The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #74 with Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: August 7, 2019

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub to discuss some recent and upcoming fights. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do, do, do, do, do, do. No whiskey, bro? Do you want some? Yeah, hell yeah. Do you want a drink? Yeah. Really? Damn.
Starting point is 00:00:06 Why not, bro? You've had a long day. Okay, let's day drink. Yeah, let's get a little. Okay. Why not? No, you guys talk, I'll get it. Okay, Jamie's gonna get the booze.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Look at that. Jamie leaves us alone to get the booze. Thank you, Jamie. Real pro. Get some ice too. Beautiful. So, lot of fucking shit going on, man. Lot of shit going on. How about that Colby Covington fella, too. Beautiful. So, a lot of fucking shit going on, man.
Starting point is 00:00:26 A lot of shit going on. How about that Colby Covington fella, huh? Bro. Dude, everybody better shut the fuck up now. He's for real. He's for real. Anybody who didn't think he was for real after that Robbie Lawler fight, you got to go, wow. Well, the problem is he talks so much shit, which I find hilarious. You're tuning in to watch him lose yeah which is he's doing it
Starting point is 00:00:46 right because in all honesty we like him because we're balls deep in ufc and mma but like my brother who's not that big of a fan is like this is all he does i'm like i know you gotta understand though what he's doing this guy is amazing and he's gonna do it for five rounds for 25 minutes he wears y'all it's to me me, it's fascinating. It is fascinating. But it's not, but it's not entertaining for a general fan. Typically he's not knocking dudes out. Not a lot of submissions.
Starting point is 00:01:12 You know what I'm saying? So for the, for the general fan, like, Oh, and this guy talks all this shit, but he's doing it right. Because talking all that shit,
Starting point is 00:01:19 you're like, do I only see this guy get fucked up? Even John Jones posted, uh, you let everyone down, you know, like, uh, uh, Robbie Lawler, let everybody up. Even Jon Jones posted, you let everyone down. You know, like Robbie Lawler let everybody down. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody wants Colby to lose.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Right. Colby's doing exactly. Everyone's playing into his game plan. I love it. Well, that's how Floyd Mayweather became so rich. Floyd Mayweather did not become so rich because his fights were so exciting. His fights in his early career were way more exciting he was a savage early on he could go forward at risk but he broke his hands a bunch of times
Starting point is 00:01:50 correct and you know and also realize like this is not the way to have a long career and walk out of it with all your brains intact well think remember think how good john fitch was oh yeah he was a monster sure nice guy true. Beat some of the very best. Was tough to beat. Didn't talk shit, though, so no one really cared. So as soon as he had some issues, remember, he was like, hey, I don't like the way my face looks in that video game. UFC was like, cool, you're cut.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Like, what the fuck? I'm 20 and 0, man. Yeah, I think they cut him just because of... Do you want... We have the song we have left right here. But either one of those is good. This is all we have in this room We have a bunch of that
Starting point is 00:02:26 What's that? Buffalo Trace Do we have Buffalo Trace in the bag? I don't trust skinny bottles Yeah, that seems weird, right? Yeah It's for girls I don't trust skinny girls
Starting point is 00:02:37 It's girl whiskey Or skinny bottles, bro Canadian whiskey and maple syrup No, can't do maple I'm keto, bro Are you really? Straight keto Are you? When did that i sent i sent you and brian a text your your boy was up to 273 dude you got to 273 what were you eating road life dog road dog because when i when i get into towns and there's
Starting point is 00:02:59 all this you know if you're in nashville and philly wherever there's great food so i was just eating and drinking at night and no one said anything to me i hear you no one said anything no and then i remember i went to hawaii i went to hawaii i was looking at the other dads i'm like damn these dads are in shape i look like shit and my girl's like no you look fine everyone's lying man like on the scale it's not fine your boy's been keto 14 for 14 days. I feel great. 14 days. 14 days. Strict, bro. This is going to knock you out of keto anyway, though. This is whiskey.
Starting point is 00:03:28 There's no sugar in whiskey. There's not? Nope. It's alcohol. But there's no sugar in it. But alcohol doesn't convert to... Cheers, my brother. Cheers, brother.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Good to see you, man. Good to see you, too. Alcohol doesn't convert into sugar? I don't think so. Especially whiskey. Because whiskey and vodka are safe on ketogenic diet. Oh. Woo!
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, it's two in the afternoon, bro. Yeah. Two in the afternoon. Bonafide alcoholic now. Day drinking. I'm like a super shitty rum light. It's fun to drink a little bit before a show, right? Nothing better, man.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You started me on it. I'm like, I feel good up here. I'm messing around. Yeah, you get loose. Yeah. You don't want to be tight. Definitely don't want to be tight. No, You don't want to be tight. Definitely don't want to be tight. No, you don't want to drink it from either.
Starting point is 00:04:07 The Kobe Covington thing is, look, what he did, if you want to put it in perspective for a regular person, Robbie Lawler is one of the biggest fucking savages to ever compete in a sport. He's an animal. And Kobe shut him down. He shut everything down. He shut his entire game down. And he did it with an unprecedented work rate.
Starting point is 00:04:25 He was punching one punch every two seconds. Nuts. Which is nuts. I mean, to do that over five fucking rounds against one of the greatest welterweights of all time, Robbie Lawler, and win every single fucking round. Some 10-8 round, I thought. I was like, oh, this isn't even close. Yeah, I mean, not even close.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I mean, Robbie occasionally would swing and connect and then kobe would immediately hit him three or four times more and then take him down or clinch with him and beat him up and it was amazing kobe striking is not terrible either it's very pretty damn good it's very technical and the volume the volume is incredible but here here's my thing if if i'm fighting colby like if i'm uh carmelo usman if i'm fighting colby i'm getting a guy like cam haynes if i see my opponent running with cam haynes i'm i'm reaching out to another ultra marathon or figuring it out well kamaro can't run that's right he can't do road work his knees are fucked up yes oh yeah it's not getting any better his knees are mangled but But he's doing something, right? Well, his cardio is off the charts, too.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But it's just he does different things. You can do a lot of different things to work your cardio. Swimming and stuff? Sure. Swimming. You can do a lot of. The row. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The assault bike. You know, that echo bike that Rogue makes. That is as good as fucking anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that Peloton. I feel like it's lying to me. I work out every morning on that thing. I've never been thicker.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, but you're eating like an animal. Still, it says I burned 1,000 calories. You probably ate 4,000. Dude, I don't think so, man. I'm thankful as shit. I see those food truck diaries. You need to stop lying. Dude, no.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Those food truck tires. You're going hard in those food truck tires. I'm going hard in the food truck tires. And I'm the only one eating, if you notice. Yeah, because the other, the guest is talking. So tell me how you got starved. Lobster fucking sandwiches and shit. Pizza non-stop.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, you're going hard. Yeah, no shit right here, 270. Yeah, that's what happens. I can't find a heavyweight right now, man. That's what happens. It's real hard. But if I'm Kamaru, obviously cardio's not a problem for him. But, man, Colby, have you ever seen him tired?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Ever? No, no. I mean, he had that one loss in the UFC, but that was particularly because he came into the fight injured, took the fight on short notice. But he's got an amazing style that style of wrestling and striking and as a person who's fascinated by tactics right like his tactics are incredible because he's he's got great discipline to never he's never bites down his mouthpiece and throws as hard as he can never everything is like like a calculated, the output is all the same.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It's just constant, constant. Bang, bang, bang, kick, bang, bang, bang, punch, bang, bang, bang. He doesn't even really fire power shots. He's like, oh, no, this is a marathon. I'm going to wear your ass out. It's all the same pace. He's just constantly hitting you, constantly moving forward, constant volume. And it seemed like Robbie was waiting for him to pause in front of him.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Or get a little tired so he could fire shots off. And the bobbing and weaving that Robbie was doing, what was all that about? He had to be tired. I mean, I guess so. Doing all that bobbing and weaving. Oh, yeah. Tiresome. That's rough on the core.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, man. That's rough on the core. Try bobbing and weaving for a minute. If you're at home, just try doing this for a minute. Just a minute. Just a minute. You're going to get real tired and robbie's just trying to avoid getting beat up i mean this punch is just relentless they never end and what's funny too about colby is love him or hate him is he doubles down because he got on the mic and his line about matt hughes oh my god dude i was watching in and i was where was i i was in oh, Nashville. I was watching in the room with Derek Post and Ahsan Ahmad, my openers.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And when they said that, they were aware of Matt Hughes. And they go, that's ridiculous. I'm like, that's fantastic. It's A, because it is messed up. But that's his character, man. He's a heel. And he just doubled down so hard. So hard.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Because Matt Hughes is really close with Robbie Lawler And he said What he said for those that didn't watch the fight He goes You'd think Robbie Lawler would take a lesson from his boy Matt Hughes And get off the train tracks when a train is coming He's just saying The most controversial
Starting point is 00:08:44 Ruthless shit That he could say And here's what else So we're impressed by his Tactics right You know what's Even more impressive As a former fighter
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's Stressful enough Fighting another Grown man in steel cage Especially when they're really good It's fucking stressful Now imagine talking All that shit
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah And you gotta Deal with the consequences People hate you And he's a good dude Talk to Cam Haines He's a different guy Great guy
Starting point is 00:09:10 So he's a normal dude outside But he has to deal with all that pressure And still perform Then get on the mic I wonder if he's ever just in bed Just like God damn dude These death threats are getting real old
Starting point is 00:09:22 After that fight He has a real shot at being a world champion. A real shot. I know he was already the interim world champion. Those don't count, though, do they? After that fight, they don't count. No. Well, you know how you know they don't count?
Starting point is 00:09:33 They stripped him, and he didn't even lose. Yeah, it doesn't matter. How does that make any sense? They stripped him because he didn't want to fight again quickly after a five-round fucking war with RDA. And he needed surgery. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:44 But also, they don't count either because your contract doesn't, you don't get, when you're a champ, your contract, you get bumped up to higher pay. Interim champs don't get bumped up. Right. What was the surgery for? It was something, I feel like in his face. Oh, like a sinus? Yeah, something major.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. Yeah. Something like a deviated septum. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a fucking, he's a fucking He's a phenomenal fighter
Starting point is 00:10:07 But now think about this, you take his style He doesn't go backwards, wrestling, cardio Kamaru Usman doesn't go backwards Wrestling, cardio The only thing I see I would imagine Kamaru's gonna be a slight Favorite because of his power The one kind of distinguishing
Starting point is 00:10:23 Kind of factors, kamara has a lot more power right kamara we can knock you out neither one's a knockout artist right kamara can knock people out though it's not his trait probably can knock people out too but his approach is to throw everything at like 50 60 he was slaying in some early in that first round against robbie they were exchanging if it would have connected connected, it could have been trouble for either guy. For either guy. He was getting Robbie's respect. And I think that was the strategy that you kind of have to wade through the fire
Starting point is 00:10:50 with Robbie in the beginning because he's coming hard. He's coming hard. He's coming hard. Now, here's the question for you is what's more impressive, what Colby did to Robbie Lawler or what Kamaru Usman did to Tyrone Woodley? It's a very good question. Well, well obviously Tyrone Woodley was the champion and Robbie Lawler was several years removed from the title so you have to look at it that way right Tyrone took the title from Robbie with a one punch knockout and Robbie's had some some losses since then some wars yeah some wars since then
Starting point is 00:11:22 the Ben Askren fight in particular Kamaru beat Woodley when he was fucking Woodley. Yes, yes. But according to many people, Woodley was injured going into that fight. He's had some pretty significant problems with his hands. Something was up with him. Yes. He just seemed off. And he's also, I mean, I don't know how much of a factor this is, but he also released
Starting point is 00:11:40 a record with Wiz Khalifa. He was rapping. He was doing. He had his TMZ show. He was doing a lot. And I love the fact that he's doing that because Tyron Woodley's a smart man. He realizes he's in his 30s and how much more time does he have as an athlete? Oh, he's very talented in all aspects.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Very talented. Very smart. And his rapping's good, man. I listen to his shit. I didn't mind it either. It's fucking good. It's good. It's not cringy at all.
Starting point is 00:11:59 No. It's fucking good. You could see him being a successful rapper. 100%. He'll be successful in whatever he does after fighting. Anything he does. Anything. He's smart.
Starting point is 00:12:07 He's ambitious. He's been in a thousand movies. He grinds. He's a fucking hardworking man. Great guy. But he wants that title back, right? So he's on the grind right now to try to get that title back. And the beating that Usman put on him was fucking sensational.
