The Joe Rogan Experience - UFC Recap - Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo

Episode Date: December 22, 2015

Joe discusses some of the fights from the UFConFOX fight card from December 19, 2015, and other topics, with Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo.

Yes! We're live, ladies and gentlemen! This is, uh, if you tune into this podcast, and you're like, uh, this is a regular podcast, right? This is a UFC recap, so if you fucking hate the UFC, you're like, oh my god, fucking hate UFC. This is not, it might be the podcast for you, though, because we don't know. Like, we might start talking about the UFC, and it might, it could go anywhere. It usually does. These podcasts are, like, Fight Companion, companion we you always tell them that it's different and all that but all the podcasts like the same the last fight companion we only talked about the main event for like 30 seconds exactly we're talking

about everything sex and drugs and fucking friendship. Then it goes to decision. Oh, I got Darius. You didn't even fucking watch it. You didn't even watch it. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. I just started lying. Well, I watched that UFC on Fox. Oh, my God.

What a fucking card, first of all. Amazing. During the On It podcast. Oh, you guys did a Fight Companion. Yes. Oh, that's a great idea. People are doing that at other Fight Companions, like other podcasts are doing Fight other fight companions like other podcast. Yeah, they are fight companions. Awesome Why not?

Aubrey Aubrey his girlfriend Alex Jones did it. Yeah, they're amazing Alex Jones was on doing a fight companion with Aubrey and that's amazing. It was pretty crazy. God damn I gotta listen to that now. I go back and listen to that Dude, he is so impressed with you know, cuz we knew Aubrey before Arnie. Yeah. You know, and to watch him blow the fuck up is pretty insane. And, I mean, I was blown away. Because, for those of you that don't know, 10 Planet Austin, we had a grand opening. It's at the Honor Academy. And, man, I'd never been there when I was fucking floored, dude.

That place is gigantic, man. It's incredible. Holy shit. Yeah, Aubrey doesn't do anything half-assed. No, no, he puts his heart and soul and everything He's got a special knack for creating things and putting things together. He's an executive producer man Yeah, he puts he's good at it on everything. You go to dinner and it's like I never had a dinner like this Yeah, I was on a boat and there's just a hose everywhere. I'm like, never been on a boat like this. For reals. I'm like, dude, I've never been on a boat like this. That's like Ziggy Smalls type shit. He's like, this is how we do it.

His playlist is from the heavens. I'm like, can I have that playlist? He's like, sure. He's the best. He's just an unusual dude. He really is. Very, very unusual dude. Yeah, and so Alex wanted to do a piece on me

because he's got people that work for him that do jujitsu. Right. And so Alex found out do a piece on me because he's got people that work for him that do jiu-jitsu. Right. And so Alex found out that I was going to be there, and he decided to go down and interview. Dude, he had an InfoWars mic. Yes. He's sitting next to me during the invitational, during the tournament, which was fucking nuts. And he's right there. I was like, Alex Jones.

I was like, holy shit. It's pretty crazy. That is crazy. God damn. And, you know, him fell in love with Jiu Jitsu He was there for the whole place for the whole tournament wanted to stay stayed afterwards stayed for the podcast He was there for hours with that influence Mike. He wants to bring his daughters to Jiu Jitsu That's he wants to do Jiu Jitsu. I hope you know You know what he used to be ripped you ever see what he used to look like?

Dude, he was a stud. He wants to get skinny and ripped again. Why don't I know this guy? Alex Jones, infomercials, infowars, infomercials. He's the most popular conspiracy theorist. He's like the... Oh, yeah, I definitely wouldn't know. He runs...

Well, he used to be a radio DJ a long time ago. He's still kind of doing radio, but now most of it is on the internet. But he does a lot of it, I guess, on AM stations. I still think he's syndicated of doing radio but it's now most of it is on the internet but he does a lot of it I guess on like am stations I still think he's syndicated he does both right he does like the radio part and then he does because the the dirty part the internet part is when Joey came on and Joey was swearing you know you've seen that thing that's all on the internet that's all he's internet version yeah but he has a radio version too I just get his app and I just him anytime he's always going to want to and he's just been out conspiracy. Yeah, he's a conspiracy theorist guy like heavy-duty over-the-top

But he's been I've known him. I've been friends with them since 99 I did I did my I did a comedy DVD in Austin he and I put on Alex we put on George W. Bush masks. I was Bush younger and he was Bush older. He was Herbert Walker Bush and I was George W. Bush. Sounds awesome. And we ran around the fucking Capitol building

like where the state Capitol is in Austin and filmed it. It was just so retarded. Random shit. I became friends with him back then. We've known him for 16 years now. I bet you and him just get balls deep in conspiracy he doesn't we partied in vegas one week and joe took him out to the ufc he flew in and man he does not you would think that he was like dude we're out

partying let's not talk about conspiracy theories oh he's ready to go he's ready to go all day for sure he's got so much fucking information, man. It's incredible. You know? Yeah, he's a funny dude. Yeah, he's... I love that dude. That dude is so cool. I fucking... I could sit there and hang out with him for hours and just... Of course you could. You know what? I think people get the wrong impression. He's a genuinely good

guy. He's a really good guy. I'm sure. He's not just a fucking crazy wacko. Everybody thought he was crazy back in the day, but even the last time Joe was on his show on the phone, you said, man, all that stuff that people were accusing you of being crazy about, all that shit is coming true, Alex. You said that on the radio, like the NSA stuff. He was the first one. He was saying a long time ago that the NSA was going to be monitoring everyone's phone

calls and was going to be recording everything you do. People thought he was not true. They were like, you're out of your mind. There's no way that was going to be monitoring everyone's phone calls and was going to be recording everything you do. People thought he was not true. They were like, you're out of your mind. There's no way that's going to happen. Also, one of the big ones that I found out from him was he had this video called 9-1-1, the road to tyranny, I think it's called. And a lot of it was about Asian provocateurs. And what it's about is how they would go into a peaceful protest and they would send these

people, whether they're cops or soldiers, whoever the fuck they were. They were in government issue boots and they would send them into these peaceful protests. They would wear masks and they would just start smashing things. So they would pretend that they were a part of the protest. So they'd go in the protest. They'd smash storefronts. They'd smash car windows. Create havoc.

Then the cops would move in. They'd smash car windows. Create havoc. Then the cops would move in and In the case of the World Trade Organization these agent provocateur guys these guys that got hired to go in and start smashing shit They all went into a house and waited and then the cops waited outside They all negotiated nobody rushed in and took these people and then they eventually let them all go Like there was some sort of behind the scenes conversation Yeah, that's when they did it when they did it. They stopped the entire protest They made it a protest free zone and they were literally and this is all in the news They were literally telling people you couldn't go in there with a badge on if you had a badge that said

Wto on it with a line through it They were telling people you can't have that badge on as you go on your way to work Jesus You're not allowed to protest It was a protest-free zone. All because of these government agents. Now, I thought, like, there's no way the government actually does that. But it turns out, once I read that, or once I watched it, then I started reading about it.

And it's a common tactic. They've done it forever. It's technique. It's just like, there's a bunch of CIA whistleblowers, ex-CIA agents, John Stockwell, for once, YouTube search John Stockwell. He's written books. He says it's just techniques.

The way they set people up, the way they create patsies, they'll bring in some crazy, extreme, radical people, and they go, okay, you want to be in the CIA? Help us out. And they set them up. They got these dumb people that they always set up. It's called honeydicking. Honeydicking CIA style.

Government honeydicking. What they want to if they want government honeydicking what they'll do is like exactly what joe said they'll get like professionals to go in there cause some shit kill people i'm not making this up this is what john stockwell says they go in there and the more people they kill the more effective it is actually so what they'll do is they'll take professional like uh dudes that go in there and take people out and then they'll put their patsy in there Boom blame them put some shit on the fucking media They run the media anyways, and then they shoot those the patsies. We got him some crazy people Lee Harvey Oswald I mean, that's the Lee Harvey Oswald story. Lee Harvey Oswald was an idiot. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely an idiot

He was smart went to Russia. They set him up the whole time. He was a Set him up the whole time that guy was a knucklehead. They set him up the whole time. That guy was a knucklehead. He was involved. We are balls deep in conspiracy theories. We are already. Brendan, Brendan. He's getting ramped up, though.

Look at him. You know what it is? I get scared when he goes off. Hey, Brendan. Look at his face. He doesn't even listen to us. No, because when you mentioned Alex Jones and you'd never heard of him, and then when we said he was a famous conspiracy theorist,

you say, oh, that's why I don't know Mike. No, it's just because he doesn't get into that shit. Yeah, I'm not into that stuff. Powerful Alex Jones. Oh, shit. Still don't know him. What I was going to say, Eddie, when you were on your rant, is most people, they only know him from his broadcast,

so they assume that he's just like a crazy guy who just is constantly looking for conspiracies everywhere. When you hang with him in person, he's like a super nice guy. He's a great guy. He's super sweet. He's fun. He just doesn't shut up. He does. I don't know the guy. Hey, Brendan, all conspiracy theories are

the way shit really is. The way shit really is. Well, not every one of them. The problem is everybody looks for run. Well, not every one of them. Not every one of them. Not every one of them. The problem is everybody looks for them everywhere. Not every one. Just because not every conspiracy theory or rumor, whatever, is true, does that mean you just forget about the other ones?

No. Not at all. No, you don't. No, it doesn't. But there's something unbalanced about only looking for them. Well, no, no. I know dudes that all they care about is conspiracies. And they're so exhausted.

Again, conspiracy theories are theories on how shit really is run. Some people really like to know how their life, everything that these conspiracies, theories, all of them affect our lives every day. And so when you think about it like that and you start thinking about my life this life is all because as a big effect a big effect on my life with stuff like 9 11 and all these these events like these these shootings these all these false flag events our lives are effective wait a minute wait a minute what shootings do you think are false flag events oh man we can you're talking about sand you're talking about like mass shootings like the school shooting hey Hey, you know what? The teacher got fired for saying that.

Listen, to question, we already know they're all crooks. We know how they set up. Who's all crooks? The people that are really running shit. Okay, let's talk about Fox.

You know what I'm saying? We're going down this weird road. Okay, they're not crooks. Okay, I take that back. Some of them are crooks. Some are, yeah. The people that have

all the power generally are crooks. Not, I take that back. Well, some of them are crooks. Some are, yeah. The people that have all the power generally are crooks. Not every single one. Not every single one, of course. We're talking in general terms. Even if they're not crooks, one of the things that you'll find in government is they'll make laws that don't make any fucking sense and that are evil. And then they abide by those laws. To benefit them, correct? Yeah, there's a lot of crazy-

Financial gain. Here's a good one. The Supreme Court passed a ruling that allowed corporations to act as individuals. So they can essentially donate as much money to a campaign as they so choose. So if a corporation wants to elect a president, they can essentially bribe their way and get this person into the White House. That's insane. Well, it's nuts that they're allowed to spend any money. How about that? I agree.

It should be the opposite. It should be a person should be thought of as a person. An individual should be thought of as an individual. And a corporation should be thought of as a soulless entity, a group where people get together and work. It should never be thought of as an individual, like one thing that can act in its own interest, like it's alive.

To stay alive, it's going to bribe people to make sure it has the cushiest rules and regulations. So in that sense, yeah, those guys are crooks. Like, that's a crook move. You know what I started watching? It's really fucking good. Walking Dead. House of Cards.

I heard it's really good. It's fucking good. My brother loves that show. You would love it. You would love it. Because it's all about the president, and this guy becomes president. No spoiler alerts.

Kevin Spacey. And then you find out all the inner workings. And I was like, I'm not into politics. about the president and this guy becomes president no no spoiler alert Kevin Spacey and then you find out all the inner workings and I was like I'm not in the politics it's I just find it like it's like watching a fixed game of baseball exhaust I'm not it's boring to me it makes me angry it makes me angry that these are our candidates it makes me angry there's no one that's really saying something that really resonates with me everyone is saying something that's inside parameters of the Donald fucking so they they do this show and Kevin Spacey plays the president he shows all the inner workings of like how deals are made and how they negotiate

and all the behind the scenes stuff that sounds dope it's fascinating it's fucking good because it's really good good writing I keep hearing you would love it and I had to bring it up because I knew you would love it. And I almost forgot. A lot of CIA stuff? All sorts of crazy, deep, dark, undercover shit. You would love it. You would love it. You'd go crazy.

And, you know, probably a lot of it is the case. Like, who the fuck knows, man? Who the fuck knows? Maybe they paid Nate Diaz to go off on Fox. Maybe there's a conspiracy there. Maybe his manager got together with the UFC. What is everyone talking about? Diaz.

We're not talking about Dos Anjos. We're not talking about Overeem. We're talking about Nate Diaz. That was where I was conflicted. As a broadcaster, I'm so conflicted. Because as a Nate Diaz fan and as a comedian and as a fellow marijuana advocate, I was fucking howling. I wanted to go, yes, keep going, keep going.

They're fucking screaming in my ear, screaming in my ear. Cut him off, cut him off. Take the mic away, cut him off. That was the best post-fight speech ever. I'm not about to cut him off. I'm not doing it. It was great. I'm not pulling that mic away.

I'm not being the man. I love it. They were fucking screaming in my ear. Oh, I can't imagine. You're going to have to fire me. I'm not fucking taking the mic away from him. Whose idea was it to let him even get on the mic? Me, everybody.

You do. He won. He won and he looked amazing. I agree. He looked amazing. But we know it's fucking Nate Diaz. If I'm Fox, I'm like, all right, you can interview whoever you want. Don't give Diaz the fucking mic.

I figured they talked to him. Listen, he had a great fight. I thought he was going to be chill. I thought he was going to talk about Michael Johnson. I didn't know he was going to had a great fight. I thought he was going to be chill. I thought he was going to talk about Michael Johnson. I didn't know he was going to talk about Conor. I thought he was going to be chill. Dude, this is how badass Conor McGregor is. Three fighters called him out. Three dudes. Three fighters.

Three. You see his reply? Get on your knees and beg. He's standing in front of a convertible Rolls Royce. So gangster. I love it. He's so gangster. I love it. He's so gangster. That's the fight, though. Diaz is the fight.

Well, it's a very good fight. If I'm Dana White, I'm not saying what's the right thing to do. I'm saying if I'm looking for the biggest show, the biggest numbers, Diaz. Can you imagine that world tour? Oh, my God. What the fuck? And it's his first fight at 155, so he can sell that. Look at this. Line them up with their hands out

On their knees with their hands out. I want them to beg me. And he's standing in front of a Convertible that's a phantom convertible son. That's about four hundred thousand dollars for the car damn dude, damn This guy is so fucking unusual. He's so unusual. Three dudes called him out. But it's so crazy that in MMA, it took, what, 15 fucking years of MMA popularity? I mean, MMA's 20, what is it, 22 years old now?

What is it? When did it start? 93, right? 93. Yeah. So it's 22 years, right? That's not 22 years? We're both retarded.

Almost 24. Okay, so let's think about that. In that time, in the past, I'd say it's been really popular since the early 2000s, maybe? Not really, right? 2005. Okay, let's give it 10 years. So in 10 years of real popularity, this is the first guy that emerges like this. This first superstar, besides Brock Lesnar.

Brock Lesnar was pretty much a superstar, but it was a different thing. He was like a superstar coming over from the wrestling, so he just carried all those fans over that wanted to see if he could do it. And plus, you look at him, and you go, Jesus fucking Christ. Like, that's the guy that you would, when you think of cage fighting, you would think of a guy who looks like that. He's got a sword tattooed on his chest. It's not the best sword. It's not a good one whoever did that whoever did

that's an asshole but right when he left like you gotta see this dick i put on lesnar's chest it's great yeah but connor there's never been a dude like that just all of a sudden everyone's talking about him everyone's captivated i agree and he pulls it off that's the craziest shit he goes i'll knock he bet dana white that he would knock knock out Chad Mendes inside of four rounds. He wanted to bet $3 million. He called the round. He said second round. Yeah, he said second round.

What the fuck? Well, it's the same thing he did with Aldo. He said he was going to knock him out inside of two minutes. We laugh at it. It's crazy. He told Dustin Poirier, first world-class opponent. He's going, I'm going to knock you out in the first round. It's crazy, man.

And everybody's like, what? Meanwhile, crack. But there's some monster fights out there waiting for him. I just think if I'm Conor McGregor's manager and I'm doing what's best for his career, Frankie's a tough fight. I'm not saying he can't win it. Frankie's a very tough fight. And Dos Anjos is the toughest fight.

That's the toughest fight. But then you got Diaz in the middle at 55. Huge payday. Great matchup style for Conor. That's the toughest fight. But then you got Diaz in the middle at 55. Huge payday. Great matchup style for Conor. That's the fight I take. First of all, how good did Nate Diaz look physically? Best we've seen him look ever. Ripped.

Shredded. Full six-pack. Looked in tremendous shape. And didn't even come close to winding in that fight. I mean, they were throwing down in that fight. Johnson was beat. He got beat inside the cage. If you listen to his corner, they go, don't

quit. Stick with it. Don't quit. They're screaming at him. Don't quit. What the fuck? Henry Hoof says that sometimes to guys. He yelled that out to Rumble. When Rumble was getting beat up by DC, he was yelling, don't quit, don't quit. That is

not what you need to hear. Maybe someone needs to talk to him. He's a fucking fantastic kickboxing coach, but you can't even put that out there. That was never in my coach's vocabulary. Don't quit, how? You can't put that out there. You can't put that out there.

Do I look like I'm about to quit? He probably can't help it because it's probably what he's thinking. He's probably thinking, don't quit. True. When Michael Johnson in that fight could see you starting to break and they was sitting right in front just eating one twos when Nate was popping them and then doing this dude oh shit I just rang your bell he's just standing in front of him he goes oh shit he's pointing right at his face you can see Michael Johnson was

like I can't so frustrated happening because he shouldn't be there he shouldn't be staying from he's athletic. Yeah, she would use an angles using his wrestling He did none of it. I think people underestimated Nate Diaz That's what I horrible idea, but they he was a underdog in that fight like a pretty good underdog idiots again idiot Well, I just don't think anybody who made the line went and watched him train If you see how what a good shape he was in and how good his hands look Jesus Christ That's as good as he's ever looked. But before he fell out of the rankings, what was he, five? Before he took all that time off?

Yeah, but Dos Anjos beat the shit out of him a year ago. Beat the brakes off him. Yeah. One of the things that I was thinking about was how heavy he stands on that front leg. You know, he stands real heavy on that front leg. And Dos Anjos just lightened that leg up. Correct. He was lightening that leg up.

Because Nate fights southpaw, right? Mm-hmm. And Dos Anjos fights southpaw. So it opens him up to that back leg kick. He was just chewing up the outside of that fucking front leg. Conor would definitely be the favorite if they fight. It's a great fight though. Phenomenal fight. The shit talking. Imagine

the shit talking. Because Conor's not going to be able to go up to Nate Diaz and go, He's not going to be able to do that. But that might be a problem. Because Nate Diaz might actually punch him in the mouth. There's no way Nate Diaz is go no but that might be a problem yeah Nate Diaz might actually punch him in the mouth they might not there's no way Nate Diaz is gonna allow that no he'll wait for him in front of his fucking door in the morning yeah son yeah like he'll find out what room he's in and he'll wait in front of the door

and punch him in the face when he goes to get breakfast and you know what he really is so brilliant with his shit talking. What is he going to think of for Nate Diaz specifically? He goes real deep. He goes right to the core. He brings... It won't work on Diaz though.

I don't know what will work and what won't work, but I'll tell you what, no one has gotten Nate more emotional or no one has gotten Cowboy more emotional than Nate. When Cowboy started shit-talking Nate, knocked his hat, or rather, when Nate started shit-talking Cowboy and knocked his hat off, was getting in his face,

you could tell it was fucking with Cowboy's, like, his mind. He was really emotionally wrapped up in the first round of that fight. He talked about it. He's like, I'll never let that happen again. I got inside my head. I fucked up. But it's the fact that Nate can do that to you. He talked about it. He's like, I'll never let that happen again. I got inside my head. I fucked up. It's the fact that Nate can do that to you.

He's not going to do it to Conor. I wonder what it would be like to watch a fucking epic. That's why we need this fight. The greatest show would be just Nate Diaz and Conor McGregor. Just give him 30 minutes. Have a mediated open. Just let him go.

Overeem and Ben Rothwell in between them. Just for real. Just monsters. Just two big gorillas and let them talk. Tell Ben Rothwell and Overeem, look, you got a big bonus coming to you. Give them that Reebok money, son. Double the Reebok money. They would for sure fight.

Just don't let them kill each other. Double Reebok for both of you. How about, but Nate wants to fight. You just put a fucking fence right there and just let them talk. You just, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta somehow or another make it so they can't hit each other. You gotta say, listen, boys, there is millions of dollars on the line here. You have security. No, you put a fence.

You put a fence up and put them on either side of the fence and just let them go. No, that would be fucking crazy. Come on, come on. It's not a bad, It's not a bad idea. Just let them talk. Can you imagine the marketing? You have four badass security guards, all black, standing between them while they're talking.

No, you don't need to. All black, black uniforms. Easy, easy. I don't care. Can we get some Hawaiians? Big Samoans. We'll fucking snatch them in half. Those are the scariest ones because they don't get hurt.

I agree. You can't really hurt them. It's like Mark Hunt. How about you put them on a phone like in a prison? Mighty Moe when he was in his prime. How about you put them on a phone like they're in a prison, you know what I mean, with a glass and they just talk to each other on the fucking phone? That's not a bad idea.

Some prison glass shit. Fuck! That is actually a good idea. Eddie Bravo with two strong ideas in a row for marketing. I don't know if you can market the prison glass. You know why? You know why? Because you're the only one that's not high here.

That's why. Me and Eddie, we're on the same level. I'm feeling his ideas. Can you imagine him screaming at the fucking phone? Can you imagine Nate D. He's going, fuck you! Stop doing it, fuck you! Stop them! Fuck you!

Fox is going to go, yeah, let's fucking vote him out. Joey Diaz would be the host. That'd be brilliant. Come on! How would Joey Diaz start off the show? Oh my God, that would be hilarious. Dude, but Diaz wants this big fight because he's getting paid 20 and 20. Is that real?

