The Joel Klatt Show: A College Football Podcast - Is a 24-Team College Football Playoff inevitable now?

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

With momentum building within the sport for the 24-team Playoff, Fox Sports’ lead College Football analyst Joel Klatt breaks down why things have shifted toward the expanded format. Klatt explains what changes drove the ACC, Big 12 & Notre Dame to join the Big Ten in support of the 24-team model and who is motivated to expand the field beyond the current 12-team setup. He also lays out what dominoes are left to fall if this seismic shift in the sport is to be finalized and why there may be signs that the SEC’s strong opposition to the change may be starting to shift.Use my code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/KLATT10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Chapters:Intro: 00:0024-Team Playoff Model: 1:04Who Wants 24-Team Playoff: 5:47NIL & Transfer Rules Affect: 10:27Bowl Games Gone?: 11:37Is it Inevitable?: 29:22 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Is this absolutely going to happen? I just want to give you information. Who's actually arguing for this and why? It's no different than inflation. We just have inflation in college football. All of this lies with an agreement between the Big Ten and the SEC. Because those two entities actually control the future of the CFP. Hey, welcome into the program.

This is the Joel Clat show. I'm Joel Clatt. This show is brought to you by Graduate by Hilton. We thank them for their support as always. Welcome in to another episode here in the offseason. We are thrilled that you. you are with us. I want to get into some current events here because there's been a lot of news in college football over the last week or so. And I'm sure you're like me, you're kind of wondering, shoot, what in the world has changed? Because it seems like a lot has changed. And in particular,

with sentiments with the college football world or people within college football, around the college football playoff and the model and the expansion and the number of teams that would potentially get into the college football playoffs. So if you have been buried under a rock and you're a college football fan. You might not know this, but most of the conferences, in fact, all the conferences that were against moving to a 16 or 24 team model in previous years have now come out and been in favor of expanding in particular to this 24 team model. And that's really where the news is at. The Big 12, the ACC, they jumped on board. They want to expand. It's been interesting. Let's just say that because it's been a major shift. We were in a position where the Big 10 was pushing for a

team model and they wanted automatic qualifiers and nobody was for that. And even you, the fan was not really for that. The conferences, other conferences, the SEC was against it. The Big 12 was against it. The ACC was against it. The Notre Dame was against it. The AFCA, the American Football Coaches Association didn't come out and back that. And then all a sudden in the last week and a half, all of those entities have switched except for the SEC. So what changed? What changed? Well, first and foremost, you have have to understand that the Big 12 and the ACC, the reason they weren't for any previous expansion model, in particular the models that the Big Ten had put forth, is because those were

primarily based on automatic qualifying spots. So giving four spots in some cases to the SEC and the Big Ten and then a lower number of spots and it was debated between two and three to the ACC and the Big 12. Well, the ACC and the Big 12 were never going to get on board with that because their red line, their red pill was the fact that they were not. not going to sign a document that admitted they were lesser than the other conferences. So those were never going to go anywhere, anywhere. Although those conferences at the same time wanted more access. So they didn't mind the idea of expansion.

What they minded was the idea of automatic spots and them taking less spots than the other conferences. They were never going to do that. Well, the Big Ten's model or proposal did away with those automatic qualifying spots. And they said, no, you know what? We're fine. just expanding and keeping this as a selection-based model. And we'll just go with the 23 best teams plus a group of six opponent in there.

And then all of a sudden, that peaked the interest of the other conferences. And they thought to themselves, okay, so wait, we're not having to sign a document that says we are a lesser conference, which was the red line, and we're going to get opportunities or more access into an expanded playoff. Well, that's why they're on board at this point. Now, there's a lot going on, and it runs a lot deeper than that. And let me just acknowledge, first and foremost, most fans are totally against expansion. And I get it.

