The Jordan Harbinger Show - 426: Anthony S. Luciano Raimondi | The Mob Enforcer Part Two

Episode Date: November 5, 2020

Anthony S. Luciano Raimondi was born into the world of organized crime, spent much of his life as a mob enforcer, has played part in heists and assassinations, and is the author of When the Bullet Hits the Bone. This is part two of a two-part episode. Check out part one here! What We Discuss with Anthony S. Luciano Raimondi: The joke Anthony told to distract the bodyguard of an African drug lord he was sent to dispose of in Nigeria. How young Anthony came to the startling discovery that his father wasn't a longshoreman, but an assassin in the mob. Why Anthony likes animals a lot more than he likes people. What happened to people in Anthony's organization who unwisely brought attention to their part in the infamous Lufthansa heist by overspending. The code by which Anthony lived, the lines even he would never cross in his business, and why he left that world behind. And much more... Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/426 Sign up for Six-Minute Networking -- our free networking and relationship development mini course -- at jordanharbinger.com/course! Like this show? Please leave us a review here -- even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Coming up on the Jordan Harbinger show. This guy starts laughing. He bent over. I pulled out that gun, I caught him right in the back of the head. Boom, before anybody knew what happened. I popped him. I just popped this guy. This guy's grabbing me around the neck.

I put the gun to him. I had to put the gun in this hand. I'm fighting with him because he started choking me. I hit him five times. This guy didn't budge. The only thing he did, when I hit him the sixth time, I must have hit someone. He went back.

I put four more in his head and he was still breathing. Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people. If you're new to the show, we have in-depth conversations with people at the top of their game, astronauts and entrepreneurs, spies and psychologists, and even the occasional mafia enforcer.

And that's what we're doing today. This is part two with Anthony Salvatore Luciano Romondi, the Enforcer. Now, each episode of this show turns our guest's wisdom into practical advice you can use to build a deeper understanding of how the world works and become a better critical thinker. This is not going to be as instructional as the rest. By the way, this is part two. If you haven't heard part one, you've got to go back and check that out so you're caught up with us here. You don't want to just jump in the middle because you're missing out. Trust me, this guy is next level amazing. And if you're wondering how I managed to book people like this for the show,

I have a huge network and I'm teaching you how to build it as well. This will help you get a promotion. It'll help you meet the people you need to meet to be successful. It's free. Go check it out. Jordan Harbinger.com slash course is where it is. And most of the guests on the show, they subscribe to the course, they contribute to the course. Come join us. You'll be in smart company. Now here's part two with Anthony Raimondi. Now, for the things that you can talk about, I want to talk about how the next pope didn't just get whacked.

Like, first of all, you wanted to kill this pope or they wanted to kill this pope. No, no, no, no, whoa, back up. Back up. I did not want to kill him. Right, right. I missed him. My cousins did, not me. No, no, no, no.

I did not want to kill him. I never said I wanted to give my cousins are the ones who wanted to do it. Not me. So this guy, he was, to refresh people's memory, he heard about the stock fraud, and he's like, I got to find out who was behind this, root out the corruption, take him out.

No, he knew who it was. He really knew who it was. Oh, he already knew. Okay, so he was going to replace too many people, and they said, this guy's got to go. And the next Pope comes in and says, what? Don't worry about it?

Pope John Paul II comes in. We get a call. The cousins are coming in again. come in, we've got to go see grandpa. What's going on? They said, Pope John Paul the second, excuse me, said, Saturday he's calling a meeting. I said, so? He goes,

if he's going to call a meeting about the stock fraud, they told my girlfriend, says, we're going to take him, we're going to get rid of him. Are you guys fucking, no, we're going to get rid of him. So my grandfather goes, he goes, got to go back. I said, you're kidding me, he goes, go. When my grandfather says go, you go. Grandson or not, you go. Trust me

when I tell you, my grandfather was from the old country, and he didn't give a shit about nothing. I said, I said, I'm going to get, I said, I'm going to hell easily. Or I'm going someplace worse. They're not notorious. Nah, don't want to tell me, I said, yeah, don't worry about it for you guys. I'm screwed. And I go back to the hotel.

The day of the meeting comes. My cousin Jacob comes in. You have fun? Yeah, I had girls there. I mean, these girls were like naked walking around. I didn't even, I wasn't into a year I want to have six. I was just worried about, I got to go there and watch him kill this other frigging Pope. P.

P.S. he leaves. He comes back a couple hours later. And he hits the door to the room up. Boom. I saw his face. I said, oh, shit. Just a look on his face, I says, this guy's going to die.

Walks, he puts his hand on my left foot. He puts his hand on my shoulder. He hits me the heart. Oh, I look at him. He goes, you got to be fucking kidding me. He's got to go too. He goes, Jesus Christ, he goes, nah, I was the only fool

and everything's all right. This guy's fine. You son of a bitch, I like to hate you with a bottle in the head. I said, what happened? Pope John Paul II said, anything that transpired before my reign now is forgotten about.

I'm only concerned about from today on. This guy got away by the skin of his teakle. If he said he was going to do it, they were prepared to take him out. Do you think maybe he knew that? And so he was like, I don't want to deal with this. Hell yeah, he knew. Of course he knew.

He's no, I mean, just because you're a priest in the Vatican. It doesn't mean you're a dope. You know what's going on, especially when the guy gets, the guy cancaches his chips in after 33 days. And then when you go by the box, you have that little odor and smells like Amaretta.

That's the freaking poison. And I'll tell you something. I was interviewed from Spain, England, Rome, the other paper, the wire and all these things. And they got in touch with the Vatican. The Vatican's answer, you know what their answer was? No comment. Don't come back here no more. Oh, wow.

And I challenged the Vatican, get Pope John Paul I first, do a tissue test or a bone marrow test or whatever, and you'll see that poison is still in the system to this day. They don't even want to talk to me to the Vatican. Yeah, they don't want to deal with that. Meanwhile, it was last year of in November, after all this came out, my cousin Nancy calls me up, she says, put on the history channel. They had a thing about Pope John Paul DeFries. They suspect foul play all of a sudden after my book and everything came out. And I got in touch the Vatican.

Matter of fact, what's his name? The guy from the Post wrote a big article. But he put it down that I went there to whack the poll. Brad Hamilton. He put out a big article in October of last year, but he put down that I went out there to whack the pot. I mean, he changed it around. He changed it around. Like he basically said that I went there with a squad to kill the Pope.

No, I didn't go there with no squad to kill the Pope. Then he said, we partied after that. He changed the story around quite a bit. But everybody got the gist of the idea. Now, people look at me like, I killed the freaking Pope. I did. But that was back in October. Now, I have to get the story about this African drug lord.

