The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #82 with Israel Adesanya

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

Joe sits down with UFC Middleweight Champion, Israel “The Last Stylebender” Adesanya.

Three, two, ladies and gentlemen, the champ is here. My man. Salute. Salute. Last time. L'chaim. L'chaim. Last time you were here, you were neither the interim nor the undisputed.

Now you got it all. I'm the double interim champ. You got it. Why say double? You keep saying that. Double interim. Double interim. I don't know.

Robert Whitaker's the champ. Yeah, he was. You knocked him out. He was the champ. You're the champ. Because when I was there, even my last fight, I feel like it's my first title defense, to be honest. Because I was waiting for something to change. I was waiting for that feeling that I had in Atlanta.

But it never came. And within three days, I was like, I felt like I just defended the belt. Because technically, I was the champ as well. I was the champ. And if he had beat me, he would have got one of those rubies you put on this. So I'm looking for my ruby as well. They get a ruby? Yeah, like that's the looking for my ruby as well they get a ruby yeah like that's the thing you don't get you know i used to get a new belt yeah you don't get a new

belt anymore so what they do is they you send this off this isn't actually my one my one i've sent it off this isn't yours yeah but you sent yours already i sent you take this plaque off this plaque on the side and then you send it off then they put a ruby and send it back to you they put a ruby in the plaque yeah so you collect like the infinity stones or whatever oh so I got the soul stone

oh yeah dude I used to not like this belt now I like it better it's grown yeah it took me like maybe two days after everyone complained about it

then I looked at it and when I first saw it I think it was at the PI and I was like you know what I fuck with it yeah for a while

I was like ah the old one was better now I'm like I you know what? I fuck with it. Yeah. For a while, I was like, ah, the old one was better. Now I'm like, I don't think so anymore. I like this one. Nostalgia. Nostalgia. Yeah. It gets you every time.

This one's cleaner. Yeah. It's just like sharp. More legible. The old one, it was cool and I still like it. I could buy one on the website, hopefully. Yeah, but those are light. Yeah.

But just for nostalgic purposes and just because I've been a fan. I should have got one of those. I came at the end of it. Colby's still walking around with one. Man, don't get attached to these things, man. I only – I flex with them for a little bit, you know, because even my last – after Atlanta, my coach, he was kind of worried because I was going to Nigeria.

I was going to all these shows. I got to, like, show it off, flex it. But he's my coach. So Eugene's like, man, you know know don't think you're the champ yet but i'm like yeah i'm the champ but then there was a point when we moved gyms and i just kind of all right put in this box with everything else and then he kind of posted about it because he saw like okay the switch happened like it's game time now so same thing i'm doing my tour right now victory tour walk around do all this shit but then even being at the fights last week i got fomo

because you know after the fights i you know I got FOMO. Because, you know, after the fights, I, you know, I see what's up, people talking about me, right, right, right.

So I'm like, man, I got to get back to the gym. So when I get back, I don't even look at this thing. That's interesting. So you're aware that you could get too into the moment. Yeah.

You can get too wrapped up in the fact that you won the title, and maybe slack off a little. 100%. Or maybe take yourself too seriously. Yeah. That's interesting. No, because I mean, a lot of people, this is their goal they're like i want to become the ufc champion they get it done and then what happens after in the next fight they lose it or they lose sight track of what really matters so some guys like kobe for example he's walking around with the belt when usman whips his ass or if usman whips his ass then what's going to happen you're going to walk around with that belt? How are you going to feel?

Well, the Colby thing is interesting. And I don't know how much Colby wants people talking about this, but I'm going to spill it as much as I can. That's an act, man. It's a strong act that he put on when they were ready to cut him. They were ready to cut. You talk to that guy in real life. He's very respectful. Jeff's been around

him. Jeff's been and said he's the nicest guy. He's a nice guy man He's playing a pro wrestling heel Amen And he's got the whole world Worked up It sells It sells

And here's the thing though This is where it's interesting It tricks people Because he seems like a goof He wears this stupid Fucking cheap blue suit He wears that MAGA hat Does that smile

He's got the old belt Yeah You know it's not a legit belt Right But he did win the interim title And they took it from him For no reason It doesn't make any sense

So there's this thing about him Where people somehow Or another think Like maybe he's illegitimate Maybe he's not real Then he Fucks Robbie Lawler up Yeah

He can work And you go Oh Jesus This guy doesn't get tired He can strike His wrestling's on point His fucking cardio's off the chart Yeah

He's tough as nails. I was impressed on the inside. He's legit. Especially when he put Robbie against the fence. He was right there, slipping and ripping. Oh, yeah. Some things, you know, everyone has holes in their game. I have holes in my game.

But he was really impressive. The way he was right there in his face against Robbie Lawler. He's not an elite striker in the sense of, like, he's a guy who will slip and then blast someone unconscious with one shot. He's a volume guy. He's tough. He's throwing 60%, 50%, 60%. Just on you, on you, on you. That's it.

The DS style. Yep. Never let you rest. Never let you rest. And Robbie in that fight. And Robbie's a fucking all-time great welterweight champion. I mean, he was a legit top of the food chain motherfucker. And he was looking for those openings that were never there.

He was always looking for Colby to slow down. Colby never slowed down. He was waiting. You would see him just waiting, waiting, and he was just buying his time, buying his time. Looking to explode. Okay, fuck, fuck. Here it is. Here it is.

And there's ways to do that. I did it against Whitaker as well. You see it. Excuse me. I always got a burp. There's times when he'll like, I'll put a clip of this. It's like a simple one, shifting, real simple, subtle thing. Just move two step, one, two.

That's it. I can see it when he'll like bounce, bounce. All right, I'm ready to go. You shift, you disrupt the pattern. Okay, reset, reset. About to attack. Wonder Boy did it to Luque the past weekend. Whenever he was bouncing, he's going to bounce, bounce, bounce and then wonder boy shifts so he was doing it with the

offense bounce bounce bounce attack yeah so he was just it's all about rhythm yes well you have something that wonder boy has that a few other people have in that you're a specialist in that being a specialist and obviously you have a full game you there's no way you get to where you are without a full game but you are an elite striker thank you and with that that's that's a giant advantage because on the feet you are a step ahead of everybody every fight starts standing on the feet you see it with Whitaker because Whitaker's a great striker he's a tough guy but he had holes in his game that maybe he didn't even know he had yeah but you you could see what it was i got in his head and everyone like when i can see this kind of stuff man before the press before the fight the press conference when he was talking and acting all

unbothered and stuff like that and i was like what he's acting out of character people he put this meme up right and then people thought i was affected by the meme but all that showed me was like you've never talked shit or poked fun at anyone you're fighting, but somehow suddenly you're poking fun at me. That's showing your first card, showing your first hand. And a lot of things he's did throughout the backtracking and whatnot. I was like,

you're showing me your hand. You're acting out of character. Even my coach said the same thing. And I said, just do what got you to the dance. Don't try and talk shit with a guy who knows how to talk shit. I know he knows How to talk shit With his friends

And shit like that But not with me The internet kid Is different Don't make memes against me I'm the meme majesty But like yeah And then when he came

To the cage You saw me when I walked up I stomped the yard Stomped the yard And I entered the cage And when he came in I could feel it He was like

Let's fucking go You know beating the chest The thing he did And he took about A minute and a bit Before he looked me in the eyes And I was looking at him The whole time

And he Like a cat You corner Even a chicken Get one of your chickens Corner it like a rooster It's dangerous When you corner

Any kind of beast They'll attack you At any point So I could see him Pacing back and forth Like a caged animal And the whole time like he was the hunter he was the hunted and i was the i was i was the hunter so i was watching him and i could

feel it like you're not really about this and he's trying to hype himself let's fucking go and i could just smell that and when i went in my stance i said whoop whoop like this is something i was doing during sparring like during my my training camp so i was just triggering this this memory like muscle memory in my head. And I was just having fun. There's a point I looked at him. I kind of smiled like, fuck you, I got this. And I just knew from that point, man, I was on it.

And the first round, I thought I lost the first round without the knockdown. Just like I let him have it. But then I watched it back. I threw less strikes. I landed more. He threw more strikes and landed less. All I was doing was just, and me and Eugene talked about this, like, let the first round, the first half of the fight, let's see what he does. Just get all his attacks.

Make him show his hand. Make him draw the attacks out of him. And I did that. And after I watched it again, I was like, yeah, without the knockdown, I still had the round. It was a brilliant performance. And the knockdown at the end of the first was a brilliant performance and the the knockdown at the end of the first round was essentially the end of the fight yeah he was fucked up it was there was a bad knockdown you could see when he went back to his corner there's there's a moment where

you see his eyes are just not quite there yeah like after the even before the second round he stood up and when kelvin rocked me after i got rocked my first time being rocked in the ufc in the second round i was before the second round I was like, all right, let's go. Let's step it up. He was looking at the screen. Robert was looking at the screen like, what hit me? What hit me? And I was like, hey, hey, that's in the past.

That's done. Focus on me right now anyway. I was like, all right, then. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. When it was over, when they stopped the fight, you raised your hand, what's that feeling like, knowing that you're the undisputed champ?

It felt like just my title defense, honestly. Really? Atlanta. Atlanta was the one where they put my hand up, and I felt like, yes. Why Atlanta? Why that? Because the fight was so hard? Yeah, I think because of the way the fight went, the back and forth,

and then me, that fifth round. I found out who I was after that fifth round. I found out the depths I'm willing to go. So when they put my hand up, and you're beat up and all that kind of stuff. And also, I never had a belt before, so I've never had it wrapped around my waist as I visualized it. So once that happened, boom, I felt like, yes. And also, I was like, please, judges, don't screw me over. Don't fuck me over on this man and i knew i had it but you know you never know exactly bruh dude look at the darren till gaston fight so when they put my hand up i was like yes but

then this time they put my hand up i was like all right what's the end thing is i my brain wants to move forward because i did it in kickboxing because i was undefeated for so long so it was always like all right cool what's next i'll. So it was always like, all right, cool. What's next? I'll watch the fight maybe once, study it. All right, what's next? But now I have to like chill, relax, look at the tape, look at what you've done, and then soak it in, smell the roses for a little bit, and then move on. Yeah.

Because once I had my first loss, I took winning for granted because it was just a habit. I was always winning, always winning, always winning. So now I have to like, when you win, when you do something amazing, like I did in Atlanta, like I did in Melbourne, just chill, smell the roses and then move forward. When you entered the fifth round against Kelvin, you said, I'm ready to die. I looked at him and I remember, I call it ese diablo He was looking at me And he just had this like look And he's just swinging his hands

And I said You're not gonna beat me I'm prepared to die And I meant that man I swear to God on my life I meant that I'm even getting goosebumps See that

I'm getting goosebumps too Like I meant that shit Cause I was like look And I signed my death warrant Right there I was like look If this is how I die This is how I die

But You see me I was trying to get him. I was trying to kill him. I knew because for me, if I'm ready to die, I'm ready to kill. You have to be willing to give something up as well. So in that fifth round when I was throwing those shots, when I was, I think I dropped him like four times or something crazy. Like even the last one, I went from heaven, hit him. I wish I didn't like follow and like roll over on him because I probably could have got him out with like two seconds left

But I was trying to get him out of there man And it's sad to say but I was ready if he had taken it to me and he if he had done that to me And I didn't wake up So be it Well, that was evident in the way you fought because you didn't you didn't you know, it was a close fight But it looked like you were ahead on the judges, but you didn't take, I mean, any break at all. You just, you threw yourself into the fire instead of being cautious, you know, and I told that to Dana, you know, Dana and I were talking about that fight and he was, he was talking about how hyped he is for Whitaker. They tried to get me to fly to Australia.

I love you, bro, but I'm not doing that. Don't do it. to get me to fly to australia i love you bro but i'm not doing that don't do it even me try like right now i've canceled a lot of my trips because also you know my knee but also just fomo being away from the gym like you feel it after a while at this level like after the fight because you can see the target on your back people smiling your face you know oh yeah and then yeah i know what's up i'm not stupid i've seen a lot of people in this game rise and fall 100 all the time so i want to get back to doing what I do best. Dana and I have these conversations sometimes.

We get hyped up and talk on the phone. And we were talking about that fight. And I said, do you know what he said? You literally said it. Yeah, I have it on my, it's a highlight I made by myself. And then I had it in the captions. And I was like, you know, you're going to beat me. I'm ready to die.

I'm prepared to die. That's some movie type shit. That is movie type shit, especially when, you're not, you're going to beat me. I'm ready to die. I'm prepared to die. That's a movie type shit. That is movie type shit, especially when you win. Yeah. A hundred percent. And Dana just went, holy shit.

I said, dude, watch it. Just watch it again. He's saying it. I mouth it. Yeah. With my big lip.

That was a hell of a fight, man. That was a hell of a fight. Yeah. I don't want to have much, much like those, but you have to get that. Cause after that fight,

even like probably about two minutes after I was like, I can go another two rounds. I felt it. I was like, this is like the third wind. Wow. Oh, shit. And I'm not just saying this to gas you up. I'm saying like, I was like, I can go another two rounds. And you can see it.

Like, I felt fresh, man. I've never, this is my, that was my second, fifth, five-round fight. And this is my, that was my second, fifth, five-round fight. When I fought this time last year against, what's his name, on July last year, Brad Tavares, fifth round, I was just having fun. I didn't even like, I wouldn't say I took my foot off the pedal, but I was having fun with it. And this fight, like I said, you know, fifth round, I was ready.

And I said that for the Romero fight and what's his name, Whitaker fight. I said, look, look how he looked in the fifth round. He's got gas. Don't get me wrong. He can crack, same thing with Romero. But Romero and him, they don't have the same kind of spice as I do. When I'm in the trenches, when it's time to go, I can go because I do it in the gym every day. You wanted Romero for your next fight.

Is there resistance about that? I'm a charitable guy sometimes, man. I'm a charitable guy. He's coming off three out of four losses, three in a row. Yeah, but all of those could have been his. Yeah, I know. But also the people, the people, the casuals, they think this is the guy. Well, first of all, I think Brunson was the guy.

And then Gaslam was the guy. And then Whitaker is the guy. So they think this is the guy to beat me. So I'm like, all right, this is my charity work for the year. Well, he's an interesting fight for anybody. Yeah, 100%. Because he's a freak athlete i mean that that you look up freak in the dictionary you see a picture of yoel romero

flying through the air hitting chris wyman with a knee yeah i mean he's just a freak i remember his first fight i saw him he did the same thing to this black guy bald black guy flying knee boom and just kind of starched him just ran at him but his his level this is what this is what rises me to the occasion. This is what challenges me. Because a guy like that, like you say, he's a beast. Same thing with Robert. He's a beast. But there's levels to this.

And if you can make that look easy, it just makes you look like your status. Legendary. All that shit. That's what you want. Yeah. So you want to look easy. This is nice, but it just looks good. You know what I'm saying?

But it's all about the challenges. Taking out Robert Whittaker in the second round in his home country. Doing that to your Romero, maybe not in Cuba. I don't know what the situation is like there. But in Vegas, in a big arena, T-Mobile arena, that would be fucking dope. Yeah. But Dana said he's got to get a win first. The thing is they don't know how to sell it to the people.

