The Jordan Harbinger Show - 294: Should I Expose a Sexually Abusive Nephew? | Feedback Friday

Episode Date: December 27, 2019

You have a nephew who has a history of undressing, touching genitals, and dry humping smaller, weaker humans than himself. These humans either do not consent or are unable to consent. It's we...ll known in your family that he can't be left alone with children. There have been numerous incidents with different witnesses and victims spread out over the years. Today this nephew is 20 years old and expecting a baby with his live-in girlfriend. You were horrified and began asking if this girlfriend knew about his history. No one seems to know if she's aware, but are strongly agreed that it's not any of your places to tell her. But you fear that if you don't tell her, no one will. Taking it upon yourself, what's the best way to deliver the news? And in case you didn't already know it, Jordan Harbinger (@JordanHarbinger) and Jason DeFillippo (@jpdef) banter and take your comments and questions for Feedback Friday right here every week! If you want us to answer your question, register your feedback, or tell your story on one of our upcoming weekly Feedback Friday episodes, drop us a line at friday@jordanharbinger.com. Now let's dive in! Full show notes and resources can be found here: https://jordanharbinger.com/294. On This Week's Feedback Friday, We Discuss: Interested in doing some prison time with Jordan this February? It's filling up fast; reach out to prison@jordanharbinger.com for details! Your nephew has had a history of being sexually abusive, and now he has a kid of his own on the way. While the rest of your family wants to ignore the problem, how do you step up and tell the mother-to-be? As a frequent employee of the month, you recently negotiated a raise to your salary only to discover that you're making the same amount as someone who was recently hired and is already on probation for dropping the ball too many times. Should you say something? The Jordan Harbinger Show is banned in China, possibly for allowing guests to air anti-government opinions (and, to be fair, facts). Do Jordan and Jen ever worry about extended family who may still live there being in danger as a result? As your uncle's sole beneficiary, you were left with a house he wanted the family to enjoy after he passed. Your other family members feel they should be entitled to their fair share of what the house is worth, though they're happy enough to leave you holding the bag for the funeral, legal, bills, upkeep, and yard work. What should you do? Two months ago, you earned and accepted a job transfer within the company where you've worked for 14 years. Unfortunately, the department you're leaving is understaffed and overworked, and the status of your transfer has been postponed indefinitely. How can you continue to advocate for your transfer date without seeming like you have a bad attitude? Is it time to just find a new job? Life Pro Tip: Winter is in full force in many places, so be sure to keep a bag of cat litter (for traction under your tires if you get stuck in the snow), a shovel, a hat, gloves, a blanket or... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Welcome to Feedback Friday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger, and I'm here with producer Jason DeFilleboh. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's most brilliant and interesting people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. This week we had Zachary Dickwald talking about young China how the new generation of Chinese people, not businesses, not the Communist Party, et cetera, is going to reshape the world. And a lot of good news coming from that. So that's actually kind of a nice take on China instead of the usual, oh my gosh, we're all being oppressed by the communist machinery.
Starting point is 00:00:39 So I really enjoyed that conversation. That's available this week. I also write every so often on the blog. The latest post is about how to ask for advice. A lot of people have been sending advice requests and saying, how do I get advice? How do I get mentorship and all that? And there's a lot wrong with it. So we wrote a giant post on how to do it right.
Starting point is 00:00:58 That's at Jordan Harbinger.com slash articles. So make sure you've had a look and to listen to all of what we've created for you this week. Of course, our primary mission here on the Jordan Harbinger show is to pass along our guests and our own experiences and insights along to you. In other words, the real purpose of the show is to have conversations directly with you. That's what we're going to do today and every Friday here on Feedback Friday. Just want to place one brick in the structure that makes up your life. That's what this podcast is really all about.