I absolutely get it. And there's a real element of frustration, I think, amongst fans, in particular because you're sitting there thinking to yourself, hang on, Joel, this 12-team model was fantastic. And last year in college football might have been one of the great years that we've ever had in college football. And you keep arguing that this is the golden age of college football. And guess what? You're not wrong. The 12 team model absolutely worked. There's no doubt about it. Now, you could think to yourself like, well, with all of these opinions swinging in that direction, this seems inevitable. But that's not the case either, because it doesn't really matter what the Big 12 and the

ACC or Notre Dame or the AFCA doesn't matter what they back. It only matters what the Big 10 and the SEC agree upon. because those two entities actually control the future of the CFP. Now, the others gave them the right to have that power, and they've got this memo of understanding, if you will, and they will control this playoff remaining as it is, expanding to 14, expanding to 16, expanding to 24. If the SEC and the Big 10 would have agreed on an automatic qualifier expansion, it would have happened by now against the wishes of the other conferences.

But they weren't aligned. The SEC and the Big Ten were not aligned. And guess what? They are still not aligned. So we are sitting in a very similar spot that we were before in that this is not inevitable. Okay. So I don't want everybody to get bent out of shape because this is not just going to happen next year or this is not going to happen absolutely just because these other entities are all

the sudden now coming on board with this expansion model. I will explain all of this here. in the next few moments. It is key, though, and you have to understand that all of this lies with an agreement between the Big Ten and the SEC. If they don't agree, which they do not right now currently, then nothing is going to change. Okay. And so that's where we're at right now.

Okay. Now, I acknowledge this, and I want to acknowledge this further. I know that you aren't behind this as a fan. I get that. Okay, I see it. I see the comments. I see the social media out there. I see what gets traction.

There's no doubt. And guess what? You are college football in a lot of ways, a lot of ways. There is no college football. This sport is not entering into the golden era of its age, if you will. If it wasn't for you, the reason that there is more revenue in college football than ever before is because of you. Because you show up. Because you watch the game.

It's because of your interest in this sport. Okay. So your sentiments matter. And there's no doubt about that. And I understand them. I totally understand them. A lot of fans would say right off the bat, what are we doing? This would totally ruin the regular season in college football.

And this is the most important regular season in all of sports. And guess what? I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. And listen, your sentiment is not wrong. There's no doubt. Others would say, like, what would stop them at 24 if they're not going to stop at 12. I understand that as well. Now, there might be a debate at that stage. Maybe the contract is

longer or there's language within the contract. I'm not sure, but I understand that sentiment. We see this with the NCAA basketball tournament. I mean, what are they? Are there expanding past 70 now? So what would stop college football from expanding past 24? If there's more revenue at 24, isn't there more revenue at 32? And so I completely understand. And I don't think that you're wrong, I do think that that's a debatable aspect because all of that could be entered into a contract. Now, others would also say, I don't love this because we could get a devaluing of the regular season by teams resting starters late in the season. Now, this is the one that I would just say, this is highly debatable. And this is just from me as a player. I will

just tell you right now, like college football players have a very limited window to go and play. in particular if they want to further their career after college football, and those games matter, all right? And so it's not quite like the NFL when a guy has a long-term contract and he's resting a couple of weeks and he knows he's going to play for a few more years and they're going to be a top seat in the playoff. It's not totally similar to the NFL in that regard because I do think college football is unique in its small window for the participants

to go and compete. Okay, so that's a debatable issue. I don't think that you're necessarily wrong, and I understand the sentiment. There's no doubt. I just think that that's one that you could debate. This 12-team model, there's no doubt it's worked out. And so all of those concerns that you have as fans, I think that they are right in a lot of ways. And by the way, when we expanded to 12, I had similar concerns.

I had similar concerns in particular around the expansion of the playoff affecting the importance of the regular season. And to some degree, that has happened, right? I mean, we were debating heavily between two-loss Miami and two-loss Notre Dame. And some would say, like, hey, who cares? They lost two games. Listen, I can get behind that sentiment. There's no doubt. I don't think that there's anybody out there that would say that the 12-team model hasn't worked, however. And so in that case, I do believe that the downsides of the 12-team model have been lesser than the gains that we've had in college football. Because again, I think a lot of us would agree last year was one of the great seasons that we've ever seen. We would have never seen

Indiana win a national championship and goes 16 and 0 in previous iterations of college football. It would have never happened. And so in a lot of degrees, this has worked. There's no doubt. So you might be saying to yourself, well, what's changed then? Well, what's changed is that the mechanism that allowed the 12 team model to succeed has some unintended consequences. And so what I want to do here is I just want to give you information. I'm not going to try to grandstand here. This is not a soapbox. I am not taking a position on this issue.