That's real. Are we sure? I'm positive. That doesn't make any sense. I saw the payouts at the commission. Now, he might have on-disclose bonus, but as far as contractual that we know, it's $20,000 and $20,000. Now, I'm not blaming the UFC. I don't know what his contract is.

Hopefully, he's not on the tough contract. That's bad management, though. That's horrible management. As big of a star as he is, that motherfucker should be getting at least 120 and 120 a fight. Yeah, I agree. And more than that, probably. Well, that's why he didn't fight for a while. Nate Diaz is a giant star.

Let me tell you this. When he went out into that arena, they went fucking crazy. Yes. That crowd went fucking crazy. When Nate Diaz was raising his arms after every round, they went fucking crazy. Who are we talking about? Think about all the stars on the card. Who's the number one most clicked guy right now?

It's fucking Diaz. That one guy, well, his performance, first of all, was outstanding against a guy in Michael Johnson who's an up-and-coming lightweight who's been really on a tear. Michael Johnson's looked fantastic. I thought his fight with Benil Darius was kind of a questionable decision. He probably should have won it.

Maybe. You could see it. Maybe that way. Good fight. I'm a big Darius fan. Benil Darius is a bad motherfucker, but a fight is a fight, right? I agree. And why did Nate Diaz get that knee bar at the end? He fucking had it. No, time was over, bro. All you need is

one fucking second. No, no, no. Time was totally over. When he extended it, it was after the buzzer. He grabbed it and then the buzzer went and he extended it after the buzzer. Johnson just let him have it. He was saying I had your knee or something like that. He's like, fuck with him. The bell was way over, homie. I don't know about that. No, no, no.

Trust me. We watched it. We watched it in the truck over and over again. It's definitely was... And then he was all I watched it. We watched it in the truck over and over again. It's definitely, it was... And then he was all, I love it. And then John, because I was like, why did Johnson kick him? And then I saw another angle, the way I'm looking at him, I'm looking at them from eye height, right? So where my eyes are, that's where their body is on the other side of the cage. I couldn't see the knee bar.

And I'm like, why would Michael Johnson kick him after the fight is over? And then I saw the whole thing. I go, oh, he deserved it. 100%. He was holding it going. But he didn't hurt him. I think he was just fucking with him even further. Yeah, man.

He was having a good time. Look, we're all talking about him. But I wonder if you can get fined. By the commission? Because if you swear. 100%. Well, the FCC. The FCC.

I was asking someone online about this today because it's like radio. There's rules now, and I think a lot of them got passed after Howard Stern because what happened with Howard Stern was Howard Stern, he got fined for questionable subject matter, which is fucking insane. And it was one of the weirdest moments in like free speech time because really everybody Should have stood up and said something about it the New York I mean every fucking magazine should have been talking about what a travesty it is that you're trying to stop a show That's on the radio that anybody could turn one way or the other and he's not even swearing

He's playing within your rules. Yeah, but for subject matter that they were finding him like huge money the subject matter whatever you talk about whatever anything sexual or anything they felt was offensive they were getting him on subject matter super weird rules like it's like you can just you can say Nick but if I say I put my dick in your mouth you can find do you know you can say Jesus but if you say Jesus Christ you're not supposed to Jesus Christ like there was a tennis match where one of the kids, there was two people playing tennis, and one of them had to forfeit the match because

they said Jesus Christ when they missed. Jesus Christ. Exactly. That's ridiculous. Just saying that alone. I saved it. It was a story from years ago, and I always wanted to do a bit about it, but I would get so mad when I would read it that I'm like this isn't even going to be funny like there's nothing funny about it. It was a blessing

in disguise though because that was a big reason why he went to Stoplight Radio. Serious. I love, I just got it I had it for the last year. I love it man. He just re-signed a five year deal. Oh yeah. Huge deal. Such a good show. He has the best interviews. His interviews are excellent.

And he has like, man lately it seems like he's bigger than ever. He just keeps getting bigger. He a good show. He has the best interviews. His interviews are excellent. And he has like, man, lately it seems like he's bigger than ever. He just keeps getting bigger. He's getting serious. He can't get any bigger. A-list stars to be interviewed. I mean, he's, it's crazy what's all that. The point is that Diaz could get fined for that and for the late kick. I don't know.

Well, he didn't kick him. Oh, that's right. Johnson kicked him. Correct. Holding that. And he didn't hurt him with that. That's super questionable, that's right. Johnson kicked him. Correct. Holding that. And he didn't hurt him with that. That's super questionable. But the swearing on the air, if you do it on purpose, I think you can get in trouble.

I don't know what the rules are. I'm just talking on my ass. But I've been told, like on live radio, that if you chose to swear on live radio, if they went after you, they could fine you. And they could fine you a lot of money, like hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah, it's crazy. That's a bummer. Well, it's just dark, man.

It's just dark that they can take money from you, and it goes where? Where's it go? Does it go anywhere helpful? Or does it just get eaten up by your red tape fucking overrun system? I mean, where's that money go? You're just stealing money from me. You're going to steal it and then pump it out into this machine? It doesn't make any sense?

Even if they charge him, I don't think he's going to get fined. Let's say they fine him $100,000, but he gets the Conor McGregor fight, it's worth every penny. Right. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. Oh, yeah. It's probably worth a lot more than that. There's a reason three dudes are calling Conor out, because that's the payday.

That's the cash count. Well, how about his brother? His brother, with the pot charge, they fined him $165,000, and then they kept him out of fighting for five years. That was the rule. It's insane. It's beyond silly. It's silly. Where do you see Tony Ferguson in that mix?

I could see Tony... Oh, he's right there. After the Barboza fight? I could see Tony in Cowboy. Dude, he beat Barboza. Holy shit. Dude. Finished him.

People are scared of Edson Barboza. No one is confident when they go into that fight. They're like, oh, shit. He's got, in my opinion, the fastest kicks I've ever seen in MMA. Barbosa? Yeah. 100%. He's so fast.

His switch kick off his front leg. Amazing. It's the fastest switch kick I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen anybody faster. He's like a 130-pound taekwondo guy, like a little tiny Korean guy that moves like lightning. That's how good he is. Like his switch kick is just, it's insane. It's like, what the?

It's so fast. I could see Tony and Cowboy fighting. Fuck yeah. That's a phenomenal fight. Yeah, Tony's ready for those guys right there. Oh, 100%. Yeah. I said 2016 is Tony's year.

Yeah. I think he's a guy where everyone's like, fuck, I don't want to fight that dude. He can't sleep on Nurmagomedov either. That fucking guy, if he can get healthy. I'm sleeping on him because he's a guy where everyone's like, fuck, I don't want to fight that dude. He can't sleep on Nurmagomedov either. That fucking guy, if he can get healthy. I'm sleeping on him because he's not healthy. But if he can get healthy and he can figure out a way to stop being injured like he does. It's a big if. The last one was a rib, which you can't really control.

But the knees, he's done his knees a couple times now. And I think he's done his knees after surgery. I think he hurt his knee, got it fixed, and then hurt again, which is never good. So people are a little bummed out that he hasn't been iner if he's healthy remember he slammed the champ around like a son Yeah, he brought him all he just tossed him around just did whatever he wanted to once got a hold of him He's a nightmare if he gets healthy with their alpha. It's almost though like he's too tough for his joints You know it's almost like he's his his style so hard and he put he's got so much fucking strength and technique and there's so much torque

like when he ragdolls guys it's a very unique kind of ragdolls of ragdoll it's also he's ragdolling guys and no one ragdolls I agree like when he ragdoll dos anjos that was like whoa I never seen anybody do this to dos anjos insane man clay Guida beat him but he got a broken jaw and clay finished him with his jaw broken because remember clay was doing like an arm triangle yes and he he had a broken jaw this is the russian you're talking about no no no no dos anjos oh that was in denver no but again too i think so we're talking about never got met off okay habib never got met off the way he ragdolled he beat him he just threw him around man beat his ass threw him around how long ago was his ass. Threw him around.

How long ago was that? Two years ago? Two years ago. The champ? The champion? Yeah. It was the last loss on Dos Anjos record. No one wants to fight him.

Cowboy was supposed to fight him. Who else has he fought? But I got to say, I don't think that Dos Anjos is the same Dos Anjos we're looking at now. I agree 100%. His strength and conditioning program is fucking gnarly. He looked phenomenal. You got to talk to Nick Curzon. You should have him on your podcast. He's that speed of sport guy.

Yeah, I've heard of him. He works with Fabrizio Verdum, Ruslan Provodnikov. He works with a lot of Olympic athletes. Oh, Jake Ellenberger used to tell me about him. Yeah, and Joe Schilling's working with him now, too. He has these guys doing all these crazy plyometric drills. Everyone swears by him. Everyone swears by him. Everyone swears by him.

Dude, I'll tell you, I had this guy in, and I talked to him, and I was super impressed. Brilliant, huh? Super impressed with his knowledge, with his understanding, and with his philosophy. And I was like, what is the big difference? What's the most important thing? He's like, foot strength. I was like, whoa. He's like, it's all about covering distance and all about the ability to move and balance in movements.

And it's all about figuring out how to close the distance quicker and he's saying that when he fought Pettis Dos Anjos was just that much quicker at every exchange he pulled the trigger that much faster landed that much faster and he's like it over the course of a fight even though he's only that much better over the course of the fight that adds up you get fucked up and that's what you saw last night Dos Anjos would just jump the gun. He was just there. I think it's a combo of things. I think talking, you know, knowing Cowboy as long as I've known him, he just, and he even said it in his post-fight interview, he just said, listen, I didn't show up, and in this business,

when you don't show up to work, you don't feel like fighting, you get your ass whooped. So I think it's. He didn't feel like fighting? He said that? Yeah. He said that? Yeah, he's been there before too, man.

He's been there before, and he ended up KOing dudes. Cowboys always had a problem in the back. The reason I didn't like this for Cowboy is because of the time off. Cowboy's an active guy, so he didn't have to think about it. You give him six months, that's trouble for Cowboy. You know, man, I don't know if any of that would have mattered, the way Dos Anjos pulled the trigger. I agree 100%.

I think Dos An Angeles looked phenomenal. But I do have to say that there has to be some sense made out of when fights get stopped and when fights don't get stopped. I'm not saying that fight shouldn't have been stopped, but I am saying that Chris Weidman versus Luke Rockhold should have been stopped. I agree. I think we have to figure out what is the when. What's the when? I mean, I don't know when it is but

i felt like cowboy was covering up and eating shots and although i'm not unhappy with the stoppage like i didn't protest it i was like man i don't know it is for a title but referee's there he sees what he sees i don't um there's a giant difference between doing that and then what was happening at the end of the round where Rockhold was mounted on Weidman and just beating his brains out. That was bad. That felt to me like I was like, Jesus Christ. I think I even said, what does it take to stop a fight?

I agree. How many shots can he take? The thing is with Cowboy why Leister Bowling, I talked to his coach Leister Bowling and he goes, man, you think it was stopped early? And I said, I don't because Cowboy's been in the game long enough. He knows when he's in turtle like that and he's getting punched, Cowboy knows, man. Right, they can stop it.

They're going to stop it. They give you a warning. Do something or I'm going to stop the fight. If Cowboy would just roll to guard and manage distance or grabbed him and controlled him, the fight would have carried on. But when I don't see Cowboy responding responding I don't want to say he wanted out but he knows what's going on trust me I've been I should like that happened so when he's covering up you think what he really should have been

doing is moving and scrambling he should just so by just in there and covering up he basically invited yes stoppage yes I'm not saying he wanted out he might been hurt he probably was hurt. You know, man. They come in the back and they're like, listen, if I tell you to move, I'm close to stopping it. And you can hear it clear as day. Like my last fight with Travis Brown, I turned to the ref and I said, I'm fine

because I know where it's going to get stopped. I know when I'm in trouble and they're about to stop it. I turn to him and I go, I'm good. It's tough, man. And so Cowboys has so much experience. If you just went to guard, you would have bought him some time. I'll to him and go, I'm good. It's tough, man. Yeah. And so Cowboys has so much experience. If you just went to guard, you would have bought him some time. I'll tell you what, man. He had to be wrong because Dos Anjos just teed off on him.

To the body. That knee to the body was nasty. And then the kick. And then he uncorks. And Cowboys said the kick didn't land. I think he means the kick didn't hurt him. It definitely landed. It landed 100%.

Yeah, but I think he meant it didn't hurt him. It definitely landed. It landed 100%. Yeah, but I think he meant it didn't hurt him. He said the knee is what did it. I think the knee really hurt him, and then the kick was just icing on the cake. It wasn't what put him away, but that barrage of punches, too. He's fucking terrifying. Terrifying, man. You know what's cool

about him, too? We watched him get better. We saw him against Jeremy Stevens. He got KO'd against Jeremy Stevens. He started off 0-2 in the UFC. Yeah I mean he's he's a guy who's just fucking kept on working. He's the nicest guy in the world. When I was in Brazil man I'm telling you no one gave me the time of day this dude took me around introduced me to different jams great dude man. Yeah I've talked to him many times backstage he's so calm and polite and friendly he's got like he's at peace you know like he's like he's an interesting guy like he's like he's

just like you know just trying to heal my knee up trying to get you want him to win you root for if you know that you root for him to win i took not that i took heat and i say this whether they're brazilian or not i say the x factors and this is everyone and it's not dos angeles i never said dos angeles was on stuff. But to me, when I was picking Dos Angeles and Cowboy, I said the X factor is if someone was taking shit, we're going to see different fighters. Now, it could be for Cowboy or Dos Angeles, but that's all around the board. I'm not saying anything that's new. If steroids wasn't an issue, performance-enhancing drugs wasn't an issue, the UFC wouldn't have implemented the strictest drug testing ever in the history of sports.

It's true. And I want to say something without implicating anyone, because this subject gets brought up a lot. All the time. It's exhausting. People are always like, you guys are talking shit, and you don't know what you're talking about. Let me just say that everyone behind the scenes,

all the trainers, all the coaches, all the managers, everyone is having this conversation. These conversations that we're having on this podcast are not unique in that sense. These are not ideas that we have. These are not theories that we have. Look, Jeff Novitski is sniffing up these dudes' asses, and he's not playing games. And why do you think that is? Because the UFC was like, you know what, let's just make it the strictest drug testing of

all time. Hell no. There's a real problem there. Well, there's definitely a real problem or was a real problem. But the idea that it's only us that's talking about it is crazy because we're the only one who's talking about it as publicly as we do. But behind the scenes, it is a constant conversation. Oh, anytime I talk to anyone in the game, it's a conversation. When we get done here, I'll text from coaches, other fighters.

And we can't even name names. Sometimes people come up to us and they'll say someone's going to have a hard time because he's off the shit. 100%. And then they'll go in there and they'll get crushed. And we'll go, whoa, this is nuts. The thing is with Aldo, I took so much shit for that. You got to realize he was the fighter at the present time when we're talking about this. I'm not singling out Aldo. I never said Aldo was on steroids. I said there's some things to me that were suspicious never what he's done for the sport is great he's one of my favorite fighters he's phenomenal whether he's on or not it doesn't matter my favorite fighter of all time was probably on vanderley's like if i had to choose like one guy who had the most fun watching vanderley in the pride days he was a goddamn berserker every fight was ah you'd be

grabbing pillows i mean how many times did we watch Vanderlei fight in pride just screaming Vanderlei Cro Cop? Cro Cop's my favorite fighter of all time he just got busted last week yeah I don't give a fuck yeah he got busted too why do you suppose the Japanese didn't care about steroids they wanted you on steroids because you could perform better they want the freak show too well they also want you to fight like crazy. They want you to fight like a wild man. They don't want you to win a really close decision.

They don't want you to do that. They want you to go out fucking Vanderlei style or Shogun style or Ninja style. They want you to go out on your shield. And they wanted you on steroids. Yes. They literally wanted you on steroids. We know. We have a friend that went over there.

They offered him a fight at 185 pounds. He's like, I fight at 155. We know. We have a friend that went over there. They offered him a fight at 185 pounds. He's like, I fight at 155. We know. And they're like, dude, we got some shit that's going to fix that. We got you, son. They said, how much do you weigh now? He's like, 170, 175. He goes, you have a good frame for 185.

I'm terrible at voices. Yeah, that's a good voice. That's great. Oh, you are but but 175 you have to do a after

it's like Bobby Lee's act you can be 185 no a problem no a problem you ever heard of Bobby Lee do his dad that's what he does he adds like a uh

to everything yeah phenomenal but you want to talk about PEDs especially when you talk about Overeem and Dos Santos. Listen, man. Overeem was on some shit. We all know this.

Overeem was 100%. Well, he got caught. I'm not saying anything that's not out there. So the X Factor was, what kind of Overeem are we going to get? I'm still a big fan of Overeem. Me too. I'm a huge fan. People think, because here's the thing.

There's other sports where if you accuse a guy of cheating, everybody hates that guy. People will talk about certain athletes that got caught doing something, and then people will go, fuck that guy, man. He's a fucking cheater. I heard dudes talking about, who's the Deflategate guy? What's his name? Tom Brady. Tom Brady.

He's a fucking cheater. He's a cheater. Nobody gives a fuck in MMA. They don't give a fuck. But they want to know. Yes. Because we're all suspicious. Yes.

Like why does Overeem look so much different? Why? Say it. Say it. Say it. But even, forget it or not, he's fucking awesome. Dude. It's phenomenal.

I was so impressed with Overeem on Saturday night. That was a tough goddamn fight. And did you see the thing he's doing, the Wim Hof method? He got in 40-degree water for 30 minutes, and he's breathing. Is that Wim Hof coaching him? Yeah. Jesus, I didn't see that. Wim Hof is from Holland, as is Overeem.

Oh, fuck, that's right. That's your boy. And they got together, and he's teaching them these methods to optimize his body. And I'll tell you what, man, just talking to Wim Hof makes you feel like you can go run around naked in the snow. Yeah, I listened to that shit. I started holding my breath. He's a motherfucker.

What do you use? What techniques do you use? I use the breathing technique before I go on stage. Really? Yeah, yeah. I do it for about 10 minutes before I go on stage. I get high as fuck. Whoa.

It's crazy. You get like oxygen high. Like. You take a gigantic breath and you only let out like half of it. And then you flood it up again. You take the biggest breath you can. You only let out a little bit of it. And you keep doing that.

You keep doing that for minutes. I do it for two minutes at a time. And then you start. I mean, you're like five minutes before or so, like right before. It's so easy, and yet I'm so lazy. It's the easiest shit ever. It's not like special weird Hickson breathing. It's just gigantic breaths.

That's it. Can you do the easiest shit for three minutes and still I don't do it? I do it if I start feeling sick, too. If I feel run down or something like that, I'll do it for a few minutes. I'll just sit down and do it for like two minutes. You know what? I really started doing it seriously, too. I started doing it after you and I talked about it on the phone.

Have you been doing that Wim Hof method? I go, nah. And you said the same thing. We're so lazy. It's so easy. Nobody does it. I said, yeah, you know what? All right, I'm going to start doing it before shows.

I'll just do it before shows. Oh, my God. I love it. I had a dude off Abbott Kinney, big, big dude, bald. He goes, bro, listen to Rogan's podcast with what's the dude's name? Wim Hof. Wim Hof. He goes, hey, man, what are you doing tomorrow morning?

I'm like, you know, I got shit to do, man. He goes, well, every morning at 4.30, we meet on the beach and we do these breathing techniques. Whoa. Yeah, cool. See you there, man. Good luck at 4.30 a.m. Yeah. Huh?

Fuck no. Oh, can you schedule me for never? Yeah, I'm not coming, man. Why don't you get in the water, pussy? Yeah, I think they do. Do they? They do. Yeah, they do that breathing shit. That water's so cold. That don't you get in the water, pussy? Yeah, I think they do. Do they? I think they do. Yeah, they do that breathing shit, man.

That water's so cold. That water in the Pacific in the winter is so cold. It feels fucking refreshing. It's good. I don't like water in my eyes, though. Does salt water fuck with your eyes hardcore? No, yoga does. That's interesting.

Isn't it? Probably hair care products. Do you have hair care products in? No. For real? No, I don't. Okay. I don't.

I do that on purpose. I do that on purpose. Yeah. You know what used to fuck with me hard, dude? When I used to do Fear Factor, I used to wear sunscreen on. So I'd have sunscreen on my head, and then I would go on stage that night. And the sunscreen would drip because I would sweat on stage. The sunscreen would drip in your eyes, and it's fucking fire.

It's awful. That shit burns. It's really bad for your eyes, too. You can't actually fuck with your vision. It's super bad for your eyes. I feel like I sweat so much during yoga All the sweat gets in my eyes So for like the next day I'm like blinking trying to get it out

Not if that's normal No I definitely get sweat in my eyes But sweat is like so much better than sweat with sunscreen Yeah it's gonna burn Yeah man I think that whole getting in the ocean thing Like is probably something people have been doing forever To refresh their body. I think it's instinctive.

You know how they do those ice plunges? Yeah, my aunt does it. She's part of the polar bear club. My aunt does that shit. Polar bear club in San Francisco, son. You know how it feels when you get out of that cryo tank? You feel fucking amazing, man. You feel amazing.

Now mix that with the ocean. There's some energy in the ocean. Then it's cold. I love it, man. The ocean's alive. Did you see that video? In San Francisco Bay, right next to the dock, a shark mercs a seal. Mercs his ass.

Mercs it. Just leaves this gigantic puddle. I mean, it's like a movie scene. The shark comes out of the water with the seal. And it's a big ass shark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie, play this thing. mean, it's like a movie scene. The shark comes out of the water with the seal. And it's a big-ass shark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamie, play this thing. Yeah, it's like... It's like a 12-foot shark, right?

It's huge. Watch this. Damn, he had a right on cue. Yeah, watch this. This is fucking amazing. Boom, bitch! I mean, come on, son. Look at all that blood. But he gets away. The little seal's like, not today, motherfucker. Well, he's dead no he's he's bleeding like crazy oh no he's in trouble but the shark probably just bit a giant chunk

out of him see he's on the top he's dead look all the blood nah dog he gets away i i didn't understand but look at all that blood i mean he's not going anywhere yeah he's kind of moving away a little but he's not going i appreciate the appreciate the effort. Good Lord, look at that puddle. I agree. Look at all these fucks running over from the clam chowder. Oh, yeah, man. I would be like, oh, shit. That's all I want to see in life.

