The Joe Rogan Experience - UFC Recap w/ Brendan Schaub
Episode Date: November 6, 2017Joe sits down with Brendan Schaub to discuss recent fights in on November 4, 2017. ...
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Dude, what a fucking crazy weekend, huh?
What the hell?
Watch those three title fights.
That was like...
It was really funny because we were talking about this and you were like,
this is probably one of the best cards ever, but we have a high likelihood of all decisions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boy, was I wrong.. Boy, was I wrong.
Goddamn, was I wrong.
I make some good picks, but every now and then, I looked at the matchups, I'm like,
everyone's so close in competition and skill-wise.
We're going to get a lot of decisions, which I don't mind.
And then as we're watching, I'm glad I was wrong.
As we're watching, I'm like, holy shit, best UFC card ever.
I don't know what was the most surprising outcome
too it's like did you just crack yourself yeah and just hit the antlers you're right jamie scg
just ran i told you that was a bad idea put that thing there all right we're gonna put out like a
red light we got uh an elk antler right over near where jamie has to walk he's hit it twice
it's the it's the hat with the brim.
The brim blocks the effort.
It hasn't been there forever, and I'm not there.
Right, spatial awareness.
You're getting used to the space.
Fuck, man.
So I think maybe one of the most impressive things
or confusing or unexpected was how fucking good GSP looked.
The dude's gone for four years, comes back,
and immediately I see him moving around and popping the jab,
and I'm like, Jesus Christ, he looks like GSP.
Now, yeah, yeah.
See, I wasn't that, and everyone's like, oh, here's Sha, the hater.
I wasn't that in love with GSP's performance.
You weren't?
I thought he looked good. I thought he looked good.
I thought he looked heavy.
I didn't think he looked as, you know, obviously he put on some pounds.
He was thick.
He was thick, thick, like three musketeer thick.
I thought he put on some pounds and his cardio wasn't that great.
He had cardio for days before.
Yeah, he definitely was suffering a little bit because of that.
And also, it has to be a big factor four years off.
Just the nerves and all that jazz.
Huge factor.
And the struggle to hold Bisping down.
Bisping's fucking hard.
And, you know, honestly, taking him down was one of the worst things that could have happened.
He got cut the fuck up from the top.
Bisping didn't work down there.
And what I was worried, if it went to decision, I thought, Bisping's actually winning.
Even though GSP got him down for that portion, if the, hopefully the judges see that Bisping's doing the damage down there.
Oh, for sure.
That should count in their eyes.
I agree.
I agree 100%.
The only time that's ever really counted, though, in a fight is Kevin Randleman
versus Boss Rutten.
Remember?
Kevin Randleman took Boss Rutten down, but Boss Rutten was beating the shit out of him
from the bottom, and Randleman didn't do anything,
but a lot of people were super outraged after that decision. That was a weird one because most of the fight was spent with Boss on the bottom and Randleman didn't do anything but a lot of people were super outraged after that decision you know that was a weird one because most of the
fight was spent with boss on the bottom and Randleman on top. That's old school I
think I think GSP obviously looked great past the test I didn't see I always look
what's next I didn't think I thought Bisping was super hesitant because for
this reason they trained earlier right right? They trained in 2008.
And I guess 2006, so a while ago.
I guess GSP just kind of mopped the floor with them,
like kind of did whatever he wanted.
So then I think GSP's camp and their thinking was, all right,
middleweight's really not where we should be at,
but Bisping's kind of easy picking for us.
We might as well go get the belt from him if we're going to do this big comeback.
So I think he thought it was a good matchup.
And I think because they trained prior, that wasn't normal Bisping.
Bisping pushes the pace.
I think he was so worried about the takedown, rightfully so.
I don't think that Bisping didn't look great to me either.
No, he looked very stiff.
Super hesitant and stiff.
And he looked like Father Time was like, yo, man, tonight's your night.
I don't think it was a Father Time thing.
I think it was in the back of his mind.
I mean, he was very openly admitting that GSP dominated those training sessions
that they had in 2006.
And he was saying, look, I'm much better than I was back then,
which I'm sure he is, but you can only get so much better.
It's also a mental thing.
Like, damn, when he did that and he's impossible to get off.
So I think he was very reserved.
But I just, I thought, again, I thought after
four years, hell yeah, George looked good.
Did George look good enough to beat like a
Whitaker or Yoel Romero?
Probably not. Not to hate on his, not
to hate on what's going on right now because the epic night.
I just look at the real
middleweights. Meaning Whitaker,
Yoel, Luke Rockhold.
And with those cardio problems, I was like, this was a fun one.
And you're crazy if you think he's going to fight again at 85.
That didn't happen.
I don't think so either.
I can promise you that's not happening.
I think he drops right back down to 170.
He's fighting Woodley next.
Yeah, when I was thinking about him fighting, and Woodley's no fucking picnic.
That ain't a good time.
That's not a cakewalk.
That ain't a good time.
Match-up-wise, it's very tough for GSP.
But, you know, Woodley's been dealing with a shoulder injury.
He hurt his shoulder pretty bad in that fight early in the Thompson fight.
And so what he does about that is what's up in the air.
If he chooses to have surgery, I believe he has a—I don't know if he's talked about it,
but I think he has a labrum tear.
So the question is what he decides to do about that.
I heard him say about
colby coming to him we should talk about him he's killing me lately but yeah in a good way but he
was saying he goes yeah my shoulder's messed up but it's good enough where i could whoop colby's
ass now is it good enough to whoop gsp probably not but whittaker's out too yeah if you if whittaker's
almost back if they do another intern belt at Welterweight, I'm going to bust.
I'm going to freak out.
If there's more intern belts, I'm going to freak the fuck out.
If they do it, who would they do?
Well, if Woodley has to do surgery and then GSP's like, no, I'm not fighting.
Wonderboy versus Covington?
Oh, my God.
Or GSP versus someone down there.
GSP versus someone.
We get a lot of press.
Yep.
They think they got over a million pay-per-view buys Saturday night.
I hope so.
Yeah.
I hope so.
I thought it was going to do around 700s. They might have gotten a million pay-per-view buys Saturday night. I hope so. Yeah. I hope so.
I thought it was going to do around 700s.
They might have gotten a million just from Canada.
They said Canada was tracking higher than the pay-per-view for Mayweather versus McGregor.
Really?
Yeah.
Canada, come on.
Canada's crazy for GSP, bro. Love them some GSP.
I mean, he won athlete of the year back when the UFC was not nearly as popular.
It's true.
He's big.
Pre-Ronda and pre-Connor, he won Athlete of the Year in Canada.
Well, now, obviously, there's the Conor McGregor effect,
but there's no one in the UFC who can go to Canada
and sell out the Bell Center, the Giant Toronto.
Now you can do that.
His next fight, you can go up there and do that.
Oh, my God.
His next fight, now he's the middleweight champion in the world?
Holy shit.
Jesus Christ.
You know in his contract, and Dana said this,
but contracts are like pinky swears in the UFC.
They're kind of like, all right, whatever. You know what I'm saying?
I think, you know, in his contract he has, and he said this, and it's in his contract,
he has to defend for the middleweight title.
But again, I don't think it's going to happen.
Because you hear, Freddie Roach talked about how 85's not where he wants to be at.
When they asked him what's next.
And then also, remember, all this adds up. It's easy to figure out. You where he wants to be at when they asked him what's next.
And then also, remember, all this adds up.
It's easy to figure out.
You don't have to be fucking Sherlock Holmes.
Whitaker was cage side.
If that fight was next, the way you rip your promo is bring Whitaker into the cage.
They're like, no, son, you're good.
You sit there.
You ain't coming in here.
We don't need that right now.
So, Brocktober's over.
It's definitely over.
Yeah, I don't know, man. Whitaker, I I'm sure would want that fight. Hell yeah, he'd want
that fight. I don't think GSP was ever really
considering it. No, it's just not a possibility.
I think GSP... Woodley's next.
Yeah.
With Woodley injured,
here's the real crazy question.
If Conor
defends against Tony,
and that's a big fight.
Which I heard is in March.
That's the rumors.
What do you think about GSP versus Conor?
I know, right?
I'm whispering because it's crazy.
A lot of things have to happen in order for that to line up.
So Conor would have to beat Tony.
GSP has to lose a shitload of weight.
Which I think he's down to do.
He was a gorilla.
When I interviewed him at the weigh-ins
and I put my arm on him,
I was like, what in the fuck, dude?
He's giant now.
It's too much.
It was just too much.
Huge.
Yeah, yeah.
He's way bigger.
He looked like 200 plus pounds
when he got into the office.
His frame's so much bigger than Conor.
But just the magnitude of that fight,
they do it at a catch weight.
That's a super fight. When we talk about super
fights, now that's a motherfucking super
fight. It would have to be at 170,
but if they did do it at 170.
Conor would have to get through
Tony. GSP's going to have to beat Woodley
and then he'd get an end of next year. There's a lot that has to
line up because Conor beating
Tony's a tough one. But even
if he doesn't, it's still a super fight, right?
If he loses by devastating knockout,
it's not a super fight.
Yeah.
You know,
I'm probably not going to see GSP again.
You know,
the thing about Woodley is if Woodley wins,
you're probably going to the hospital.
Unless your name's wonder boy.
And then you're probably going to sleep on the couch as a fan.
Well,
one,
but wonder boy fight at least went to decision.
But there was moments in that fight where it looked like Wonderboy was going out.
Hell yeah.
I mean, Woodley puts people to sleep.
I mean, he hits fucking hard.
But here's the question, like how much damage has been done to his shoulder?
And what needs to be, I mean, it's a labrum tear, whatever sort of a tear it is.
Can it be fixed with stem cells?
Can it be fixed with rehab?
Or is it damaged to the point where he's going to need surgery?
Because if he does, he's likely out a year.
That's what Kane had.
Kane had labrum surgery.
Correct.
He was out for a year.
It's a rough one, too, to come back from.
Yeah.
It's not an easy road back.
And especially if you're someone who has that wild punching style like Woodley.
Think about how much fucking torque that guy puts in his punches.
And he might be the heaviest hitter in the history of the 170-pound division.
You watch that fight with Josh Koscheck.
Or watch that fight with Jay Heron.
Dude, he hits.
When Anthony Johnson was cutting to 70, he begs to differ.
That's different.
He had no business being down in the ring.
Yeah.
But I hear you.
Especially right now.
You know, he's talking about coming back as a heavyweight.
I know.
Which is good because that division needs him.
It does need him, but why is he...
I don't get it.
Yeah, I don't get it either.
He said he didn't want to fight anymore.
He's like, he's done.
Well, you know, he thought he was done.
He thought that's the life he wants.
Then when you're there, you're like, oh, this sucks.
Oh, wait, I feel actually pretty good.
I can go to heavyweight and not cut all that weight.
I wonder...
And the division's slim.
But how much weight is he really cutting at
205? Probably
30 pounds. You think he walks around
at 235? Hell yeah.
He's a freak, man.
So much weight. So much weight.
He's an absolute freak. So I made a good
point. It was either you or DC. Who, by the way,
my MVP, everyone
tore it up at Mesquite Garden.
DC is stealing my heart, man, as a commentator.
That motherfucker is good.
He's bringing some personality to it.
Yeah, he's himself.
Yes.
He's himself.
Yes.
Like in Brazil, he got a little too excited in the cage, but he's great, man.
Dillashaw, Killashaw, Thrillashaw.
Yeah, he's great.
He's like, I can't talk right now.
I'm so nervous.
I love that.
When Rose won and he starts yelling out, fuck Rose!
Yes, I want that.
I want that too.
That's what I want.
Yes.
Everyone doing it, take notes.
Be yourself.
DC's not being fake.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
He's living in the moment.
DC is fucking hilarious.
Yes.
DC has one of the best personalities ever.
When you're hanging around him, like outside of commentary, outside of the fight, people
don't know him.
And it's a goddamn shame that people boo him.
They should love that guy.
They should love him.
His personality is amazing.
So when he's himself, that himself is great.
Like me and him are always laughing and slapping each other in the back.
He's awesome.
Crying, laughing.
Yeah.
He's the best.
He grew up in locker room, so he's going to know that chit chat. You know what I'm saying? He knows the vibe. He's a and slapping each other in the back. He's awesome. Crying, laughing. Yeah. He's the best, man. He grew up in locker rooms, so he's going to know that chit-chat.
You know what I'm saying?
He knows the vibe.
He's a funny dude.
And he's smart.
He knows a shitload about wrestling, too.
What an asset he is whenever there's some sort of a takedown attempt or when someone's
doing something wrong and he can explain it.
That's the future, man.
And he's good at it and wants to do it.
Yeah, he's great, man.
He's great.
But the Thug Rose one was my favorite.
He's hilarious.
He's just being himself but it was either him or you that made the point of you know you really got to give
it up to woodley for what he did to wonder boy when you see what wonder boy did to 100 with
wonder boy does to everybody well everybody this is the reason why i felt it was unfair to criticize
woodley because if i was in woodley's corner I would have told him to fight the exact same fight.
Like people have said to me after the commentary, like, why didn't you say that that fight was boring?
I go, because it wasn't boring.
It wasn't boring to me while it was happening.
It might be boring if you knew what happened and you had to watch the four rounds before.
If you're not like really into tactics or try to figure out what's happening.
But to me, there's just dire consequences to any mistake you make against Woodley.
And there's dire consequences against Wonderboy.
Really, Wonderboy?
Wonderboy can knock you out.
I think with Woodley and the Wonderboy battle, I think they're just bad dance partners.
But I also think you make one mistake against Wonderboy, especially Woodley being shorter.
You're in a lot of fucking trouble.
And he knew that.
Now, to me, the fight wasn't great they weren't great that last one wasn't great but there were times when it was good but I think the way Woodley dealt with it and kind of
figured it out and you said this on the on the commentary on the broadcast where that might be
the only way to beat Wonderboy yep that's it it's gonna it's not gonna be exciting fights not gonna
be great and Woodley figured that out now when you go to the Maya fight, it's like, all right, god damn it.
When you go over there, then it's another thing.
But again-
With the Maya fight, though, if he did hurt his shoulder early in the fight, think about
dealing with a guy who's one of the best fucking rappers ever.
Nightmare.
Ever.
And being in a position where you can't use one of your arms right.
Nightmare.
You almost have to fight the way he fought against Maya.
You don't want to go to the ground.
And people are like, oh, you're a fucking Tyrone Woodley apologist.
You're a Tyrone Woodley lover.
No, it is what it is.
You're a ball rider.
You're a ball rider.
I think it just lined up for him where it's like, this is the monster you're dealing with.
And you get the shoulder.
He needs a guy like Colby.
Yes.
I agree.
Colby Compton.
And I sent you a screenshot of his.
I woke up to this Twitter where Colby. It's tweeted John Compton, and I sent you a screenshot of his. I woke up to this
Twitter where Colby, and
listen, I told
Colby, this is what I was saying on my show,
I was saying, you know, people say,
hey man, let's not cross a line. I went, Colby, you listen
to me right now. You find that line, you fucking
run through it. Whatever you're doing is working,
man. Don't get racist,
but run through that fucking line.
And he's doing it. From Brazil on, his fucking social media presence has gone through that fucking line well what he's doing it from brazil on his
his fucking social media presence has gone through the roof like when people what people think of him
has gone through the roof more people are talking about him now than ever before he's ranked number
three yeah he's number three in the world they're talking about a title shot well he did beat the
shit out of damian maya he beat the brain in brazil in brazil wore his ass out and it was only a three
round fight i mean who knows it was only a three-round fight.
I mean, who knows if it was a five-round fight, he might have got a stoppage.
He would have stopped him, yeah.
Very well might have.
Yeah, good chance.
He's beating the shit out of him.
Yeah.
And Colby is, he's young, he's brash, he's fucking tough as shit.
Look at this.
John Jones says to George St. Pierre, hey, George St. Pierre, you've always been one
of my biggest inspirations.
Show the world how great you can be tonight.
Praying for you.
Colby Covington says,
Shut up, loser!
You're the biggest fuck-up in the history of sports.
Hashtag UFC 217.
Why is he going so hard in the paint at Jon Jones?
He doesn't care, man.
But it's working because I like what Rose says.
Rose, I thought, was the biggest MVP of the night.
But I like what Rose says.
She's like, man, I'm sick of this fight culture where guys are just going super hard in the paint,
talking shit and not being themselves.
Like, I'm a good person.
Let's be nice to each other.
I'm like, hell yeah.
I love that shit, Rose.
And then I open up my Twitter to see Colby.
I'm like, but then that also makes sense?
Like, I have this angel, you know what I'm saying? A demon on my shoulder like, yeah, Colby.