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I think we all kind of understand that, right? Because in the 14th playoff era, we would look at an expansion to 12 and be like, who cares? The 13th ranked team would never win a national championship. But NIL and Transfer Portal, the agency that players have to move around, now what did it do? It equated rosters. And so now there are more teams than 12 that could compete for and win the national championship. Now, you might not have a lot of sympathy for a team like Notre Dame who lost twice, and that's fine. But I don't think there's any argument. If I were to tell you, Notre Dame could have won the national championship.

I don't think that's totally outlandish. I don't. Okay. And so obviously you see that the mechanisms that have, created more parity in college football could present some unintended consequences. One of the things that this model has done, and we saw this first happened with the 14 playoff model, and now it's continued to happen and maybe even furthered this, is the collapse of the bowl apparatus. All right? Bulls don't mean anything anymore. And by the way, that pains me to say it because I loved bowl season.

I loved it as a player. We won nine games in 2002 at Colorado. We went to the Alamo Bowl. and guess what? We thought it was a successful season. Well, now all those bowls, kind of the upper middle class bowls in college football, it doesn't matter. And who cares? Right. And that pains me to say it. The Alamo Bowl, the Gator Bowl, the citrus bowl, all these bowls that were fantastic and could define a program as successful, that's no longer available. Okay. So the collapse of the bowl apparatus is absolutely real. We've also seen an increase in investment. That's obvious and true.

major investment across college football. In order to compete even at a minimum level, you've got to spend the floor of the revenue share, which is $20 million plus. And most teams and programs will tell you that's not actually the real number. You need to be north of $30 million investment into your roster to actually compete in college football. Well, that's a major investment. And guess what? When it's over the revenue share dollars, you're having to get that from boosters, investors at that point. And with more boosters and their investments, in the program comes more pressure. We've also seen an unintended consequence of this 12-team selection-based model and what it's done to the non-league schedule. That's obvious as well.

Okay, so we know that teams are getting out of some of these marquee non-league games because what's the point? If you're going to lose those games and get penalized, why wouldn't you just play a lesser opponent and get the win and then move forward from there? So you can see the unintended consequences and I trust that you see them as well, right? So you can hate the idea of an expansion to 24, but these are the unintended consequences that the people within college football are having to deal with.

So let's talk about those for a moment. Let's talk about this narrow definition of success because we're under it. This is the world that we live in right now currently, and this is the reality that faces a lot of coaches and athletic directors around the country. Eight wins, nine wins doesn't do anything for you. You can't build on that.

It's hard to generate, revenue. It's hard to generate season ticket sales. It's hard to recruit to that because there's no definition of success. It's a hollowing out of that portion of college football. You are no longer successful when you go to the Citrus Bowl or the Gator Bowl, the Holiday Bowl, or the Alamo bowl. And that's really painful for a lot of programs within the sport. And so you look up and you can no longer define yourself as quality. It's hard to generate support. nothing matters outside of the CFP. And I think that we know that.

And here's the thing. It's not just on the field that we understand that, but it's also the narrative in the sport and how we talk about this sport. And listen, I'm not going to sit here and bash on ESPN. Because if Fox had the 12 team playoff and we were the sole partner, guess what? We would focus all of our energy into maximizing the importance of that playoff. Well, that's all ESPN has done. That's their job.

they made a giant investment into the college football playoff over a billion dollars annually in order to televise the college football playoff. So what should they do? Make it the most important thing possible. Derive all meaning into that area of the season. So they're doing exactly what they should do. This is not their fault. In a lot of cases, they built college football into what it is now.

And now all they're doing is that they're protecting their billion dollar investment, as they should, as they should. But what has happened now is the weekly rankings, all the talk and all the narrative. All it suggests is that if you're not within that who's in model, then who cares? Then who cares? And yet, all of those programs are still expected to have this major investment from outside boosters in order to try to build a roster to get to that point. And it's really hard to get to that point.