Fuck. I'd love to see something like that. So crazy that it's right there. And that's just, it opens your eyes as to what that's really like. Because if we were just outside of the woods right and you would sit in your House look he hits him again boom Look at this now. He's dead. Okay. Now. He's dead. He's been dead. I think that thing's just wiggling Well, he's kind of doing the damn thing thing. He's gonna get away with one fin

I wonder what is happening. Maybe like lets it go. Oh my god. Look at this We're watching this folks, and this is like maybe 30 feet away from people. It looks like Jaws. He's getting away, though. But then he gets caught up. I don't know what's happening there. I just see some motion in the water. He's making an effort.

Do you think he is? 100%. Do you think there's more than one seal? It just doesn't seem like that thing could bleed that much. But look, he's up here now. You know what? There might be a bunch of seals, Joe. He must be just jacking seals.

Oh, God. Look at that. jacking seals. Oh, God. Look at that. That's insane. It never gets old for me. See, that seal looks so little. Do that again, Jamie. Watch. He's got it in his mouth when he flies out of the water. You know there's way better footage than that. It's just in South Africa.

That's in San Francisco. See, your balls deep in clam chowder. Shark attack. That makes it better. Here, watch this San Francisco. Yes, yes. See, you're balls deep in clam chowder. Yeah. Shark attack. Yeah. What I'm saying is like if we were- Yeah, it makes it better. Here, watch this. Watch this one more time.

Watch this, the up close thing. Boom! Look how little it is. See how little it is? Yeah. It looks like a puppy. Look at all that blood. It looks like a puppy and there's blood everywhere.

So that thing's dead. Or maybe it looks like a puppy because of the- Maybe we just can't tell because of the- No, it's too- It's so little. Look how little- We'll go one more time. It's so little in his mouth. Watch when it comes out of the water. It's got it in his mouth. See that look at that

That's little that thing's dead as fuck look at all that blood afterwards. I can't get enough of it I think that there's probably a gang of them in there and he's just swimming around jacking them just fucking Full-on buffet go just eat. I don't think they've stopped getting hungry. They're probably just eating Is there any ultimate footage you could throw up from South Africa? Oh, yeah. There's a bunch of shit. I'm sure we could find some. They're completely flying out of the giant war.

This is 30 feet away from 100 people just sitting there watching. It's Fisherman's Wharf. You're chilling, and this fucking Great White's next to you. But like I was saying, if you looked in your backyard, and your backyard was right there, and you watched some crazy crocodile tearing apart a zebra, right in your backyard, you'd be like, what the fuck?

I'm not going out there. Absolutely not. But people are like, let's go in the ocean. Let's go swimming around. Hey! You know what I love, man? I love surfing. I love surfing because it makes the,

where I'm standing on look a lot like seals which is like sharksy i like to get my flippers in my arms look like flippers when i'm lying on a surfboard it makes it even more exciting i wear all black i like to wear a wetsuit because it looks like a seal and then i get in there and i'm looking i hope that like mother nature like looks out for me man yeah you think they'd make the wetsuits white or something. Look at that. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ.

That is a great shamu. Scary fucking animal. There's nothing scarier than that. Nothing. Look at that. Jesus Christ. And it's really easy to get those shots. They're everywhere in South Africa.

What they're doing is they're dragging a fake seal. They're honeydicking the sharks. See that? Non-stop. That's a fake seal that they pull in water sharks like mother come up in the water Oh I want to do something like that man fuck South Africa's ocean fuck that imagine Jesus Christ quickly you would you die he died is that way the show me die he died? I don't know. He's an idiot. Dude, it'd be a good way to go.

It'd be a dope way to go. Are you kidding me? It'd be a terrible way to go. Oh, bro, how can I go like this? Look at that fucking thing! Can you imagine you're like 85 and they take you out there in a little boat? I'd love it. You're on a little boat.

When did they first realize that they jumped out of the water? I want to say that that wasn't that long ago. Like only a couple decades ago. I think there was just rumors that sharks jumped out of the water. Yeah, it just hit shark week like two years ago. We're like, holy fuck, they can fly. I don't think they really necessarily, wouldn't it be crazy? How about this?

Wouldn't it be crazy if they just started doing it recently? Like, you know how we always like to think of human evolution, and we think of human evolution as being like something that is like completely and totally unique. Like we got really smart We figured out cable in the internet and no other animals are ever gonna figure that out But what they're starting to say now about chimpanzees There's a theory about this that these these are these scientists were debating whether or not chimpanzees are beginning to enter into the Stone Age Meaning whether or not

Chimpanzees are starting to experiment with tools to the point where it could be thought of as a natural trait. And whether or not they're going to start teaching each other. I mean, we know that human beings at one point in time used to be some sort of an ancient primate. And we evolved and we developed and we grew and we became what we are today. Right? We know we weren't this way. No. Four million years ago.

We became this over time. Why wouldn't we assume that other animals are doing the same thing and if they are doing the same thing we're seeing that right now with chimps imagine if we're seeing that shit with sharks too imagine if they go you know what looks cool as fuck dude when you jack a seal and fly out of the ocean just to let those cunts know, look at me, bitch. Come surf, dude. Motherfucker. Dude. It's like, think about what things people do to show off. Like, those flips that those BMX bikers do, they couldn't do that 10 years ago or 20 years ago.

They didn't do it. Nobody did it. All of a sudden, they do it. Well, these fucking sharks are starting to jump out of the water. What if it was like 10 years ago, they just didn't do it? What if one shark did it and the other sharks were like oh that's it works Yeah, the shark got a lot of shark pussy and the other sharks were like I gotta start doing that too It's called peacocking. So smoke yourself retarded

There's a video that I just saw last week on Facebook. It had like a gazillion views, but there's a monkey sitting in front of a screen with all these squares, and a sequence of numbers, 1 through 10, pops up in the squares, and you see it all mixed up just for a flash, and the chimp goes,

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I couldn't do it. Now, I don't know if it's a hoax video. I was trying to do it, but I couldn't remember. I couldn't put them in order. But the monkeys, apparently, unless it's a hoax video, it could be, says chimps have a better short-term memory than humans, or it's just me because I couldn't do it.

They figured out how to do it to get food, and they teach them these sequences over a long period of time. They teach them how to do it, and then they know they're going to get food. But look, they've been doing it for a while. And then they give them a treat. Dude, you remember when that dumb bitch had a pet chimpanzee?

Yeah, but look at the code. It's just 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Yeah, it's not exactly... See, it's not like some super secret code. Come on. Watch the beginning. See, it's 1, 2, 3. Oh, well, here's what's going on, though. They block block out the number so you can't see what the numbers are exactly first but

look at it at first he does it you see the numbers yeah oh that's just blocked and then they do it again and then they hide the number they show it to him briefly for a moment and then they hide the numbers yeah look at how fast he's look at this i couldn't have done that i wouldn't have done it you know look at that challenging it's so true done it. Look at that shit. That's challenging. What the fuck? It's so true. We better take these motherfuckers out. Humans can't do it. Yeah, and it's in a different order. We better kill these guys. It's a different order every time.

Look at this shit. Holy shit. Watch them walk on the tightrope. Watch this again. This is what's bananas. Watch them walk on this fucking telephone cord or whatever that is. Dude, that's spooky looking. They're terrifying.

They're terrifying. That Planet of the Apes shit, imagine if they got just smart enough to be like those things in Planet of the Apes. We got to take them out before that happens. Oh, we'd have to take them out. Bro, remember that lady who had the boyfriend chimpanzee? Yeah, she gave him Xanax. He was chilling in a robe and shit, drinking wine.

And then one day he said, nah, bitch, ripped her face off. Remember that? No, not her face. Her friend's face because her friend was cock-blocking. That's what it is. I think that chimp was getting some pussy. That's what I think is happening. I think she was banging him. What are you That's what I think's happening. She was 100% sucking his dick.

She was banging him. Yeah. What are you doing over there, Eddie Bravo, on the microphone? I got some chocolate with bacon in it here. Okay. Does that sound good? Let's definitely not open it on the mic. But I need a pair of scissors.

You got some scissors, Jim? Watch these teeth, man. I tried to, dude. Chuck it over here. I'll get it for you. This is steel paper. So with that lady, see, I thought it was her that got fucked up. Oh, shit. Powerful teeth bite, Joe Rogan thought it was her that got fucked up. Oh, shit.

Powerful teeth bite, Joe Rogan. Why does that bite in there, man? I'm good. I'm good. Let's just take that wrapper off, though, so it doesn't make everybody get angry at us on Twitter. Let me know how it is, Eddie. So the friend was cock blocking. That's what it was.

So the friend came over and was like, oh, what's up, champ in a robe? That's cool. I'm trying to get my dick sucked. And he went crazy and he attacked her. Did he rip his face off? He ripped her face off. I wonder if she said, hey, you get out of here, if she got threatening to him or something like that.

I wonder if there was an exchange or if he said, all right, enough of this cock blocking. I'm just going to pull this bitch's eyes out. He had a robe on, bro. I think he had a diaper. Robe and a diaper. Do you see the picture of him in a robe? She dressed him up and shit. Jesus Christ.

And then finally he was like, this is some- I want to see this. Well, there's pictures of her, too, if you want to get really- Ooh, she got fucked. Didn't he rip her face and take these off or something? Tore her face apart. Completely. And then the chick's on the phone, right?

Going, like, she's crunched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, my fucking monkey just killed my friend. He was 200 pounds. He was huge. I mean, he was eating- He slept in her bed, I thought. He slept in her bed.

She gave him Xanax, and she gave him red wine. So even if he wasn't fucking her, which he probably was fucking her. 100%. He had a giant dick, a giant chimp dick, and giant chimp balls, and he's probably horny all the time. So maybe she just jerked him off every now and again. You know, maybe, who knows what the fuck happened. But that chimp was like her companion.

Like, he loved her. That was her man. Yeah, it was her man. And then he ripped her friend's face off. We're chimp was her companion. He loved her. That was her man. Yeah, it was her man. And then he ripped her friend's face off. He wasn't fixed. It doesn't matter if that happened. He wasn't fixed. So think of a person.

A wild chimp in a robe. Think of a dude, a horny dude. And he's cuddling with his girl all the time. And he's never getting any pussy. And then a friend comes over right when he thinks he's about to get the pussy. The friend comes over and like, you're sleeping with a monkey. He's like, you fucking cunt. You got to rip her face off.

Tears her apart. Fucking bitch. Face off. Oh my God, what a monster. What a terrifying thing. An intelligent, super powerful primate that rips your face apart. That sips wine and is fucking chilling.

And Xanax. She was giving it Xanax. Who knows what the fuck Xanax does to her? Imagine how hard he fucked her after the wine. Monkeys probably have a lower tolerance than humans. You probably have a drunken monkey sex. I wonder if she gave him wine and Xanax at the same time. No wonder she...

He's going to rip that asshole up. You know what I mean? No wonder she's living there. It's like, you ain't going fucking nowhere. You're staying here. There he is. There he is, man. Look at her face, son.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Look at her face. Oh, my God. Like, if one of Look at her face. Oh, my God. Like, if one of you guys called and was like, yo, man, I got this champ. Come and see it. No. I'm not fucking coming over.

He's terrifying. He literally tore her face apart. That is the craziest shit ever. That's him chilling in her room and shit. Yeah. Look at the family photo there in the yellow and blue. I don't mean to laugh, but what the fuck? What kind of crazy bitch is this?

Well, you know, people are allowed to have wild animals that they shouldn't be allowed to. They just haven't changed the laws in certain places. There's actually a documentary called The Elephant in the Living Room that's all about people that own wild animals, like dangerous wild animals. And there's parts of the country where you could just, like Ohio, there was this guy that had a bunch of them he had tigers and lions and elephants and shit and he opened up the gates and shot himself in the head he was like fuck this open the gates let the animals out and then fucking iced himself and so the cops came and the cops had to just start shooting these

animals they had to find them and shoot them but they're all just wandering down the street they don't know where the fuck they're going they've been in these fenced cages their whole life it's horrible oh it's so crazy how about the uh the kid who his parents or i think it was his mom owned like a crazy uh snake uh pet shop and he committed suicide by letting a cobra bite him the cobra bit him eight times that's how he committed suicide jesus some gnarly shit, man. Again, good way to go. I don't know about all that, dude. Well, I'm just saying gangster way to go. Gangster, yeah.

It's insanely painful, I think. Yeah, that can't be good. Speaking of suicide, dude, seriously, you guys got to watch Soaked in Bleach. Dude, I've seen it. Oh, my God. It's the brand new Kurt Cobain documentary about Courtney Love. Courtney Love did it? She did it, dude.

What do you mean she did it? Watch this. She killed him? Yes, 100%. Dude, in this documentary. If you say dude one more time, the internet is going to explode. They're going to freak out on you. They're going to rip your face off like a chimpanzee.

It's so mind-boggling. It's the thing-boggling that history is going to be rewritten on how a Jimi Hendrix type rock star got killed. It's been out for a while, though. Now they got to change. No, this year. It came out this year. 2015, dude.

I don't think so, brother. No, no. 2015. 100%. That's one of those stories that is so crazy that when you start telling people, you have to dude them up just to get them prepared for it. Dude. Dude.

Right? You got to prepare them. You got to dude. How just to get them prepared for it right right you gotta prepare them you gotta dude how bad is it dude dude i agree dude you almost like with all your dudes i get like more and more prepared for crazy 2015 yeah yeah but but but what they do is uh they have this dude they have they have the private investigator that courtney hired to make her look good but she just went through the yellow pages and hired a motherfucker. She hired the detective of all detectives. What was going down is Kurt Cobain.

Kurt Cobain had her sign a prenup. This is all real shit when you watch this. He was divorcing her and writing her out of the will. He was in the process of writing her out of the will, and since she signed a prenup, she wasn't going to get that much. She was totally fucked up on how and he was trying to clean his shit up according to this documentary and then um if if she had something it looks it appears that she had something to do with his murder it appears based on that documentary, it fucking... Dude, they got... Oh, dude.

Here we go again. Dude. Dude. When he shot himself. Yes, when he shot himself. Okay. Are they saying he didn't shoot himself? No. They're saying he did, but they're saying he didn't do it because he had too much heroin in his body. How much heroin they found in his blood system? He couldn't operate a gun. He couldn't

pick it up and shoot. He had enough heroin in his body to cause ten overdoses on people. It was just like it was crazy. Let me ask you this. Is it possible his tolerance was so high that he could just do it when you listen to all the shit that's private. She hired a private investigator to find

this missing. We don't know where he's at. He bought a shotgun and he's going to he's suicidal. She was just putting it all out there. And from day one, this private investigator started taping everything. Goes, this girl's full of shit. She was calling like TMZ and leaking all this stuff. There was no TMZ then. She was calling like the.

MTV. MTV. Whatever. Courtney was calling MTV saying he's suicidal. He's got a, she bought a shotgun. Because the detective was like, how the fuck is this getting out? And then he traced it back. He's like, this bitch is this getting out and then he traced traced it back to she's like he's like this bitch is releasing it and then with that with the evidence uh the way he shot himself

if according to how he would do it that they found him the way the shotgun shell fell is all wrong it should have fell the other even beyond that though all the conversation the taped conversations he taped everything mad conversation him and and her lawyer him and her and this is the she would say she'd be all up on heroin in her voice would say see you know they're supposed to be looking for kurt but she knows where he's at she's calling the rehab 13 times a day and he won't take her calls she's freaking out she's going to get written out of the will she needs his ass dead that's the way it looks she says like this to the private investigator on tape. She'll say, you know, my album's coming out, and I started this rumor that I had an OD.

She's saying this. But where should I go with this? Should I say it was an OD, or should I say, no, it wasn't an OD. That was twisted. It was actually me being suicidal because I can't find Kurt. What do you think? And the private investigator's going, I think that's a really, really bad idea. She goes, but it's publicity.

It's for my album. It's one of the best documentaries. She goes, but it's publicity. It's for my album. It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's all on tape. How about their own daughter didn't invite her to her wedding? She got married and didn't invite her. Look at them.

The daughter got married and didn't invite her. They do a little bit of a, not mockumentary, but there's some reenacted scenes. Yeah, they do that. No, they do. It's everything. I agree. That's a little nasty. I agree. No, you fucked us, Jamie. No, but it's not.enacted scenes. Yeah, they do that. No, they do. It's everything. I agree. That's a little nasty. I agree.

No, you fucked us, Jamie. No, but it's not. You fucked us. Make no mistake about it. We're selling this. Dude, it's a documentary with every forensics expert that they have on that. No, I'm not questioning the actual evidence. I just fucking hate reenactments.

They drive me nuts. Me too. It's bad. It doesn't even look like Kurt Cobain. I'm like, damn it. You know what I love? When they have those fucking TV shows, like 48 Hours or something like that, and they have a reenactment, and then the reenactment dude doesn't look nothing like him.

I know. They're like, come on. They show up with the gun. They did a pretty good job, though, with the Courtney, and they did a good job. Oh, they had a fake Kurt Cobain? Yeah, it's tough. No. You fucked this, Jamie.

No. You had to bring this up. No, that's not in the movie. Yeah, it is. No. Yeah, it is. No. You don't understand.

It's an actual documentary with little scenes. It's not the whole thing like that. It's just like little bits and pieces. But why didn't they just use actual photos of Kurt Cobain instead of that? They used all that. Courtney wouldn't release anything to him. Courtney tried stopping this documentary from coming out. I don't know if you know that.

Dude. She tried banning him. It's her voice scheming and lying to this private investigator. She knows where he's at. She's pretending that he's missing. She keeps saying that he's suicidal. He bought a shotgun. Jesus Christ.

And then the cops, like the former police chief of Seattle where all this happened, he's on the documentary saying, they've got to reopen this thing. They want to reopen the case. All the forensics. This is true. Even Sober Jamie. I have to turn to reopen this thing. They want to reopen the case. All the forensics. Oh, my God. This is true. Even sober Jamie. I have to turn to sober Jamie. Let's talk to a really good detective.

I think he's from L.A. He's been in a lot of major cases, and he's essentially the head. He wrote the book on how to look at a murder investigation, and he's saying, look at this case again. And why they don't is there's a little corruption in the Seattle Police Department, too. She was paying a lot of people, man. They did it all wrong. He said usually for them to say it was a suicide, there's, like, all the stuff that goes into it.

They literally, like, nope, suicide. Even the detective was like, what the fuck? That quick? No one's going to do any research? Well, how do you go about bribing cops? Dollar bill, son. But can you just do that? Like, a high-profile case like that, where Kurt Cobain

commits suicide, who the fuck would she talk to to hook up some sort of bribery? How do you do something like that? She was a gazillionaire, dude. Hold on, hold on. It was a lot of dumbness. Just a lot of bad procedure and a lot of circumstantial dumb things that happened. Sort of like the

JonBenet Ramsey case where they just kept, they fucked up the murder case. Or the OJ thing. Like, they fucked up a bunch of stuff in evidence and then finally like ah it's a suicide well the guy the head detective the guy that was in charge of everything he soon got fired or quit forced to quit for some other scandals he could have eased she was known for paying people off oh she was just giving okay so he got he got in trouble for other as well oh yeah the guy in charge the guy who didn't want to look into anything. There was a private investigator, the guy who put the shit together. He went to the lead detective.

He was a former cop, this private investigator. He knows proper procedure. He goes up to the guy and says, hey, listen, I was hired by Courtney Love. I've been on this case for the last month. You need to talk to me and i got a lot of and the guy didn't want to talk to him wow you wouldn't talk to him that's true like that well it seems like it seems like you're the head detective me i don't want to watch that oh no you want to watch it what if i run into her somewhere we're gonna have to kill her dude i think the

world is gonna turn on her i know the world is gonna turn on her dude the world is gonna turn on her thank god this is a comedy podcast oh i know right i a chip. The world is going to turn on her, dude. Let's get her a chip. The world is going to turn on her. Thank God this is a comedy podcast. Oh, I know, right? Let's send her a chip. I don't think the world is because we're just finding out about it. It's just coming out. When did it come out? I saw it on a laptop a while ago. But that's now.

It's almost over. 2015 is becoming 2016. They just made it available on Netflix. We're talking about it now. They just made it available on Netflix. I heard about it on the OPE channel earlier this year. They interviewed the director. How long ago was this?

This summer. See, that's what I'm worried about. the Opie channel earlier this year. They interviewed the director. How long ago was this? The summer. See, that's what I'm worried about. But it just hit Netflix just now. It just hit Netflix. Well, that might just be it. Netflix is the motherfucker of motherfuckers when it comes to spreading shit. And then JRE? I mean, we're talking about it right now. Oh, my God. That's right. We're talking about it on the JRE. I said we send a chimp to our house.

A horny chimp. Just a chimp in a robe with a fucking jug of wine and a bottle of pills. What's up, bitch? And a bottle of Viagra. And a Nirvana shirt. And a cold blue steel chimp dick. Oh, my God. With the one with the baby in the water.

That shirt. Fucking epic. Man, I can't believe you really think that shit. You know what's crazy to me? I mean, I've done my best, and we've all fucked up in life, but I've done my best to try to avoid Total nightmare type relationships like that Oh like that seems like not just a nightmare relationship with a nightmare if that is true with a completely insane Person who's willing to not just fake things for publicity, but possibly you know they're insinuating allegedly killing him

There's a lot of jealousy there, too. But look at a brilliant fucking musician he was. It just kills you, the idea that some unbelievably brilliant guy gets shacked up with some knucklehead. That's what drove everybody crazy about Yoko Ono and John Lennon. Like, how?

How? How was that the wedge? I don't know if that was the wedge in the Beatles. We weren't there. I'm just guessing, but that's what everybody says. Is there any way you could pick a hotter girl? Eddie didn't even talk about the suicide note. Oh, the suicide note. Check this out. Check this out. Preach, Eddie. The suicide note that was supposedly found.

How dare you, Jamie? It was like the first half of it. It wasn't even about, it was like about his music and all this. It wasn't, it didn't sound like a suicide note. Then at the end, she pieced it together, practiced his signature. In her backpack, they found her practicing. Her practicing. She wrote that shit. Oh, my God.