Tobanga Kamalafi. Oh, what a fucking deal. This was, my... I'll tell you, when I came out of the service, I still owe them time. Okay. Because I signed up. I was going to stay in the military. But when they decided to give the country back to the Viac Cong,

I blew such a fit that I said, well, look to me, I'll blow this whole fucking country up. It'll be glowing the dark at night. They'll call it Anthony's pocket lot. Next thing I know, the next day, the Nang, the Trang, Cameron, Bay, and home. What? They thought I was nuts. I go to the D.C. Memorial Hospital, and they put me there with the psychiatrist.

I screwed this guy's head up all the way around the board. He's saying, oh, my friend William in the back. Oh, hi, William. Meet my friend Tommy, yo. Yeah, I got my horse. I got a motorcycle out there. Oh, yeah, I tied my horse to your motorcycle. All this crazy shit.

This guy had a file on me this big. Thought I was totally nuts. Thought I was going to go in. So what happened? Captain Amiel Bass, Massachusetts, Hans El Focene, who now Captain Bass is a colonel,

and Hans El Focene is a major, and my friend, Mr. C, who everybody's trying to find out who he is, but I let them all guess, because I got reasons why. Anyway, they come in, they talk to the psychiatrist, and I tell some guys,

I say, listen, you didn't have no guy in the back, of the frigging room over there, and I didn't need that. Number one. So number two, you didn't have no motorcycle, and I didn't write no fucking horse over here. And number three, the thing with your watch on your ankle, the reason why, because in psychiatry school, they teach you. You can't go like this, because if you get somebody, it's not to attack you. So they keep the watch on their ankle. When they cross their leg, they can glance at the watch. So Mr. C says, get your stuff. He says, we're getting out of it.

No, you ain't leaving. He said, he's getting out of here. Now, they deleted the file. They shredded the file, and I went home. Now, I owe them time. Like he told me, says, you're home. I'll protect you, but when I call you, you come. I got you until 1990. Because I don't care what you do. Shilog, bookmakers, I don't care if you fucking kill anybody. When I call you, you come. It's okay.

Now, everybody and the diplomat knew this. All the wise guys knew this that, you know, this is it. I said, it's the government day. Well, I mean, okay, fine. They didn't give you shit, man, still doing my rackets and everything. P.S., I get the call. And I go and see him.

I said, what's going on? He goes, you got to do me a favor. He's got to go to Nigeria. He goes, there's a guy there, Tabanga Kamalafi. He goes, there's two of them. There's Tabanga Kamalafi, Tabanga Kamalafi Jr. You're going to kill Tabang of Kamalafi. I'm going to, what?

He goes, listen to me. The guy is a drug dealer. He's sending a ton of drugs into the United States, heroin and everything. He goes, you're going to go there. You're going to pose as a drug dealer. He goes, you've got to do this for me. That's okay. He goes, round up some of your guys.

I went to Marko Island and got some of the guys that were in the service with me. And he says, here's what you're going to do. He goes, you're going to pose as a drug dealer. dealer, when you got the right opportunity, you kill him. He said, I don't want you to shoot. You kill him. Make sure he's dead. I said, okay.

I said, what's the story? Nigeria, it turns out, if you know anything about Nigeria, they have gold, silver, diamonds, and they got oiled. And guess who gets it? United States. This guy was stopping it from coming in because he was doing the drugs. So I go down there with a couple of guys, and they give me cash. I go around

and I'm telling I'm looking I'm from New York blah blah P.S. they bring me to this guy guy was fucking huge he had to be

450 pounds six foot six he had a head as big as a fucking water buffalo the guy had hands was so big that you know

watermelon he could actually pick up a watermelon with his hands like that with one hand I'm telling you I never saw

somebody big like this in my life comes over what are you looking for I'm looking for two kilos he goes

you stay here tonight, anything you want, girls, food, anything you want. But you're not who you say you are. Nobody ever see you again. It's okay. All night, I had women all night, long, food, liquor. Guy comes in the next morning. He looks at me, he goes, my friend,

he goes, you big man in New York, you big man in United States, drug, heroin. I says, yeah. He says, what do you want? I said, I want two kilos, try it out. Give me two kilos. I give him the cash, I leave.

Go back two weeks later. Oh, my friend. I said, you know, I need, I think I got five or ten kilos off of them. He said, stuff is going good. Gives it to me, give him the money back to the United States. Now we hit him up for the big one. I come back, he says, what do you want? Anything you want. I says, listen, I want a quarter of a ton.

He looks at me. No problem, but take us time to put it together. So he goes, you stay with me. Now, I had my guys that the way we were originally going to do it, I would have got out of the car, and then I would, you know, the car would have pulled up, and they would hand me a gun, and everything we would have started shooting and kill everybody in the car.

So I had it all set up. So I go to him and says, you know, and I sure he always carried a gun and everybody said, I can't ask you a question. He says, what? I said, you got a bodyguard. He says, yeah. I said, he carries a gun and you carry a gun.

He says, right. I said, what happens if somebody tries to kill you? I'm standing here. What do I go like this on my finger? Bang, bang, bang. I got no fucking gun to protect myself for it. I don't to protect you. No problem.

Come with me. Go into the room. You named the gun he had it in there. I look. I said, oh, this is a gun. dealer's dream. Let me tell you this place. So I turned around. I said, I want that one. It was a Colt 45 Magnum, very rare gun. Your gun, my friend. I got it loaded up, and I'm carrying it on this side over here. Went with this guy for two days, and one day now we're in the car into Mercedes,

and I'm looking around. There's a car following me because there was my guy's in the car. Now, he had a driver, bodyguard, and him. I get out of the car, I can blast him, and then I'm going to say, I'm looking for a man. I got to figure out another way. So the bodyguard, he didn't sit down like was sitting straight. He sat sideways facing the driver so he could see me. Oh. But the bodyguard had a problem.

When he laughed, he's going, I go all the way down and come up. And I said, I can pull this off in the car. I can pull this off in the car. So I tell him a joke. I said, listen, I'm going to tell you a joke. He goes, all right, what? I said, you got a priest and you got a nun. And they're in the desert.

And the camel dies. The priest turns around and tells the nun, I've been a priest all my life, I've never seen a woman's body, and before I die, I would like to see a woman's body. Nunn gets her all undressed, and the priest calls it's beautiful,

it's gorgeous, I've never seen that before. The nun, in turn, tells the priest, I've never seen a naked man before, and before I die, I would like to see a naked man. So the priest's, okay, he takes off all his clothes, and then nun goes to him, what's that between your legs? The priest says, that, my dear, is the staff of life.

She goes, well, stick it up the camel's ass, said, let's get out of here. This guy starts laughing. He bent over. I pulled out that gun. I caught him right in the back of the head. Boom, before anybody knew what happened. I popped him.