Starting point is 00:12:22 One of the most impressive performances. Whatever. If Woodley had one arm, whatever. that Usman put on him was fucking sensational. One of the most impressive performances. Whatever, if Woodley had one arm, whatever, but I didn't know that going in. Just seeing what he did to Woodley,
Starting point is 00:12:31 I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. He looked like he broke him. Yeah. Which was crazy because even Woodley in the corner, he didn't,
Starting point is 00:12:37 and I don't know if you had Woodley on since, he just didn't look like he was there. Like he wasn't present. Like it didn't look like your normal world champion Woodley. Is Woodley scheduled for a fight right now? I don't was there. Like, he wasn't present. Like, it didn't look like your normal world champion, Woodley.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Is Woodley scheduled for a fight right now? I don't think so. I think he's trying to heal up. And have you, you know. He was supposed to fight Robbie again. Yeah. But here's the other thing. Did you know, you know, remember Woodley had that whole kind of back and forth with Dana and all that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I remember, I forget who he told this to, but they asked him if you could do it all over again with the way you handled the UFC, would you do it? And he goes, no, it was exhausting. I wouldn't do that again. What was exhausting? Fighting with the UFC. Remember, he was like anti-Dana. It never works out for anyone, does it? Well, I get their perspective that they want respect
Starting point is 00:13:22 and they want to be treated like a champion. And, you know, I felt like my personal feeling was that he wasn't being represented correctly in terms of the way they were talking about his fights. 100%. I felt like he was fighting in, especially me as a fan of tactics, like he was fighting Wonderboy for two fights. And Wonderboy is the most difficult guy in the fucking sport to look good against he's so difficult to look good against but the first fight was
Starting point is 00:13:48 amazing it was great great fight and again he was the one who was doing the damage Wonderboy is one of the best strikers to ever
Starting point is 00:13:56 fight in MMA he knocked Wonderboy down he had Wonderboy hurt Wonderboy never had him hurt but he fought an intelligent fight to deal
Starting point is 00:14:04 with the tactics that Wonderboy provides like you can't chase Wonderboy you had him hurt, but he fought an intelligent fight to deal with the tactics that Wonderboy provides. You can't chase Wonderboy. You can't go after him. He will fucking catch you with a counter-strike. What he did is he made Wonderboy lead. He waited for his openings. He stayed patient. It wasn't a lot of action, but when he delivered, he opened
Starting point is 00:14:19 up and he landed a fucking haymaker in the first fight. Had him really badly hurt. He did the same thing in the first fight, had him really badly hurt. He did the same thing in the second fight, had him really badly hurt in a couple spots. He's also one of the most active champions. But you've got to be able to say that. If you're a fan of the sport, what I would say, if I was in Dana White's shoes and I was talking about that fight, I would say if you're a fan of the sport, you've got to understand that there are certain fighters where it's very difficult to look good against.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I understand that if you're a fan and you want blood and you want chaos, it didn't really quite live up to your expectations, but that's not what this sport is all about. What this sport is all about is two incredibly talented and well-trained killers. And they're going after each other and they're both trying to figure out the openings to win. And Tyron was able to win. And he was able to win against one of the most difficult guys in the division and you know they didn't do that did they no they didn't but there's going to be guys where he looks amazing against like fucking darren till he made darren till he shut darren till down darren till that's that's a shame to me the darren till story right now and his story's not over he's a young kid but the way he was handled and i know you know
Starting point is 00:15:24 they've exploded guys in the spotlight and it does work out but that and that is professional sports that's ufc with darren tilly you look at all the talent that he had and it's just i still got talent oh no he he's gonna be fine he's so big it's fucking tough i think he's cutting way too much weight to make 170 i really do i mean he's that kid you stand next to him, he looks like a light heavyweight. I'm with you. I've always been the guy who goes, man, guys should grow up weight classes. And now, when Max Holloway went to 55 against Dustin Poirier, it was a good fight, but he looks way better at 45.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Luke Rockhold at 85. But Dustin Poirier going to 155 made his career. He was 145, he was struggling, goes to 55, makes his career. I know. I know. Dos Angeles at 70 mean there's a bunch of cases for it well dos angeles at 70 though has not won the title but he started off hot as fuck and he's running some problems but run into a lot of really tough guys yes yeah he's older he's running a lot of really tough guys but like rockhold from 85 to 205 i was shouting from the rooftops this the guy that maybe can compete with Jon Jones. And then he got in there and just looked slow, lethargic, just a different game.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He didn't look good. Like, Weidman, I think, is going to be great at 205. But Jan Blachowicz looked great. You got to think about this was like a showcase fight for him. And he's a big fucking strong guy. And when he clipped him with that left hook and knocked him out. For sure. I mean, Luke didn't look like himself. He looked slower, hesitant. He's had injuries. strong guy and when he clipped him with that left hook and knocked him out for sure i mean luke luke
Starting point is 00:16:45 didn't look like himself he looked slower hesitant he's had injuries he's a model bro yeah he's a model like real model yeah but he's spraying like perfume on him in commercials like what are you doing making bank bro i guess and busting nuts i guess so making bank and busting nuts that's what he's doing joe but right now he's drinking through a straw yeah i know it's shit yeah i mean hey that's why don's eating all his food. Don't fight. With his jaw wired shut. Spray cologne and bust nuts.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, it might be what he's doing from now on. I think it is. But when you're a world champion, in the back of his head, it's probably that feeling of being a world champion. When he beat Chris Weidman, probably the greatest feeling of his life. But he's also had real problems with that shin. They let him fight with that shin sleeve on. And he was kicking with it and shit.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I know. For people who don't know what we're talking about, he had a massive staph infection. Horrible. And he had to get skin grafts on his shin, and it's still fucked up. Here's the thing about Luke, though, and I love Luke, and he knows this. He's a friend of mine, but he's had a great, long-ass career, man. To me, that's not a sad story. If Darren Till doesn't become champion, that's a sad story.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Luke Rockhold's been a world champion at Strikeforce and the UFC. Smashed Machida. Dude, he's beat some of the very best guys in the world. He's a dime piece. He's fine. He's made his legacy. Yeah. So to me, the shame is a guy like Darren Till if he doesn't bounce back.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, maybe. But I think Luke Rockhold really believes that he could get back into the kind of form that he was in when he was a world champion. I just don't think he could ever make 185 again, and 205 is a different animal. There are enormous men that are dropping down to 205, and he looked like he was carrying weight. He was jacked. Yeah. He was huge. He looked slow.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah, he looked real slow, lethargic. In comparison to how he looked Yeah I agree You gotta think You get 20 extra pounds on you But that's what he walks around at You know what I'm saying He walks around that way
Starting point is 00:18:31 I think he might have put weight on too And to cut down a 205 So he could be a big 205 And that might have been part of the problem 205's kind of popping these days It was a little sad It was Struggle City about a year ago A lot of killers
Starting point is 00:18:43 A lot of killers But no one That is a real Promising threat To Jon Jones Santos Put on a fucking show Thiago Santos
Starting point is 00:18:52 And blew out With one leg Yeah And I knew His leg was blew out Early on I didn't And then when they told me
Starting point is 00:18:58 He tore his ACL MCL Everything I was like And he still competed like that I could tell Early in the first he threw something early in the first you could see his leg go yeah i could you you said something about
Starting point is 00:19:09 it right something's going on although i will say this as santos is bad as fuck and then before that anthony smith both amazing fighters john's getting a little older john's getting lower and i think there's a guy and you know i think john's the greatest of all time hands down no argument but he i think they're starting to be a little chink in his armor, maybe. You think so? Yeah. What makes you say that? Well, with Santos, there was some-
Starting point is 00:19:31 Santos is a fucking savage, man. Santos is a savage for sure. And John fought him stand up for some strange reason. I was surprised, especially with Santos' fucked up leg that John didn't take him down. That performance didn't blow me away by John. No. By no means. And Santos had one leg. I didn't understand that performance. Yeah, I don't know why you didn't take him down. That performance didn't blow me away by John by no means. And Santos had one leg. I didn't understand
Starting point is 00:19:46 that performance. I don't know why you didn't take him down. Right. I felt like John is one of the best wrestlers in the fucking sport. He took down Daniel Cormier. He submitted fucking Leo Machida. I mean, Vitor Belfort. Rampage Jackson. Ryan Bader. He's amazing. Yeah, he could take him down. I wonder what was going on there. And the guy's got
Starting point is 00:20:02 one knee. I mean, he can't even walk right. The game plan was very strange. But I saw that and went, well, and here's where I was thinking with that is, will John go undefeated? Probably. I bet a good amount of money on that. But there's a guy like a – I don't think you can sit on the outside and beat John. Like a Reyes, like a guy who's super technical and long,
Starting point is 00:20:19 you're not going to outsmart John on the outside. It's not happening. I think it's going to come from a guy like Johnny Walker who throws like a spinning heel kick and catches walker's fighting someone good who's he fighting he's fighting your boy who was just on the wrestler the the black dude oh cory and cory anderson they were talking shit to each other that's in that's in new york oh that's a good cory has crazy cardio that's a great fight crazy let's see what if johnny walker's because if you beat cory you're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You beat him, we're going Sizzler. Yes, yes. Or if Corey beats him, he's going Sizzler. Corey's already there. Corey's already an elite guy. Well, he is an elite guy, but he's not being talked about in terms of a title shot. Because of his style. And that's very frustrating to him.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah, but that style is fucking hard to handle, man. It doesn't matter. They're not in the business of that. But look at fucking, look at Colby Covington it's a similar style just constant pressure yeah you're right and you know he talks a lot of shit colby did to get there yeah well cory's a really nice guy and his guys finish last don't they oh shit sometimes they win really yes and no he can win for sure he's the dark it's gonna take a lot of work, though, to get there. Let's say you have a guy who's like Conor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He's going to catapult to the front before a guy who's super nice. You're talking about good with personality. Yes. Catapult. UFC's can go rocket ship, go. Isn't that crazy, though, that that's part of the sport? Part of the sport is how much money can you generate? Because it's not just about how well you perform as a fighter.
Starting point is 00:21:50 It's about how many people are interested in you fighting. It's crazy. It's crazy. But that's the nature of the beast, isn't it? Well, that's why I hope that having a guy like Corey on my podcast or you having him on your podcast lets people know what a great guy this is. This is a guy to root for. He's a great guy. I agree. And this is a guy to root for. He's a great guy. I agree.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And he can fight his fucking ass off. I agree. But the casuals don't, for whatever reason, they don't gravitate towards it. Well, if he wins, they will. Well, you just got to become undeniable. Yes. Which he's slowly getting there. Yes, he's slowly getting there.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And he's got one of the best trainers in the fucking world. You know, Mark Henry is the shit. The best, yep. And his camp is fucking fantastic it's got marlin and frankie he'll get a title shot yeah i think so too and you know who's another nice guy fucking lunch you better pack a lunch if you're fighting cory but here's where nice guys don't finish last if the guy they're fighting is down to play the game via dc john jones dc's as nice as they come it doesn't talk shit Him versus Stipe
Starting point is 00:22:45 Especially the first fight Not a lot But that sells Just off their talents But if you can get a guy Like Jose Aldo Conor McGregor Jose's nice as they come
Starting point is 00:22:54 And get this Fucking Irish title wave And everyone's like I'll watch that And then Jose Aldo Even though he's one of the greatest Of all time
Starting point is 00:23:02 At 45 Everyone tuned in And then he He kind of took a lot of fans With him Even though he lost one of the greatest of all time at 45, everyone tuned in. And then he kind of took a lot of fans with him. Even though he lost, he was this huge star. That could happen for Corey with Jon Jones. Yeah. Although Jon Jones doesn't really talk shit. He's just a bad guy outside.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He'll talk shit to DC, though. Him and DC hate each other. Yeah, that's interesting. Dude, Jon Jones, DC for the heavyweight title? I think that's the future. You do? If Stipe wins in this fight that's next weekend, I think that Stipe fights Jon Jones as heavyweight. And Jon Jones moves up to heavyweight and tries to win the title.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Agreed. And then DC fights Jon Jones for the heavyweight title when Jon's the champion. If Jon can beat Stipe. when John's the champion, if John can beat Stipe. Or if Stipe can beat DC and then Stipe can beat John Jones, depending on how the fight goes. Look, the bottom line is DC knocked Stipe senseless one round, knocked him out cold for the title.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It wasn't a dominating fight. He did knock him out. Doesn't matter. Boom. Out goes the lights. He's the champ matter He did knock him out Doesn't matter Boom I'm with you 100% I'm not cold If he can beat him again man And say
Starting point is 00:24:10 Jon Jones He's going Get your shit together Yeah If he does that Oh dude God damn Biggest fight in UFC history
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yes At heavyweight It would be enormous What is this Pound for pound Daniel Cormier Number two Khabib Number three Jon Jones
Starting point is 00:24:23 Come on Settle down folks settle down whoever's doing that come on but also listen to me john jones beat him twice he's undefeated he's beaten every fucking human being he's ever competed against in real life okay every single one there's one loss in his career it's a nonsense loss they're trying to reverse. I 100% support reversing that loss. At the very least, make it a no contest. John dominated that fight, smashed him. There's no
Starting point is 00:24:51 fucking way that's a loss. If I was the UFC, I'd just mark it as he's undefeated. I wouldn't even acknowledge that. Fuck your athletic commissions. Ask Matt Hamill how his night went. Watch the fight. Did you see Matt Hamill talk shit to John? He's talking shit. Let's have a rematch. Like, what? Are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Bro, you want to lose your fucking vision too? What are you doing? Dude, just stop. I'm going to get some shit for that. Just stop all that. Hey, dude. Hamill, be cool though.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You know what I'm saying? Just be cool. Even John went, come on, bro. He was even mean to him. John just goes, come on, bro. I'm never fighting you. There's not even a conversation about who's the light, heavyweight goat.
Starting point is 00:25:30 There's no conversation. No, what are we talking about? No, John, anytime you talk pound for pound, John's clearly even that. The only one who was challenging for pound for pound was Mighty Mouse. And Mighty Mouse, the caveat was that he never beat anybody like John Jones beat. It wasn't the same caliber of fighter. It wasn't a DC. And then when he lost to Henry Cejudo, he'd go out.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And by the way, super close fucking decision loss. Very close. Could have gone either way. Yeah, very close. Could have gone to Mighty Mouse. But loss is a loss. Loss is a loss. It's like I see Demetrius Johnsonson and mighty mount and and uh and john jones as being an
Starting point is 00:26:06 argument for number one but after that there's no argument and especially in light heavyweight there's no argument it's john jones everybody else can go pound sand there's not it's not even close i think john goes to heavyweight everybody's fucked too although him him versus dc at heavyweight is so much more interesting than light heavyweight because dc knocks dudes out man right and john jones if he goes up who knows if he will have the same cardio who knows if you have the same if he'll be as fast there's something about guys going up like look luke rockhold same same story he goes up to light heavyweight he's got all this extra bulk on him now. See, I don't think John's going to go up to like 240.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I think he's going to come in at a fucking lean, mean 225, 230. Doesn't cut any weight. That's why he trained that anyways. I hope so. And he just fucking does work. Yeah, maybe he just comes in and looks just like John Jones at light heavyweight. He just doesn't cut any weight. And that's all, I mean, I don't know about now, but especially back in the day when I was at Jackson's,
Starting point is 00:27:06 all he really did is go with heavyweights and ragdoll them. Ragdoll them. I'll tell you what, when he fought OSP, I talked to Jackson afterwards, and Greg was saying, I don't like the fact that he's been doing all this powerlifting. And he goes, and I feel like that played a part in this fight. He got so jacked. He did get giant.
