The Jordan Harbinger Show - 660: Chemtrails | Skeptical Sunday

Episode Date: May 1, 2022

Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a chemtrail of dihydrogen monoxide, known to cause suffocation as well as accelerated corrosion in certain circumstances, and now it's in the very air you're breathing! But to what end? What nefarious plot has the government hatched to control the lives of you and your loved ones this time? Listen on as we get to the bottom of this chemtrail conspiracy! Welcome to Skeptical Sunday, a special edition of The Jordan Harbinger Show where Jordan and fact-checker, comedian, and podcast host David C. Smalley break down a topic that you may have never thought about, open things up, and debunk common misconceptions. Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/660 On This Week's Skeptical Sunday, We Discuss: What is dihydrogen monoxide, and why are aircraft continually depositing it into the air we all breathe? Are government scientists really geo-engineering our weather? If so, to what end? If we're supposed to believe so-called chemtrails are just condensation-created contrails, why did a weatherman admit on live television that the military was spraying chemicals into the atmosphere? If chemtrails are just contrails, why are there sometimes breaks in the streams? Wouldn't the temperature difference between an airplane's exhaust and the air create consistently solid trails? Aluminum found in the soil proves beyond a doubt that the government is spraying us with toxic chemicals to control the population -- or something -- right? Connect with Jordan on Twitter, on Instagram, and on YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on Skeptical Sunday, drop Jordan a line at [e-mail] and let him know! Connect with David at his website, on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok, and on YouTube, and make sure to check out The David C. Smalley Podcast here or wherever you enjoy listening to fine podcasts! If you like to get out of your house and catch live comedy, keep an eye on David's tour dates here and text David directly at [phone] for tickets when he comes to your town! Sign up for Six-Minute Networking -- our free networking and relationship development mini course -- at jordanharbinger.com/course! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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flow behind airplanes. Why do we sometimes see them other times we don't? Are they just clouds, or is it a chemical sprayed on us by the government for mind control? Now, we all know that clouds are just trapped moisture or these frozen crystals suspended in the air, but of course it freaks people out when they see clouds being made right before their eyes. Conspiracies run wild, and the next thing you know, you have thousands of people believing we're being poisoned by our government. Comedian and skeptic, David C. Smalley, of course, is here today to talk about chemtrails. Or as I've been calling it all afternoon, chemtrails. Hey, David. Hey, Jordan. Yeah, look, the government is definitely poisoning us, but it's because they let us

eat Doritos. All right, okay, we need a legal disclaimer if you're going to do stuff like that. Sorry, red pointy nacho cheese tips. God, it's exhausting working with an attorney. Actually, actually, I was just going to add takis and funnions to the list because there's a lot more where that came from. Okay, look, we definitely need to do an episode on foods that are allowed in the States but should be banned like they are in other countries. So people need to write in if they want to hear that. I would love to ruin your snacks for you and do one on that. You know, that's interesting. I bet you that Cheetos are not allowed in places where they have universal health care. Or there are Cheetos. They're just ugly and weird and taste like garbage, which is why they won't suck the chemicals out of them here. But I can't wait to do one.

I want to be able to write in and tell Jordan, let's do one on banned foods because I think it would be a blast. I'm down. All right. Okay. So if people want it, we're going to give it to them chemtrails, the government conspiracy to douse Americans with weather-altering chemicals, or was it to control our minds? I forget. No, I think that's what CNN is for.

But, yeah. Okay. Look, let's start with some truth I found in this, okay? And this is going to shock some people, because they tune in for skepticism and for facts. And sometimes you're not going to hear what you think you're going to hear or what you want to hear. There's going to be some uncomfortable truths on this podcast. So when you look up and you see those trails behind planes, what you're seeing is a potentially dangerous chemical known as oxidane. In some circles, it's referred to as dihydrogen monoxide. It's been known to cause suffocation as well as accelerated corrosion. And there's

this growing movement aiming at shutting it down. It's in our lakes. It's in the pipes under our homes. It's even in our toilets. You can buy bumper stickers and t-shirts that say ban dihydrogen monoxide to do your part. So we have a pretty short episode today. Yeah, that's what the trails are, oxidane. So be careful out there, kids. Don't look up with your mouth open. Yeah, I've heard of that stuff, David, dihydrogen monoxide. I'm Aren't there some other names for it as well? Water, Jordan. It's literally water.