And I'm like, fuck it, let's do it anyway. And I've said, and even his manager at the fights, for whatever reason, while I was walking, was like, hey, Israel, we signed the contract. And I was like, I didn't know who it was. And he was like, hey, we signed the contract. Just tell Dana. I was like, okay. Had my drink in my hand. I kept on walking.

Like, cool story, bro. We signed the contract. What the fuck? Dana said there's no There's no deal He was trying to say You know it's the hype And then like

Someone might They sent me this other video Of him in the gym Saying Israel Why you backing out Why you backing out You know Just tell Dana the fucking day

I'm like I love you You don't love me Israel I love you You can love me all you want You don't love me But I'm saying like I want to do the fight.

I said, look, this is the guy, right? This is the guy. He's going to take me down and beat the fuck out of me. Okay. No one's been able to do that yet. So let's see if this guy can do it. Or let's see if I can take him down. Well, the thing is, too, you have to get him now.

Because he's 41 now, I think. 40, 41. He's old. And that's Cuban years. And that's the thing. When I beat him as well, that's what they're going to say. Oh, you beat a 43-year-old. He's still Yeah And that's Cuban years That's what they're gonna say Oh you know You beat a

He's still a beast I keep telling people as well When he fought Robert Whitaker They didn't have that narrative No I think he beat Whitaker I think the second time He beat Whitaker

Look how many times He dropped him man He hurt him bad And if you look at those 10-8 rules You know the new rules He won Yeah I agree

If you look at You judge it by the new Judging system He won I thought he won period I just thought he won. Yeah, I agree. If you look at, you judge it by the new judging system, he won. I thought he won, period. I just thought he won. Yeah. I mean, and Whitaker's a fucking animal, man.

He hung in there with that guy blasting him on the chin, but he hurt him, and he hurt him bad several times. But the Polo Costa fight. Oh, my guy. That's my guy. That's your boy. My favorite friend. Living la vida, Costa.

Let's go. I felt like that fight was legit. Either one could have got that title. I think I agreed with it when Costa won. I said, okay, I could see that. But if they gave it to Romero, I would be like, well, I could see that too. I think Costa won that fight. I'll give Costa.

Like I said, he just stole it. Just stole it. Yeah, I think that's the way to look at it. Just stole it. When he dropped him in the first round, that really solidified it. And Romero was trying His best to come back But just a step behind

In my eyes anyway But like you said Hey roll the dice Sometimes The thing that's shocking About Romero Is how well he takes a shot There's a picture of Costa

Kicking him in the head That I put on Instagram Where it looks like His soul is leaving his body Like his eyes are rolling Back in his head That shin is Wrapping around his head. That shin is wrapping around his head. His whole head is distorted.

I think it's the traps. And he didn't flinch. It might be, right? It's all those traps. Yeah, it just holds his head in place, holds his brain in place. Like his stem just doesn't move. Well, you know, he had a pretty severe neck injury. If you look at the back of his neck, he's got a giant scar up his neck.

For real? He had his discs fused. Look at that picture. Damn. What in the fuck, dude? That distorted. That sent his face Into the fucking black hole

Of another universe Shit I mean that is Full impact That's You can turn the hip on that Yes It's all in

Robert did one on him as well But this is a lot cleaner Yeah A lot nicer God damn I mean he's He's taking giant shots I think Brunson hit him

With a high head kick as well Yeah Wrapped around the neck Nothing I think his neck Is like one with a high head kick as well. Yeah. Wrapped around the neck. Nothing. I think his neck is like one solid piece. Yeah. It just goes right.

I don't know what the fuck they did in Cuba to his neck when they did that operation on him. But he's all fused up. He won't cut his stiff. Does he? I've seen him around. Especially when he's not cutting weight. He's tight. He's a heavy boy.

He's huge. But you know he can move. For 43, he can move. He's real flexible boy. He's huge. But you know he can move. For 43, he can move. He's real flexible. I've seen. Very flexible. I've seen him doing the splits when he was doing that dance on one clip. Did that Cuban Olympic program is no joke.

I mean, when he described it, he came on with Joey Diaz. Did you watch that one? I saw bits of it. Yeah, bits of it. It was amazing because Joey was translating from Cuban to English, and they were talking about the program. They just train them, and they put them in this situation where if you win, you get more food, and you get a better place to stay. And if you lose, you get two meals a day if you lose, you get three meals a day if you win.

And these guys, they're competing against the best in the world. And it's just every day is battle, battle. He's like, everybody I'm with wants to kill me. And you become a machine you become a machine it's just like you know and you see the dude first of all when you're sitting across from you like okay with you i know you're heavier than 185 pounds but it's feasible what do you like what do you walk around at like right now i guess 203 yeah that's feasible yo well looks like america man America man America you gotta realize man

The food Oh my god Like I forget every time You gotta order small Cause you order nachos Like large They come in in a platter Yeah people like to get fat

Over here We like everything big Luckily metabolism for me You're lucky Yeah We like everything big over here Everything outrageous I've noticed

This is an outrageous country Exhibit A Yeah Exhibit A Everything big over here. Everything outrageous. This is an outrageous country. Exhibit A. Yeah, Exhibit A, the blowtorch. You were saying even drinks. They pour bigger drinks over here. I'm surprised. I think it's part of the culture as well.

You order, you say a double, they're like, no, it comes in a double. I'm like, oh, double, double? And then literally you have to ask for more Coke or more Fanta Or whatever Just some water at the end Yeah The ice helps though man Do you like New Zealand? Do you enjoy living there? I love New Zealand man

Like there was a time From I think it was Going into the new years Of 2011 I was driving down From Auckland to Whanganui And I was just going through

By myself In my Old car Chewing Rapping Singing Just having fun And I was just looking at the landscape.

And that was the moment I decided that this is where I'm going to stay. This is the country I'm going to live in. Because I always had this idea that I'm going to go to Canada or America eventually. But also because my gym's over there. My team's over there. Eugene's over there. My family. I've made friends there.

I've grown up there. It's my other country. So I love it over there. I love the vibe as well. It's a beautiful country. You haven't been there. I haven't been. I want to go. I saw Chad Mendes went through and got a big red. Yeah, you know, so I love it over there. I love the vibe as well. It's a beautiful car. You haven't been there. I haven't been. I want to go.

I saw Chad Mendes went through and got a big red. Yeah, you go out there, you can catch something, man. Like, that's like a 13-pointer I counted before. Yeah, you can get some shit. Yeah, they have giant stags over there. I just imagine, like, that with something that's 800 pounds behind it. Yeah. Or what is that, 1,000 pounds, something crazy?

Yeah, that one that I have out in the front was over 1,000 pounds. Shit. The one when you walk in. Yeah. It was huge huge i've seen some next to cars as well on youtube you just kind of just get some perspective yeah yeah fuck have you eaten any of that see i told you the story that's made what was the place costco i asked her i was gonna go to utah not utah i was gonna go um to alex volkanovsky's fight so i asked her where can i go get a chili bin and i went went to Costco while they were cleaning out the Airbnb. And I also had some Nigerian food

I ordered as well from Texas. So when I got back, raxed everything. And I was like, fuck. And then you text me how to cook it and everything.

And my coach, Eugene, because I really wanted to, he's a hunter, avid hunter. Like after fights, first place he goes, in the bush. Because he wants to get away

from all this. So I was like, I got to share this with him. And then yeah, they raxed it, man. I'm sure they kept it. They threw goes in the bush because he wants to get away from all this so i was like i gotta share this with him and then yeah they were asking me i'm sure they kept it they threw it in the bin i'm sure they kept it but i hope they enjoyed it yeah yeah but i gotta try some elk one day definitely i will anytime man anytime you're around here we want to set up a kitchen in here in the studio this is like the new fantasy factory you know like actually you walk around i'm like man i need one of these you do one day yeah yeah have a gym and right next to the gym a fun house yeah yeah you know it's it's good to have everything where i could do it all in one place too because me i just don't

have any time yeah so you need everything right yeah it helps i can come in here two hours before a show get a full workout in shower everything even sauna boom you know get it all done in one spot if you got a kitchen definitely i could have i could have made me a sandwich yeah man well we got a little baby kitchen but we got it we got to set up a grill in here um what i was getting about new zealand is the beauty man like there's something i think that like when people think about places and places to live you know you think oh it's convenient this is an easy commute this is you know it's a nice apartment or it's a nice house whatever it is but there's something about natural beauty and it doesn't really get much beautiful more beautiful than new zealand and the south island as well like the north island school

there's some spots there's a lot of places like for me i travel all around the world but whenever like i fly in and i see the sky tower and you can see the grant like the landscape of the place it's beautiful and i feel like like can see the landscape of the place. It's beautiful. And I feel like Marshall when he sees the hills and he's about to go for a hike. I'm just like, yes, almost home, almost home. But it's such a beautiful place. Queenstown, the South Island, the snow there. I haven't been, but I've seen everyone posting about it.

But one day I'm going to go. There's snow in New Zealand? Fuck yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Mount Ropehu, that's where I've been Snowing Snowboarding Years ago Wow South Island I've been to years ago

When I was younger Like 12 But Definitely as an adult I gotta go It's different when you go With your parents Than when you go in as an adult

So I gotta go out there man It's fucking beautiful It's a crazy place When it comes to wildlife Because they brought it all From Europe Yeah they did Even like

I'm surprised In Auckland There's an island called Waiheke Island It's Probably about a 20 minute F ferry ride from the city. And there's wallabies on there. I had no idea.

And apparently, they're an invasive species because a guy brought them from Australia. But then, luckily, they're kept on the island now. But I've heard rumors now they've kind of found their way. Because some crazy fuck decided, I'm going to keep this. Of course. And they found their way to Rotorua, the Redwoods, and all that kind of shit. It's always some crazy fuck that wants a pet. I know.

Florida's got a giant problem with that. Yeah, with what is it, anacondas? Pythons, anacondas. What do you call it? What's that guy, Tarzan guy? He catches them all the time. Iguanas. Iguanas as well.

There's a lot of them, and they're killing them now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're culling them. They give you money if you kill iguanas. Really? Yeah well there's a lot of them and they're killing them now they're trying to like yeah they're culling them they give you money if you kill iguanas really yeah because they're digging under houses oh they dig tunnels under houses the base foundations oh shit yeah i didn't know they dig i thought they were just in trees i thought so too yeah you learn something new every day they have so many pythons there they said there's no more rabbits there's no more marsh hares raccoons deer everything's gone all pythons pythons are

eating alligators yeah oh yeah i've seen i see them and they burst out and i see the legs sticking out and shit like that they even found nile crocodiles in in the everglades really some crazy fuck some asshole brought a nile crocodile yeah they have a kill on site warning isn't it like the even it was a texas they have more tigers yep or lions yeah that was my netflix special yeah there's more tigers in texas than all of the wild of the world crazy yeah texas is so crazy did you spend much time out there i've been there when i first went there was when i think when i first met you u UFC 192, D.C., Gustafson. Yeah, I was there.

It was a good time. I didn't really, I just ate. That's all I did there, just eat and hang out. Barbecue in Texas. See, Dan was cutting weight. This was when he was at featherweight. Oh. Yeah.

I don't know how the fuck that guy ever made featherweight. I asked him, how are you feeling? He's like, I feel great. I'm like, yeah, you feel great. I was hooked. I'm like, yeah, you feel great. I was hooked. I was a mark. Afterwards, he's like,

nah, I got up to lightweight. And you see him at lightweight now. Much better. Motherfucker. Bro, I'm telling you, he's the one.

He could be. I would say, I've seen some things, man. He's a tough guy. I've had him on my back for four minutes, over a five minute round sparring,

and he's hard to get off. And he's good. you know, some people in the gym, they shine and some people under the bright lights, they shine. Some people can do both

and I'm telling you, yeah, he's the one. Like, people don't know yet. There's some things he hasn't shown of his game that I'm,

I'm sure that like, so, I was in the room when DC and John Anik were doing like the, you know, the fighter,

what do you call it? Interview. So, I did my one first and then they did Dan DC and John Anik were doing the fighter interview. I did my one first. Then Dan was telling me, John asked about the champ. How would you beat Khabib? He said he just saw DC go... Lean in like, what? He had to say some bullshit, whatever.

DC asked me to help him train for the Jones fight, the second one. And I turned it down because they had Rockhold in their camp. And I wasn't in the UFC at the time, but I knew. I don't want to give them anything. Right. I don't want to give them anything. I don't want them to say, oh, he came to our camp like I did with Black Zillions. And then they say, oh, you know, we see holes in this game right on the ride which is all bullshit but yeah, I just...

You just don't want the chat. I don't want anything. I want nothing. I don't want to give them nothing. Yeah. Yeah, because I always knew this was coming so I was like,

planet, plot your way. But you and I talked on Instagram years ago. 2014. Yeah. Yeah. And we were talking, I was like,

when am I going to see you, bro? Yeah, but hey, I said, give me my time. Let me work. Yeah. And I've been working, man. I've been working. Well, I pay attention. I pay attention to dudes who shine. Thank you, sir. Outside. You know me my time. Let me work. Yeah. I've been working, man. I've been working. Well, I pay attention.

I pay attention to dudes who shine. Thank you, sir. Outside. I know guys who are coming. I know guys who are coming up, but I knew you had been thinking about MMA, and I had been a fan of you as a kickboxer. Yeah. I've been working about it.

Well, I'm always fascinated by elite specialists that make their way into MMA, because I'm always like, well, how is this going to translate? I think that it seems harder for a lot of grapplers who don't have a background in striking. I mean, I think grappling can be the most important thing in MMA because if you can't stop a guy from taking you down, you're going to lose. But you have to start every fight on your feet. And when you see a guy who doesn't have good striking fight a guy who has elite striking. Like a good example this past weekend

was Kevin Lee versus Gregor Gillespie. Gregor Gillespie is a fucking fantastic wrestler, elite wrestler, and Kevin Lee is a better striker. And you see that every fight, and Kevin Lee has a wrestling background too, so it's no picnic taking that guy down. But you see when a guy's a better striker, has more weapons, and then Gregor gets high kicked. guy's a better striker has more weapons and then

gregor gets high kicked it's a different kind of feel and also one thing eugene and andre my wrestling coach alluded to is people forget the takedowns the wrestling starts way before the clinch starts way before you get taken down away before you engage it's all about positioning foot positioning it's all about distance control so once you have that and you understand the principles of that, your wrestling becomes easy. Like I might have, I don't know if it's the highest takedown defense percentage in the UFC's middleweight division. It's pretty goddamn good.

It's high, it's high. But, I mean, the only time was in my second fight when the guy, in the third round, I didn't break the grip and he sucked my leg in immediately after. Because I normally room with Andre. He just kind of told me what to do. I was like, okay, ever since that, in training, no one ever gets that on me, or rarely, rarely gets that on me.

So I'm always improving, man. Like I said, even right now, FOMO, I feel like fear of missing out, because I see everyone training at the gym. You keep saying FOMO. Oh, fear of missing out. That's an acronym. That's what the kids are saying. I know the kids say it, but I never bothered looking at what it means. You keep saying FOMO. Oh, Fair of Missing Out. That's an acronym. Yeah. That's what the kids are saying. I know the kids say it,

but I never bothered looking at what it means. It's Fair of Missing Out. So I see on the group chat what the team's doing and I see them working the 10 a.m. squad. Shout out to the 10 a.m. squad

where they at. And you start feeling it. Yeah, I'm psyched. I gotta get back there. Yeah, 100%. Especially like just the young guys coming up. I see it

and I'm not stupid man I know the target's on my back it's easy to get this but it's hard to keep it so yeah I want to make sure I want to do what

Demetrius did I want to do what Silva did you know I want to be one of those guys who just racks it up get all the infinity stones all the gems

now what happens if they overrun the outside of this thing with gems give me a new belt give me a new belt they Give me a new belt. They used to give you a new belt every time. I know.