I just popped this guy. This guy's grabbing me around the neck. I put the gun to him. I had to put the gun in this hand. I'm fighting with him because he started choking me. I hit him five times. This guy didn't budge. The only thing he did, when I hit him the sixth time,

I must have hit someone. He went back. I put four more in his head and he was still breathing. Wow. That's how it was the guy. When I got him, the car, we hit a pole. We hit the pole over there. My guy's pulled up.

I got out of the car. He was still breathing. I put two more shots in his head, and that's what finally killed him. This guy was like, it was like shooting Godzilla. The guy was fucking. You ever tell him?

I hit him point blank like this with the gun. Because when he grabbed me, he grabbed me this way. I had the gun on my hand like this, and I couldn't turn it. I had a struggle to get it. And I'm pressing the trigger. And I'm saying,

oh, I thought I was dead. I got to take you. I thought I was dead. But the last shot when I got him, I must have caught him up this way. He goes, he went back like that. And he went like that to get me. I just popped him right in the head four times, and he went back.

I guess he was doing this. I said, this sort of a bitch is still, the guy's got ten shots in him. He's still frigging him. Are you fucking kidding me? I got out of that car and put two more in them because I had a 14-shot clip. I put two more in them, got in the car and took off. And at the bank of Kamalafi, no more. Meanwhile, the bang of Kamalafi from Nigeria, Jr. takes over,

and we get our oil, we get the gold, we get the diamonds, and we get the silver. Oh, wow. Wow. Oh, yeah, they're sick out there. They're all crazy out of Nigeria. They're totally insane. Tell me about the surprise you got about your father, because that was a twist I didn't see coming.

I know you didn't see it either. I got news for you. What happened? My cousin picks me up, says, we got to go down to pierce seven, we got a meeting. It's okay. All the bosses were there.

Anthony Scotto was there. Tom DeBella, Carmine Lombardoza, all the guys were there. So I'm walking on the pier, and I hear this guy just delegate that I know Joe Fish. He's yelling and cursing at somebody on the ship. I look up and see his father.

He's yelling and curse. person at my father. I went and grabbed him and I said, well, fuck you're yelling at. It's my father up there. You know, it's my father. One thing I thought, I went to hit him, they grabbed me. No, no, no, no. They said, let it go. I'll kill him. He says, let it go.

I'm fuming. I'm like, my eyeballs are red and let it go. I'm busting. So, we go to walk in to go to the meeting and to the office and say, listen, I forgot my cigars in the car, let me go get him. It's all right. Meanwhile, I had the mommy to cigarettes, have me in my jacket pocket. I walk, I say, Joe, let me talk to you.

He said what? I just bang, right in the face I gave it to me. I didn't waste no time. I went to work on this guy, and I said, you talk to my father like that, and only he's my father. Why I did it to this guy was a sin? Believe me.

Somebody goes on into the office telling him that I'm killing this guy, which basically I was. They all come running out. They jump on top of me. They're pulling me. You're up, what do you create? I'll fucking kill him. I said, I don't give a shit.

They'll take him away in an ambulance. Carmine Lambeard does it tells me, Tom DeBelle tells me, he goes, don't you know? I said, what am I supposed to know, Tom? Tom was one of the bosses and the families. But don't you, I said, what am I supposed to know? So, Carmine Lombardoza comes over with me.

I said, don't you know? I said, what am I supposed to know? Everybody tell me you supposed to know? What am I supposed to fucking know? So they look at me and says, you don't know. I said, I don't know what. Just go home tonight, your father's going to talk to you. I said, bye-bye.

I says, go home after your father talks to you, he says, you got to make this right with this guy. He goes, you almost killed him. These guy's in the hospital. You got to make it right. I go home, my father goes, I want to talk to you. You know what, let's go in the yard. Stop, what's the fuck's going on?

He goes, how do you think we live so good? I said, you're a longshoreman. I mean, you don't want to get involved in the rackets. You're a fucking longshoreman. My father would get up between 30 in the morning, go down to the pier, and then he would come back later on. He goes, no.

He goes, I work for the commission, the National Commission. My father was a shooter, that's all he done. But he worked for the National Commission. I never knew this. He never wanted to be made, my father. He just liked going out and killing. That was his thing.

He used to go out, and they gave him anything you want to my father. My father had a lot, they called him Top, because he was Topps in what he did. They called him Frankie Ray. They used to call him Quiet Frank.

They said, why Quiet Frank? Because he'd come up on you, you never heard a thing, and they put one right in the back of your head, and you'd never know it. Then I found out, later on, the New York families were trying to get,

I want you with me, I want you with me, you belong here, and my father said, no, because one of the families made a threat to my father. All of a sudden, it was a Likaze family.

They made a threat to my father. You don't come with us. You won't see tomorrow again. My father came home and told me, he says, I'm going on the ground. He said, I'm going to kill every fucking one of them. And my father would have got them. It got to the National Commission.

Now, you got to remember, the National Commission, these are guys from Chicago, New Orleans, you're talking about Missouri, all over, and they called a meeting. And the family's in New York, I'm in the National Commission, but they ain't the bosses. They're all bosses, but you got one bench

that these are the main bosses, what they say goes. And if you don't do it, adios, you're gone. They never find you again. They turned around and they told the Lucchese family. He gets bothered, he gets touched, his family, we wipe out your whole family. Starting with you. You put it to the boss and said starting with you first.

And they said at the commission, that goes for the rest of the New York families. He answers to us. You want something done? You want him to do it. You tell us. We tell him if he wants to do it, he doesn't. If he doesn't want to do, he doesn't do it.

Is that part of understood? They know. North New York said, yeah, okay. Part of them. Because they knew you mess with the National Commission. They will not think twice of having you removed permanently. They'll disband your whole family and kill all your top guys. I mean, they'll take you're the boss, you, you run the boss, your consularia,

and all your top captains all go. Your enforcer goes and your street boss goes. Gone. And they won't think twice about it. Everybody else just sort of joins other organizations and keeps running their rackets. Is that kind of how it goes? It depends on what the commission says. Yeah. Either they say you could stay together, they appoint somebody when they split you up and send you into other families.

But they came down, they said this about my father, and that was it. There was no questions asked when they said this. Nobody said a word. You're listening to the Jordan Harbinger Show with our guest, Anthony Raimondi. We'll be right back. And now, back to Anthony Raimondi, the enforcer on the Jordan Harbinger show. So you found out that your dad was the top enforcer for the commission. How old were you when you found out? Like 30? 24. 24, okay. And then I had to make a good with this guy, Joe Fish, because I went to the hospital to leave. This guy got cast and everything else. When he's seen me, he started pressing the button for the nurse.