When it gets cold, though, some people refer to it as ice. Ah, I do have some in my kombucha right now. Speaking of things that rot your teeth and also are delicious. Right. But oxidane and dihydrogen monoxide are both names for water. Never heard the oxidane thing. You had me at oxidine. The t-shirts are still fun, though, because they make the point that people will get all riled up over stuff

without knowing any of the science behind the claims. Yeah, a funny thing about that, I sent it to one of my friends who's like super conspiracy on Instagram. And I was like, there's literally oxidane and dihydrogen monoxide coming out of these airplanes. And she was like, oh my God, that's effing terrifying. You finally believe something. Welcome to the club. And I'm just waiting for her to hear this episode and realize what it actually is. Yeah.

Those claims lead us to the fun stuff that the conspiracy theorists say, which I would love to dive into. So I'm fortunate that I've been doing my, my part. podcast, my skeptic-based show for about 12 years. And I say pretty respectful over there. You do. It drives me nuts. But as opposed to over here where I'm very disrespectful. But no, I, and so it's allowed me to create a lot of friends over there. In Camp Cook, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've developed relationships with those people, and they have incredibly crazy conspiracies, and I love them for it. But what that means is I get my own, like, personal access to, like, a private stash of crazy humans I can just reach out to

and ask them questions about what they believe. And, yeah. they know I call them my crazy humans and they often tell me I'm going to be Satan's bitch in hell. And we have a laugh and it's those kinds of relationship. That is what your show is about. So fair enough. Yeah. So the main argument we hear from the conspiracy theorists is that we clearly see chemicals being sprayed from airplanes. And when we test the soil, we find aluminum. And this is backed up by proof that giant science conferences often talk about geoengineering or ways to control the weather and alter the climate. I know I start of this episode off, joking. Shocker, I'm a comedian. But that part is actually true. Scientists are geoengineering our weather to help combat climate change. And we should be. Our Earth is heating at a rapid rate. And by the way, there are certain politicians who won't get on board with helping with climate change. So we need scientists to kind of step up and address it and push the science

and do something innovative to help combat climate change. And unfortunately, some conspiracy theorists will go to a science convention like that and they'll take videos of scientists talking freely and openly about different ideas and possible ways to deal with this. And then they play, you know, these 30 second clips out of context and out of order in a YouTube video and stir of conspiracies about what's really going on or, you know, without really understanding the science behind the presentations. We did an episode of the show a long time with episode 348 called Hacking Planet Earth. And it's about geoengineering. And I did get email after that for, from people that were like, love outside of the box thinking,

some of these ideas are really dumb because of all these knock-on effects. So I get that, but none of it was really like, no, they're going to secretly use these chemicals to control our minds. I mean, but yeah, you're right. At these conventions, scientists speak openly and freely because they're not married to their ideas. They're used to brainstorming and experimentation and throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks, and they're not afraid to toss out an idea that they haven't necessarily thought all the way through

or worked all the kinks out and have it get shot down or never go anywhere. Like, that's normal. That's science. No, that's a great point. And you're exactly right. They don't think about being filmed in a gotcha moment. They're just talking about ideas and climate change, and then they inadvertently get blasted in a conspiracy video. Okay, so you've said the trails are just water. I've done some research into this as well. I think I know what you mean, but break down what we are actually looking at because I'll be honest. My son, Jaden, the other day was like, what is that? And I was like, oh, it's an airplane. He's like, no, what is that? And he's pointing to the trail.

And I was like, it's a cloud. And he's like, that's a cloud. He points around fluffy And I'm like, oh, it's so hard to explain, especially to a two and a half year old with limited vocabulary. But I also didn't really know the answer. You're supposed to go, it's oxidain and run. Just terrify him and traumatize him as early as you can. We have to go inside and eat dinner now. Okay. So it's the same principle as you're seeing your breath on a cold day.

So the air is cold, your breath is hot, and a steam is created that you can see. It's really that simple. It's like your morning coffee being so much hotter than the air in your home. so you see a little steam rising, right? We see that pattern. So we know that hot stuff, forced with cold stuff, makes the air around it visible.