I'll stop putting these ones, all the gems on these bits. Guys like Stipe. Stipe has a shitload of belts. It would have been cool. I was looking forward to that. I might. I'm sure I can buy some of them. Talk to somebody.

What did you think about the BMF belt? Yeah, it's a touchy subject, right? I felt like, well, I like the idea, you know, the fact that Nadia, he ain't no West Coast gangster, you know, from Miami, whatever. They should have kept that between them. The company didn't have to get involved. They didn't have to get involved to, like, try and solidify this. But what it was was they needed a title for the MSG card

because Colby and usman and what else happened but look at this misha tate versus holly home was the co-main event as a title fight for diaz uh mcgregor one right so you don't that fight itself would have been fine without the belt without the rock with all that kind of stuff but it happened and yeah it's cool what's going to happen now is he gonna defend it because even the ego in me is like what are you doing what are you doing masvidal but like i mean there's no point because are they gonna defend the belt are they gonna i don't know yeah well i feel like masvidal's championship caliber i might put some fucking spinners on this now and then do like

john cena call this the freestyle belt. You know? Like, yeah. You know, I see what you're saying, but I feel like Miles Vidal is world championship caliber. Fuck yeah, 100%. 100%. I've been a fan of that guy since way back.

Me too. Everyone's just finding out now. All these guys, oh, Street Jesus. I'm like, well, I'm not a hipster. I knew him before he was cool, man. I don't want to be that guy.

But I like his resurrection. I like the fact that he rebranded himself. Because you have to do that. I see it in movies. I see actors do it, entertainment. You rebrand yourself, new package, and then boom. Do you know what happened with him? He said he went away.

He did this reality show in South America. Yeah, so I watched it. But he said he went away and had time to himself. Smart man. Yeah. Well, what happened was he was on this reality show. And Dan Lambert said it was a terrible experiences by himself all day no phone he had to go into the village to get food there's no fucking food like what was the island i forget

somewhere in south america but the the experience was it was several months and it was a disaster and he didn't like it at all and and then it forced him to think about where he's at where it could be. And one of the things he was saying is, like, all these split decisions. And he was thinking, like, why did it go that way instead of the other way? Like, why did I lose that fight instead of win it? Because there was a lot of them that are really close. And he was thinking, well, maybe I could have done a little bit more and won that fight.

And then he said, why am I thinking like a fucking peasant? He goes, why don't i just knock that motherfucker out and then and so that shift in his mentality changed and then all of a sudden he mercs don serrani mercs darren till mercs ben askren beats the fuck out of nate diaz like he's a different person now now he's what he could have been yeah he is potential realized like he's a rebirth he's at a hundred percent he's at a hundred percent right now you get in the ring man you get in the cage with that guy he's even thinking about boxing with canelo yes my man crazy yes it was interesting yeah fucking cajones man

he's got them all i mean his thought is like hey man i i can do more than conor mcgregor did and i'm not gonna fade yeah yeah you know you can and i think because i watched the fight again it's different when you watch it live. When I was watching it live, I saw Diaz coming back and he was in the third round and I was swinging towards Diaz like, oh, maybe he won that round.

But I watched it back and I'm like, nah, he had all three. Yeah, he had all three. And Diaz was, like I said, he was coming back, but on the scorecards,

yeah, I think he already had it. In a couple of those rounds, you could make an argument for a 10-8. Yeah. He beat the fuck out of Diaz in that first round. I think he hit him in the gut. And Diaz, tactical move, vet move, just dropped down.

Just dropped down. So he's like, all right, come to my guard. Because he probably got hurt to the body. I heard one of them. It was nasty, man. 100%. That right body kick. Pow.

It slipped because Diaz tried to block it on him. And he just went right underneath it. And the thing I hate as well, inspiring, is when you kick the elbow. You ever try that? Sucks. Yeah, I broke my foot doing that. Everybody does. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck my foot. I the thing I hate as well, inspiring, is when you kick the elbow. You ever try that? Sucks. Yeah, I broke my foot doing that. Everybody does.

Yeah, yeah. Fuck my foot. I cracked it doing that as well. The tip of the elbow is so hard, and the top of your foot is so soft. It takes a real skill. Like, Jarent Hill has it as well, where they can sneak it underneath. It's a different angle. Eugene taught me how to do it. So, yeah, I love it.

I love it. It's one of my moves. I hit Tavares with it as well before I swept him. You have to learn how to sweep just right underneath. You got your eye on Till. Now it's Till. Now he's 185 pounds. Interesting guy.

I saw him last year on the press conference leading up to the Bronson fight. I even said, look, I can't wait till we do it, man. I know one day we'll clash. And it's just because of the styles. Styles make fights. And he's got a style that I like. Very basic. But when I say basic, I don't mean that with disrespect.

I say he's got strong basics. He's a southpaw. He's a nice straight left. Nice body kick. Curves the left. He knows how to change it up. And then the clinch as well when he gets close. I like what he did with Gastelum.

He played the distance game well. I learned it in the third round. I kind of learned it in the fight. But Gastel distance game well. You know, I learned it in the third round. I kind of learned it in the fight. But Gastelum was doing something to get close. What happened in the third round? In the third round, I knew where his, like right after the fight, me and Eugene were like, fuck, that's what he did. That's how we got so close. And we knew already.

But it was hard to call it in the fight because we were too focused on other things. But I think automatically through muscle memory memory i was able to take that distance away from him in the fight and then from the third round but for first i think for the first round and some of the second round he was able to like use it's a little hop step everyone knows it now it's a little hop step he'd jab me jab me put it in my face it's like a little so you're calculating his movement yeah i'm not doing it this way i'm doing it like internal muscle memory right memory it's your memory of fights and sparring and knowing what you can do versus knowing what you see him doing yeah and just like it's like a dance so that's super hard to explain

to people they don't understand why you look at a guy and you're like listen to me that guy's gonna fuck that guy up and people go what are you talking about i'm like listen to me that guy's gonna like when anderson silver first fought chris lieben yeah i remember the odds were like real close and i pulled a friend of mine aside i said bet the house bet the house on anderson he goes are you serious i go bet the house i go bet the house yeah i go this guy's an um an assassin this is a different thing you're seeing a different thing I'm telling you This is one of the rare The fucking sky has to fall For him to lose

No one knew That's the thing No one knew who he was Until that happened But I'd watch all those Cage warriors fight When he was standing In front of Jorge Rivera

And letting him punch him In the face He's just rolling with it Just rolling with it He did it to me as well People don't understand this And they said Ah fucking casuals

Casuals I like it And a lot of experts as well Have casual brains Because they're like People don't understand this. And they said, ah, fucking casuals. Casuals. I like it. And a lot of experts as well have casual brains because they're like, you know, Israel has no knockout power because he hit Henderson Silver in the face clean. I'm like, you don't understand this. Henderson is playing a game where me and him are playing this game. So when I hit him, I didn't hit him clean.

I'm not trying to hit him where he is. I'm trying to hit him where he's going to be. But then he knows that as well. So he'd anticipate that and then pause. The distance is just right. So it just nicks him. There's a time I kicked him in the face and I slowed it down on my Instagram. Just went and just like my toe.

You see my toes. They're ugly as fuck. Like it just nicked the top lip. And I went, she's close. Because I felt it. my toe nicked and he goes and we're playing this game but like literally i was trying to hit him where he's gonna be but then he paused and then the punch would just so it looked cool yeah it looked like but i was like i didn't hit him clean right i like he just we're playing this game and people don't understand people who've never fought they don't understand that game you're playing yeah it was beautiful man i love that fight i love that fight too it was

boring i was like fuck that was iconic man that was a i wish you had left after that fight man because i wanted to be the one the people are silly yeah that was a great fight yeah but that's just people that don't have an appreciation for movement and like what it takes what it takes most people don't know shit about mma no most people don't know shit about everything exactly yeah i mean there's a lot of people out there that are experts yeah don't know shit about MMA. No, most people don't know shit about everything. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are experts, air quotes, that don't know shit about what they're talking about. The thing about Anderson and you is, god damn, I would have loved to see that fight when Anderson was 10 years younger and you are where you're at right now.

I'll tell you how it goes. How's it go? Same way it went. You know why? Why? He's never had someone do to him what he's done to people. Because what I was doing to him, making him jump, making him do, whenever he did this, that's all fugazi.

That's all like, oh, you made me faint. Do you know what fugazi is? I've used it a few times. What does it mean? Do you know what it means? No. It's an interesting term. There was a limousine company in New York, and they started writing bad checks.

And so those checks became Fugazi checks. It's fake. Is that Italian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a limousine company called Fugazi Limousines. Oh, so it's not a real word. No, well, it is. Is it an Italian word?

It became an expression. Oh, I see. It just became an expression, Fugazi. Yeah. So this company started writing bad checks, so that Something's fake It's Fugazi Yeah Learn something new every day Like FOMO

Yeah No but like Yeah So whenever I'd like Feint him Or make him jump Or make him react You know like

I got you He'd like Right Trapping hands Kung fu 52 blocks Right But it was There was no

Well he didn't He went through his career Fighting really good fighters Great fighters But never an elite kickboxer yeah never an elite world-class kickboxer like a world championship caliber fighter like yourself not well not a kickboxer but definitely some like you said good fighters but the guys all the guys that he beat of that error they couldn't last in this era it's a different time now the game has changed the game keeps evolving and it like how do I say it's no disrespect but it's just it's it's if you had me in my prime right now

i'm not even in my prime kind of in it how old are you now 27 do you 30 i know i try you look good thank you so likewise likewise likewise but um yeah it's just pretty much the game of inches a game of fake a game of ha gotcha right and i do that better than him yeah i feel that and dude this is the guy i've loved and i've you know fucking gagged and jizz about him the whole fucking career like he's the fucking i use wrong words yeah play fast forward but uh like i know what you're saying literally like i've fanboyed over the guy His whole career And I've studied him

I knew what he was gonna do Before he do it Like when He tripped me I was getting up And in my head I was like Okay here come that flying knee

And then whoop I did like Literally I pressed eject I was like Get the fuck out of dodge Straight away Like honestly I was like

I'm not And then he just Huffed the cage like At one point Even I hit him in the tummy I hit him in the tummy And he touched me in the tummy And I was like, I'm not. And then he just held the cage. Like, at one point, even I hit him in the tummy. I hit him in the tummy. And he touched me in the tummy. And I was like, he goes, let me try.

I was like, no. We didn't catch that. Or even at one point as well, when he put his hands down. And we were playing that game. And he just went, whoop, whoop, whoop. I went, stop doing that. I threw my hands up. I was like, stop doing that.

There's no one on this fucking planet, if you put your hands down and chin up, that I'll tell you stop doing that. But no, hands down, chin up. Keep doing that i threw my hands up i stopped doing that there's no one on this fucking planet if you put your hands down and chin up that i'll tell you stop doing that but no hands down chin up keep doing that but for whatever reason i said stop doing that and i don't know why i said that that's why that's a question i have to answer like after i retire and see because people are like oh did you hold back on anything i'm like fuck no i was i rocked him in the first round and if i had deadened him, I was trying to. I was trying to win. But I still have love for the guy and I respect the guy.

He might not feel the same, but he's a guy that. I think he does. I think he does. And he told me, like, he let me know what to do. He told me, like I said, don't lose focus. And that's why even right now, like I said, FOMO, I'm like, you know, all this shit is cool. This victory tour, you know, parading this shit around. It's nice, but I want to work. Yeah victory tour, you know, parading this shit around. It's nice,

but I want to work. Yeah. Yeah. That's the attitude that makes champions. 100%, man. Was it weird being across the cage from him? Knowing him like. Only one more,

one moment. There was one moment and it was in the third round and he went to the, he's like, come on, puts his back against the fence. It's what he did to Bisping.

And he front kicked him in the face. He's like, come on, come on. It's okay. And then like, kind of sat there. And at one point, I was just stood there. I was like's what he did to Bisping. And he front kicked him in the face. He's like, come on, come on. It's okay. And then kind of sat there. And at one point, I was just stood there. I was like, I'm going to wait, too.

And it was maybe like seven seconds, but there's a split second in there that I was just like, holy shit. I'm fighting Anderson Silva. Nah. I was like, fuck off. Nah, this is my time. And I was like, nah, he's right here.

Then he came to the center of the cage. And then we kept it going but look at right there this right here is gonna live forever god damn that picture this is forever after I'm done fighting

with what I'm gonna do in this game oh my god it's for moments like this fuck the belt it's iconic moments that you know like Ali over Sonny List

yeah pictures like that I got that at home framed signed by Muhammad Ali wow see shit like that I'll sign this for someone sometime and then literally it's gonna be framed Sonny Liston Yeah I got that at home Framed Signed by Muhammad Ali Wow Yeah See shit like that

I'll sign this for someone sometime And then literally It's gonna be framed Honestly it's so beautiful man And this is Rock Lee Even something like There's some synchronicities That happen

So this is from this anime The first fight I watched in this Can you Google this? Pull it up Jamie What is it? Rock Lee vs. Gaara G-A-A-R-A This is episode 46 of Naruto

And it was the first fight I ever watched That got me into the series And What is this anime series Naruto? I've only seen it online It's pretty much It takes too long It's a 720 episode fucking

Yeah 720 episodes Yeah So this bit right here He takes the weight off He takes the weight off Or you can watch the highlights And then literally

There's some heavy ass weights. But he fucks up Gara. But I did the stance Rock Lee normally does. I did the stance that he normally does in the weigh-ins. And Anderson stood there like Gara. But he probably doesn't even know what that is. But he just stood there like this. And shit like that, it's a Taijutsu fight. It's just like when life imitates art without even trying.

You know what I mean? And I edited it. I got some guys, you know, shout out to Cutcraft and Black Green FX. They edited it for me to make it look the same as this. But literally, yeah, shit like this jazzes me up, man. I'm geeking out right now. Fucking nerd. Shout out to Jon Jones.

Sorry. Did he call you nerd? Yeah. I know. My feelings. Nerd is not negative man Of course I'll take it I'm a fucking nerd

I got nunchuck skills Bow hunting skills All that There's nothing wrong With being a nerd man I mean nerds run the world Fuck yeah Look at Elon

Yeah Nerds run the fucking world For real I keep telling kids man Like don't peak in high school man Especially the nerds I told them I've spoken to some schools now And I I just tell them, like, look, and New Zealand's got

the highest youth suicide rate in the world, and it's because a lot of these kids, like, literally, yeah, they think this is going to be forever, like, whatever they're feeling, the depression, being bullied, being fucked with, and it's different now because of all this shit. Yeah. Like, you know, depression, whatnot. Social media. People attacking you.

And I just tell them, like, look, it's going to be fine. This isn't forever. At the end of the day, they will peak now. Like, when I go back to where I grew up in Rotorua, when I see some of the kids that used to fuck with me, I'm like, I'm scared of you. Right. Like, literally. Even when I close my eyes now, because I had a late growth spurt, I can see them. I visualize them. And I still see them as bigger than me.