Starting point is 00:27:24 But I didn't think that i felt i felt that it was osp i feel like osp rose to the occasion he's a dangerous guy he's a super athletic guy he's big he's got a powerful left kick you know and he's an awkward fighter osp fights awkward and you fuck up and he catches you with a left hook explosive impossible to take down typically he's a fucking strong guy man and yeah i don't know maybe we're just not giving these guys enough credit because i think because we think so high of john whenever it's close i'm like ah john had an off night that's what maybe these guys are really fucking good i think osp rose the occasion i have a lot of respect for osp when i look at that fight i think osp fought a great fight and he fought with a fucking broken arm.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Okay? He fought the entire last round with a broken arm and never even said a thing about it. He was fighting with a fucking broken forearm. He's a beast, man. He's a beast. And that's why I think John didn't look so good in that fight. I disagree that he didn't look good because of the weightlifting, but I don't know him the way Greg Jackson does. Here's the only caveat to that, and I don't want to open this can of worms. That was
Starting point is 00:28:28 also the first time he's been under strict testing. That's what the naysayers would say. Well, that is the first time maybe little Pico wasn't around. I don't know. Here's my defense of that being a John Jones dick sucker. Even with Pete, you can fucking fill up anyone
Starting point is 00:28:43 who he fights on whatever PDs you want He's still beating them Whatever he's doing Whether he's taking things or not You could give his Freaking opponents As much as they want to They're not beating him
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's a tough argument though You think Yeah I don't know if that's Necessarily true You fill up Thiago Santos Full of fucking Anadrol 50
Starting point is 00:29:01 He might run right through John Jones Talking about that Brazilian acai Yeah you might be right He might fucking Kick his head off He might throw some Fucking haymakers That Vitor Bell Force spinning kick anadrol 50 he might run right by the brazilian acai yeah you might be right he might kick his head off he might throw some fucking that vitor bell for spinning cake who knows man i still think john he just he's too smart too technical i don't know i don't either but we don't and we don't have to know we don't have to know because that testing is strict yeah i think i legitimately believe that
Starting point is 00:29:23 what he got was through tainted means and I don't even know if it was supplements. You know, the big theory was that he got cocaine that was laced with creatine. I hope that's the problem. Apparently, according to someone who I know who really knows their shit, this is an expert. expert he said this is very common that when you buy cheap creatine cheap creatine often has other shit in it because you're buying it from china and from other places that have unscrupulous mixing thing and i listen as one of the owners of on it i know that this we never had our stuff test positive for steroids but what we did have is when we looked at the early batches of alpha brain we had it independently tested you know when we first when aubrey and i first opened on it we didn't know what the
Starting point is 00:30:09 fuck we were doing in terms of we hadn't run a supplement company before and there was a lot of learning to do and one of the things that we learned was that when you're buying stuff and then you're having stuff mixed the people that are mixing it if you don't get the very best people you're getting people that mix stuff that don't clean out their vats. So you might get Winstroll in there. You can get anything in there. That's the shit I want. We never got steroids in ours, but probably because the stuff we're buying is nootropics, which are just nutrients that enhance brain function.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So the people that were selling stuff were selling similar things, vitamins and the like. But we did get our stuff tainted, in a sense, with other nutrients that weren't supposed to be in there. So then we had to do some investigation, and then we figured out what the problem was, and we adjusted our methods, and we changed the people we work with, and we did a lot of different things. But if you're buying cheap creatine, that's what Coke dealers use. Joe, why is he buying cheap creatine? Are you saying the Coke from a shady dude? Yeah, he's buying New Mexico Coke. I'm not saying he is. You're a millionaire, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He might be. Listen, I've smoked some weed from some fucking shady people. Preach. And I'm a millionaire, too. Preach. People bring me some weed. If they're my friend, I'm like, all right, bro, smoke some weed. You ain't lying.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. I've ate some weird stuff. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. I don't know if I'd buy it. friend i'm like all right bro smoke some weed you ain't lying yeah i've ate some weird stuff yes yes yes yeah that's fair yeah i don't know if i buy it investigate everything i eat no never dave chapelle gave me some edibles the other day i don't know where the fuck they came from if he's eating it i mean it bro in a bag he probably made himself i'm pretty sure he ate mushrooms from a fan the other day that's so gangster that's so hardcore. We went to see Once Upon a Time in America at one o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Dave rented out the entire movie theater. We do this fucking sold out show in the Tacoma Dome. We break the all time attendance record for the Tacoma Dome.
Starting point is 00:31:56 25,000 people. It was madness. Right? We're flying high. It's insane. It was an insane show. Who's the host? Who opens for you guys?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Well, it's Ashley Barnhill. She goes on. She does 10 minutes. And then Ian Edwards goes on. Monster. Murders it. And then I go on. Murdered it.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It was a fucking crazy intermission. There's a DJ. He's got a hype man. Chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga. People get drinking. Fucking lights and everything. It's madness. Okay?
Starting point is 00:32:22 Then Don L. Rawlings goes on. Murder. Legend. Murders. Then Dave goes onlings goes on. Murders. Then Dave goes on, lights the place on fire, pisses gasoline on the flames. Then afterwards, he and I go on stage together. And what do you do together?
Starting point is 00:32:35 We take Q&A with the crowd. Donnell's got a microphone. He's going to the crowd with 25,000 people. People are rushing the stage. It's madness. What questions did you get random rich bitch people are just they're everyone's drunk i'm sure dave the show is five hours old by the time this is happening i'm not exaggerating we go on stage the show's supposed to start at eight probably starts at 8 30 9 10 11 12 the show was at least at least three and a half four hours old by the time was over
Starting point is 00:33:06 so the show ends like 12 30 ish we go immediately from the arena straight to a movie theater that david rented out we have a private screening of once upon a time in hollywood at one o'clock in the morning dave's eating mushrooms that some fucking guy gave them in the crowd did you eat them too no too smart for that fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me is that us up there yeah wow bro it was nuts it was not did you like the movie it's long long at one in the morning we got out of there 4 30 in the morning then we get on a jet in the morning at 10 we fly to Salt Lake City, and immediately everybody gets an IV vitamin drip. That Dave set up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. B12 shots.
Starting point is 00:33:50 These motherfuckers go rock style. Professional. Rock star style. Professional. Dave's got sunglasses on the entire time. The whole crew is getting, he has a posse with him. He brings his own photographer. It was madness.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Legend. I was like, okay, I see how you guys are doing it. Oh, by the way, we get picked up at the airport in a tour bus. It takes a tour bus, 10 minutes in a tour bus to the airport, or from the airport to the hotel. And you're flying private, I assume. Right. Why drive around in an SUV?
Starting point is 00:34:17 We could drive in a fucking tour bus. That's for fucking... It's hilarious. Wow. It's so much fun. How did this... But this is what I was wondering. So were you and Dave at the store, and Dave was likeave was like who asked who like you're both titans dave called up my well he
Starting point is 00:34:32 called up his agent i want to do a show with joe rogan and then his agent calls up my agent and they call me and i go i'm in let's do it and then did you guys text after like yo it's going down no we didn't even all business it, all business. It's all business. We just met at the arena. Well, look, I love that guy. You guys know each other. You see each other at the store. Yeah, so he says, you know, when they say it, I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It sounds like an awesome idea. And I'm free that weekend. Great idea. But it was only like five weeks out. The show sells out in 24 hours. He doesn't have social media. No, but that was the thing is that since he doesn't have social media and i do it like magnifies everything because with all the fucking people that i have seven million on instagram and five million on twitter and two million on facebook it's like
Starting point is 00:35:14 all of that shit and then the i don't even think i mentioned it on the podcast i don't think i don't think we had you didn't have to it's so that's like secret shows that sell out in like 30 seconds exactly well he does a lot of clubs and theaters and does whatever he wants he said he's a free bird you know i'm saying like he's free he just does whatever he wants he wears his own clothes too he does you notice that he's on his show isn't that great oh i love it man i fucking love it he's he's living wild man it's beautiful are you guys gonna do more together? Fuck yeah. Where are you scheduling them?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I can't say anything because they're not scheduled. God, it's so cool. We had a great goddamn time. Can I tell you what drives me nuts? What? And this is for any artists out there. Your guys' art, and I text you this. You two, and take this however you want.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You two are fucking legends, man. For you two to get together and do shows is insane. And to use shit that me or Callan used to promote the shows drove me nuts. That's nonsense. It's not, though, Joe. For the fans, if you get a dope fucking artist
Starting point is 00:36:14 to do something with you and Dave Chappelle, it's not for you. I'm sure we will. In the future, we will. Any artist, please, man. They ran off some t-shirts in Salt Lake City. Just a small batch for the fuck of it. There's one I sent to Jamie.
Starting point is 00:36:25 It's Jay-Z and Eminem in New York. Like two titans come together. Oh, man. When I saw what you guys were posting, I was like, oh, motherfucker. Yeah, you worry about that too much. I don't, though. I don't. I'm a fan.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I appreciate that. That's a history. Well, we'll iron that out because we're going to do a gang more of these. So we'll iron all that shit out I'm sure Dave cares but he doesn't have social media He doesn't have any social media He doesn't even pay attention He's the freest guy I've ever met
Starting point is 00:36:53 In terms of not being locked into his phone He doesn't even look at his phone He doesn't even have it on him He's got a phone but he doesn't look at it He makes phone calls He FaceTimes people and shit He's not checking social media at all did you learn anything from him just being around him well that is interesting well this is what i learned there's levels to everything and he's on this like super celebrity rock star level that's really weird it's really weird but he's so nice he's so like he's so fun to be around like part of why dave
Starting point is 00:37:28 is so funny is because he's fun like when you're around him it's not like he's serious and then he goes on stage and then he's funny yeah no all day long is all day long it's like legs slapping and looking you in the eyes and fucking cracking and high-fiving. It's fun, man. He's a fun dude. But he's also very wise. He's wise in his approach. For instance, he lives in the middle of Ohio on a fucking farm.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And that's by design. To get away from all the noise? Yes. To get away from all the fucking noise, man. He wants peace and quiet mixed in with these intermittent bouts of madness so he has these crazy radio city music hall shows that's similar to you though well you don't live in freaking no but la but eventually i'm gonna move out of california how dare you yeah when you're older no not that much time i think pretty soon no yeah
Starting point is 00:38:23 you mean get a place but you you're still going to be here. I'm going to eventually move. Be at the store and shit. I'm going to eventually move. Yeah. What? Yeah. For good?
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. I'm going to keep a place here, and I'm probably going to still do shows out of this studio. I'll fly in to do them. I'll probably wind up banking them, doing them in a week, and then taking the rest of the month off. Wow. Yeah. I don't want to be here. What about the store? There's too many. of banking them like doing them in a week and then taking the rest of the month off wow yeah
Starting point is 00:38:45 i don't want to be what about the store there's too well i love the store but you know i also love the improv i've been doing a lot of improv shows improv is great yeah ice house is amazing i'm still gonna do shows but i really think that there's something that's taxing about the volume of people here agree that bothers me especially with kids when i yeah and when i came back from italy you know i was in italy for 12 days when i came back like the the fucking highway at we landed at like 10 o'clock at night just bumper to bumper on the 405 i was like this is stupid this is a stupid place to live because i travel so much i know i mean i could travel out of denver you know i could live in denver and travel out of there. Denver's crowded as fuck too. It's not as bad. 25,000 people a month
Starting point is 00:39:27 moving there. It's a beast. It's blown up. It's a lot. Yeah. Maybe Montana. But there's places to live that are more peaceful.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, but are you going to be satisfied not doing sets every night at the store, man? Oh. There's no way. Like your happiness, you know what i'm saying like it's
Starting point is 00:39:46 a weird balance because i i hear you i hear you were the balance for your family and stuff but like i check off boxes when i go out at night and i can i see like my i i don't i don't you're saying i don't hang out man i hang out the store when i see you there uh at the improv when i see my friends or this is me hanging out i check those boxes on that i don't hang out man the store when I see you there At the improv when I see my friends Or this is me hanging out I check those boxes Other than that I don't hang out man But I need that For my own sanity
Starting point is 00:40:10 I need it But I mean I feel like you can also get that when you tour You know you can get that when you go on the weekends I think I'd have to do more clubs I can't just do theaters Because I really feel like it's a numbers thing Like in terms of Almost like if you're doing cardio
Starting point is 00:40:24 Well you can't do hard cardio once a week and expect to be in shape. You won't be in shape. You've got to do a bunch. You have to do it many, many times a week. So if you're going to live somewhere other than L.A., I feel like you have to do at least five sets a week. I think that's the magic number. So I think you'd have to do a weekend where you're doing two shows a night,
Starting point is 00:40:43 Friday, two shows a night, Saturday, and you'd have to do a weeknight somewhere. Or Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, you'd have to do a weekend where you're doing two shows a night, Friday, two shows a night, Saturday, and you'd have to do a weeknight somewhere. Or Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, you'd have to do something like that, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Or you could open your own club in Montana. Thursday, Friday, Saturday is better than Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh, Sunday can suck my dick.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, Sunday's a whack night. Sunday, that's the Lord's day, bro. It's a bummer of a night, right? Everybody's exhausted. Oh, God. I don't do Sundays. Joey Diaz, I think you and joey diaz told me never do sundays i did it once and i was depressed but also then i don't get a day off
Starting point is 00:41:09 with my family yeah not good i don't work monday nights and then i don't work sundays that's my only rule those are smart days yeah yeah i'm the same way with you sunday and monday is how i've been doing it lately yeah and you got to do that you got to have those boundaries where you decide to take nights i mean occasionally i'll do a monday night but most of the time it's not most of the time i take those off but i think there's a real benefit to not being overrun by the volume of people out here is that what you think that's why dave one of the reasons he excels you guys are similar with that where you don't you're not really tuned in with like the masses meaning tune in where you're not glued to your freaking no twitter well also he's not into going to like red carpet events and
Starting point is 00:41:51 getting photographs neither are you you hate that shit well i just feel like it's a circle jerk you know and everybody's just you know it's just weird the the whole celebrity world is very weird it's very weird but i get how people love when you're famous and then you're around other famous people they're the only people that think you're normal you know they also understand what you're going through yeah yeah but it's it's like i ran into jamie foxx the other night at a steakhouse most talented guy in the world and nicest hands down the most talented guy in the world but uh but when i see him it's like what what's up? What are you doing? What's going on, man? And we're talking and laughing and joking around.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm like, he's never weirded out. He's so famous. He's like, he probably never gets a chance to be a normal person. Never. Unless he's around other famous people. Where you don't want a picture or an autograph or something. All that movie you did. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he movie you did. All right, man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he likes to just hang out and have fun. I wish you'd get him back on the podcast. He wants to do it. We were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:42:51 But like a real long-form podcast. Last time he was like pushing his sunglasses or some shit. Oh, yeah, that's right. He had a sunglass deal. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He was doing. I don't think he's even doing that anymore. He had a great story. No, I don't think so. Somebody probably sheckled out some fucking serious cheddar.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Oh, dude. Serious. Jamie Foxx and those bullshit sunglasses. No, I don't think so. Somebody probably shackled out some fucking serious cheddar. Oh, dude. Serious. Jamie Foxx and those bullshit sunglasses. Yeah, man. It was him and Jeremy Piven. They were pushing sunglasses? Yeah, it was him and Piven together. Are those still alive?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Are those sunglasses still alive? Is Piven still alive? No, no. Those sunglasses. Oh, I don't think. No, no. The answer to all that is no. Yeah, the sunglasses kind of, I think, fizzled out.