No, Rose, this is nice.
It all makes sense.
Look, it's exciting.
The shit talking is exciting.
Yeah, I like when they make up afterwards.
That's what I'm happy.
They talk plenty of shit, they fight, and then they make up.
TJ and Cody really didn't.
They're like, I respect you.
And then Cody's like, yeah, I respect them.
But everything I said was true.
Fuck that guy.
Well, when TJ got in his face right after the stoppage and was like touching his face.
That's what you get though.
Screaming out.
When you're dealing with a fight of that magnitude and there's that much high emotion and passion,
there's going to be a little bit of that.
Yeah, but I never saw anybody do that before.
I never saw anybody win by stoppage.
And then when the guy gets up just fucking out of it tj's in his face screaming at
the top of his lungs with his mouth touching his face like he was kissing him like he was a baby
bird and he was like on his tippy toes like it's a great picture just shredded an amazing picture
but that but again you know with cody had all that ammunition just the week of like i didn't
knock you out drops the video and i was like oh, I didn't knock you out. Goo! Drops the video.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
I think one of the worst things that happened for Cody is that he got that knockdown.
Because he thought he could do it again.
Are you saying in practice or in the first round?
No, no, no.
In the fight.
In the first round.
Look at that.
That is insane.
I mean, they are lip to lip.
Yeah, lip to lip.
They're kissing.
Essentially kissing.
Cody is completely out of it, right?
He just got knocked out cold.
I wasn't sure if he was out cold, but if you watch the stoppage, he stops moving.
He got hit a bunch of times.
It was a good stoppage.
He came right back.
God, I should stop coughing, right?
I love both those guys, man.
He came right back.
He got back up pretty quickly, but I think that's conditioning and just realizing that he came to.
He's a monster.
Look at TJ.
Look how shredded TJ is.
How the fuck is he going to cut 10 more pounds to go down and fight Mighty Mouse?
Do they do it at catch weight?
Do the belts really fucking matter?
They're going to do it at 125.
Do it at 125?
Yeah.
When I talk to TJ, he swears he can make it.
He goes all day easily.
He might be able to.
He might be able to.
Hey, Mighty Mouse, who else are you going to fight?
Well, if he gets Mike Dolce behind him or George Lockhart or one of those weight cutting specialists.
Yeah.
He has someone.
He does?
He has some new guy who's a monster.
That's why he looks like that right now.
He has some new guy that he moved to California for.
If you get a guy who's a weight cutting expert, I bet he could probably do it.
Oh, he'll do it for sure.
He wanted to do it originally. He was already making
the cut when he thought it was going to happen.
He goes, it's no problem for me. He's very disappointed
in that fight. And I see his point, but I also see
Mighty Mouse's point. Mighty Mouse's point
is, look, what if TJ doesn't make the cut
and then I lose the fight? What if
he doesn't make the weight and then I lose the fight to him?
He's like, that's a big deal. And I don't
set the record. Yeah, he wanted to set the record.
The record was giant to him.
He wanted to set the record in his weight class.
So he said, look, I have one requirement.
Let TJ win a fight at 125.
Let him fight at 125.
Let him win, and then I'll have him come over.
Look at him, jacked.
That's after he won.
That's real, too, man.
I mean, that's some raw shit.
That's some raw emotion.
They're going to fight three more times.
There's so much shit talking going on. It was so personal for're gonna fight three more times there's so much
shit talking going on
it was so personal
for these two
yeah
boy it looked bad
when he got clipped
he got clipped
at the end of the first round
and it looks like
wow
really bad
Colby has a piston
for a right hand
unbelievable speed
but then he came back
real quick
like at the beginning
of the second round
he looked fine
he looked amazing
he looked fine
like didn't look
like anything was wrong with him.
And he started throwing a lot more kicks.
And did you see what TJ said?
Because they were like, oh, you're going to give Cody and me that rematch?
He goes, hell no.
Look at the fire I had to walk through to get back here.
He goes, it doesn't work like that.
It's true.
He goes, it does not work like that.
I had to fight, what, three guys?
I had to wait over a year?
Fight three monsters?
He had to fight Lineker.
Yeah.
By the way, he fucking neutralized Lineker, too.
That was one of the more, in my opinion, one of the more fascinating fights
because I don't think there's another guy in the division that would have neutralized Lineker in that way
and not gotten hit.
Agree.
You know what I mean?
Maybe Dominic.
Maybe Dominic.
But the thing about TJ versus Dominic is TJ's more kick-oriented.
TJ can—he's not that Dominic doesn't have kicks but I think T.J. has more flexibility
he's more loose on the outside
T.J. wins by head kick
he head kicks guys
he will do all of the above
he doesn't have in any way a limited arsenal
and I don't know what they're going to do next
but Dominic vs. Jimmy Rivera
is a tough fight for Dom
I don't know what it is
but Jimmy Rivera is a fucking nightmare for people.
Tank.
He's undefeated.
He kind of mopped the floor with Uriah Faber.
Like, he's no joke, man.
Dude, that low kick.
He's flying under the radar, but.
Yeah, he is.
And his head is twice as big as either one of us.
He's a tank.
At that weight class.
And his low kick, that low kick that everyone's doing, that below the calf kick or the calf
kick, god damn, that is a debilitating kick.
That dude's my dark horse. No one's really talking about him god he's a tiger shulman guy yeah you know when i was
uh uh in the martial arts in new york and like that area tiger shulman had like a whole chain
of karate schools and i'm sure they did competitions and stuff i'm pretty sure
but no one ever would have thought they would become like a powerhouse for mma but they've had quite a few like really talented fighters
well they had that kid with the green hair the fuck's his name bantamweight gentleman oh i know
you're fucking talking about god i can't remember his name i do do um he stopped he stopped fighting
I can't remember his name. I do, too.
God damn it.
He stopped fighting a while back.
Yeah, he did.
He kind of just dipped out, right?
Yeah.
He was like, I'm out.
They have that kid.
This is going to be a lot of they have that kid that did this.
I can't remember this either.
Sorry to put you on the spot.
Oh, yeah?
Where at?
One of his other guys had this crazy choke that we had to go over in the gym and try
to figure out.
Yes.
Yes. Louis Gardineau. Yep. Sorry, to figure out. Yes, Louis Gardineau.
Sorry, Louis.
Louis Gardineau.
He was one of my faves, though.
Tough dude.
I believe he's a Tiger Shulman guy, I'm pretty sure.
And then there's been a few other guys, too.
The only one who's going to get a rematch on the card is Joanna.
She deserves it.
After defending the title that many times,
you get murked in that first round.
I think that qualifies for immediate rematch.
Well, I think that's where the big money is for sure.
I mean, people are going to want to see that.
That's a big fight.
Because when Joanna walked out,
dude, the pop from the audience
was immense. She's finally become
this star that they've been
putting all this promotion into her. She's winning fights. She's finally become like this star that they've been putting all this
promotion into her.
She's winning fights.
Yeah.
She was kind of thriving in it a little,
almost a little too much,
which is one of the reasons I think she lost.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little bit of the Rhonda syndrome there a little bit.
Well,
I don't know if it's that,
but you know,
she was definitely doing a lot of press and it was a lot of fucking
tremendous amount of pressure.
But I'll tell you what,
dude,
when she was talking to the camera, she was talking to Rose, and she's like, the boogie
woman coming for you.
The boogie woman coming for you.
I got fucking nervous.
Were you scared?
I was nervous.
I was legitimately nervous.
People thought it was the greatest promo of all time.
I was like, boogie woman?
What the fuck?
I was like, what the fuck is that?
When you see her looking at Rose in her eyes, staring into her soul, and she's talking all
kinds of crazy shit, I'm going to fuck
you up. I'm going to hurt you and Rose
is saying the Lord's Prayer.
That's some demonic shit. I was like what?
I asked Rose. I go what are you saying? She's like
I was saying the Lord's Prayer and she didn't even look
at anybody. She wouldn't look at me. Okay.
I was like alright. I'm like wow this
is for real. Where do you go?
It would be easy to say in retrospect
I knew then something special
was going to happen. Hell no. I thought
Rose needed to see a psychiatrist.
When I saw that weigh in I'm like we need to
get Rose some help ASAP.
I've known Rose forever. I'm like you know what we need some professional
help. But after the fact knowing the
result that Rose won by knockout it
makes it even all the more profound.
Now you're going to see motherfuckers just reciting
prayers nonstop.
Look, you want to talk about, I hope the UFC realizes, and I think they do, that's a fucking
star.
Rose?
That's a real star.
Hell yeah.
I mean, a real star.
She has the look.
She has the skills.
She's 25 years old.
She's got the look.
She shaves her head.
She's a beautiful person.
Stranger thing look is so in right now.
It's so in.
That 11 look is so in.
She's 12. She's 12. She's 11 look is so in. She's 12.
She's 12.
She's 11.0.
She's a, yeah.
And she's like a genuinely good person.
Like when she was talking after the fight, she's like, just y'all be, just be nice to
each other.
Here's the thing, Joe.
That's real.
That's coming from her.
Do the fans gravitate towards that nice person?
Oh yeah, for sure.
When you look like her and you weigh 115 pounds, you're a woman and you fuck up the boogie
woman. Yeah. The boogie woman. Maybe. Yeah. I hope so. I hope so like her and you weigh 115 pounds, you're a woman and you fuck up the boogie woman.
Yeah.
The boogie woman.
Maybe, yeah.
I hope so.
I guarantee you, man.
If she doesn't become as big a star as any other woman in MMA, I would be stunned.
Damn.
I would be stunned.
I like that prediction.
Because she's a good person, man.
She's worked hard.
Misha Tate got some star out of it.
Ronda clearly got the biggest, right?
For sure. Ronda got got the biggest, right?
For sure.
Ronda got the biggest by far.
She was the biggest as far as people paying attention. It was timing her opponents.
Everything.
It was her insane domination.
For sure.
Opponents just weren't on her level until they were.
So until she fought Holly, they weren't really on her level.
And she also had this new thing, which was the female ass kicker, this thing that didn't exist before.
So in that way, like one of the most unique athletes ever.
For sure.
Besides Laila Ali and who's the coal miner's daughter?
Christy Martin.
Remember Christy Martin from back in the old Tyson fights?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She'd be fighting on the undercard.
Yeah, yeah.
The coal miner's daughter.
Remember that?
For sure.
But they're pioneers, but it's different.
Yeah.
Not that much.
Like, Laila Ali got a few people paying attention to her.
You better be able to box your dad's Muhammad Ali, for God's sakes.
I know.
What the fuck?
I mean, that's a shoo-in.
Yeah, man.
Being George Lucas's daughter, like, you're going to be in Star Wars for fuck's sake.
Yeah.
But it just never hit the levels that it hit with Ronda.
No.
Right?
But I think that it's possible that Rose could be the biggest star in MMA today.
I really think so.
I don't think anyone's ever going to be a Ronda because that was the first one.
It was a crazy thing.
Yeah, I agree.
But Rose could be gigantic.
I mean, who knows if she could be as big as Ronda, but she could be gigantic.
I really think so.
Yeah, I like that she's true to herself.
She's fucking wild, too, dude. She does wild shit.
She throws up flying arm bars.
I mean, she does wild shit.
That fucking karate hottie fight
when she head kicked her and then choked her out.
Dude, she's a little savage.
She gets on your back.
That division is kind of stacked though.
Yolanda went through a lot of people, but for Rose
there's a lot of tough competition. She's a very tough competition a lot of people, but for Rose, there's a lot of tough competition.
There's very tough competition.
There's tough competition standing up, too.
There's a lot of good strikers in that division.
Best case scenario, though, especially for the UFC and Rose, because Rose is my favorite fighter in that division, coming from Denver.
But, you know, that division, for her to defend it and build a star like they had in Joanna, that's when you get a star.
But if that belt's circulating, the public doesn't gravitate towards that.
We don't like that.
And, you know, she's likely going to have to fight Carolina, who went five hard rounds with Joanna and three rounds with her.
Was it three or five rounds with her which won the decision?
Three, right?
I think it was three.
It was Jessica Andrade.
Jessica Andrade is a monster.
Her last fight was scary. And then Claudia Gadeja. Jessica Andrade beat the shit out of Claudia Gadeja. It was Jessica Andrade. Jessica Andrade is a monster. Her last fight was scary.
And then Claudia Gadea.
Jessica Andrade beat the shit out of Claudia Gadea.
She beat the brakes off Claudia.
Beat the shit out of her.
That was tough to watch.
And the manhandling.
No offense.
Wool manhandling.
She wool manhandled her.
Strong arms.
She smashed.
She Hulk smashed.
She straight up Hulk smashed her. She straight up Hulk smashed her. Yeah, straight up. She Hulk smashed. She straight-up Hulk smashed her.
She straight-up Hulk smashed her.
Yeah, straight-up.
She really did.
I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
Exactly.
I haven't seen an ass whooping like that since Cyborg got a hold of some bitch.
Didn't we watch that one live?
Didn't we do a fight companion for that?
Did we?
I don't think we did because I'm a huge Claudia fan.
I think she's so hot.
Yeah, she's very pretty.
Right?
Yeah.
She's taking a break, though.
Well, you know what, man?
The body only has so many wars in it.
That's why she cut that weight.
That's what a lot of people were talking about with Ioana.
They were thinking about Ioana.
Like, think about Ioana going-
After the fact, though.
But before the fact, before the fact, there was some discussion.
We were talking about, look, I didn't think that Rose was going to do that.
The fuck?
No.
I mean, did I bet on it?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah! Yeah, I did. Did you? You bet on Rose? That's a good bet.
Well, she's such a big underdog. 4-1?
Shit, she was plus, I think
I got a plus 500. I posted it, whatever
it was. I put $500 on her.
I forget how much, two grand or something.
That's nice. Yeah, just because
Rose, she has that X factor where
she just explodes.
She's wild. For a female fighter, yeah, she's wild.
Wild.
It's hard to train for.
And you know, at the beginning of the fight, you know, Ioana, she had done nothing to Ioana.
All, Ioana would get in her face.
She'd put her fist out, touch her fist with her face.
You know, Ioana was really trying to get in her head.
And the whole time, Roar's going, oh, father in heaven.
Some scary shit.
Yeah, it was scary shit.
But when the actual face down came, face down, when they're standing in front of each other
and they're about to fight, Ioana's talking all the crazy shit.
And she got close to her and Rose pushed her away.
She's like, bitch, get the fuck out of here.
Get out of here.
And that's when it got dirty.
And then she did work.
What the fuck did she do?
I don't think Ioana landed a punch.
She landed like a leg kick.
But Rose opened strong with a leg kick.
And I was like, oh, Jesus.
And then she threw that leaping hook.
Deku!
Trevor Whitman is a bad motherfucker.
Well, when you have Trevor Whitman, yeah, that's who I started with.
He is a phenomenal.
He's a mastermind.
Phenomenal striking coach.
If you have him focused on one fighter, he's a master.
Well, he has Justin Gaethje.
He has Rose.
Dude, yes.
He had Carwin, Nate Marcarte.
Dude, come on.
GSP used to fly down to Denver just to work on his jab.
Just Gaethje training now.
Think about this fight that he's got with Eddie Alvarez.
Training now for Eddie Alvarez.
Gaethje, what is his fucking record?
It's something insane.
20 and 0 or something like that?
G-A-T-H, you know how to spell his name?
He's got an insane record.
He's been mopping the floor with those C-level fighters in World Series,
but still it was fun.
But still, the Michael Johnson fight.
18-0.
There you go.
18-0.
Look at that.
One submission, two decisions, 15 knockouts.
God damn.
But I know Trevor.
When Gaethje fights, sometimes technique goes out the window and he goes,
fuck it. Dude, he's a fucking animal. Which technique goes out the window and he goes, fuck it.
Dude, he's a fucking animal.
Which is why people love him.
He's wild as shit.
That Michael Johnson fight showed that.
Michael Johnson hurt him, you know, tagged him hard.
And he came back and smashed him.
That Eddie Alvarez fight is a great fight.
Fuck yeah, it's a great fight.
Because people forget, but Justin Gaethje, his background is wrestling.
Yeah.
He was an amazing wrestler at the University of Northern Colorado.
Freak.
Athletic freak.
Vision is awful, too.
He squints.
He has to have glasses all the time.
I'm like, bro, what the fuck, man?
Can you get that fixed?
I don't think you can get LASIK and fight.
The commissioners don't let you.
They don't let you do LASIK, but you can do the other kind.
PR.
No, no.
PD.
I almost said PDK, like a Porsche.