But when I go back, they're short and dumpy and got five different kids to three different baby mamas and working at the same job for the last 12 years. And I'm just like, man, you were in the first 15 rugby team. You were the man. I thought you was the man. But no, I'm the man. But I never feel any kind of way of it i don't feel only two of them ever apologized but i don't feel like because i'm petty you know i got chips and dips on my shoulder i'm that guy but i don't feel the type of way where i have to like

shitting them because i understand kids are cruel kids are dumb and i see it this day and age i see it like they don't even know what they're doing while they're doing it they just fucking angry little chimps with hormones and they don't know what's happening. I know. I would have told myself don't think with your penis. That's the best advice I'll give young men because no one tells them that.

No one. Jerk off first then think about it. 100%. That's what I tell them. What's this no nut November bullshit? Oh, that's nonsense.

What? That's a good way to make giant mistakes. I lost on the first day. Three times. Fuck all that, man. I'm blushing, man. Exactly.

All that tantric shit. Gotta let it go. They try to keep it inside their body. That's nonsense. Because then it's age jizz. If you haven't jizzed after a while, when you jizz, look at it. Yeah, it's like whiskey. Yeah.

Dry age. La Chayam. I'm not going to drink this. I know. I feel bad about drinking it now. It's alright Yeah what is that No nut November

Get out of here That's a good way To stay confused Yeah You're gonna make A lot of bad choices That month Yes

Yeah How many times Have guys made bad choices I was trying to explain This to a woman She was saying That men are assholes And they pretend

To be someone So just so they Could fuck a girl And then after They fuck a girl Then you see Who they really are I go listen

They don't even know Who the fuck they are I go when a guy's Telling you That fuck a girl, then you see who they really are. I go, listen, they don't even know who the fuck they are. I go, when a guy's telling you that they're in love with you, they mean that in that moment. And then they come, and then they're like, what? What did I do? I got to get out of here. It's not that they're being deceptive to you.

They're being deceived as well. I had a whole bit about it that when you have a boner, you are in the back seat of a very long I've heard it You are like In the back seat Of a very long bus And there's another dude Driving the bus You're like Where the fuck is he going?

Like what is Reckless Yeah you're watching Your life take place Through a windshield 50 feet away from you That's what it's like For men

Don't do it man I agree You jerk off first And you go out with a girl If you really enjoy your company Yeah Not November Wait who won this thing By the way The Sober October We didn't have a championship This year You jerk off first and you go out with a girl if you really enjoy her company. Yeah. Nut, nut, nut November.

Yeah. Wait, who won this thing, by the way, the Sober October? We didn't have a championship this year. Did we? All we did- Just for friends. Yeah. Good, good, good. We just had a thing where you had to do 10 classes and read 500 pages of any books.

Okay. We just decided because- That's cool. See, that's something you can get behind. Yeah. Last year was too crazy. Yeah. We're doing cardio seven hours a day.

I watched that. Between Tommy and Machine. Yeah. Yeah, because he was doing some crazy shit to try and lose the weight. Yeah, they were all trying to lose weight. And Bert, I told him if he gets down to 205, he could have the sober October belt. What's he right now? He's about 250.

300? He ain't losing that weight. All you have to do is lose the weight and get the belt. I mean, I told him. He's having fun. He goes, we're in about 235. I go, dude,

there's guys who fight in the 205 pound division that weigh 235 on Tuesday and they fight on Saturday and they weigh in on Friday at 205. You can do it. You can do it.

But, you know, discipline. Bert's going to Bert. Bert's going to Bert. Yeah. It's a discipline issue. I think he's coming

to New Zealand as well. He's already been. Is he? I can't remember. The Bertie boy tour yeah yeah machine i need to get i need to get a gig out there my man tony angelo said if you want to come through he can suss it out okay yeah he's looking forward to it but he said like get in contact with him i was like i don't know well what i should do is plug it up now do a gig and then take a few days and go hunting. Bro, you'd love it, man. Even if you take your kids and just, like, there's a lodge out there. Oh, yeah?

It's really expensive, but I'm sure for you they'll cut you out. Okay. Yeah, easy as. It's a nice spot. And they'll take you to one of these ranches where, you know, you can get. Either, like, my advice, go with Eugene. I won't even come. Like, go with Eugene. He knows, like, some shit.

And he knows the skills as well. Or you can go to these ranches where they have it for you where you can get one of those, like a big red. Yeah. Like, my first time I shot one dead was a big red,

and I remember, like, we're downwind. We tracked it. It took ages. And you're surprised how the guy who owns the land, old man, but he was fucking kicking our ass, man.

Like, me and Eugene were fit, but he's just like a mountain goat, just trekking, trekking. They get used to hiking. It's nothing to them. We and then i get there and then we like takes about maybe 10 minutes because they're all there in the herd yeah feasting and then we like flanked it properly we're not was it downwind we're upwind away from it that's the one well you want them to smell it you want to be downwind so the wind is coming to you yeah so they can't smell us yeah yeah and Yeah. And then I remember like hit it. Boom.

Right there. You hit it with a rifle? Yeah. Rifle. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how to use a bow yet. Yeah.

But then. Yeah. Yeah. Cameron said he wanted to hook you up. He said, well, I'll wait in time. In time. Anytime. I want to fight first.

I want to get this done. I'll arrange that. Oh, man. But then she dropped right there. There and dead. And then I went up there And me and my boy Rod Is one of my tattooists

He shows me how to like Section it up And then there's a slinky in there Like that's We call that the baby So you take that out Slinky? Yeah it's like the baby

The infant that's in there Oh you've shot a female Yeah a female Yeah so she dropped there You call it a slinky? Yeah right there I think they call it a slinky Because of the way it moves

I'm assuming so Oh Jesus Yeah so So you dispose of that Because the pig is going to eat it. It's going to go back to the earth, all that kind of stuff. And that was the first day. And that was my big red. And the next day, we're going.

We're on the fucking, what do you call it, the ATV. And then out of nowhere, we see two fallows, the smaller ones. And they're up on the ridge. And then my coach, Doug, Doug Viney, he's a K1 champion as well from Vegas, why not? And then I shot it. And I didn't hit this one that's clean. So then, like, we have to trek all the way up, like, you know, all this kind of shit. What do you call them?

Stinging needle. Yeah, yeah. Fucking annoying. And then get up to it, and you see it trying to, like, oh, the vegan's going to hate me for this. But then I was like, oh, shit, okay. And then. You had to finish it off. Yeah, I have to, you know, do the right this. But then I was like, oh, shit, okay. And then. You had to finish it off. Yeah, I have to do the right thing.

So I get the rifle, right? I'm there. I'm looking at it, and then I'm looking through the scope. And then Doug's like, this is after about 30 seconds. You all right? I was like, yeah, hold up. Just have to. I was like, you're not scared, are you?

I'm like, nah. But then I realized the shit's fucking two feet in front of me. I'm using the scope. Oh, you couldn't see it? Oh, yeah. Doom. Yeah. And that was it.

She was done. You couldn't find it in the scope. And then, yeah. Scopes are weird. If you get too close, you're all fucked up. That was just like a brain fart moment because I was just used to using the scope. So I'm like, why the fuck are you using the scope when the thing's right there in front of you? So I just hit it.

Boom, point blank. Dead. I had to do the same thing in the first DR shot. Stop suffering. Yeah. right there in front of you so I just hit it boom point blank dead I had to do the same thing in the first deer shot stop suffering but then one thing I really enjoyed was afterwards when you have to section it right there

and this is the thing man if you can't my personal philosophy is if you can't hunt if you can't kill what you eat don't eat meat don't touch it

because you don't understand where it comes from and eventually one day kind of like what you have now you have your own operation I want to have my own operation I want to have my own like land my own property where i can just like bang bang bang

yeah freezer stock it up right pigs organic yeah and it's different man it's a lot different especially when you have to section it yourself the fallow i sectioned myself the big one i gave to my butcher friend to make like garlic sausages And salami All that kind of stuff It was beautiful And then Yeah Rod taught me How to section the You know

You use your hands wet You put it through the skin And it acts like a knife And it's Oh it separates the soft tissue It's actually a good technique And yeah It was fun

But it's been about two years Now since I've been back in the bush Because you know I've been busy The nutrition though Is so much stronger. It's so good for athletes, for someone like yourself. My God, that fallow deer and stag, that nutrition is as good as it gets.

Yeah. Wild animals. I think it was before the Brunson fight because, long story, but, like, after my debut, I'll go back to this, but, like, pretty much the Brunson fight before it was when I realized how you eat affects how you think and how you feel your mental health no sure because beforehand before the fight before I couldn't wait I was eating like shit like literally just cuz you know I cut way easy so I'm just eating everything whatnot and then throughout that camp I

was getting like I hurt myself as well remember I mentioned I had to post fight press conference and then I had to take a whole week off training this is like five weeks out and i had to make the call like fuck we're gonna pull from this fight so we don't leave it too late so they can find a replacement or take a whole week off come back monday and then see how we feel and then doing that i ate right i ate proper you know i was a little bit like depressed and shit like that because of the way I was eating already. But that week transitioned everything just because of the way I was eating and the way I looked after my body. And then when I got back to camp, boom.

And I realized through that camp and also reading Charlemagne's book as well, The Shook Ones. Oh, yeah. It kind of helped me. I listened to it. Yeah, I listened to it too. I suck at reading. Well, that's a good one to listen to too because it's read by him. He's such an interesting orator. Yeah, and the way he reads it, he's funny because i listen to brilliant idiots as well yeah well he's honest yeah he's on i mean like for a guy like him to talk about being

fucked up with anxiety it's like people are like what you you're the guy who talks about crazy shit no people don't understand man like even my boy champs he's with me right now you know like for me i like to because i'm on this journey now I like to take those That came up with me I bring them on this journey Like I went to Dubai I brought my brother With me So I can inspire him

I went to Nigeria I brought AB with me You know cause he's Nigerian I told him after this trip Like be careful Cause you're gonna You know holiday blues You know like when you

Come back from a holiday You feel like oh And everyone All these Instagram posts Take me back You know with their Bikini shorts and what not I told him When you get back home You're gonna feel it And I know Cause I've experienced it as well And everyone, all these Instagram posts, take me back, you know, with their bikini shorts and whatnot.

I told him, when you get back home, you're going to feel it. And I know because I've experienced it as well. After my UFC debut, I literally, my after party was three hours of just, hi, nice to meet you. Hi. At one point, I literally went to go hide somewhere. And some guy found me. He's like, bro, you all right? What are you doing? I'm like, I'm good.

I'm just chilling. I'm just taking five minutes alone. He's like, oh, yeah. I was like, now you understand, eh? And just sat like i'm good i'm just chilling i'm just taking five minutes alone it's like oh yeah it's like now yeah i understand day and just sat next to me i'm just like fuck alone means you yeah exactly here motherfucker and then after i got home like you know got a bonus got a nice check from the ufc and then got depressed and i'm just like what the fuck yeah like i'm home alone with my own thoughts and i was like what like what the i didn't get that i didn't understand this so i even just because of everything that was happening i started seeing the therapist straight away just because i felt like

no one teaches you how to be famous there's no book about this and i've seen a lot of people athletes movies singers rappers rise and fall and i'm not going to be one of those people good for you john charles but then i went to a therapist from october from february to october just to kind of like learn some tools to help me with this and then so after my first fight happened my second fight i happened my third fight brad terraris fight main event fucking all the stimulus it's like coffee you drink coffee and then you get all the stimulus you're hyped and you come off it crash yeah i equate. I equate it to the same thing. And then those tools that I got from my therapist really helped me just kind of like navigate back.

So New York was the first fight I got back to my house. And I was just like, right, boom. I know how to attack this. I know what's going to happen. And I was anticipating because beforehand I didn't anticipate the hype that was going to happen, the wave after the fight. Like, after this fight, I already know what's happened. Like, I knew it was going to be, like, more than everything I've done in the UFC already. So I braced for it, and I prepared myself, and I had the right people and the right tools to help me ease back into my regular routine.

So I went back home, and it was just easy. What was the feeling of depression? Because obviously you had this spectacular result. You won. Yeah. And then, but what was it? What was the feeling? Like, what was bothering you?

If I think about it, my debut, when I got back home, sit down. It was just like, I don't know. And I hate, trust me, I love fucking the perks. Fuck fame. I don't like being famous, but I love the perks. A lot of perks. But like when you get back home and I'm with, that's why I like hanging out with my dogs and my cat because they don't say anything. I can just be.

I can just exist with them. I don't have to entertain them. I don't have to talk. Right. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not always extroverted. I'm a cuss baby. I'm a crab lion. Cancer Leo.

A crab lion? Cancer and Leo, yeah. cuss baby i'm a crab lion cancer leo a crab lion oh cancer and leo yeah but like i can go you know both ways you know hard soft right like a semi-chop but you know but like yeah so i can when i'm home by myself i'm just very reserved i like to be in my own thoughts i like to be in my own space you know like what Jorge had to do in Panama Or wherever he was And the feeling was just not It's almost I've heard of imposter syndrome

I'm not sure if I'm saying it If I'm using it right But I don't know I don't want to say that's what I had But like You almost feel like you don't You don't belong Yeah like I don't belong

I don't deserve this I think everybody has that Yeah so when I So I had to go through that For my first fight my second fight my third fight and like i said it wasn't until the brunson fight i just decided to fucking own it because in new york yeah there's this clip on youtube of this guy he's walking around time square normal just chilling no one pays attention to him and then he goes to he goes uh comes back at nighttime and and then he's hired security camera crew. He dresses the part, and he's walking around Triumph Square.

He's just a regular dude, like a YouTube content creator. And then everyone's down to like, who's this? Who's this guy? Oh, can I take a photo? Yeah, cool. Take a photo? Yeah, cool. And then the camera guy goes up to random people and goes like, so how do you know his name's Brian?

How do you know Brian? How do you? And they're like, so how do you know, his name's Brian. How do you know Brian? How do you, and they're like, oh, I saw him in Spider-Man, you know, yeah, I think it was pretty good,

you know, and then the guy would go to another guy, you know, so what do you think about his last album? And be like, oh, I mean, I didn't hear the whole thing,

but I heard a single on the radio, and people just lying through their teeth, lying through their teeth about who the fuck this guy is, they don't even know who he was. I experienced that deja vu. Fucking crazy. In Times Square in New York. Madison Square Garden.

I experienced that in Times Square. Literally shooting for my brand Engage. Shooting some shots for them. So there's an embedded crew around me. My crew around me. And I'm not even trying. And at one point I kind of just. Because I'm always noticing everything around me.

And I see people like. Some people recognize who I was. And then I saw people like. And I can hear them like who is he and the same person come hey man big fan yo can i grab a pic i'm just like all right take a pic and next person like and he said hi can i get a picture and just take a picture and they don't know who the fuck i am they just know somebody likes you exactly they just oh he's famous boom and they just want to get that shine so shit like that kind of humbles you and lets you know. You can get caught up in all that shit, man.

I talk about hype a lot, and I'm like, fuck it. Just own it. New York was when I decided, like, I'm not going to feel like I don't belong. Just own it. This is my life now. Well, I think what you're doing is you're taking the mentality of a high-level striker, and you're applying it to fame because you don't want to get caught in traps. You want to see all the pitfalls.