Starting point is 00:01:27 You can reach us Friday at Jordan Harbinger.com. As all of you probably know by now, we're going to prison. February 26, 2020, that's my birthday, my 40th birthday. We're going to a maximum security facility. We're going to be working with the inmates in an educational program. I would love for you to join me. It's going to be about 895, so 900 plus travel and travel and hotel. The hotel's literally 50 bucks a night. So come join us. We're going to be outside of Reno, Nevada, and it's a blast. It's going to be awesome. I'm bringing some amazing folks, including dozens and dozens and dozens of you. There are still spots open, and it's just going to be a life-changing experience. I've done it before. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:02:05 If you want to join us, email me. Prison atjordanharbinger.com. We'll get you on the interest list, gets your details, and get you signed up. Jason, what's the first thing out of the mailbag? Dear Jordan and team, greetings from the rainy Mendocino Forest. I have a nephew who has a history of undressing, touching genitals, and dry-humping, smaller, weaker humans than himself. These humans either do not consent or are unable to consent. It's well known in my family that he can't be left alone with children. There have been numerous incidents with different witnesses and victims spread out over the years. We're not close. He still lives with my brother and his wife. Today, this nephew is 20 years old and expecting a baby with his live-in girlfriend. I was horrified
Starting point is 00:02:51 and began asking if this girlfriend knew about his history. No one seems to know if she's aware, but are strongly agreed that it's not any of our places to tell her. I fear that if I don't tell her, no one will. If I do tell her, what's the best way to deliver the news? They're going to want to shoot the messenger. Sincerely, Mendicino, mother of two. Okay, this is an icky one, and I'm really sorry to hear that you are in this situation. This is really, really disgusting and horrible, and nobody is going to be,
Starting point is 00:03:21 there's kind of no good happening as a result of this, no matter what happens, right? From the sound of it, it sounds like he was maybe sexually assaulted as a child, and it sounds like your family is the kind of family that buries their heads in the sand. Oh, it's not our place to tell her. Are you kidding me? Of course it is. Don't leave this guy alone with children. Oh, he's having his own child. Cool.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Let's just not do anything about that. Let's just not tell anyone about that. I mean, that to me is just madness. Wow. Undressing and running around naked as a kid, fine. Wrestling around and grabbing people's wangs as a kid, normal for the most part. stripping other people down who are younger than you and pretending or not pretending to rape them and groping them without consent, that is not normal when done repeatedly, that is sexual assault,
Starting point is 00:04:03 when done anytime it's sexual assault. When done repeatedly, it's a pattern of sexual assault. Now, I hear the guy's 20 years old. He's got a major, major problem here. This is criminal sexual assault, and it's a huge issue with somebody having a kid. This is not like a young preteen who is going through some impulse issues or something like that that also is bad and needs to get under control. This is actual criminal behavior. I'm going to set aside that he's 20 and having a baby with a girlfriend while still living with his parents, which to me as a parent sounds like a terrible freaking idea in the first place. And I don't want to be judgy here, Mendocino, mother of two, but that does not sound like a group of winners. I don't want to be a jerk here, but it sounds like a
Starting point is 00:04:41 whole mess of people with bad judgment that are just increasingly showing their bad judgment with not saying anything about this awful situation. Again, that's a different issue. You're not asking my opinion on that. Here's the thing, Ms. Mendo, some secrets are just too dangerous to be kept, and this is one of them. I personally find it appalling that the entire family knows about this and hasn't done anything about it. This is a classic family skeleton that, to me, indicates that your nephew has also been sexually abused in the past, most likely. I mean, this is traumatic behavior that seems to be repeating. When kids act like this, that's often them reenacting something that's traumatic that happened to them as a child. Not always, but often enough. And it seems like maybe you
Starting point is 00:05:23 know this because you kind of hinted at this at the end of the letter. Again, this is tough. The family is going to be mad at you if you do anything. They are. Just expected. And in a way, it's quote unquote, none of your business, but I disagree with that. Here's the thing. 100%. Yeah. Totally 100% disagree with that. Sure. It's actually the family's business and they should have handled it, but they haven't. So now it's everyone's business because I don't give a crap if it's none of my business. If I saw a child being abused by parents in a public place, I would say something, even if it would cause a scene, because my duty as a human being is to this defenseless child not into keeping the peace and making sure everybody has a nice Christmas and doesn't say anything. I think a lot of families don't realize this.
Starting point is 00:06:04 When everyone's keeping the peace, the person who suffers the most is the victim. They're quietly suffering because everyone else is acting like it's normal. It might seem like, oh, everyone's just getting along and we're not saying anything. That person is dying inside and resenting everyone else because they're not being protected. Would your family protect that baby, that child, if someone came up at the mall and was slapping him, spitting on him, pinching him? Of course, you would do something about that. But if he's being sexually assaulted by his father, oh, don't say anything. It's going to be weird. I mean, we don't know that this is going to happen to his own kid, but what are the odds? Kind of do. He's got a pattern and I'll get to that. Look,
Starting point is 00:06:43 if everyone's mad at you, I get it. They're wrong. They're wrong to be mad. They're just being weak, in my opinion. And I think they're being crappy for not taking a stand when they know something is wrong and they're just looking the other way. Your duty is to the child's safety and to their integrity and personal safety as a human being, a little human being that can't defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Your responsibility is not to everyone else's feelings or wanting to keep the peace in the family. The girlfriend, if you tell her, she will likely say something to him to the rest of the family, but she's going to get talked out of believing you. Because just put yourself in her shoes. You live with this guy. You live with his parents. You're pregnant with his baby.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You're probably 2019, 21 years old, whatever. Who are you going to believe? That said, she needs to know because she needs to have that info to protect her child born or unborn. And she might be strong enough to make a different decision. But at the very least, that bug needs to be in her ear. Even if she does nothing with the info, she needs to be like, ooh, I better watch my husband for this because if I see that, it's going to be doing.