It's pretty much that simple. Yeah, okay, so a car exhaust pipe on a cold day, you get a little steam rising, sometimes a little water dripping off. Exactly. Now, take that same concept, but imagine that the exhaust

is 500 degrees Fahrenheit, and it's in atmospheric air that's at 40,000 feet, that's anywhere from minus 40 to minus 70 degrees Fahrenheit. So you have extreme cold plus extreme hot plus humidity equals clouds. When you told your son that that was clouds being made by the airplane, you were exactly right. It is literally a cloud that's being made in the moment. So that's cold, humid air up there. Yeah. So the plane is just increasing the humidity in an

already humid environment. Because when a plane comes passing through, it's hot and it's heating up the moisture in the air, which is going to be humid. The engine heats the air and pushes it into a more cold air with force. Yeah. Right. So cold moisture is sucked into the giant jet engines at high pressure. And then that pressure naturally heats the air whenever you're condensing it. That hot air then blows through the jet engine and out the exhaust into the freezing cold atmosphere, which creates those frozen crystals that are essentially serious clouds. Got it. So it's just extreme condensation done by a powerful machine. Right. And that's where they get the name contrails. That's literally what they're called. They're contrails. It stands for condensation trails.

It's just a lot of condensation. And in those conspiracy videos, they'll play a real clip from a real scientist, say something like, we do things in the stratosphere all the time. And as he says that, they show a video clip of a contrail being formed by an airplane. And I mean, it's just emotional manipulation at the hands of crafty video editing. Because as he's talking, you believe he's talking about what you're looking at on the screen. And in fact, they have these basic scientific variables that allow us to easily explain what we actually see. And it has nothing to do with experiments in the stratosphere or atmosphere, but the video producer wants to manipulate you, so that's the tactic. You think they're doing some sort of experiment up there on your soil or on the weather. Since contrails are based on all these variables, there's probably a way to mathematically predict it or at least estimate where they're going to show up depending on which jet is flying through certain parts of airspace and how high and all that stuff, right? Is that, it's got to be a thing. Yeah, yes. So when 9-11 happened and all the planes were grounded for a while, It was discovered that Contrails actually have a pretty dramatic effect on the temperature of the Earth.

So NASA has a Contrails forecasting website predicting where they will be. And you can even do it yourself with a little math and figuring out where the relative humidity will be along with general flight paths. So for anyone saying, oh, of course, NASA knows where the chemicals are going to be sprayed, you can just do a little math and you can predict which parts of the sky they're going to show up in. And the reason NASA cares and has this forecasting website is because of global warming. How do contrails affect climate? They're small. I mean, I know there's a lot of them, but they're just like these thin lines in the air. Right. So at any given time, there's about 8,000 airplanes in the sky. It'll range some low numbers, say 6 to 7,000, some are up as high as, you know, 18 to 19,000. A good solid average, a conservative estimate's about 8,000 planes in the sky at any moment. Globally.

Globally, yeah. And these contrails, or, you know, and these contrails, or these clouds produced by the planes are heating up the earth by blocking outgoing radiation that's trying to leave our planet at night. And they actually block both ways. So during the daytime, planes actually help cool the earth because it's blocking incoming radiation. Yeah, like a cloud. It's blocking the sun. Exactly. Exactly. And then at night, those same ones are like a blanket, right? As the blanket is laying over the earth, the heat is trying to leave and radiate out into the atmosphere and the contral sort of hold it in in certain pockets. So that's why NASA studies and tracks the contrails. The idea is that if we only fly during the day, the contrales will block a portion

of incoming radiation, and then if we stopped flight, say, around 4 p.m. or 6 p.m. and we didn't fly anymore during the night, the earth would actually begin to cool a little because the heat can escape better at night without extra clouds to block it. But who's going to actually shut down every flight from 4 p.m. to 3 a.m. Yeah, I mean, that's not a horrible idea. And my totally uneducated, haven't thought this through at all opinion. But when scientists talk about geoengineering, aren't they, they're mostly talking about manipulating that concept to the benefit of the planet. Right. So that's one of the things conspiracy theories latch on to is the admission from scientists that we are in fact focusing on geoengineering. What they actually mean when they say it,

is that now that we can somewhat accurately predict the location of contrails, we could alter flight paths to intentionally create contrails during the day, and then try our best to avoid making contrials at night by flying through low moisture paths to allow more radiation to escape at night and then cool the planet. So that would technically be geoengineering. Yeah, that's fascinating. So a flight may take longer, it costs a little more fuel, but the benefit, in theory, in some cases would outweigh the cost, and they could, of course, calculate all that in advance. Absolutely. And assuming we could get corporations to give a damn about the planet, which would probably have to come in the form of a tax deduction, But yeah, it's fine.

Another form of geoengineering is cloud seeding, where we kind of help it rain more than it would. But we can get into that later. I know it's going to come back in some of the challenges posed by conspiracy theories. So I'll address that in a moment. And now for some real mind control, namely a word from our sponsors.