Like if your chin's up, you drop your hand. If you have a tendency that someone can exploit, you got to go, oh, I'll make sure I mix this up, show them different moves. You don't want to get caught in traps. Yeah, I don't want to get caught, never. Yeah, but that is also what happens with fame. You get caught in your own traps. You set your own traps. Yeah, I know I make my own mistakes. I won't crash into a pregnant. You get caught in your own traps. You set your own traps. Yeah.

I know I make my own mistakes. I won't crash into a pregnant lady, but I make my own mistakes. Sorry, I'm taking all the shots. Come get it. Well, when you and him started going after it, when Jon Jones started going after it on Instagram, I was like, oh, no. Let it be known. He started it. Yes.

He started it. Why did he start it? What do you think it was? I think it's I'm the freshman. I'm the guy that he wishes he was. And he's a fan. Trust me. He's a fan.

He's my biggest fan. And I think he sees himself, you know, like, man, I could have been that cool if I didn't fuck all this up. And he sees me like the new freshman getting all the shine, getting all the hype. But he's still the champ. He is. And he's still undefeated, really. No one really cares about his fights.

He is. Oh, fuck that Matt Hamill shit was bullshit and the Matt Hamill talking shit at him talking shit at him he was just trying he was just trying

he was just trying you know I don't I mean Matt Hamill's probably broke yeah you know what I'm saying he hasn't fought in forever

I get it he just wanted another he's undefeated he's a guy I think when I first watched him fight because I was a fan it was UFC 94

Penn versus GSP2 And he fought Stephen Bonner Yeah And just hit him With some stuff Hit him with that Spinning elbow

Hit him with that Double overhook Lateral drop Oh shit Who the fuck's this guy You know And you know The comparisons

Were always going to be there Like with him And oh this is Silver with wrestling And when I came with him And oh this is Silva With wrestling And when I came on the scene Oh this is Jones With better striking

I'm like And I said it From the get go I'll outgrow those Comparisons I was like They're going to forget about this So now they're not comparing us

They're saying Oh let's watch them fight I like the fight I said This is July After the I think it was the MMA awards I was in my hotel room

and allegedly i might have been stoned but i looked allegedly i was fucking stoned and i was looking across and i could see raider stadium being built and i was like for whatever reason just decided that's where it's gonna happen it's such a fucking crazy fight the way it's gonna happen it's just boom let him go to heavyweight i'll drag him back down i'll drag him back down and i said like 2021 is the time because i don't want to disrespect the game i'm not going to hold up the division the division will be held up long enough by robert fucking being sick and being injured and you know romero not making weight and all this shit i'm like let me do what silver did which was honor the fucking code and actually be a champion and defend the belt so i'm going to do that I've done it once against Robert Whitaker, double interim champ.

So I'm going to do it again. There's killers out there. I even saw Kananir in the weekend. And he's a fucking beautiful dude, man. Such a nice guy. He's a very nice guy. I said, what's up, brother? How you doing?

He's a killer. Exactly. He's the dark horse. He's the dark horse. He is. Everyone thinks Romero is. Everyone thinks Costler is the one. Nah.

He is the guy I'm like, I'm stalking him. I've been watching him, man. He's another guy that's made a shift. Over the last year and a half or so, Jared's made a shift where he's just become more and more serious, more and more dangerous. And you watch him. When he took out Anderson Silva and he fucked his leg up, you're like, Jesus. He's on a mission. He's on a mission.

I see him, man. I'm not slipping. They'll never catch me slipping unless I slip him and I rip him. He's got fantastic genetics, too. That guy's a tank. See, I saw when he was fighting this guy at heavyweight. He was heavyweight. Yeah, he walked slip him and I rip him. He's got fantastic genetics, too. I mean, that guy's a tank. See, I saw when he was fighting this guy at heavyweight. He was heavyweight. Yeah, he walked him down with his hands down.

Heavyweight. Yeah, he's a guy I wouldn't tell to stop doing that. Now he's 185 and shredded. Yeah, he looks good, man. My man snapped back. Go all the way from heavyweight to 185. That's fucking phenomenal. I think Roy Nelson should have done it, to be honest. What do you think about that kid, Edmund Shabazian?

I saw his fight. I didn't know who he was until I think it was Tim. I'm saying his last name right, right? I think so. Yeah. Until, what's his name? Tim told me, like, oh, shit, that I rewatched the fight. Did I see it live?

I can't remember. Dude, he's 21 years old. And he hit Brad Tavares with the head kick, and that kind of got my attention. Like, oh, shit, who's this kid? He starched him with that right hand. And, you know, that's what I mean. Like, he's at 185. He's 21.

He's on the come up. He just beat. I played with Brad for five rounds. He starched him in one round. I'm not taking that lightly. I look at that kid. Eventually, when he comes up, I'm sure I'll see him at some point. But that's what I mean.

I need to get back to work. Don't get me wrong. I'm up, I'm sure I'll see him at some point. But that's what I mean. I need to get back to work. Don't get me wrong. I understand. I'm working. Yeah, I understand. But I want to, you know, the FOMO. I feel like, yeah. I feel cunty as well if I don't train.

That is the thing of pressure. That is the thing of pressure of being a champion. I'll never forget when BJ Penn choked out Matt Hughes to win the title in 170. And I was interviewing Matt in the in the octagon he was real honest about it he goes i'm gonna be honest with you this is a relief he goes the pressure the pressure of all these guys coming after me for so long he goes i'm glad it's off my shoulder they're not used to it and that's why i said that about robert on i said on record like i said he's not used to this pressure is an acquired taste it's an acquired taste not everyone likes it it's

like caviar or a goosey or yeah some you know like exactly people don't understand it and for me before the ufc there's a hype you know i jump in the ufc do my work hype hype hype all the way through yeah and i said i've been chopping this pressure for breakfast lunch and dinner it's easy to me the guy's been away the whole time I've been running through the fucking division. The time I've been, you know, like staking my claim as a fucking champ. And he's not used to this pressure. And your comeback fight, you want to come up in the biggest show against me? I wouldn't even, if I was a coach, 16 months is too long to put a guy against me.

And I said, he's not going to be used to it. And he said, oh, you know, I don't care. You know, this Israel fella is not as good as he thinks he is. I was like, all right, watch this. Well, the thing about the UFC is you don't get tune-up fights. Nah. They don't exist. That's why I said I'm going to come here ready.

Because I know they're going to put me in the deep end. They're going to put me against the guy. So that's why me and Eugene had the plan, like, we've got to be ready for everyone. Yeah. To be honest, I'm glad it For everyone Yeah To be honest I'm glad It happened the way it happened I'm glad I didn't rush And people were like

Oh Well you're not the Youngest champion UFC's history I didn't wanna be That doesn't mean Cause if No like I'm glad

All this shit happened to me Not when I was 23 or 24 Cause I would've fucked up Don't weigh worth shit You know But I'm happy that I matured I had my metamorphosis When I was 28

And that's when A shift happened for me That's when i became china helped a lot as well like being away from my comfort zone being in the mainland and excuse me hey my man like china helped me get ready for all this because being a big black man in the mainland they don't really see people like us all the time fighting in my first stadium show in china in front of 40 000 people being mobbed in china all that stuff i just use it as reps i was like okay this is all preparing me for this this is all preparing me for the big time so when this time comes i got to be ready and i got to roll out do you have a very wise way of looking at the future and i think that's what led you to getting therapy when you started feeling a little weird after your first fight.

I mean, that's very intelligent to seek help, to try to figure out, okay, there's got to be a good way to handle this. And I need tools. And there's a stigma around it as well. Even when I mentioned it, I think I put it on my Instagram story after my win against Robert Whitaker. I went to a therapist that Monday. The session was supposed to last maybe an hour and a half we finished in 30 minutes because i saw her two weeks beforehand the week of the fight and then i saw her after the fight and literally was like cool i think we got what we needed all right i'll see you if i need you again but then people were like

oh so brave you know you come out and you know People with mental illness And oh my god Hashtag I'm like I'm not Not Everyone is mentally ill But Everyone has to look after

Their mental health Because if you don't Then you will get sick Just like your physical health If you don't look after If I start eating shit Drinking all day I'll get physically sick

So if you don't Look after your mental health Then you're gonna get mentally ill 100% Then they're gonna put you In a straight jacket yes and all that you know like yeah you don't want that so for me i just have to look after myself i don't want to end up like 2007 britney you know oh shaving yeah you're all crazy with them you look good with your head shaved though i think she looked all right i'll be smashed that's also i would have as well but

that's a thing where you're dealing with a young person. And when you said about that you're not the youngest ever champ, I don't think it's good. I don't think it's good to have that kind of unqualified success. Not unqualified, meaning you don't deserve it, but unprecedented. At a young age like that. Like Mike Tyson. Like Mike Tyson. He'll talk openly about it, man.

I mean, now, have you hung out with Mike at all? No, I was supposed to this week, but he's busy. So, another time. I look forward to it. Dude, let's do the hot box together. I would be happy. For real? Yes, I'm in. I'm in.

Dude, he's a nice guy, man. And he's so philosophical about his past. And the way he's very... This is garbage. Yeah. Garbage. Yeah. I don't even like to think about who I was back then.

He doesn't like to even think about who he was. He doesn't like to work out. Yeah. Because he doesn't want to bring that ego back into his life. But then you see him with Francis Ngannou when he's ripping. I know. Yeah. He still got it.

He still got it. Listen, man. Yeah. But apparently he's going to train Francis. Yeah, he said. Yeah. That would be interesting. Apparently Gypsy King is going to do MMA.

I'd love to see it, man. Once he gets that first leg kick he's gonna be what the fuck have i done you bet no you better well get it before you get in the cage i'll say that did you ever see shannon the cannon briggs talk about when he fought uh when he fought in k1 i listened to that oh my god he's like that first leg. I was like, champ. Oh, no, champ. Didn't he spar? I don't think he did. I don't think he did. He thought, I'm going to just take this and knock him out. He fought Tom Erickson, big cat. He was a big motherfucker. A natural 290-pound dude.

Natural. Oh, he's gigantic. Erickson was huge. That's a lay. We haven't got our gym. He was huge. Carlos Alberg, beautiful, built motherfucker. He kicks, because he's Samoan as well.

I think, yeah, full Samoan. He kicks and, man, you don't want to hold pads for him. If you have to hold VO2 max kickboxing for him, he can break arms, man. I'm sure. He used to be a boxer. He only just learned how to kick. And now I've been watching him. He's turning his hip over.

He's also a former King of the Ring champ as well. Current King of the Ring champ. But, like, literally, he, yeah. Bones. They got different bones. Bone, muscle, and you don't want that. I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu way back in the day in the 90s, and I watched Pedro Hizzo kick the bag.

Yeah. And he just. There it is. Pedro Hizzo was kicking the bag. Pedro Hizzo's legs are both of my legs glued together. They're so big. His bones. I've seen him, man, even now.

Even now. Even now. Still thick. But he was, in my opinion, the best heavyweight in the history of MMA, the best heavyweight leg kicker. Wow. He would throw leg kicks and everybody would collapse. My one is Anthony Hardunk. Oh, yeah, man. Hardunk was a master.

What I used to like was his hip. He used to swing that hip. Oh, yeah. It's a different style, Dutch style. Yes, yes. But I do mind. There's many types of leg kicks. People don I do mind There's many types of leg kicks People don't know

Like there's many types of jabs There's levels to this And he had this one Where he'd like Swivel his hip Like he'd almost Just like a barbie Like take his leg

And just Yeah Almost like a Low Brazilian kick Yes Almost like a Fetosa kick Yeah

But low Fetosa did He did the question mark kick Better than anybody. Who's that? Remind me. Glaube Feitosa fought in K1. Okay.

Go to Robin Black's Twitter page from today. He posted a Glaube Feitosa KO. Glaube, I mean, everybody knew the question mark kick, right? You go up the middle and then you go around this way to a head kick. But Glaube would go up and down in this crazy way. Like his hips swiveled. He had the dexterity of that down in just this crazy way. Because you would have your hands up in a good position.

He would come over your hands and drop down on your face at an angle. I've done that before in sparring. This is years ago. I won't say to who. Did you see it on Robin's page? hands and drop down on your face yeah at an angle i've done that before inspiring just like this is years ago i did i won't say to who did you see it on robin's page he retweeted it earlier today he retweeted his own shit which is hilarious whenever you do that it's like when people at you in your own comment i'm like that's my page why you gotta at me i don't know it doesn't mean anything but just fucking pet peeves i'm 100 giving up on reading my ads i don't i don't read a goddamn thing that comes my way you're just just spitting into the wind yeah come once in a

while like if fight week is when i have time the best one was new york new york i get there early and this guy was already bugging me for because you see like in the notifications when you you scroll up i'm like this guy again so i was like all right i got time today boom i went at him man and i remember some fan some fan and he was just like what was that you know hey israel and i like Again, so I was like, all right, I got time today. Boom. I went at him, man. Who was this? Some fan? Some fan. And he was just like, hey, Israel. And I went in his DMs, and I started going back and forth with him. And I screen recorded the interaction.

And then eventually after the fight, I think maybe about two weeks after, I roasted and posted him. He changed his Instagram name. And shit got reported. I was like, oh, one person to fuck with. Like, Dana, sometimes if I got time today, I got time today. And shit got reported I was like Oh One person to fuck with Yeah Like Dana Sometimes if I have If I got time today I got time to

Like Jon Jones Same thing One day I just went at him Because he was just going Back and forth on Twitter He was going forth And I just kind of ignored him I was living my life

And like sometime two weeks ago I was just like You know what Hold my beer Well he's not coming He's not coming after you Unless you're a threat Yeah exactly

There we go So no Watch the video. Play the video. Fatosa. There it goes. Now watch this left kick, man. Dude.

And then he does the shokushin. I've seen that before in the K-1 Ultimate Knockout Highlights. But watch the motion of the kick when Robin breaks it down. Sweat this. Look at this. Watch this. The final part. Watch this shit.

Right here. Watch this. Come on, son. Come on. Who the fuck does that? down sweat this look at this watch this the final part watch this shit right here watch this come on son come on who the fuck does that globby is the master of the question mark kick to the point where they call it the brazilian kick man i mean but he almost did it different than a question mark kick because essentially he was making it look like he was throwing a body roundhouse kick he wasn't like the real question mark kick is like a front kick that you turn into a round kick. But Glabbe was throwing it like he was throwing it to the body, and then last second, look at this shit.

Right here. This is my favorite part. I mean, this is like a whip. What's his background? Kyokushin? Yeah, Kyokushin. Look at this. Come on, man.

Went over the guard. Dude. He went over the guard and just like. Better than anybody on it. Better than anybody. And that, wah, that fucking. Yeah. At the end. Finish guard. Dude. He went over the guard and just like. Better than anybody at it. Better than anybody. And that, wah, that fucking. Yeah. At the end.

Finish off. Wah. Khabib had, I mean, he had a weird way of moving his hips that you go, man, I don't know how many people can fucking move their hips like that. Shakira. Yeah. The hips don't lie. Never.