I said, Joe, take it easy. They said, listen, I'm here to talk. They says, I didn't know that this was a game with you and my father because my father had FBI following him all the time. So they made it look like my father was a regular working guy. That's what him and Joe Fish did, but they were friends. Now I go to see my friend. He owned the Cadillac dealership on 86th Street. As soon as I walk in, he goes, ah, he goes, I know, you're here to get a guy.

a car, you got to make it right with Joe Fiffey. I said, yeah. He goes, what the fight? I didn't know. He gives me the Cadillac for his course. Joe Fish comes out the hospital and they had him down to Pierce. So me and my cousin go down. I'm driving a new Cadillac. My cousin's driving my car in the pocket. I walk into the office and he's talking with Anthony and Joe Fish sees me. I said, Joe, come outside with me. I said, I have something for you. Come out. He wouldn't budge. The guy's like feet were like cemented in stone. He wouldn't budge. Anthony tells me, just go with him. him. This guy's walking and this guy's shaking.

I got my arm around. I'm talking. I said, Joe, relax. I said, you know, I'm apologizing for it. I said, listen, Joe, you got to do me one favor. He said, close your eyes. I got a surprise for you. This guy looked at me. I said, close your eyes, Joe. He closed his eyes so tight. He thought he was going to get in the back of the head. My cousin brings the car up. I said, Joe, open your eyes. He wouldn't open his eyes. I said, Joe, open your fucking eyes already.

Will you please? Come on. He opened his eyes. He's going like this. See that? Here's the keys. That's yours. I want to apologize. The color came back into his face. This guy was like chalk white. When I gave him the key, he looked at me, I said, Joe, I didn't know this was a game with you and my father. I didn't know you did this to, like, throw the heat off my father because the FBI was always

looking at him. I said, this is my way of apologizing. This is kind of, it's brand new. It's paid off. Your insurance is paid for the next two years when it expires. Tell me how paid. Here's the key. It's all yours, Joe.

I really want to apologize. The color finally came back in this guy's face, and he was Eddie. He thought he was going to get white right there on the pier. Poor guy. He thought he was going to wind him in the ocean and the truck. trunk of the car. Oh, man. That's a hell of an apology, but he probably still walked with limp for, like, the rest of his life, the poor guy. No, he was pretty calm with that after that with me. He was, you know, because he knew I was going to hurt. He knew everybody knew. If I give

my word on something, I'd give you my word, but he knew, you know, everything is fine. But I'm going to do a book on my father also, because my father, I got a beautiful story, my father took out a guy up in Connecticut. Class act, my old man was. You want to hear it? Yeah. It's in my book. See, the father got a call from Frank Piccolo. He's the head of the Gambino family in Connecticut at the time. They wanted a guy that they had a clip. My father said, well, why don't you get your guys to do it? Because if my guys walk in there, he's going to know

because these guys never show up there. So, Frank, so my father told him, my father told him what to do. He went to the commission. They came to my father. My father said, okay, my father gets all dressed up. It's one night. He goes all dressed. He's got a suit on, top coat, hat and everything.

He goes down the cellar. Comes up. Send me back later. It's all right. My cousin picks him up. gets in the car. I think it was New Haven or one of the other ones. He walks in, my cousin's waiting in the car outside.

My father's all dressed with suit, top coat hat, walks up and sees this guy. Hey, Frankie, hey, how you doing? Good. Hugs, kiss, how you doing? I got to meet somebody up here, my father tells him. Come here all the guys got about five people sitting the table with him. To they exchange nice of these, the guy sits down. My father walks past him a couple feet, turns around,

and portray him right in the back of his head at the table. And he just walked right out of the place. the people now at the table, they all dove, and nobody could describe who my father was. And my father just went out, got in the car, and he took off. My father, he was deadly. Quietest man you'd ever want to meet.

This guy cried when last he went off. Believe me what I tell you. My father put a guy in a coma over a dog. You ever see a Sheltie? You know what a Sheltie callie is, them little dogs? Uh-uh, no. Dogs only about like this, maybe this big. Guys coming up the block,

and he's dragging the dog. He's got to wire around the, next. My father, and you hear the dog cry. My father goes, I'm out there. My father goes, oh, what are you doing? He goes, my father's, listen, I'll pay you. I'll give you a couple of hundred for the dog. I'll kill this fucking dog. The guy picks a dog up. You hear the dog screaming, because the why I was cutting. My father hit this guy. Bang. The guy went right on the floor. My father said, get the dog. I got the dog. I took the why. He goes, take the dog inside, see what you can do. So my mother was in. I said, mom, I said, listen, the dog, because my mother was expert with animals with dogs.

She went in. I go back outside. My father beat this guy. Put him in a coma. My father him so bad, put him in a coma that when he came out of the coma, the guy was retarded. He didn't even know how old he was. Oh, wow. Yeah, my father beat him half the death. And the cops came, and they says, what happened? My father says, he's on my property, put his hands on me. Oh, Frankie, put his hands on you.

You had to defend yourself. It's on your property. That's it. And my father says, good, now he's got to suffer. The rest of his fucking life, let him suffer. What he did to that dog, he said, let him suffer. My father was an animal lover to no avail, believe me when I tell you something. I mean, look, people who abuse animals don't have a whole lot of sympathy in my book either.

So I kind of... I take after my father with the animals. I don't go for that. You got pets? Yeah, I have one left. I have one left now. Is it a dog? No, it's a cat.

I got two hairless cats. They look like little gremlins. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. They're cute. I like them. Yeah. It's funny because people call them ugly and I'm like, you know, it's like my kid you're talking about here, you know?

It's like my little gremlin. I don't want everybody talking about them. People are weird. People are weird, don't even pay no attention to them. Sometimes they tell them I like animals more than people. It depends on the situation. I mean, it seems that that's pretty clear, given your line of work, where you can't really get attached to people,

but probably nobody ever put a hit out on a pet. See, but what I always said, an animal gives you unconditional love. They always gives you unconditional love. Just feed them, give them water, and let them go in the yard or walk them. Even when you abuse them, they still give you unconditional love. People will kill you in the second and stab you in the back. I've seen it happen more than once. What do you read book, too?

You're going to find out about a lot of guys who stabbed their family in the back and they got whacked. Oh, yeah. I read a little bit about that after the Lufthansa Heist, which people can find out about in your book and the podcast. We don't have to get into that here. But you had to take out some guys because, is it because they were spending too much money? It's like people get, they get moneyed up and they start spending? I didn't take nobody out. Anything I did, I didn't kill nobody on the street.

I didn't kill nobody on the street. Oh, no, no, no, no. What happened with Sally Burns was years ago where I got, you know, You know, I paid my dues for that. When I was in Nam, there's something different. But I didn't kill nobody on the street now. There's no statute of limitations on that. That's true.

I know that some guys were taken out by other people for, what, overspending when they get too much money? Well, a lot of them were killed by unknown people, let's put it that way. Mainly for overspending, for showing off, for bragging about it, like Marty Krugman. Marty Krugman, he was legitimately on television years ago. his real name is Marty Krugman. They call him Maury in the movie. And he runs his fingers through his hand and goes hard to believe on board and he used to jump into pool. That guy was real.