So a lot of it was other stuff, and then she wrote at the bottom. I love you. I love you. I love you. He was divorcing her and writing her out of the will. Yes. He was divorcing her, and that's a fact. Correct.

He was talking about leaving Nirvana, too, supposedly. Yeah. Whoa. So she watched his handwriting on the paper and wrote something at the bottom of a paper that he had written on. Yeah, it doesn't even match up, they're saying. Forensic scientists say it doesn't even match up. She wanted to make it seem like it was something that he really wrote.

So she was trying to blend it all in together. Oh, my God. That is fucking terrifying. Some dark shit, man. Is this possible? I mean, there's a reason Dave Grohl. Dave Grohl. Man, I'm 100% convinced she was involved in it somehow.

I'm 100% too. And I'm not a conspiracy guy. I'm 100%. Do you think this is going to be like that movie The Jinx? How the Jinx took down that murderer dude, that TV show? Yes. Yes. You think so?

Man. How crazy would it be in our lifetime if all of a sudden Courtney Love winds up getting arrested and convicted for Kurt Cobain's murder and then you start thinking about all the guys that publicly dated her? Like Ed Norton? Ed Norton. Oh, that's right. That fucking guy was dating her after the suicide.

Alleged suicide. A lot of rock stars. Billy Corgan, Twiggy Ramirez. Damn. Didn't Billy Corgan have a giant following out with her? He helped her write

that one brilliant album. Well, her first album that Kurt wrote, that's a Nirvana album. Which one is that? Which one is that? That's the one with What song was in it?

Doll Parts. Oh, that's a great one. That Which one is that? Which one is that? That's the one with... What song was in it? Doll Parts. Oh, that's a great one. That was a great album. God, it's so good. And people on the inside know that Kurt put that shit together for her. Man, it seems like it, because it's brilliant. So she didn't want to do... He was brilliant.

He dies, that album blows up, it was all perfect timing. She becomes this huge star, doesn't want to put out... I think it was the... Doesn't want to put out another album, and she the doesn't want to put out another album and she's banging billy corgan this is according to billy corgan on howard stern he said that um he had to convince her to make another album she was afraid of course because she knew it wasn't going to live up to that first time so billy put that album together and wrote most of it and he convinced her to do it and help her put it all together he's a brilliant songwriter doesn't even fuck

with it like he don't take there's an hbo kurt cobain documentary which is brilliant the way to do it and help her put it all together. He's a brilliant songwriter. Dave Grohl doesn't even fuck with her. Exactly. There's an HBO Kurt Cobain documentary, which is brilliant. The way it was done was amazing. But he wouldn't even take... He wanted nothing to do with it. This one or that one. He wanted nothing to do with it.

This is scary. It is scary shit. Scary shit. Yeah. It's scary that someone could become a murderer and just integrate right back into pop culture. She got away with it for so long she got away with it but this isn't this isn't the first documentary i remember i watched one a few years back where

there was another guy that was accusing her of uh of murdering yeah and in that documentary was all conspiracy theory uh status back then uh this private investigator he plays a little part but he didn't he didn't release any of the tapes. He had all the tapes. He has hours and hours of their conversations where her just bullshitting and lying the whole time. Oh my God. He catches her in so many lies. This is so scary.

I'm getting nervous. I get nervous when I talk about this. Imagine someone alive that does that. Fills him up with heroin and writes his love. Can't do it twice, though. Suicide note. Blows his brains out. Whatever the fuck. She did it once. I agree. If she really did do it

once, and that happened, what year was that happen? Like 94, 93. But check this out. Their nanny, their nanny was a guy that used to fuck her. Preach. Come on. Come on! Yes! True.

While they were married or before they were married? No, while they were married. Oh my god. While they were married. Whoa, the darkness continues. The darkness. Yeah! Kurt Cobain, one of the greats. Dude, when you hear her voice conniving and she's a master at handling

the press. Oh shit. Everything back then was coming from MTV, like all the news. And it was all coming from her directly. She was all over that shit. So she was putting out all this. Everybody that knows him, everybody that knew him really well said he was not suicidal. His family, they interviewed his family and friends. They're like, Kurt was 100% not suicidal.

Like, he put on this whole, like, grunge thing. He was not suicidal. Jesus Christ, this is fucking terrifying. And he also, they said a lot of times like he killed himself because he had that stomach issue that was gone yeah he didn't have that that was cured so what stomach issue he had a stomach problem intestine issue he would say man sorry yeah he would there was a statement he made that said that uh it made him want to kill himself the pain oh so that's when he started doing it.

Exactly. Exactly. She ran with it. She would run with that stuff. But you're saying he was cured at that time. Yeah, it was all coming from her. You got to watch it. I can't.

I'm scared. We just came up with a whole fucking plot. I'm terrified. You guys are fucking with me, man. Spoiler alert, he dies at the end. What? Yes. Yeah, man.

She did it, though. Did you ever see the photos they released on the internet? Oh, yeah. The autopsy photos. I get into that. It's almost like, what if you found out that Jimi Hendrix was murdered by the CIA or something? He did it though. Did you ever see the photos they released on the internet? Oh, yeah. Autopsy photos. I get into that. It's almost like, what if you found out that Jimi Hendrix was murdered by the CIA or something? You know what I mean?

There's a Jimi Hendrix book. Jimi Hendrix's former bodyguard is a guy who says that Jimi Hendrix was murdered by his former manager. Because he was leaving his manager. And that same manager killed Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend. God, what? Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend. Holy shit. A lot of people don't know. After Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend. God, what? Jimi Hendrix's girlfriend. Holy shit. A lot of people don't know. After Jimi Hendrix died,

after Jimi Hendrix died, his girlfriend was thrown off a roof in Soho. Yeah, they said she committed suicide, but this guy says they threw her off a roof because she knows that they killed Jimi because Jimi was leaving his manager. This is one thing the manager did do, okay? The manager had Jimi kidnapped,

had Jimi kidnapped, and then rescued him. Oh, you're a bad then rescued him to show him that Jimmy needed him. Jesus. So the manager had Jimi Hendrix fucking kidnapped. Is this fact or conspiracy theory? I don't know. I wasn't there, obviously. But this is according to this guy, and apparently the kidnap story has been said before.

Such a shame, man. This bouncer. Brilliant, brilliant artist. Well, that happens, though. These manager characters, especially in the old days of show business. I mean, think about what we're talking about in the 60s. The 60s is just 20 years removed from the fucking 40s. Sure.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, think about the 40s. The 40s are just 20 years removed. We can go back and back until we get to Gangs of New York, right? The crazy fucking movie with Daniel Day-Lewis where they were killing each other. We're talking about a different era of humanity, okay? It was easy to kill people back then. In the 1960s, the people that were running show business, there was a lot of gangsters in the music business, like legitimate gangsters that would get involved in the career of Frank Sinatra, that would get involved in the career of a lot of different artists

It was very very common because they can make a lot of money and they like being big shots And they liked saying hey, I'm Jimi Hendrix manager. Let me in the door, please and these fucking people Infiltrated like that fucking guy that was in the producer that was in with the Beatles the guy who shot the chick in the mouth The guy wore the crazy wigs what the fuck is his name the wall of sound guy who shot the chick in the mouth, the guy who wore the crazy wigs. What the fuck is his name? The wall of sound guy, the producer. What's that? Phil Spector. Spector, yes.

Phil Spector. Here's a guy who used to always pull guns on people. He was a producer for the fucking Beatles. He had a very distinctive style of recording music. They used to call the wall of sound, right? Am I saying it right? That's probably the real reason they quit. Well, this guy shot a fucking woman in the mouth in Hollywood a few years back.

Took her back to his place, put a gun in her mouth, and pulled the fucking trigger and blew her brains out. Jesus Christ, man. Yeah. Some hottie that he picked up at, what was it, like House of Blues or something? Or Sky Bar or something like that. But right across the street from the comedy store is where he met her. Took her up to his mansion, blew her fucking brains out. And they tried him and convicted him, but this guy was probably doing that his whole career

because that was that was the rumor was that he would strong arm people with guns like i think that was like super common in the music business i think violence and the threat of violence kept a lot of people in business i think what like people allege that um suge knight did i think that's just a rap version of it i think people have been doing that forever it's crazy man so what she's done what she did is it's probably been done before if she did it i agree well you guys think she did it 100 god that's great you know there's you know the john lennon assassination uh conspiracy theory you know that the cia had him killed. There's a lot of shit on that. Ah, man. Did you see the guy who did it, though?

How crazy he is and his background? Right, but here's the thing. The patsies. You can get someone who's crazy to do things for you. Like, here's a perfect example. The FBI arrested this guy in Dallas for making a fake bomb and trying to detonate it. But the FBI gave him that bomb. The whole story's hilarious.

They found some really fucking stupid dude. They talked him into doing something he probably never would have done. They literally sold him all the equipment to go and do this. Or they gave him all the equipment. They gave him a cell phone to activate. To do what with it? Well, he was going to blow up some building. God damn it.

That's the technique. But here's the thing. He never was going to. to activate the whole thing. Well, he was going to blow up some building. God damn it. That's the technique. But here's the thing. He never was going to. It was never his idea. They talked him into doing it. They scheduled the whole thing. They got him the equipment. Then they arrested him.

Yeah, but you don't... It's like they created a crime. Yeah, but you don't think with John Lennon, this homeboy's crazy. You don't think he's going to sing like a canary when he's in prison? You got to look into it. Who knows? You got to look into it, man. Listen, here's the thing. You don't get to sing if they don't think he's going to sing like a canary when he's in prison? You've got to look into it. Who knows? You've got to look into it, man. Listen, here's the thing.

You don't get to sing if they don't let you talk. When was the last time you saw an interview with the guy who killed John Levin? Well, he's done interviews, though. Has he done it since the murder? Yeah. Well, you've got to look into it. It's just like the soap and bleach. You know what?

It's just as crazy as the soap and bleach. You know what I mean? If you looked into it, if someone would tell you about it, you'd be oh i don't know you don't think you don't think he was crazy he was like let me hear you let me say this i don't think i don't have any i don't even have an opinion on the john lennon thing i've never heard it before until eddie brought it up i never i mean i might have peripherally heard someone said to see i know no details though none zero zilch but that said if they wanted to kill somebody one of the best ways would be get some crazy person and infiltrate them even without their knowledge i agree you

can provide them with a weapon talk them into doing it and there's a lot of fucking morons out there yeah i agree sir and the guy the guy who allegedly killed robert f kennedy he doesn't have any recollection of uh happening. What he says is everyone says that I shot him, so I probably did. Everyone said they saw me shoot him, but I don't remember anything. Well, how about that scopolamine stuff that Colombian devil's

what do they call it? Colombian devil's dust? Devil's breath. Yeah, devil's breath. Thank you. There's this shit that they can blow. They literally can blow it In your nose They blow it on you If you breathe it in

You die You become a zombie You do what they tell you to do And you have no memory of it Like I'll blow it on you And I'll say Brandon Schaub Help me move my couch

And then all of a sudden You're fucking carrying A couch up the stairs Like a zombie Really I'm not bullshitting man That's real 100%

100% real You'll put the couch down Now here's what's really crazy That same stuff that they use is the same shit They put in drama mean and those little patches when you're getting seasick They give you like a little patch and it's like a little tiny amount of this I think it's called skull Paula me and they think that's how you say it But it's the same active ingredient as those patches that they give you to keep you from fucking getting seasick

Jesus Christ man This stuff I didn't get my hands on it. If they have a blow, they blow it in your face and they think that that might have been where the legend of zombies came from. That's why zombies, it was always like a Haitian thing. There was talk about zombies, Haitian, Columbia, like they, wherever, I don't know if it's this area that had this plant, but they think that people have been using this on people for years.

And it wasn't until like really recently that they realized the effects of this stuff. Like pharmacologists started to examine the effects of blowing this shit on people. Is there a short video on that? Yeah, yeah. Vice has a whole documentary on it. What? They have a whole thing on it. Dude.

You'll trip your balls off. Devil does? I think I did see it. It's scary stuff. But I thought it's illegal. But I didn't see in the documentary, I didn't see like a test, like testing people. That's a good point. It's scary stuff. But I thought it's illegal. But I didn't see, I didn't see in the documentary, I didn't see like a test, like testing people or any kind of.

I don't remember. It's quite a while ago where I saw it. I've watched too many documentaries. They all go in and out. I agree. Now they're like, there's no room. I have no room in my hard drive.

I got to start deleting memories of my childhood. Ooh, I'm filling my shit up. I'm trying fast to hang out with you guys. Filling it up. Yeah, but the problem is, like, stuff goes in and out now. It's like some stuff stick, like MMA stuff seems to stick like glue. And there's a few things about other things that stick like glue.

But then there's occasional documentaries that are really interesting that just, in and out. Got no room. You know what's weird is when I was a kid, I clicked football cards, and I can remember almost a tee. Every player, what college he played in. It's useless information for the reason it stuck with me. It's fucking weird, man.

I remember weird shit. We all do. There's stuff that doesn't make any sense. Why do I know this? For sure. Why do I remember this? Oh, delete. Come on, man.

Let's go here. Like the plot line of a Tom Selleck show. Magnum P.I. I can remember whole plot lines. Why do I need that? why do I need that? Why do I need that? Wow. The fucking dude who flew the helicopter, and he's helping him out, and then there's

the butler guy who lets him use the Ferrari, and he gets in trouble with it. Most of my vocabulary is from Ace Ventura or Adam Sandler. How fucking weird is that? That's hilarious. Weird. My brain was like, yo, let's download this. He might need this later. What part of Ace Ventura?

What parts do you use? Like what? I mean, I'll use all of it, man. Like what? A couple of them. All righty then. Yeah, all righty then. You know when he does the thing

where he's like, and he has a dream, and he's like, you bit me right here, and he goes, rah! I do that all the time. Literally all the time.

If I was you, I'd say for sure stop doing that. I know, man. I know. It's so weird. 100% you want to stop doing that i constantly quote uh hollywood shuffle man have you ever seen that i have not it's oh yeah that's great and robert townsend their first movie that they put together with credit cards and shit super crazy low budget it's fucking hysterical it's called hollywood shuffle remember i'm gonna get you sucker yeah that's when they started making money because of hollywood shuffle yeah that kind of was an underground hit whatever happened

hollywood townsend dude he was he has he had a hit tv show he probably has a billion dollars yeah but i mean that guy what his tv show did he have? What is it? I think it was called The Parenthood. Yeah. When the WB just started up. Listen, he definitely didn't make a billion dollars. No. I'll tell you right now. The WB ain't paying me a billion.

But he used to do like these comedy specials, like Robert Townsend Presents. Yeah. And they were like, Damon would go on and do like 10 minutes and all these different comics go on. But he was a famous, like celebrated guy back then. Yeah. Maybe he just got tired of the bullshit, man. Maybe he just got tired of the spotlight. He said, said fuck it that happened so a lot of those guys they realize

It's not worse and shit very well could because that's what Keenan's doing Keenan's behind the scenes Yeah, they probably get tired of the bullshit man some guys say Yeah, yeah, they go what what is the benefit of this yeah like Dave Chappelle look at him what he's doing man He stopped doing anything. He doesn't put anything out. No specials. He's doing stand-up, though. Kills it. Still writing.

Legend. You got to go see him live to see it, which is kind of crazy. It's kind of cool. The one time he showed up at the comedy store maybe eight years ago in the main room. Man, I've never seen you so blown away. I've never seen you. Usually, you're in the back on this guy fucking eats dicks that does that's a gross mischaracterization of

how I look at comedians like bad one but very few are really good that I'll sit down there and watch yes but like for everyone that like. I'm just exaggerating. Well, that's a, yeah, but for me, that's not a good exaggeration because. Yeah. Like there's like guys that I'll definitely go see if they're there. Like Bill Burr, I'll see him every time he's there. It's hilarious.

There's like, there's a few guys that are like really good. That's what I meant. Well, of course. Well, you're not going to steal it. But when Dave Chappelle came on, dude, you, when it was over, we were dying so hard. When it was over, you turned around and you had this look on you. You walked out of the comedy store and you said, I've never been so inspired in all my life. You just wanted to go home and write jokes and shit.

You were really inspired. When I see someone really good, that's the first instinct, right? Like, man, I want to hit another level now. I want to go home and write. I want to get my fucking thoughts in order. And, like, when you see someone that just, that's one of the best things about living in L.A. is you get to see all these, like, really great guys go up. You get to see these people go up and you go, God. I really think everybody, like, sort of feeds off each other in that regard.

You know, like, you'll watch, like, Louis C.K. did two nights at the comedy store this week. You know, he did, like, I think he did Sunday and Monday night. And then, you know, like, they'll have a show on tuesday or wednesday nights a girl will be there or you know some of the other great guys that are in town beast it's just one of the places one of the few places maybe there's only one other one i think maybe new york where that could happen like on a regular basis you'll see like top level headliners like over and over and over don't you say it's the best time i think it's the best time for comedy i think there's no there's never been more really funny comics than right now like as far as like me um as a fan like say if i never did stand up again or i never

did it at all i just watched it i just looked around and i compared this era to any other era even people i don't people i don't know like take aria out of the mix and jo Joey out of the mix and all the people I think are hilarious. I still think this is the best time ever. I look around at all these fucking people. There's so many. Stanhope and Burr and Dave Attell and Louis C.K. and Chappelle. You could keep going. Ian Edwards.

A lot of people don't even know about Ian Edwards. He's a beast. He's a fucking monster. He's so funny. Super monster, yeah. There's a bunch of those guys, man. There's guys like that in Austin, Texas. There's a beast. He's a fucking monster. He's so funny. Super monster, yeah. And there's a bunch of those guys, man. There's guys like that in Austin, Texas. There's guys like that in Denver.

There's guys like that in New York. There's guys like that in Boston. This is a really unusual time. Super unusual time. I think it's because of the internet. Because people can watch other people do stand-up now. You can see everybody's set ever. You could watch a Richard Pryor thing,

then a Eddie Murphy thing. Every guy you mentioned right there i wish i had a youtube video that was like a three hour video of just all the guys you said because anybody that impresses you that's the one thing i knew if they impressed you they gotta be good well they're on youtube eddie a mix of all those guys burn presses the fucking shit out of me right now. As does Stanhope. Every time I see Stanhope, I want to go right. He's another guy that inspires the shit out of me. We had Burr on the podcast today.

I love comedians, man. I watch all their stuff, all you guys. I think it was the first podcast where it's the least amount of time I've ever spent talking. He just went. I was like, do your fucking thing, man. Well, he does that on my podcast, too. He'll joke around about it, be an OCD or ADD or whatever the fuck he is, but it's real. It's real. He'll go from one subject to the next subject to the next subject before you even get a

word in. He'll just keep changing subjects. Boom, boom, boom. It's one of the reasons why is because he does his own podcast by himself. He's one of the few guys that does a podcast. He does it called the Monday Morning Podcast. He does it on Thursday, too. And what he does is he just turns on his iPhone or his microphone and just starts talking.

He goes. That makes sense. He goes for like an hour and a half. Bill Burr. Oh. So for an hour and a half, he just ADDs the fuck out and talks about- Just goes. He'll do a fucking- I can't.

I don't watch football, so I don't pay attention, but he'll do fucking an hour on the Patriots and just go off about scores. He's crazy, but hilarious. Hilarious. His podcast is good. His stand-up is amazing. His stand-up is amongst the best ever right now. He's one of the best ever.

And I think that between him and, like I said, you could just keep going down the line. Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. He's the most successful guy ever. Most successful tour ever. Yeah, ever. Ever. Ever by far, I think.

I think he's doing a thing in Philadelphia where he did it. I don't know if he's going to do it or did do it. He's going to do it. 50,000 seats. And it had already sold like 40,000 seats that's where he runs out or yeah it's insane he's giant he's just giant who's that black comedian that kind of went crazy for cat Williams what's it what's his current status he did a special like I want to say a year and a half ago with

Spike Lee like Spike Lee directed it and it was pretty good it was pretty good um but you know he went through a real bad spell where he was he seemed like he's kind of losing his mind yeah i saw him live in bakersfield man oh yeah he kind of melt recently or no this is when all that shit was going down maybe two years ago you saw him have a meltdown yeah there was no comedy going on there's no comedy i don't know if he was on drugs or anything. That's why he filmed a special. I think no no no no I thought since Ontario, Ontario, California. Oh, no. No, this is Bakersfield man. Really? Yeah, he was just sweating and doing push-ups on stage and running out of the audience. No jokes. He was just like Can't this pretty crazy? Yeah, so how long did this go on for we me and my wife left? This is not this is not even a show he wasn't even the audience doing

Like they weren't laughing so how like how long did he do it for? But how long did you have a day I left after a half hour. I couldn't take it So for a half an hour, he's just push-ups and right yeah I thought he was like setting up the show and he's running around and he's talking about it and it's it he lost his mind 100% and that's when all that shit was going down I don't know was it Suge Knight involved yeah yes we something was going down I don't know funny bit yeah the funny bit in a special you so you know you're fucked up when you're getting arrested and Suge Knight's right next to you.

And they're not arresting him. He's hilarious to me. And they're not arresting him. He's so funny. He's very funny. Oh, man. Yeah. He's very funny. Before that happened, he was on fire.

I couldn't wait to see him. I'm so excited. I love Cat Williams. He's hilarious. He's so good. When he was on, he was one of the best. What about Pablo Francisco? Is he still around?

I saw Pablo maybe four or five months ago at the Comedy Store. Yeah. Tracy Morgan's back. Tracy Morgan. He started doing stand-up again, but I don't think he's touring. I know he did the Comedy Cellar. It was like the first time since the accident he did that place. What happened to that?

He had an accident, exactly. What happened? They got hit by a guy who fell asleep while he was driving a semi. Walmart, right? Yeah, he was driving. He got hit by a semi? They got hit in their limo by a semi. Yeah, and one of the guys with him died.

His boy died. His buddy died. And another guy has some pretty significant brain damage. One of the other ones is like, he can't remember anything. He's all fucked up. And then Cat Tracy got a broken leg and some serious other injuries he got really jacked like real bad like i think he's still walking with the cane yeah got a huge settlement he has a he has a funny commercial for beats it can't be enough he's

like i was in a coma for a year and i come out and he got these headphones it's funny oh that's hilarious that's funny oh man funny man yeah this is the best time man best time for stand-up best time so many guys right now it's also um best time for women's stand-ups too best female comics are right now schumer's as big as it gets right now she's definitely as big popularity wise you know who is probably one of the funniest people alive right now cummings she She's hilarious. She's hilarious. She has an HBO special, too.