Starting point is 00:43:24 But you've got to figure, Jamie Foxx to push sunglasses? You think he needs money from your fucking sunglass sales? Right, why did he do that? They had to pay him fucking bank. Did I ever tell you I ran into him at a gas station? Some guy pulls up in a fucking car that doesn't even look like it's from this planet. Some strange SUV, some weird fucking, I don't know what it's called. But I looked at it.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I was like, what the fuck is that thing? One of those apocalypse tank? Weird, weird looking thing. I forget what it's based on. It's based on like the frame of a Jeep Wrangler, and they build this insane $500,000 fucking SUV on it. I'm like, who is Jamie? And the window rolls down.
Starting point is 00:44:03 What's up, Joe? It's Jamie Foxx. I'm like, oh, what are you doing, Jamie? I'm like, what is Jamie? And the window rolls down. What's up, Joe? And it's Jamie Foxx. I'm like, oh, what are you doing, Jamie? I'm like, what is this? And his friend was selling them. His friend probably gave it to Jamie to drive around. For sure. The same way he sold.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. I was like, this is the craziest car I've ever seen. It's so weird looking. You know what it is? They're like boxy, right? But then they have squeaky little lights. Yeah. I don't know How to even find it
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah Just Google Jamie Foxx crazy SUV Why I know Crazy expensive Jeep Wranglers That I got so far Why I know this I don't know
Starting point is 00:44:32 But it's Chris Brown drives One of his new video Where he dances With the house girl Oh he's got one of them too Yeah They're probably
Starting point is 00:44:39 Giving them away to people For sure Rezvani tank Yes Yeah let me see Let me see what that Pitch looks like Yeah they're sick
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah that makes sense Give it to Chris Brown You know It's in his video That's it Yeah that's it Look at that thing That's exactly it
Starting point is 00:44:52 That thing's so cool Look at that thing Look at that thing It's nuts It's fucking Robocop Look it's dope though He pulled up Fuck it's dope
Starting point is 00:45:00 He's got the suicide doors in the back And the interior is gorgeous The engine's made Based off Jeep Wrangler? I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. You got a... There it is.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That's a dope ride, man. Fuck yeah. It's really incredible. But I hear... I want one. I mean, they're real expensive, right? This is $150, $180, something like that. Oh, that's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Not terrible. I thought it was like half a million. Me too. I thought at least 350. 500 horsepower, 180,000. Sufficient. 180. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Isn't it funny that 500 horsepower used to be insanity? Me and my brother were talking about this. My brother's a huge car guy. We were talking about this. And I just got my Ferrari over 800. And me and Jay were talking about it. Just that phrase, I just got my Ferrari over 800. So ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:45:48 So ridiculous. Here's the thing. They're going to come out. Well, the TDF, they have a TDF version of mine. They'll only be 600. What's a TDF? It's like the souped up version of mine. It's the race version.
Starting point is 00:46:01 They only made 600 of them. And that comes stock with like 817 horsepower. But then Ferrari went, cool story. We're coming out with the 812 Superfast V12. TDF. Was it the same for Tour de France? But they can't call it the Tour de France. They just have to call it TDF because Tour de France, the fucking bike boys own it.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Did you see that shit where this guy had a Superfast and he's apparently a very famous designer and he put his sneakers on the roof of this dope fucking ferrari that he owns he owns this crazy green ferrari super fast yes yeah it's gorgeous and he put his sneakers which are green as well on the ferrari and ferrari sent him like a cease and desist and they threatened him this guy philip pleen lashes out a ferrari over cease and desist letter but like look at the photo he's wearing an alligator jacket yeah of course he is apparently i asked my wife and this guy's a fit look how dope that color is i'm not usually in
Starting point is 00:46:54 the a green car that lizard green fucking amazing porsche makes the gt3 in it but that's a like a metallic yeah it is that's a hot electric green See, there's any other pictures of his car. But look at that. He's got these dope sneakers, and they're sitting on his Ferrari. And Ferrari was angry. They were like, you're using our brand or something like that. Oh, because I'm trying to think, because he painted green. Then are those his shoes?
Starting point is 00:47:17 Then it's with the Ferrari. Look at this. Look at what they said. Ferrari's trademarks and model cars are associated in your pictures with a lifestyle totally inconsistent with Ferrari's brand perception in connection with performers making sexual innuendos and using Ferrari cars as props in a manner which is per se distasteful. This behavior tarnishes the reputation of Ferrari's brands and causes Ferrari further material damage. In fact, the undesirable connection between Ferrari's trademarks on the one hand and Philip Pline's line of shoes and the questionable manner in which they're promoted on the other hand is interfering negatively with the rights enjoyed by Ferrari's selected licenses, which are exclusively entitled to use Ferrari's trademarks to produce and promote line of shoes Ferrari-branded. That's nonsense.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's why I love Ferrari. Why? Don't they have Ferrari-branded shoes? Fuck yeah, they do. Yeah, that's why. Do they? They sell more merch than cars. They make their money off merch.
Starting point is 00:48:19 How about that? But this guy is a very successful designer. His stuff is very expensive and very well- That's why he got a Ferrari No you don't Get that shit out of here No Get that shit out of here
Starting point is 00:48:28 How about you leave it alone Ferrari, holler at your boy What? No, I'm just kidding, dude No, here's the thing He probably got allocated the superfast Because you know how a Ferrari works You can't just walk in the store and buy one
Starting point is 00:48:38 So he got allocated one So he probably owned other V12s It's a crazy He's owned Ferraris for 10 years, he said There you go So he gets allocated the new ones. So he probably had access to the TDF then he got a super fast
Starting point is 00:48:50 and then he painted it green like an asshole which is a cool color. Wait, why color green? Well, he might have had it painted. I don't know. I don't think Ferrari offers that green. What? No. No way. Really? No. He did that himself. That's why Ferrari's like, Jesus Christ, dude. Be cool. Really? Yeah. You don't think. That's why Ferrari's like, Jesus Christ, dude. Be cool. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You don't think Ferrari offers that color? I don't think so. I would doubt it. Have you ever seen another Ferrari? If they did, oh, man. I've never seen one of those. He probably paid such a premium for that color because they don't make that color. Well, the only one I've seen in the flesh is yours.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I've never seen one of those cars before. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've seen one of them at a dealership. Dude, I saw, there's only 700 of them in the States. I saw a gray, like that battleship gray. God, it made my dick hard. Certain cars do, man.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I like that. I want so many cars. I know. It's crazy, right? Yeah, man. It's a problem with cars. I'll tell you that I love, I absolutely love Ferrari. I love Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:49:45 There's nothing like a Porsche. In terms of driving? I've had all the cars. There's nothing as far as the driving experience better than a Porsche. Yeah. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I think I have to always have a Porsche. The reason why I still have that 2007 GT3 RS that Shark Works worked on. That's one of the greatest cars ever though. Every time I get in there,
Starting point is 00:50:04 I get happy. It just feels amazing. It's just That's one of the greatest cars ever, though. Every time I get in there, I get happy. It just feels amazing. It's just... And also... You can feel it. I want a goddamn manual transmission. Me too. That's what I want now.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Porsche is the last of the Mohicans. They still don't do it, though, for the GT3 RS, and they still don't do it for the GT2 RS. I wish they did. Get in the GT3 Touring. The GT3 and the GT3 Touring, they'll sell you with a manual transmission. Yeah, I want to get one of those. Dude, the new Corvette abandoned the manual.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I know, but they're fast as fuck. No, I agree. I mean, you drive a Tesla. What? But the Corvette, to me, it looks badass. They completely ripped off Ferrari. I mean, come on. It's a mid-engine car.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Mid-engine car. Yeah, but I have a 65 Corvette with a giant hearse shifter with a fucking cue ball. The cue ball shift, that's the real goddamn shifter. That's America. I know. Side pipes, bitch. I know. I don't want one of those Corvettes, though.
Starting point is 00:51:00 They look cool, but I don't want one. Dope, man. When the ZR1 comes out and it goes zero to 60 in three milliseconds. know it's not all about zero to 60 i'm not vin diesel i don't live my life one quarter mile at a time guess who else isn't vin diesel vin diesel yeah you right you right fucker wear sunglasses at night yeah he does yeah he does you know he's gonna he's quietly becoming a billionaire from the fast and furiousious franchise? Really? Because he owns it. Yeah. That's his?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, that's his. So like Universal, the rides and all that, he's quietly becoming a billionaire. He's probably in a castle somewhere doing Caligula shit. And fucking dudes. You think so? For sure. Really? You don't get those vibes from him?
Starting point is 00:51:39 I didn't even think. When he's in the wife beater, like barbecuing all the time? He's barbecuing? Yeah, in Fast and Furious. Why barbecue? I do too, but in a beater? I have to wear a wife beater. My wife yells at me.
Starting point is 00:51:51 She doesn't let me wear those. I can go shirtless. Rightfully so. Rightfully so. If I have a wife beater on, she'll start making fun of me. That's fair, man. It's so old school. Look at him.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Do you remember that video? What's he doing? Butt fucking? He's singing the Beyonce song. Oh, there's nothing better than this. That's fair, man. It's so old school. Look at him. Do you remember that video? What's he doing? Butt fucking? He's singing the Beyonce song. Oh, there's nothing better than this. Five years ago, went viral. Wait, what's going on with his pants? Why are they so low?
Starting point is 00:52:12 I'm not going to show up, but this went viral. This is necessary. You got to show Joe, though. Drunk in love. Yeah, he starts singing Beyonce songs. What is he doing? Yeah, this is the longest. Three minutes.
Starting point is 00:52:21 He made it himself. And we can't play this? Well, the song, we'll get it taken out. They can hear the audio, though. This is unnecessary. Just Three minutes. He made it himself. And we can't play this? Well, the song. We'll get it taken out. They can hear the audio, though. This is unnecessary. Just the dancing is unnecessary. But, dude, he's celebrating, like, his movie went, I don't know, Platinum or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So he does Drunk in Love. He does a cover of him singing. Okay, kill this before I throw up. Can you hear it? Listen, I'm on Team Rock. Dude, you do not live your life one quarter mile at a time if you're doing this, bro. I'm on Team to rock all day every day oh he's feeling himself in the rock don't get along they hate each other
Starting point is 00:52:51 i heard rock was a big diva on set rock is big diva that's what i heard from who people would you hear that are in the that were on the set just that you know the rock sometimes shows up late and there's trailers and he wanted the biggest trailer, and obviously Vin Diesel, you know, he's Mr. fucking Fast and Furious. Who knows who's right? Listen, he just did Beyonce cover, so I don't know. 16 rules. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Let's kill that. I'm also Team Rock here as well. 16 rules the cast of Fast and Furious have to follow on set. What? There's rules? Certain guys can't get hit a certain amount of times. They have to win fights in certain ways.
Starting point is 00:53:27 What? You know the rock? That's not a good version. Go back to that. Just go back to it. I was reading that. I know, but this isn't the best version.
Starting point is 00:53:34 They have to go to racing school in Las Vegas? That makes sense, though. That does make sense. Fast and Furious. Yeah. But you know the rock and Vin Diesel
Starting point is 00:53:40 couldn't be on set at the same time. They hate each other so bad. Really? They had to shoot different scenes and shoot it so it looked like someone was time. They hate each other so bad. Really? They had to shoot different scenes and shoot it so it looked like someone was there. They hate each other so much.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Didn't The Rock gotten a big thing with Tyrese too, right? Ah, Tyrese just flipping out because all he has is Fast and Furious. Really? So that when The Rock did a spinoff, he's like, how dare you? We're a family. Rock was like, no, we're not. They gave me a sp-off dumbass but remember when the rock was shitting on his music that was fantastic because rock is so positive
Starting point is 00:54:11 tyrese gibson reignites fast feud with duane johnson calls spin-off hobson shaw's not a win why is he crying he went crazy he went crazy for a shot this is all i've got and he asked will smith for money that's what he's mad've got? And he asked Will Smith for money. That's what he's mad about? Why did he ask Will Smith for money? I don't know. I think he fell on hard times. This is making me sad.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah. The video. Here's the thing. People lose their mind, man. The actors, really. They lose their mind. They were crazy. Because you're pretending to be someone else all the time.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yes. Except for The Rock. Not good for you. That guy, you know what he does? He just goes to the gym. The Rock? With two hours sleep. A lot of steroids.
Starting point is 00:54:43 You think? Joe. Do you really steroids You think? Joe Do you really? You think he's getting big like that From cocaine again? Cocaine again? He used to do cocaine? No I'm saying the John Jones thing
Starting point is 00:54:53 But I'm just saying Like anyone Me and Burt Kreisler Were talking about this I think Burt's gonna make a bit of it But When you see The Rock You know how it is
Starting point is 00:55:04 Working out Two hours of sleep. For sure, he's doing that stuff, man. He's grinding. He's on private jets. He is loaded on performance-enhancing drugs, dude. You think so? His body is pulsing, as your boy The Golden Snitch would say, with fucking- Boy, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I'm not sure. I don't know, bro. I don't know what you're saying. I don't know, bro. Jason Statham know bro I don't know what you're saying I don't know bro Jason Statham and The Rock Refuse to lose fights Against one another Jason Statham
Starting point is 00:55:30 Come on bro Jason settle down How about you How about you really fight And then that determines What happens Yeah You weigh 170 pounds
Starting point is 00:55:38 He used to be an Olympic swimmer You know that He's a bad motherfucker though Jason Statham But The Rock is an enormous human How are they the same height there? That doesn't make any sense. That is strange.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Is he on a box? Could be. That doesn't make any sense. Okay. Egocentric demands are nothing new. First of all, we don't know if this is true. And this is The Guardian, which is kind of a nonsense website. So let's just stop reading this.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's interesting, though. And you know it's also probably true. Members of the team behind the movie series told the Wall Street Journal paywall that actors including Jason Statham, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, and Vin Diesel have contracts demanding that limit the amount of punishment their characters take in fights. Because they don't want to look like bitches. Oh, good lord. You imagine telling your agent that?