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and that's proof of chemtrails, and they're even showing it on the radar in the local TV station. You know, what's going on with that? Yeah, so just with any conspiracy, there's always some element of truth, And there have been a few different meteorologists kind of pop up in the news talking about this. And there's one clip, though, that's used the most often. It's from 2010. And there's a weatherman who points at what looks like rain on his weather wall. And he goes, that's not rain, folks.

I assure you, military aircraft is flying through the region and dropping chaff. And then he makes a point about being in the Marines and says he knows all about it. And then he just moves on. And people freaked out about him, you know, about what he said. That got everyone up in arms. And now that clip from 2010 gets used in all. almost every Kim Chow video. And it's true. It was real. What he's talking about really happened. But Chaff is essentially glass silicate fibers that's coated with aluminum that create a radar reflective

cloud that disrupts missile technology. It's essentially anti-anaircraft missiles. So if people are trying to shoot down our aircraft, this is anti-those missiles. And sometimes they do military tests where they do drop these things and they run tests to make sure they work properly. But there's no evidence suggesting that they're, you know, taping that stuff to the bottom of Spirit Airlines to douse Albuquerque with Magic Juice. Yeah. And if that were the case, we'd see it on radar maps all the time on every weather report covering the country. Right. Another thing they say is that you can watch a plane leave chem trails and then turn them off. And then they turn them back on a few hundred meters away, which according to them shouldn't happen if it's just hot air combining with cold air. By the way,

you made a great point about that. If this was happening, it would be showing, like, you wouldn't even be able to see rain on a map, right? Every time the way, weather map came on, it would be flooded with clouds everywhere and it would constantly look like rain. It's just, it's just not feasible. But the people who say what you just said about, you know, it shouldn't be able to stop and start. Yeah. Then they just don't understand atmospheric moisture, which is just all over the place. And the existence of clouds is proof of how random moisture is on any given day. I mean, if you see clouds, there is heavier moisture there than where you don't see clouds. So just like you're driving along and you hit a few bumps here and

there in the road. When you're flying at 40,000 feet, you'll have patches of moisture and then patches of dry air. And that's essentially what's happening. So the moisture is essentially already there and the heat from the plane is just making it visible because it's blending it. It's like how jello is see-through. And then you stick a knife in it and now there's that little ripple in it. And now it's not completely transparent anymore or it's not, yeah, that's kind of what I'm- You're exactly right. So one scientist explained it by saying that the plane is like one of those magic markers that looks invisible, but it reveals the picture that was already there. So If you see a con trail, there was already moisture there.

Some refer to it as like an invisible cloud. The moisture was already there. And then when the trail stops, the cold air was drier in that section of the atmosphere. And when it starts back up, there's more moisture there again. It's just, it's that simple. Are these the only moving parts here that determine where the trails will be? It's just moisture, hot air, et cetera? Yeah, mostly.

But it also depends on the size of the plane, the type of engine. Some engines don't heat as fast or as hot as others. the composition of the exhaust could be different based on the manufacturer. Some could contain more carbon dioxide or sulfur or nitrogen or unburned fuel or just microscopic metal bits that are ground up inside the engine or water vapor. Things that come from a giant jet engine, they all play a role. So when one trail stays in the sky longer, what does that mean? It just means it's more humid in that altitude. And the ones that all spread out kind of, you know what I'm talking about? They get wider. Yeah. Yeah. That one freaks people out.

They think that that's like proof that it's all coming down. All that means is that it was very humid in that area. It was a high moisture area that increased the humidity when a jet came blasting through. And then because it was humid, a lot more crystals formed in that area. And it froze making a serious cloud. And then the humidity held it in the air while the wind blew it around for about an hour. Spreading out the particles. So what you're seeing is one that's been there a long time was really solid, really humid.