His name was Marty Krugman. Marty had a Shylock business and a bookmaking business. But Marty spent more than he made. So he used to go to Jimmy Burke and used to borrow money from Jimmy Burke, and Jimmy would charge him to interest. He was Shylocked him. Marty Krugman brought the deal to Luftanzer to Jimmy Burke. Jimmy Burke brought up to Pauli Vario, who was his captain. that was the Lucchese family.

They're trying to figure out how to do this heist. So there's a meeting. I got called into the meeting with them all, and guys are coming up with ideas. One guy's idea was fucking brilliant. We're going to come there with a helicopter, run the cables down, bring it into the office,

put it on the safe and pull it out, and what the helicopter are going to take off. And they're going, yeah, that's good, that's good. And I say, excuse me, you're in an airport. Where are you going? So everybody looked at me. I said, you're in an airport.

How long do you think it'll take it? get jets to come over here and shoot you out of the sky. Two minutes? So they looked at me as, and the security that they have there? It's impossible. They all looked at me and the guy goes, yeah, they know the kid's right.

I know I'm right. Another genius. We're going to come in with an armored truck, crash through the wall, grab the cell, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're going to go on an armored truck? You crash through the wall with an armored truck. You know how much security they have in there?

They have armored trucks in the airport all over for security. You're never going to get. it out. Now Paulie Varelel, he's pissed because everybody from all the other families, they couldn't come up with no good idea. So Pauli says to me, can you think of an idea of Anthony? He goes, I mean, you spent all that time overseas and said, listen, the only thing I could think of, I got one guy I can go see. He goes, I said, I'll go see Maya Lanski. Why are you going to go see him for? I said, if he could figure out, that's the guy that

will put it together. I shoot down to Florida. I go to Maya's house. He's off of Collins Avenue. He's, hey, what you do? I said, Maya. He said, what's the story? I told him the story, he goes six million cash. You'll stay another day or two, we'll relax, had some fun. You go back and I'll be up the day after. Comes up the day after.

Let's come on, let's get together. Me, him, Jimmy Burke, and my cousin Mac, we'd get in the car. Me and I are sitting in the back. We'd go through the airport. I said, there's a terminal. Look, how.

Here's the funny part. Outside of the terminal, outside of the office, rather, there's two steel containers. Like, say, three feet by three feet. next to one another, big, what you call it, yellow sticker on it with big check mark in them, both of them. Sitting there, we're a chain around the both of them.

Maya goes, there's something in there. Let's see if they're still there. Maya goes back, he starts putting a plan together, he comes back in. They go back, still containers are still there. Because I'm telling you, Anthony, there's something in there. Goes back, coming back a month later, go down, they're still sitting there. He goes, I got the plan. Now we got everybody together.

A couple of guys from the Gambino family, the Bonano family, the L'Aze family, main guys from the Colombo family, and the Lucchese family, the main guys, the Genovese family guys are there. But Maya gets three crews. One goes into the office to take the $6 million. One works on one container, one works on the other. Now we got it set up. Everything will go from there. It goes into two other cars.

That will go on the road. That will get transferred to two other cars. to where the cars gets transferred to me, right down to my club. The score goes off. Now, here's what I want to say. What I originally told this story, a lot of the publishing house, ah, you're full of shit, Maya Lansky was never in New York in 1978. Well, guess what?

The girl who wrote it for me, Lisa Pellitzer, got the FBI reports. Maya Lansky was in New York in 78 at the times I said he was. So you know what I say to those houses? Fuck you. Sorry, but I got to say that because they started. But now they all wanted the book now. Oh, yeah, you're telling you, I don't want to be bothered. No, understand what I'm going to tell you.

They have surveillance pitches of us, correct? Yeah. In and out of the airport, three different times. But yet, the score still went off. You figured out what I. Now, there was $6 million in cash, okay, inside. $5 million in jewelry that we got for the jewelry, $5 million, $30 million in bearer bonds and the other one

with the manifest of everybody who owned it all scheduled to go to Germany. The Bamar bonds were hot. So we never heard nothing about it. You know, Maya Lansky said, the crooks robbed the crooks. That stuff was slated to go to Germany to get moved.

They like to get sold or whatever in Germany and then the people back in, oh, we lost our bonds and then the insurance pays them again. It had to be because you would never keep that much in a container sitting at the airport without people around it. You keep it at a bank vault.

No, but the manifest was there. It was going to Germany. Yeah. If it was legit, it would never be sitting there like that. No. There's no way. And there were going to be in guard around. But they did it night.

It was always outside the office. Especially with the jewelry. Took a $5 million in jewelry. That's insane. A lot of jewelry, my man. That's a lot of jewelry for $5 million. I mean, was it loose stones or was it like ready-made stuff? That was our end.

Listen to me. That was our end. Oh, wow. That was our end. We got $5 million. Remember, when we did the score, and the score went off, I brought the money down to my. I drove down with my car. I brought him to cash and I had the jewelry with me.

My end was $5 million. I brought back up to New York. I gave my his end of the $6 million. I brought the jewelry. Maya fenced it. And I got in Book 2, who we fenced it and everything. And it was done. And I come back to New York with $5 million.

Then I bring the bearer bonds down to him. He got $0.85 on the dollar. On the freaking dollar. I'm driving back up. I got like $20, what was about $22 million, $25 million in the car. I took out the back seat of my... I ripped out... Burek...

What's wrong? Burek Grand National. Took the back seat out. I ripped out the springs and the stuff, and now you just got the material. I piled all the stacks of money like this. Made it look like the seat. I was working on it for a day and a half.

Tightened everything up, sold it, and fine. Now we got more money left over. How fuck am I going to put it? So my cousin goes to me, let's open the trunk, open the trunk. And back then I had the big spare tire. And take up the spare tire. You drove the cash in there.

We had it wrapped up. Put the tire. Meanwhile, the tie sticking up about this much. It's okay. I said, but we still got maybe another half a million over here. I told him the tie it real well. Jordan put the cover over it. Now we're driving back to New York.

I tell my cousin, you know, if we get pinched, they're going to take the money out of the trunk. Then they're going to go through the car. I says, you know, we're going to be dead. They're going to whack us. So what we did, we drove during the day. When the nighttime came, we got found these little motels where they could pull your car right up to the door.

My cousin would go in, sleep for about four or five hours. I'd be in the car. He'd come out. I'd go in four or five hours. Boop back in the car. Back to the dawn of the day. We took our time doing it. We did it in two days.

We took our time. Came back to New York. Went into Honey's lot on Caval Street. Took all the stuff out of the car. When they knew that we were there, all the bosses came down in person and the underbosses to get their end. They didn't send their guys down

like they did with the money from the jewelry. They all came. in person to get all that money. Because it was too tempting for the undergaz or why? They just wanted to see it? Yeah, sure. I got over $25 million over here we brought back. You know?