Starting point is 00:56:19 Like, I'm down to do it, man. I read through the script. When he punches me in the face, I'm not going down, bro. I'm not doing it. You imagine doing that read through the script. When he punches me in the face, I'm not going down, bro. I'm not doing it. You imagine doing that? Oh, God. That's so crazy. Think if your group of friends were around you, like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:56:30 What's up, Jay? Diesel's sister reported to have been present on set asking if her brother was going to get his licks back in. Well, that could, she'd been joking around. My sister might say that, too, if she saw me in a movie, get my ass kicked. Like, you gonna go fuck him up? We'd be laughing together. I'd slap her in the face.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Can I get my licks back in? Well, you know it's fake, bitch. Like, what are you talking about? I'm also making a hundred million dollars. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:56:56 You'd whoop my ass every scene for that money. It's funny when a movie franchise just gets bananas huge like that. Just so big. And Vin Diesel's like, yeah, cool, man man But he's always doing a million things at once I've never seen Is he or is he just doing fast
Starting point is 00:57:11 What else is he doing bro Well he's got a television show No Yes he does Vin Diesel Yeah like a game show Fear factor type television show He is always doing something
Starting point is 00:57:24 He's also doing Jumanji. He did a new Jumanji one. Are you talking about The Rock? Oh, The Rock. You're talking about The Rock. What'd you say Vin Diesel? Vin Diesel. All he does is, Vin Diesel goes, I'm getting on Fast and Furious, I make a billion dollars,
Starting point is 00:57:34 suck my dick. Did I say Vin Diesel or The Rock? You said Vin Diesel. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm drunk. Unless he's fixing the rides at Universal Studios. The Rock is always doing a million different things at once. Always.
Starting point is 00:57:43 He's got ballers on HBO. So Rock is always doing a million different things at once. Always. He's got Ballers on HBO. He's got that TV show that he does, which is like some crazy fucking Fear Factor type deal. He's got Jumanji. He's always filming a million different shows at the same time. No, he's doing a thousand movies. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:56 How does he do that? Again, to my point, a lot of steroids, a lot of performance and drugs, and I'm all about it. I have no problem with this. But let's tell the kids like it is. Like, I thought Arnold was... I was like, man, hopefully I can get there one day if I keep being in the gym. I wish my dad would be like, uh-uh. It's never happening.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Not happening. We got to inject some shit in your ass. Forgot that Vin Diesel is in the Avengers. What? What? He's Groot. Oh. He's the voice of Groot.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Guardians of the Galaxy. Probably takes him 30 minutes. One word. Yeah. Probably takes him 30 minutes One word Probably takes him 30 minutes to do that Yeah You know what else
Starting point is 00:58:29 That vitamin drip That I did with Chappelle That opened my eyes I've never done one of those things You've never done IV IV vitamin drip I swear by him brother I swear by him
Starting point is 00:58:36 I did a bag and a half And I was ready to run through a wall I had three hours sleep They'll come to your house Yeah they'll come anywhere Yeah They came to our hotel room Yeah I get them at the crib all the time
Starting point is 00:58:44 Do you really My girl's pregnant again. We have another one coming in November. And for the nauseous, we get IVs. It works? Oh, dude. Dude. Night and day.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It's amazing for pumping you up. Not too tired. That time in Vegas, I had to get it. What was going on? You had a show there, and I showed up wasted, I think. Tight move. Like the New Year's Eve UFC. I had to wake up, and I had to get it I think. Tight enough. Like the New Year's Eve UFC. I had to wake up, and I had to get it.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Had to get it. You felt so much better. 20 minutes. 20 minutes. I was good to go. It was crazy. It's crazy. You know what's crazy to me is the UFC doesn't allow.
Starting point is 00:59:15 You feel so good. Well, it's because you can mask the use of performance-enhancing drugs. Fucking haters, bro. God. Speaking of performance-enhancing drugs, let's talk about the Cyborg situation. I knew you were going to go there. As soon as I said that, I was like, oh, he's going to bring up Cyborg. How about that?
Starting point is 00:59:31 See Dana go hard in the paint? You know what? I like when he goes hard in the paint. He's the only guy. Listen, say what you want about Dana. I do like it. We always say, can you imagine if another commissioner did this, another owner did this? But I do like when he does spit., because what he's saying is the truth.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Like sometimes he's on one, you're like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're screwing these guys over. Then sometimes like with the cyborg thing, when you send that to me, I'm like, I agree with him a hundred percent. Yeah. I love when he does that. Well, they fucked up and they really fucked up. They mean cyborg's team.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Cyborg's team. Whoever did it, whether it's her boyfriend or whoever it was that edited that video that lied and put words in his mouth is so fucking stupid you don't think that they're gonna do something about that you're out of your goddamn mind when they edited that video to say that whenever i'm talking public i'm not telling the truth which is not what he said at all and then they have it edit and cut right there well i'll tell you this right now dana's too smart let's say he would let's say he thinks that you think he would say that in a public forum to cyborg when they're face to face like that and you don't think you realize there's cameras around
Starting point is 01:00:35 no he's way too smart for that well so a that i'm like well he's not that dumb b that video was you can tell it's so full of shit same thing happened happened to me. Me and Nate Diaz had our confrontation. I didn't say any of that stuff. Someone made that all up. Well, what also they did was they were bringing back shit that happened five years ago. Cyborg was saying she wanted an apology from me. And I don't think it was that she wanted an apology from me. I think it was her boyfriend or someone on the team.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I apologized to her. Me and her, no one around, face to face. And I took a photo with her afterwards. There's a photo of me and her on my Instagram. You were just like, hey, me and my guys were goofing around. She started fighting in the UFC. She hadn't fought in the UFC before. And I said, hey, I'm sorry about the jokes. I promise no more jokes. And I said, I am actually a fan of yours and I want you to succeed in the UFC and I wish you the best of luck. I go, no hard feelings. She goes, no,
Starting point is 01:01:30 those jokes kind of hurt my feelings. And I said, I'm sorry. I go, I promise no more jokes. I gave her a hug and we took a picture together. And that was when was that? 2017. Here's the only time where I'm like, god damn, man. Her kid's getting bullied at school
Starting point is 01:01:45 Because of the comments I didn't know she had a kid How many kids does she have? She has one daughter I think In like 4th grade And she goes Because of the narrative that the UFC painted Right or wrong
Starting point is 01:01:55 I get it from the UFC side Doesn't mean it's right What narrative? That she's this heel She's this monster PEDs right? Yeah but that's because she tested positive. Once?
Starting point is 01:02:07 We don't talk about John Jones. He tested positive more than once. First of all, John Jones got tested positive for this tiny amount of something that probably came from a tainted supplement. She tested positive for a serious steroid and something that you, like a woman taking a steroid is different than a man taking a steroid. I'm with you. Take out female male, which is tough to do here. It is tough. But there's been people who have tested positive before where that's not their narrative, Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, but it is Brock Lesnar's narrative. It's also Alistair Overeem's narrative. Is it? Yes. Was it Vitor Belfort? Yes. TRT Vitor? The UFC doesn't tell you that, though.
Starting point is 01:02:43 But you and I do. The fans do. Kind of. They're not marketing the fact that Cyborg was taking steroids. No, they market her into this kind of heel role, though. Where if you know her, she's awesome. But no, they market her as a destroyer, which she is in her career. The scary destroyer, but also, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 In a good way. In a good way. Look, if you look at her fights, you look at the fight with, look, when it gets dark is when you go back to the non-testing days, like the Gina Carano fight, when she had veins coming out of her face and she looked like a fucking murderer. This is my argument for,
Starting point is 01:03:14 I don't mean to interrupt you, but Gina Carano, A, the hottest chica to ever fight in MMA, B, fought Cyborg when she was juiced to the gills, did pretty well. Did pretty well. Go back and watch. Mounted her at one point in time.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Shout out to Gina Carano. Eventually got beaten down. And there's a video, there's a picture, rather, of Cyborg holding Gina's face and punching her. And you see the black fingernails, and she's got this mean look on her face, and she's punching Gina in the face. It's like, whew. Bring that shit up, Jamie. You ever seen that picture? I've never seen it.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Dude, it's one of those pictures. It was the demise. No's like, bring that shit up, Jamie. You ever seen that picture? I've never seen it. Dude, it's one of those pictures. It was the demise. No, no, no. It's a standing photo of a cyborg punching. Oh,
Starting point is 01:03:52 is it that one? Yeah, right there. Right there. No, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:55 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:56 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:57 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:57 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:57 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:58 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:03:58 no, no, no, no, no, no, Jesus Christ. But look at the black fingernails.
Starting point is 01:04:02 How can she grab her face like the end puncher? Jesus Christ. Well, it's the end of the fight. I mean, she's already beaten her down. But, I mean, she's holding her face with those black fingernails and just crushing Gina's head. She beat the shit out of her. But Gina was a beast, man, and she hung in there as long as she could. But the consensus was that Cyborg was juiced up in that fight.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Well, in that one, right, you mark it as beauty and the beast. Right? That's just the way it is. Gina's a gorgeous individual. Cyborg, not so much when it comes to the feminine, like the looks department. So I get that mark at Beauty and the Beast. I had Kyla Harrison on. You know who that is?
Starting point is 01:04:39 The PFL. She's a two-time gold medalist, Judoko. It's Kayla, right? Kayla Harrison, yeah. Monster. she's a two-time uh gold medalist uh judoko kayla right kayla harrison yeah monster and uh she wants she's in the pfl and she's in the tournament there and she's uh she wants to fight cyborg yeah well there's a lot of people that are wanting to fight she definitely wants right undefeated gold medalist and i was talking to her about why does why does she think that kind of cyborg has gone down this road in her career and And then I pitched her on, you know, if I'm the UFC,
Starting point is 01:05:07 and this might be completely fucking wrong, I don't know, but this is how I would do it, and this is what they're doing is what I think. But if I'm the UFC, as nice as a person cyborg is, there's no other girl walking this planet that looks like cyborg, really. Because maybe PDs, to your point. Wait a minute, when you say maybe, like most likely. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's the problem. I'm trying to be cool. I'm trying to be nice. I know you're, to your point. Wait a minute. When you say maybe, like most likely. That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to be cool.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm trying to be nice. I know you're trying to be nice. There's a lot of girls that look like Paige Van Zandt. But that is the whole problem. There's a lot of girls like Paige Van Zandt or Ronda Rousey or Misha Tate. So they're going to push those girls more because that's what people can relate to more than a girl like Cyborg. And I don't think I'm saying anything no one has assumed already. And I like Cyborg, the nice person. And I don't think i'm saying anything no one has assumed already and this and i i like cyborg the nice person and i don't think cyborg is a bad person i think her management and the
Starting point is 01:05:51 way they've handled things have completely fucked her and i think her going to battle with the fc was the worst thing and it's not her i don't think it's her either and i think she is a nice person and every time i've ever interacted with her and And look, even that last fight. And that was the thing with the Spencer fight. Like the people were saying that, oh, you guys, it was biased commentary. No, it wasn't. That girl survived. That girl survived the onslaught. You're the greatest commentator of all time.
Starting point is 01:06:17 It was her eighth pro fight. But still. Or ninth pro fight. There was some 10, eight rounds. Cyborg beat the fuck out of her, dude. That fight wasn't close. No, no, no. It wasn't close.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But the narrative was how tough she was. I'm like, Cyborg's beating the rag doll on this girl. And she cut Cyborg's face wide open. With one elbow. Yes. Who gives a fuck? She got beat up the rest of the fight. There's 10, 8 rounds.
Starting point is 01:06:37 The idea was that she was going to run through that girl. And she didn't. That girl was tough as shit. It wasn't a competitive fight. Well, she doesn't have striking. No. She doesn't have power to was tough as shit. It wasn't a competitive fight. Well, she doesn't have striking that is on the level of, she doesn't have power to keep Cyborg off her. She just doesn't. Cyborg lit her up like a Christmas tree.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Though there was 10, 8 rounds, and I was like, oh, that fight's not even close. No, it's not close. I feel you guys, because it's the Jon Jones thing. When you go into a fight, it's like when Jon doesn't destroy someone, you're talking about the other guy. And with Cyborg, too, you expect just to murk this guy. Well, Tiago Santos was way closer.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I mean, that was a way closer fight. Tiago Santos was a one-point fight. He won some rounds. Well, it was a split decision. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I mean, one judge thought that Tiago won the fight.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I don't agree with that judge, but that's how close that fight was. There was no one that thought that Spencer won that fight after it was over. But it was amazing that she was able to endure the fucking beating that cyborg put on her it was tough girl not in the same league no but it was one of those fights where it really like no one's clamoring for that fight in the first place no who was asking for that fight not me other than her yeah i'm excited for the fight card next week in Anaheim because the cards, I don't know if you agree with this, the cards up to this point have been dog shit.
Starting point is 01:07:51 The main events have been good, but other than that, they've been dog shit. But I think they're doing it on purpose. There's so many fights. There's so many. The main events have been great. Other than that, they've been awful cards. So then Anaheim is going to be amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Who else fought this past weekend? I looked at the card. I went, I don't know what to tell you. There were some good fights. Jim Miller and Diego Sanchez. Jim Miller and Clay Guido was wild. Jim Miller and Clay Guido was fucking wild. That was wild.
