm like, no, hold on. You know how we like to go to the mall? We like to go out to eat. That's gone. You can't do that anymore, yeah, it's probably awesome. I'm like, no, hold on. You know how we like to go to the mall? We like to go out to eat? That's gone. You can't do that anymore.

Yeah, that's all gone. That's all gone. People would start a riot. They'll take that away from you. Yeah. Your normal life is not... Over. You just stay in your house.

But yeah, that's why he developed an amusement park. Like he made his house a fucking amusement park. What do you say? They set this up for him to go grocery shopping. They had a fake...

They emptied a grocery store and paid people to be shoppers so he could have the experience of what it's like to be normal. What? Going through a Ralph's or whatever. And have interactions with people like, Hey, how's it going? Oh, Jesus. look how weird this is Well they should make it realistic

Like LA So he hired people So he could do that And he wore a hat And he's dancing around Everything was weird man Don't you feel bad for him though You know how much he was worth

1.7 billion they say. But that's after he died. See the thing is when he died, he got super rich. He was actually in the hole before he died. No, because there's like MC Hammer broke where when he talked to MC Hammer, he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, there's like, you know, publicist broke where they released that. You go bankrupt.

I was fine. I was balling. I think it was Michael Jackson jackson yeah he owned the beatles catalog oh so that's where he had all his money he bought all the originals the masters of his and the beatles that's right yeah paul mccartney was mad about that apparently he told he gave him the idea paul gave him the idea and he's like oh good idea i'll be right back so So why didn't Paul buy it? He's got money. Couldn't afford it.

He has one-fourth of the Beatles' money. Not all of it combined, you know. Right. Dude, think how big. There's no stars like Michael Jackson. You can't. Right. You can't do it in current society.

There's pockets now. He also owned Happy Birthday. He owned Happy Birthday? He bought the rights to it Wow So that's why You're not allowed To sing it in a restaurant

I feel like that's over I think you can say it now You can now Because it's back Into the public domain Because he died Or maybe after he died It became a thing

Dude that's why Everyone sings the Bullshit Happy Birthday Happy Happy Birthday Happy Happy Happy I think like ASCAP or BMI Could literally come in

And just find the restaurant If you were singing that Holy shit And that's because of Michael? That's so stupid. Dude, what a baller move. It's copyrighted. Owning Happy Birthday.

I want all the money. Give it to me. Too bad he doesn't like bitches because that'd be the biggest move ever. Maybe he did like bitches. Who knows? Well, I bet he did. The guy's dead. He can't defend himself.

Have some respect, Shawb. Here's the thing. Those two dudes who were doing it, one was the key witness when he got away in court. What dudes? The dudes in the documentary. The two were like, oh, we got molested. The one was the number one key witness who's saying he didn't get molested. Okay, well then he shouldn't be able to say anything.

Both of them were witnesses. Because that means they should go to jail. And now they're like, well, no, that's not true. We were young, bitch. You were 20-something. How old was he? He was in his was in his 20s yeah well also like isn't that perjury it means he lied in court be fucked you can't lie in court either way one way or the other you can't lie to protect somebody and you can't lie to accuse someone either you can't lie i don't know what the deal is i mean that seems like that's something they could drag him to court for and the jackson came out and went, well, isn't it convenient?

You guys are coming out now when you're in financial trouble? Oh, of course. Yeah, of course. It just seems like a strange thing to do a documentary on. Documentaries are killing it lately. That's probably the problem. Look at R. Kelly. Yeah.

He thought he was flying free, pissing on bitches. Then that documentary came out he's fucked yeah he's fucked he's arrested yeah they just released him did you see when they released him like he he leaves jail and he has to walk through a throng of people and there was script some woman was yelling at him calling they took his music off itunes really they took down all the shit and all the artists who worked with them took their music down like let's say let's say michael jackson did get convicted of molesting kids could you still listen to his music could you imagine you separate it right you know tony

hinchcliffe i don't want to give away the bit he has a fucking hilarious bit about that he has a hilarious bit about really i bet yeah i bet he's redoing it now because I don't think it's on the special. On his last special? I don't think it's on. No, I haven't heard it. Dude, Tony Hinchcliffe. He's got some fucking, he's got this new bit about transgender athletes. What does it say there?

Daycare affiliated woman who bailed R. Kelly out of jail receives bomb threat. It's a mystery woman bailed him out. Damn, he's looking like shit right there. It's been a stressful time. Fuck, yeah. What are you going to do? I don't know. So, upcoming fights.