Yes, that's right. Who? I think it just came out, right? Whitney Cummings? It came out last week. Whitney Cummings, a beast. She's hilarious. She's fucking smart as shit. Is she black?

No, she's white. She was on the podcast like two weeks ago. She's smart as shit. She's brilliant. Yeah. She's very cool, too. She's at the comedy store all the time. I was going to say Sarah Silverman.

God damn, she's funny right now. I mean, she's always been funny, but I saw her recent set. She did a set at the Comedy Store maybe a month and a half, two months ago. Sarah Silverman? Murdered. Murdered. She's super talented. Just murdered.

And she's on right now. Comics go through stages sometimes where they're inspired or maybe they're doing too much other shit. Like maybe doing some acting. She broke into the big time a little bit for a while there. She's doing acting. She probably still does. Jimmy Kimmel. Remember that?

Yeah. She probably still does. But her stand-up right now is on fire. Eliza Schlesinger's a beast, too. I haven't seen Eliza doing a set in a long time. I've run into her. But I haven't seen her doing a set in a long time. She won Last Comic Standing. Yeah, she has some show

now. I forget what it's on. She has a podcast too. Truth and Eliza. I was first guest. For me, Whitney's the funniest. She's hilarious right now. And she works hard, dude. That girl grinds. I always see her at the store going over her notes. She's always improving bits. She doesn't

settle for the way a bit is. She makes them better. She twists them around. She adds things. Her work ethic is cray cray. What we talked about is she comes from the world of athletics. She's used to working hard. She's used to working hard for things.

She treats it almost like a competitive thing. Most people don't know. She's a writer for Two Broke Girls. She developed Two Broke Girls. She's an executive producer. It's her show. She's a gangster, dude. girls. She developed two broker. She's an executive producer. Yeah, it's her show Yeah, she's a gangster dude. Yes. She's does documentaries on the side. She contacts me about a documentary on me Yeah, I'm like what I had trauma just documentary on the side crazy man like who fucking directs documentaries on the side

But she's really open about how nuts she is So she needs to constantly fill her time with productive activities because productive things make her feel good about herself. So she's addicted to progress. Yeah. But she's really good. She's smart as shit, dude. I had to look up a couple of words.

Yeah. She'll drop some words on you like that. But she's not fucking with you. She's not like. That's her. Yeah. She's not doing it just to make you like when people drop a word on me and I know what they're doing, I go, ew, I know what you're doing.

That's a weird thing to say, too. But you kind of know when someone's doing it and when they're not. You know 100%. YouTube her commencement speech for college. It's brilliant. It's crazy. It's inspiring. It's not funny, though?

Is it funny? Yes and no, yeah. Oh, okay. I was about to say I wouldn't be mad at y'alls if you wanted to put up a two-minute clip of this Whitney Cummings. No, no, no, never. You can't do that. You can't? Oh, you fear their jokes.

No, yeah, it's their shit. And I don't know what they want out or don't want out. But if it's on YouTube. No, but there's a lot of people that have shit on YouTube they don't want on YouTube. She's probably just happy we talked about an HBO special that's coming out. Yeah, I think it's out. I think it's out right now. I think it's called I'm Your Girlfriend.

I think it came out December 18th. I want to say it was the 18th. That might be Bill Burr's F is for Family. But they might be at the same time. Bill Burr's thing F is for Family is on Netflix. It's on now on Netflix, and you can binge watch it. Man, Netflix is just turning into a legit force. January 23rd.

Okay, now we know. All right. Boom. She's awesome, though. She's very, very cool. Plus, she's like a cool chick to hang with. Like, you could talk to her. Like, on the podcast, it was just laughing and fun.

One of the best people I've ever met. Is she pretty or is that just photo shooting? Yeah, she's very pretty. She's very pretty. Yeah, she's an anomaly. She's a fucking unicorn. She's not supposed to exist. Damn.

So there's her. Jen Kirkman's really funny. Chelsea, um, um, fuck. Handler? No. What's the other one? God. What?

Chelsea Peretti. Chelsea Peretti's really funny. There's a lot of really funny. You know who's fucking hilarious? Tom Segura's wife, Christina Pazitsky. Dude, she had me crying one night in the OR. Crying. She's a comedian.

Slaying. Dude, she Crying. She's a comedian. Slaying. Dude, she's funny. She's funny. Like, really good. They just had a baby. I know. Interesting. Little Tommy.

Tom cracks me up, man. Tom's hilarious. He's fucking killing it right now. He's great. He just did his second Netflix special. He did one Netflix special, and it changed his whole comedy, like, his whole career one special He went from doing really well in clubs

He was doing really well because of his podcast because of word-of-mouth like people had heard You know he did you know you build a market like you go to Dallas you kill then people you come back You do the radio people I remember that guy's really funny If you do that over a course of a few years you can build a market Yeah, like there was a couple of places that I did that, like Houston, before I ever had anything really going on. But Tom was doing that and doing really well. And then all of a sudden he does his Netflix special. Boom!

Now he's selling out theaters. That was the tilt. Boom! Yeah, well, he had the product. He had the funny comedy. For sure. Yeah. And Ari just sold out 1,200 seats in Toronto.

Holy shit. 1,200 seats in Toronto. Holy shit. 1,200 seats for Ari Shaffir. That's incredible. I know, and I was like, dude, what was that? And we were talking about it. He's like, it's amazing. Ari was ready to throw in the towel just a few years ago with life. With life?

He was suicidal. Yeah. He was unhappy. And one of the things that I don't know if I think pretty sure he's talked about this on the podcast, but he was taking Propecia and Propecia one of the side effects for some people is depression I fucking told Callan it's bad. It's depressing his calendar taking that shit. Yes, and that's when he's been kind of fucking I'm seeing this here lately. Yeah, I agree He's short. He doesn't want to he wants to he wants to act it wants the stage to be on the stage he loves acting he doesn't want to admit it but he loves it I agree he's like I don't need to do it he loves good at it I know doing it

like on sitcoms and in television shows and in in movies like those parts he does it's great bachelor or not the bachelor the hangover hangover fucking funny yeah he's really Chicago he he fucking ripped my soul apart, man. His fucking, he was on fire. That's my point. His stand-up is really what he's best at. Yeah. That's his gift.

And the more, it's like one of those things. He likes doing it, but it's tricky. The more time you spend doing other things, like acting. Acting, especially 16-hour days on set, especially if you get a sitcom or something like that, there's a lot of time where you don't get to do stand-up. He's doing that, our podcast, the motherfucker, now, with everything we've got going on.

How often do you guys go a week? Two or three times a week, and then we have the digital series, which, you know, that takes... Damn, you're doing two or three times a week. Yeah. Wow. It's crazy, isn't it?

Isn't it crazy that podcasting was just like a goof just a little while ago? We started wife beaters in Brian's garage, just like fucking around. Like, this is a terrible idea. I don't want to do this. But isn't that always how these things work? Two wife beaters.

These things work because you're fucking around. Like a show, if this was produced on television, right? And your show was uh someone came up to you and they said this is our idea we're gonna dress you up in the finest fashions and we're gonna light you we're gonna put your makeup on and then we're gonna you know tell you what to talk about ready go you'd never be able to call yourself big dick bandits and start singing

stupid songs and callan would start singing a song about something they would cut you off like cut you can't you can't sing a song about the muscles in your back you know you, they would cut you off. They'd cut. You can't sing a song about the muscles in your back. You know? They would say, but since it's just you guys and you're just fucking around, then it becomes what it is. And then after it becomes what it is, it gets bigger and bigger until someone comes along and says, hey, why don't you guys do that for us? It's crazy. Yeah.

It's insane. It is insane. Oh, you guys. Thank baby. Do you guys ever get in trouble for anything you say? Fox, because our numbers have been so good, they're kind of just like, let them do their thing. I don't know if they like us. They tried to get you guys to stop swearing.

Oh, yeah. Which is hilarious. Yes. We had a meeting. They're like, is there any way you can say dick less and stop swearing? I mean, is that at all possible? I mean, kind of like, no, if you censor us, we gotta go somewhere else.

They can't. They're like, do your thing. They can't stop it. Once things get big, they can't stop it. It starts rolling. They can't stop it. And then once you stop fighting for the UFC, nobody can tell you what to do.

It's weird. Nothing, I can say whatever I want. There's no strings. You're like fucking Pinocchio. I have no strings to hold me down, to make me sad or make me frown. I had strings, but now I'm free. There are no strings on me. Hi-ho the Mario, nothing ever bothers me.

I love this. It's so true. I want the world to know. What the love this It's so true I want the world to know What the fuck It's weird man Think about it I'd be in camp right This time last year

You know I was trying to decide What the fuck I'm gonna do Yeah It gets tricky man Trying to plot your life out It's like when things start getting going Then it's like Once you find something

It starts getting going Then it's just follow through with it and and stay on it and stay focused stay the course but for a lot of people like young guys like i got a nephew and talking to my nephew about like what he wants to do i'm like you gotta find what you want like what is it you want yes but for a lot of people it's hard to find a thing once you find a thing then you're like fuck i'm going for it you know like once you find a thing then then you're like, fuck, I'm going for it. That's the issue. Once you find a thing, then you go for it. But it's hard to find a thing for a lot of people. And then there's a lot of people that have a gig.

So they have a thing that they love. Maybe they like tattooing or something like that. But they got this job. So they can only tattoo on Saturday mornings. And their wife gives them a hard time. And they're like, I'm thinking about becoming a tattooist. Oh my god, you're not going to make any money. You know, and they will like I'm thinking about becoming a tattooist oh my god you know you know and they have a hard time ever finding their thing and making it a gig so when you get something like what you guys have you found a thing and

it's taken off and now you're selling out all these shows like you guys are killing it everywhere yeah they're selling out everywhere they're selling out all over the country they do these live fighter in the kitchen I see I follow them on Instagram you know what I like your flyer. That was my favorite so far is your face on Callum's head and his face on your head hideous Alex fucking Someone photoshopped a fan is it I'll shop Steve. I don't know who was it might be I don't know Yeah, cuz it's really good.

It was weird. I was like, oh my God. Did it bother you? I look like a pedophile. I look like I sell Subway sandwiches. I look terrible. I look terrible. Things are good, man. We barely talked about fighting. You know what's interesting? We haven't at all. Great lights. You know what's interesting, man,

is how the UFC hasn't done their own podcast yet. I talked to them about doing it a while back. I think there was some mention about it, but I think the swearing thing was also an issue with them. There was some concern. Meanwhile, Dana swears more than you. He doesn't anymore.

He doesn't anymore. Fox said, bitch, please. He very rarely swears like he used to. He used to have those press conferences and he would swear. i think he probably still does a little every now and then maybe barely but i think he also realizes it just causes more problems than it is it's like the freedom that you get from speaking your mind saying whatever you want it's almost like it's not worth it because it causes so many so many hassles and so many fires that you have to put out. We want to be taken serious.

You don't see like Roger Goodell cussing about Tom Brady. I don't think people would look at the sport serious if he kept doing that. That's true. Well, you know what, man? I don't want his job. Dana White's job is fucking brutal. That guy works so hard, and he's constantly working, and shit is constantly falling apart. There's always constantly like a new blowout, a new this, a new that, a new fucking fire he has to put out.

It never stops. It never ends. It pays well. What, like $40 million a year? It pays pretty good. I don't know what it pays. I'll figure it out. I've never asked.

I'd figure things out. Would you? You fight him. Would you take that gig? No, you wouldn't. You'd go right back to podcasting. I'd podcast everywhere. Would you take that gig? No, you wouldn't. You'd go right back to podcasting. And then you would start talking about it. I'd podcast everywhere.

That's a million dollars, though, right there. Well, I think, you know. I like the freedom to do what the fuck I want to do. See, the thing is, you wouldn't get that kind of money unless you did what he did, which was, like, build it from the beginning. Like, you don't get that money if you come in as a fucking executive now. Like, if they had to hire some new guy to be the president. No, he's not getting a share.

No, that guy's getting a good salary. He'll make some good money. But the Dana White effect is when the sport is, like, non-existent. Yeah, and you got two rich friends. You got two rich friends. They put up mad cash. They lose a fuckload.

They were $44 million in the hole before it turns around with the Ultimate Fighter, and then it takes off and becomes this giant sport. The rich friends were key though. Gigantic. Not just rich friends, but Eddie and I talked about this. It's almost like,

it's almost like we're in a movie because we would always say the same thing. We would always say the same thing. What we used to say. There's no way the sport isn't going to take over. It's impossible. Yeah. But what did we say? We said this is what the sport needs. Two

super rich dudes that are worth billions of dollars that don't give a fuck. Just throw all this money at the sport and make it big. Yep. And that's exactly what happened. You found them. That's exactly what happened. And they fucked up along the way. They hired Carmen Electra to be their spokesperson at one point in time. See, I dug that.

Remember that? Oh, yeah. I dug that. Was Paris Hilton involved as well? No. With what? No. He's Carmen Electra. Yeah, no.

They had to draw the line somewhere. I don't even think Chuck was the king back then. I think Chuck wasn't the champion. I think Tito was. I mean, you gotta mix things up. Remember when they had girls doing post-fight interviews

for a while? Oh, they did, yeah. They had a few. Remember when they had girls doing post-fight interviews for a while? Oh, they did. Yeah. They had a few. That was funny. I forget who they were. Very nice girls. Super nice girls.

It was Carmen Electra with Tito and Vitor. Dude, she was a dime piece back then. That was light heavyweight Vitor. Fuck yes. Yeah. Wow. Crazy. I am not mad at that.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Interesting um they tried a bunch of different things they just tried to get people to pay attention to it and it wasn't until the ultimate fighter what's crazy is the ultimate fighter almost didn't get made almost didn't get made they had to pay for the whole thing it's basically a giant infomercial right they had to essentially pay spike tv nobody gave a fuck about spike tv time, yeah. And then they put together this show, and they're losing so much fucking money. You got to take risks, though. And then they get to the finals, and Forrest Griffin is fighting Stefan Bonner, and the whole fucking world tunes in.

Calling each other. Then it takes off. It just grows. It was like the seed that got planted. Look at that Carlos Newton. Who remembers him? Dude, look at Jens Pulver. Look at Randy. Look at Izzo.. Look at Jen's pulver. Look at Randy.

Look at Izzo. Oh my goodness. Pedro Izzo. Wow. Pedro just fought his last fight. Just retired a couple months ago. Get ready for a lesson in submission. That's not a moose knuckle, is it?

That's the whole leg. Dude, that's the biggest moose knuckle ever. That's not a knuckle. That's the whole thigh. that's a moose ham dude she is a design she was very hot she's very nice too i did a spike tv thing with her we hosted this car show together she's super like down to earth really really nice is she married now i don't know i'm not a gossip hound jamie is i'll. Ask him. He probably knows. Is she taken to him? She's older.

She's probably still hot as fuck. Oh, I agree. She did post-fight interviews, right? And didn't, like, there was a Playboy Playmate. Remember? There was that blonde one. Yeah, there was another one. I forget who it was.

And then Casey Kasem's daughter did it. Carrie Kasem. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you gotta try, you gotta swing. You know, you can't hold on to it. Well, you know what they were doing? They were just, they were doing a bunch of different things

They got on Best Damn Sports Show Remember that? Yes And Leanne Tweeden Did part of that as well Leanne Tweeden How does that Super nice too

She's super cool Very smart too Smart She's fucking sharp She's easy on the eyes So she was But she was only involved in one Because it was with Best Damn Sports

Show. Well, what's up with, I don't know if you can talk about it, because Dominic, they're trying now, where this is the first time ever in a main event, they had Dominic Cruz in there with the three It was awesome. I would like to do it with him all the time. He's fucking great. He's great and he got me fired up. He's a smart dude. He's great. He's a smart

dude and his knowledge of MMA is just fucking outstanding. Especially footwork and positioning and striking. He's a smart dude. He's great. He's a smart dude, and his knowledge of MMA is just fucking outstanding, especially footwork and positioning and striking. He's a technician. Super technical. And we did the Fox Sports prelims together, or the, excuse me, the Fight Pass prelims together. And you looking for the joint?

There's another lighter. Where's the lighter? Oh. There's one in here. We did the, oh, there's one right in front of you, dude. Oh, shit. We did the, uh, FS one, no, uh, fight pass, fight pass prelims together, the three prelims. And he was outstanding, man.

And we also did a lot of talking backstage. He and I talked, um, we, uh, we, we share philosophies. No, I'm good, dude. We were talking about, um, uh, upcoming matchups, like how we thought about this fight or that fight and what he, I'm good, dude. We were talking about upcoming matchups, like how we thought about this fight or that fight. He really favored Cowboy over Dos Anjos, which I thought was interesting. Yeah, I think a lot of people did.

Yeah. I thought it was a who-the-fuck-knows fight. Me too. I felt like the pressure that Dos Anjos put on Pettis, I felt like that's going to fuck with anybody, man. I agree. It's going to be tough to beat that guy. Very tough. With all that jiu-jitsu, too.

Yep. You get him to the ground. He's a knockout artist. Someone's going to have to catch him when he's making that mad charge, and I think someone with the kind of footwork that Conor has might have the best chance. But if those two do match up,

you're going to see pressure that Conor's never experienced before. And he's also got Rafael Cordero, who's a phenomenal striking coach. One of the best in the world. He's going to break down what Conor's doing and Conor's movement. Good luck breaking that down. You're right. Because we haven't seen enough footage to really break that down,

and we haven't seen Conor with that pressure. You know what I'm saying? The other thing is when Conor hits people with that left hand, it's game over. Oh, it's nuts. I don't think it's game over for Dos Anjos. He's too big. He's a bigger guy. It might be, but you're talking about a different weight class now.

Where does he lose the power? Does he take the power totally into the lightweights, and then he loses it at welterweight? Could he still knock out welterweights? What about Conor versus... He knocked out Benson, and Benson's fighting welterweight, and he fought Brandon Thatch, and Thatch is a big fucker. He's big, and he hits hard as a welterweight, Thatch didn't put away Benson but Dos Anjos did Dos Anjos

fucked him up he was the first guy to stop Benson yes I think Dos Anjos has like the kind of power that he takes wherever like he probably 155 is probably optimum he does look very thin though on the weigh-ins he's definitely sucking some some weight. There's no IVs either now. No IVs now, but he looked amazing. Amazing. And the other thing is people are talking about people looking different before the PED scare or before the testing. You can't say that about him.

He looks exactly the same. He looks better than ever. I agree. And you also, there's no radical change from the first time he was in the UFC. What you see with Dos Anjos is a slow, steady progression. Until, like, the Nick Curzon days, then you see, like, a little stronger, a little faster. And then you see the Pettis fight, just phenomenal cardio. That's the thing that blew me away the most about that fight.

The amount of cardio that he had to have to put that pace on Pettis for five rounds. I mean, that's just, you've got to be in insane condition. It's going to be tough to beat that guy. Then you find out that in that fight, for the two weeks before the fight, he fucked his knee up. So he had to do airdyne sprints. That's all he did for the two weeks before the fight.

He couldn't do any sparring. Non-stop. And he still put it to him. It's insane. There was nothing wrong. And then you saw him in this fight, 100% healthy. He's a fucking monster. I talked to Ryan Parsons about him,

and Ryan Parsons said he was telling him two years ago. He's like, if you keep going, you are the champion of the world. Like, it's just a matter of time. Ryan knows his shit. Ryan knows his shit. And Ryan was telling me he was watching him, no names, but just fuck dudes up. Dudes that are, like, really high-level UFC caliber fighters. And Dos Anjos just fucking dudes up. Dudes that are like really high level UFC caliber fighters,

and Dos Anjos just fucking them up in the gym. Dude, he's a horrible matchup for anyone, including Conor. He's a tough matchup, man. A bigger guy with that pressure and can grapple. And nasty power, man. His power is nasty. The question is, would he be able to have that same kind of approach on Conor, who is very elusive, very light on his feet?

Like, you saw with the Aldo fight, how he's moving, he's moving back, he's throwing sidekicks to the legs, he's moving back. Like, would he be able to just do what he did with Cowboy to Conor? Would he be able to do that same approach? Like, look for that straight shot. He throws that straight left hand a lot. The other thing to take into consideration, this is a a big thing is that this would be connor fighting a southpaw a super dangerous southpaw true and one of the things about southpaws fuck you up man

they confuse the shit out of you everything's coming from the wrong side everything's weird the the right hand is now the jab the jab is. Like, what? There's a lot of huge factors. Yeah. A, can Dos Anjos deal with Conor's speed? Yep. Does Conor have the knockout power at 55 against a bigger guy? I think he does. I really do. I agree. I think he does. Because he's not got as much weight. And his power is so substantial. And angles.

He's surprising guys with his angles. Yeah. There's a lot that goes into that fight, man. Again, I'm not taking anything from Dos Anjos. He's an amazing champion. I don't know if that's the marquee fight, though. As crazy as that sounds, the world's a weird place. But here's what the thing.

It might be after Fox. Because you've got to think that UFC on Fox has got millions of people to watch. And we saw a destroyer in Dos Anjos. But what are we talking about? What's everyone talking about? Diaz. You are talking about Diaz. That is true. That is true.

That is true. Because of that post-fight interview. Yes. But I still think people are talking about Dos Anjos too. A little bit because he just kind of murked cowboy in 66 seconds. They both work, but Nate Diaz just, you know, Dos Anjos has the belt. You got that, you know, but it makes sense that you go with Nate Diaz because of all the shit talking and all that. know but it makes sense that you go with nate diaz because of all the shit talking and all that and maybe that makes sense and and also you know you maybe you know

some people say you can't go up and wait and contend for the belt right away it's a good uh fight before the thing is it puts 145 in limbo yeah the one of the things about the ufc though is they don't give a fuck. They don't have to follow the rules. One of the good things about not being constrained by a WBC or an IBF, like boxing is... Good and bad. Yeah. We were talking about the Vladimir Klitschko fight that they stripped Vladimir...