Starting point is 01:08:18 But in terms of title implications, yeah, this is the big one this weekend. Because this weekend you got Yoel Romero versus Paulo Costa next weekend. Yoel Romero versus Paulo Costa next weekend. Yoel Romero versus Paulo Costa, which is best body contest of all time. First team all-diamonds.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Yeah. Amazing fight, too. I mean, Costa is just on a fucking rampage. I bet the going snitch is just like, fellas? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Yeah. Fellas? You know the deal. Yoel is the freak of all freaks. You know, I mean, he is the freak. Costa's no punk either
Starting point is 01:08:44 with that body. No, both of them. Both of them them are beasts that's an amazing fight yeah dc which to me is so interesting you know what it wasn't that interesting to me too i came on her a while a few months ago and you were talking about it and i'm like that is a really good fucking fight because if you go back and watch the first fight with steve and DC, DC wasn't dominating and then clipped him. You know, and Stipe's had time. Stipe's a motherfucker. Like, that's a really good fight, man. I don't like the long layoff for Stipe, but it's a good fight.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I don't like it. The reason why I like it is he was coming off of that fucking crazy war with Francis Ngannou where he took some big shots, particularly in the first round. How impressive is that now that we know what Francis is capable of? Yeah, Francis knocks everybody dead. And Stipe's the only guy not just to survive Francis but to beat him. He figured it out like a champion, got him to the ground,
Starting point is 01:09:34 neutralized all his weapons and beat him. I think Francis versus Stipe would be different this time. I think Francis has made leaps and bound improvements to his grappling and confidence. And he's not so rock star, reckless lifestyle and his ego's in check. You sit and talk to him like, oh fuck, this guy's
Starting point is 01:09:54 tuned in, man. Look, and he knows what's at stake now with Daniel. And Daniel knows too. Daniel's treating it like he's about to fight the greatest heavyweight of all time. That's his approach. I mean, that's what he said to me behind the scenes. But he just thinks he's better in every way.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And he thinks he's going to beat him again. And Stipe thinks he just got clipped with that one punch. If he doesn't get clipped with that one punch, he wins that fight. You know what? I'll take both arguments. Yeah. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Let's see what happens, man. Who the fuck knows. It's such a great fight. It's an amazing, amazing fight. And then you got Pettis versus Nate Diaz. That's at 170, right? Yeah, yeah, right. Let's see what happens, man. Who the fuck knows? It's such a great fight. It's an amazing, amazing fight. And then you got Pettis versus Nate Diaz. That's at 170, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Look, Nate doesn't want to cut any weight, and Pettis just knocked out Wonderboy, so he's like, fuck it, let's do this. Pettis' last fight was against Tony Ferguson, right? Wonderboy. Was it Wonderboy? Yeah, knocked out Wonderboy. Tony Ferguson was before that.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Tony Ferguson was at 55. That's right. And Pettis' first fight at 70. I mean, look, man, when you've been starving yourself, you get to 45 and 55, and then finally you fight at 170 and you knock Wonderboy out with a Superman punch, you've got to think, hey, maybe this is my weight class. And the only question with Nate Diaz, and I would assume Nate Diaz,
Starting point is 01:11:03 or I'm sorry, Anthony Pettis is the favorite because Nate Diaz ended up fighting a hot fucking second. I don't think he is the favorite. I bet Nate's the favorite. I bet Anthony Pettis is the favorite. Yeah, let's check. Let's check in terms of... You think Diaz would be the favorite in that?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah. I don't think so, dude. With the leg kicks from Anthony Pettis? Well, I think gambling. Oh, I think Pettis is the favorite. Okay, maybe you might think Pettis is the favorite in terms of the way you view the fight. Yeah. But when you think about favorites, favorites depend upon who's betting for who.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And I think there's going to be a shit ton of people betting on Nate Diaz. Nate Diaz has an army behind him. They put money down. He's a huge star. He's one of the least, he's like the worst promoted superstar. Him and his brother. They could have made giant stars. Minus 125.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Nate's even money and Pettis' is minus 130. As of today. We'll see what happens. It's just because of the layoff. Yeah, I agree. You're probably right. The money, because Nate Diaz is so famous, the money's going to go his way. What else is on the card?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Pull the rest of the card up so we can see the rest of the card. It's a great card, even on top of that. What else we got here? Boy, Derek Brunson's fighting. I mean, he gets a little dicey after those top three, but I feel you. But there's probably more in the ESPN card. Let's see what else you got with the ESPN card. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Oh, my boy, Corey Sandahagen. I'm telling you, man. Versus a Sun Tzu. That's a great – for him, he beats him. See, to me when i talk about guys who are gatekeepers they're i don't believe in the term gatekeeper we're like oh you get to top 10 the guys in the twilight of his career to me gatekeepers you beat him you get title shot yeah a sun sells that guy if you beat him you gotta fight one or the champ number one
Starting point is 01:12:40 or champ and that's where uh sanda hagen's right at. What did you think about Marlon Marais submitting a Sun Tzu? I mean, that was pretty crazy. Amazing. But then how much did you learn from Marlon Marais' last fight where he lost, where he kind of got broke, man? I wonder what was happening there. I wonder if it's stress of the fight, if that's what made him fatigued. Here's what you've got to pay attention to is when Mark Henry,
Starting point is 01:13:04 who's to me the best coach in mma him or for us when he's in the corner and he he must have seen in trainer and something because he goes think about your mom don't give up think about your fucking mom what took you to come here when a coach has to pull out that fucking yellow card after the first round he's thinking yeah that's why i'm like oh he's quit in practice before now mark text me if i'm wrong but i assume that he's seen some sort of quit in him in practice when you gotta go think about your mom after the first round you go zero to a hundred think about your mom's a rough that means he saw something that he's seen in practice before and went, oh, fuck, there it is. No, no, no, dude, dude, remember.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Think about your fucking mom, what it took to get here. And it still didn't work. The crazy thing is if you saw that first round, you thought Marlon Mraz is the best fighter in the world. Yeah. You're like, my God, Cejudo doesn't even belong in here. I thought he was so screwed. Yeah. I'm like, Cejudo's fucked.
Starting point is 01:14:03 How good is Cejudo? He's getting his legs destroyed. He had an injury. Unstoppable belief in himself. Unstoppable. He just believes in himself past reality. He's arguing right now that he's pound for pound best in the world because gold medalist, then two division
Starting point is 01:14:17 champion. Yeah. He has some work to do though. Mighty Mouse says, hold my little bear. Yeah. I beat a shitload of dudes. Hold my little bear? They're tiny. They they're tiny you know that's like one of those little like uh little fucking diet coke cans those little those little tiny baby ones you get when you go to a kid's party like yeah yeah that's uh it's not a good argument in terms of him being the best of all time but in terms of being one of the greatest combat sport athletes of all time, for sure. Olympic gold medalist and then UFC champion in two different weight classes.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I mean, fuck. But the thing about that Kayla Harrison, who's a two-time gold medalist, if she were able to get a championship or in PFL, come over to the UFC, two gold medals? That's nuts, dude. Sure. But she will not be fighting the same caliber of fighters that henry cejudo fought no that's that's just where the females are at right now that's just where they're at unless she fights valentina shevchenko or amanda nunez those she trains with amanda yeah amanda's gonna retire by the time she gets the ufc amanda nunez and valentina shevchenko are as good as any fucking male fighter on the planet Amanda Nunes and Valentina Shevchenko are as good as any fucking male fighter on the planet.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Especially Valentina. They're striking, for sure. Valentina is so technical. She's a sasson. She's so technical. What's Amanda Nunes do now? Because her cyborg was a fight. I still think they make the cyborg fight, by the way. They absolutely can make that cyborg fight.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Don't you think Dana's going to do it? Well, he said he would do it. He was like, I'll do it. Fucking call me. He said, I offered her a one-fight contract. If she wants to do it, she can do it. But she does not want to fight Amanda Nunes. Look, Dana's smart. All that shit that he said. Oh, he knows he's going to I'll do it. Fucking call me. He said, I offered her a one-fight contract. If she wants to do it, she can do it. But she does not want to fight Amanda Nunes. Look, Dana's smart.
Starting point is 01:15:47 All that shit that he said, he said, if she calls me up right now and she says she wants to fight Amanda Nunes, I'll make the fight. He goes, but she's not going to do it. So he said, if she calls me up, I will make the fight. Putting the ball in her court. Yes. The only reason it's not going to happen is because of you. Look, she's got gotta be devastated By that video
Starting point is 01:16:05 Whoever made that video I don't know who it is You don't know who it is But it wasn't her No She didn't make that stupid Fucking video No she can barely tweet
Starting point is 01:16:12 What are we talking about She doesn't tweet Her boyfriend tweets for her It's so exhausting It's just complaining Non-stop It's so obvious But it's so obvious
Starting point is 01:16:18 It's not her too It's so dumb And then she'll post on like Sunday like Hey everybody What's your favorite Ice cream flavor I just want to tweet her And go fuck you How about that My favorite flavors Eat shit It's so dumb. And then she'll post on Sunday like, Hey, everybody, what's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Starting point is 01:16:26 I just want to tweet her and go, Fuck you. How about that? My favorite flavors eat shit. Yeah, it's Anadrol 50. That's my favorite flavor. The whole thing is fucking ridiculous. You can't have your boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Stack the rocks on it. It's my favorite. Yeah, how about piss test that guy? Come out green. Pissing like a ninja turtle. It's like radiator fluid. The fuck is in you, bro? Lime green like the Ferrari?
Starting point is 01:16:55 Man, when we were kids, there was no 50-year-old action heroes. They didn't look like that. No. How the fuck do you look like that? Look at Sylvester Stallone these days, dude. I do a horrible Sylvester Stallone impression in my bed. What is he doing now? He's doing something. Isn't he rewriting
Starting point is 01:17:07 fucking, uh, isn't it like Rocky IX or some shit? I think he's doing a TV show with like Dolph Lundgren. They're doing a TV show. Dude, you gotta appreciate
Starting point is 01:17:14 the hustle, man. What is he, 70-something? He's a thousand years old and he's still swinging for the bleachers. He doesn't give a fuck. He's like an Italian sausage. His neck is gigantic.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Myself and Balboa Productions are so proud to announce this incredible new show called The International. It's going to be fantastic. Working with my own hard-punching friend, Dolph Fans. My hard-punching friend. Yes. His Instagram is Dolph Fans.
Starting point is 01:17:39 How weird. Come on, Dolph. Dolph underscore fans. They're working on a new TV series together, and we can't wait. Who said that? I can definitely wait. Phillip. Hard path for your boy here.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Hard path. The action stars are collaborating again. Dude, they just don't give it up, do they? I will say this, though. It's an animal. That motherfucker with the Rockies, even the newer ones, like Creed and stuff, he's doing well. Or did you see the escape with him and Arnold?
Starting point is 01:18:05 They're both like 100 years old. I didn't see that. Oh, it's fucking good. They both got beards. It's fucking good, man. Really? It's a good movie? Dude, they don't miss.
Starting point is 01:18:12 When they make movies, that's going to be terrible. But their movies are fucking... Why is that going to be terrible? Come on. Dolph Lundgren? They've done the third one, I think. Or maybe the fourth. Escape number five.
Starting point is 01:18:26 The extraction. 50 cents in this one extraction He's still jacked Look at his forearms Hey remember when he got Have you seen his Instagram He's shredded man He's fucking jacked I wish I could do an impression Go to his Instagram
Starting point is 01:18:42 Did you see when he got caught in Australia, though? Bam, son. Oh, his daughter is a smoke show. She's of age, too. Be cool. Jacked. Jacked. He's got these weird drawing lines on it, like someone accidentally drew the screenshot
Starting point is 01:18:57 thing on it and didn't take it off before they posted it. He can't see. He's 90, so he didn't know, bro. He probably posted himself and can't see what he wrote on it. Is that good? He probably't see. He's 90, so he didn't know, bro. He probably posted himself and can't see what he wrote on it. Is that good? He probably signed it. He thought he was autographing his own fucking Instagram. Take a look at this.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Is it good? Dude. Let me see some photos of him where he's jacked. Go to the one where he's walking an alligator at his daughter's birthday party. There it is. Far right. It's awkward. He's stiff.
Starting point is 01:19:28 You know how you said I was stiff? He's so stiff. I'm going to say it. Like physically stiff? You got a porcupine and an alligator at his house. Oh, yeah. He looks a little awkward moving. But you gotta think, all those years of lifting weights and he broke his neck when he was filming The Expendables. He's got bolts and shit in his neck.
Starting point is 01:19:56 You ever see it? Bro, he's got his neck fused. Like several of his discs blew out filming The Expendables. You're fucking right, Dade Dade, because you're 90 jumping on a plane and shit, dude. No a wall well i don't do it his own stunts that blow my asshole out yeah someone threw him into a wall fuck but there's never been a guy as old as him that literally pulls off doing like when he smashes somebody in a movie you're not going no way it's not like when bob barker beat up Adam Sandler And Happy Gilmore
Starting point is 01:20:25 The price is wrong bitch It's not like that It's like a guy fucking a guy up Like you buy it He's still jacked Like he'll still fuck people up Hell yeah he will No he's a legend man
Starting point is 01:20:40 I like his rest He's just doing the damn thing How long can he do it though? Will you buy it when he's 90? Is he still gonna be able to fuck people up when he's 90? Clint Eastwood's doing the damn thing That's true He owes me fucking 799 for renting the mule
Starting point is 01:20:55 That was a piece of shit Well he's 94 directing starring in his own movie It's not good It's tough It's just boring It's him driving down the highway That's it? That's it Wasn't he supposed to be a drug him driving down the highway that's it that's it wasn't he supposed to be a drug mule in that movie isn't that what the yeah the best part
Starting point is 01:21:09 is though he gets to the cartel and then they just have these smoke shows fuck his brains out fuck his brain yeah and he's like 90 really yeah that's pretty cool yeah he's like yeah well yeah he wrote and directed it it's really important that i fuck dude he's 90 at least right i think he's 92, right? He's killing it. And he still bangs out? Well, he wrote it in the script. He got divorced.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I want freedom. He has a bunch of kids, man. He's got a bunch of kids. I've had one of his sons on, Scott. I know. Nice guy. Looks like him, too. He does look like him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:41 You gotta imagine, though. Clint Eastwood's your dad. Not around a lot. Probably not teaching how to play catch and shit. He's starring in fucking whatever the movie he's him. Yeah. You got to imagine, though, Clint Eastwood's your dad. Not around a lot. Probably not teaching how to play catch and shit. Starting fucking whatever the movie he's doing. Yeah. That's a problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Yeah. I mean, when you're doing movies, too, you're off for months, months and months at a time. And I don't know. It's just me calculating my head. I know how busy I am. But then you look at the rock schedule. Yeah. Dude, when he...