Yeah. That was a, I mean, sometimes someone just develops a way of doing a kick that's, like, different than everybody else. Yeah. Even now, like, Eugene likes to make fun of me. He's like, you're getting old. I'm like, why? He's like, it takes me about a week for my hips to warm up before the kick starts to, like, happen the way it normally should. I'm like, fuck it.

So he goes back and forth with me on that. But I'm getting into it. I've been doing yoga for a while. I kind of slacked off A little bit This camp But off season I'm going to get back into it

Just because I'm 30 now Only I don't really feel old though That's the thing Like you're supposed to Magically suddenly Sneeze and blow your back out

And all this shit That's when you're 40 Yeah okay When you're 40 Shit starts breaking The only thing I've noticed Is just the hangovers Take a whole day now

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Scientific concoction I will take that Yeah that'll help you Thanks sir Yeah man there's a lot Of little tricks That you can do To get rid of the hangovers

Glutathione's another one Glutathione is I've heard the name before Yeah it's I don't know what The exact term What kind of molecule It is specifically But it's Glutamine't know what the exact term, what kind of molecule it is specifically,

but it's a- Glutamine? What is glutathione exactly? Glutathione. But what it does is it helps your body break down alcohol at an accelerated rate. Yeah, and a lot of times people take it while they're drinking. Or if you're hungover, just drink some more. Yeah.

Because a hangover is just alcohol. But I don't drink that crazy though i'm not like an alcoholic or nothing well dr carl hart explained that to me yeah yeah he said that's where the hangover actually is is your body's withdrawals from alcohol that's why people say you know what's that expression uh something the dog that bit you was what is that uh bite the hair of the dog yes bite the hair of the dog that bit you. Yes. So when you're hungover, you have an extra. That's what Bloody Marys are for.

Bite the hair of the dog that bit you. The hair of the dog. Not bite the hair of the dog that bit you. But the hair of the dog that bit you. So you don't want the whole dog. You just want a little bit to get you over that hungover. And that's what Bloody Marys. Letting people out. Yeah.

Bloody Marys are like just a little drink in the morning. Yeah. Just a little bit with tomato juice and celery to pretend that you're fucking healthy. Celery. Mimosas at brunch. I don't know how dudes live in Vegas and train in Vegas. Yeah, fuck all that. Last time I was there, holy shit. So I was there in July for eight days.

The first three days, I did my testing at the PI. I was training. No drinking. Nothing like that. And then the MMA Awards happened. The next five nights. Fuck me. I just wanted to leave, man.

But you can't help it because you're in there and then it's just like, oh, yeah, cool. You want to come to this club? Yeah, we got VIP. Oh, we'll hook you up. That's where Jorge said he saw me at the club shirtless. It wasn't inside. It was outside. There was no women around me.

It was literally just people in the next booth. Boy just looks that way. And he kind of added a little flavor, you know, of what I said. But I didn't say, all I said was like, I know, you know, Yoel's your boy,

but I want to see him because he's a bad motherfucker. And I said, I want to fight all the bad motherfuckers of this era. And he's one of them. And he respected that. So respect to that. But I didn't say nothing about legacy and if I don't fight him. I want to fight him.

I've called him out. And even he put that other video. Why are you hiding? I'm like, I'm not hiding. I want to fucking fight you. I want that fight. I love you, man. I feel like that's the fight right now.

I mean, I don't see anybody. I mean, a rematch With Whitaker is hard to sell right now You starched him He's got to come back And do something That is the fight I think so

I think Yolo Romero is the fight Because Paulo Costa's got an injury He just had his bicep repaired Allegedly You don't believe me? You faked a surgery? Sips tea No but I just don't believe anything After Icarus man You faked a surgery? Sips tea.

No, but I just don't believe anything after Icarus, man. Like, after seeing everyone. I don't believe no one. That documentary fucked my head up. I saw that painting, man, out there with the Diaz brothers. Everybody on steroids. Everybody's on steroids. Everybody's on steroids. Shout out to Dose Brock.

Yeah, Dose. I met him. Yeah, he's a cool dude. He's a crazy dude, man. I like how he takes all his pictures with a little bandana over his face. I did one as well I put the bandana on And I took it too

And I was like I see you Ninja shit But um Yeah I don't know Like he can Heal up or whatever

But give me Yodamero Give me I said it I've said it I'll say it again I'm not ducking no one I ain't fucking ducking nobody Give me the fight

Yeah I don't understand The idea that he's lost All those fights So you can't have A fight for the title You talk to Dana Please Dana Listen to me

You can make that fight Everybody wants to see it 100% 100% of the hardcore fans Want to see it All you have to do Is show a Yoel Romero heart I will do a countdown for that

I don't do those anymore I will do it for that fight I swear to God I'll do it for that fight I look forward to the challenge man That's the thing I want that fight I want to see it

I want to see it Because he's I got to find his neck He's a unique challenge Past those traps I want that fight. I want to see it. I want to see it. Because he's- I got to find his neck. He's a unique challenge. Past those traps. I want to find his neck. It's a solid pommel. It goes right into his brain.

Misha. Misha Surkinov. I'm telling you, my Peruvian necktie is tight now. I thought I knew what it was. I thought I had it before. Because I used to get it like maybe 30% of the time. Yeah. My man showed me some shit.

And he also showed me- Because you see the Gaston fight. Do you know where that came from? Peruvian necktie? No. Tony D'Souza. Oh, yeah. Yeah, D'Souza invented it.

I think he invented it. Because if he didn't invent it, he fucking nailed it. And so it became the Peruvian necktie. I want to rename it. D'Souza was a beast. If I catch that like that. D'Souza's one of the lost beasts. Yeah.

Like, I used to love watching that guy fight. Fucking Peruvian motherfucker with a big, thick beard fought like a savage. Sure. Tough as shit. Tough as shit. I look him up. Tough as shit. Tony D'Souza. People forgot him, but they sleep on him.

There's so many great fighters from the old days that get slept on, but Tony D'Souza is the one. Sort of like the Von Fluh choke, because Jason Von Fluh, but I think you've got to rename that the OSP. I want to rename the Peruvian once I do what OSb has been doing because even like um i've got one as well i think he invented the peruvian necktie i think the suza invented it yeah he's credited as the uh modified guillotine choke yeah yeah i think he invented it what it is is for people don't know what we're talking about it's kind of like a sideways guillotine where you throw the leg over the head in the back it's nasty it looks It looks cool, man. Oh, it hurts like hell, too. I was doing it like this with this grip and then homeboy, Misha showed me

how to get deep and then hold it from here. Marcelo Garcia style. Yeah. Yeah. The Marcelo team. Yeah. Just throw the legs over

and it's so fucking nasty, man. Yeah, there's Tony. Tony D'Souza. Wow. Old school. Yeah, he figured it out, man. He figured it out and it's all about

that leg over the head, man. Once you got that leg over the head to accentuate the pressure. I can leg press heavy weight, some heavy weight weight so when you put that on the back of someone's head and you go yeah straight away it's a nice one a bunch of people have got it cb dollaways got it before a few other guys have got it yeah i saw cb dollaways one doberman i saw that one but there's um like in in the gaslamp fight in the last like 20 seconds I had a front headlock on him. And I thought about going for a dash choke, but I knew Eugene might yell at me.

So I didn't. Why would he yell at you? Didn't want you to grapple with him at all? No, no, no. Just because I had the guillotine, I had the triangle, but it was slippery. And also, I was already winning the striking. I don't want to end up like Frank Mir when he fought Noguera. Well, that was an interesting thing. When you did go to your back, you were throwing up triangles.

I was like, this motherfucker's dangerous off his back. This isn't a defensive guard. But I was like, he's attacking. But I kind of knew. I mean, even though I hadn't seen it, I know who you are. You're not going to be a guy who doesn't have anything off your back. You're not going to have a hole like that. You're going to figure that out.

And I'm still learning, man. I'm still a white belt. It took me five years to get my blue belt. Andre Garvelle gave me my blue belt, surprisingly. But I, man. I'm still a white belt. It took me five years to get my blue belt. Andre Galvao gave me my blue belt, surprisingly. But I was like, I'm still a white belt. Do you train with Galvao in San Diego? No, no, I haven't trained there. But he's come over, and we are affiliated with a school.

Oh, I see. And they have a program. They don't just give it out, but they have to vet them. And they have a really good relationship with my coach, Adam Johnson, my jiu-jitsu coach analyst and also eugene bearman so when he saw me rolling and stuff like that i think he was like oh oh that's great blue belt so yeah then i bought fuck yeah i was just surprised like to even get my blue belt that day but i didn't mind i was like fuck that's a nice white belt for life to get it from too yeah 100% yeah wow that's beautiful yeah and i was even looking forward to train with um gordon ryan and then When I was in New York

But fucking this thing Won't let me Yeah protect your knees man You don't want a fucked up knee No I don't want to roll with him Fuck all that Nah Nah I'm not rolling with him

Just like swap skills Nah fuck rolling with him Maybe later on But like Yeah Like I just wanted to swap skills Cause you know They know some shit

Like some shit about grappling That we don't know Well Donahue is a Legitimate genius Kiwi guy as well And he knows some shit You talk to that guy You look in his eyesue is a legitimate kiwi guy as well and he knows some shit you talk to that guy you look in his eyes there's a darkness in that guy's soul i saw him on the podcast when he's talking to you yes he's intense he's like professor x i was just gonna

say that he's like the real live professor x dude he's he's spooky smart too spooky smart so i was gonna swap some skills with um gordon with Gordon Ryan and what's his name? Gary Tornen. Gary Tornen. Whatever else. But like, it'll be cool. Eddie Cummins branched off. He's got his own gym now, but he's another master. Yeah.

You know, those guys are that whole, it's really interesting what happened out of that whole gym. That gym really, that was the epicenter of the revolution. They sort of started this whole leg lock revolution in Jiu Jitsu. What did Dean lister say why would you ignore 50 of the human body boom and then donna her was like that's the that's the switch why would you that's the scene that was it that was the scene i mean it really was because dean lister was tapping people with leg locks and heel hooks back when you would get booed

you know i remember i saw dean lister compete in abu dhabi in sao paulo brazil in 2003 you know and there was there was not there yeah yeah it was here because eddie bravo fought hoyler gracie that's right you said so i flew over with eddie and um i'm not crazy dude i've never been so happy in all my life even the last fight he had with um who was it uh which gracie was it the last fight eddie he fought hoyler again hoyler yeah that's right yeah he had him in that split thing. Hoyler did wooden tap. He had him in what's called the, what is it called? I don't know all the 10 planet names.

It's so much. But yeah, he had his legs like this, and I could see his groin about to tear. Well, his knee was fucking, I forget. It's some nuclear word. I forget the word he used for it. Vaporizer. Vaporizer. That is it.

That's it. I it that's it i knew it was in there somewhere dude he was ripping hoyler's knee apart and as a person who's had three knee surgeries i was watching him i was like please just tap just tap it ain't worth it he wasn't gonna tap it's the pride but he wouldn't tap it with anything remember when he fought sakuraba sakuraba had a in a deep kim way behind his back. All up like this where it looked like his joints were ripping apart. He wouldn't tap and they stopped the fight. They stopped the fight. They have to.

Well, they didn't have to. Let him get his shit ripped up. Maybe like some Shinya Yoki shit. Remember when Mir did that to Noguera? Oh, bro. Snapped his arm. Same shit. It's just like, boom, pop.

There's that moment where it's just like, fuck it. It's going to go. Frank starts looking at his arm like this. I mean, Minotaur's looking at his arm like this. Like, oh. Is it on? Yeah. I mean, his arm's never the same again.

I mean, when you get that upper arm snapped, like, god damn, that's a bad arm. That guy's a guy. He fights like a zombie. He's the original zombie. Here it is. He don't go. This is, Eddie is tearing his fucking knee apart. I mean, if you don't, if you've never experienced what this feels like, I've only experienced

it a couple times. It's a terrible feeling, man. It's a terrible feeling. It's hard to explain what's going on here. Oh, wow. Yeah, his knee. You can see that. Yeah, it's sideways and being mangled by.

Oh, fuck all that. And he's just, And Eddie said it kept popping and Hoyler's just dealing with the pain. Like right there. That's deep. Oh my god. His knee is tearing apart. That's mental fortitude, man. Oh man, that whole family. That whole family's savages. I mean, there's never been a family that's

revolutionized martial arts the way the Gracie family did and Hoyler was the most successful of all the Gracies. When it came to competition he was a multiple-time world champion of course he is look at his fucking knee man Eddie Bravo's mangling his knee and he won't tap and Eddie's telling him just tap man he's like it's fine it's normal he's like dude your leg just popped five times he's like it's normal like he's tapping it again Eddie's got him wrapped up nasty and this is some shit Eddie invented this is what's

crazy about all of this. I mean, Hoyler, to his credit, just rather get his knee torn apart than lose. When's the last time the Indian came out? Eddie? Probably a couple hours ago. Man, you got to have him back on, man. He's funny. I love him. I love that guy.

Especially on the flight companions. We were just talking on the phone the other day, and I was driving to this area where the cell phone was about to cut out, and he was telling me some crazy conspiracy. Oh, no. And I was like, bro, bro, bro, I love you. I got to go. My phone's about to cut out. I love you, too, man.

I'm sorry I chewed your ear off. I love to be in one day. He's so crazy. Yeah. Oh, my God. He loves conspiracies. He loves conspiracies. It's like his family, number one, jujitsu, number two, conspiracies.

What's the new one? Maybe his friends, number three, and then conspiracies. I'm staying in a camera shop. Oh, everybody. Look into conspiracies what's the new one maybe his friends number three and then conspiracies oh everybody look into it everybody's into that see i don't know too deep about it but even fucking a chimp could tell you my dog marshall could tell you look man that guy bill clinton flew with that guy 26 confirmed times. 26. It might be 28, but 26 confirmed times. I read that. I'm like, bro, I didn't even follow up with my mother 26 times.

How does this guy fly with Bill? Bill Clinton flew with a pedophile 26 times over the period of just a couple of years. Fuck Island, they called it. Fuck Island. That's what everybody else called it. All right. How to defend against suicide. I'm loving these memes, man.

Yeah, they snapped that guy's fucking neck, man. Is that Eddie? Oh, of course. Another one. They snapped that guy's fucking neck. They said his neck was fractured. How can you do that from hanging yourself? You can't.

How do you hang yourself in jail? It'll come out eventually. Dude, even Michael Shermer, who's like a professional skeptic, he's the editor of Skeptics Magazine, he said it was probably a conspiracy. Even him. He said, what, the cameras are down? The cameras weren't working. What?

They just happened to shut off at that time. Come on. Get the fuck out of here. They killed that dude. They killed that dude. No one's talking about it. No, everybody's like On the news

What I mean there's that leak Where that ABC reporter Was saying that ABC squashed the story Three years ago That was Just got released

I saw it on Hillary Was on Trevor Noah And he kind of asked her Yeah he joked around with her Yeah but she laughed about it Yeah I was like oh

I thought it was one of those What do you call the thing The deep fakes But it was real No Well here's what's crazy She knew that guy Yeah

She knew that guy And that guy Was most likely Murdered in jail And she was laughing about it Yeah Like cause Trevor Noah said How did you kill Jeffrey Epstein

Yeah But they were cool And she's like Ha ha ha ha ha But that's like Imagine if you knew someone Like and your husband Was flying around with that guy. And this is like someone you know.