There's two different kinds. There's LASIK like that the other kind some of the use a scalpel yeah the one that they use
a scalpel apparently they can do that's the russian shit that's what i had done i think did
you yeah what was wrong with your vision uh i have to have contacts and glasses i've seen guys fight
with those and they lose a contact and they drop it and then they got to keep fighting and now
you're like one eye one eyes kid like how do you fight with soft, and they lose a contact, and they drop it, and then they got to keep fighting. And now you're like.
One eye.
One eyes, kid.
Like, how can you fight with soft contacts in your eyeballs?
That is crazy.
Yeah, I got LASIK after I was playing lacrosse game, and I was zoning out, and I was in Denver, and it was cold.
And my contact froze.
And they're like, you're in.
I was like, now?
I was like, oh, fuck.
And then someone hit me, and it shattered in my eye.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
You had a hard contact?
Yeah, a hard one. Oh, my God. would you get hit with a ball or a stick i think some dude just lit me up or something
my fucking contacts fucking shredded and i was like i need to i'm playing you know sports here
man i can't have fucking contact that used to always freak me out about glasses like if someone
got punched with glasses on the glass went into their eyes.
I was like,
Ooh.
I mean,
well,
they used to have those thick gas.
Remember those thick gas,
like athletic ones.
My poor brother used to wear those.
Like it was Kurt Rambis or some shit.
Even those though.
What if those things break?
They're so fucking thick.
Like they're,
they're what?
Like,
uh,
the president's windows are made.
You can make them.
Oh,
you can make it like out of a,
like a plexiglass.
Yeah,
that's what they were.
It doesn't necessarily have to be glass it wasn't glass it's like a thick
thick plastic so really can't breathe yeah super nerdy no chicks when you wear that thing well
it's funny to me when basketball players get like a broken nose or something like that and then
forever they have this fucking mask on too much right yeah too much too much it's because of what
we see they wear for the next few weeks, too. Well, it's crazy.
It's like this dude.
Oh, come on, LeBron.
Carbon fiber, too?
I love it.
LeBron James had one of those?
Yeah, a lot of people have had it.
But did LeBron wear it because of an injury?
Yeah.
Or did he wear it just to be a beast?
No, you can't wear that shit to be a beast.
Let me see that.
Give me a close-up on that.
It does look kind of...
That's insane.
That's carbon fiber.
Yo, I love it.
It does look pretty gangster.
I want to wear one right now.
I want to wear one just when I go out.
As this shit goes down.
The nose is such a terrible design.
I know you had your nose fixed after the Crow Cop fight.
Oh, God.
But I just see so many people get their nose smashed.
They had a close-up of cowboys.
Oh, Kobe had one too, huh?
Almost everyone's had one.
Because they all hurt their nose.
That's it.
Kobe looks like Zorro there.
That's pretty badass.
It does look pretty badass, but seriously.
I want one too, though.
That's some bitch-ass shit.
If you think about all the stuff that fighters go through.
Yeah, come on.
Get out of here, man.
Cody's was rough.
Yeah.
I mean, Cowboys.
Cowboys is rough.
Darren Till caught him with that elbow, that fucking snapping down elbow.
I know we did the fight companion for that one.
Yeah, I know.
I told you, dude.
Vinny Shorman would not stop raving about Darren Till.
He would not stop raving before the fight.
And Shorman knows his shit.
He was like, mate, you've never seen anything like it.
He's a freak.
This kid's going to be a champion.
Yeah.
Most people think from Liverpool.
He doesn't have a fight lined up, but I'm surprised.
He wants to fight Wonderboy.
I'd watch the shit out of that.
I'd watch the shit out of that.
You know who I went with?
Who's that line?
Till versus Colby
Holy shit
Let these young lions kill each other
You know what I'm saying?
Like
Why not?
Yeah but if you're a fan of high level striking
You tell me Wonderboy vs. Darren Till wouldn't be insane
I'd watch it all goddamn day
I'd watch the shit out of that fight
If I'm Wonderboy though I'm like
I'm not taking that fucking monster
What is he, seven?
No, man.
It is huge.
I just beat Maz Vidal.
He's huge.
He's enormous.
Darren Dill's a big welterweight.
Ain't no one trying to fight him.
He's big.
The only guy who wants to fight him, what's that guy?
Mike Perry.
Mike Perry wants to fight him, but he has a huge fight coming up.
He's fighting Ponzinobbio.
You got to concentrate on Ponzinobbio.
Definitely got to concentrate.
Concentrate on Ponzinobbio.
Bro, how about your boy Johnny Hendricks?
Was like, I figured it out.
I'm going down to Jackson's.
Let me try this out.
Kikoo!
That ain't the answer, son.
Yeah, he fought the fucking Eraser, dude.
That guy's scary.
Even post-Usada scary.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Eraser, listen to me right now.
That golden snitch is good.
You better.
I don't know what Aldo did all these years but you figured
out you better figure it out i looked at his body i thought what the fuck dude he's so jacked he's
jacked in shape good like might be the best looking dude in the ufc best looking dude on the planet
he's right up there he's right i didn't want to come off as gay with his shirt off in particular
dude that's not even a good picture. He's too aggressive there.
But when they were doing the post-fight showdown
I'm like, I bet he slangs all the ring card
girls if he wanted to. As he was talking, I'm like
this dude is just slanging
dick out there. Look at it right there. Dude, when he was standing
next to Johnny Hendricks at the weigh-in, I was like
no, Johnny. You are not a middleweight.
This is a middleweight. This is a
big middleweight. Look how much
bigger he is than Johnny.
And Shred City.
And the fight was basically an assault.
It was an assault.
You would never believe that Johnny Hendricks was a former world champion if you saw the way the Eraser beat the shit out of him.
I mean, he just beat the shit out of him.
Johnny fired back.
I mean, he's tough.
He tried.
Threw some leg kicks, threw some punches,
but he was just getting fucking destroyed
and just walked down
and smashed, kicked to the body
over and over again. He was wincing
after the first kick to the body. I know, man.
The second kick to the body he got hit with,
you see him wincing, and here was when he clipped
Johnny Hendricks. I mean, it was
no contest. Unfortunately for
Johnny in that fight, if you weren't a fan,
just looked at him like, oh, the guy got out of the crowd to fight
this dime piece. Like, look at that.
Right? Oh, this guy who likes to drink
beers fighting this dime piece Brazilian.
He might be the best looking Brazilian of all time, by the way.
Johnny is just not the same
guy. He's just not the same guy.
And you could speculate all day. There's nothing
wrong with that. That's the reasons why. You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think sometimes people
hate on guys for what they've done lately, but for Johnny Hendricks,
man, you've had a great career, brother.
I love Johnny.
I know, but it's just hard for me to watch him in a weight class above where he should
be because he doesn't want to watch his diet.
I think it's a number of things, but I just... Man, there's nothing to hang your head
on.
You're a world champion, man.
Yeah.
A lot of people think you beat GSP.
You've had a great fucking career, man. A lot of people think you won, man. Yeah. You know, a lot of people think you beat GSP. Like, you've had a great fucking career, man.
A lot of people think you won that fight.
A lot of people.
A lot of people think.
There's a good argument to that, too.
Yeah.
You could really have a real, I mean, if you were just objective, you didn't have a dog
in the fight, you could have a real interesting conversation about who won that fight.
There's an argument there.
Sure.
And I think if you're Johnny, you know, and he's probably taking a lot of abuse online,
and I wish he would stop, but it's all good, man.
You've had a good go.
Well, I hope he doesn't take abuse.
Really what we should do, we should be praising heaps on Paulo Costa
because that guy's scary.
He's fucking terrifying.
That guy's the future.
He's legit as fuck.
I haven't seen him on the ground, but yeah.
Well, who knows?
And I would like to see someone test him.
I'd like to see him against a real strong 185-pound wrestler. i think he's four and on the osc and all knockouts or three
and all knockouts his last two he murked dudes so what we got to see is he's for real and he's
the future how's he not on the cover of gq or some shit i'm telling you man i'm fucking when
i was watching i was like the fuck well that could be the one thing i look like fucking
weinstein next to him he was fucking i mean good looking dude Well, that could be the one thing that doesn't matter. I look like fucking Weinstein next to him. You fucking, I mean, good looking dude, man.
Maybe that could be what doesn't matter.
Just OG on pussy.
When you're that good looking, it's got to be hard.
It's got to be hard to say no.
Super hard.
And as he gets more and more famous, you know, he's going to be famous for sure.
For sure.
For sure.
Keep smashing people that way.
Looking that way.
Smashing people that way.
That's trouble, son.
If he's not famous, he should sue the UFC.
She's like, you look at this face.
Are you shitting me?
Look at this body.
How the fuck am I not on the front cover of the video game, for God's sake?
Useless fucks.
It's just Johnny looked two weight classes lighter than him.
Johnny looked like he was a welterweight, and the Eraser looked like he was a light heavyweight.
Johnny's just lost, man. And like, going to
Jackson's, and I'm not knocking Jackson.
Jackson's one of the greatest camps of all time, still is, but
when fighters go there because they've
seen how much success they've had, it's literally
heaven's waiting room. It's the
fucking, you know, it's the Florida
of fighting camps. Well, it's because it's so attractive.
Yeah, here's the solution. I get that, but
if you're going there, it's probably not the answer.
Well, it's also you've got to think of the years that he wasn't there,
and those play a factor in his development.
It's not like you just get right back to where you should have been.
Like, oh, here's the answer.
No, you were training wrong for all these years,
and his performance dwindled pretty substantially,
except for the one fight with Hector Lombard, which is really interesting.
That was like the one fight where he actually looked pretty good. Yeah, he did. And he beat Lombard that's which is really interesting that was like the one fight where he actually looked pretty good
Yeah, he did and he beat Lombard. You know who's right still fucking dangerous
Yeah, and I was like what Johnny Hendricks looks like he's back and that wasn't that long ago. Hell no. It's last year
But there's another guy who shouldn't be at 185 pounds
So he fought a guy who's like him a thick dude
Who's really a 170 that doesn't have the best diet in the world.
You know, I don't care what anybody says, you know, that you shouldn't be criticizing him.
You shouldn't, you know, you don't walk a mile in his shoes.
And, you know, maybe his body doesn't want to respond to cutting down to 170 anymore.
Stop.
Just be honest.
And I'm a Johnny Hendricks fan.
Look at his body.
You should not be fighting the best professional fighters in the world
unless you're a heavyweight and you have a body like that. With all that extra body fat,
that does you no good. It's not aiding your performance in any way, shape, or form.
It is 100% a sign of a lack of either planning, where you didn't plan your diet out in advance,
where you're too heavy or too much body fat coming into camp, or poor discipline or poor organization of your diet
where you don't understand what food you should and shouldn't be eating.
When a guy's training for a three-round fucking fight
at the top of the heap in the UFC's middleweight division,
you've got to think this guy's got to be doing some goddamn rigorous shit.
The American public, if they're watching this going,
if this fucking guy can't look good, how am I going to look good?
And I'm kind of exaggerating
because Johnny didn't look terrible.
I think it was worse because
Homely looked great. Costa looked like a
fucking Greek statue. I mean, you don't have to look
like a bodybuilder. Some of the toughest guys are like
Evan Dunham. He doesn't have a bodybuilder's physique.
But he's not. He doesn't have any extra weight
on him. That extra weight is not doing you any
good. No, Wonderboy's not winning any
events, you know, bodybuilding events. No, but he doesn't have a fucking extra pound on him. Nor does Wood is not doing you any good. No, Wonderboy's not winning any events, you know, bodybuilding
events. No, but he doesn't have a fucking extra pound
on him. Nor does Woodley. Woodley's
fucking shredded. He's got the best body in the division.
Woodley could win the Olympia. He could win
Mr. Olympia. At least top five.
He really just got into it, 100%.
He's got phenomenal genetics.
But anyway, he's
not, you can't be
competing at the highest levels of the sport, giving up that much of an advantage.
If that was a good agreement that you had, like, all right, we could fight at 185, but you have to be 20% body fat and I could be 10.
Like, what?
Especially this day and age.
Mixed martial arts is such a high level.
So high level.
Dude, I was just going over the welterweights the other day and I'm like, holy shit.
Holy shit.
There is so much talent. The UFC and the welterweights the other day, and I'm like, holy shit. Holy shit. There is so much talent.
Like, the UFC and the welterweight division is such good hands.
There's so much young, killing talent.
If you're not taking every advantage of the techniques in your training, you're left in the dust.
And Johnny is from that old school kind of training.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he's an older cat, man.
Well, what he was talking about when he was talking about training in Texas that he couldn't spar hard with people or they wouldn't
come back that he had to like take it light on them and then what he really loved about going
to Jax is he was dealing with real high level fighters all the time so he's getting great
training in which I thought was great to hear but it's not great that he spent so much time
doing it the other way hell no 2017. In 2017? You lose your focus.
You lose the drive, and you just start going through the motions if you're not being challenged
all the time.
And he was obviously being challenged in competition, but he should have been with a real camp a
long time ago.
Agreed.
What happened with him?
He had some, he was with Team Takedown, and they had some sort of a weird agreement.
Yeah.
So he was Team Takedown.
He came from Oklahoma State, right?
National champion, whatever, 70-time All-American, just a monster.
And then the deal was is they're going to support him financially with a house, food, training camp.
They take care of all that.
They give you like a salary?
A salary.
But once you make it, we're taking 50% of everything.
And when you're a young, up-and-coming, hungry fighter, that's a great deal.
Until you become Johnny Hendricks
and become the world champion. Like, hold up.
50%?
I appreciate what you guys did for me, but god damn,
man. Like, you're robbing me blind here.
This is crazy.
So they had to go separate ways. Here's the question.
They opened Big Rick Steakhouse. Did they?
That was a terrible idea. I would eat there, though.
I would eat there just for the story. Yeah, me too.
You and me, selfie, smile, hold out the menu. But I'll hate on it if I would eat there, though. I would eat there just for the story. Yeah, me too. That shit better be good.
You and me, selfie, smile, hold up the menu.
But I'll hate on it if it wasn't good, Johnny.
You'd leave a Yelp review?
Yeah, like, bro, terrible. Would you Yelp?
Have you ever Yelp reviewed?
I've never.
Have you?
Never.
That's why we're friends.
Have you ever, hey, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you
ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you
ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you
ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you
ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you
ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever comment
on YouTube?
Nope.
Nope.
That's why we're friends.
Have you ever hated on a guy on Instagram?
I don't think so. No, me neither. No. No. It's not really my style. No. That's why we're friends. Have you ever hated on a guy on Instagram? I don't think so.
No, me neither. No, it's not really my style. No. It's a waste of time.
Yeah, my friends don't do that.
I don't have any friends that do. There's only so much time.
I don't get it. What the fuck are you going to do?
There's only so much time in this world. You should choose
to use it wisely. I was doing
at my last show, some guy asked me a question
and stood up and goes, hey man, have you
read the YouTube comment? I went, stop there. He goes, I've asked me a question. He stood up and goes, hey, man, have you read the YouTube comment?
I went, stop there.
He goes, I've never read a YouTube comment in my life, my man.
So there's no question.
He goes, really?
Never?
I went, not once.
I'm too busy creating material for you guys.
I'm not reading comments, man.
Wow.
He's like, all right, no doubt.
He's trying to tell you something he wrote.
Some shit. That was really mean.
Probably.
Probably trolling.
Probably.
Maybe.
He felt it.
He was running with it.
Hopefully not.
We're not hating on a guy like johnny i love john like i said there's there's no reason it is
reality right yeah exactly it's not like look it's not like we're saying this and he looks like
you know like paulo costa yes sometimes i think people confuse hate and and being a critical of a
of a performance or Critical of reality.
Yeah, but also when they go, you're hating on the UFC sometimes
when we talk about pay-per-view numbers or the last pay-per-views.
I'm like, listen, I have nothing to do with the way they promote the fighters,
all that stuff.
If the numbers are low, I literally have nothing to do with that.
I just give my thoughts on what is going on in the landscape of the UFC.
That's not hating.
Pull up a picture of Johnny Hendricks with a beer in his hand with his shirt off.
He's got a picture where his gut is enormous.
It seems to be about 225.
Yeah, between fights you get up to 225.
That you can't do.
You just can't do that.
And he could do that because he was the champ at the time.
It was a while ago.
It was a long time ago.
This day and age, man, the game's evolving so fucking fast. fast as a welterweight man. You better have your shit together. You better have your shit together
I was looking at division. I was scared for people. Yeah, you motherfuckers better be training right now
Yeah, it's it's a serious shark tank and it's a good combination of upcoming new guys and better. Yeah, there's an awesome just
Combination of everybody in there. There's one but there's a better one where you see him from the side.
Yeah, above it.
Right above it with the hat on.
Look at this one.
What?
That's whatever.
Go to the one with the red shirt on.