Starting point is 01:22:03 Go home. Go home. Well, he probably brings his family with him Does he? I mean I would imagine Does he? I don't know I don't know
Starting point is 01:22:10 I don't know either How do you not? I mean you know You're the rock Yeah You're the rock I couldn't do it I would need my kids to be with me
Starting point is 01:22:18 Oh I would die If I'm on the road longer than four days I'd die I don't do well When I did the only two movies that I've ever done, the Kevin James movies, Here Comes the Boom, I brought my family with me. I'm like, I'm not doing this. How long was it?
Starting point is 01:22:34 Two weeks. Three weeks. Something like that. I can't do it, man. Too long. Yeah. That's my third whiskey, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 It's just the fucking sadness and the solemnness. Oh, dude. be by yourself? Face timing your family. It's like, oh. Oh, when my son goes, Daddy, where are you? Trying to describe it. He's like, what? I miss you.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Yeah, those little voices. I miss you so much. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Can't do it. I got to get back. That's why I only do weekends. When I go on the road, I do weekends.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah, you're at a level now where it's perfect, man. That's hashtag goals as a kid. Hashtag inspo is when you can do like one or two huge shows a month so you're not missing stuff at home. I was thinking about this. Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead. You were thinking about this? When my son starts playing sports, I don't want to miss a game.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Right. But when I'm on the road, Thursday, I'm going to have to figure it out. Hopefully, by the time he starts doing that, I'm at a level where I don't have to do a game Right But when I'm on the road Right Thursday I'm about to figure Hopefully by the time He starts doing that I'm at a level where I don't have to do So many shows every week You know
Starting point is 01:23:29 I don't know man Yeah Trying to figure it out I couldn't sleep The other night Thinking about it You know there's another thing too When you think about it
Starting point is 01:23:36 Like when do you retire Like As a comic Yeah do you want to be George Carlin To be Die in a hotel room somewhere You know better than me Joe
Starting point is 01:23:44 You tell me brother I don't know I'm thinking about it Because I'm older than you. You know better than me, Joe. You tell me, brother. I don't know. I'm thinking about it because I'm older than you, too. I'm going to be 52 in August. But you've never been better. I know. That's the problem. Experience is the name of the game.
Starting point is 01:23:54 You've never been better. It's experience, but it's also focus, discipline, enthusiasm. All those things haven't waned. But you're also not out of touch like you ever see some old comedians i don't say names but i seem to stand like oh bro you open up fucking twitter you're talking about fucking jersey shore right that show hasn't been relevant in seven years dumbass but he did or they're just not current you They have no idea. I think, look, stand-up comedy is a constant pursuit. I took a couple days off from this weekend.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I did this weekend with Chappelle. I took Sunday and Monday off. And then Tuesday, I got to get back on the horse again. And you got to really get back on the horse. You got to go over the notes. You can't half-ass it. You got to really prepare. And you've been doing it for how long? Forever. Forever. You got to go over the notes. You can't half-ass it. You got to really prepare. And you've been doing it for how long?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Forever. Forever. You got to come out guns blazing every time. And then, you know, obviously I'm gearing up for this weekend. I got a sold out show at an arena in Portland on Friday night. You're at arenas, bro. Arenas. I'm playing where basketball teams play.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I'm just talking shit. It's so cool is ian going with you yeah this one yeah and ally ally mccoskey she's great love ally yeah love ally she's a monster and she's like 22 i love watching her get better she's so smart she's a beast man she works hard she works hard she was with me last night at the improv she's with with me tonight at the Ice House. She grinds. Kids always grind. Dude, I had Derek Poston as my feature. And he's been with me for a while. He's a comedy star. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:25:32 He's great. He's from Memphis. And we did shows in Nashville. And his parents came to the show. A, his dad was white as fuck, so I was a little confused. And his mom was super dark. That's whatever. But I was just like, how's this happen?
Starting point is 01:25:44 I felt like a proud dad telling them how good he's doing i started tearing up like this guy man the dad was like all right man be cool he's got real potential i mean i'm talking killer joe there's there's guys friends of ours that are comedians who brought derrick on the road and he crushed so hard he they don't bring him anymore. When they told him, well, you're coming with me,
Starting point is 01:26:07 bro. That's how I met him. You're coming with me. That's hilarious. He's been doing comedy like three years. I think he's been doing a six or seven. Really? But I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:16 you know, no small amount of time for you to be scared of him. Yeah. He's a monster, man. Well, you know, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:26:23 We need more. You know, I'm, I'm a big encourager of young comedians we need more we need as many as we can you know it's really funny oh i had uh work with me at the improv the other night is jimmy o yang oh he's amazing hilarious oh i worked with him at the uh comedy store rather i saw him at the improv and then i had him come and do a set yeah i brought him up i went after him at the improv i was like he destroyed all seven people funny dude and then yeah he's amazing really good guy
Starting point is 01:26:50 and funny off stage just a fun dude he was so funny meaning we're at the improv and uh we're chilling the back talking and this like random asian dude comes up and goes are you chinese and he goes no i'm actually not and he goes like through this whole asian thing and the guy leaves fucking hate that man it was asian people dude it was so funny what nationality is jimmy i think he's korean i think jimmy don't kill me i think he's korean fuck this up oh i hope not i got a bunch of asian people that work for me i mess it up all the time do you think asian people do that with white people? Like are you Portuguese? I don't think so It's pretty obvious
Starting point is 01:27:28 Are you Polish? Pretty obvious Are you Polish? Are you Swedish? What are you? Never They just go oh you're white He's born in Hong Kong according to Wikipedia
Starting point is 01:27:36 Fuck me Fuck me It's tough dude It's tough I got a Filipino that works for me And I got a Korean Have you been watching those fucking protests on TV? Where at?
Starting point is 01:27:45 Hong Kong. Have you been watching that? Oh, no. They've been going nuts, dude. And they're making changes, aren't they? It's been going on forever. Yeah, it has been going on for a hot second. The streets are filled with people.
Starting point is 01:27:55 I've been avoiding the news. With the mass shootings, nothing gets me into a depression like mass shootings. No, it's a bummer, man. It's a bummer, and it's like, you know, I had Bernie Sanders on yesterday yesterday that's what scares me even more when you had him on you go burning what are you gonna do with this no answers no one has an answer no one but he's also saying smart as fuck banning assault rifles and all the nra people are like good luck with that see but here's my thing i know you got a big how you gonna take them away from people my God. We're looking at a photo of Hong Kong right now, and it is the most insane crowd of people that are filling the street.
Starting point is 01:28:31 It looks like a beach sand of people. It's like the Women's March times a million on steroids. Oh, that Women's March was weak as fuck. No, this is serious shit here. There's no pussy hats there. No. They're ready to kill. No, they're ready to eat this.
Starting point is 01:28:43 So what is the problem what there was anti-extradition bill that people are oh because yeah they'd extradite people to china to get prosecuted correct is that what it is yeah and they they don't want that shit anti-extra okay okay um process series of ongoing demonstrations in china in h Hong Kong rather, against the Fugitive Offenders and Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Legislation Amendment Bill proposed by the government of Hong Kong. This legislation was proposed by the Security Bureau in 2019 in response to a murder that occurred in Taiwan the previous year, which the suspect had fled to Hong Kong as a special administrative region hong kong is jurisdictionally distinct from mainland china and maintains a separate governing and legal system
Starting point is 01:29:32 under the one country two systems principle the regional government was unable to transfer the fugitive to taiwanese authorities citing a lack of formal extradition arrangements between the two jurisdictions hey hong k, pick your battles, bro. Yeah. If an act of the bill would allow local authorities to detain and extradite people who are wanted in countries or territories that Hong Kong does not have extradition agreements with, including mainland China. Well, the problem is that Hong Kong until a certain-
Starting point is 01:30:01 Communists? Yeah. Well, Hong Kong was controlled by Britain, right, until a certain amount Yeah, well, Hong Kong was controlled by Britain, right? Until a certain amount of time, and then they gave it back to China, and the people that live there are very unhappy with the shift from, I think it was Great Britain. God, they're pissed.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah. Talk about, man, you got the dedication. China is very, it's so rigid. I mean, they're so authoritarian and scary. You're lucky Cal's not here. You have a three-hour podcast. He went, did you say Hong Kong andong china let me break it down for you um here's my thing back to the the mass shootings and the gun control with the semi-automatic weapons if they said hey man if
Starting point is 01:30:35 we get rid of semi-automatic weapons there won't be any more mass shootings like this don't you think in general most people like yeah cool take them cool, take them in? Are they that fun? No. Are they that cool to shoot? People would not do that. Why do you need them? It doesn't matter whether you need them. It's so stupid, Joe. Listen, it is stupid. It's a real problem, man.
Starting point is 01:30:54 The problem is – Kids are dying left and right. Okay, but you're looking at it the wrong way. You've got to look at it – Yes, in terms of the way they're looking at it. They're not going to say, okay, you take them, because their idea is the government eventually wants all your guns. And they're going to start with assault weapons and then work their way to all weapons.
Starting point is 01:31:11 What if they just got that assault? You're looking at a worst case scenario. What if it's just assault because of the mass shootings? Because they don't think that they should be able to do that. They think that the government does not have the ability to take away your guns. But we have a problem. The problem is crazy people shooting people the problem is not automatic the problem is not guns shooting people right so
Starting point is 01:31:31 interesting you're going to go after those people that have the guns that have never done anything well they you're going to say well the second amendment protects my right to keep and bear arms yeah the amendment's written in the 1700s that hasn't changed true the thing is though is if you get hey we have a problem if we can get rid of these for now in the futures that hasn't changed true the thing is though is if you get hey we have a problem if we can get rid of these for now in the future we're good to go what i'm saying is the don't think most americans would be like yeah you're right man we don't need them that bad no chance that's that's mind-blowing to me it is but people went hey brendan ferraris are killing people left and fucking right dude you got to get off the road with this thing so many people are dying
Starting point is 01:32:04 like get rid of the fucking ferrari yeah but that's a simplistic perception of what's actually going on no one's going to think about it that way they're going to think i mean the people that don't have guns are going to think about it that way the people that are second amendment enthusiasts are going to say this is a slippery slope and if you give them any ground like joe biden has been saying we're going to take your assault weapons this is is one of the things that Joe Biden has said publicly. And this is one of the reasons why the people that are pro second amendment are never going to vote for him. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:30 They think that if you give in, in any way, shape or form, it's a slippery slope and they're going to take away pistols. I mean, California has already reduced the size of the magazines, but that actually, I think that was voted back.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Like, I think that was ruled to be unconstitutional they had like limited magazines like you only have a magazine like six rounds or 10 rounds or something like no it was 10 i think they're trying to make it lower but that that has been reversed i'm pretty sure here's my thing with the mental health everyone goes well america has a mental health problem there's a mental health problem all around the world we just have a gun problem that's not true the mental you think it's just here the mental health problem in the united states is extremely exacerbated by the use of psych drugs there's way way way more psych problems
Starting point is 01:33:14 too brother they don't have nearly as many prescribed drugs in europe as they do are you sure yes ssris i mean you talked to bernie no well i believe no i do know i do know i talked to psychologists. Yeah, you've probably done your research. It's this pharmaceutical lobby in this country. Look, obviously, not everybody on psych drugs is out murdering people. The problem is many, many, many layers, right? There's people that are abused.
Starting point is 01:33:37 There's people that grow up with a lot of violence. There's people that grow up and they're psychotic. They have psych drugs. The psych drugs are disassociated. Can't some people just be bad apples though like does it always have to be a mental illness like all these shooters just happen to have mental illness all of them well some just don't suck at life maybe some suck at life but almost all of them i mean in the high 90 percent are on psych medication oh yeah Yes. And coming from someone who was murdered by his wife when she was on an SSRI and on cocaine,
Starting point is 01:34:09 like people when they're on those drugs, it's a varying reaction. And suicidal thoughts are very common as well as homicidal thoughts, very common. And also the feeling that things aren't real. The people that I've talked to that were on SSRIs, they got off of them. One of the things that they all say is that nothing seemed real. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:28 No matter what you did. Like a video game. Like a simulation. Yes. And that's why they're doing it. Everything felt blank. And those kids are, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Everything felt flat. I think that's a big problem. Yeah. For sure, a crazy person with a semi-automatic weapon is a real problem. And you would want to take a semi-automatic weapon away from a crazy person. But the problem is if there's a guy like you who has a semi-automatic weapon, and you have a ranch somewhere, and you're just shooting coyotes and fucking metal targets that are out in the distance, and you don't harm anybody, and you're a good person, you are technically protected by the second amendment and why should you but okay but then what about your pistol should you take your pistol what about your shotgun what if you get a shotgun and you fucking keep reloading it just automatic but
Starting point is 01:35:14 again to the with shotgun they're not going to kill as many people depends on whether or not the people are armed if the people are not armed they're running around a mall you can kill a lot of fucking people with a shotgun that That's maybe with an automatic. Yes. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. I mean.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Here's what the scariest thing to me. You're one of the smartest people I know. Bertie Sanders is a smart motherfucker. He lives in this world. When you said, what are we going to do? His answer, I was like, that was as good as mine. Yeah. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:35:40 You're right. There's no one out there. That's what scared me. It's a good thing to be scared. Because there's no one out there who has a shining light. Like one answer, you're like, There's no one out there. That's what scared me. It's a good thing to be scared because there's no one out there who has a shining light. Like one answer, you're like, that's it. The smartest minds in the world. And I'm listening.
Starting point is 01:35:51 I'm like, well, I've thought of that. That's not going to work for me, dude. The Joe Biden answer is the dumbest answer. We're going to take away your guns. You're going to have a civil war. All guns? You can't take away people's guns. No, it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:36:00 He's saying take away assault guns and assault rifles. You're not going to do that. They're not going to give them up. It's not constitutional. It's going to be very difficult. Let's say they do guns and assault rifles. You're not going to do that. They're not going to give them up. It's not constitutional. It's going to be very difficult. Let's say they do do it, Joe. Let's say they do do it. There's too many out already, right?