So you can see this like this fight, right? And we've got this fight going on right now. Here's how I would equate it. I think all of us feel this even right now in our economy, right? Like it's no different than inflation. We just have inflation in college football. Too much money chasing too few goods. There's too many teams investing at a high level chasing two few spots of success.

And so what does that do? What does inflation do? And we've seen it in our country, right? I mean, I was an economics major, so forgive me for, you know, economics analogy, it's hollowed out the middle class. It's much more difficult to define yourself as successful in the middle class because why? Because too few dollars or excuse me, too many dollars are chasing two few goods. You're spending a lot more at the grocery store for the exact same bag of groceries.

Well, that's exactly what's going on now in the middle class, upper middle class in college football. So who am I talking about? It's Iowa. It's Michigan State. It's South Carolina. It can be Tennessee at times. It can be a lot of programs. It can be Kansas State. It can be Iowa State. It can be Utah. It can be BYU. There are so many programs that used to have the ability to get to an upper tier bowl game. And that tier has been hollowed out. They can't define themselves as successful unless they're in. Okay. So those programs are sitting there and they're thinking to themselves, how in the world do we get a return on investment? Now, you can disagree with that, but that's the challenge that they're facing. All right. And that's what's driving all. of this. So all the middle class in college football is looking for is they're looking for an

opportunity to say like, please give us the opportunity to play meaningful games as it relates to the most meaningful thing in the sport, whether it's regular season games or in the playoff. Give us a chance one every five years, once every 10 years, to define ourselves as successful. Because then we can hang our hat on that and we can recruit to that and we can generate support based off that. We can sell season tickets off of that. You see, you don't need Kansas State in the playoff every single year, but Kansas State goes to the playoff once every five or 10 years, and guess what? Their fan base feels in. They feel in. You don't feel just like a hollowed out middle class at that point. And what else do we know about inflation? It doesn't affect the one percenters. It doesn't.

And so we keep talking about the 1% in college football. This does not impact Ohio State. This does not impact Alabama and Georgia and Texas. They are the one percenters of college football. It doesn't impact them. It doesn't matter if this stays at 12 or goes to 24. Their access and their path is going to be exactly the same. Now, you could argue maybe their regular season might be devalued. You can argue that.

And you might not be wrong. And that might be bad for the sport. But it doesn't take away from the fact that the other teams are now facing a reality where their definition of success has been completely removed from their repertoire, if you will, or their definition. So the one percenters are going to be just fine. So let me put some numbers to this. If you were to throw a 24-team model on the entire CFP era,

so go back to 2014, what you would see is about 70 to 80 programs, and depending on how a group of six teams would have been ranked in a new model, so it would vary based on the equation that you used. But what you would see is about 70 to 80 programs would have been participants in the CFP. Well, that's what they're asking for. They're asking for once every 10 years, once every eight years, to be relevant, to define themselves as successful. That's what they're asking for.

And that's why they want this playoff to expand to 24, because of the hollowing out of the tiered bowl system that we had for years. If you look at the eras of college football, we had the poll era forever. And guess what? Not many people liked that because we had co-national champions. We had teams left out and this and that and the voting and this coach voted a different way. And then we went to the BCS system. And people thought that was okay.

You know, okay, finally we got the same too. But guess what the BCS system still allowed for? The tiered bowl system. Because when we had the BCS system from 1998 to 2013, it was just the top two teams. So it was like, okay, they can go play their national championship. But guess what? We still made the holiday bowl. We still made the Alamo Bowl.

And we can still define ourselves as successful. And then all of a sudden in 2014, it became not a tiered system of success, but who's in? Who's in? And the legs were just chopped out from college football. The middle class was eviscerated. And that was a real problem in the four-team model. And we all knew it. We all knew it.

And that's part of the reason why we expanded to 12. And all they're saying now is, if we're going to invest these major dollars into the program, we need at least a carrot out there. We need to compete once every eight, once every 10 years. And that's what they're saying. And so this 12 team model has come under scrutiny because of that. It's not all about revenue. And I'm going to get to the revenue side in just a moment.