That's incredible.
After surgery or something.
I don't give a fuck.
What?
Wait a minute.
There's no surgery.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Is that real?
That's real.
How could that be real?
There's no way he ever got that big. Is there?
Come on.
He likes to eat, bro.
What?
He had bicep surgery and said, fuck it.
What year was this, though?
Last week.
2014.
Oh, he had bicep surgery three years ago?
Dude, that'll take you back a year by itself.
That probably...
Oh, his arm is underneath there oh okay it's
about to say haters no he used to get sick i was like what did he eat rocks
they inject fat into his arm is under his stomach you know yeah again i love johnny we're not hating
on johnny no you just there's just no room for anything other than excellence at 170 now.
Or even 185 now.
But also for the sport and where it's evolved that, you know, in the NFL you can't get away with that.
In the NBA you can't get away with that.
The UFC's getting there at a high level where, man, you better have all your bases covered.
Or you're getting lit the fuck up.
Especially at these certain weight classes.
Dude, how about OSP?
Takes fight on 11 days notice was like yeah, I'll do it. Hey
Crazy head kick and he landed a head kick earlier in the fight same kick and we were talking about it, too
We're like look out for his left kick
He's got a brutal left kick and And then boom, right on the button.
Walk away home run.
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy.
It was so powerful.
Look at that.
God, dog, just walked away.
Out cold.
Just out cold.
He's silently on this little bit of a rampage at 205, too.
You know, he has three Von Flu chokes.
Yes, which is crazy, man, because he's not a jiu-jitsu guy.
He's only been five ever.
He's only been five Von flu chokes ever
He's got three of them
Look at that
Bam
Baseball bat against the head
Oh dude
And right on the jaw too
Great win
Yeah
It was a good fight
Up until then
You know
Corey Inch was doing well
The head turn
The jaw turn
Corey was doing well
Especially with his wrestling
Yeah
But then OSP
Just so explosive, man.
Jamie just wants to keep showing it to us. Bam!
Poor Corey, man.
Poor Corey.
Yeah, it's a rough way to go out.
Yeah, the whole card was insane, right?
That main card, though, for me, as far as the surprises, three titles on the line.
Just the best UFC of all time.
And GSP going, like, when he clipped him with that left hand
Going to the ground, ground and pound
Then going to the rear naked choke
And then pulling him to sleep
I gotta be honest, I was surprised Bisping didn't retire with you after the fight
Yeah I think
He's like we're still gonna go
I'm like well what are you gonna do
He's gonna fight somebody else
Who?
Yoel Romero
Yoel's just waiting back there If Bisping beats Yoel Romero.
Yoel's just waiting back there.
If Bisping beats Yoel Romero, they will light England on fire.
Dude.
God damn it.
Have that fight in London.
Yeah, for real. Think about it.
Michael got choked unconscious.
He got dropped with a good left hand, but he didn't get knocked out.
He also won a round. Yeah. He got dropped with a good left hand, but he didn't get knocked out. He also won a round.
He won the second round. But what I'm saying is
he didn't take the kind of damage where he has to be out for a year.
You know? No, hell no.
Hell no. No, he could
fight in March. For sure.
So if they're going to do one in London,
Yoel Romero
and Michael Bisping. I think there's a fight
in March in London as well.
That'd be sick.
Yoel Romero was everywhere with Jorge Masvidal.
Oh, was he really?
They were running into each other.
And there was a video of Masvidal going at it with Michael Bisping.
I saw that.
And everybody gets separated.
But Yoel Romero's right there in the mix.
I'm right here, man.
Was he there?
I'm right here.
Michael Bisping!
Dude, they have to
make that happen. I love you!
I'm right here!
Dude,
just off the fucking...
Yeah, look, they're hanging out together.
I'm right here,
Michael Bisping!
I'll tell you what, if you're Bisping, I love
Bisping. He's as tough as they come.
I don't want to be alone with those two motherfuckers.
Hell no.
Especially after burning the flag or whatever he did.
Oh, what did he do?
Didn't he burn the flag?
Did he burn a Brazilian flag?
He ripped it.
Remember?
Cuban flag.
He ripped it.
He threw it at him during the fight.
I thought he like Dave Chappelle stomped it.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely don't do that.
How badass is fucking Robert Whitaker that he went five rounds with that dude and won a decision?
I know.
And he did it with a fucked up knee.
He got his knee jacked early in the fight.
Robert Whitaker's scary.
No one's trying to fight Whitaker.
Him versus GSP is yikes.
That ain't happening.
Yikes.
You don't need to be scared.
That ain't happening.
Yikes.
No.
Yikes.
You don't need to be scared kick jacare
like yo this dude's so fast he's just he's like nah i'm good on that bro i don't know about that
i'm telling you both former walter waits it's not happening son whitaker's a beast man
he's so fast and explosive and he's young as fuck i think robert's only 26 or 27. How old is Robert Whitaker? If you guessed, take a guess.
I say 27.
26.
That's young as fuck.
That's super.
He's not even in his prime yet.
December 20th.
He's not even in his prime yet.
Dude, he's a beast.
If you had a gun to my head right now, I'd be like, what's next?
What's next?
I'd say Whitaker, Rockhold, and Australia.
That's what you're getting.
And then you get GSP Woodley.
I'd love that.
Dana White, George St. Pierre staying 185 pounds facing Robert Whitaker next.
Holy shit.
Look at my face.
You don't believe it?
I don't think you know shit.
How about that?
I want to call Dana White right now.
Do it.
Tell him.
Dana,
Brandon says you're a liar.
No, I didn't!
No, I never said that!
Totally like little kid shit.
No, I didn't, bro. I was saying.
I believe it when I see it.
That's all I said.
I just said he said a lot of shit.
Like it's the UFC's best year ever.
Maybe he knows some shit we don't know.
Yeah, well that's crazy talk. But I don't have to be
the UFC accountant to just run through some
numbers in my old brain brain here
that might have some brain trauma and go,
I don't think so. There's some awesome
things that happened. Some awesome
fights for sure. There's one
awesome money makingmaking fight.
Yeah, but I'm saying there's been...
Well, if you just want to look at the business overall, yes.
No, for pay-per-view sales, yes.
But for people like you and I that are just fans, it's been one of the best years ever.
God, really?
Yeah.
That's extreme, Joe.
Mighty Mouse beating the title and then doing it the way he did. Slamming that dude and getting a flying armbar.
That was cool.
Establishing dominance like that.
Amanda Nunes, Merc and Ronda Rousing.
Was that this year?
No, that was last year.
That was last December.
I believe it was in January.
It's this year, bro.
No, it was last year.
Am I going crazy?
I'm pretty sure it was last December.
You might be right.
Because this year they haven't had Conor, Ronda, Brock.
They haven't had their heavyweights.
It was December 29th.
Bam!
Very, very close.
Yeah, I guess that's not this year.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? It's been
a down year as far as...
There's been some fun matchups if your ball's deep into
MMA like we are, but as far as just like
a great year? No.
Some of those pay-per-views, I was like, god damn, or the fight
nights, like come on, man. I think
it was just a transitional period, and again, it's
not the UFC's fault. With the talent
too, it just wasn't timing up right. But then
you get certain cards like this,
where they hit it out the fucking park.
Yeah, this one was so epic.
So Cody and Dominic Cruz,
was Cody and Dominic Cruz this year or last year?
Cody, Dominic Cruz was this year.
Yeah.
So there's that.
Cody, Dominic Cruz is a big fight.
Yeah, Whitaker.
Especially for fans.
What about 55?
Now it's all stalled out.
Because with Khabib on the sidelines, Tony Ferguson being the interim champ.
He had to wait forever.
I mean, do we even know if Khabib is going to fight again?
He's fighting Barboza December 30th.
That is definitely happening.
That's happening.
They said no more tiramisu, sir.
You're fighting December 30th.
Yeah, Daniel Cormier said he has a real nutritionist now.
What the?
How the fuck does that happen?
Oh, do you?
You rank number one in the world?
Did you get a nutritionist?
Undefeated.
Undefeated.
Smashing everybody.
Smashing.
And you almost died from making weight.
And someone was like, man, you know what we should do?
Twice.
Almost died twice.
You keep missing weight, bro.
No, you could be the best in the world.
We should hire a nutritionist.
It's not a bad idea.
Fire everyone around you, Khabib, if you're listening.
He's a devout Muslim.
So anytime it's anywhere near Ramadan.
Can't fight.
Well, some guys pulled it out.
Bilal Muhammad did.
Yeah, he did.
And he did it by organizing his camp.
He organized all of his training.
So all of his training was done after dark.
Because they're fast all during the day, right?
And you can eat once it's sundown.
Yeah.
I think, I don't even know if you're allowed to drink water.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah.
But you just go crazy once the sun goes down.
When the sun's down.
From sunrise to sunset, you go nuts.
Yeah.
So I think what he did was just alter his training and train at night, I guess.
Hey, Khabib, how bad do you want it?
Well, it's just such a crazy rule.
If God was around, would he really decide?
I guess the idea is that by recognizing that you're doing something difficult that you don't want to do,
you're like, in this religious tradition, you're honoring him.
Yeah, I don't think the guy gives a fuck about your internal belt in the UFC.
You might.
But either way, Khabib gets your shit together so he can watch you fight.
Yes.
You broke my heart when he pulled out of the Tony Ferguson fight.
That broke my heart, too.
I was so mad.
The day of the weigh-ins.
I was so mad.
There's no way.
I know.
I'm never upset.
Was it the day before the weigh-ins? Was was so mad. There's no way. I know. I'm never upset. Was it the day before the weigh-ins?
Was it the day of or day before?
Very close.
Within a day or two.
Very close.
Whatever it was.
I feel like it was the day of.
It was so frustrating.
Yeah, he can't say anything now.
He's got to just be completely quiet until he fights and wins.
Yeah.
And Barboza, you know, it's a tough fight for him because Barboza is the nastiest stand-up
in the game, especially at division.
But it's a winnable fight for Khabib.
He gets a hold of you.
You're going for a ride.
Yeah.
If he gets a hold of you, he can wrestle fuck you like no one else.
Khabib-Tony, that's the fight.
Woo!
Isn't it?
But obviously you got Tony Conner.
I think it happens in March.
When he was holding Michael Johnson down, helpless,
and just beating the shit out of him, he was helpless.
When have you ever seen anybody be able to do that? was talking to him and goes just give up i need this
i need this just just stop now i don't want to do this whooping his ass and just beating the
shit out of him i mean complete total control of him how he's beating the shit out of him
what's crazy about it is like there's at that level it's very rare that that can happen
at that level where someone is so much better that the other person is just completely tied up.
There you go.
They're on the card, too.
Look at that card, man.
The eagle.
Hold up.
They don't have a main event.
Carlos Condit returning against Neil Magny.
Come on, kids.
Oh, shit.
Magny.
They are throwing Magny just to the killers.
I like how they say to be determined for the main event.
Because they're banking on Conor?
Well, who knows?
Who knows?
Dominic Cruz versus Rivera is interesting.
Hell yeah.
Cavillo versus Carlos Barza is very interesting.
Cavillo, your next star in the women's division.
Cynthia Cavillo.
Dude, you're going over one.
She's badass.
You got fucking Roundtree versus Saki.
Go Con.
That's interesting.
The UFC's tweet pissed me off with that fight.
Go Con Saki's a fucking monster.
He's a monster.
And when they announced it, they put stand.and.bang.
Ew.
I was like, ah, who's running this?
What 14-year-old from Reddit's running this thing?
Ew.
I read that and went, what?
Fuck, man.
Do better.
And how about Kamaru Usman versusus Meek Usman's the guy
Everyone's scared of
So Usman won the fight too
Cool
Usman's another one
At 170
That's terrifying
Yes
He easily could be
A world champion
The Nigerian nightmare
He's a nightmare
Christian Akoya
Shout out
And this fucking dude
Emil Meek is a beast
He looks like a beast
He's a scary fuck too man
It's all very interesting
No one wants to fight Usman They tried offering Big fights And Meek was the only guy Who'd take it He's like I'll too, man. It's all very interesting. No one wants to fight Usman.
They tried offering big fights, and Meek was the only guy to take it.
He's like, I'll fight him.
Now, is Meek a straight fucking Viking?
What's going on there?
He's full on Viking genes.
Tell you what, with that body, he's challenging our boy, the Brazilian Dime.
He smashed Toquino.
He fought Usman with Parhares and just knocked him unconscious.
That's right.
That's how he got into the UFC.
He's a beast, man. That's a real good fight. But I just don him unconscious. That's right. That's how he got into the UFC. He's a beast, man.
That's a real good fight.
But I just don't know.
I don't know if Emil Meek is going to be fast enough to keep Usman.
Oh, no one wants to fight Usman.
No, he's a nightmare to deal with.
He's the scariest number 12 ranked guy in the world.
How about Usman versus Darren Till?
Jesus!
See, I'm Usman Colby.
Colby Till is what I'd like.
I'd like Usman versus anybody.
I'd like to see Usman fight for the title.
I'd like to see him fight anybody.
Right now?
Yep.
I think he's the most underrated guy maybe in every division.
That's what I think.
That might be fair.
I don't know if I'd want to see him fight for the title right now. Who did he fight?
Who was his last fight?
Click on that thing. He's just destroying dudes. Who did he fight? Who was his last fight? Click on that thing.
He's just destroying dudes.
Yeah, destroying dudes.
What was his last fight?
Sergio Moraes.
Oh, yeah.
Sergio Moraes is a jiu-jitsu guy.
Yo, he'd put the smash on him.
Moraes is a badass jiu-jitsu player.
He's the first guy that tapped Krohn.
When Krohn got his black belt.
He also fucking gave Neil Magny that horrible triangle in Brazil.
Yeah, that's right.
Magny and Jiu-Jitsu do not go together.
And especially that guy's Jiu-Jitsu.
When he fought in the finals, when Sergio fought in the finals of the Ultimate Fighter,
it was in Brazil, he goes,
My opponent has just as much of a chance of getting me pregnant as he does submitting me.
Jesus Christ.
That's a great line.
He was fighting Cesar Ferreira.
Oh, who's a monster, too.
Yeah, yeah.
Nate's fighting him.
Nate, yeah, I was going to say that.
Nate McCart.
Yeah.
Brian was at AK jacking off the boys at AK.
How many guys did he jack off?
I know Luke Rockwell gave him a facial for the most part.
So Luke's over there?
In DC, too.
Yeah, Luke's there.
And Callan was saying, what were we talking about?
I was thinking about Callan jacking dudes off.
How many guys he jacked off at AKA?
No.
Oh, he saw Nate.
Nate's training at AKA now.
Mark White is?
Yes.
No shit.
Yeah, he's doing a lot of his camp there.
That's interesting.
How much have you been fighting since he was 12?
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Right?
Think about how many wars that guy's been in.
Remember his fight with Woodley in Strikeforce? We knocked him out with a Mortal Kombat combination. A, B, A, B, left, right? Think about how many wars that guy's been in. Remember his fight with Woodley in Strikeforce?
We knocked him out with a Mortal Kombat combination.
A, B, A, B, left, right.
See if you find Nate Marquardt KO's Tyron Woodley.
Nate became world champion.
People forget he was multi-time Pankrus champion,
but that was like his first real,
not that Pankrus wasn't real,
but that was his first huge belt in Strikeforce.
Yeah, super talented guy. Super young with an old elbow boom i mean come on man you know what's crazy about that that
campy is working this weird like taekwondo guy and they're just doing elbows and we'd make fun
of him he'd be in the corner just doing like these weird fucking motions like okay nate good luck
with that meanwhile that's what he is meanwhile Meanwhile. Dude, elbows. I mean, you got to think. How about Bisbee on the bottom of those elbows?
Phenomenal.
The GSP lit his face up.
Tore it up.
Caught him up bad.
He was bleeding badly.
Like, he was having a hard time seeing.
You could see it on his forehead.
He was caught on the bridge of his nose.
It's good.
Elbows are like some of the most underutilized weapons.
You got to think of the surface area.
You can get a hard strike in very close quarters with elbows.
Like when someone's very good with it.
You remember when Crow Cop fought Gonzaga?
Oh, my God.
Got on top of him and just opened him up like he hit him with an axe.
My word, man.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Man.
Like watching good Muay Thai, too.
Watching people that are good at elbows and smash and slash elbows.
Elbows are tough because you can't really train elbows.
Oh, that was the other fight.
Did you see the fight on the fight pass undercard?
I don't watch fight pass.
Faraz Zahabi's brother?
No.
I heard Faraz Zahabi's brother just got dealt.
Dude.
Is it bad?
I didn't see it.