Starting point is 00:07:43 different, that will make it that much harder for her to put her head in the sand. The problem is, you know, he might end up abusing that child before anything happens, and that's horrifying. If nobody says anything and he abuses that child, then every single person in your family shares blame for not warning the mother, in my opinion. Yourself included, I'm sorry, but it's true. If you say something and nothing ever happens, yeah, he's annoyed of you, he hates Aunt Mendocino, whatever, but you've aired on the side of protecting an innocent child. And I want to note here that Not all of those who are abused go on to abuse others, just to be clear. But that said, what we do know is that he has already abused others, can't be left alone with
Starting point is 00:08:22 children, and that the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. So we don't know if he was abused, just that he abuses others. We're not guessing that it's going to happen. He already abuses others. It's like, if somebody's fighting at work, they're fighting at bars, they're fighting on the subway, they fight in the street, what do you think they do when they go home to their wife and family? You think they're a nice, charming guy who can control their anger? No, this is what domestic violence happens.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Honestly, he needs to address these issues with a therapist if he's going to be a parent. In fact, he needs to address these issues regardless of what he ends up doing. If he was abused and the rest of the family put their heads in the sand about this, just like they're doing now, then there's a good chance that he's never dealt with any trauma that he's suffered. I bet you, if you dug deep enough, you'd find that everybody knew about him getting abused by someone else, an uncle or his father or something like that. I'm sorry, I know that you're related to him.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I know that's your brother. Something happened to him, and maybe they know, and they just went, we don't want to make a scene about it because it was grandpa or something like that. And again, I'm sorry, I know this is your family. And I'm not saying that your warning's going to do anything, but if I were in your shoes, I would not be able to sleep at night if I didn't say something. I'd start by bringing it up to your brother and see if you can rally the family around you. I'm thinking, fat chance, but give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:09:36 If you can't, you may need to do this on your own. and yes, you will pay for this. Will your extended family hate you for it? Maybe. But sometimes doing the right thing means pissing off people who are afraid to do the right thing for themselves. Oh, Jason, what's next?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Hey, Jordan and team, I'm in a bit of a pickle. I'm 27 and have been with the same company for a little over two years and recently received a promotion. I'm now managing a team for the first time and it's been rewarding so far. I was super excited about the raise that came with a new position.
Starting point is 00:10:08 My new boss originally told me what my new salary and bump in bonus structure would be, with which I replied, is there room for negotiation? The chain of command approved my additional ask, and all was well for a while. Our company recently started using a different HR platform, and now that I'm the manager of a team, I'm able to see my direct reports compensation. Normally, this wouldn't bother me. I'm comfortable with my compensation, and I make what I consider to be a great living at my age. I also work remotely, so the state that my family and I live in is very affordable. My salary and bonus structure with this company wouldn't come regularly with other companies in my area.
Starting point is 00:10:44 The struggle came when I saw that my base salary is the same as a new team member who was hired at the junior level several months ago. Again, no biggie. However, this guy was recently put on a performance plan and has been dropping the ball several times. I have a great reputation with the company, have won awards for our equivalent of employee of the month, and haven't missed any deadlines or dropped the ball since I've been here. I log on most days at 7.30 a.m. and work till 4.30 or 5. I brought my concerns to my manager and told him it wasn't fair for me to request a raise at this point because I fairly negotiated my salary upon the promotion. However, I was clear that I felt like I was being asked to carry much more weight and responsibility than other team members and that it was bothering me.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Did I mess up here? I'm confident I could express these concerns to some of my boss's bosses and they'd support me. However, my new boss is new to the company and he has a much different management style than the other leaders. I definitely feel like he could use this against me rather than feel. feeling like I was just being upfront with them. I get approached by recruiters in my industry all the time, and even from some local contacts and companies. Would another offer be ideal or applicable to this scenario?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Thanks for any advice. Best, too big of a burden. This is a tough situation for sure. The truth is that comparing yourself to another employee is actually never a good idea. Different employees come in at different times with different budget cycles, company, cash positions might be different relative demand and supply. curve in the labor market are going to be different. There's differing intrinsic competition for that specific hire, and the list goes on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Plus, hearing what someone else in close proximity makes can be really hurtful, regardless of the magnitude or direction of the delta, right? So if you hear somebody makes a lot less, that's not good for you. If you hear they make a lot more, as here, that's not good for you. If you hear they make the same, which is what we're dealing with in this question, that's not good either. So it's just no good. If you do negotiate, don't bring up the other person's salary as a justification for an adjustment unless absolutely necessary.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It just makes it personal for too many people. It's going to end up being a problem because it's also not a strong argument. This other person makes more and I should make more based on what? I've been here longer. No. Well, I'm higher in the food chain. So what? You know, it's just not a strong argument.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You don't want to really go there. The issue is that you're both right. you and your boss are both right, because a few things are true. One, you negotiated your salary and had the opportunity to get something higher if you were fully informed, but you weren't, right? Two, your salary is likely below market, which is why people junior to you are making the same amount of money, which ends up being more in a relative sense because you're further up in the food chain, you should theoretically be making more. So my recommended course of action is the following. One, start finding out what the market will pay you. Recruiters can do a lot of,