So who's driving this? Coaches. coaches are driving this and athletic directors are driving this. Now, you have to understand one thing about what I said at the beginning of the program. And that is that the SEC and the Big Ten are going to drive this. And it's not just Tony Petiti and Greg Sankey, the commissioners, but it's the people that they work for. It's the presidents of those institutions that ultimately are going to have the final say. All right?

If the presidents walk into Tony Petiti's office and say, we want to, you to do X, Y, and Z, guess what he's going to do, X, Y, and Z. Now, he might try to debate them and put forth a different scenario, but that's ultimately his job. He works for those presidents, and that's the exact same definition that Greg Zanky has working for all the SEC presidents. So, where are we at? Well, coaches. Coaches and athletic directors are now trying to convince their presidents that, hey, this expansion, we need this expansion. Because without a definition of success, how in the world are we going to raise this money in order to compete? because what they fear is that the middle class is going to stop investing.

And once they stop investing, then we lose the parody in college football, which we all love from this last year in particular in the 12-team model with Indiana winning the national championship. Now, that sounds like a soapbox. It's not. It's a perspective. And I want you to take your sentiments of how you feel about the playoff and those details that I just gave and just weigh them against each other.

The coach's viewpoint is this. They want a wider definition of success. And what comes with that is they also want the season to shorten. So what they also want is the conference championship games to go away. And that is a major piece of this, major piece of this. And this is why it's not 16 and it's 24. Let me explain. And now we finally get into the revenue side of why the 24 team,

model is being proposed and not 16. If you get rid of conference championship games, which you would have to do in order to finish the season around January 1st, you see, coaches don't want to end the season January 24th. They don't want that. They want to end the season at the latest where we did in the old BCS era, which was like a week after January 1st, at the latest, at the latest. So they want the playoff to be run and competed during the month of December.

and they want to finish near January 1st. Now, could that happen in the current structure of the television deal? Probably not. That's probably, you know, a few years out, three, four, five years out. But this is where the rubber meets the road of why you can't go to just 16 and you have to go to 24. And this is where people start to get angry because then it becomes all about the economics. If you're going to get rid of the championship games, which you would have to do to finish the season at or near January 1st, Now you have to recoup the revenue that the championship games generate.

Okay, and I know you've read some of this. And listen, the total, it's not official. I've heard all the way up to 400 million. I've heard numbers like 250 million. But let's just say it's a range between $250 million and $400 million. And that's the revenue through television contracts that championship games gain for their conferences. So in order to expand and get rid of those games, you have to increase the value of the playoff north of $250 to $400 million annually.

Well, you can't do that at 16 because that's just a couple of more playoff games. And those playoff games would be with lower seeds and they won't command the dollars in the free market in order to generate the funds necessary to cancel the championship games. So what do you have to do? You have to generate more games. How do you generate more games? More teams. you get more teams into that window, and now you've got more games that you can sell.

Now you're selling eight to ten extra games, depending on the format. And now you can go recoup those dollars. And as truth be told, I've had conversations with a lot of people at the highest levels of the sport. I don't think the conferences are looking to break the bank with an expanded playoff. This is not about generating another billion dollars. That's false. What they're trying to do is recoup the dollars that they would, be losing the championship games.

I think a lot of these conference commissioners would sign off on an expansion to 24, even if they just broke even, because the gain of the definition of success for the middle of their conference would be available to them. And in their minds, that would mean more valuable games in the regular season, in particular late. Okay. So that's why you would have to go to 24 and not to 16. I can tell you right now, I'm going to go back.

now, I'm going to go back to your arguments right here at the start, the fans arguments, the devaluing of the regular season. You're not wrong for those concerns. And by the way, I shared them. I shared them with you going to 12. I would share them with you going to 24. And I think that the only answer to that on the other side would just be format, format. I think a lot of the regular season and the importance of the regular season, even for the top tier, teams, the one percenters, would be determinant based on the format. How many buys are there? How many home games are there? Because then at the end of the season, let's be real. If you could get a buy, you're going to play hard. If you can get a home game,

you're going to play hard. And so the way that the playoff is constructed can curb some of those fears of the late season give up or sitting players or devaluing the regular season. Now, the other side of this is that, and this is where it gets kind of convoluted, and I would say I do think that the coaches and ADs, in some ways, this is a kind of a sly move on their part, but it's a move that they're playing. What they're also saying is, hey, oh, by the way, if we go to 24, we're more willing to play tougher, more valuable, better non-conference games. and this is where you get the one percenters involved.

