The Josh Innes Show - Biles v. Gaines

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Simone Biles threw some shade at Riley Gaines over the weekend regarding transgender athletes. It's fascinating that anyone wouldn't see an issue with biological males competing against women. Now..., I'm not telling you it's the most pressing issue in my life. But, the idea that a woman would fight on behalf of biological males to compete against them is strange to me. Also, Angel Reese really took one on the chin this weekend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Friends, what's going on today? It's Josh. Hello, Monday. Greetings. Lots of domestic beer yesterday while listening to sports on the radio. I love to listen to sports on the radio and sit outside and drink beer and for whatever reason sitting outside leads me to drinking faster and more. Like when I sit inside and watch sports on TV or do whatever, watch a movie and drink a couple of beers, like I will babysit and nurse outside though and you just start cranking like Bush light, Bush light, Bush light, Yahtzee roll, Bush light. And before you know it, I've had like 12 beers while playing Yahtzee and I look over at Jilly, she's had like three and I'm like what the fuck am I doing? Like what is it about sitting outside that makes gentlemen drink more alcohol?
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's just an awesome thing like I get why people sit in their garage drink beer and do whatever, sit outside drink beer like being outside and maybe it's because it's the heat maybe and this is my thought my main thought is since you're outside and it's hot your beer gets warmer faster so it's like 85 90 degrees beers gonna heat up faster so you just chug a lug because you want it when it's ice cold you want it hit in your lips when it's ice cold like that right so you chug a lug chug a lug on that bad boy and before you know it you've had you know 12-13 beers in like two hours and you're like what the fuck am I doing? But it's an enjoyable experience because you're outside and it was a beautiful day yesterday And we haven't had too many of those lately in st
Starting point is 00:01:36 Louis a lot of rain a lot of storms tornado warnings constantly so you sit outside You have some beers and you enjoy life and play Yahtzee and listen to random college baseball games that you bet on on the radio. Listen to the Cardinals get their ass kicked by the Dodgers. That's what I enjoy. I prefer listening to a sporting event, baseball particularly, like football on the radio I don't really enjoy or basketball, but baseball on the radio outside beer, Yahtzee, smoking some pork. It's a nice little Sunday man and the thing is I've
Starting point is 00:02:11 lost track of the days like when I woke up this morning I thought today was Sunday. It's not. It's Monday. It's another week. So let's get rocking. Let's play some commercials and we will get into some stuff. The NBA Finals are finally here and after spending the playoffs all over the Pick Six app from DraftKings, well, we're ready for the championship round and this is your last shot to win some real cash before the season ends. The simplest way to get in on the action is downloading the Pick Six app from DraftKings and it's super simple.
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Starting point is 00:03:57 All right, so there was beef over the weekend between Simone Biles and Riley Gaines. Now everybody knows who Simone Biles is. She's won a billion medals in gymnastics and Riley Gaines has become famous because she was a swimmer. I believe it was at Kentucky or Florida. She was an SEC swimmer lost in the SEC Championship to a biological male and has become a crusader to protect women in sports. That's kind of her thing.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And apparently Simone Biles is not a fan of this person. Simone Biles throws a jab at Riley Gaines over the weekend saying that she's basically a bully for going after all of these transgender athletes. And then she made a really like, you know, like when you're talking to people who aren't accustomed to being like, like the bad guy or being the person taking shots, because she delivered a very strange insult, which was like pick on somebody your own size, which ironically would be a man as
Starting point is 00:05:03 if like this woman's eight feet tall or something. She's not. Riley Gaines is like five foot five, five foot four, something like that. Simone Biles is a very small person, but it's just a weird jab and it's just it's weird to me watching people fight for this transgender fight if that makes sense. Now on one side, I agree when they say that you're dealing with a very small number of people when you're dealing with transgender athletes in sports and that is true. I mean it is a very small thing and it's an odd fight when there's not a ton of people involved
Starting point is 00:05:41 in it, right? But it's the fight that right-wing people have really latched on to the Clay Tra's the Riley Gaines all these people and they've latched on to this idea of protecting girls sports yes the same right-wing people who make fun of women's sports all the time are now the ones that are saying hey we must defend women's sports that's what they do and I get it and I'm on their side on it to a degree I just don't think it is as pressing an issue as they've made it, but it's something that they can latch onto and grab onto and continue to hammer and that's
Starting point is 00:06:15 what they do. It's it's one of their main rallying points is that transgender, you know, biological men and women sports needs to stop. It's just not something that happens all that often, right? So, I'm on their side that if you are a biological male, you should not be competing against women or girls and you should not be in girls' locker rooms. But they hammer this like it's the most pressing issue in the fucking world and it really isn't. Now, when you start getting to like,