You got to know pretty well. Like, you've hung out with him at cocktail parties. Like, you know, like maybe you've known him for years. And then that guy gets murdered. And then somebody asks you, how'd you murder him? And you start laughing. That's weird. You got to be a cruel, heartless person to think that's funny

that's weird joke about it that's weird she did the same thing with when the qaddafi stuff that was even that was different though because that wasn't a joke yeah she said we came we saw he died but that was someone that wasn't her friend right that's someone who wasn't her friend right this was someone who she knew, and Trevor knows. And listen, the way The Daily Show works, for sure, they told her. They told her beforehand. Yeah, I was like, they couldn't have sprung that on her. No way.

No way. You don't spring shit on Hillary goddamn Clinton when she's on a commercial show. Yeah. So she would be ready for that, and then like, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. And she's got to know you respect her. I mean, there's no way she's coming on that show unless she knows everything's going to be okay. So when they brought that up and she started laughing, she knew that shit was coming.

I guarantee you. Guarantee you. Guarantee you. They're not free-balling on that show. It'll come out later on. I'm sure it'll come out later on. Some people know too much, man. Yeah.

Way too much. It probably will be one of those decades later things we find out, you know, that some guy on his deathbed says he killed Epstein because Clinton paid him off. You know, who the fuck knows? Who knows who, that guy, who knows what that guy knew? I mean, that guy, that guy was a professional blackmailer. You know, I don't know who he worked for. I have no idea.

Probably there's more. Like, fuck on him, I'd just be the tip of the iceberg. Fuck yes. There's probably a whole shitload of things we have no idea about. Fuck yes. I have no idea. Probably there's more. Like, fuck, I might just be the tip of the iceberg. Fuck yes. There's probably a whole shitload of things we have no idea about. Fuck yes. I'm surprised all that

kind of stuff gets into politics as well with like, sex trafficking and whatnot. It's like, really? Well, I think,

you can get a guy like that. Like, here's a lot of these guys. This is my thoughts. A lot of these guys are freaks and then they're in the

public eye so they have to maintain proper position. We know Bill Clinton during the 90s in particular, there's no internet. He was fucking like A lot of these guys are freaks, and then they're in the public eye, so they have to maintain a proper position. We know Bill Clinton, during the 90s in particular, there's no internet. He was fucking like a, just fucking up a store, and he was a wild man. And, you know, and there's a few alleged rapes. Alleged.

Yes, alleged sexual assaults. I like my new favorite words. Alleged, alleged. I mean, I don't know. I wasn't there, but there's women that are accusing him of sexual assault and rape. So you got the Monica Lewinsky things. You know he's a freak. He's getting his dick sucked by 20-year-olds in the White House. I didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman. And then when they bust him, he's like, well, as to what I thought sexual relations were. But you got to think, there's a lot of those dudes out there yeah that's why they get into politics in the first place they're all in their 60s so they got into politics in the fucking 80s and the 70s they got into politics because they wanted to fuck they wanted to be the king they wanted to be the guy with all the power they wanted to be the alpha and so then all of a sudden the rules change because of the internet so then they got to figure out oh my jesus I can't do anything anymore.

What the fuck? That's why they all are dying now. What do I do? So what they do is they find a guy who's going to take them to an island where there's no rules. Hey, man, Jeffrey Epstein's got this place. He brings in these girls from Czechoslovakia and they suck your dick until your head explodes. Let's do it. Woo!

Next thing you know. It's a party. You're on the fucking boat headed to the island with clinton you know what a lot you had an island where do you get that island no one knows i don't know how you buy an island you don't the fucking intelligence agencies give you money they give you an island they set it up someone from some agency whether it's massad or cia or whoever the fuck it was they had a concerted effort, most likely, to try to bring these creepers, bring them over there,

tempt them with pussy. Extain them. And he know how to do it. I think they probably do it as well as having shit over them. Yes. So that way they can have like- They can get them to do things for them. Exactly.

Decisions, bills that need to be passed, fucking drones that need to be launched. Can't they give a shit like Example the The marijuana reform I'm like look We all agree now Like you know Everyone smokes

Everybody You know like Not everyone But like everyone's doing it So They're gonna legalize it Can't they just have like A group chat or something

And be like Okay all opposed Say nay All for it Say aye Why does it have to take so long For something like that Well the concern

Is pharmaceutical companies Have a massive concern about loss of income. That's a big one. 100%. Even in New Zealand right now, it's taking so long to get pushed. And I think they're at the tail end of it. They can't hold back anymore. It's going to fucking burst. It's going to burst.

That's what it is. It's going to burst. They can't hold it. But it's those people have to set up their own businesses and whatnot. So that way, when it comes through, boom, they're first in line to cash in. The most egregious example of that is what happened in his home state of Ohio. Ohio. Tell them a story about what they did.

Well, I've actually been, since we brought that up the last couple of days, I've been reading that was like some misinformation. And that's not exactly how it even is. What? So I don't know. I'm not there, so I don't know the exact... But the bill was making it so that only a few companies... I think that's the one that didn't pass a few years ago, and the one that passed has got different stuff.

Oh, no, no, I know that. But the one that was proposed, the most egregious example, they proposed a bill to legalize marijuana, but no one could grow it, only a couple companies could grow it, and they would make all the profits. Why? Exactly. So no one can grow it. Well, it's just grow it, and they would make all the profits. Why? Exactly. So no one can grow it.

Well, it's just a horse shit. And by the way, this is forever. They were like, for life, bitch. Really? For life. Yeah, their idea was that they were going to monopolize the state of Ohio. Corner of the market. That's all bullshit, man.

And everybody was like, fuck you. We'll wait. We'll wait, bitch. I like when I went to Muscle Farm. I was in Denver. What do you call it? Muscle Farm. What's the name of the team?

Like, Dillashaw's team. Team Elevate? Elevate, yeah. Like, right next door is this big hangar. And I'm not a scientist, but the smell in the air. Were they growing skunks? Bro, literally, I was just like, they're growing weed. 100%.

Like, literally, the smell, I was like, yeah. And it's now minty man Yeah I love the smell Oh it's a beautiful smell Warren Buffet's company And the weird thing as well Is like

As a kid Cause of what I was told And what I was perpetrated Whenever I'd smell Either beer Cause I didn't used to drink Till I was like Till I found bourbon

I don't like beer Long story But then I didn't drink Or did anything I was a goody boy You know I still am Good boy

But Once I smelled Weed or beer or, it reminded me of homeless people. Like, oh, you're dirty. Because of what I was taught as a kid. But then as an adult now, I'm like, where the party at? Yeah. Want to relax. Think different.

Chill, bro. Yeah. Relax. Well, weed is a great one, man. Because it makes people more comfortable with each other. It makes people friendlier. It's sort of i only smoke around certain people like i don't that's just for me personally because i if i don't feel comfortable like if you know you can get into a situation i'm just like why is that guy on his phone because sometimes you see people like this is the worst

one man now these days people are just like this and then they just you see their phone just right you know they're filming you yeah i'm like why is your why are you texting this way you ain't gotta text this way it's so common it's weird man i'm sure you get it all it's all the time i would love to do deep bong hits around donald trump yeah i'm like bro you don't have to smoke just hang out in the room let's see what's up just you could probably take a beat now about these kids in cages But even just talking to him High as fuck Would be weird

Like bro Why don't you just quit Come on man Just get out He's one of those guys He likes the game He likes the game I'm sure he does

He's my favorite comedian Of this year man I follow him on Twitter Just cause of the shit he says Like it's fucking hilarious man You can't not respect it He says some funny shit For sure

One of the funniest things He ever said Was when he put When he was thinking About buying Greenland And he put a picture of trump tower because i promised not to do this trump tower in the middle of greenland i was laughing my ass off that's funny donald trump has reportedly discussed making the apprentice white house holy shit ratings can you imagine if he turns the white house into a set for a reality show. That is a set. Holy shit. Holy shit.

Who's that dude? That's producer Mark Burnett. Oh, that's Mark Burnett. He's buddies with him. See, I knew him from The Apprentice. I watched the first two seasons when I was a kid. You're fired. Yeah.

I remember that. That's his move, man. Yeah. I've heard some other things after that. You said you were going to do that, but you didn't do it. Well, they offered it to me when I was hosting Fear Factor the second time around, which was like 2011. But I talked to my family, but I didn't want to well they offered it to me when i was hosting fear factor the second time around which is like 2011 but i talked with my family but i didn't want to live in new york for three months and all that nastiness i was like i'm not interested i'm not interested you

know i don't want to pull my kids out and have them go i just didn't want to raise hair yeah it just didn't seem like a smart thing to do it just seemed like something i'm going to be annoyed with i didn't want to be angry at anybody. I'm just not that guy. I can't do those. I have to feel that way now, man. It's months and months of your time.

For me, it's like, I want to get fighting now. After my fight, I kind of like, because we're in Marvel Stadium, I kind of said

something about Marvel, like, you know, I'll see you guys soon or whatever I said. But after fighting, right now, like I said, they're coming for me. So I got to make sure

I don't wanna end up Like some others in this game Where they get distracted And look at Hollywood And the shot So I get some offers Coming to my table right now And I'm just like

Yeah nah Those cautionary tales They're so readily available For you to consume Look at Ronda Rousey Ronda Rousey's the best example She's on top of the fucking world They all came coming

And she said yes to everything She was doing everything man She was doing movies She was doing interviews She was writing books She was doing And you know One thing you gotta give it

To Conor McGregor I mean Conor McGregor Said no to all that shit When he was on top He said no to all that shit I've learned from her From him From John

From Silva From everyone Like I've seen the highs And the lows of this game man And like I said I'll make my own mistakes But guess what? I'll bounce right back.

I always will. But it's better to learn from the mistakes. You'll make less the way you're approaching things. You will. I know me. Actually, Eugene. He sees me every day. Like that's why sometimes I'm like, the same rhetoric.

I'm your biggest fan. Oh, you inspire me. I'm like, I appreciate that. If you can take inspiration from the story that you've seen through TV, through media, fuck yeah. You know, go hard. I'm sure. Is it weird still seeing your face on people's stomachs? Very strange.

Yeah. Like there's a guy, I was in Dillon. Shout out to Dillon. He's got my face on his thigh. I met him in a club in Auckland. And yeah, I flew him plus one to my last fight just because I was like, fuck.

Good for you. I'm like, I gotta have to tattoo his face on my thigh now. I don't know. That would be a thing. If you get a stylebender tattoo, you get a free ticket

to your style defense. Don't put it out there. Don't do it. How many people do you think would do that? These crazy motherfuckers would do it just for the low. Just like,

oh, I did it. And just for the free tickets is right asanya the last album incorporated i do not agree with the sentiments of jorgen in the last speech we would have to do it at your own risk how about this we'd have to prove that you got a tattoo of style better before this day before this day yeah so this is like you can't do it there's only two there's only two i can't remember the other guy's name that's what you know you only know about two actually three there's only two. I can't remember the other guy's name. That's what you know.

You only know about two. Actually, three. There's one chick from somewhere in South America, the Brazilian girl. Oh, shit. I can't remember her name. She just got stylebanned on her arm. How does she look? She's all right.

I can't remember her name, but shout out to Mamacita. If you were fucking a girl who had your name tattooed on her, that's dangerous moves. That's dangerous moves. That's dangerous moves. That's Russian roulette right there, son. What if a chick has like maybe your face on her back or something and some guy's hitting her from the back and he's just like, what the fuck is this? That's rough. It's a third eye looking there. That's rough.

A girl with your name on it though, if you met up with a fan Who had your name tattooed Or your face tattooed on her That's risky That's Russian We met with four bullets I make sure people are around For that one Yes Everybody

Allegedly I don't want to catch No Bill Cosby So I have my hands When you take a picture You're just like You do the Keanu Reeves Do the air float

The floating hand Yeah Catch no Bill Cosby I know they're coming man I know Because I've already Foreseen everything That's kind of happening And I know this kind coming man I know Because I've already Foreseen everything That's kind of happening

And I know this kind of shit's coming So I just have to make sure You know Like Addison says Stay focused You know Dog my eyes Cross my T's

Make sure they don't Catch me slipping Well you're looking at it The right way Because you realize That right now You're at the This

It's like a funnel Right You're at the Opening of the funnel Where it's just Going to go The options Because you're

you know you're newly crowned as the champion and as you defend the title and start murking motherfuckers and become bigger

and bigger and bigger and then the UFC puts you in more and more promos your pay-per-views sell more and more you become an international star then it gets crazy

then you can't go anywhere and people are screaming when they see you walking to a restaurant even after my press conference in Melbourne before the fight, after the press conference, the one that the guy with the megaphone was fucking with me on after that night. What was he doing? I'm sure someone planted it because even I asked Robert after, did you pay that guy?

He's like, fuck no. I was like, you should have because he had a megaphone. And the whole time he just kept on interrupting me. And I was going back and forth with him. But I liked it, because guess what? If he wasn't there, it would have been a boring press conference. Because Robert's not going to say shit. He backtracked already.

But after that press conference, I lit up in the alleyway, spoke up. And I walked around Melbourne with my AirPods in. And I just walked around the city. And at one point, I just sat at a tram stop, because I can just sit there. And people were just going back and forth. And I could just sit there and look at one point I just sat at the tram stop Cause it didn't So I can just sit there And people were just Going back and forth And I could just sit there And look normal

And just like Soak it all in Cause I know eventually I won't be able to do shit like this After my debut in Perth Did the same thing After breakfast the next day Just walked around

Just enjoying the view Enjoying just being me Cause I'm not saying I'm gonna blow up But I know I'm gonna blow up So I know Yeah You're gonna blow up

Like ISIS Yeah you gotta You just gotta Understand what it is, and it's going to get confusing. And what you said earlier about fame is very, very smart, that you said no one really tells you how to prepare for that. What about you? How did you deal with it when you were young?

I got a slow drip. I got fame at a slow drip. Yeah, I got a tolerance for it because I became, I was on television in 1994, and nobody knew who the fuck I was. I was one of eight people on a not so successful sitcom. It was a great sitcom, but it was not so successful. And then I had a couple little television gigs on standup comedy shows,

but nothing big. And so I would, I could like kind of sell a weekend at a club, but I had to do morning radio i wasn't famous but i was a little bit known and then fear factor came along that was a big jump that was a big jump yeah that was a big jump that was a big jump because then i was on a giant hit television show that was iconic was on for six years 148 episodes it was a family time that was a big jump but then there was um the podcast which came after all that and the podcast was like a slow run it was like it was slow you were famous

before the podcast yeah yeah i was famous but then the podcast changed everything so how'd you deal with it from the big jump from you know just a comedian a comedian to fair factor guy how did you like i used to i just got used to it and i'm also like you in the sense that i don't i don't want to get caught up doing stupid shit i don't want to think about things the wrong way yeah you gotta get it what's going on she's your girl's in the window who that five more minutes is that what she's saying five do you have something a hard yeah they're working me in new york literally they're working you yeah off the chain like a runaway that's why i don't like publicist being around yeah i didn't know i didn't know she was gonna be here but i don't yeah she's at five minutes fuck fame is is a trick that works on other people but it shouldn't work

on you you gotta know who you are 100 that's the thing if it works on you you're fucked because it's like if you're a magician you really think you pulled a rabbit out of the hat but you're fucked now man you're living in a world of nonsense yeah i think one thing that helps is martial arts jujitsu helps like when you go get strangled all the time i hate that word man honestly it's so overused. And I've said it before. It's real. And I'm like, what's humble? Because I've asked, especially in New Zealand, there's this culture of people even like,

they don't like me because it's, oh, he's not humble like a true Kiwi. He's not like the all blacks, humble. And what they mean, and I've asked people this, what does humble mean? And someone said, oh, you just don't brag. I'm like, they just mean downplaying your success yes you know so if anyone like me rocks up and just i'm owning it i'm like you're owning it yeah i'm the champ i'm the man i'm being a champ you're him and they say oh no he's not humble but i tell you what humble is when i have dan hooker on my fucking neck hangman yeah humble is when i have ste Stephen Warby cracking me with an uppercut.