Not Vladimir. Tyson Fury, who beat Vladimir Klitschko. They stripped him of one of his titles immediately because he didn't want to fight the mandatory number one contender. So they immediately stripped him within two weeks, right? Yeah. It's like really quick. And that wouldn't happen in the UFC. Just not going to happen.

And in the UFC, the mandatory contender is whoever the fuck they say. Whoever they can sell. Yeah. If they say, look, this is all about making money. And Nate Diaz is going to make some fucking money. And I have no complaints about that. I like that. Yeah, but if you were a fighter, that would drive you crazy.

It'd drive you fucking nuts. It's business. But if you were the number one contender like Frankie Edgar, and you've been beating dudes' asses, and you've been fucking up everybody, and you just knocked out Chad Mendes in spectacular fashion, and before that, you beat Uriah Faber, clearly, and then beat the brakes off Cub Swanson and submitted in the fifth round.

And you're a former light champ. And before that, you beat the fuck out of BJ Penn. But it's not going to happen right now, and it should happen right now. If you're Frankie Edgar, and you've been a respectful guy who's just been going out there and fighting his ass off, and beating guys' asses, you're like, that

fucking guy deserves his shot at the title. What about Jose? He gets fucked out of all this. Yep. My bad. I was undefeated for 10 years, one of the best champions of all time, and I don't deserve a shot? Nope.

You know what? Here's the thing about that. Here's the problem with that. The only problem with that is in business, Conor could fight right away. Conor knocked him out with one punch. He's fine. Jose, for all intents and purposes, should take a long time off. I agree.

At least five or six months, right? I agree. He has to. I mean, you really should. Because if you don't, you got flatlined like that and you come back quick, we all know what happens. You can't take a shot as well. So when he's healthy, he should get a shot right away. But this is where contractual agreements have to fall into play when it comes to champions, right?

Because if this was any other situation, I guarantee you, if Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, if Floyd Mayweather got knocked out by Manny Pacquiao, there's got to be some shit in the contract that says that Floyd gets an immediate rematch, and he gets it within, I think he said he is. I know what the contract was. So if Manny won, there have to be two more fights if Manny won. If Floyd wins, there's no more fight. That was the contract they signed.

How crazy is that? Well, you would think that Aldo would. But you can't. They don't have the power. That's the thing. Daniel goes, here's your contract. Sign it. There you go.

Yeah, and you're going to get paid. And I'm sure he got paid. I'm sure he made a million bucks at least. Although, yeah. How much do you think Conor made? Oh, he probably made six or seven. I would guess that, but that's what I've been. I haven't asked.

I know too much that I can't talk about, but I haven't asked his actual salary, but he got paid a lot of money, I would guarantee you. But he wants even more now. He deserves more. Now, I mean. He shouldn't fight for anything less than $20 million. Dude, he shows a photo of his underwear on Instagram. It gets 100,000 likes.

I mean, he can do whatever he wants. He's the biggest star we ever had. If I'm Connor, I'm his management, and I don't give a fuck what his current contract is, I say, I'm not doing anything until I get $20 million to fight. He was a giant star before he knocked out Aldo. Now he's a mega star. He's like, he's eating suns. He's the biggest thing we've ever had swallowing up galaxies three three badasses called him out yeah three three in one car one night yeah dos anjos um uh nate and um

charles olivera he's the floyd mayweather of our of the ufc right now everyone wants to fight him for the see for the for the payday. But he's way different, though, because he's knocking guys dead. Not the same fighter. I'm saying as far as you want to fight him to make that money. Yeah, but even that, like, do you ever remember a boxing match where three winners called out Mayweather? Like, that's never happened before.

This is like everybody sees, like, ka-ching. They're all like, your shirt, Scrooge McDuck. Yeah, Scrooge McDuck, like, come on, son! Ha-ha! Ka-ching! Yeah, it's true, man. We've never seen anything like it. You know, they want all the stardom, they want all the perks, they want all the cash, and they think that they could beat him.

Look at that. This is hilarious. Yeah, he says that people think that it was a clean knockout, but it's actually a fight against multiple attackers. How he's hipping away from Big John. Have you seen that video where Big John knees him in the face? No, he didn't knee him in the face. Oh, no.

Have you seen the video? I've seen it. His shin brushed over the top of Aldo's face. Looks like he hit him hard. Big John's the best in the business. That's crazy to look at, isn't it? That he just knocked him dead with one shot. Insane. Whack. business that's crazy to look at isn't it that he just knocked him dead with one shot insane

it's interesting um that there's this this new emergence of this one guy who talks and it sort of changes everyone's approach boy did we need him though oh my god did the ufc need everybody needed him every every i mean i think the the Ireland needed him to you know, they needed like a hero like this world needed him Well, the UFC's the UFC's a better place with Conor McGregor. You can't say that about here's fighters But here's the thing Okay When we talk about like Rhonda right like Rhonda did a lot of shit talking to and Rhonda was his over-the-top personality But when she lost like there was

so much hate against her so much backlash for her behavior she brought it on herself she did but my point is Holly emerges as this perfect opposite of that perfect opposite of that she's super nice like she's really friendly and respectful and it's legit like when you talk to her no there's no fakeness off camera she's exactly the same way super confident and also like really nervous about letting anything go to her head like she's talking about i want to get back in the gym she's also paid her dues yeah she's like i don't even want to talk about this because i don't even like all this attention because i don't want to get carried away but isn't that like that the ufc needs that too like the ufc needs someone

who comes along like holly now yeah and the UFC needs someone who comes along like Holly now and they also need someone who comes along and shows the multi-faceted approach of MMA that we all know and and see every day in the men's divisions is now making its way to the women's division at a very high level instead of having the one person like Hoist Gracie was in the early UFCs would dominate with jiu-jitsu right right? Nobody knew what the fuck was going on. He would dominate. Nobody else could keep up with him technique-wise. There's a very similar situation with Ronda.

Like, Ronda's dominating all these girls with arm bars. Everybody knows the arm bars are coming. They can't stop it. So she starts to evolve her game. She starts knocking out people like Sarah McMahon and Alexis Davis. And her game starts to evolve. And then someone comes along who has the perfect solution for that. And that perfect solution is very similar to what we saw in the men's divisions

when men learned how to sprawl and brawl and we saw world-class kickboxers like Maury Smith yes when Maury Smith entered the UFC against Mark Coleman we went oh look at this and then we see this sort of progression and now you're seeing the women's division in the women's division too it's like girls want to fight Ronda but they weren't it's not like the connor effect where if you fight connor you're making fucking bank the girls a lot of them they got smoked so fast they got maybe a couple hundred grand maybe not even that and just get smoked it was more of the ronda show you know i'm saying it was a different animal well she was. Because she was that dominant. She was that dominant. And I don't think you can compare at all, competition-wise, what's available to a man's 145-pound champion versus a woman's 135-pound champion.

Not even close. That's why when people say Ali Frazier, what the fuck? No. It's not even in the ballpark. There's nowhere, nothing like it. There's some good talent in the division. It's shaping up. You've got that new Russian chick that just entered.

She's a 17-time world Muay Thai champion 17 different is that different organization is that the chick that fought Sarah Kaufman I didn't notice is that or is that someone different yes yes she fought Sarah Kaufman on eight days no crap yeah and And she just stayed in the gym, luckily. She was in pretty good shape. But to take a fight on TV, seven days notice. For the women's division. She's really good. And her striking is

fucking super high level. Super high level striking. You're going to see those, is my point. You're going to see these Maury Smith types, but now they enter into MMA. You're going to see the Kira Gracie. Kira Gracie doesn't want to do it. I don't think she has a desire to do MMA.

But you're going to see someone like her. She stopped training? I don't think she wants to fight. I don't know if she's set a fight up or scheduled a fight. Apparently she's been training. She's so pretty. If she's smart, she would just keep training. I read something about her saying that she's not into fighting, though.

Not anymore? Maybe it was just a bad translation. Maybe she changed her mind. I don't know. I know she was into it for a while, but I don't know. And if we haven't heard anything from her, it's probably a smart thing on her behalf. Just disappear and go train for a few years.

But just imagine if you get someone like a female Gary Tonin who decides, like, you know what? I'm just going to start strangling bitches. I'm just going to make my way into MMA, and these girls can't fuck with my jiu-jitsu. Fuck that noise. What if you get a Serena Williams? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. What?

She's like, let me see the armbar. Got it. Badoosh! Just ripping bitches' faces off. Yeah, if you get that level. That level athlete who commits to it. Or a Marion Jones-like. And they go, wait, I can make money over here? Oh, yeah. I'm gonna do this. How about get one of those track and field chicks and teach them how to

kick? Good fucking Lord. You know, that's one of the things about Aldo. It does, but that was one of the things about Aldo, you know. Aldo started off playing soccer. Yes. It's one of the reasons why his fucking leg kicks were so nasty. Soccer, then jiu-jitsu. And then he started picking up and doing stand-up.

His leg kicks were fucking ridiculous. Crazy. And it's because of that. And then it's kind of fucked and he gets kind of left out of it. He's the one who gets fucked in this. What do you do when a guy gets knocked out like that in 13 seconds? In the fairest world possible. As soon as he's ready to go, he gets to fight for the belt.

You owe it to him. You do. You owe it to him. But do you allow him to choose between a rematch with McGregor or if Frankie beats McGregor, he fights Frankie for the belt again? He fights for the belt no matter who has it.

Do you let a fight happen in between his fight? Do you give him the time to recover? Yes. Or do you put the belt aside, put it on hold, and say the belt does not get fought for until Aldo comes back. Well, that's what you're doing with Ronda.

It is what you're doing with Ronda. It is. It's his exact... Well, don't say you. No, no, I'm not saying you. I'm saying Scrooge McDuck. Right. But that is how they look at it.

They look at it in terms of finances. They think that if you look at Holly, Holly almost lost to Raquel Pennington in her pro debut, or UFC debut, rather. Yeah. She won a split decision to Raquel in a close fight. Then she fought Marion Renew. Is that who she fought? Beat her, and beat her decisively.

Then just pulled out the fucking performance of a lifetime against a charging opponent, someone who really played into her strengths. If you look at the aggression that Ronda had, none of the other fights that she had, no one was that aggressive chasing after her. People were much more respectful of her striking ability. But Ronda just charged right at her. She also didn't fight anyone really high level. Ronda didn't.

That's striking. No, not at all. They were all very amateur. And if you look at, at least on paper, like credential-wise, no one's as high level as Holly in MMA and in the women's division, other than Ioannou and Jacek. And this new woman, yeah, Shvevchenko. It's a tough name, man. Yeah, it's rough. There was a couple tough ones on that card.

But Holly is like a 19-time, how many times did she win? Nine-time. Nine-time world boxing champion. This chick's 17-time world Muay Thai champion. Then you've got Ioannou and Jacek, six-time world Muay Thai champion. Then you've got Ioana Jacek, six-time world Muay Thai champion. I just think with Jose Aldo,

what he's done for the sport, give him time off, let him heal, and then let everything else figure itself out, make these huge fights, and then when Jose goes, all right, I'm ready,

a year from now, you give him the title. Hasn't everybody jumped in? No, that's what I was going to say. Have they made the decision already? No. No, I don't think... Didn't Dana say the winner of...

Wasn't there a quote that Dana said the winner of Cerrone-Dos Anjos gets Conor? I think what he said was that Conor could fight for the lightweight title next. There could be a fight they do. Oh, he never guaranteed anybody anything. But even if he does, they take it back. It doesn't matter. Misha was guaranteed the title. She was pissed.

If she beat Jessica Ai. She beats Jessica Ai and they're like, back. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Misha was guaranteed the title. She was pissed. If she beat Jessica Ai. She beats Jessica Ai and they're like, eh. Like, we're good. Change of plans. Yeah, they just changed it on her. It's tough, man. Look, man. But you know, Diaz did say, if you perform, they'll make it happen.

I think he might have been high as fuck when he said that. He said in an interview right after, he goes, Joe Silva guaranteed me I'd get Conor. I'll tell you one thing. Buy some shit. I got to give props to Jeff Nowitzki, not just for what he's done to scare the fuck out of everybody and make them all get off the sauce. Because he's definitely done that. That's the word. But also, he was outspoken about Nick Diaz, about Nick Diaz's suspension.

He said it's not right. He said it's not right finances bullshit yeah here you got a guy who's the fucking USADA you saw the drug guy and he's saying it's bullshit he's done it's a bullshit fuckers you're talking about Barry Bonds Lance Armstrong big Marion yeah Jones uh-huh yeah he went after everybody that's how we did in cycling is there you just say is they test for weed and cycling I Is there... What did you say? Do they test for weed in cycling? I think they do.

You know, there was a study recently that showed that ultra-marathoners benefit from weed. I think they eat it. I think they eat it and it helps them run more. Weird. Not all of them. Why did you say that? Why did you say not all of them? Well, not all marathon runners smoke weed.

No, no, no, but the ones that do. Yeah, it benefits them. You say not all of them. I mean, some guys eat weed and it doesn't do shit for them. They run off track. I meant like not all. You went to the Joshua Tree's Highest Flood running through the woods. It sounded like you said all marathon runners eat. No, I said ultra.

Ultra. Ultra marathon runners? Here it is. The debate over running while high. For ultra marathon runners, marijuana has enormous benefits, but is it ethical? What is this in, Jamie? What's the Wall Street Journal? Wall Street Journal is writing about it.

Well, that's pretty legit. Powerful Wall Street Journal. Yeah, that's... Whoa. I thought it was going to be some bullshit. The world's changing, Eddie Bravo. Dude. Since you first got me high 15 years ago, the world has changed radically.

Yeah. Yeah. Eddie Bravo's the catalyst. That's El diablo right there the first joint we had an ice cream sunday i was never the same where's that devil dust son that colombian i'm trying to get on that shit everybody thought i was the crazy stoner man i was like god i gotta get joe if i could get joe fucking stoned they won't think i'm crazy yeah that was i mean shit, there were so many misconceptions.

So many people have misconceptions. To this day, they have misconceptions. It's the pothead culture that kind of fucked you. Well, you know what it is, man? There are some people that are just fucking lazy. And the idea is that pot gets you lazy. Yes. That's not true. You know, I think it does the opposite, to me at least.

Depends who you are, yes. But to me, it makes me paranoid of being lazy. How about that? So it might be good for you. I get high and I want to get things done. I'm like, oh, I got to clean my office. Some people get high and just don't move and eat Cheetos. And then blame it on that.

I really believe those people would just do the same thing. Yeah, they're lazy no matter what. I really do. I really think there's a lot of people that are just lazy. There's also a lot of people that are just not thinking right. They just not, like, you don't enjoy rest unless you deserve it That's the reality of life if you just fucking off your whole life. It's not as fun like Rest is fun when you deserve it

Yes like it feels good to eat after you work out like if you lift and you fucking Beat your ass in the gym, and then you go have a steak Oh, it's the most delicious food ever this but if you just have a steak Yeah, it's delicious, but you don't even know how good it is Don't know how good it is if you just pushed your body before you ate it you would enjoy it so much more I mean you might not be in the lifting or your any kind of working out that might not be your thing But my point is it like if there's some things that you really need to do and you say you fuck off

And you don't do them and you get late, you're going to hate yourself. Yeah. There's going to be a part of you that knows you didn't do the shit you were supposed to do. And if you fuck off and you get too lazy and don't accomplish things, you're not going to enjoy the rest as much as you do when you do accomplish things. Like you talk about it. Like you get home from class. You work all day, teach class. You get home and you watch Netflix.

It's a joy. Dude, I love. I'm almost done with Breaking Bad. I always wait. I always wait. So a hundred people tell me, dude, you got to see it. You haven't seen it, dude. You got it.

It's the greatest show on TV, bro. I got to hear that a hundred times. I'm like, cool. I want it to be true. I just need to hear it because. I can't get into it. I watched one. Breaking Bad?

No, you got to. You got to. It's good. Go back. Go back. I watched the first one, too. And I didn't like the pilot too much. Me neither. But people kept saying

you gotta give it time. Really? Yeah, the characters, it's a great show. I watched the whole first season when I was getting my right arm done. When I was getting my right arm tattooed, I watched it all on the iPad. That's the best. Getting tattooed while you're watching a good show because you don't even notice it.

You're like, this annoying thing on my arm. I look over, ooh. And then go back to, ooh, that's good. And I just started Walking Dead. Awful Aaron De La Vedova. Just started Walking Dead. Oh, Walking Dead's good. You really liked it, right?

Oh, I love it. Walking Dead? No, no, you haven't seen it. No, I've seen Walking Dead. It's good? It's good. It shits the bed for one season, though. I'm going to tell you this right now, and I want to tell you when.

There's a part in time where I was like, these motherfuckers, I'm ready tell you this right now and I want to tell you when there's a part in time I was like these motherfuckers I'm ready to leave this show and then they fired everybody they hired all the new writers and they just brought it back from the dead with a redeemed themselves it hit a rough spot where a lot of goes but they recognized it of course that's all not the no I haven't seen our co-dare are you kidding me it's gonna be hard to watch yeah no seriously you have no I'm in the middle of this fucking the president show though I'm in the middle of cards right now. Okay. I'll jump on that dude I'm to two episode one and a half actually I watched it on the plane an American Airlines

I got a little screen thing in front of you. They had Netflix on TV back. We're all excited about TV, man And you know years ago. We said TV sucks. No, what brought it in? HBO and the internet, uncensored. That's what made it back. Correct. And even when you're watching those shows like Breaking Bad, it's cable. They can say things you can never say on network. And show things, yeah. They can't say everything, but they can get close.

Like Walking Dead, they get close. They could get away with way more, but they still have commercials. Commercials fuck everything up. They're terrible. You gotta watch it on Netflix or on Apple TV. I subscribe to those things. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Apple TV, man. That's the shit. The best.

I need a new show, man. I need one. We're all excited about shows. I'm telling you. Shit, TV's good again. House of Cards. One episode. Ten minutes into the first episode I was like, oh, yeah. It's good. I need that shit. I gave up on The Last Man on Earth, man. I heard it sucks.

I got to like a season and a half. I'm like, fuck, I can't do it no more. I heard it started off really good. Yeah. You know, the performance, the head guy, he's fucking brilliant. He's so funny. He's so good. But he's so good at annoying you.

You hate that character so much that you end up hating the show because you hate's so funny. He's so good, but he's so good at annoying you. You hate that character so much that you end up hating the show because you hate him so much. Wow. Damn. He plays the biggest douchebag ever. He's the last man on earth. He's the guy from Saturday Night Live, right?

I don't know if he's in Saturday Night Live, but he did Tim and Eric stuff. He is. Oh, shit. You know what else is really good? The new Bob and Dave show. Like, the guys who did Mr. Show with Bob and Dave. Bob and Dave? Yeah. Yeah. Bob Odenkirk and Dave Cross.

Yeah. The new one is fucking hilarious. It's really good. I watched one episode of that. That's another Netflix show. I was balls deep in The Wire for a while. Did you watch The Wire? I watched one episode.

I never got into it. The Wire? I know. It's supposed to be awesome. I think Wire? I watched one episode. I never got into it. The Wire? I know. It's supposed to be awesome. I think I went into the second episode, but it was years ago. People keep saying The Wire, too. They keep saying it. That's on the back burner.

I haven't done it yet. I know. I need to. Jamie's nodding. I know. It's legit as fuck. I know. I need to.

But I need to watch all these goddamn documentaries, too. Everybody's always telling me. That's my favorite thing, documentaries. There's so many documentaries out there. I need a good one. People tweet me a good documentary. Well, you're going to get overwhelmed. Well, I'll just take- Prepare for the fucking cavalcade of chem thing, documentaries. There's so many documentaries out there. I need a good one. People tweet me a good documentary, please. Oh, you're going to get overwhelmed. Well, I'll just take-

Prepare for the fucking cavalcade of chemtrail documentaries. No, no, I'm not into that. I don't need conspiracy theories. I need some legit shit. Hand me your phone right now. Hey, let me ask you this, heavyweight. Heavyweight? Where do you put Alistair Overeem now?

He just knocked the fuck out. Junior Dos Santos. Against the number two guy. Not only that, he's the first guy to ever fight Junior and not take any damage. He took zero damage. Who the fuck else has ever fought Junior Dos Santos and not taken any damage? He had great footwork. Dude.

He fought very smart. How much of it? They avoided each other. He's not stupid. He baited him in. He baited him in. It was smart. And they started opening up in that second round.

People were booing, but you try fighting a knockout artist with the smallest margin of error. You dodge left instead of right, the night's over. So when I see that, I'm like, I get it. They're just trying to get a vibe here. And people are booing. I'm like, no, just fucking wait for it. Not only that, but Junior is taking his time, too.

And he's just balled up looking to uncork bombs. It's respect. Yeah, and when Junior's throwing, those punches are whizzing by. Oh, they're nightenders. They all have death on them. There's no feeling out with those two. So I respect that first round. And then the second round, I mean, that left hook was from fucking Mars.

He opened up with a bunch of shit in that second round. First of all, he started off orthodox. He started killing that front leg. He hit him with a bunch of shit in that second round. First of all, he started off orthodox, and he started killing that front leg. He hit him with some zippers. He's a free agent now. He's a free agent. Alistair is? Yes.

Ooh, that's big. And then that body shot. Oh, my God. He kept hitting him. He was switching stances real good, and he was constantly moving. And he said to me after the fight, first thing he said is that Wim Hof breathing stuff works. Goddamn. We were talking about it before I did the interview with him. And he said is that Wim Hof breathing stuff works. Goddamn. We were talking about it before I did the interview with him.

And he goes, that Wim Hof stuff works. That's dope. He wants to do the podcast. I've got to get him on the podcast. He'd be brilliant. Yeah, that'd be great. You want to talk about a guy who's been stopped a lot. A lot.

I mean, it's amazing. A lot. He's had a lot. As far as he's gotten, if you go back and watch kickboxing and then Strikeforce, or not Strikeforce. He didn't get stopped in Strikeforce. Pride. He got stopped in Pride. I mean, if you look at the stoppage losses that he got in K-1 and in Pride.

In Strikeforce, he was the champ. He never lost in Strikeforce, I believe. He beat Verdum in Strikeforce. He fucked up Brett Rogers. Fucked up. That was when he was the Uber Eater. Oh, my God. He was a totally different animal.