And then the wind spread it out. Some conspiracy websites, they tackle the whole size of the, the plane issue saying they've seen small planes create huge clouds of chem trails and they got it on tape. So if those engines aren't big and they're not that hot to create contrails, what's going on there? Yeah, I knew we'd get here. This is a really common claim from conspiracy theorists. And so this is what brings me back to the cloud seeding that I teased a moment ago. Areas that don't get a lot of rain or they need more rain in general can participate in what's called cloud seeding. It's S-E-E-D, like you're putting a seed in the ground, which is when a plane has

these special fittings of flares on them. And inside those, they have silver iodide inside there, which is a condensation nuclei that helps collect moisture, which basically just helps the cloud condense and form thicker clouds than it would have, and then that'll produce 15 to 30% more rain than that cloud would have done without the cloud seeding. So they're like making clouds at will, essentially? They can make clouds from scratch, but usually with giant machines, these planes are typically flying into storms of existing clouds. It's better to just start with something that's already there and kind of make it condense more, right? So they fly into storms like that because as high pressure systems move in, these cloudseaters, they wait for the signal

from the meteorologist. And the meteorologist will tell them, you know, where to go, how much to do, and they just go up and release this stuff into clouds and it makes them extra thick. Yeah, and that sounds a lot like chemtrails and geoengineering can really confirm some suspicions for some people who want chemtrails to be true. Yeah, and it's important to point out that you can see a small plane, because they always use small planes to do the cloud seating. They go up and literally squirt stuff out of their wings. And when people talk about chem trails, that's what it looks like. So there is, you could go on YouTube and look up cloud seeding, and it would look exactly how you expect it to look from quote-unquote chem trails. But using a jet to do it would be incredibly expensive

and ridiculously not worth the fuel cost. So they used the little planes that like, you know, know, fertilize areas and things like these little stunt-looking planes, small planes to do it, it at least proves in theory that it could work if the government wanted to do that. But it doesn't suggest that it would be an effective way to poison a population or commit genocide, nor does it prove any sort of motive or that anyone has even actually really started to try to poison us. All we know is that cloud seeding that takes place is very good for the people in that area because it's helping with rain and crops and it helps dry arid climates that need rain for their communities. In one documentary, there was a big deal made of elevated aluminum. I think it was like Mount Shasta in California here, showing the soil samples had like, I don't know, 61 times the recommended maximum amount of aluminum. And they claim that's because of chem trails. Have we explained that?

Yeah. So I haven't found anyone else explaining it. I got to the bottom of this issue because that was probably, that's the big thing that connects a lot of conspiracy theorists is that the government's trying to put terrible things in your body. So whether it's, you know, food splicing or the vaccine or chemtrails or whatever it is. Florida in the water. Yeah, Florida in the water. The same idea, it's like they're trying to poison us all the time for population control. And I watched that documentary. I know what you're talking about. And I watched it to address this issue.

And that claim made the rounds for a while in multiple different other videos as well, not just that when you're talking about. So I did have to do some digging. But the deal is those reports were legit. There were definitely elevated levels of aluminum in that Mount Chasta area in California. But what they conveniently leave out of the film is that if you look at the report when they briefly show the paper, if you like pause it and focus on it, it says the sample was taken July 9, 2008. Well, you can go online and you can look at reports from that area around that date and see that leading up to that,

there were hundreds of wildfires. There were extremely high winds. There was drought. The pH levels of the soil were all over the place, and nature was an absolute crisis. The Guardian cites a report from 2021 operated by the California. Air Resources Board, which is known as CARB, showing that smoke from wildfires can significantly increase the amount of hazardous toxic metals present in the air, and it can travel for miles. It goes on to say levels increased up to 50 times above the normal average, and these metal

particles can travel over 150 miles away from the fire. And there were fires in that Mount Shasta area just before the test were taken. Yeah, literally for weeks leading up to it, thousands of acres burned within and even within days of the samples being taken. I have an article here from June 29th talking about the hundreds of wildfires in the Mount Shasta area. And the samples were taken on July 9th, yeah. Right, 10 days from the article.

There's even a point in the documentary where this guy points to like this hazy sky off in the distance and he's like, it's so cloudy as if there's some sort of wildfire, but that's Kim Trails, man. And there were fires in that area for months at that time. So, of course, when the pH levels are off balance, the aluminum and acidity and the soil rises. And multiple reports show that when your soil is

acidic, the aluminum becomes soluble. It rises and it becomes detectable. And plants die, soil becomes more toxic. And if you test the soil, aluminum will spike on those tests. But the water department tested the water repeatedly in the Mount Shasta area. I confirmed it on their websites, no additional aluminum or toxic metals had made it into the actual water supply. So it's, it's so easy to confirm that the elevated levels of toxicity from aluminum must have come from the wildfires. Isn't aluminum sort of, they cite stuff about aluminum causing Alzheimer's and things like that. Yeah, there's a, there's a lady in that same documentary that just blatantly says that she comes out and says patients with Alzheimer's have elevated aluminum levels in the brain. And then

she talks about her concerns for a family member who suffered with it, and then she, of course, blames chemtrails for it. There's no evidence that aluminum is increased in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. I grabbed this from ALZ.org, which is the Alzheimer's Association website, where they answer basic sort of FAQ about the disease. And here's the quote from ALZ.org. It says, during the 60s and 70s, aluminum emerged as a possible suspect in Alzheimer's. This suspicion led to concern about exposure to aluminum through everyday sources. such as pots and pans and beverage cans and antacids and antiperspirants. But since then, studies have failed to confirm any role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer's.