Starting point is 01:36:12 There's too many on the market. There's 400 million guns in this country. And how many people? There's 300,000 people in this country. 300 million. There's 100 million more guns than there are people. Okay. So if you stop the manufacture of automatic guns right now,
Starting point is 01:36:26 there's still 100,000 more than people out there. And then you'd have to go get them. So you'd have to go door to door and search people's houses. We can't do that. That's what everyone's thinking will happen. That's not realistic. Like the purge or some shit. How else are you going to get those guns from people?
Starting point is 01:36:39 That's clearly not the answer, is it? No. That's never going to happen. No, it's not the answer. No, no one's going to give you those guns. So that's not the answer. I don't know what the answer i don't either but the crazy thing is if you look at the mass shootings across the world at the most in other countries see like two or three i know for us it's over 300 already this year i think it's 270 something and a mass shooting
Starting point is 01:36:57 is three or more yeah um the other thing to me that's interesting is i used to always think it was kids who on or you know are in their basement and they're on Reddit. They're these losers and they have nothing to live for. Probably true. Some of them. Most, nine out of ten. But then you got homeboy over in, where was it, Ohio, who had these chicks are coming out. He's banging a few girls.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Had a bunch of girls. They're like, man, we saw signs. He was always talking about mass shootings. He had a rape list. He had a fucking say something. He had a rape list in high school. Yeah, they all thought he was fucked up. They all thought he was really fucked up.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But he was also an Elizabeth Warren supporter who wrote posts about the need for gun control after different mass shootings. I mean, he was a real left-wing guy. And this is something that the media is ignoring because it doesn't fit the narrative. Because the narrative is they're all white, male wing you know and he was left wing he was left wing like yeah he's a leftist i mean he he wrote leftist he him as his pronouns on his his
Starting point is 01:37:55 page wow yeah i mean he was but it has nothing to do with him he's a psychopath they're saying the kid that they caught and god i don't want to talk about mass shootings buns me out when did after this we'll move on something else but um they're saying the kid that they caught in, God, I don't want to talk about mass shootings. Bunch me out. When did after this? We'll move on to something else. But they're saying the kid they caught in El Paso, the one who ended up dying, which he did die. But he was saying that,
Starting point is 01:38:16 shows no remorse. He's like, fuck yeah, I did it, man. And they're like, are you kidding me, dude? You killed kids. He's like, you're damn right. Shot a baby. How crazy is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:25 No. And he's going to get a cushy fucking room. He's living better than most of these fucking immigrants that come here and get detained. It's insane, man. They should definitely kill him. They should torture him, man. Just kill him. Just a quick.
Starting point is 01:38:44 It's not fair, man. but having him suffer doesn't help anybody it really doesn't but having him around doesn't help anybody either no you're not going to reform that here's the here's the good thing though in his manifesto he went hopefully someone gets me and shoots me so i don't have to go through the legal system that's way worse it'd be way better die real quick so at least he doesn't want this. That's a good thing. Why is it all white dudes? Isn't that weird? White people are crazy, bro. Charlemagne actually put that,
Starting point is 01:39:12 that it was all these white guys, that white guys are the biggest threat in terms of terrorism in America. And Instagram took his post down. How crazy is that? They're more of a threat than ISIS. But he had photos of all these different white guys who committed mass murders. And as a white guy i'm like yeah yeah me too i went no shit charlemagne
Starting point is 01:39:30 yeah you right but they took his post down how crazy is that then they put it back up they put it damn right they did charlemagne has some power man well he made his case and he's correct he had literal photographs of all the different people that were white that have committed mass murders just like just look like shit. Named the last time. The last time there was a black guy that committed a mass murder was those fucking guys in D.C. They were shooting people out of their car. Are you talking about the D.C. sniper?
Starting point is 01:39:54 Yeah. It was a son and a father, yeah? It was a guy and a younger guy. I don't think the younger guy was his son. That's a serial killer, though, yeah? Yes. Not so much a mask. He was doing one at a time.
Starting point is 01:40:07 Yeah, he wasn't killing three. Right. But that was scary because people were just at gas stations getting murked by this fucking sniper in his van. Well, no, he had a car. And he had a sniper's nest. He would shoot out of the trunk. Oh, that's right. So he had a hole in the trunk where he put the barrel out of the trunk.
Starting point is 01:40:22 That's scary, dude. Yeah. I mean, you would just see people in the distance and just unload. Dude, have you seen the documentary, like, Terrorist John, ISIS John? It's a documentary on HBO. Oh, no, I heard that's crazy. Jihadi John. Jihadi John.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah, I heard it's crazy. Good fucking memory. Yeah, I heard it's crazy. Did you see it? Oh, it's fucking good, dude. It's crazy. This was like a normal dude. It's crazy. This was like a normal dude.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Grew up in England. He was a refugee right from, I think, Syria or something like that, somewhere over in the Middle East. Comes to England, played soccer, football as they call it. Grew up normal. Had friends. Was just a normal dude and then just went freaking. What happened to him? They had these girls that went over from England too,
Starting point is 01:41:05 and they joined ISIS, and they're trying to get out, and now they can't. Yeah, because they got over, and then the homies would run a train on you at 1 p.m. every day. That's the way it goes. Yeah. You fucking morons. And you got to dress like Jabba the Hutt.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yeah. Dress like a ninja for the rest of your life. I wonder what they thought it was. How stupid do you have to be? You got to be pretty stupid. What the fuck were you thinking? You're going to dress like a ninja, and the homie's going to run a train every day. What do you think you're going to do?
Starting point is 01:41:30 Front and center with an automatic rifle firing at Americans, you morons? I wonder what they thought. I wonder if they thought they were fighting for good. Imagine if that's your daughter. Your daughter goes and joins ISIS. See, I was thinking about this. The Manson murders. Why I'm so into it, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I've got problems. But the Manson murders, those girls were like into it, I have no idea. I've got problems. But the Manson murders, those girls were like 17 and 19. Imagine when you were 17. Well, they were also homeless. So you're dealing with people that were probably abused. A little crazy. Crazy. Abused.
Starting point is 01:41:55 That was their family, right? This was like the first time they had ever had like real family. And they didn't know what exactly they were going to do until they got to the house. Then they're like, all right, I guess. One girl dips out. The other two are like, all right, let's do this. How crazy was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, their depiction of it?
Starting point is 01:42:09 That twist. You saw it moving, right? Loved it. I cannot get enough of the 60s. I want a 68 Porsche. Everything was great in that movie. Amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I mean, Brad Pitt was great in that movie. Leonardo DiCaprio was great in that movie. He should win an Oscar. They were both amazing. How about the way they depicted Bruce Lee? That was fucked up. Was it? Was it? Was it not? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:32 I'm sure Bruce Lee's daughter's going to jump all over us. The stuff I heard, Bruce Lee was a philosopher. Was he a fighter? Was he really that much of a badass? I don't know. I've heard he is. I've heard from people like, no,
Starting point is 01:42:45 he's never been really a lot of fights. I've heard, I've heard both. So what I thought was great is they put like Quentin Tarantino put his perspective on it where it's like, I've heard that narrative and I loved it because I've seen it both ways. Where he wasn't that much of a badass. Like he doesn't have a crazy record.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Yeah. But there wasn't just that. It was, he was a dummy in the record. Yeah, but it wasn't just that. He was a dummy in the movie. And the problem was, in real life, there's no evidence that he was ever, like, an egomaniac dummy. He was a very interesting guy and very insightful. And I believe he was, like, a philosopher, and he's brilliant. But when it comes to the actual toughness, we don't know. We don't.
Starting point is 01:43:23 We don't know for sure. But that's one you've heard that narrative before right what narrative that like like he's not an actual tough guy well what i had heard was that it at the time he was incredibly innovative in terms of martial arts but he didn't really fight and he had like a sparring match once at a tournament yeah and he had some street fights but he didn't you know he wasn't like john jones and then i've also heard that he was this badass and fought other dudes from dojos and he's amazing yeah i'm somewhere in the middle i went oh i bet he's a
Starting point is 01:43:55 bit makes a vault so what's not the problem though the problem is they made him look like a buffoon there's no evidence i don't have a problem it's a movie everyone's crying about it's a movie about a real person who has a real legacy and a bunch of come on joe it's a fucking quentin tarantino movie and the way that they i don't want to give spoil the ending but the ending too that's not real well that's true then they had a totally different ending like you're living to make believe everything no one's real in that except for like obviously the the ranch is real where they went charles manson who's barely in it the manson family yeah but everyone everyone's kind of dumb like even even leonardo
Starting point is 01:44:30 caprio his character is a bit of a i'm kidding he's a bit of a dumbass yeah but that real guy might have been a dumbass i mean we don't know but we do know we don't know that about bruce lee either yeah but there's a lot of evidence that bruce lee was this brilliant insightful guy and in that movie they made him a caricature of that and you have a problem with that i did i stood up i didn't like it i don't have a problem with it because it's not it's not a big laugh it was so good because i thought i thought bruce he's gonna beat the fuck out of brad pigg and then when you see that i went i went that twist is hilarious because i don't expect it. And I think of Bruce Lee as a badass, which he is.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Whether he's been in a million fights or not, what he's done for martial arts is unprecedented. It's amazing what he did. So that twist for me, that's what I want from the movie. What was the family's reaction? Oh, my God. The sisters. I mean, his daughter's pissed.
Starting point is 01:45:21 You'd be pissed. If that was my dad, like, fuck you. And that movie's so big. Like, fuck you guys. Because when's the last time Bruce Lee got brought up besides Jesse at Roots of Fight selling a Bruce Lee t-shirt? When's the last time he got brought the fuck up? The dude who played Bruce Lee was not quite shredded enough.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Yeah, he should have been more shredded. Yeah, he's just not quite shredded enough. See, I like the twist because A, it's not real. B, you thought Bruce Lee was going to beat the fuck out of Brad Pitt. I didn't. Oh, I did for sure. I was like, oh, he's about to get fucked up. I knew quite sure. See, I like the twist because A, it's not real. B, you thought Bruce Lee was going to beat the fuck out of Brad Pitt. Oh, I did for sure. I was like, oh, he's about to get fucked up. I knew Brad Pitt was going to fuck him up. And also, the way Bruce Lee doing that jumping flying kick, his signature kick, that's probably how it go down.
Starting point is 01:45:56 You think so? Yeah. What are you talking about? With a guy who's been in fights? Get the fuck out of here. I think Bruce Lee's philosophy in real fights, though, was that keeping things simple, like leg kicks and quick punches. You're living in reality, Joe. You're living in the legacy of Bruce Lee, which is probably true.
Starting point is 01:46:12 But in a Quentin Tarantino movie, that was fucking great, man. I thought that movie was brilliant. I thought the movie was brilliant. I did not like the Bruce Lee things because I thought it wasn't necessary. They made him look like a dork but everyone sucks his dick so to mix it up it's fantastic like bruce lee everyone you know he's the best and i agree he's the best so it's a movie that's supposed to be about a real guy that has a real legacy and they made him look like a buffoon. It's the movies, though. I know, but you're making the guy look like a fucking idiot. Yeah, but anyone who-
Starting point is 01:46:49 And he wasn't really an idiot. No, he wasn't an idiot at all. Not at all. He's a brilliant philosopher, and what he did for martial arts is amazing. But in the movie- That's what's great. That's what's great,
Starting point is 01:46:59 because we know he's great, and you assume he's going to beat up Brad Pitt. You're a weird fucking guy. I don't know why you think that's good. I like the twist. If you were he's gonna beat up Brad Pitt You're a weird fucking guy I don't know why you like I think that's good I like the twist Like if you were to beat Brad Pitt up I would've went
Starting point is 01:47:09 Alright well Yeah Moving on I didn't think that was gonna happen I thought Brad Pitt was gonna fuck him up I didn't Brad Pitt knew how to fight Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:17 Who's a bigger guy And he knew how to fight And the reality is A bigger guy Who knows how to fight Who really knows how to fight Is gonna fuck up a 130-pound Chinese guy. Oh, you're thinking about it too much, dude.
Starting point is 01:47:28 I do think about things too much. You thought of it way too much. That's what I do, though. Yeah, you do. You're like, yeah. Oh, I loved it. I like the twist. I love the twist.
Starting point is 01:47:35 His family was furious, right? You got anything on that? His daughter's pissed. She did a video. I was looking into just people talking about What really happened I guess Or This might come from a story From some
Starting point is 01:47:47 Oh there was a real interaction Between the two That's what I'm trying to figure out Dude I get pissed so hard Go ahead Let's wrap this up It's already 4.30 Is it?
Starting point is 01:47:54 Get the fuck out of here Good night everybody What's going on? T-Fat K Where's your How many days? Good night everybody I'm in Portland next week
Starting point is 01:48:02 With Derek Poston And Chappelle Lacey Portland Helium Thursday, Friday, And Chappelle Lacey Portland Helium Thursday, Friday, Saturday Chappelle Lacey's hilarious too Monsters dude Great guy It's been a good show
Starting point is 01:48:09 And then after that Did you see him do a backflip? Yes He's a male cheerleader Crazy cheerleading skills He's wider than you and me He's a gorilla Yeah
Starting point is 01:48:15 He's so powerful He's like Green Day He threw this girl up The girl weighed like 100 pounds Threw her up in the air Caught her on one hand And she's standing on his hand I'm like god damn that dude's strong.
Starting point is 01:48:26 However, we played basketball at my house, and he couldn't get through a game of 21. Love Chappelle, though. Why not? Not in shape for basketball, bro. Oh, you mean he exhausted? He was so tired. He was so tired.
Starting point is 01:48:36 He started Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah, I know. That's what he said. He said he loves it. Yeah. So I'm in Portland next week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Portland, Helium. Then after that, I'm in Houston, then Denver, September.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Get your tickets. Holotfatk.com. Yes, sir. Love you, man. Love you, too, brother. All right. Bye, everybody. See ya.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Bye, everybody. Bye, everybody. Bye, everybody.

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