Fucking threw Brett Rogers to the ground. Oh, my God. He kicked Brett Rogers in the beginning of the first round with a right leg kick. When you see the look on Brett Rogers' face, he just realizes, oh, shit. It was just a completely different level of striker than he'd ever faced. Because he had beaten Or orlovsky but he caught our lovsky like nervous and tentative our loss you're standing in front of him and it was scared our lovsky yeah you know our lovsky had this period of time where he was in a rut before he

went with uh jackson knocked out yeah he's training with freddie roach he just was he was in a rut he was in chicago he wasn't training with uh jackson and winkle john down in albuquerque and then they took him on and he even had a big loss when they took him on. Karatanov. Sergey Karatanov. That's a tough fight, especially at the time when he fought him. Karatanov was on fire. He was on fire.

Knocked him out. What's the latest with him? He's killing it. He's fighting Stipe. He's killing it. No, no, no. Karatanov. Karatanov did some.

He did some. I'd like to point out that that was Brennan Chobbs' voice, not Eddie Bravo's. I'm not UFC employee, motherfucker. I don't know. I think he fought in Glory, right? Yeah, he fought in Glory. I don't know what he's doing these days. He did some kickboxing for a while.

I think he had a back injury, too, that set him back a bit. I don't know what he's doing these days. Tearing yellow book pages or some shit. He's just a man's man. How about Fedor's opponent just gets announced like a day ago? The worst market of all time. When did that get announced? He's irrelevant now.

I don't give a fuck who he fights. He's fighting that kickboxing, that Indian kickboxing guy? People thought it was a joke when they announced it. I know they did. Like, there's no way. Nah, man. Well, there's no one available. There's no one available.

It's silly. What if they made the Overeem versus Fedor fight? Sergey Karatanov, I'm currently negotiating with UFC, Bellator, and Glory. Posted today. Oh, today. Thicker than a Snickers on that picture. Yeah, it looks like you've been eating a lot of sausages. He looks scary as fuck right there.

Oh, he's dangerous. Come on, Karatanov. He's a motherfucker. Barnett fucked him up, though. Yeah, he did. Barnett fucked him up. Barnett got him down and fucked him up. But you know what I remember, man?

I remember him holding Semmy Schilt down and hammer fisting him in his eyeball. Remember that? Yeah. And Semmy Schilt is screaming as he's hammer fisting the same eyeball that he's fucking up. The Russian hammer. And he's like mounting him. He's like mounting him high on the chest. Because Semmy wasn't like the best grappler in the world.

He was just a nasty kickboxer. Great kickboxer. He had great wrist control. He would have dudes that would mount him and he would just hold their wrists. So big. He was so a nasty kickboxer. Great kickboxer. He had great wrist control. He would have dudes that would mount him, and he would just hold their wrists. He was so long, and he would punch back. He would strike off his back. Pete Williams had him, and the mount was,

he couldn't do shit to him, and he survived. The round ended. Next round, Sammy Schilt throws some front kicks. We never seen that before. Front kicks to the body. Right to the body, boom. And we thought, it's because he's seven foot tall. Nobody with normal legs can get away with shit like that.

Once they started learning it, it's crazy how that's taken off. The earliest ever kick that you learn in traditional martial arts is one of the most recent kicks that people are successful with. That's crazy. No one was throwing it. There was a video just a few years ago of you and I in my garage. You were asking me about front kicks. Will someone ever throw them? That was the question.

Will someone ever throw that Bruce Lee kick like that to the pool? My thought was like, man, you've got to time it perfect. To the jaw. And then Anderson Silva. Oh, my God. Everyone downloaded that data. That slow motion of Vitor's head snapping back from that front kick and his legs buckling and him going down and Anderson beating on him. It's a very popular fight now.

Oh, yeah. Who's Anderson? Because Vitor doesn't want to fight him. He's not going to fight him. Vitor won't fight him, and Rockhold's calling out Vitor, which is very fascinating. Because what do you do there? Here's a good question.

Do you have a rematch with Weidman, or do you have him fight Yoel before Yoel turns 50? Nope. Yoel is 63 years old. He's got to fight. He's got to fight for the title. He has to be like now, like tomorrow. No bullshit. He's 38.

Like, at what point in time? I mean, if he's clean. He didn't do enough for me to earn that title shot. Okay. I think Weidman-Rockhold 2 is the fight, 100%. That's the fucking fight. Because if Weidman didn't throw that terrible spinning heel kick, where the fuck that was,

he didn't throw that, we'd have a different fight on our hands. People give me a hard time about the difference between turning side kick and spinning back kick. You're totally right. I say spinning back kick because that's what everybody calls it, but the real spinning back kick is like a donkey kick it's like heel up i always call a turning side kick a spinning back kick or sometimes people throw it like a spinning side kick but the difference between people also give me a hard time about the wheel kick spinning hook kick like i had a conversation with this dude about it online but that's the same kick

the difference between a hook kick and a wheel kick is like the difference between a long left hook and a short left hook. It's the same kick. You're spinning, you're using the heel. But there's two different types of wheel kicks. There's a wheel kick that's like with the leg is bent, and then there's a stiff leg wheel kick, which is slower. Santos threw it and missed, right?

No, he landed it on Hunt, but he kind of caffed him. Well, no, he tried it against Overeem, if you remember, but he missed. You're right, he missed it on hunt but he kind of capped him well no he tried it against over him if you remember but he missed you're right he missed it yes yeah um but the stiff leg wheel kick is very rare you have to have a sucker like you have to have a guy who's like really standing in front of you but it's so powerful to uh like you've seen me throw a stiff leg one on the bag and they but they happen i mean when they happen they're stiff like one's rare bag. But they happen. Stiff leg ones are rare. Usually it's a bent one. Like the one with Terry Adam and... What is Edson Barbosa?

Edson Barbosa. That's what I said. He throws the wheel kick. It's a bent leg. That's a wheel kick. Here's what happens. It's bent up until the point of contact, and then it sort of snaps out. It whips.

The stiff leg one, like you've seen me throw it on a bag. Your leg becomes stiff way earlier. It's way earlier. Your leg one, like you see me throw it on a bag. Your leg becomes stiff way earlier. It's way earlier. Your leg gets stiff like halfway in. Again, this is like big time technicalities. They're basically the same kick. But the back kick and the turning side kick, they are different.

Chuck Liddell throws the back kick. He would throw it like he's throwing it on bags where he shows people holding the pad for it and he'll throw it. He throws it like he's throwing it on bags, where it shows people holding the pad for it, and he'll throw it. And so he throws it like donkey kick style. The heel is up, toes are down. The way Barboza throws it, he throws it spinning side kick or turning side kick, where the foot is flat, and the heel and the toes are parallel to the floor.

Nasty. It's nasty. To answer your question about Overeem, though, you can make a good argument that he deserves the title shot. He's won four of his last five. He's marketable as fuck. But Ben Rothwell knocked him out just a couple of fights ago, and he's unbeaten, too. But Ben Rothwell fights Barnett.

Yes, he fights Barnett, and maybe the winner of that fight. Then they decide. Because Barnett versus Ben Rothwell is in New Jersey in January, right? What about Stipe Orlovsky? That's a very good point. What do you do with Orlovsky if he wins that fight? Well, Stipe went to war with Junior, right? Fought five hard rounds, went to war, lost a real close fight, but got dropped and legitimately

lost. He's ranked ahead of Junior now, by the way. Oh, I don't know about that. That doesn't make any sense. Orlovsky, so it goes Kane won, right? Verdum's champ. He's ranked ahead of Junior now, by the way. I don't know about that. That doesn't make any sense. Orlowski's. So it goes Kane one, right? Verdum's champ. Kane's one.

Orlowski's two. Stipe's three. I forget who four is. That doesn't make any sense to me. I think if Junior beat him, Junior should be ahead of him. Even if Junior just got knocked out by Alistair. Alistair's ranked behind Junior now. Okay.

That's insane. that's insane. That's insane. Those ratings are fucking bananas. Isn't it funny? No, here's even worse than this. When Conor McGregor knocked out Aldo, there's a Brazilian judge or writer or whatever the fuck journalist, whoever gets to vote on these things, that voted Conor down four spaces on the pound for pound. That's why these things are a joke.

But that makes that guy, he is no longer credible. You cannot have that guy vote anymore. That's a disgrace. It's got to be old because if you go back, it has Overeem under Dos Santos. No, it's current. This is current. Even though he just knocked out Dos Santos, he's still ranked below him. Holly Holm is ranked below Ronda.

Yeah. She knocked Ronda. Yeah. She knocked Ronda to the top. That's automatic. That's automatic. This is old. How the fuck does that make sense? No, this isn't old, brother. No, Eddie, that's not automatic.

This is updated, man. Do you understand? They have some goofy system of how they do this thing. And there's a bunch of dummies out there that somehow or another think Ronda should be ranked above Holly after Holly knocked her out because Ronda's beaten so many people. That's insanity. These same silly hoes wait for us to do these podcasts so they can talk shit about us.

Yeah. Well, this is clearly the most nutty thing ever. If you look at the heavyweight division, Jamie, scroll down for the heavyweight division, please. Who do you got on the rematch? Hold on a second. Let's go over this real quick. Look at this.

Cain Velasquez makes sense, of course. He was the champion. He lost to Fabrizio. He's beaten everybody else, right? That makes sense. He's the champ. Arlovsky, he's done really well. But number two, boy, that's a tough sell.

That's a tough sell when you look at the difference between the guys he's beaten and then you look at the guys that Alistair's beaten. If you look at Alistair just beating Junior, I think you've got to put him right up there with Arlovsky. Alistair lost to Travis Brown. Arlovsky beat Travis Brown. That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point.

Junior beat Stipe. It's fucking weird. It's tough because Junior and Arlovsky never fought. That's a great fight. That would be a great fight. That's the fight that's going to happen if Andre loses. If Andre loses. 100%. Boy, who knows that's going to happen if Andre loses. If Andre loses. 100%.

Boy, who knows what's going to happen with Junior now, though. When Junior gets KO'd like that, you've got to take some time off, right? He's never been the same. To me, after the Kane fights, it took too much on him. See, I look at the fight with Orlovsky and you. That's a super close fight. That was so close. That was anybody's fight.

Anybody could have won that fight. Most people say Shab won. When I mean most people, I mean everyone. And then Arlovsky's last fight against Frank Mir. That was another. He knocked out. Remember, after me, he knocked out Bigfoot. Travis Brown.

He knocked out Bigfoot. Which was beautiful. Frank Mir, Travis Brown. Nice fight in Stipe. We didn't knock out Frank Mir. Him and Frank Mir had that. Oh, that's right. That boring dance. Really boring fight. And they're like, let's do it air. We didn't knock out Frank Mir. Him and Frank Mir had that really boring fight. They're like, let's do it again.

Absolutely not, sir. So that's two fights that he had that were really slow to pull the trigger. Not much happens. Travis just went after him, and he went after Travis. And I think a lot of that might have been familiarity because both those guys knew each other really well from the gym, from training together. And the word was that Arlovsky would get the better of Travis in sparring.

When there's nothing on the line, it's all just skills, right? When you're just in the cage, you're training together, there's no pressure, there's no media, there's no nothing. Then you just see skills. Arlovsky has some vicious fucking striking skills. If you go back to just skills, you go back to his early fights And you watch his knockouts when he was the UFC heavyweight champion Fun on dude, but dude his right hand was a piston well. There was no fat to it He would just uncork that motherfucker on dudes and just sleep well I think the reason a why my fight in our lofts keys was so boring is we trained a lot together, too

And they were I mean you it was a if judges are scoring, it was the same fight. It was very, like, super close. So we knew each other. So we were both so nervous when we fought because when you're going in, you're like, fuck, man. Anything can happen. Fuck, this fight's going to be tough. Yeah. Yeah, and Orlovsky, knowing that he had that advantage over Travis Brown from his training,

looked real confident in that fight, too. He looked real relaxed in that fight. What. He looked real relaxed in that fight. What a fucking crazy slugfest that was. The Travis Brown-Orlovsky fight might have been one of the greatest first rounds or one-rounders ever in the history of the heavyweight division. I agree, especially where they're ranked. And now you got Brown versus Mitrione. That's a motherfucker for a fight.

Travis Brown's fighting Mitrione? In Boston, son, on TJ and your boy Cruz's card. Whoa, that's right. Brace yourself. That's a a fight. Travis Brown's fighting Mitrione. In Boston, son. On TJ and your boy Cruz's card. Whoa, that's right. Brace yourself. That's a good fight. A lot of people are overlooking that.

It's a great fight. Why did I feel like Mitrione was fighting somebody else? That's a great fight. That's a stand-up war. You know what else is a great fight

that's happening in New Jersey? Roy Nelson. No, I'm sorry. Josh Barnett and Big Ben Rothwell. That's a great fight. That's a great fight. Of veterans.

Ooh, especially after Josh Barnett looked so good against Roy. He looked fantastic against Roy. He looked amazing. Five hard rounds. Although he got taken down a bunch. So what? Nothing happened. You know, you got Roy versus Jared Roshalt.

Yeah, that's a good fight, too. It's not really a blockbuster. I'm just saying you got it, though. Well, Roshalt's got to, you know, he's got to minus P's and Q's against Roy. Yeah, he's going to knock the fuck out. He's going to be in front of Roy. He's been knocked out before.

Yeah, and he's going to be in front of Roy. You know, he's not going to be Alistair Overeeming it. The way Overeem fought Roy, he got knocked down, too. Remember that? He's a very good wrestler, and he could put, we might see Roy Nelson on his back a lot. You're right. You're right.

We might. That's his game plan, 100%. Yeah. It's a really good point, man. It's high-level wrestling right there. Yeah, that fight's not going to break any records for our style points. I can promise you that. Unless Roy just knocks him the fuck in next week.

Did you see that fucking new dude, Nganou, the French guy? Yes. Bodied up. Good Lord. Was that DJ from Street Fighter? guy yes bodied up lord was that dj from street fighter he looked he was bodied up son dude that guy is fucking big he got on the scale and for all i could look at is the size of his feet i was like this guy's got canoes he's got canoes under his ankles he's a fucking he hits hard too but he got taken down Off of a kick But the dude

Who took him down Couldn't do anything with him And then he got back up And just boxed him up man Nasty power Him and that DJ Is it DJ Lewis The Beast

Him and DJ Need to fight Some black on black crime The boxer No no The Beast You know the The Lewis who knocked out

Oh I know who you're talking about He was like beating his chest And then called out Mitch Rihanna And Mitch Rihanna was beating his chest and then called out Mitrione, and Mitrione was like, huh? And knocked him out in 30 seconds. Derek Lewis, right? Yes!

Derek Lewis. Oh, my God. A little black-on-black crime. Yeah, but this dude, Engano, is a nasty striker, man. That boy is bodied up. He's also really good, man. His striking is fucking strong. I really enjoyed watching his striking.

I was like, ooh, this guy with a few fights under his belt. How was his ground game? Well, he had good defense. Being French. He got taken down. You're right. He got taken down, and he got control on the ground, but not much happened to him there. And once he got up, good Lord.

He hit that dude with a left uppercut that just shut the lights out. Night-night. It came right through the arms, too. Right through the guard. Like, right up the middle. There's a better uppercut over the weekend, not to change subjects, but did you see Ortiz versus Jennings in the heavyweight bout? Yes, I did.

Jennings has never been knocked down. Ortiz's uppercut was fucking filthy. Yeah, he's nasty, man. He's a 36-year-old Cuban. No one wants to fight. Southpaw. Everyone's like, what the fuck? And they couldn't believe Jennings took the fight because he has over 350 amateur fights.

Well, Jennings, he fought Klitschko. To a decision. Yeah, and had a real good fight with him. And, you know, he's got to take that fight because this is a fight that if he beats this dude, it sets him right back up. The only thing is they're saying with Ortiz, like, no one really knows him. He's super dangerous. Southpaw, 350 amateur fights, just this monster in Cuba. The technique.

So clean. He is fucking nasty, man. So good. He's older, so it's time to get going. Yeah, well, that's what I feel about Yoel Romero.

But Yoel Romero, is there a guy alive built better than that man? I mean, if Mr. Universe was real, I agree. Like, if it wasn't some freak

who just shoots D-ball into his dick hole until his fucking neck explodes, if it was actually, like, what's, like, the best looking body for an athlete? It's Yoel Romero. Or Woodley.

Woodley's right up there. He's right there. He's right there. Yoel Romero's weirder though. He's weirder. Because Woodley, it almost makes sense. It's all like, it seems like he's- Proportionate.

Yeah, he's like really well built, but it all makes sense. Romero looks like a super, like an action hero. It doesn't look real. No. First of all, he's got all this extra neck and shoulder muscle. He looks like a ninja turtle. It's all like built up like a shell. Yeah, like turtle in his waist is like that small and his abs are just Retarded they don't even make sense and ask

Yeah, it's like if you saw him in a comic book you'd be like why don't they make more realistic representations of men You're fucking with our body images you're ruining so racist unrealistic images you're with our body images you're ruining you guys are so racist how's that racist he looks like those action figures he looks just like a country how's that racist i don't think he gets the title shot though the fight was too boring they should make them fight he fought sick apparently he had the flu that's what they were saying they were saying he was sick well right up until rock cold's foot was about to fall off, and he still did work. He had staff. Yes. Horrible staff. And he won by stoppage.

Yes. So the rematch, if you are Joe Sova... Well, you're either one. Okay. Whoever makes the calls. I gotta be Scrooge to make the calls. Okay, if you're Scrooge, what do you think? Weidman, Rockhold, two. I could see that.

Easy. That's easy. Everything else doesn't make sense and is in a big fight. The only thing I would like to see Yoel Romero fight for the title because of his age. I feel like he's so good. He's so good and he doesn't have much time left at that level. When you're that level and also he relies on speed and athleticism. You're not talking about a Bernard Hopkins that's like this super crafty technician. Because once that goes. Yeah.

Bernard, like the perfect example of the difference between Bernard and like say Roy Jones Jr. Like Roy Jones Jr. was athleticism and speed and all this crazy power and technique. But he wasn't like the classically trained boxer like Bernard was. So he beat Bernard early in his career. But then when they fought late in the career,

Bernard was older than him by several years. Yeah, man. And Bernard beat him. Bernard just outboxed him, just fought with better technique. When Roy's speed and power was all gone and his chin wasn't the same, did you see him just get knocked out last week? In the fourth round. He fought again?

Dude, he got knocked out dead. How? He got knocked dead in Russia. Fourth round. Do we have a video of that? There's like 18 people in the crowd. Oh, man. No, no.

Seriously? He's popular in Russia, man. Wait a minute. How old is he? He fought a cruiserweight contender. That's the problem. How old is he? 195.

Fought a 195. He was the champion. He's a champion at 175. And then, of course, he went up to heavyweight. He fought John Ruiz. won the heavyweight title. But see. Wasn't that 20 years ago? A long time ago.

He's 46, I think. That's not that old. No. That is old. Oh, it's old. He's still fighting, son. 46-year-old Roy Jones Jr. knocked out in first bout as a Russian citizen. That's so rough.

They had to throw a Russian citizen there. Note the red, white, and blue theme of bloodyelbow.com. What if they paid him? Give me these red, white, and blue. It's like they're like fucking, it's like that statement along with their color layout. It's just coincidental, but it's almost like, fuck you, you fucking traitor. Yeah. It's just weird.

It's a bummer to see him get knocked out. What if they paid him to get knocked down? No, no, no. They definitely didn't. You don't think they're not a legend like that? They would never do that. He doesn't need money. Well, no, it was a good fight up until he got tagged, dude.

I mean, it's real. You want to see it? I would love to see it. Find the video. It's behind the air that fucks him. Well, he first got dropped with an uppercut. Less than a round? He fought a real good guy.

He fought a legit contender in the cruiserweight division. And fighting a cruiserweight is like, you know, here it is. The dude he fought is fucking good, and the guy's long. And it was a good fight for a while, but look at Roy's body. What happened? He's 46. Fucking time happened. I know, but look, Bernard Hopkins is 49, and he doesn't have as wide a waist as Roy does.

That doesn't look like a man who's in shape. Wow. He just doesn't look in good shape. He looks like an HBO commentator trying to fight a fucking monster. I mean, he's still very smart, but this does not look good to me. Like, it doesn't look like he's in the best shape. Like, being 49 doesn't keep him from losing body fat, or 46. It doesn't help.

It doesn't help. It doesn't help, but how come Bernard looks so much good? Bernard's a freak. Did I just say gooder? You did. I'll take it, though. I meant better, but I was in the wrong syllables. Well, Bernard genetically is a freak. Look at that nasty left hook to the body that dude just threw.

Meanwhile, I don't even know the dude's name. It's like Kevin McBride. He gets knocked down. He looks at the crowd like, nah, I'm good, man. And the homeboy's like, nah. Who remembers Kevin McBride? Do you remember Kevin McBride? I don't. He's the guy who retired Mike Tyson the crowd like, nah, I'm good, man. And the homeboy's like, nah. Who remembers Kevin McBride? Do you remember Kevin McBride? I don't.

He's the guy who retired Mike Tyson. Nobody remembers him. Oh, shit. God dang. Yeah. We don't want to remember him. Well, it's rough. I mean, Tyson quit on his stool against this guy.

So Roy's still trying his same old tricks, like with that leaping left hook. But he's just unhappy. Well, here it comes. Here comes the uppercut. Dude gets him in the corner here. What'd you do? How dare you? Oh, there it is.

Boom. See, now watch when he gets the crowd. He still has the ego. You got to love it. Look at him. He's like, this dude, it's all good. I don't think he's looking at the crowd. I think he's like seeing 30 fucking light bulbs.

He stuck his tongue out. Like, it's all good, baby. He did? Yeah, he stuck his tongue out to the crowd. Did he stick his tongue out or was he trying to put his mouthpiece back in? No. Let's see. Watch.

He's smiling. Like, he's smiling. Oh, yeah. You're right. He stuck his tongue out. Yeah. But he might have been, like, moving his jaw, too. He might have been like this, like.

He stuck in the ref. He said, I'm fine. He was licking butterflies. But look at this. Yeah, this dude says, you ain't fine. It's behind the ear. That fucks him up. Bing, bing, bing.