Dude, it was bad, and i saw it coming because he was
giving up the spin i saw him like he's gonna spin and he spun and hit him with a spinning elbow on
the jaw no snapped his head around like like you've never seen what's for us like unconscious
fully unconscious for five ten minutes fully unconscious damn then like k frosh astral
traveling you had a huge
main event you gotta get ready for, my man. Let's get back
in there. This brother. Let's go ahead and shake that
off. And it was a really good fight
and his brother was putting a tremendous amount of pressure
on the other guy. God damn it, I forget
his name. Do you not have the highlight, Jamie?
It's gonna be tough with the fight pass, huh?
It's out there. What is
Homeboy's name?
Watch Ricardo Ramos? It's out there. I found it. What is Homeboy's name? Watch Ricardo Ramos.
Is that it?
It's.
The headline on that was real weird.
I'm just going to pull up the video.
Let me see if this is it.
Yeah, that's it.
Right here.
Boom.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Damn.
He goes stiff.
Oh, that's a broken jaw.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Show that again.
It's a homos is how you say it.
Oh, so he lands it once behind the air.
Watch this one.
And then, boom.
Show that again from the very beginning.
Again, keep the volume up.
Go to the very beginning.
It has to be so hard if you're for us.
Yeah, man.
It lands here behind the air.
Right there.
I said, Hamas is thinking about spinning.
That's when he did it.
Boom.
God damn.
Two in a row.
I think he stunned him with the first one.
And then I think the second one, just look at his face.
Dude, his jaw was distorted.
His jaw was fucked.
Yeah, just got smashed.
Nothing worse.
That's a perfect example, though, of how good elbows are.
If someone gets really good at spinning elbows.
You ever see Gaston Bolano's fight?
No.
You're also not going to break your elbow.
Right.
You can smash people in the face.
Sometimes guys have chunks of shit, though, floating around their elbow.
Yeah, splinters. Like Anderson of shit though floating around their elbow. Yeah. Like splinters.
Like Anderson had some stuff removed from his
elbow. And Jacare did.
Jacare had some stuff. He had so much stuff
removed from his elbow that it like filled a cup.
Like he put pictures of it online. Like bones or fluid.
Like chips. I've actually
drained my elbow like a motherfucker.
I just put a needle in it and just keep draining it.
I just suck and pus out of it. Yeah if you watch my
Toshare fight. Literally I'm in the back of the stage, like, draining it because it kept filling up.
Right before the fight?
Yeah, because I was worried that, because he was a wrestler.
I was like, if he takes it down, I'm going to throw some elbows.
Right.
And I'm like, I got this fucking baseball pad here.
I got to drain it.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Was it painful or was it just swelling?
No, it was just swelling.
That's weird.
It was just stupid.
It's like I had a big titty on my arm.
I got a tit on my arm.
And we just kept draining it.
Do you find the pictures of Jacare's debris that was in his elbow?
Because when, I think I showed it to you before.
When we looked at it, we were like, what the fuck?
Like that was in his elbow?
Like it's like a cup of it on the operating table.
Like there it is.
Oh my God. Yeah. That's all the years of jiu-jitsu, huh? Just it on the operating table. Like, there it is. Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's all the years of jiu-jitsu, huh?
Just grinding on people's face.
I think it's probably not tapping.
And then it's probably sparring.
You know, you've got to think he's doing a lot of kickboxing sparring.
Click on that other one.
Is that a size comparison?
Oh, someone else.
Go back to his again so we can stare at what was inside his fucking elbow.
That's crazy.
Look, chunks.
It looks like corn.
It looks like teeth.
Yeah.
Some of it is probably cartilage.
Some of it's probably bone.
A lot of people are saying, you know, Anderson Silva has this fight against Kelvin, but they're like, Anderson GSP.
I feel like that ship sailed, though.
Well, I'll tell you what.
If Anderson lights up Kelvinvin gastelum it's
not like highlight knockout yeah flying knee ko at 85 like he hit bisping remember when he hit
bisping with that flying knee and then bisping came back and won yeah anderson is that was crazy
right like anderson thought it was over walked away with his arms up in the air it's a weird
fight and he he hit him when bisping was calling for his mouthpiece. Bisping was like, no, I need my mouthpiece.
Boom.
Fly in knee to the jaw.
That's on Bisping.
You got to know.
Yep.
That's on Bisping.
How about he comes back and wins the next round?
I know.
Tough as shit.
There it is.
Fucking British zombie.
See, Anderson, if Anderson wins in a big way, look at that.
Cracking.
Michael Bisping cracking Anderson Silva.
That was crazy, too, when he knocked Anderson down.
Hell, yeah.
Everybody was like, oh.
That's one of the greatest fights in middleweight history.
Don't sleep on him.
That's what made the Bisping kind of legend there.
Yeah, it was a big fight, man.
Huge fight.
That was a big deal, you know?
I mean, look at that.
Boom.
Dude, but also, Anderson's so much taller than Kelvin.
Kelvin's issue at 80, 85 is size.
Yeah, but I'll tell you what.
Kelvin has stupid hand speed, man, and beautiful combinations.
The way he fucked up Vitor.
Like, dude, who's fucked up Vitor like that stand-in before?
Yeah, I mean, Vitor's old as fuck.
You're right.
Old, been through wars, been beat up.
But then look what?
Post-Golden Snitch.
Golden Snitch was like, Vitor, you're good.
Golden Snitch changed the future of Vitor you're good. Golden Snitch changed.
Much going to drain your body.
Changed the future of Vitor Belfort.
Changed the future of everybody.
Yeah.
But even before the Golden Snitch, just the whole getting rid of the testosterone replacement
therapy was before.
For sure.
But think about when Kelvin, again, I love Kelvin.
I think he's actually a natural 170.
I think he's going to be better at 70.
Because look, when he went against a guy like Weidman, who's an upper echelon 85er, it's
just a different level, man.
And Weidman's ground game.
When they're bigger and just as fast and technical, it doesn't work like that.
And Weidman has a crushing top game.
Phenomenal grappling game.
Yeah, especially his top game.
His ground game from the bottom got exposed a little bit in the Rockhold fight.
It also shows you how good Rockhold's top game is.
Because Rockhold is a fucking monster when he gets
on top of guys. Rockhold's a black belt. Rockhold's a
black belt on the ground. Top, bottom, super
legit. Right, but so is Weidman.
Weidman's a black belt on the ground as well. I just
think his bottom game is not
like, this top game is insane.
He gets on top of you like exactly
the way he did Calvin.
He gets that choke down on you that head and arms you're fucked
But he just doesn't have the ability to get up or to be very good
Defensively off of his back the way some other guys do know bottoms tough man be really really good
You'd be such a high level such a high look to be effective and like be a threat down there
Yeah, yeah, and Brock hold is also used to sparring with Kane and used to sparring with DC all the time.
He's used to constantly grappling guys way bigger, way heavier, way stronger.
So he's so fucking strong.
His top game's so strong.
He's a monster.
When he got David Branch down and he's on top of him.
Oh, my God.
He clamps those legs together.
You're like, oh, he's fucked.
He's not getting up.
Branch is a Henzo John Donahue black belt, too.
He made him look kind of silly.
He smashed him. Once he got to the ground just smashed him so like him versus GSP would be crazy
Lock rock old just be known yeah, Luke Rockhold GSP. Oh, yeah, him versus to be fucking crazy
Are you saying not an instant silver GSP? No? I'm saying
Anderson Silva GSP would be interesting lock Rockhold versus GSP
How dare you?
No, crazy.
Crazy if you're a Rockhold fan.
You think Rockhold's smashing?
That ain't a fight.
Oh, my God.
Tell me what you think would happen.
Hulk smash?
Yeah, whatever you want.
GSP's just too small for him.
Especially if he has cardio issues, Rockhold can go, too.
Watch his fights, you know, his Strikeforce Day fights with Jacare and Tim Kennedy.
He can go.
That boy can move.
Yeah. That's a. That boy can move.
Yeah.
That's a bad idea for GSP.
I know, but I'd still pay to see it.
Hell yeah, I'd pay to see it.
I want to see.
I'm interested in seeing GSP against a real top-level middleweight other than Michael Bisping.
Are you?
I'm not.
I'd rather see him at 70.
I do, too.
I want to see him at 72.
But I'd also like to see.
I mean, I'd like to see if we're right about him carrying that extra weight.
I'd like to see if we're right. I mean, extra weight. I'd like to see if we're right.
I mean, if I was in his corner, I wouldn't say that.
If I was in his corner, I'd say, look, we're going to go to 170,
and we're going to spike Tyron Woodley's punch.
For Ross, Freddie Roach, like, no, middleweight's really not where we should be at.
Yeah, I would tell him at 170, if you go down to 170,
you fight the title eliminator fight against Colby Covington or someone who's like an up-and-coming guy at 170.
Not fight Woodley right away?
I don't think Woodley's going to fight right away.
I think Woodley's going to be out for a while, if I had to guess.
Then you do an interim belt?
I mean, I don't know what the real extent of his shoulder is, but I've heard it's not good.
He's commenting on it a little bit, yeah.
Yeah, I've heard the same.
It's not good.
And he's starting to do some kind of outside the ring stuff.
He has a show on TMZ.
He has a podcast.
He's in movies.
All that stuff's great, but I would like to see him.
Is it?
Not really.
Not if you're trying to be the best in the world.
Right.
I don't believe in this day and age of mixed martial arts you can do that and still be the best of the best.
Is he able to train at all right now?
Do you know?
I don't know.
He looks in shape. It's, you know, woodly, so he takes care of business.
Right.
So he's probably doing something.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
But if his shoulder's fucked up, he's probably not doing any real intense grappling or anything
where he's got to really swing his arms around.
Your boy Deceit's fighting Ozdemir, right?
Ooh.
Are you crunk for that fight?
Ooh.
Ozdemir's scary.
Yeah. Ozdemir's scary. Yeah.
He's been murking dudes nonstop.
He fucks you up.
He gets you in a clinch and he lands bombs.
It's his hands, huh?
He's got giant hands, dude.
Shake his hands like shaking his table.
Yeah.
How long do you think that fight is on its feet for?
30 seconds at the most.
Over under 30 seconds?
Does DC come out in a singlet or how's this work?
You know what I'm saying? He's going to give him his fucking mile high privileges. Yeah, man. 30 seconds? Does DC come out in a singlet or how's this work?
You know what I'm saying?
He's going to give him his fucking mile high privileges.
Yeah, man.
He's going airborne.
Yeah.
He's going airborne.
DC's a monster.
Yeah.
I mean, people forget, but watch what he did to Rumble.
You know?
The man handles dudes.
DC's a tremendous, tremendous wrestler.
Did DC say anything to you about Kane?
Kane's starting to train.
Yeah, Kane wants to get back in it, you know, but he's had back surgery.
And it's pretty significant injuries, knee surgery, back surgery, shoulder surgery.
He's had a lot of shit wrong.
So he's trying to make sure that everything goes the right way. Meanwhile, Francis Ganoth in Vegas just at the fucking UFC lab,
just getting filled with whatever the fuck they're giving him.
All right, Kane, come back to that.
What do you think they're testing him with?
Like what kind of shit are they doing to him at the UFC lab?
If the UFC is smart, they'd be like, this is our guy.
And Dana said this.
Dana said he might be the future.
Wolf.
I mean.
Tell you what, man.
Look, he's got to fight Alistair motherfucking Overeem. And you can never gotta fight Alistair Motherfucking Overeem
And you can never sleep
On Alistair Overeem
No Alistair's a way
The most decorated
Striking fighter
In the UFC
If they start
If they start standing
In front of each other
And Ngannou starts moving forward
And he doesn't protect
That left leg
And Alistair starts
Slamming meat
Into that left leg
No you're gone
Yeah
Alistair's way more technical
Way more technical
But the thing about Alistair is Alistair's fucking leg kicks are some of the most underrated
aspect of his game.
So is his grappling, though.
His grappling's outstanding.
People always forget how good his grappling is.
It's just he can't take a shot the way some of these guys can.
How dare they take a picture of Uber Ream.
That ain't Uber Ream.
No, Uber Ream now runs backwards and shit when you throw right hands.
It's working, but-
That's the Brock Lester days.
Yeah, that's Uber.
That ain't real.
That ain't real.
That ain't the guy he's fighting.
Might as well show a picture of Wolverine up there.
That's not him.
No, I don't think so.
That's a photo shoot.
Okay, go to his last fight.
Who did Alistair fight?
JDS, right? Knocked him out? No, he had one more fight. Who did Alistair fight? JDS, right?
Knocked him out?
No, he had one more fight since then at least.
JDS, I think he knocked out.
Mark Hunt?
Is it when he marked Mark Hunt?
Yes, that's who it was.
He knocked out JDS before he fought for the title.
That's right.
Yeah, so him versus Mark Hunt, weigh-ins.
Is that the weigh-ins?
Yeah, see, that's real.
That's the smooth look, yeah.
Yeah.
He's still jacked, still a great athlete.
Hell yeah, but...
But he's not steamrolling people the way he used to steamroll people.
He flatlined Mark Hunt, though.
Dude, he did flatline him with that knee.
But remember when he fought Todd Duffy in Japan?
That was full Uber Eam, right?
Uber Eam was also...
Oh, my God.
The Brock Lesnar fight's the best.
Yeah, look at that knee.
That's insane.
That is a perfect placement.
And he's got some of the best knees in the fucking business, man.
He's so talented, man.
Now that you saw it in the Golden Snitch,
you're like, now you've got to fight for reals now?
He's using his technique.
He's being a lot more smarter.
Look at that again.
Watch this.
Boom.
How dare you flatline Mark Hunt, you son of a bitch.
That is a full flatline, too.
I'm a Mark Hunt fan.
Yeah, me too, man.
I think he's done, though, since they pulled him off that card.
Even if he flies out here and does the test Dana wanted him to do?
Well, he's got to do it now, but they offered it to him before,
and apparently he said no.
I don't know what the story is, though.
I know he has one story, and he has a story that he thinks involves the lawsuit that he put on the UFC after the Brock Lesnar fight.
Because he says that they knew that Brock Lesnar was on steroids and that they made him fight.
That's his lawsuit.
But the only defense of that is, and Dana said this in his statement, he goes, hold up, we had him headline two cards.
And we paid him $1.67 million.
Since then.
Since then for one fight. He goes, if the lawsuit was an issue, why the fuck would we
do all this? Also yanking him off a card. This is crazy. I'm defending Dana here for
a fighter, but also yanking him off a card for a pay-per-view in Australia hurts the
UFC's business model.
Yes.
So they would, they're also protecting their ass because it's on record that he says he's having brain
issues.
Yes.
And then they put him in a main event and it's an even bigger deal.
Then you're really going to sue the fuck out of him.
Yeah.
And he said it's only when he has a couple of drinks.
That's when he starts slurring his words.
Preach, bro.
He didn't say it the right way.
No.
If you look at that interview, it really wasn't based off that.
It kind of got a context, but Mark Hunt does have to own own up he did say that say it and he said it in an
interview but he thinks they pulled him off the car because of the lawsuit I
don't think so it doesn't make sense to you see he's like yeah cuz we're doomed
verse I forget the ice fighting it isn't a that's not a big papery for Australia
it's not a big card mark hunt is a huge fucking draw in Australia it was
designed to have him fight on that card.
Yeah, he's fighting Marcin Tibura,
who's a striker. So Verdum's gonna
most likely take that guy to the ground
and, you know...
Your boy Walt Harris finally fought again after getting
fucking... But did you see the fight?
Yeah, I did, man. And you guys were like,
I don't think he's a bad dude. He blatantly
meant to kick that dude in the face, right?
We're on the same page here. Well, once we watched it again, we listened to the part where the referee says, stop, stop.
And he's right in front of him.
He still throws the kick.
He's holding him like this.
And he throws that giant leg.
He says he got caught up in the whole thing and it's a fight.
And I believe him.
Nah, come on.
But look, that means you got caught up and you decided to kick that guy anyway.
Like you couldn't pull it back in time.
Well, whether you're caught up or not, it's a cheap shot
when I come from.
He didn't pull it back in time.
No, you kicked the dude in the face
while the ref was between you.
Right, you wanted to hit him.
Yeah, that's a cheap shot.
And you didn't pull it.
Yeah, it's not good.
100%.
No, it's just a cheap shot.
I don't think Walters is a bad dude.
But he did something bad.
Yeah, he did something bad.
You fucked up.
Whatever.
He fucked up.
Let's not crucify the guy.
Yeah, it was super dirty.
And at the end of the fight,
like when that dude got
illegally kicked in the ear, that was literally nothing.
Yes.
You know?
But you have to think about what happened before that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Like, what happened?
He got poked in the eye.