Let's get back to MMA for a few minutes before we get the fuck out of here. Yeah, JBS, Derek Lewis. Oh, Kelvin. Kelvin and Israel Adesanya. That's what I want to see. That's next month, son. That's next month, and that is in motherfucking Atlanta, Georgia. Is that a pay-per-view?

Yes, it is, sir. Ah, fuck, you're gone, dude. Holloway Poirier, too. I'll be there for that one. Holloway Poirier is a great fight. It is a very good fight. But style better. Who won the first fight?

Holloway. Holloway won, right? Yeah. It was a decision? Pretty sure. Yeah. That's so long ago. Just scroll up.

Let me see what else is on that card. Oven St. Preux and Nikita Krylov. That's right. Nikita used to be a heavyweight. Now he's a lighter. Khalil Roundtree Jr. Eric Anders. Ooh, that's a good fight.

Great fight. That's an under-the-radar fight. Montel Jackson. You know what? Johnny Walker knocked out Khalil Roundtree too With elbows From the Tide clinch

Yeah And Khalil is a Serious striker Wilson Hayes Alejandro Pinto A little fact about Khalil Roundtree You know he used to be

Over 300 pounds Really He used to be fat as fuck That's crazy because He doesn't have any loose skin I know Some guys they bounce back Good

He was young And he was working in An MMA fucking warehouse Or something Well that's the same thing With David Goggins I know Some guys they bounce back He was young Good He was young And he was working In an MMA Fucking warehouse Or something Well that's the same thing With David Goggins David Goggins

The Oh The Navy SEAL The Navy SEAL He bounced back to Whoa look at him Ten year challenge Look at him in 2010

And 2016 That's only six years Six year challenge Imagine you break up with him And six years later He's jacked Dude dime piece. Look at that boy now.

Dime piece. He's like, I'm just tired of you being all fat and getting on top of me and I can't breathe. It's over, Khalil. Now he's like, what's up, bitch? Six years later. I'm hot. Big fat dick still there. Dude, knocked out Gokhan Saki with one punch.

He's a beast. God damn, he's fat. That just shows you how crazy powerful powerful johnny walker is man it's ridiculous ridiculously powerful what do you do with him next yeah take it slow giving him good fights don't give don't give him latifi no no latifi pisses me off does he why he's so good and he you know he's not about cory anderson man nobody's giving cory anderson any love how weird is that i know it. It's weird. And a lot of people say it's because he's not stopping people.

He's just winning. Yeah, that's the point. But he's winning. He's fucking beating Latifi. See, you're talking about Latifi and not talking about Corey Anderson. I know. It's fucked up. Isn't that interesting? It's fucked up.

And I love Corey Anderson. Corey, we're sorry. Corey, we're sorry. But fuck that. And Corey's a bowhunter, too. Yep, that must be fun. But fuck that. How about Jimmy Manilow, Johnny Walker?

Uh, there's another one on the house. Dana White. Well, that, that is a possibility. Yeah. Jimmy Manilow is dangerous. I know. So is Johnny Walker. Serious power.

Jimmy Manilow is great. That fight with Tiago Santos was chaos for as long as it lasted. It was amazing. Yeah. Johnny Walker, Jimmy Manilow. Yeah. Sign me the fuck up. fuck up any other brain busters how do you feel like uh dustin poirier max holloway plays out

max always so goddamn talented so not having to cut at 45 anymore it's a tough fight for dustin dustin you know i love you. I'm glad Dustin got a big fight. What's interesting is they offered the fight to Tony Ferguson and turned it down. But hear about this. Dustin Poirier stops Pettis, right? Didn't he stop Pettis? Right? He stopped Justin Gaethje.

Gaethje. Who else did he stop? That was his last fight, right? But those are two world champions. There was another one. There was another fight in there where he stopped somebody else. Max Holloway, different animal. Who else did he stop? He stopped someone else.

Gaethje Alvarez. Alvarez. Alvarez. Eddie Alvarez. Another world champion. That was Eddie's last fight. Yeah. I mean, those are three legitimate champions.

I mean, I know Justin Gaethje was a champion in the PFL before it was the PFL, right? What did they call it back then? World Series of Fighting. Yeah. So he beat him. He beat Pettis. He beat Eddie Alvarez. Port is amazing.

Amazing. And this is that light heavyweight jump. And he also beat Jim Miller. I mean, damn. His last fight was at 45 against Michael. Was that at 55? 55. It might have been 55 with Michael Johnson.