Starting point is 00:13:35 of this work for you. Entertain their ideas, take their calls. You said they're already calling you. Definitely play along with that, you know, go along with that. Two, if you would really leave for another company, do some interviews and get a written offer in hand. Always get offers in writing, otherwise they aren't worth squat. If you won't really leave, don't waste another company's time,
Starting point is 00:13:55 getting another offer, just use the information from the recruiters to negotiate your salary again in a year, and make sure that you're seeding the idea of an appropriate raise with your. current manager starting immediately and going all the way through until your next evaluation. So you want to make sure that they know, hey, I'm going to be asking for this. I'm going to be asking for this. I'm going to be asking for this.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Make sure that you're specific. Don't just say I'm going to ask for a raise next time. You want to be like, look, I know that I screwed up this. I should be moved to XYZ when I do my next evaluation. If you don't cede this in advance, what happens is you'll go in for your evaluation. They'll say, well, first we've heard of it. They'll make excuses. they'll stall. This happens all the time. Oh, we got to run it up the flagpole. Oh, it's going to take a
Starting point is 00:14:38 couple months, but I'm on it. If you seed it and you go in there and you say, is this ready? I told you I'd be asking for this. And they go, well, we can't really do that. You can negotiate and get to where you need to be. And if not, you can say, okay, well, in that case, I guess I'm going to have to figure out what else is on the table because the market seems to support this. And hopefully you have other options because you've networked with these recruiters. You've gone and done informational interviews with these other companies and you can go and get another offer and you can leave if they're not going to be fair to you. If you do get another offer in writing from another company, let your boss know you'll be leaving for another company soon and then take that offer and go. Not, hey, I'm going to leave.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You don't match it. Look, they might try to retain you, but unless they knock it out of the park with your new salary and bonus, like, look, I know that you got an offer for X from our competitor. I'm going to give you X plus and your bonus is going to be X bonus plus because we really do appreciate you. We want to get you back up to market and we want to have you stay here because we don't want to have to replace you. That's good. But if they're just like, oh, we'll match it. If you stay just because they match, your manager is going to become a huge pain.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He's going to resist cooperating in the future potentially. And like, it could happen anyway. But you don't want them to just match what you got offered from someplace else just to keep you. They'll be doing it begrudgingly. What you want is for them to actually want to pay you what you are worth. In cases like this, it's usually better to go elsewhere and then negotiate properly for your salary from the get-go. Starting fresh and starting properly is always easier than fixing the earlier problem or the earlier deficiency. That's really important.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Starting fresh, negotiating properly, it's always easier than fixing an earlier problem where deficiency. So if you start off and you get $50,000 a year, which is what you're worth, and then you get a bonus of five grand, that's going to be easier than, all right, I'm at 39 now, but I really should be making 50. Let me go in and ask for an $11,000 raise. They're going to be like, whoa, that's a X percent. That's too much.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You're going to get 41, and then you're negotiating for the next five years to get where you should be now. No, just hit the reset button and go somewhere else. This is a hard thing to do, but it's a very good lesson in why you should always, always find what the market will bear before you accept an offer, do your research, and always, always, always, always negotiate your salary every single time. Negotiate early, negotiate often. And we're going to be doing a negotiation course here in 2020 with some amazing experts. So keep an eye out for that. But in the meantime,
Starting point is 00:17:12 feel free to send us your negotiation questions because we are on it. This is Feedback Friday. We'll be right back after this. Thanks for listening and supporting the show. To learn more about our sponsors and get links to all the great discounts you just heard, please visit you visit. at Jordan Harbinger.com slash deals. And if you'd be so kind, please drop us a nice rating and review in iTunes or your podcast player of choice. It really helps us out and helps build the show family.
Starting point is 00:17:38 If you want some tips on how to do that, head on over to Jordan Harbinger.com slash subscribe. Now let's hear some more of your questions here on Feedback Friday. All right, Jason, what else we got? Hey, Jordan and team, do you think your podcast is banned in China because of your show with Robert Spalding? And worse, do you worry that China has targeted any extended? family Jen has there because of their connection to you. I'm not saying you shouldn't have aired the
Starting point is 00:18:04 interview or advertised Spalding's book. Quite the opposite. But I wonder if you have any misgivings or information about potential ramifications. Thanks. We should all know about this stuff. And thanks so much for your work. Signed Chinese Curious. Interesting question. Not a typical feedback Friday question, but I decided to address it because a lot of people have been writing it and saying, hey, you know you're banned in China. Hey, you guys are banned in China. Hey, why are you guys banned in China? We always been banned in China? We've been banned in China for years now, actually.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yes, years. And the reason we are banned in China is kind of a mystery, but I have a feeling that it's because we do talk about China occasionally. But we got banned well before I started even taking any issue with China at all as a nation. And what's weird is I'm not bashing China. I'm merely interviewing experts, but that's what they do is they'll ban anything that looks like anti-Chinese journalism. It's automated, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:18:58 you do need a VPN, a virtual private network in China to access the show. So a lot of our Chinese fans, they use a VPN and the other Chinese fans, I think, are outside China, so they're listening that way, and they're just using the Chinese music store. I think it's in part because of things like the Spalding episode, but man, we were banned for a long time. All the shows I've done as a host, every podcast I've ever done, I think, has been banned in China. Even when I was working in business shows and just hosting random stuff for like Forbes, that stuff got banned in China. And I think in part it's because I do let people speak about these sorts of topics. Fortunately, many Chinese fans or people living in China that aren't Chinese, they still access