Oh, no, he got hit in the nuts.
He thought he got hit in the nuts.
He moved away.
And Walt came after him, threw a punch.
The referee said stop.
And then he threw the head kick and caught him with
the head kick. Pretty clean. Pretty clean.
Was it enough to stop the fight?
No. It was like a slap to the face
more than it was. It's still
a heavyweight throwing that 17
size shoe he wears at your face.
No bueno. He's enormous.
Yeah, but it was a hard shot.
And then he had some time
to recover and then he beat the shit out of him again,
and then hit him with the illegal shot.
Then they asked him, the doctor talked to him.
What's his name, Godbeer?
Oh, Godbeer.
Godbeer.
Yeah, and Godbeer said he couldn't go on.
But, I mean, that's fair.
I mean, he got kicked in the face.
Like you said, I don't think Walt Hare's a bad dude, but he did a cheap thing.
I'm conflating the two fights.
Yeah. I'm conflating the two fights. I'm conflating that
with the
Curtis Blades fight.
I didn't see the Curtis Blades fight. Okay, that's where I
fucked up. Because the Curtis Blades fight
was a cleaner result,
but also an illegal shot.
Curtis was beating the shit out of this dude.
This was Olenek.
And Olenek was the guy who beat...
Walt Harris and Godbeer.
I got confused.
The Godbeer-Walt Harris thing did not look like it was enough to stop the fight.
No, but it was a cheap shot. But it was a cheap shot.
And if Godbeer was like, yeah, I'm fucked up.
I can't go on.
Then he won the fight.
I agree.
Which is the correct decision.
The other fight, which is where I fucked up, was Blades and Olenek.
Blades is beating the shit out of Olenek.
And then he went to throw a shot that would have been an illegal shot
but he didn't really hit him
he just toe'd his ear
he hit his ear with his toe
but the referee saw that there was contact
so he said look I have to stop it
because it was an illegal shot and it was contact
and he brought the doctor in and Ole Nick was done
but he was done from the beating that he took before that
so Blades won
oh good
but it was like super confusing for Curtis he thought he was done from the beating that he took before that. So Blades won. Oh, good. Yeah. That's fair.
But it was like super confusing for Curtis.
He thought he was getting disqualified.
We had to calm him down.
And he had beat the shit out of the dude before that.
And you could really tell that the toe just barely touched him.
Like flicked his ear.
That Curtis Blades, he trains with all my guys back in Denver.
Everyone's, I mean, they're saying he's the next big thing.
Everyone's super high on him.
If he keeps going.
If he keeps going, he keeps getting better. You see him better in every fight. Yeah. I mean, his striking has a ways to go. But. He could be. Everyone's super high on him. If he keeps going. If he keeps going, he keeps getting better.
You see him better in every fight.
Yeah, I mean, his striking has a ways to go, but they're like, dude, last year he had none.
And this year, it's getting better and better and better.
Yeah, he got a leg kick quite a bit by that big Russian dude.
That was the same Russian who knocked Travis out?
Is that him?
He strangled Travis.
Yeah.
The only Nick.
Yeah, that motherfucker does just not go away.
Did he strangle Travis?
Yeah.
Or did he knock him out?
He got him on like a sideways rear naked choke, remember?
Oh, that's right.
He's just a fucking...
Neck cranker.
He's the guy that won
from Ezekiel
from while he was mounted.
That's right.
He let the dude mount him
and sunk the Ezekiel in on him.
I guess that's his shit too.
Like he's done to multiple people.
He looks so goddamn strong,
I'll tell you that, man.
He looks scary.
When he gets a hold of people,
it's like, jeez.
His walkout music,
it's like, relax, man. Do you hate fans? Russian. man. He looks scary. When he gets a hold of people, it's like, jeez. His walkout music. It's like, relax, man.
Do you hate fans?
Russian.
Russian.
Religious music.
Did Fedor select your walkout music?
It's not working, man.
Have you seen that documentary yet?
Icarus?
We talked about this, right?
Talked a little bit about it.
Did you see it?
No.
Dude, you got to watch it.
I know.
We can't keep talking.
You'll go crazy. You know what the problem is? Next time I see you see it? No. Dude, you got to watch it. I know. We can't keep talking. You'll go crazy.
You know what the problem is?
Next time I see you, you have to watch this.
I have to watch it.
You know what the problem is?
Give me an assignment, too, to make it fair.
All right.
The problem is, like, I listened to the homeboy who came on and talked about it, and then
we've talked about it so much.
I feel like I'm good.
Yeah, but when you see it.
Like, if you gave me a breakdown of the first season of Narcos And we talk about it all the time
I'm not gonna
I got it
Spoiler alert
You're definitely right
But when you see it
The visual
Yeah
The way it's done
He did an amazing job
Putting the movie together
The way it's done
It's like shows you where the building was
Where they hid the urine
How they got the urine passed through the wall
They had a fucking hole in the wall
How they opened up the jars
They show the scratches on the jars And it's wall. They had a fucking hole in the wall. How they opened up the jars, they show the scratches on the jars.
And it's like, dude, they robbed the Olympics.
They did the Olympics in Russia, and they robbed it.
They had a record number, 13 golds, and they were just all on steroids.
Here's my question for that.
So when I see that stuff, obviously it's not happening just in the Olympics.
What's going on right now
in big professional sports? Because think how much
money is in the NFL, NBA,
UFC, boxing.
Who's in the know? I would love to just be
a golden snitch.
You'd have to get the kind of, and this is where the UFC
should be credited, because you'd have to get the kind of access
the UFC has, and they've
given to Nowitzki and
the UFC and USADA.
Like what they do is unprecedented in sports.
What they do isn't like any other sport where they just, you're treated as if you're in
an Olympic program, like where they could just show up at your house at any moment.
Your entire career.
Yeah, your entire career.
You have to give your whereabouts everywhere you are all day, wherever you're going to
be.
It's exhausting.
Oh my God.
It's expensive too.
Oh my God.
Like even what's named Holdsworth.
The UFC doesn't have to do this.
No, they don't.
No one's asked them to do this.
I don't know if it's the best choice, but.
I don't think it is.
Yeah.
In today's climate and environment, I'm not advocating cheating.
I don't think you should cheat.
You guys have a little fun, though.
You know, like, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
What are we doing here?
What are we doing?
Let Jon Jones fight. Hasush, shake, free Jon.
I don't know about all that.
You want to know the craziest
fucking rumor that I heard
about the Jon Jones thing? Please, sir.
And I can't tell you who told me this.
This is the craziest one.
Yes. The stuff
that he tested
positive for. And this doesn he tested positive for.
And this doesn't make any sense.
And people are saying that there's so many months out. The stuff that he tasted positive when he was tested here and tested there.
The stuff that he tested positive takes a long time to get out of your system, right?
Yeah.
That he was tested positive.
You know where else that stuff, you find it?
You find it in creatine.
When they get creatine, sometimes from China, it's tainted with steroids.
They use that creatine to cut cocaine.
So he's doing the coca-cola.
There's one of the things that they cut some cocaine with is creatine because it looks like cocaine.
God, so he might have gotten mixed up with a bad batch.
If he was partying.
Monohydrate cocaine.
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-partying.
Johnny, you want to do a bump?
It's really good stuff.
Hey, man, I can't test positive for anything.
It's just coke, bro.
Be out of your system tomorrow, bro.
Woo!
Woo!
Damn, I actually feel pretty swole, too.
Pitbull song comes on the radio.
Start dancing.
Pitbull song.
Just forget about all your worries.
Yeah, forget it.
The biggest fight of your life.
Forget about it all.
Let it go.
That would make sense.
He had a birthday 10 days out before the UFC fight.
Oh, what are we doing?
It's like the world wants him to be a fuck up.
A birthday?
Of course you can do a couple bumps on your birthday.
It's my birthday.
You're the world champ.
John, last time you fucked him up three weeks out when you did coke.
Come on, man.
Bro, you barely trained.
Oh my God.
If that's the case,
just stop and think about it for a moment.
If it was that stuff.
That's best case scenario, Joe.
Oh yeah, that's best case scenario.
If it's cocaÃna and we can track
and we can, oh, you can't track that.
You're a dealer.
Your dealer's going, yo, Holmes,
let me come in and talk to you about where I get my shit. Yeah, he's in Columbia, Holmes. You guys want to go down there, you can't track that. Your dealer's going, yo, Holmes, let me come in and talk to you about where I get my shit.
Yeah, he's in Columbia, Holmes.
You guys want to go down there.
You're welcome.
Going stitches down there.
We'll take you in the propeller plane, bro.
We travel across the border.
We got to go low.
Go do that, Nabitsky.
How bad do you want to catch this guy?
Well, they don't want to.
They're not in the business of drug enforcement.
They don't want to catch that guy at all.
And the guy's not going to admit.
He's not going to give you a baggie of his shit.
Sir, is this the plot of Narcos 4?
Did John just write Narcos 4 for us?
John didn't tell me this.
No, I'm just saying, yeah.
Somebody told me this as a rumor, which sounds crazy.
But then Red Band was the one who called the dick pills last time.
Red Band said that if he's taking dick pills, like if the guy does coke, he tested positive for coke.
And Red Band was like, if he does dick pills,
or if he does coke, he's probably doing dick pills.
And I was like, what?
And so Red Band brought a bunch of them in.
He's like, do you think anyone knows what's in these things?
It's true.
He's like, they have steroids and all of it.
He goes, I've taken Cialis.
He goes, and I've taken this stuff.
He goes, this stuff's way crazier than Cialis.
Really?
Yes.
He says it's madness.
Don't talk about that. He says you want to fuck like a that like a wild animal really said your dick is hard as a rock
Was the best promo for dick pills ever it seems like but they're gas station dick pills that you're getting from some fucking third-world country
if you're a world-class athlete probably shouldn't be doing that shit a
Bucket that they used to have pain in yes hundred percent. I
mean
Rhino 7000?
Yes. Red Band.
Dude, I'd be so scared to take that shit.
Brian won't take them anymore and Brian takes
everything. And he won't take Rhino 7000?
Remember when they used to have that live cereal
commercial? Mike, you won't eat it. He
hates everything. Brian's the opposite of that.
Brian will take
whatever you give him. He's like, let's go.
Fuck it. Let's see what the rhino pills do
He called it
He did but my skeptical hippo eyes there
Is because again we're constantly looking
And there's smart people around John
So with this stuff yeah there's Clomid in there
But Clomid is a masking agent
There's a lot of masking agents
This wasn't Clomid
I thought they found Clomid in this shit
Oh the old one
The new one
The new one was what was it called
Some Russian zebra steroid
Tornadol
Tornadol
Ain't that a bitch though
If you're John you're doing a couple of devil's dandruff
And just whatever it's your birthday
If that's the case but they have found the Clomid
They did find it in those dick pills
I mean it was in there.
It is, but also... That makes sense, though, wouldn't it?
Like, it's a... It does.
Estrogen inhibitor? 100%.
But it's also for something else.
It's also if you've been running, you know,
gear, and you take Clomid
to recoup things. So, it's in there,
and like I said, you have a lot of smart people around you
where when the public hears dick pills,
like, oh, it's not bad.
Come on.
Eat a Conoco.
It's all good, baby.
Here, go fight again.
So then now, if it's cocaine, we're not looking at four years.
Well, you've got to prove that it's cocaine.
First of all, this is pure speculation on my part.
God, we've got to go get that cocaine.
If I was a journalist, if I was working for ESPN, they would have already had me pulled out of here.
Oh, you and I would both be fired before we get ESPN.
Fired.
One, for our social media.
Two, because when I go, my sources, the one guy that is in the business, whose ball's deep usually in this stuff.
No, I'm not Aaron Hawane.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm wrong 90% of the time.
I just like to talk shit, man.
My sources say.
My sources. I don't like to talk shit, man. My sources say. My sources.
I don't have to cover with three people.
But your guy, who knows who it is.
Maybe it's the cocaine dealer.
But they should track him.
If I'm John, I'm hiring some private investigator to track some shit down.
It's too late, though.
My guy does not.
I cannot tell you who my guy is, but he does not have a vested interest in anybody being correct.
He just has what he...
Dana White.
No, no, no.
What's wrong?
No, I'm...
Dude, I'm...
He has...
What he has is a possibility.
And he also was saying, and even if it's true, good luck proving that.
No, you're screwed.
You're fucked.
You're fucked.
You're fucked.
Because all the commission knows is Toronto Bowl or whatever the fuck it is.
I would like to find out from people who actually know whether or not this is possible.
Creatine and cocaine?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Well, that I've heard is true.
I don't think I looked it up, though.
I think I heard it from other people.
I just Googled it and saw it a bunch of places.
Yeah.
So they use creatine and cocaine.
It's bro science, what we're doing.
That's what we're doing.
That's what we're always doing.
Yeah, that's what I have my masters in, brocines.
So see if it's proven that creatine tests positive for that stuff.
Because that would be very, very unique.
Turanabol, contamination in creatine.
Specifically creatine, apparently.
And a lot of the stuff that you get if you're buying vitamins,
you're getting in bulk and you're getting
in mixed places
and we had issues
the early on
batches of alpha brain
that they didn't contain
all the stuff
that it was supposed to
and that it was
it had some stuff
that we didn't even put in there
it had traces of stuff
so we had to change labs
do you want to buy some right now?
sure
we can buy some
it's a dollar
one to five US dollars per gram
what's it come with?
cholesterol acetate raw steroids,
steranobol, malasia source,
teranobol, creatine cycle.
God damn.
How much is it?
This is the very first thing that popped up.
How much is it?
Five bucks.
Oh, shit, son.
Imagine if you get swole for this winter.
That's the thing.
There's so much that they sell online that's bullshit,
but I bet a lot of this stuff is real steroids.
I agree.
What is this?
Vetli Industry Limited?
I think if you've got some shit that's like
sort of legal, I bet you could sell it.
You'd test positive for it.
But you could probably sell a lot of this stuff. Dude, I've taken a lot of fucking
supplements in my day and I never flagged.
I mean, I've taken the GNC stuff
that's like extenders,
testosterone, nothing. Ever.
Hmm. And if you're John, what the fuck are you doing? Seeender, testosterone, nothing ever.
And if you're John, what the fuck are you doing?
See if, what does that say?
Is that just showing you the supplement itself?
I think so. See if you can find creatine contaminated with tarantula.
See, that's what a lot of the baseball players get busted for.
You can just buy it that way.
Yeah, but don't write Chinese creatine tarantula.
Just write creatine contaminated
with Tiranobol. Because apparently
more than one person
has tested positive
in various sports.
From creatine specifically. In baseball,
shitload. Yeah. Well, creatine works.
Hell yeah. It gives you a fat face, though.
It makes you swell up a little bit.
The monohydrate doesn't. There's
three of them. The monohydrate holds water.
Is that it?
Yeah, so you retain a shitload of water.
You get fat face.
Yeah.
You get thick, though.
You get strong.
Put some real weight on this.
It's legit.
It's from a forum, but it says there's 42 supplements that are sold at GNC that can trigger a positive test for tyrannobol.
Wow.
And at this point, this was in 2014, USADA had only found seven of them.
Were any of them creatine?
Just see, did anything come up when you Googled creatine contaminated with Triniball?
That was the very first thing.
So one of any of those things are creatine.
See, that totally makes sense, man.
I mean, if you wanted to sell the creatine that's the bomb, yo, my creatine make you gain mad weight, son.
I'll buy it.
Yeah, for the regular dude who just goes to the gym and look good on Tinder.
I just want to look swell, son.
Trying to slide in them DMs with these fucking thighs and tris.
DMs with that Polo Costa body.
You'll take some of that creatine monohydrate.
Hell yeah.
No, creatine does work, though.
Like, as a legit supplement, that shit really works.
If you want to get, like, big and strong, creatine, son.
It's something. Yeah. I mean, it won't do. You'll pull your hamm you want to get, like, big and strong, creatine, son. It's something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it won't do.
You'll pull your hammy, but whatever.
It won't do what steroids can do, but it'll get you.
Oh, no.
You won't be Vitor or Uber Eats or John Jones and that bitch.
You'll definitely get stronger.
You'll definitely get a little stronger.
100% get stronger.
Yeah, it's legit.
But also, if you eat a lot of red meat, creatine's in red meat, too.
Mm-hmm.
So you're good.
Yeah, I've got this guy coming on.
He's a doctor.
He's a fucking, all he eats is red meat.
That's it?
Sean Baker, yeah.
Does he look like shit?
No.
He's 50.
He's jacked.
Is he?
Does fucking sets of deadlifts, does box jumps.
Is his skin purple, though?
No, he looks like a tank.
Really?