That was before Johnson went to 45. Johnson at 45 is a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited about that fight. I'm excited for Poirier. He won a big-name fight, and he got it. Yeah, he's got an interim title shot.

Do you have any idea why Tony Ferguson turned it down? I do not know. I have not talked to tony ferguson i mean maybe it was because hey i already am the fucking interim title holder why would i fight for the interim title again max holloway though yeah i get that but i mean he already was the interim title holder and then they just took it away from him when he was doing crap i think it's really fucked up he comes back and beats pettis here's what's fucked up is now if the winner max always doesway does some pour, he's guaranteed a title shot. Yeah.

So Tony's still not going to get a shot. Yeah. They were trying to do Cowboy versus Conor. And apparently the sticking point was that it was going to be a co-main event. How dare they? I think the idea is that they have to have world titles as uh as a main event who says who that's my it's the wild west dw get your head out of your ass that's a main event shoot him a text so i don't have his number did he block you i think so we're not

seeing i i actually like the guy we have no problems i know i try to get you guys together i gave it my best shot i gave my fucking you tried man sometimes yeah i don't understand it man it's weird when you have friends that don't like each other you know when you good friends with both of them yeah and they're like fuck that guy you're like all right man i don't have to tell you but i don't i don't talk bad about it no you don't i criticize some like the ufc decisions because i do a show but then i have no issue with them at all i like that though i mean look part of the thrill of these things it's got to be raging al cowboy was in my office yesterday you know him white said he wants to fight he's ready to fight again let's fight against willick and another opponent for him maybe rage now said does not specify who's

going to be fighting next so it says dude you're telling me connor was like no i'm not taking the fight if i'm co-main event why in the fuck would you make that a co-main event yeah he said he could be out of action until the fall mcgregor could be you know the other thing is mcgregor hasn't fought in so long he hasn't fought MMA in so long It's not good Last fight was Khabib His last fight was Khabib Right

But he takes like almost two years off Right He fights Khabib He gets smoked by Khabib And then he has How long was that? Was that November? That was a long time off

It's not good No He needs to be active Like really active It's hard to be active, like really active. It's hard to be active when you're making that much money off of whiskey. That's the problem. The whiskey. The whiskey.

And he made like $100 million off of Floyd Mayweather fight. He's making b-b-b-b-b-b-bink off whiskey. I'm proud of him. He's doing great. Tight move. Look, between you and him, I mean, him while he's in the middle of his career and you post-career. I mean, you guys have laid some interesting blueprints for fighters. So, yeah, it was October.

October 2018. That's quite a long time ago. That's not good. Actually, it's not that far. November, December, January, February. That was only five months ago. Seems like a long time ago, though, doesn't it? But he has nothing coming up

So by the time he fights It's gonna be another year Yep Because that was his last fight Yep Which is two years And two years before that Was his previous fight

Yeah It's not good It's not good Especially if you wanna be Creme de la creme You just can't fight like that I think he's only Interested in big fights

Like things that excite him now You know Because he's got so much money And so much success It's just fights, like things that excite him now, you know, because he's got so much money and so much success. It's just one of those things. Can you blame him? But here, look at that, that main event. The main event of that fight was a non-title fight. Conor versus Nate Diaz.

That was non-title. I believe both times they fought. But the last one, the fact that it was a non-title fight, it was also the biggest pay-per-view of all time. Dude, whoever recommended that he be co-main event against Cowboy should get their mouths pissed in. That's ridiculous. That's so aggressive. That's why Dana doesn't like him.

Well, I don't know who that was I'm not saying Dana recommended that I'm just saying I'll just say that I disagree with their decision You're up I believe I can fly God Alright let's wrap this up

Before your voice goes out We did it dude There's no way I'm doing stand up tonight No I apologize to everyone Yeah you can't Well everybody who listens to this podcast Will know you're not faking it. They're going to be pissed.

What are you going to do? I don't know. What are you going to do? Are you at the store tonight for a Red Band show? I'm supposed to be at the store. But I'm back tomorrow night. It's a stacked show. I'll be back tomorrow night.

Tomorrow night. You good? Next week, I'm back on tour in Miami. Friday, Saturday. Miami Improv. Miami Improv. That's next week. Then after that, I'm in Milwaukee, Turner Hall.

After that, I'm in Washington, D.C., D.C. Improv. TFATK.com. Woo! Woo! All right, folks. We'll be back tomorrow with more goodness. See ya. Bye.

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