And the bosses got their end. Every boss was happy. The only one who put up a stink and I looked him deal with was Pauli variable. Why the fuck we got to give him any money? I said, Paulie. First of all, you don't understand. He put the score together. Without him, it would have never went off.

And he's been fencing everything. I said, look what he's getting us. You're talking 85 cents on the dollar. That's unheard of. But these guys were afraid of Maya. That's why they gave $0.85 cents on the dollar. I said, look at the jewelry. I mean, you took $5 million cash we got here, plus six from there.

Paulie, who's got it better than anybody over here? Paulie, I loved them dearly, but he was a greedy fuck. Paulie was green. He could squeeze a cord and make the eagle cry blood. Listen to what I'm telling you. Paulie was fucking greedy. But, you know what? In the end, he was still happy what he got, because he got the lion's share of it.

The lion's share went to the Columbo's and the Lucases. But everybody, the family that participated, they got a fair share. They were all happy with. Not one of them complained. This is the Jordan Harbinger Show with our guest, Anthony Raimondi. We'll be right back. Thanks for listening and supporting the show. You know, supporting these advertisers, that keeps us going.

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Those links are in the show notes at Jordan Harbinger.com slash podcast. Now, here's the conclusion of our episode with Anthony Riemondi. What's it like becoming a made man? Like, what is the process like? That I won't discuss what the process is. That's fair. I may do a lot of things, but I won't say, oh, we'll tell you this. You go, you take an oath.

There's captains there and the boss of the family. I'll leave that that. but actually the actual procedure, no, I won't give. That's the only thing I won't say. It may sound stupid, but that was more like sacred to us the way we did it. Let's put it that way. That makes sense. The omerta, right?

The oath and everything. Listen, 90% of the guys don't even go by that no more. This is what I'm telling you. Like I said, if things would have been the way it was years ago, I would never wrote the book. But when you disrespect my father and my cousin and all of us, now screw you, I wrote my book. But one thing, I never testified against anybody in court.

Nobody ever went to prison on a kind of me. Nobody ever went to prison on a kind of my book or anything. So they could say, oh, he's a rat. He's this bullshit. I never testified against anybody. I never gave information on it. No, nothing. Everything I've done is in my book.

And that's all there is to. Meanwhile, they're all writing books all over the place, please. They want to make it sound like they're all priests. Meanwhile, they put all the other rackets aside, and they deal in drugs and drugs. I always told the guy, one of the reasons I went out was too because they wanted me to take over a drug crew.

And I said, I'm not going to do it. You have to, no, I don't have to do it. I don't want to do it. If I'm going to kill a man, I'm going to kill him, period. I'm going to kill that man. I'm not going to kill his whole family. You get a guy with drugs, you're killing his whole family. Guy gets hooked.

He's going to rob his family. His mother, his father, his wife, you know what I'm saying? He's destroying the whole family. I'm no angel. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I've changed my life around. Don't get me wrong. But I was no angel.

But I never, never dealt with drugs. No drugs, no kitty porn, no nothing like that. And I never dealt with legitimate people. I always dealt with people. who were in the same line of work I was. Because legitimate people don't understand what could happen. So basically, if I'm just a normal guy and I'm doing my business, you don't say, like, look, I'm coming after you, none of that,

because I'm outside the business. If you're doing illegal stuff, you've got a legitimate business and you're a little shady, oh, yeah, I'm going to put the squeeze on you. But you're 100% legit. Like, you're a working guy. You go to work every day, take care of you. I'm not going to mess with you. I'm not going to mess with you at all.

You just open up a business and you're working. nine to five to make your business go and you're not doing nothing shady, I'm not going to mess with you, not at all. I find out now you've got a business, but on the side you're doing something else, whether it be hot cigarettes or whether it be swag, you're doing something illegal, and you're in my area, I'm going to come down on you. Say, hey, you know, my area, let's sit down and talk. Now I want an end. But if you're a hundred percent legitimate guy, and there's been a lot of guys that I met that were, truthfully, strictly 100 percent legitimate, told them, I'll be your friend. If I can help you, I will, but you can't be around me because you've got to have that envelope

every week, and I don't want to know nothing. What is swag? I heard you say that before. I don't know what that means. That'd be like a hijack a truck. You got TVs, you got suits on there, shoes, stereos, whatever. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I've heard it, but it usually means like T-shirts or something like you give away swag for your company, like promotional items. They use that on TV. That's all TV, please. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Can we talk about your terminal illness? Are we able to talk about that at all?

Yeah, well. So you're suffering from a terminal illness, and I mean, do you feel like you've lived a full life? You've got a lot of stories, man. A lot going on. Well, I still go for treatments, so the treatments will keep me going with the cancer. The cancer goes down into remission and then it comes back up. It's called a recurring cancer. What it is is you can get treatments and it'll go away for maybe three months, two months, six months a year, then it comes back again.

But what it does, it clings on to a part of it. your body inside and just starts growing. So how it killed you is it just keeps growing and growing and pushing everything out. But it originally started out as medialivine thyroid cancer, which everybody said, oh, if you get cancer, that's the best one to get. Yeah, okay, I had medialyloid cancer. 30 days later, they had to go and take my lymph nodes out because they found cancer in my lymph nodes.

So that wasn't the best cancer you can get. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then it just progressed. Like now my blood level is like usually 10.4. it should be like 14 or 15. Mine's always 10.4. I'm taking vitamin B 12,

super vitamin B. I take a whole load of vitamins every day. And all my doctors say, I don't know how to figure you're walking. I'm up, I'm walking. I said, I'm not, I make them live, I says, I ain't dying yet.

I said, because I wouldn't give half these son of a bitches that I know the pleasure are saying, ah, look at him, he couldn't take them when he died, so I want to see them dead before me. I got to stay around. Truthfully, it's a struggle every day. I've had four ablations on the heart, facial fibrillation.

I had four of them. My doctors are fantastic. Dr. Reddy, the guy's a genius. He did the one side of the heart, and then he did the other. The last one he'd done on me was six hours, and that's unheard of, and a six-hour ablation.

That is unheard of. I mean, compared to what I was, it's like a totally different person. I still got some problems with it, you know, to be expected. What is it from? Could be from the cancer. It could be from my blood levels,

it could be whatever, you know what I'm saying? But one thing I do remember, my father always used to say, you pay a price for everything you do in this world. My father always said that. My father died, he had esophageal cancer. Six months before he died, he did his last piece of work, I want you to know, with a friggin' feet into him inside of him. My old man was tough, but he was something else.