Look how he mixes his combinations, too. Uppercut, and here's the right hand on the top. Boom, behind the ear. Ding. It's so hard to watch, man. It's a bummer, man. It's hard to watch him get felled like that. It's like watching a kid get beat up.

And then the guy does the cross thing to make sure he doesn't die. And he's like groaning and moving around while he's on his back. Super fucked up. I don't like looking at his legs. Like, look at his legs. Those are like soft, mushy legs. You know what I'm saying?

Like, when I think of a guy like Roy Jones Jr., I think of like sinewy, fast twitch muscle fiber. I think of a guy in shape. I'm looking at his legs and I'm like, that's a guy who's not in shape. That's one of the best boxers of all time. Look at the definition. Like, it's all missing.

Like, look at his body. But a lot of boxers, like George Foreman. George Foreman, when he fought Muhammad Ali, was fucking jacked. Right. And then he got super fat. The difference is, George Foreman was a heavyweight. And a heavyweight who gets fat is not giving up any weight. You know?

I mean George still 300 pounds. Yeah, but he was enormous even when he was fat big enormous muscles big boy What I'm looking at here is like a guy who looks like he's out of shape He just doesn't look at all like he's in shape. He looks like he's an analyst for HBO that jumped in there with a killer It's just exactly what's going on. You know what? Look at this fucking uppercut Look at this the look in this guy's face's exactly what's going on. Look at this fucking uppercut. Look at the look on this guy's face, too. He's looking to murder. Look at this.

Oh! Oh, my God. That right hand that put him away is terrifying. Show that one more time. God damn. The way that looks in slow motion. Look at this. Look at him, just a killer.

Look at his eyes, and he just uncorks the perfect right hand to the side of Roy's head and watches him drop. It's the same story that plays itself out time and time and time again. That's fighters, though, right? They go out on their shield, man. Most guys, I mean, they don't become fighters because they don't enjoy this, you know? But it's just so weird to watch. It's so weird to watch it happen to Roy. you know but it's just so weird to watch it's so weird to watch it happen to roy for whatever reason like here do me a favor and put on roy jones jr versus virgil hill let's go back to the

prime go back to when he was the light heavyweight champion and he iced virgil hill with his right hand his highlight reel yeah go to the highlight highlight yeah go to roy jones highlight reel that's even better when they have his song dude I mean, who the fuck was like this guy? He's the best of all time to me. I love him. He's my favorite. My favorite to watch, for sure. Right up there.

You know the only other guy that was one of my favorites to watch, but for a different reason? Well, Roberto Duran, for sure. But also, look at his speed. Look at his body, son. Look at him dancing. Robot. He was amazing. Pop, drop, and lock it.

But he also had a weird body. He had giant bicep muscles. His biceps were giant. Jesus Christ. Look at that left hook. He was just so fast, but he relied on this. Look at that. Come on, son.

Fast and powerful. But once that goes away, it's not a fun game. But look at his body. Look at his body here and compare it to the body of the dude that we just watched get knocked out. I mean, this is a fucking... Damn, look at his body there. He was 46, bro.

I know. I understand. No, I mean, I'm not saying that he has some sort of work ethic problem. I'm not saying he has a work ethic problem or anything like that. I'm not saying that he has some sort of work ethic problem. I'm not saying he has a work ethic problem or anything like that. I'm just saying it's just so fucked up to see. There's no way he could train the same at 46. The fight against Vinny Pazienza, they had a round where Vinny didn't land not one punch.

It was the only time ever in CompuBox history that the opponent didn't land a punch at all. Dude, he was insane. He would punch you and just be nowhere near you when you wanted to punch him back. It was just on another level, speed and, like, reflex-wise. Completely different level than anybody ever. What is that white boy doing? It's just so sad to see this guy become the guy that we just watched. Because, I mean, he was a virtual muso.

That's what happens, though, right, Joe right Joe if you keep fighting this happens to everyone yes man I just who doesn't it happen to I don't understand why especially when you're famous it's him you can fight whenever you want this is like when nobody knew who he was dude he was insane he was so I was there for that fight I was there live for this really yeah I forget to do his name he's like this light-skinned black dude. I saw that dude fight somewhere else, too. I saw that guy fight live in Mount Vernon, New York.

Or Mount Vernon or White Hill. White Plains, rather. One of these local boxing events. I saw him fight, and I was like, wow, this guy's good. And then I remember years later, he was fighting. You remember Juan Roldan? Oh, yeah, man. He fought him.

He fought Juan Roldan? Wow, I can't. He fought him. He fought Juan Roldan? Wow, I can't remember that. I thought, no, didn't Hagler fight him? God, Juan Roldan. He's one of those names like Mustafa Hamshel. You got to go, oh, yeah. Oh, you know what? Maybe it was, who did you say, Marvin Hagler? Yeah.

I might be remembering wrong. I think it was. I think it was, but I don't remember either. I feel like Juan Roldan was from a different era. See if Juan Roldan fought Marvin Hagler. Look at Marvin Hagler's record. Such a monster, man. One of my favorite football fans.

I thought he fought Roy Jones, but I could be wrong. You might be right, though. I think early in Roy Jones' career, Juan Roldan was on his way out. Oh, it's Marvin Hagler. Marvin Hagler, yeah. I think that was quite a few years earlier. Yeah, I think so, man. Now check Roy Jones Jr.

Yeah. Juan Roldan. No, it just keeps showing. Juan Roldan versus Hagler and Hearns. Different fights. He fought Hearns too, huh? Thomas Hearns versus Juan Roldan. Juan Roldan was a tough motherfucker.

So was Mustafa Hamsho. There was a lot of tough guys. Boxing's good right now, man. It's great right now. Boxing's phenomenal right now. I saw this, what was his name, Walters versus Sosa? Bullshit decision, though, man. Oh, yeah.

That was before Ortiz, Jennings. Oh, my God, yeah. Boxing's tough, man. That was a bad decision. It was really bad. It's terrible. I was watching. I was like, this doesn't even make sense.

How the fuck did that happen? Even Max Kellerman was like, what the fuck are we doing? Where do you fit watching MMA in your schedule? How do you guys retain all this? You must be watching these fights at least twice, right? Depends on

what the fights. Obviously, I do it for a living. So the UFC, I'm watching. I watched the cowboy Dos Angeles fight three times. I just wanted to watch it again because I was just so impressed. He's just such a destroyer.

The combination that he threw when he had cowboy hurt up against the cage, nasty and tight. No wild, stupid shit. It was just controlled aggression, just super aggression just super so super aggressive super fast most guys you see get all wild because you're trying to finish it he stayed composed beat the fuck up top of boxing too well i watched this last night i came home last night

and i watched this a fight man yeah i recorded everything i watched a lot of fights yeah kick boxing i'm deep in that's my favorite my favorite is. That's my favorite shit. My favorite shit is Glory. That's my favorite shit to watch right now. See, boxing's my favorite right now. Really? Mm-hmm. More than MMA? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.

Come on. No, no, no, no. No, UFC's number one. You're scaring me. What the fuck are you guys talking about? No, MMA is 100% number one. Okay. What's number two?

Of other shit, I should have clarified that. Yes. Of other shit, Glory is my favorite to watch. And boxing. Okay. Rico Verhoeven, did you see his last fight? Yes. Good lord. Dude, he's a motherfucker. He likes boxing. Okay. Rico Verhoeven, did you see his last fight? Yes. He's a monster.

Good lord. Dude, he's a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker, dude. And for guys who like stand-up, only watching, get mad when UFC fights go to the ground, watch Glory. But watch that, man. Those fucking fights are barn burners. They are good.

To me, there's just so many matches to make in boxing. There's just so much good shit. Yeah. How about Terrence Crawford? Watch that dude. Yeah, man. Good lord, he's good. God damn, that dude's good.

Woo! Really good. He's such a good adjuster, too. He adjusts in fights and switches stances really well from orthodox to southpaw. You see his last fight? Yeah. As soon as he realized he switched southpaw and caught that dude with a right hook, he's like, oh, we're going to be fighting like this from now on, sir.

Yeah, man. And just beat the fuck out of the dude. In Nebraska. Yeah. Close fight in the beginning of the first round until he found the rhythm and then figured it out. And he's like, oh, I'll just switch stances up on this motherfucker. They thought he was going to get a mega fight next against Floyd or something.

They're all scared. It didn't happen. Nobody wants that. No one wants to fight him. Fuck that. Nobody knows who he is outside of Nebraska. Everybody in Nebraska knows who he is. A lot of hardcore boxing fans know who he is. Yes. But like the

average Joe on the street. The average person. They know who Floyd Mayweather is. They know who Pacquiao is. That's the next fight. Again? I guarantee you. I'm gonna make a prediction. This is my prediction. In April, they're gonna fight again. I saw pictures of Manny Pacquiao. He's back to training

again. Manny Pacquiao on his Instagram page today is hitting pads. So he had a shoulder surgery. They're going to fight again. I saw pictures of Manny Pacquiao. He's back to training again. Manny Pacquiao on his Instagram page today is hitting pads. So he had a shoulder surgery. They probably shot him up with the same shit they shot me up with. He probably healed 50% quicker. They fucking stem celled. I know a lot of dudes are doing that now. Ever since I got my stem cell shots and I started talking about it. You swear by it, huh?

A bunch of other people started talking about stem cells, too Yeah, look at Manny Pacquiao shoulder surgery a few months ago. He's full blast pads Full blast power punching on pads now man come on. That's you're supposed to wait like a year Probably juiced fake photo. They probably whacked them with the secret sauce. The secret sauce, son. We need to fix you up right quick. We're talking about a big man.

Listen, this ain't the UFC, bitch. There ain't no drug testing. There's no testing, son. Not in between. That's one of the beautiful things about these guys, too. In between camp, if they get injured, that's what steroids are for. Boom. That's what they're for.

They're supposed to get you back out there quicker. For a football player or any sort of an athlete in another sport that doesn't get tested outside of seasons, you're supposed to do steroids. Look at it. He's back. He's got a little tiny baby scar, too. They think of you little baby scars. That's a painting.

That's not a picture. That's a lot of filters. That's Photoshop, bro. That's Photoshop, bro. That's Photoshop, bro. I can put my head on that. They're going to put Eddie Bravo's head on that tonight. Guaranteed. Especially when you have that goatee.

Good luck honeydicking the fans and Floyd Manning, too. Dude, it's going to happen. There's my prediction. I may be wrong. I'm wrong about a lot of shit. But here's my prediction. They're going to open up that new arena in April. The new arena in Vegasil the new arena in

vegas the big one yeah and in april they're gonna they're gonna have floyd mayweather manny pacquiao dos i like shit i like it i think i'll buy the fuck out of it i think floyd mayweather starts talking it's right now it's december i think he starts talking somewhere around january the end of january i like where your head's at. Starts saying, you know what, I'm thinking about coming back. And then he honey dicks Terrence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez and everybody else. Honey dicks all because Canelo Alvarez looked good. He looked good against Miguel Cotto.

He looked good. He looked good. I thought he looked real good. Cotto's a motherfucker, dude. He's a crafty dude. He's older, but he's still very good. Yeah. a motherfucker, dude. He's a crafty dude. He's older, but he's still very good. I think Manny Pacquiao, they start going over the fact that he got

the shoulder surgery, and they show him hitting the pads. They get everybody to believe again. He starts talking about Jesus. He has balls deep in Jesus. He starts doing the cross thing, and everybody's like, we're back in! We're back in! He didn't have a chance the first time. The problem is, the first time injured i'm that guy yeah i'm that guy they can get me i watch one

countdown show i am in take my hundred dollars you know what i like i like the ones with max kellerman when they sit him across the table and they make them talk to each other face offs those are my favorite and max kellerman says like he said that you are this like you he said you have no chin how do you respond to that? Yeah, it's great. And then it's usually some dude who's speaking Spanish. And they're like, this motherfucker. You know how they say it in Spanish? And they're both sitting like AC Slater with a chair backwards staring at each other.

It's sick. Those are great. I love those. Those are fun, man. The UFC needs to do something like that. Oof. Well, that's the thing we were talking about, like Nate Diaz and Conor. I think Eddie's got the best idea.

No, it's a two. You can't market that. Prison glass. No with a phone. Eddie Bravo's got it right! No! Prison glass with a phone or through a cage. Ladies and gentlemen, Joey Hostin. No, you got three giant dudes in between them. It's not good enough. It looks bad.

Nate Diaz might still sucker punch him. That's gonna hype the fight up even more. Look at DC Jon Jones. Why are you against this, Brendan? Why are you against this? What about a cage? How about just a cage? What do you like better? It's two animals. I kind of like your prison glass even better than the cage.

They'd be breaking the fucking phone and shit. They'd have to have a bunch of them. Maybe a bunch of booze. Yeah. Yeah. Or the cage. Just put a fence up. Let me ask you.

Let me put them in straight jackets. Do you really believe that Joe Silva told Nate Diaz that Conor McGregor Is next or do you think that Nate Diaz Is being real smart and talking some shit And getting people all excited about it Joe Silva's a smart guy, he knows damn well he doesn't have the power To make that fight You know damn well

Motherfucker please, Dana goes huh That's not the fight Dana probably texts him. Did you tell him that? Joe goes, no, I didn't, sir. What? Ninja versus ninja. DS says UFC match. Yeah, that's what we just said. Yeah, I just don't... I don't see him doing that.

I think Nate's being smart. I think he's talking shit. I think it's great. I think he's talking shit. You know who's not talking shit that should? Who? Frankie Edgar. He should be. Oh, no, he did. He said if you're scared, get a dog.

Yeah, I saw that. You got to be relentless, though. You know what I'm saying? I know, I guess. But it's not his style. It's not his style. His fighting should speak for itself, but that's not the game plan now. I feel like there's only one fight to make it featherweight.

There's only one fight. It's 100% Frankie Edgar. 100%. I couldn't be more emphatic about that. There's only one fight. It's 100% Frankie Edgar. 100%. I couldn't be more emphatic about that. But fucking as a fan... That's what I'm saying. As a fan, I don't mind this fucking Nate Diaz fight.

I know. And I love Frankie. I want Frankie to get the shot. I do too. I do too. I love Frankie. If you're the king, what do you do? If I'm Scrooge McDuck, you can make all the fucking calls. No, I'm Dana. I'm not Brendan. No, I mean, I don't even mean you're not even Dana. Because Dana has to talk to Lorenzo.

Okay? What if you're just the king? You're the king. What's the call? Oh, man. I'm going to get in trouble here. But if I'm trying to sell the fight, I want as much money possible, it's Diaz-Connor on a world tour. If I'm a good man and I have morals, I make Frankie Edgar

Conor and then the winner of that fights Jose when Jose gets healthy. Here's the question though. Can they tell Conor who to fight now? Or is Conor so meteoric? Is he so out of control? Is he so off the charts? What if Conor says, I want to be

a promoter? What if Conor says he wants to go money team? He wants to co-promote and do like Croke Park. He has the power. He almost does. He does. Does he? 80,000 Dublin? What?

Oh, he can sell that out in about a minute. Literally a minute. A minute. Yeah. I know it sounds like Ron is nuts, but he's the first guy to do this. Everybody's going to fill in their credit card information, and then at the stroke of midnight, 1159, they're all going to press enter at the same time.

Bro, I'm terrified. And the computer's going to overload. All the servers are going to crash. For reals, I'm terrified to fly because of ISIS. I'm fucking, I'm there buying it. Front row. Fucking what? Oh, dude, you'd be my guest.

You'd have to come. It'd be amazing. It'd be amazing. Connor has the power to, if they go, we want to fight Dos Santos, he goes, nah, I'm good. Notorious promotions. I wonder. He's going to have his own fight. Notorious. Notorious. Look, man, I don't know.

It's good for the sport. Here's what's crazy. It's almost like he can't get any bigger. So what happens now? Does he just go parallel? Does he just keep staying this big for a long period of time? Vin Diesel is fucking Satan of Hollywood going, come here. I want to do final fucking Furious Fast 9. Come here.

Let's fuck your career. And he's going to ruin it. We're going to put you in fucking Transformer 13. Next thing you know, he's dating black chicks with big juicy asses and a lot of jewelry. Do-do-do-do. That sounds awesome. That sounds awesome. That sounds ideal. And he's driving a Mustang off the top of a building.

It's a fucking crazy movie. Hopefully someone is in his air tone. It's fun. It's a fun time. It's a fun time to be an MMA fan. That's for sure. Especially for Conor McGregor. If I'm Scrooge McDuck, I'm the king of the world, I make the Frank Edgar fight.

Or at least I make an attempt to. I don't know how much influence they have over him. But what I would say is, I would say, honestly, your future probably is at 155 pounds. You struggle to make 145. But your legacy will be complete if you beat Frank Edgar. Okay. What if Conor goes, 145 is too tough for me. I have to fight at 55.

Abandon the 145-pound title and move up. And fight who? Jose Aldo meets Frank Edgar in a rematch for the me. I have to fight at 55. Abandon the 145-pound title and move up. And fight who? Jose Aldo meets Frankie Edgar in a rematch for the title. I like that. And then Nate Diaz. Then you have Nate Diaz versus Conor, his first fight at 55. If he gets past Nate Diaz, you 100% have him fight Dos Anjos. Correct.

Dos Anjos fights Habib Nurmagomedov in the meantime. No! Why not? He hasn't fought in forever. He's been injured. That's true. That's true. If anything, Tony Ferguson is the argument.

Don't forget about Tony. Tony Ferguson, Dos Anjos, that's a motherfucker. That's true. Yeah, that could easily happen. It can get the title shot. Right. Especially after the Barbosa fight. Fuck yeah.

That's true. That's true. What about Tony Ferguson versus Cowboy? It's already, they already made it. Look at that. Damn, they are. Totally. Fuck yeah, that's true. That's true It's already there he made it look at that Photoshop dudes don't fuck around Give the guy credit Oh snap listen, they say just casual just casual See if I can find who the guy was. Oh, snap. With some big ass titties. What's his name? Just Casual? Just Casual. That says your mom.

You can't have the titties on TV, though. That says your mom. Don't let the titties get on TV. Yeah, that's my message board. This guy's awesome. My message board's filled with barbarians. Really? They're animals.

Barbarians. But in a good way. Yeah. What was I going to say? Okay, so Tony Ferguson, you have fight Dos Anjos next. Totally agree with that. Yeah. Great fight.

Great matchup. But for the money, though, the real big money fight, So Tony Ferguson you have fight dos Anjos next totally agree with that. Yeah great fight great man But like for the money though the real big money fight For dos Anjos is obviously Connor, but outside of Connor who's a big money fight? Habib we don't even know when Habib is gonna be back right can't say do you have to give you have to give Habib a Fight against a top guy before he gets a title shot Do you have to give Habib a fight against a top guy before he gets a title shot? 100% he has to fight again. Okay.

So if so, who do you give him? God, Tony Ferguson, because they're supposed to fight, right? Who's Pettis fighting again? Pettis is fighting someone really good. Eddie Alvarez. Yes. That's on the Fox card. Yes.

No, the FS1 in Boston. Correct. Wow. Ben Saunders, Patrick Cote. That's right. I'll be there. Oh, he's going to be in Boston? Fuck yeah. Powerful Boston.

I get there on Sunday. Dude, that's a motherfucker. That's a weird weekend for me. I'm not there for the weigh-ins. I've got Atlanta, a theater in Atlanta, and then a theater in Tampa, and then I fly into Boston. You know another fight that could sell like hotcakes at 55? Conor and Pettis. If Pettis gets by Alvarez. Boy, that's a... That's another blockbuster. There's so many blockbuster fights hotcakes at 55 connor and pettis pettis gets by alvarez boy that's uh

that's another blockbuster there's so many blockbuster fights that's a good fight that's a good fight for um pettis versus uh connor is a good fight as far as like styles and on paper and stuff i think that's a really good fight but, it's a tough sell after Norma Gamedov, or after Dos Anjos, rather, beat up Pettis. Like, Pettis has got to get a victory under his belt in order to fire him up. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying if Pettis beats Alvarez, let's say he gets a head kick KO, then it's like, oh, shit.

Yeah, if he beats him like he beat Lozon or something like that. Or Cowboy in Japan. Yeah, I mean, look, Pettis, when he loses, usually comes back a way better fighter. That's what happened when he fought Clay Guida. Clay Guida stuffed him, shut him down. He came back a way better fighter. Pettis is one of my favorite fighters to watch ever.

He's spectacular. He's fucking ridiculous. Why do they separate the prelims and the main card if it's on the same channel? Just so that people can time it so that it's like there's two different blocks of shows. So instead of having a six-hour block of fights, they have two three-hour blocks. In this case, it seems like less than that.

It seems like two hours, because it's only four fights and four fights. First of all, you have Felder versus Cruikshaw. Crankshaw. Crankshaw. What is it? Cruikshaw? Cruikshank. Cruikshank.

The Detroit superstar? That's a motherfucking fight, son. That's your fight of the night on that card. Well, you know another candidate? Ross Pearson versus Francisco Trinaldo. Yeah, I'm not mad at that fight at all. That's a good fucking fight right there. Kote Sanders.

This card's stacked. Saunders. Ben Saunders. Eddie Bravo's student. How dare you. You know who's a bad motherfucker, too? Tyson Moff. That dude's a bad motherfucker.

Is that Nick, dude? Who's he fighting? Yeah. Yeah, he's nasty man dude Rosa verse our back Tyson off you seen that guy fight he's um he trains out of a Phuket he's one of those one of them Russian yeah Tiger Muay Thai he's a Tiger Muay Thai guy but a lot of Russians right dude so many takeover has begun to emotions I think we're out of time we have time to that cards a motherfucker it's a motherfucker so is right? Dude, so many. The takeover has begun for the Russians. I think we're out of time. Are we out of time? Dude, that card's a motherfucker.

It's a motherfucker. So is time. That was three hours. We talked about fights for 20 minutes. We talked about sharks for an hour. We talked about

Kurt Cobain for two hours. And then fights for 30 seconds. We did. We talked about the CIA killing John Lennon. And we made a few steroid allegations.

We cleared it up. We want to get the MMA media and give them some fruit. There's your headlines, little hoes. Good night. Good night, everybody. We love you. See ya. That was so fun, man.