Yeah, he doesn't look like he's doing drugs at all.
I'll look him up, then.
There's a bunch of videos and pictures of him and shit.
I'm very curious to see.
I've never heard of anybody just even just advocating eating
only me I've always heard the ops that I heard if you just read me like your
cholesterol your blood pressure it's hard to break it break down in your body
like it's not the way to go I heard the less red meat is the way to go mmm
that's not totally right because most of what you get when you get high
cholesterol there's a giant there's a lot of debate when it comes to high cholesterol.
But dietary cholesterol is apparently not a big factor.
Really?
Genetics are a big factor.
Sedentary lifestyle is a big factor.
What about just digestion, all that red meat?
Yeah, it would be hard.
I would wonder.
I would wonder.
But I wonder if maybe it's not that hard.
Maybe it's the illusion.
I think there was a study that was done on red meat that was talking about what percentage of people got red meat or that ate a lot of red meat were likely to get cancer.
And the criticism of that study that I read that was really interesting said this study is not differentiating between what kind of meat you're eating.
It's not talking about eating steaks.
It's talking about just red meat.
So what are you eating with that red meat? If you're eating red meat five times a week
and you have a higher likelihood of cancer,
it's entirely possible that you're talking about cheeseburgers.
It's entirely possible you're talking about fast food
and bullshit and sandwiches
and stuff with a lot of simple, refined carbohydrates,
a lot of trans fats.
Who knows what the fuck's in there?
Yeah, you're not saying,
oh, did you eat grass-fed beef or bison five days a week?
Or did you eat bullshit five days a week?
Did you eat a fucking sausage McGriddle?
Who knows what the hell's in that thing?
What are you eating with it?
Is it bread?
Are you eating it with pasta?
How often are you eating refined carbohydrates?
All these other factors could also be contributing to your heart attack.
And they might be the difference.
But it's like one of those things gets put out there and then it just stuck with me. All these other factors could also be contributing to your heart attack. And they might be the difference.
But it's like one of those things gets put out there and then it just stuck with me.
Like, fuck, I can't eat too much red meat, man.
It's hard to digest.
I don't want to look like Hulk Hogan.
I think balance is probably good for everything.
I think it's probably good to eat a lot of fiber.
You shit a lot.
That seems good.
Like when I eat a giant salad, I take massive dumps.
And it comes out like a water slide.
Like, whoo!
Yeah.
It's just poosh.
That's what it's supposed to be like.
Or if I want to hear what Homeboy has to say, maybe you can just eat red meat like a goddamn caveman and be great.
Well, he's doing it.
He gets all his vitamins from that, too, which is insane.
Really?
He's taking supplements, for sure.
I would like to ask him.
I can't wait to talk to him.
I don't know if it's the right move.
But here's the thing.
It's like the right move for you is not the right move for him.
It's not the right move for that dude out there.
Correct.
Everybody's got a different – everybody's body is different when it comes to that.
And some people just react really well to like all fish.
Like you were doing that for a while.
Yeah, I was doing pescetarian for about two weeks.
Just cool.
Well, yeah, well, yeah, it's like, all right, you know, I get bored of fucking fish.
I like to mix things up.
I like to challenge myself with diets.
But then sometimes, sometimes it's like, I don't feel great.
I'm not doing it anymore.
I don't feel great doing that.
I gave it, to be honest, I gave it over four weeks pescetarian.
I was like, I don't feel great.
I'm sluggish in the morning.
I feel like I don't have a lot of energy from my workouts.
I'm not doing anymore.
Then I had red meat and I feel better.
Add some carbs.
Get the meat back in the system.
Yeah.
Dude,
you never even eaten elk yet.
No.
Next time.
You're giving out elk like fucking.
Come on,
I'll give you some.
All right.
But the next time you're here,
man,
I'm on a grill.
I got a grill in the back.
You're going grill?
Did you see the grill?
No.
I'll show you.
Are you guys doing campaign on Saturday, huh? Can't make it. I can't make it. You can't make it? man, I'm on a grill. I got a grill in the back. You're going to grill? Did you see the grill? No. I'll show you. Oh, you guys are doing Companion on Saturday, huh?
Can't make it.
I can't make it.
You can't make it?
No, I can't make it.
Yes, it makes me happy when you can't do it when I can't do it.
I hate being a hater.
But Callan texts me, or you text me, you go, Companion Saturday.
I go, fuck, I'm in Nashville.
I'm like, maybe I should cancel in Nashville.
I already had something that I promised I was going to do.
Yes.
I had to pull out of it.
Family stuff?
Yep.
Take that.
Yeah, take that indeed.
Yes.
Dude, I can't wait until the day we do only Fight Companions.
That's going to be fun.
I'll do like one live event a year.
That's going to be my next contract.
You just work at Mass Square Garden for the biggest card of the year?
That's exactly what you should do.
That would be amazing.
That's exactly what you should do.
That would be amazing. Can I say this you should do. That would be amazing.
Can I say this without getting a lot of hate?
I'm sure I'm going to get hate from everybody,
but in you performing at Mass Square Garden,
I don't get the big, like, hoorah with Mass Square Garden.
Like, it's old as fuck.
It doesn't look that cool.
It's the Mecca.
I know it's the Mecca.
I know, and everyone's sports and the New York Knicks.
This is one shit in forever.
Have you ever been to Rome?
Muhammad Ali hasn't fought there in forever.
No, I get it.
Do you have been to Rome?
I've never been to Rome.
Well, when you're in Rome and you just walk in the Colosseum, you're like, holy shit.
This is the fucking Colosseum.
And obviously the Colosseum has way more history.
That's what I want to see.
I want to see a fucking fight in the Colosseum.
That's what they should do.
Conor versus GSB in Italy, in the Coliseum.
You're on to something there.
You saw that bitch out.
The pure MMA fighters list right now, I fucking hate these two.
These two are assholes.
They only sell 1,000 tickets, and they only sell them in Saudi Arabia.
A million-dollar ticket, yes.
Just Dubai's up in that bitch.
China, Dubai.
It's all the ballers there. Everyone's just covered in gold and shit. Mr. Just Dubai's up in that bitch. China, Dubai. It's all the ballers there.
Everyone's just covered in gold and shit.
Yes.
Mr. Teague, starter kids.
He's got whores lined up too.
Ferraris pull up.
Ferrari, Lamborghini.
That's it.
Lamborghini limousines.
Caviar going through the aisles and shit.
Tuxedos.
Champagne.
P. Diddy changed his name for a fourth time.
Did you hear P. Diddy changed his name again? No, he didn't. Yes, he did. To what? Love. Brother Love. A.K.A. Diddy changed his name for a fourth time. Did P. Diddy change his name again?
No, he didn't. To what? Love.
Brother Love. A.K.A. Brother Love.
Hey, man! You're fucking
puffy to me. I don't give a fuck.
He said he's not going to respond to Puffy
or Diddy or P. Diddy or any of those
monikers before, those previous monikers.
He goes, I don't feel like I'm the same person.
I'm not that guy anymore. You know what? And I hear you, man.
I feel it all the time, but I'm stuck with my same fucking name. Yeah, me too! I'd like to change my name for that same reason. I don't like being known as the same person. I'm not that guy anymore. You know what? And I hear you, man. Which I feel all the time, but I'm stuck with my same fucking name.
Yeah, me too.
I'd like to change my name for that same reason.
I don't like being known as the fighter.
I'd like to change my fucking name.
Yeah.
What would you like to be?
I don't know.
You should come up with something fresh.
Like a rapper.
I know.
I need something cool.
If you're like a rapper.
I need something cool.
Like be smooth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Be smooth.
Be laughing.
And please welcome your host. be smooth. Be laughing. And please welcome your host, Be Laughing.
Be laughing.
Hey, I'll be laughing.
This is Brother Love, by the way.
The OG Brother Love.
Oh, shit, son.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Well, if you can do that, can you do that?
You did it.
Well, that seems, I'm going to call myself the Superfly.
Dude, you can't do that.
I'll call myself Superfly like Jimmy Superfly Snooker.
That's my new name, bro.
Superfly.
Dude, I'm not mad at that.
Superfly.
And you only answer Superfly?
That's it.
None of my previous monikers.
Bro, that's what you...
Sean Combs.
I won't respond.
I'll respond to all the ones that Puffy won't respond to and Superfly.
Dude.
You can call me Puffy, P. Diddy.
That's when you know you just don't have the right people around you.
When you can just change your name and won't answer anything else.
That is hilarious.
Oh, hell no.
Do you think he was just high as fuck?
Because he seems so high, he seems scared to talk to the camera.
Pull up the video.
He seems scared to talk to the camera?
Yeah, because I know when I get so high that I'm scared.
I love Brother Love's skin tone.
Amazing.
God, what is that red?
Powerful red.
He's on the beach and he's got like a white hat on.
Like a straw hat.
And it's him announcing he's changed his name?
And it's like, that's it.
That's it.
Give me some volume.
Hashtag take that.
Give it to the...
Play it from the beginning.
Serious news.
I've been praying on this, and I decided...
Oh, you prayed on it?
I know it was risky, because I knew it could come off as corny to some people.
Like, yo...
I decided to change my name again.
I'm just not who...
He's so serious
I am
Before
I'm something different
I get it
So my new name is Love
A.K.A. Brother Love
I will not be answering to Puffy
Diddy
Puff Daddy
Or any of my other monikers
But Love or Brother Love
Okay?
It's my birthday.
I feel good.
God is the greatest.
I give all glory, and I thank my mama and daddy.
What the fuck is he smoking?
Play it again.
Play it forever.
That was kind of great.
Play it forever.
He's so high, he's barely alive.
It's serious news, though.
He's been praying on it praying I know it was risky
Because I knew
It could come off as corny
To some people
Like yo
Do you think it comes off as corny?
Nah
It feels pure
I decided to change my name again
Oh dog
I decided to change my name again
Dead serious though
Yeah what's going on man
I got some serious things in my life.
My girl's breaking up with me.
Dude, did he walk back in there and was like, bro, you changed your name.
Yo, he changed his name again.
Like, he's like, he's on vacation somewhere playing golf.
It's like, this edible kicked in.
I'm going to go back here and change my name.
I bet he thought about it for a long fucking while and was like, I'm going to do it.
Look, you can see his hand holding up the phone
That's hilarious when you zoom in
Dude see his hand holding up his phone talking to his phone
I think sometimes you just smash life in every fat every lane that you just become a little crazy
Hashtag take that hashtag take that hear that take that
Yeah
Hmm seems like an odd choice, take that, take that. Dude. I don't know.
Seems like an odd choice.
But hey, why not?
Fuck it.
He did it twice.
Do it again.
I was in a gym. Did he?
He did he?
I was in a gym in Hollywood and he came in and wanted to work out midday.
He wanted everyone to leave.
Oh, that's adorable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good luck getting me out of there.
However, he let me stay for whatever reason.
I don't know.
Maybe because I looked like I was going to put up a fight.
But he came in there with a truckload of bitches.
Did he?
And was working out with all these girls?
Dancing around them?
I was nervous, too, around him.
Hell yeah.
He's about to do some Kevin Spacey shit to me or something.
I don't know.
I was nervous.
Were you really?
I was a little nervous.
Hell yeah.
He had his whole team around.
They did shut down the gym.
I was on the bike looking all cute.
They kicked everybody out.
A lot of people had to bounce that bitch.
So they told people, hey, I know you paid for your dues and you're a member here, but
that doesn't matter because this guy means more to us than you do.
Basically.
That's fucked up.
Private gym.
Private gym.
Oh, it was a private gym?
Private gym.
Oh.
And they're like, yo, we need you to get out because P. Diddy's here.
Private gym.
I said, I got 10 minutes.
What kind of a private gym is that?
I ain't going nowhere, bitch.
What kind of private gym is that? I ain't going nowhere, bitch. What kind of private gym is that?
There's a private gym for high-level athletes and celebrities.
Yeah, I don't want to give the gym out because I don't want to shit on them for this.
That's gross.
I know.
I just can't believe they would kick.
Like, why?
He can't work out with people?
He didn't want people in there.
I don't know.
Maybe he's super weak on the bench or some shit.
He had like 25s on there.
He's like, I can't let bitches see this.
Oh, that's it.
That's it, right there.
He said, try new calf raises.
Just do some bullshit workout.
That's what happened.
He's about to do some fucking jazzercise shit.
He didn't want anyone to see it.
All he does is that abductor-adductor machine.
It looks like you're squeezing your pussy together and spreading your legs.
Just some straight nonsense
All day bro
By the way that shit is phenomenal for your guard
Hell yeah
The Susan Sarandon shit
What is her name
Yes
Dude I used to jack off to her videos when I was a kid
She was bad as fuck
Yeah but she had the spring
That you push with your pussy.
That shit was legit, though. The Thighmaster.
Yes. Was it real? Does it really work?
If you sell a Thighmaster,
you should have to show your thighs.
Let's see what we're working with.
Dude, she was hot as fuck back then.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, she was pretty hot.
She was one of the classic
stories in Hollywood of negotiations gone sideways.
How so?
She was one of the big stars of Three's Company.
And there was some sort of a negotiation that didn't go well.
And they removed her from the show.
I don't know if she wound up quitting or she wrote out the contract.
On Three's Company?
Yeah.
She wound up quitting or she wrote out the contract.
On three's company?
Yeah.
At one point in time, the thing had gotten so bad that she was only appearing on the show on the phone.
She'd be like on the phone calling in.
What the hell?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was weird.
And then they replaced her.
They replaced her with a new girl.
Damn.
She tried pulling a ball and move and Hollywood was like, what? Yeah.
I don't remember the full details
I want to say that it was like a manager
Decided they were going to play hardball with the network
Because it was a big hit show
That's some Roger Werth shit of Hollywood
Here it is the crazy story of how Suzanne Somers was fired
For asking for equal pay
On Three's Company at the peak of her fame
In 1980
So I guess John Ritter
Was probably raking in all the cheese with Sun.
All the cheese.
Can you imagine if they made Three's Company in today's society?
No way it gets greenlit.
I did an episode of News Radio with John Ritter.
Was he awesome?
He was a super nice guy.
Like, weirdly nice.
And people always say that about him.
Yeah, people say great things.
Just a genuine nice guy.
Dude, how about your boy on your show House of Cards, Kevin Spacey?
Woo!
They say he's super screw screw.
Well, you hear what they were saying about the actual set?
That he would just be grabbing guys' dicks on the set and cornering them and shit?
God, dog, just the ultimate dick diver.
Just relax.
Well, here's a little insight into that.
His brother did an interview where his brother was talking about, I think, his dad raping his brother.
Like, really heavy-duty shit.
And his brother is dressed like Rod Stewart in the 1970s with crazy hair and some yellow leather jacket with rings on and shit or something.
Like, just crazy fashion.
Yeah, lots of shit.
And you're like, what is going on?
And you realize, oh, these two probably come from an extremely sexually abusive household.
And he was talking about how he thinks that, and I don't know if this was pre or post allegation,
because I literally only watched like two minutes of it.
I read a little bit of it, and I watched two minutes of it, and then my little fucking chipmunk brain was like,
next thing, please.
See ya.
But he was talking about how he thinks that Kevin Spacey became an actor because he hated his life
and hated like what he experienced growing up.
So I want to be someone else.
He wanted to be someone else.
But Dan,
was he good at it?
He was amazing actor,
but I don't think his brother wasn't.
I don't,
I don't know if they even addressed his sexual abuse allegations.
Damn.
Cause I didn't really get into it.
That's some heavy shit.
You can find it.
Dude, scary shit.
That it went on for so long. This Harvey
Weinstein shit is scary too.
You know what I found? You want to see something crazy?
Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie. I'd like to see something crazy.
I found some shit from 1947.
Hold on one second.
I don't know.
Dude, how ugly are all these sexual predators, too?
They're hideous.
You're not going to see my boy Kosta getting accused of sexual assault.
You don't need to.
Yeah.
They are hideous, but it seems like this was what they did in Hollywood.
It's the culture, right?
These guys are products of the environment. I'm going the reason. It's the culture, right? Like, these guys are products
of the environment. Because there's a lot.
Right now, Jamie, would you be able to put
this up? It's a text. Or email.
Yeah, a text message. Yeah, sure.
Okay, here, I'm going to send it to you. Because this is
crazy. This is from this woman
in 1947.
And she was talking about this very thing.
Kevin Spacey thing.
What is it? It's on his brother.
It says,
The price of betrayal and deviancy,
how an abusive childhood at the hands of a vile Nazi father
turned Kevin Spacey into a, quote,
monster whose life was a lie.
Wow.
Damn, man.
Kevin Spacey was born Kevin Fowler,
grew up with a Nazi-supporting father.