Starting point is 00:06:44 you know, people wearing dresses and putting on wigs and going into locker rooms like that's where I think it's a bigger issue. Like again you're not seeing a ton of transgender athletes in sport in men's and women's sports. Now that could change if you continue to allow it obviously. So again I'm in the camp of people that say no like if you're a biological male, sorry, this is unfortunate, but you can't run track against girls. Like this is the thing, and it's factual. It's reality, and this party of science ignores
Starting point is 00:07:15 some very important science. Remember they tell you to trust the science. The science will tell you, the biology will tell you that men are just bigger, stronger, faster than women. So if you are a biological male, you can take all the hormones, do all the shit you want to do and transition to a woman, have at it. But you're still going to be a more gifted physical specimen than a woman would be. That's not to rip on women. That's reality. And the problem is we
Starting point is 00:07:41 have a group of people who tend to ignore this. And it's so weird hearing someone who's a world class athlete doing this. Like what if Simone Biles never became Simone Biles because a biological man was out there doing tons of flipsy dipsies and shit and beat Simone Biles therefore Simone Biles never became the Simone Biles that we know. Like it's shit like that that fascinates me. Like it's one thing when like Clay Travis is beating on the door for this shit or some right-wing politician or
Starting point is 00:08:07 some right-wing analyst is doing this. It's another thing when someone who's a world-class female athlete who knows that men are a more physical specimen than women and she's like stop being bullies. Well it's really easy to do that when you ain't doing shit anymore either. Like if you play the sport on a day in day out basis, if you were a basketball player for instance, you probably wouldn't want to be going up against a man on a daily basis, probably, right? When you're an Olympic medalist, I don't even know if she does anything anymore, but it's easy to sit back and then take this kind of high road, this moral high road,
Starting point is 00:08:44 this easy route in this argument and say why don't you just leave people alone and blah blah blah. It's easy to do that when you're not in it on a daily basis. What would have happened if you when you were high school gymnast or you know you were in college as a gymnast and there was a biological man that was kicking everybody's ass. And the other thing that I think is unfair and it's just so wild how vicious and vile these people can get. You know again we're talking about the political party of being nice and the political party of understanding people and acceptance and these people fucking destroy this Riley Gaines and basically paint her as someone who created like this movement because she was mad that she lost because she's a loser. She lost to a fucking dude. Like
Starting point is 00:09:28 again, how would Simone Biles feel if she was a like you could find a basic ass dude like a basic bottom tier male gymnast that would probably beat the shit out of Simone Biles in whatever the fuck it is. She does gymnastics gymnastics wise it like that's the thing that's fascinating is these people are so consumed by the internet and the likes and being afraid to have any kind of opinions that left-wing people would get angry about or be considered transphobic or whatever that they will say dumb shit and people will agree with the dumb shit and it's fascinating. Think about the fact
Starting point is 00:10:03 that you've got a world-class gymnast that's shitting on another female athlete. You know how they always say that like there's this perception that women hate other women and it's really just perpetrated or perpetuated by men? Bullshit! Women do hate women. Look at Simone Biles shitting on Riley Gaines and calling her a loser and saying she only cares about this because she lost to a man. Well, yeah, you'd be pretty pissed off too if you felt you were cheated out of something. If you felt you were cheated out of something that you rightfully deserved, you would be pissed off too. So all these people that come at
Starting point is 00:10:36 this Riley Gaines and they're like, she's just a loser. Like Keith Olbermann like rants on this woman when he does his little shit from his balcony looking like a fucking wacko. Guys like Keith Olbermann, like dudes who are like supposed to be the understanding, liberal, progressive, woke people are just going after this woman and calling her a loser and saying she's only mad because she lost. Yes, she's mad because she lost to a dude. This isn't difficult. So watching these people yell about this and shit on this woman, like do I think Riley Gaines handles things
Starting point is 00:11:10 in kind of a see you next Tuesdayish way sometimes? Yes, I do. Like I can see where people would look at her and go, ah, she's kind of a bitch. I get that. But that doesn't mean the message is wrong. Now, I would imagine that she's kind of become addicted to the attention she gets from this too, because it's impossible not to. It is impossible to not, like it is impossible to not change the way you view yourself when everything you tweet gets hundreds of thousands of likes and retweets, and you are the face of a movement. It's impossible to not be in that headspace.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It is impossible to not have an altered opinion of oneself when all you have to do is put out a tweet and you are guaranteed thousands of likes and retweets on it because you are the face of this movement. So I think part of that is you start to believe your own bullshit and you start to believe the hype of yourself and that's just that's natural. That's the kind of shit that happens because people are addicted to the likes and the retweets and all that shit. So like I get that but like to me here's what I'd like to see happen. To me this would be