So now when I look at what my father said, I look at it, this is, I'm getting paid back for things I've done. I wondered about that. I wondered if you felt like this was some sort, of, I don't know if you want to say, like God punishing you or making you sort of pay the piper for some of the way you lived? Basically, it's like I said, I'm paying for what I did. Like that's my father said, you pay a price for everything you do in this world.

Anything I've done, nobody twisted my hand or twisted my arm and said you had to do. I did it because I wanted to. I wanted to be a gangster. I wanted to be with the wise guys I wanted to do it. So this is my price that I'm paying. Everybody says, why did I leave? All right, why did I walk away? You can walk away because a lot of guys did walk away because I'm not.

I'm not going to take orders from a 22-year-old freaking kid. I'm a maid man. I'm an enforcer. All right. So if you know what that is, that if anything happens into families, let's say like the boss dies, the underboss goes over, the concierie moves up, somebody else. And I keep growing up. I don't take no shit from no 22-year-old kid.

What? Because he's your nephew or why? Because you're banging his sister? And you think this kid's going to give me orders. Goodbye. And I went with my uncle Danny Salentie. Well, he's not my uncle. He was really.

He was my cousin. My grandmother's cousin. he's with another family, and there was a little bit of a beef about it. And I told him, they're going to come after me. It's fine, I'll go to the ground. So the smart answer said, oh, we'll cover you. He said, what does that mean you go to ground? It means I'm going to go into hiding, and I'm going to find every one of you and kill

every one of you. I said, that's what it means where you go to ground. I said, you want to try me out right here right now? I told the guy, said, because I'll take your heart out right here now. The guy looked at me, and he says, yeah, I said, take a move. Give me a reason to take your head off, right? I'll rip your eyes out. The first thing I'll do I'll rip your eyes right out of your head.

give me a reason. I said, don't think that because you think who the hell you are, you're a little younger than me, you're going to boss me. I said, that's not going to happen. I went someplace else to another family. And then I seen things were changing there when everybody started dying. I said, you know what? It's nothing like it was when I was growing up. Nothing like it at all. It's like the difference between day and night. It doesn't even resemble anything. You'll have all these guys that'll talk, yeah, blah, blah, but they're all full of shit. They're all full of shit because, you know what? I never seen one guy go and do anything by himself. He's only got to take two and three and four guys with him. In my day, you went.

The most you did, maybe you took a guy to drive you. And there was another main guy. Otherwise, you went by yourself, you did what you did, and you came home, and that was it, over and done with it. You went home, you went to sleep that night, and everything was over and done with. These kids nowadays, you can't trust none of them. Everybody says, you can't. I'm 66. I'm going to be 67. The kids in their 20s, 30s, 40s, even in their 50s, I call them kids. You can't trust them. They're just, coming up. Half of them I don't even know because I never met them. And the ones that I do know, they got in because, like I said, their uncle was somebody, so the uncle brought them in and made them. But what did he do to prove that he's made? What did he do to prove that he should be a

made guy, that he should be a member over here? Of course, he's your nephew. It doesn't work. To me, it doesn't work like that. That's not the way it is. And all the old time is that are dead, like my uncles, they must be spinning in their graves. Because if they were alive now, see what happened over here now, my grandfathers. They would probably wind up whacking out every one of them. It doesn't work that way. Do you ever feel bad about shaking people down or beating people up or any of this stuff? No.

Anybody that I ever messed with was in the same line of business I was in, or they were doing a lot of illegal stuff. No, I never felt bad about it. It was business. Not a personal. You never make it personal. It's always a business thing because businesses make money. I'm here to make money.

I mean, you come into my neighborhood. I have a particular area. You come in and you open up a gambling parlor. You're not giving me an end. You're in my territory. You're not giving me an end. That's a big mistake. I'm going to come and see you and I'm going to tell you, listen.

And I'll talk to you nice. Look, this is my area. You're in here. A couple of weeks, whatever. Okay. What's my end? Oh, you're going to get an end? No problem.

You sure. Yeah, okay. By the time you have the next night, I'll make sure the whole place got busted up and you wind up in the hospital. Now, if you're smart, you say, Anthony, what are you looking for? Right. I'm looking for one-third.

I'm looking for 25. But you're in my area. You're not that I'm going into an outside area. You're in my area where I'm operating. So that's my area. You're coming in there without even telling me. It's not right. Do you have any regrets?

The only regrets, truthfully, that I have, really, is where I put my mother and father to. That and my animals that died. That I couldn't save my mother and father and my pets that I couldn't save them and make them live longer and cured them up. Otherwise, those are the only regrets I got. Huxley was telling me to tell you about the movie, the Irishman.

Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, we have like 12 minutes or something. You want to throw that in? I seen the movie The Irishman. Uh-huh. And I wrote on Facebook to Martin Scorsese and to Robert De Niro. Like I said, I love everything they do. It's a bullshit story.

Number one, I'll tell you why. One, there's a scene in there where Albert Anastasia gets killed. That was my father, Joe Gallo, and Carmine Persico. Number one. Number two, the second part is where Joe Gallo got killed in the street and Lillitly. You see Robert De Niro running in, the guy falls in the street and he shoots him. No. My father's the one who put the last two bullets in him when he ran out of the restaurant.

That was my father. And where you see him that he, quote, unquote, killed Jimmy Hoffer? It's not true. My father was one of the guys who got rid of him. My father told me all this. I know all this for a fact. I know all this for a fact of my father told me everything when he was dying. and all the guys I knew did it.

This guy took my father's life and put it on there. And I wrote on Facebook because I didn't have Martin Scorsese's address or Robert De Niels, and I told him, the guy's lying to you. This is my father. I can tell you exactly what happened every time. And as far as, to be half, my father said he went into an oven. He went into the big oven where they melt the cars down.

I've been saying this since last year. Since last year, I've been saying this. and I've been writing about it and I got little, like when I did videos and everything on Facebook, I've been writing all about this. I've seen today Michael Francis saying, oh yeah, this guy was lying. You son of a bitch, I've been saying this since last year,

all of a sudden you come out with him now. Where'd you get it from? Stuff I wrote. Oh, I know the guy who did, said that you're full of shit. And I'll say that he's full of shit. I knew his father, Sonny. Then they had another thing saying that Michael was worth $20 billion.

He wasn't worth no 20. They said, that's why a magazine. He may have been the richest gangster, but he wasn't worth no 20 billion. Please. That's a crock of bullshit. Sammy the Bull told me that Franchise doesn't know any of this stuff that he's talking about and that it's a complete fabrication.

He didn't even really see that guy around. No. I met Michael once. Once I met him, I was down by Montezza. Oh, Michael. There's Ant-A-Anthe-Michael. How you doing? That was it. But he never stood with us. He never stood down by the diplomat. He never stood in Montees.