Humble is when I have Carlos kicking me in the body and making my liver go. That's true humility. But me trying to act, dull my shine just to make someone else feel comfortable. That's not humble. And I see that as a problem with that crabs in a bucket thing. that's not humble and I see that as a problem with that like crabs in a bucket thing when Kamaru was about to win the title a reporter asked me like you know oh there's a part of you whole hope that uh Kamaru loses so you can be the first Nigerian middleweight champion I was like fucking what what report so I

remember it's in the press conference actually I was like I don't think like that that that doesn't hate no no but that doesn't work yeah he was hoping I'd say something like that he was trying to get I see them I don't think like that That's clickbait No no But that doesn't work Yeah he was hoping I'd say something like that He was trying to I see them I've banned someone already Like I don't do any Interviews with them

If they talk to me I just Next You know that episode Of Black Mirror Where he blocks someone I've blocked him I would record with that

Yeah they take a cheap shot And they don't understand Like that's you man Now you're that guy That takes those cheap shots Yeah And everybody's gonna Remember that

Yeah I mean you think You're just trying to Make some noise, make a little pop, but you're creating bad energy for no reason. And also, you're trying to get something for now. You're not thinking of longevity. Yeah. Because in the future, I'm not going to talk to you now. What is it about Nigerians that, why are Nigerians so clever?

All these internet scams. Like when you hear about internet scams it's nigerians right nigerians come to america they're one of the most successful groups of immigrants in all you all the fucking countries hundred plus whatever countries nigerians murder it when they come to america there's something about there's a work ethic but there's also a cleverness yeah to nigerians like i've said it i've said it before i'm the runt of my people brain wise body wise because when i went back recently honestly man you see people who are just bricklaying and they are jacked they are ripped some of them and they don't maybe have

the best nutrition right no but they there's something about the genetics of our people it's a warrior race and i don't say that likely I'm just being honest Right It's different You know And I think also the culture Because I was doing algebra In school When I was like seven And then I went to

I remember when I first moved To New Zealand Form one I had to do form one In three different countries So I started form one I don't know What you guys have here

Form one Sound like first grade I don't know how it is But pretty much I was ten years old And I moved to Ghana For a little bit Not to repeat it again Then I moved, and I had to repeat it again.

Then I moved to New Zealand, and I had to repeat it again because they said, no, he's too young. He can't be doing that. But the thing is, I wasn't even the smartest. I was the bottom three in my class, so I wasn't the smartest of the bunch. In Nigeria? In Nigeria. So when I came to New Zealand, Form 1, remember my first day in school, they had a test, like early workout or something. One of the first weeks in school, and we had to do times table table and i knew the song in my head so i just like finished miss and then all the kids like

and i'm just like the fuck and then like they all thought i was this fucking savant this genius and then like this guy asking me questions like you know do you brush your teeth yes i do you know do you do like back home do you ride on lions and i went home and i was like mom these fucking kids are dumb like all these white kids are stupid like i didn't know i didn't understand i just thought like you know i do regular shit like i but they didn't understand me so yeah my people are different, man, honestly. And you've seen it. And I'm telling you, man, especially right now, what I want to do in Nigeria, I want to introduce them, like take the football, soccer ball out of their hands

and just show them some gloves. We have some great boxers. We have this thing called Dambe, which is Nigerian wrestling, kind of like the Senegalese type wrestling or some beast. But Dambe, you know, they wrap rope around one hand, just one hand, and they just paw with the other hand,

and they wrestle, and they throw strikes. But also they have like some juju, some black magic, you know, all that kind of stuff. Like they sprinkle that in there. I got my own as well at 3 a.m., you know, that's how it went.

But literally, I can't wait to like show them like, because when I went back, I was trying to just chill, low key, sneak into the country. But my dad said it can't happen. show them Because when I went back I was trying to just chill Low key Sneak into the country But my dad said It can't happen

They're watching you Everyone knows who you are From the airport All the area boys Israel this on ya Oh my god Can I take a photo Police officers

Showing what's up Showing love Crooked police officers Some of them But they're showing what's up Showing love And like I didn't realize

They stay up till 4am To watch me and Kamaru fight Wow They're staying up And I've strong love. And I didn't realize, they stay up till 4 a.m. to watch me and Kamaru fight. Wow. They're staying up. And I've always said I wanted to be the guy like what Pacquiao was to the Philippines. Yeah. The way when he fights, the whole country shuts down, crime drops, everything. I feel like after this now, it's going to keep blowing up.

And I'm going to go back next year. I'm going to go back next year. I hope they see the possibilities. Cause I'm telling you, man, the countries that, I mean, it was Brazil at first in the early stages of MMA, then Japan, then America, then, you know, like it always goes back and forth. And then, you know, the Oceania people right now, we're doing some work, but I'm telling you once, not just Nigerians, once the Africans, once they start stepping in, it's going to

be like when 50 Cent dropped in the club and killed the whole game for a while. Honestly, I'm telling you, they're going to run the game for a long time, for a long time. I'm happy to be a guy that's kind of paving the way. It's crazy, though. What was it like going back there, being the champ, going back there? It was beautiful.

Just seeing my people. It's different when you're in Vegas and, oh, my God, dude, I'm your biggest fan. Oh, my God. But it's different when you're in Vegas and, oh, my God, dude, I'm your biggest fan. Oh, my God. Right, right. But it's different when you see, like, a kid just in shock that you're even standing there. Like, just in shock that you're in his presence. And for me, I don't see myself as a style man.

I'm Israel. I did something at the end of the day. But when they're looking at you and just like, you know. And this kid, I remember, like, he was on my Instagram. He was kicking a bag. And I just showed him. I tweaked him. I just told him just to pivot on the foot, stand on the toes and turn the hip.

Literally within a minute, he improved his kick like that. And I got it on my Instagram somewhere. But man, I was really impressed. And that was just a little snippet of the creativity of our people. Look at that. The way. Oh man, this is going to make me cry. That's beautiful. This is my old primary school, man.

Like going back here, I was looking, i used to hide there for hide and seek and everything seems so small because when you're a kid everything's so big this is me at i think uh lecky beach just chilling with the people man i was immersed in the culture seeing all those kids with their uniforms on grabbing at your belt that's amazing honestly man it was like it reminded me of fuck goosebumps again it reminded me of this gym here goosebumps again. It reminded me of- What is this gym here? This is just the stadium. I went there to go watch. And then the guy, the trainer was like, Shay, you are not training.

I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, you are training. Get up. I was like, okay. I had my fucking nice Jordans on. And I just had to like work. He made, I think he was trying to flex. He was trying to show me like, I'm going to work you.

Right, right. And he put us to work. And that's me on holiday as well. This is Oakland State. Where is this video? Can people watch this? Yeah 100% Go on Instagram

Or go on EMG EMG What do you call it? EMG Access It says Israel the last stylebender Adesanya in Nigeria It's on the YouTube

EMG YouTube Engage Media Group That's beautiful man But there's some more We're doing a documentary right now And Jeff's been following me around Since 2015 And I want to like,

this is the, I want to say this is the end of the first documentary but the beginning of the next one, I want to show what I can do in Nigeria, what I can do in Africa because even,

Kamaru went to Makoko, we almost, well, not almost died there, we were in there with some killers. You see how that place, go back, Jamie,

go back. See how that place, go back, forward. It's like a maze, go forward. place Go back Forward It's like a maze Go forward Yeah see how that's like a maze Yeah

The first day we went there I went there Just trying to like Show love to the hood Say what's up And all this area boy is like Oh God what do you need to do here Like what are you doing here

And I'm like I'm just looking around Ah you kind of You must set to loss Like you got to settle them You got to make sure They're alright I was like don't worry

We'll look after you guys But then Within the first five minutes Me and Abiyola My friend who came with me He's like we got to make sure they're all right. I was like, don't worry. We'll look after you guys. But then within the first five minutes, me and Abiola, my friend who came with me, he's like, we got to go. Because he's very smart. He's very, very well. So we're like, all right. And I had a guy with an AK with me, a security guard. And the guys, the gangsters, they were kind of flexing.

And I was like, oh, fuck you guys then. So the next day, see, this is the asshole in me. I went there shirtless, all my chains on, fucking vest. And I got, like, more security with me with more ak's And we went deep we didn't have to go deep to get that sky shot and jeff hates me for it Because he fucking panicked the whole time And I went deep and there's all these killers man Like literally i'm talking like you see scars on them like marks because that's the bodies the body counts and shit like that

And this one dude looked like kimbo slice and he's like the the head honcho. And he was arguing with this other guy because they were saying like, no, I'm giving them the tour. What they give us is my money and I'll sell it to you. And he's like, no, I'm the big dog. You report to me. And they were kind of having an argument about it. And it was real heated.

And if they wanted to fuck us up right there and say, fuck you guys, that's a fucking maze. They know that shit like the back of their hand. I have no idea you know we're fucked and you're walking through it exactly and you're walking on planks and the water you saw the water

it's fucking dirty like disgusting you know but that's like one of the slums in Nigeria but then you see before the shot that was Victoria Island that's like the contrast

of Nigeria man you have dirt poor and you have well off like Lamborghinis like people living nicely those are all the guys on this side scam people yeah but they're smart as fuck yes and that's the email shit is so old now that's like

I don't know I'm not your uncle don't check your emails yeah I'm a Nigerian prince don't worry you get your money just wait it's just the the fees got to like, the way the bank account's set up, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's amazing that they figured it out to the point where that is synonymous with scams. It's like you saw them in Cheaters. Nigerian scams. Yeah. Yeah.

You hear about. And that's the thing. Like we're scamming, but a lot of them, it's because of the opportunity. They're so smart, but the opportunity isn't there. So they can't go to school. They can't do that so they'll hear about the guy who sold a fucking airport that didn't exist to japan really remember that one a nigerian dude sold a fucking airport there wasn't a real airport we're winning yeah i mean people do that with like buildings or airbnbs but that's a

fucking airport airport okay bro he sold an airport fuck the japanese are smart too man that's the thing yeah we we talked about it like a couple of weeks ago yeah it's bonkers like they they spent a fuckload of money it was like in the 80s or something the 90s oh really yeah they gotta make a movie about that oh they should here it goes 242 million fuck off sold a fake airport for 242 million how do you do that it's fucking nigerian man not like i'm saying this is like this is not the best representative by people but this shows you how smart well listen man if you're stuck and you got nowhere out and you're living in that maze that's the way out exactly you gotta do what you gotta do i understand why when i was in dubai i

don't know if i should say the story i was gonna a Fuck it No one's listening We're on the boat For someone's birthday party And I'm seeing all these kids Like 17 16 18 With like Iced out Rolexes

You know I'm on a yacht Partying for some guy's birthday And they're just out there Flexing And I'm just like What do you do? He's like

Oh I invested in Bitcoin early Da da da da I was like Uh huh Now Yahoo boy They call them Yahoo boys Cause you know But I knew already

But the thing is They're so smart They know how to work They know how to like And they're all over the world Like I said We're like a virus We're Nigerians are everywhere

Wherever you look in the world We're everywhere And we have our claim But I can't wait till this documentary man Like I really wanna like Show people Over there Like what we can do.

I want to show, first of all, the story. It's not going to be like, you know, McGregor's documentary was dope, but it was more catered to the MMA fans. And anyone can watch it, but I want this to be more like the soccer mom can watch it. Someone from the Burbs, someone from Alaska can watch it and still relate. So there's different levels to this, but I'm looking forward To really putting that out Are you thinking about Opening the gyms over there? In Nigeria yes

Yeah Eventually I wanna kit out some of the gyms Like the one I went to The stadium Sports stadium I was at I wanna help them out With some stuff

That's later on When I go through Right And normally I do things like this Like when I went there I did some stuff But I don't do it for like It's real weird

When you're on this platform And I see people trying to do shit for the likes. For me, I cringe because I can't do that. But when you have a platform like this and you can bring attention to certain causes and certain people, then I don't mind using my platform for shit like that. So I really want to bring some attention to my people because I feel like they deserve it, but also they can earn it. They can earn it. And I know they can, man. I can't wait to show them. I'm the first, man.

Kamaru's the first. I'm the second. See guys like Sadiq. First time I watched him fight live. Have you seen him fight live? Yes. Adelaide. I was watching him cage side

and he was hitting this guy with body shots. You could hear the, like the pounding. And I was just like, wow. And his last fight, he shot some like,

what do you call it, some fortitude as well because he got hit, he got cracked and then he cracked the guy and dropped him. I'm telling you, man, there's a few more coming

and I can't. It would be fantastic if you opened up a gym there and started being a proven ground. A chain of gyms. I really want to open a chain of gyms. Maybe it doesn't have to be

UFC gyms, but you know, they can get involved. Yeah. They can get a cut. Oh, well, UFC I'm sure would be excited about doing that now.

They see what's happening. Yeah, it'd be a great thing for them too. And UFC, I don't know if it's going to be in Nigeria, but UFC Africa, either Nigeria, Morocco,

or South Africa. Do they have good places to watch over there? Do they have it set up? Stadiums, 100%. But, thing is, the red tapes you got to cross.

I'm sure they can get through those. They had that in, the UFC had that in China as well. Right. At one of the shows, I can't remember which one. This is one of the early ones. They were threatening to cut the power after a certain time. So, you know, they had to settle some people to keep the lights on.

Keep the shackles on. Yeah, exactly. And that's easy for them. You know, the UFC, they got money. I've seen the apex building. They got a couple bucks. A couple, a little bit. Yeah.

Listen, man, you got to get the fuck out of here. Why? Thanks for coming in I know How dare they Well we did Two and a half hours Fuck off

You're lying It's 2.30 man Fuck off Yeah It flies in this room This is a time zone It is Like the

Hyperbolic time chamber Yeah Listen brother I'm happy with What's happening to you It's beautiful It's my pleasure Always my brother

It's great to see That you're doing Everything the right way man It's an honor It's an honor To have you in here and it's it's it's special for me to watch someone go through it's special to navigate it honestly you have no idea my old boss used to get mad at me because she'd be like get that out of your ear because i'd have like one headphone in and i'd just be like and then i'll do it on the side she can't see. So for me to have you, Brian Redman, I think Young Jamie was out here back then as well.

Was he? Way back in the day. But it was just cool just to be here and do this shit. Like, fuck, it's all manifestation. It's crazy. Keep going, man. That's how the world works. We in the matrix.

You're showing everybody, too, though. Exactly. Oh, man. All right, that's it. Respect, brother. Respect to you. Much love. Respect, Young Jamie. Bye, everybody.

Bye.