Starting point is 00:19:38 the show. Jen doesn't have any family left in China. They all fled ahead of the communists because they were well-to-do. So judges, government officials, intellectuals, these are people that would have been targeted and maybe even died in re-education camps. So I'm actually doubling down on letting people tell the truth about the U.S. and China and anywhere else because truth is more important than political affiliation when it comes to world events and in making educated decisions in a democracy like the one we live in. I'm a fan of China, generally speaking. I'm a fan of the Chinese people for sure. I think there's some of the best people that the world has to offer. I think there's a lot of problems with the current regime and personal freedoms and things like that. But I love China. I love
Starting point is 00:20:20 Chinese people. I'm learning Chinese language, as you all know. I think. there's so much potential there, and we've seen just a sliver of what China can do on the world stage so far. I'm just not a fan of censorship, especially when the censorship is because the ideas might hurt a specific political party, like the Chinese Communist Party, which is controlled by a smaller group of elites, just like every political party is. So I don't worry about this. I'm not anti-China. Far from it. I'm anti-censorship. I'm anti-oppression. I'm anti-tirity. And so are many Chinese people living in China and outside of it. So I sleep pretty well at night over here, knowing that I think we're on the right side of history with this one. And according to Zach Dextwald, our guest from this
Starting point is 00:21:01 week, China is ready to move on up. And the young people, I think, are just as sick of the bologna that their government is putting on them as we all are. So I think there's going to be some amazing cooperation between China and the rest of the world in the near future, hopefully the near future, but certainly in the future and while we're still alive. So I think it's an exciting time. And it's a bummer that were banned in China, but the beauty of being banned in China is people in China all know the score with the Internet, and they all use VPN. So it's really not that big of a deal right now. All right, next up. Jordan and Jason, my uncle slash godfather recently passed and I was named the sole beneficiary. He lived a pretty simple life. He was never married and had no kids,
Starting point is 00:21:42 but he did leave a small house on 25 acres on a river along with a modest bank account. He initially had my father named as the primary beneficiary, with me. as the second, but after my father passed, he changed his will, naming me as the primary, and my only brother as the secondary. My uncle had been in and out of the hospital the past few years, and during one of my visits with him, he shared I was the beneficiary and told me that it was his wish to keep this coveted piece of property in the family for all to use. He also shared that the reason he didn't name his only remaining sibling, the beneficiary, was because he was worried that he would immediately turn around and sell the house and quickly
Starting point is 00:22:21 spend and lose everything. My uncle and his remaining sibling have a long history of bad decisions. The day of the funeral, I started to get pressure from my mother and brother to go through the legal process to split everything 50-50 between myself and my brother. Their argument is that they each had conversations with my uncle in the past, and they were told that when he passes, he's leaving his place to the boys, meaning my brother and me. My wife and my initial stance was that no big decision will be made while the estate is in probate. During that, four-month period, my wife and I turned this situation inside out, asked advice for many people, and tried to make sure to be as thoughtful as possible. As time went on, my mother and brother
Starting point is 00:23:01 became increasingly aggravated because I wouldn't agree one way or the other to put half in his name. A few weeks before probate was over, my brother blew up and sent me a nasty text, calling me greedy and ending by saying that he's out and not talking to me anymore. The decision was made and an email was sent out saying, we feel it's in the best interest to keep everything in one name the way my uncle drew up the will. There are many legal, tax, and other financial reasons to make that choice. I believe he was a smart and very thoughtful person, and this was a decision that wasn't taken lightly. He left us this special and unique place as his legacy for everyone to remember him by. I think he wanted this property to be used and enjoyed by his family and friends.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I feel I was tasked with the role of steward to honor this wish, and will do my best to fulfill that role. No one is going to live there full time. It will be there for everyone to use, and the money in his estate account will be used for future bills and upkeep. Since his passing, all funeral, legal, bills, upkeep, yard work have all been on my shoulders without any offers for help or any thank yous. It's an hour drive from where I live, and all these responsibilities have been the equivalent of a full-time job. I've tried to be as fair and level-headed as possible, but it makes me sad that the situation went off the rails before probate was even over. Any thoughts and advice is appreciated, signed beneficiary without benefits. Man, I am so sorry to hear this. It's interesting how when
Starting point is 00:24:31 someone passes, they often think they're doing everyone a big favor by leaving money to the family, but they're really dumping a massive burden on folks a lot of the time, especially if they don't involve the whole family in the decision. Right, because they'll write a will and they're like, hey, Karen, I'm giving you all the money and I'm putting it in trust for you and Tom because Tom's an idiot. Bye. And then like Karen's got to explain why she's the one in the will controlling the money and that dad really wanted that. And everyone's like, no, you're just being a bitch, Karen. It's not good. So normally these types of decisions, they're just not so cut and dry. But in this case, I feel pretty safe saying that your family's being unfair about this.