Anytime we went somewhere, like to one of the clubs, I never seen him there. He said he was shaking him down for the gasoline tax, which he probably was. Because he says, oh, I was giving the boss of the family $400,000 a week. I'm making $2 million a week and $400,000 a week I'm taking. First of all, he was only in it for a short while. He started getting into it, according to him, because I didn't know, in 1975. And he walked away, what, in the 90s? So if you're doing this gasoline tax, you didn't accumulate 20 billion.

If you're getting $2 million a week, on 10 weeks, it's $20 million. That's $100 million a year. So it'll take you 10 years to get a billion dollars. So you made $20 billion? Come on, please. I mean, look, you became a preacher. You got a good thing going. You do motivation.

Great, great. You walked away. Which one thing I could say, I never heard that he ran it on anybody. I'll be honest with you on that. But come on. Now you're embellishing the store. You're making it more than what it is. Come on, let's be serious here.

All of a sudden, he knows about what Jimmy Hoffa. He never said it years ago. I've been saying this for over a year because my book came out September last year. And I gave a lot of interviews, and I was saying it. Then once I seen the movie, The Irishman, I were fit. And I wrote to Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro. And I says, if you want to know the real story, ask me. And I put it out on Facebook.

And I put it on Facebook, anybody who knows him, tell him to get and touch me. And this was like 7, 8, 9. nine months ago when I did it. I never heard from anybody. I said, I could tell you the real story of what happened with Jimmy Hoffer from my father

and all the guys that were there and with Joe Gallo and the whole nine yards. That's what got me pissed off to that. I mean, all of a sudden he comes up with this story. All of a sudden, I mean,

come on, let's be serious. Why don't you say this a long time ago? They want the YouTube cloud. Yeah, well, my thing was on, I think somebody posted my thing on YouTube at one time. I'm not sure. But I had it in the videos

that I made. I was talking about it. I always spent, and if you check any of the old ones that I made, I'll show you them, we ever get together, I show you them like, you know, videos that I did that, you know, like when you record on your phone and I put it up, and I've been saying all about my father since last year with the Irishman and with everything else,

and about Jimmy Hoffer. And all of a sudden now, he, oh, I know the guy who killed Jimmy Hoffa, he's still around. Yeah, okay. There may be one old timer. I haven't heard from this guy in, shit, it's got to be five years. He might be dead. I think a lot of the mafia stuff really,

is romanticized, of course, by Americans, so people want to be close to that because they get a little bit of internet points. They get some social status from it, even if they had nothing to do with it. And they figured nobody else is going to correct the record. Yeah, the thing is this. Legitimate people do not understand.

You hook up with a wise guy. You got to remember something. Kind of have that envelope there. And then again, you got to remember, too. If something goes wrong, they could turn around and say, well, you know, listen, you've got this kid covering around, his legitimate kid.

How do we know he didn't talk? Oh, he didn't talk. well, you know what? Get rid of him. You might be killing an innocent guy. People don't understand it. They don't look at it as, oh, I'm with this guy, I'm with that guy. They don't understand what really happens behind the scenes.

It's not like that. It's not like you see on TV. They romance and put everything up. It doesn't go that way. I'm looking forward to having you back on the show when book two comes out, when your documentary comes out. This has been super entertaining, informative. I really appreciate you coming in, man.

This has been great. Next one will do in person. You got the number. Anytime you want to speak to me, there's no problem. Hopefully book two, I'll have it out by sometime next year. Great, good. Well, have a great day. And thanks again for your time and for your stories.

It's been a great hell of an episode. My pleasure. It's been a pleasure meeting you. I've got some thoughts on this episode. But before I get into that, I wanted to give you a preview of one of my favorite stories from an earlier episode of the show with John and Mendes. She was the chief of disguise for the CIA in Moscow during the latter part of the Cold War. We really get into the weeds on how they hid people and hid spy gear in one of the most hostile

espionage environments anywhere in the world. We invented technology that didn't even exist yet. The small batteries, for instance, they're in our watches and our phones and all of that stuff today. They're kind of like Q from James Bond, but it's the CIA. We could create any kind of character over your face, masks that came out of Hollywood. We'd say, great. Go down to the cafeteria and have lunch.

This is at CIA headquarters where everybody knows everybody in the cafeteria. and they would go and discover that no one paid any attention to them. You go, wow, I'm hiding in plain sight. They were following us just every minute. The case officer would step out of the car. The driver would hit a button. This dummy would pop up wearing the same clothes as the guy that had just left. Trailing surveillance would come around the corner and they'd follow that car all night.

They never knew. And if they could get to those people, they would execute them. They were feeding people into these crematorium. feet first, alive. Unbelievable. A really valuable agent said, I'll work for you on one condition. And that is that you give me the ability to take my own life. Eventually, everybody got arrested.

So they arrested him. And we had put that L pill we gave him in the cap of the Montblok pin. It was cyanide. And he knew where it was. And they said, we want you to write your confession. So they brought him as Monblock Pin. For more with Johna Mendez, including some incredible spy stories that will really perk your ears. Check out episode 344 of the Jordan Harbinger show.

Big thank you to Anthony Ramondi. His podcast is called The Enforcer. This is Wild. I told you, I didn't even get into his involvement in the movie Saturday Night Fever, how that came about. He doesn't look like much of an answer, but what do I know? There's stories about the mayor of New York, Ed Koch to get the bids to build the west side highway, all kinds of like anti-mafia people just being snuggled up to the mob. He talks about Meyer Lansky, if you've ever seen any mob movie. He's a character and almost all of them talks about some pretty gnarly hits. And all his friends have died at this point. From nature, bullets, died in prison. He says the new mafia guys are just street guys who sell drugs. The honor is all gone. And that's why he left and that's why he's talking.

I definitely want to do more with him. He's got stories of working for the Central Intelligence Agency. After Vietnam, he's got stories from Vietnam. There's all kinds of stuff we just didn't even have time for in the three hours that we recorded. And if you're watching this video on YouTube, let me just say, without incriminating anyone, that cane you saw him with in studio, it's not just a cane, and I'll leave it at that. Many people will wonder if all this stuff is true.

I will say I was in that camp where I said, come on, man, to the person to introduce me to him. I also have to say there are a few sources who can confirm much, but not all of this. His timelines, his names, that he mentions, those all line up. So if you don't believe him, then your other conclusion has to be that he is an amazingly detailed researcher and has an

amazing memory for stories that aren't his or that aren't true. For me, personally, I buy it for what it's worth. It's just too much going on that's lined up for me to believe that he has concocted it and, you know, frankly done a terrible job of monetizing it. If he was a conman, you'd think he would have been a better marketer. But you know what? Maybe I'm naive. Again, links to all his stuff will be in the website in the show notes. Please use our website links if you buy anything from any of our guests because it does help support the show. Worksheets for this episode in the show notes, transcripts for this episode in the show notes. There's a video of this interview going up on our YouTube channel at Jordan Harbinger.com

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