And they're saying to themselves like, hey, by the way, we love like Texas, Ohio State. Absolutely. Like give us more of that. Michigan, Oklahoma, give us more of that. But what we've seen in this offseason is that a lot of those games are going away. A lot of those games are being canceled because why in a selection-based model at 12? It doesn't behoove anybody to play those games. This is why Notre Dame is on board with this is because they would have a better opportunity to create a schedule.

Nobody wants to play Notre Dame right now. why would you want to play Notre Dame in the non-conference? That's why USC and Notre Dame aren't playing right now. That's why. And by the way, you hear like the talks like, oh, Notre Dame and USC are beginning talks to like maybe bring back that game. Guess why? Because they see on the horizon, maybe we're going to go to 24.

And if we go to 24, we would definitely play that game. Okay. So now you're seeing kind of like, I don't want to say, I have a word in my mind. I don't want to necessarily. They're being cunning in this argument. They're trying to use it as leverage in this argument. in order to get what they want, which is a more expanded playoff,

a more expanded definition of success. And what they're using is the leverage of non-conference opponents to do that. And everybody would want better non-conference opponents. So you could say we might have a better regular season. Now, I have my questions about that. So again, you're not wrong as a fan to be concerned about the devaluing of the regular season. I share those sentiments. I do think it depends on the format.

If your concern is it's not going to stop at 24, if it's not going to stop at 12, I don't know if I have an answer to that. I really don't. And I don't think that you're wrong in that regard. I really don't because what would stop them at 24? I don't know. And isn't 25 and 26 and 27 going to be crying for the same thing? We want to be defined as successful.

Yes, I think that that's the case. I do think if you go back through history and you look at the 70 to 80 programs that would have gone to a playoff in the last call it, you know, 11 or 12 years, now you might be thinking to yourself like, well, you know, they are getting a bite at that apple, so maybe that argument would go away. I'm not totally sure on that, but that's where we're at. Now, let's try to land this plane with just like, where are we? Joel, is this inevitable?

Is this absolutely going to happen? I can tell you right now, I don't know. I will say, though, I think it's moving in that direction because of the sentiment of the coaches and ADs, and they're likely going to get their presidents on board. And then there's this one little piece, one little piece. And I think this is the biggest piece of evidence that we're moving in that direction of an expansion to 24 is that the AFCA is really this panel, this board of eight very influential coaches in college football. One of those coaches is Kirby Smart.

So Kirby Smart is on board. and that's kind of like a smoke signal from the Pope from the conference that is against this and you've got the most successful, most influential coach and most prominent program right now, at least, in the SEC saying, hey, you know what, we're on board with this.

Because again, Greg Sankey works for the presidents. And if those presidents start to get on board with Georgia and Kirby Smart and their president, Then guess what? This would happen. Because all that matters, back to the beginning, is that the SEC and the Big Ten agree. And if they do, then it will move. Now, all I can say right now is, do I think it's inevitably going to happen? I don't know. I really don't. I don't know. All I know is that this sport has always changed. It has always morphed. conferences have always grown and gone away. We used to have the Southwest Conference and we used to have the Pack 8 and then it was the Pack 10 and then it was the Pack 12. gone. It was the pack two, and now it's the pack 12 again. And the big 10 was 10 and then 11 and then how many teams now, 18 teams in the big 10. College football has always changed. It's always

evolved and it's always going to continue to evolve. All right. We may have fallen in love with the sport at a given time and we may think nostalgically that that time was the absolute best. And you might be right. And you might be right. Now, I'm not saying that you're wrong, but this sports changes and it evolves. And we know that. This might be the direction that it goes and it might not. I'm not sure. But right now, it seems like it's heading in that direction. Those are the arguments as I see him and as I have the conversations with the highest people in power in this sport. That's what's going on right now in college football. You be the judge. What's up, Clashow fans? I don't know about you, but I'm always looking for the best deal on tickets. And it's

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