And the claims about the chemicals killing the trees? What about that? Yeah, they actually go knock on the trees and pull parts off and they say that it's silver and it's metallic and it's causing the trees to die. If you watch that same documentary we're talking about it, and I don't want to promote them, I don't want to send people that direction. Yeah. But if you already know what documentary we're talking about, there's a moment where he

shows very briefly a screenshot of an article. I think the headline says trees dying in the West at record rates. The screenshot's only up there for maybe three seconds, four seconds. If you can pause it, specifically I pause it at 43 minutes and 39 seconds, you can actually read the top paragraph of the article. And if you just read that paragraph, which you have to pause to do, it says that this is linked to the rising regional temperatures, destructive forces of early snow melt, drought, forest fires and deadly insect infestations brought on by global warming in the article. So not only is the evidence right in front of their faces, they even put it on screen and just like, in classic sort of conspiracy fashion, just didn't bother reading it.

Apparently. Yeah. Look, we could go step by step and debunk each claim, but this episode's going to be seven hours long if we do that. I mean, there's so many baseless claims built in pseudoscience. A lot of it is just, most of it is just nonsense. Yeah, look, if the government wanted to sneak some shit into your body, they're much more effective ways to do it than dropping chemicals all over you. And over land that no one's using

for anything, miles of it. They literally control the water supply you shower in. Inspectors go to factories where food is processed. They could sprinkle that shit in your barbecue sauce and we'd all have it by the weekend. It could be in ketchup. It could be in your precious bottled water stuffed into hot dogs and you just be like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, without a clue in the world. So just stop with the Kim trails. It makes no sense. Yeah, geoengineering is a thing, but nobody's poisoning you. Well, actually, I mean, sorry, Doritos. Other than Doritos and all those other folks, no one's poisoning you, at least not from the sky. But hashtag band dihydrogen monoxide. Yeah. Hey, go watch my TikToks and stay skeptical, my friends. Thank you, David.

If you're looking for another episode of the Jordan Harbinger show to sink your teeth into, here's a trailer for another episode with a retired astronaut Chris Hadfield. I watched the first two people walk on the moon, and I thought, wow, I'm going to grow up to be something. Why don't I grow up to be that? That's the coolest thing ever. It is purely the direct results of all of those little minute-by-minute decisions that I made since starting when I was a kid just turning 10. When I got the telephone call asking if I would like to be an astronaut, I was at the top of my profession. I was the top test pilot in the U.S. Navy as a Canadian. And then to be selected as an astronaut, suddenly I'm a guy who knows nothing.

sit in my office and I'm like, I'm a complete imposter. I have zero skills right now. Whenever anybody has offered to teach me something for free, I've always taken them up on it. How are you getting ready for the major events in your life, the things that matter to you, the things that have consequence? Are you just sort of waving your hands? They go, oh, it probably turned out okay. Or are you actually using the time available to get ready for it? Maybe it will turn out okay. But if the stakes are high, to me, that's just not a gamble I willingly take. If at some point in life If you think you know everything you need to know, then you're just in the process of diet. What astronauts do for a living is visualize failure, figuring out the next thing that's going to kill you,

and then practice it over and over and over again until we can beat that thing. We know how to deal with it. Then you do a much better job in a more calm and comfortable way of doing it as well. You don't miss it. You're not overwhelmed by it. It's something you can do while thinking of something else. You notice how beautiful it is, how magnificent it is, how much porn it is, you're not just completely overwhelmed by the demands of the moment.

For more on how Commander Chris Hadfield managed to stay focused on his dreams, starting at age nine to become the first Canadian to walk in space, check out episode 408 of the Jordan Harbinger Show. Well, I'm glad to hear that we're not being poisoned by the government, at least not from the sky, probably in myriad other ways. But we'll leave that for other editions of Skeptical Sunday. Thanks, David. A link to the show notes for the episode can be found at Jordan Harbinger.com.

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