Starting point is 00:25:09 First of all, if the property is for everyone, then who cares who owns it? It's completely irrelevant who owns it if it's not going to be sold and it's quote unquote for everyone, for the boys or whatever. What does your brother even want to do with the property if he can't sell it, especially if he can use it right now? Who cares, who owns it if he's allowed to use it now and he's not going to sell it? What's the deal? And what does your mom want you to do that can't be done with the property right now?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh, it's for the boys. Okay, great. Come over and use it whenever you want. mom, you can come over too. No, no, we want to put it in your brother's name also. Why? Just why? Honestly, as much as it was your godfather, uncle's wish to split the property and have everyone enjoy it, that's just not what's happening here. I would consider a few things. One, put the property in a trust and have the money take care of the upkeep. In fact, he probably should have done this with his will, but he trusted you more than the legal system. You are under zero obligation
Starting point is 00:26:07 to drive an hour, mow the lawn, pay the bills, clean the place up, make sure the mail's taken in. You can hire people to take care of that if there's enough money in the trust. I would actually have all of the mail forwarded to your home so that at least that's not piling up, and I would hire a landscape company to just mow the lawn. That's it. Have everything sent to you. Number two, realize that if you had to handle the funeral and the estate with no help, that not only are you not being greedy, but it's abundantly clear.
Starting point is 00:26:37 that it's actually the family that's being really self-centered and greedy. They're disregarding your uncle's wishes in order to get something for themselves, and they weren't willing to help while he was passing away, and they're not willing to lift a finger to do anything to manage the property. That is kind of the definition of them being greedy. Of course, it's always people who are greedy that label others as greedy. You ever notice that, Jason, it's always people who want something for themselves, like, you're being greedy by not giving me a bunch of money I didn't earn
Starting point is 00:27:04 so that I can spend it in a way that the person who actually did earn it didn't want me to do. Oh, absolutely. But you're greedy now because of that. Yep, that's the way they roll, man. You got to watch out for that. Exactly. Yeah, they knew that that would trigger an emotional thing in you because you're not greedy. So they think, oh, calling him greedy, we'll get him to do what he needs to do.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And your brother being like, I'm never talking to you again. Like, how nice is this lakehouse, dude? Seriously. Yeah. If I were in his shoes, I would let it go. But he can't because he's actually greedy. In light of this, realize that you're in a thankless position. Will you use the property? If so, great. Go ahead, use it, but you're probably not going to enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:27:40 knowing what the cost is. If not, consider selling the property or part of the property, and then put the money in a trust to take care of the part you haven't sold. In other words, you could split the lot, you could sell the house that's on the lot. It's an hour away. Split the lot and keep a boat dock in a freaking fishing platform or something in the lake off of the piece of the lot that you have. alternatively sell the property, start a charitable foundation for something worthwhile, or simply donate the funds. Last, if you think it's fair, sell the property and give half the money to your brother. It's not going to make anyone happy.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He's still going to be pissed off that he didn't get to control the house and keep it and whatever. It probably won't even make anyone happy, but then at least it's out of your hands. Wash your hands of this whole thing. My mom had to do that. I think I talked about this last week or the week before. She had a bunch of stuff she inherited and everybody was so busy fighting over it. She's like, fine, I'm selling it, and I'm giving you the money. And everyone was still pissed, and she was just like, you already have the money. Go fly a kite. I'm out. I'm done. And they were like, why'd you sell it? Such a waste? Could have got more for it. Go F yourself, everyone. You might even want to rent out the property to somebody long term with maybe a handshake understanding that you might come up there and fish or have your kids swim in the lake or something along those lines. That way, there's somebody there to take care of the property and actually cares about it. They'll cover the expenses because they're renting it out. But you still get the benefit of being able to use the lake should you actually care to do something.
Starting point is 00:28:58 then you still own the property, right? And the key here, look, nobody has a right to bully you into doing something with the property. This is not their choice, and all the guilt and all the sulking in the world isn't going to change that. By the way, this wasn't your choice. That's the key here. You're not being greedy.