Older brother Randy recalls being sexually abused by father Thomas,
aged 14, while mother Kathleen turned a blind eye.
Oof.
Listen, obviously what he did is horrible, and he's a monster,
but God, man, you feel bad for him.
You do feel bad.
Jamie, look at that text that I sent you.
This was, again, this is from
1947, and it was
Maureen O'Hara.
And she charged Hollywood
producers and directors with calling her
a cold potato without sex appeal
because she refuses to let them make love
to her, says the mere New York
correspondent. She says,
in quotes, I am so upset with it
that I am ready to quit Hollywood, Maureen says. It's, in quotes, I'm so upset with it that I am ready to quit Hollywood,
Maureen says. It's got so bad, I hate to come to work in the morning. I'm a helpless victim
of Hollywood's whispering campaign because I don't let the producer and the director
kiss me every morning or let them paw me. They have spread word around town that I something not a woman am.
Am not a woman.
That I'm a cold piece.
A marble statuary.
Hmm.
Wow.
Jesus Christ, man.
So that just shows you.
How long it's been going on.
That this is probably what they always did.
And there's so many more monsters
Like these guys are the product of the machine
Well yeah I mean
If you're an intern and you grew up seeing that
And then you become some sort of a studio head
And then you see that everywhere around you
And then you're doing it
Yeah it's literally the product of the environment
It's like that's the nature of the business
Which is horrible to say
And now it's finally out there.
Yeah.
The Kevin Spacey thing is crazy.
Super fun.
It's crazy because it's all like a lot of 14-year-olds that he was.
Grabbing their dick.
Shit.
Fuck, man.
And then you see Harvey, fucking Harvey Weinstein just looks like pure shit.
He tried like going in a disguise at like a sports bar or some shit.
You see this?
No, he didn't.
Yeah, he did. Sir, you are six, five three hundred pounds out of shape. Your face is everywhere
He tried to go into a sports bar with a sky
Yeah, there's like a picture of him at a bar and people are like you shitting me
What are you doing? He really thought he was gonna sneak in. Yeah, that's like the mountain from Game of Thrones sitting at a bar
We're like no. Well, no, everyone knows what the fuck you look like. Look at this wigs
Phoenix restaurant hardly see that Game of Thrones sitting at a bar. We're like, no, well, no, everyone knows what the fuck you look like. Look at this. He wigs out. He's wearing a wig and makeup. Let me see it. Phoenix Restaurant. I can hardly
see that. I mean, it's hard to see.
You sure
that's him? Yeah, that's him.
That picture. Yeah, but that picture looks
terrible. That's a horrible picture,
but that's him. It's hard to tell.
He's in the Phoenix area where he's completed
a one-week outpatient rehab program.
Jesus Christ.
So crazy.
Bitch, you can't put a hat on and a wig and think we won't notice.
Dark shit, man.
Right above it, it said Johnny Depp to sell homes to pay debt.
Yes.
I'd still love that guy.
He just goes off.
Yeah, he's just going crazy. Imagine how much money that guy made. I'd still love that guy. He just goes off. Yeah, he's just going crazy.
Imagine how much money that guy made.
He's still just spending it.
Could lose homes to repay a $5 million loan.
Wow.
Just sell one home, son.
But that's not good.
That means he doesn't have $5 million to pay a loan.
And he has like 14 houses he owns.
Hey, Disney, better strike up another pipe.
Can you imagine if you went on just a hurricane ride of cocaine for like 17 years,
and all of a sudden you woke up, and you're like.
I go, what?
How many houses?
Who fucking let me buy all these houses?
18 houses?
Are you shitting me?
I wonder why he's suing his business manager.
He's like, you knew I was on coke?
You let me buy 14 houses when I was on coke.
God damn it
poor bastard hey man how many years after retiring from boxing is foy mayweather broke uh the i mean the connor fight alarms me uh five five probably five five does he make a comeback
fight at like 46 no none of that shit sound you don't. Does he make a comeback fight at like 46? No.
None of that shit's out.
You don't think so?
Uh-uh.
Comeback fight at 46.
Nah, it's just too sad.
His ego's too big.
And the market's not there anymore.
I think he tries to talk Conor McGregor into a rematch.
I'm not kidding.
Did you see Conor's statements about that?
No, what'd he say?
He said I'd beat him in a rematch.
Adorable.
Yeah, I know.
It's like, goddammit.
Yeah. Come on. Well, he would
have to do something
extremely different in his training.
No, no, it's just not.
He's never beating
Mayweather in a boxing match. It's just not possible.
It looked like he was punching him hard, right?
It looked like he clipped him with that one
hard uppercut, but it looks like he was pacing
himself and saving his energy.
It's just not the way to go.
I get what he's doing, but it's just not the way to go.
Yeah, but if you're making $100 million, it's $100 million.
If he could sucker people into doing it again for $100 million.
Well, what do you think the UFC is going to have to do to get Conor back?
What do you think the UFC is going to have to do to get Conor back?
Because Conor had his movie premiere, which I guess destroyed the box offices in Ireland.
I don't know how many premieres they have out there, but it's the biggest, most successful Irish movie of all time.
That's so crazy.
Yeah, which is crazy.
It's so crazy.
But they asked him, what do you have to do?
He goes, oh, we're not – I don't have bosses anymore.
We have to be partners, which is a legit point. Yeah point yeah it's a legit point he's a different business entity but i think part of the point is going to be that he can't talk about it it's probably i agree i think the deal is going to
happen and then you're just like no i'm finding normal contract because ufc is like yeah we get
it bitch we're going to give you some money there's also the issue if you're negotiating
that you go public with this negotiation like that. You don't want to talk about that.
No.
I mean, I guess he does for his brand because it makes him look like a super baller.
They've got the pay corner now.
They can't just fucking keep on the same deal that they had before.
Do you trust Conor not to say anything?
Well, for Conor, part of his thing is disclosing it.
It's part of his swagger.
It's how much money he's making. It's part of his swagger.
It's how much money he's making. It's what makes him Conor McGregor.
He's beating the game, which is why we like him.
We've changed the game.
Yeah.
There's got to be parity now.
Yeah.
It can't be the old deal.
Yeah.
It can't be the old deal.
So you think they give him a part?
I think if I was the UFC, I would do what it takes to be in the Conor McGregor business.
Now, I don't know what that means because I don't know shit about business.
It means you're giving up a percentage of your company.
I think you've got to give up a percentage if you want a percentage.
Okay?
Look at 94% like this movie.
It's out Friday.
Fucking amazing.
It's fucking amazing.
94%.
It's out Friday in all the movie theaters here?
I don't know about all, but I think a lot of them probably.
Find those fucking 6% piece of shite.
Chase them through the streets of Dublin.
Just 6% of Nate Diaz fans?
Yeah, what is that about?
Who are these 6% fucking haters?
Super haters, right?
Pure haters.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
So you're not getting the Nate fight then if Tony and Connor fight?
Say that again?
You're probably not getting the Nate fight anytime soon if...
No.
Because Connor's team says, too, that Tony's the next fight.
His management says that and Dana says that.
So what do you do if you're Nate?
I think they don't want to do a Nate fight.
Who does?
Oh, you think Connor does it?
I don't know.
I think they think Nate is a big fucking guy.
He's long.
He's a rough fight.
Rougher than Tony Ferg?
I think they're both rough fights.
They're both.
Neither one of them.
You can walk in the park.
But after coming off of that real hard fight with Nate, maybe he thinks Tony's easier to hit.
No.
Although, well, he hit Nate a lot, too, though.
Yeah, he did hit Nate a lot.
And it's at 55, but plus, which is going to get more hype?
Nate.
I agree.
I agree.
If Eddie was here, he'd argue differently.
He'd be going crazy.
Tony's a star.
He's a superstar.
He's a superstar.
I went, Eddie, you've got to relax.
Yeah.
But, you know, Eddie trains him.
Yes.
I totally understand.
100%.
I'd be saying the same thing. Look, I honestly want to see each fight equally. I really him. I mean, you totally understand. 100%. I'd be saying the same thing.
Look, I honestly want to see each fight equally.
I really do.
I don't have a favorite.
I would love to see Nate and Conor go at it again.
I would love to see Conor go at it with Tony.
I literally do not have a favorite.
I love both of those fights.
What happens if you only get one fight out of Conor?
Conor goes, I'm only fighting once.
Tony.
I'm going to let Joe Rogan be the guy who decides.
You got Tony, Nate, or GSP. once. Tony. I'm going to let Joe Rogan be the guy who decides. You got Tony, Nate, or GSP.
Tony.
Tony.
Because we haven't seen him fight Tony before.
We've seen him fight Nate twice.
GSP is such a long shot.
It's a different weight class.
It's 170.
I mean, GSP had talked about going to 55 at one point in time.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would take a long fucking time from from the people who i know who
are super close with george what they want is woodley and then a super fight with with connor
that's their game plan why do they want woodley 70 champ you're not gonna vacate 85 85 doesn't
make sense dangerous fight hell yeah but they're all dangerous. All dangerous.
All dangerous.
Everybody wants 70.
85, that's just unrealistic.
That ain't happening.
70 makes more sense.
But look at what Dana said.
Don't call him a liar.
I'll call him right now.
Did you say he's a liar?
He already hates me.
He said, Robert Whitaker.
He already hates me anyways, so he can't get any worse.
So I don't give a fuck.
But I think he has to say that.
There's a lot of things where he's a... listen, I know he's your friend, but he's
also a promoter.
He's the best promoter in the game.
Right.
So he has to say certain stuff so there's just not a wild west.
Maybe George really wants to fight Robert Whitaker.
It's entirely possible.
George really likes it at 185.
Who knows?
I don't know.
Not happening.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'll take it. It's's not like I'll take it
it's not like
I'll take it too
it's not like Dana's
word is bond here
where you know
he hasn't said
Atlanta shit before
to hype a thing
let me ask you this
what do you rather see
do you rather see him
versus GSP
versus Robert Whitaker
or GSV
versus Woodley
um
god that's a great question
I got my answer
yeah Whitaker right it's so fucking exciting
because we can knock his ass out knock anybody out and he's aggressive and he's he's very technical
his striking is fucking wicked he's wicked what would i rather see yeah i'd rather see whitaker
gsp oh if i'm on gsb's team he's fighting woodley really whitaker ain't a fun fight for him i don't
think either fight's a fun fight for anybody. Neither's fun, but at
85, there's a lot of his
stamina. There's a lot. It's just
not fun for him. Well, it's interesting because
Robert Whitaker, the 185
pound interim champ, used to be a 170
pound fighter as well, and he was stopped by Wonderboy.
Yeah, that's true.
But he was draining
himself to make 170, and
Whitaker, again, we're talking about a 26-year-old guy
who when he changed weight classes was probably only 23.
Yeah.
Right?
Was it about three years ago?
Yeah.
His last loss, right?
Yep.
Yeah, he just couldn't make the weight.
He was just draining himself.
And it's hard to make weight when you're older.
Mm-hmm.
And he's pretty fucking stout at 185 pounds.
I mean, he's not a small 185.
He's the fastest 85 in the world.
Were you shocked by Musassi, the Musassi fight?
Do you think that shows you how good the Bellator guys are?
Yes and no.
I do.
I think Bellator's at a level.
Certain guys are at a level, but I think Musassi, if he hears the interview,
he was actually pretty funny in it.
But he was like, I had one fucking eye, man.
I literally had one eye.
He closed my eye up, so I was just going off instincts.
And Shomenko's very tough, man.
Very tough.
So I have one eye.
He's tough.
That's what you get.
Yeah.
He caught him with one big clanger.
But he was pulling the Brandon Vera where he was like, before he even got there, he
was like, I'm going gonna be champ at middleweight
Lightweight heavyweight like whoa. I think everyone's gonna go thug Rose now
Hey, I just want to be a cool person
Be myself you can't do that kick your ass. She's like our father won't have an hobby. That was some scary shit
We only got room for one right she did it though. I know man very happy me too that left hook was that was
one of the most uh intriguing fights on the card to me i i gotta be honest and i again i've known
rose and we have a history in denver and we have the same coaches and i love rose and i bet on her
just because she's such a big underdog i and i predicted i thought she was gonna get she's gonna
be a lot of trouble because yoana's just so technical. Yeah. But I think Joanna didn't respect her.
She kind of overlooked her.
That championship, those obligations you have as a champion,
I don't think people realize what comes with that.
A lot of people go, yeah, I think it was Dana said this or it was Ron,
like, everyone wants to be a champ, so you have to do championship shit,
which you've got to sell the fight.
You're the reason why the pay-per-view is selling.
There's a lot that comes with that
So and it's it's George retired because it he's like dude. I can't relax man Yeah, we don't get to see it very often too
You know like we don't get to see it
We see little clips here and there but we don't know what their schedules like all the phone calls they have to make all the interviews
They have Connor talked about a long remember he backed out that when they wanted to do that fight
He's like now fuck me. I'm not doing all that media. That's right. You guys are killing me They were gonna pull them from the long. Remember, he backed out when they wanted to do that fight. He's like, no, fuck me. I'm not doing all that media.
That's right.
You guys are killing me.
They pulled him from the cart.
Yeah.
He was like, cool.
I don't give a fuck.
I need to train.
You guys are having me do all this media circus stuff.
I got to focus on the fight, man.
Right.
And they put him through more injuries than anyone ever.
Of course, because he's the most requested.
And that motherfucker's never met a camera he doesn't like.
And think about it.
He was like, no.
No, I'm going crazy
yeah remember when him and aldo they did that world tour yeah that was ridiculous nuts man that
world over over crazy how about the and then the floyd mayweather tour that was that schedule was
nuts and i was just the commentator on that bitch i was exhausted yeah how crazy was that that tour
where they would stand in front of her but even talk shit i told them after two
cities it'd be tough for the best comics in the world come with new material six nights in a row
yeah let alone these two fighters yeah like the first two cities you saw they had their shit
together it was fun then after that third one i was like what are we doing what do you think
would they sell them tickets to that or they're giving away for free? I think they're giving them away, but it was
I've never seen some shit like that
Right. How many different ones did you go to live? I went to all of them except for London. How many have weather I went
Let's see. I went to Los Angeles
New York in Toronto and then they did London someone and I went on all. Damn. And the biggest one, Toronto. I've never seen anything like it, man.
Really?
Never.
Wow.
People hanging off the rafters to get a piece of them.
It was nuts.
Scary shit.
There's no one like him.
It's weird.
You know, there's a lot of great fighters right now, but there's no one that has the same
enigmatic persona, this fucking quality that makes everybody want to be around him.
No one on the planet.
There's no one even a close second.
There's never been a close second, has there?
Nah.
Nah, like as far as like popularity,
he's like the biggest combat sports athlete ever
because who else could go from one sport to the next the way he did?
No, it was just perfect timing, perfect style.
But the talent right now at 55 and 70, again, I was looking at 70, I'm like, oh, my God.
The UFC is operating at such a high level talent-wise, it's nuts.
In certain divisions.
Other divisions, it's Jesus Christ, we need some life.
Do you think you could ever talk George into fighting Conor?
100%.
I'm telling you, Joe.
Think that can happen at 170?
I'm telling you, when I tell you my guys are super close to George,
their plan is Woodley, Conor. Now, a lot has to happen, and my guys are super close to George, their plan is Woodley, Connor.
Now, a lot has to happen.
And these guys are, you know me, brother.
Yeah.
Hey, man.
Woodley, Connor.
If George comes back and beats Tyron Woodley, first of all,
that would cement him as the GOAT.
He's the GOAT already, let's be honest.
Coming back at 36 and winning the middleweight title, moving up 15 pounds.
Finishing him.
15 pounds. Puttingishing him. 15 pounds.
Putting him to sleep.
But it's still, like, that's accomplishment goat versus, like, technique goat.
Technique goat is Mighty Mouse.
Who's Mighty Mouse fighting?
Nobody like that.
We always go through this.
Nobody like that.
Look at George's resume.
Yeah.
And you're talking about non-USADA days.
It's true.
When it was the wild fucking west.
Well, that's...
Creatine, what?
That's a question, too. Least of, what? That's a question, too.
Least of our worries.
That's a question, too, about creatine in the bag.
I've got to wrap this up.
Tell everybody where you're going to be.
This week, let's see, Thursday I'm in Charlotte.
Friday, Saturday, Zany's in Nashville.
Killing it on the road.
Yeah, son.
Sunday night.
I'm killing it on the road.
Sunday night, Columbus.
Charlotte, Nashville, Columbus. Let's do this. D5K.com. Yeah. I'm at the Ice House Friday night. Sunday night killing it on the road Sunday night Columbus Charlotte Nashville Columbus
let's do this
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