Starting point is 00:29:16 This was not your choice. This was what was in the will. You're respecting a dead man's wishes. If you wanted everyone to have it, he would have written that down, not just mentioned it offhand to your mom, who, by the way, sounds a little manipulative in this case, he probably said it's for the boys
Starting point is 00:29:31 because he didn't want to start a friggin fight on his deathbed with your mom. I actually find it disgusting that your brother is having a tantrum over this and that your parents are enabling this sort of crap. Honestly, it sounds like there's a bigger issue between your brother and the family, and that might be the real issue here. This is pure speculation, but if I had to guess, I would say your brother does this a lot, where when he doesn't get his way, he sulks and your mom enables it,
Starting point is 00:29:55 because I would never act this. way if I were him in his shoes. And my mom would not do that. So it sounds like there's maybe a history of your brother whining when he doesn't get his way, when he doesn't get what he thinks he's entitled to, and then your mom backing him up for whatever reason. That's the real issue. Forget the house. Why does your brother think it's okay to cut you off because he wasn't chosen by your dead uncle to manage the property after he died? And why does your mother think it's okay to enable his man-child attitude? That's the real question we should be asking here. We'll be right back with more feedback Friday right after this.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Thank you for supporting the show. Your support of our advertisers keeps us on the air. To learn more and get links to all the great discounts you just heard, visitjordanharbinger.com slash deals. Now back to the show for the conclusion of Feedback Friday. All right. Last but not least. Hello, everyone. Two months ago, I earned and accepted a job transfer within my company. It wasn't a popular decision with my peers.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm leaving a loan processing position for a facility's maintenance position. I chose this because I'm more natural at it, and I really enjoy that type of work more than sitting at a desk all day pushing paperwork. The department I was leaving is understaffed and overworked. I look up to and respect my manager. I told her I'm willing to be flexible with my transfer date to allow my replacement to be hired and start training. During the time I was waiting for a firm transfer date, the VP of the department I'm moving to was let go, and my current VP temporarily took over the maintenance department. A week later, my VP called me in to speak with her,
Starting point is 00:31:32 and she informed me that my transfer had been postponed indefinitely. This hit me hard, but I'm trying to power through until I can get a transfer date. That meeting happened in mid-November, and I still haven't heard any updates. I've invested 14 years of my life in this company, and don't want to throw all of that away. What are ways I can continue to advocate for my transfer date without seeming like I have a bad attitude? I have great benefits because of the years I've worked here, but is it time to cut those losses and move on to a new company? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Signed, Stuck in Loan Processing Limbo. Well, we don't have full information here, as we seldom do, but it sounds like your previous vice president, your VP, is either blocking your move because she doesn't want to lose you from her work unit, or blocking your move to spite you, or blocking your move because it was not going to be a good move in the first place and the other VP should never have made that decision at all. Is there anyone else that you can speak to about why you'd like to move?
Starting point is 00:32:29 What I would do in your shoes is follow up every month or so, or even every two weeks, whatever you think is appropriate, with the current VP. Do it in writing, by the way, and do it in person so that she can't just ignore your email, but also you want the email so that there's a record of you asking so that if it ever gets to HR or goes above her head, you have a record of asking, and she's not like,
Starting point is 00:32:48 I didn't even know. Do it in writing, do it in person, and always keep things cordial, of course, but make sure that you're keeping the plate spinning. In the meantime, look for another job in the niche that you actually want to work in, in your field, I mean. Sure, you've got 14 years with this company, but it's not like when you leave,
Starting point is 00:33:05 you've got to start over when you make a move. In fact, much of the time when you change companies or positions, you're doing so because you're getting a raise, because you're getting better benefits or a better working environment or work you want to do more than where you were last time. Use your existing position to see what the market has in terms of other opportunities.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Use the offer that you did have, the one that they're now reneging on, to find something similar or better at another company. One reason they may be keeping you from moving is because they figure, oh, we're never going to lose him. He's been here 14 years. He doesn't have any other job prospects.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You don't know what they're thinking. Find some other opportunities and negotiate what you want. You always should negotiate this. Your company doesn't seem like they're as interested in keeping you happy, but we don't know why. You need to find out why.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Maybe it's time to find a company that is interested in keeping you happy. Worst case, you find out what other opportunities are out there, what the market will bear, and then your current company decides to retain you. Great. But at least you'll have leverage to go out and get what you want or move on if you have to. I'm sorry to hear about this, but in the end, it may just be that your current VP is overwhelmed. She's managing two departments. She doesn't want more moving parts and somebody new to train in a new department.
Starting point is 00:34:18 see how you can potentially help with the transition, both hers and yours, and this will show that you're not only interested in a new position, but you're also interested in being of value to your boss and to the company itself. If they don't want to make good employees happy after that, then it's no longer a good place to work, but give them a chance to say their peace and buy some time if needed since other things are in flux. Just don't ignore the problem until you resent them and you can't stand clocking in every day. That would be a big loss for you and for them. Life Pro Tip, hey, it's really cold out there in some places. Make sure that in your car in the trunk, you've got a hat, gloves, a shovel, a bag of cat litter, and a blanket or two. These items can literally save your life in the wintertime.
Starting point is 00:35:05 If you get stuck, you need to be able to dig out. You need to be able to get out of ice. You need to be able to get out of a ditch. You need to be able to stay warm for a long time. And hat and gloves, of course, if you're digging, you're outside, you're digging out snow. Blankets for when you might need to stay in your car for an extended period of time, waiting for someone to help tow you or get you out. And if you got kids or guests in your car, you want them under a separate blanket, instead of having a blanket draped over two seats where you can't stay warm. So keep that stuff in your trunk. Trust me, this can be something that can make or break a survival situation in the wintertime. I should have given this tip earlier, but better late than never. And definitely have
Starting point is 00:35:43 extra, like, you know, bars and food and things like that. A friend of mine was caught in a winter storm and unfortunately died, but he kept his family alive for seven days. His name was James Kim. He was on Tech TV, and he burned the tires of the car to keep the family warm. He had everything. He did everything right except one thing. He left the scene. He went to go find help. And as they found him, Unfortunately, dead in a river from hypothermia, his family was rescued. So he should have stayed put. So definitely stay with your family. If, you know, something goes wrong and you're trapped somewhere, everybody stay together.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Remember, those tires will keep you warm for a very long time. You can pull them off and you can burn them and it's very easy to do, but have lots and lots of like protein bars or energy drinks or whatever you have that you can do to like, you know, sustain you for a week. he kept his family alive for a week by just having the essentials that Jordan just mentioned. It's really important. When you're stuck in one of those situations where you can get snowed in, just pay very specific attention to it.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And the cat litter, yes, that's for getting your car out of a rut. Because most people don't like, why did you say cat litter, Jordan? And they're like, oh, you put the cat litter under the tires, it melts the snow, and then you can get out of a ditch kind of thing. Pay attention to this if you are in an area where you can get snowed in or possibly run off the road in the snow because this will save your life. Yeah, I'm sure. What a terrible situation. How long was he trapped for? Seven days. Oh, God. What a mess.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Like literally, he went off and he left the car. Everybody was fine. He went to go find help. And he just, they found him in a creek, you know, not too far away. And he just succumbed to hypothermia because he didn't stay with his family. And his family was rescued. It sucked. So, man. My roommate was the first cameraman at Tech TV, Joey. Kevin lived up the block, and we were all just like, you couldn't believe how much we were worried for them. Actually, they found the family because of the cell phone signals. Yeah, makes sense. Recommendation of the week, Jason, this one is all you, man.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Ah, it's called Don't F with Cats. Hunting an Internet Killer. This is an amazing documentary on Netflix. It's only three episodes. Clock's in at about three and a half hours. But what it is is this guy started posting videos of him literally killing cats online. It was horrific. And I'm going to tell you, when I watched this, I had my hand in front of my face for a good bit of the show because they do show part of it.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They don't show any of the cats actually dying. But what it turned into was a hunt for somebody who was going to turn into a serial killer. And it is a fascinating story. You hear a lot about, you know, how the internet vigilante mobs get things wrong. This is one where they got it absolutely right. They nailed this guy. They knew who he was and police didn't listen to him. And if the police had listened to him, you know, maybe things would have been different.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But you have to check this out. Yeah, don't F with cats. Hunting an Internet killer on Netflix. We'll list it in the show notes, but it is a terrifying and fascinating video to watch because there's a twist at the end that you're just going to go, what, what? What? Oh, yeah. And, oh, man, this guy's evil. He's evil. What a gross situation that is. I mean, I can't believe YouTube, I mean, they obviously removed those videos, right, of him doing that? They were there for a long
Starting point is 00:39:09 time and they were on other websites as well. Oh, wow. Yeah. What an obvious red flag that stuff is. Here's the one thing that I was screaming at the TV for. This guy is posting these videos. These guys are doing everything that they can. They're doing forensic analysis on everything in the room. They're looking at the plugs, like are these North American plugs or these European plugs, trying to figure out where this guy is. But you know what it would have taken? He would have taken a phone call to YouTube and Google saying, hey, what's the IP address where this video was posted from? And, you know, the Internet service providers should have been able to just hand that to him and say, hey, look, okay, this guy's in North America and this spot, and then we can go from there because
Starting point is 00:39:49 he probably didn't use a VPN. You know, and even if he used a VPN, then they could have at least canceled that out, but there are a lot of things that people did wrong in here, and a lot of things people did write. This is a story from 2012. This isn't a new story, but I mean, I've never heard of it, and I'm on the internet every damn day. So I highly recommend checking it out, because I was just like, my jaw was on the floor for half this thing. Wow, yeah, I definitely want to check that out. It's added to my list of disturbing stuff to watch this holiday season. That's how we do it, man. That's how we do it. Hope you all enjoyed that. I want to thank everyone that road in this week. If you want to go to prison with us, February 26, 2020, it is outside Reno Nevada.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Send me an email prison at jordanharbinger.com to get some details or get added to the list. A link to the show notes for this episode can be found at jordanharbinger.com as well. Congrats to Megan in the Air National Guard. She was the one who wrote in a long time ago about how she was too short to fly after she qualified as a pilot. Oh yeah, I remember that one. Yeah, so she can fly again. No way. Yeah. She went and got waivers on all of the stuff and it finally, finally, finally came through. She's able to fly again. So that's the good news.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, good for her, man. That's a really happy ending. It really is. That was a whole kind of heartbreaking mess and you just couldn't help but feel the pain through the email. But yeah, she's ready to get back in the cockpit. That's amazing. That is so awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Thank you, Megan, for writing back in and following up because, I mean, that was one of those ones. I was just so mad when I was reading that. I know. And I was just like, oh, this just sucks. She can't follow her dreams, but now she can at least fly again. So that's great. Yeah, she was so sad, so depressed.
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