Starting point is 00:12:16 the ultimate. Let's cut out all the shit about men, biological men and women's sports and all that shit. Let's make every professional sports league co-ed. That's what I'm signing up for and I'm not talking about oh there's an option for women to play because like Joe and Philly sent me a tweet the other day was like well there's nothing that keeps women from playing men's sports. No I want it to be a rule that there needs to be a certain number of men and women on each team and I just want to watch and look I look I have nothing against women they're wonderful but let's just shut this shit up for once and for all and put men on the floor against women men and women in basketball co-educational shit I want to see uh I say
Starting point is 00:12:58 co-educational but co-ed shit I want to see the j backing down Angel Reese. That's what I want to see. That is my dream. I want to see Jokic and I want to see Anthony Davis and I want to see LeBron backing down Angel Reese or Caitlin Clark and then maybe people will finally shut the fuck up. And I'm not against women. I'm not against women's sports. I don't give a shit. Here's what I'm against. I'm against the constant bitching and carping about this shit. Put your fucking money where your mouth is. Make basketball coed, make football. I want to have at least three women on each football team. When there's 11 people on the field, three of them have to be women.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Let's fucking go. Because it's funny that we live in this fantasy world where there are things that are truly reality. Reality is that I could go out there, 38-year-old Josh Ennis, bad knees, one foot smaller than the other, I could go out on a WNBA court today and get buckets. That is reality. You can laugh, you can mock me, and you can say you're full of shit. I could go out there. If I were up against Angel Reese Reese I could back Angel Reese down in the post and hit baskets. Why because men even shitty average Slovenly men like myself have an athletic advantage over women. It's not it's not hateful It is science. So stop telling me about science and trust the science when biology
Starting point is 00:14:23 Science tells you that all of these are pieces of reality. This is reality. Women are inferior athletically to men in terms of build, in terms of muscle, all that shit. This isn't difficult. And you sound like an asshole when you make this argument, but it's just reality. Trust the science. But every day we hear about, you know, well, there's no real advantage for being a biological male running against women. The fuck there isn't! There's no real benefit to being a biological male and swimming against women. The fuck it isn't!
Starting point is 00:14:56 If men and women weren't different physically, then why are there fucking lady tees? And why are there old men tees? These are the questions. So again, Why are they fucking lady tees and why are there old men tees? These are the questions. So again, women's sports are fine. It's just interesting watching women fight with each other over whether or not biological dude should be competing against them. Like we're in a fucking simulation. It is wild what we're witnessing with people watching grown ass women who've won championships fighting with each other.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like you all it's so easy to sit there and say that on the internet when you're not going to be competing against a man. Give me a biological male against Simone Biles and see who would win in this shit. Every time it would be a fucking man. Every time. And she's out here fighting with this chick and saying the weirdest jab ever of someone your size, which ironically would be a man. You know what a five foot man, a five foot five man is? Someone who got picked on a lot
Starting point is 00:15:53 because a five foot five man ain't a tall man, missy, sister. Not the case at all. Talk about her like she's fucking Andre the giant or something. Like has a size 17 shoe. Like what are you doing? Anywho, so that's that's it's funny. Like I just like watching people destroy each
Starting point is 00:16:18 other because they're morons. It's the same reason I like watching the WNBA eat itself because they can't handle prosperity. We talked about this the other day about how the WNBA is kind of like Brooks and Shawshank like he got out, couldn't handle getting out, so Brooks was here, right? WNBA cannot handle prosperity. The WNBA is like redneck family that wins the lottery and just does more rednecky shit with the money and
Starting point is 00:16:42 ends up broke. Like that's the WNBA. You just are what you are. The attention just reveals who you are. Speaking of, while we're diving into women's sports for a second here, Kaitlyn Clark didn't play against the Chicago Sky over the weekend. The tickets went from being like $1,000 apiece to being $6 on the resale market. They moved this game to the United Center anticipating Caitlin Clark. She obviously didn't play because she's injured and it was hysterical. Now Angel Reese had her moment. She could have had a big moment and she's at home. She's in front of 18,000 people at the United Center. Sold out game,
Starting point is 00:17:21 all this shit. This was your big moment because hey, you're a star of league they're not just watching for Caitlin Clark they're watching for Angel Reese too and she wants y'all to understand that. What did Angel Reese do in this game? She scored four points and her team lost by 30. Congratulations you really went out there and showed them. the Chicago Fire of MLS scored seven goals on Saturday. The Chicago Fire soccer team outscored Angel Reese in the city of Chicago over the weekend. Hey, but I just want you to know people are watching this basketball for me too and I want you all to realize that. You got to go out there and like you guys want to be treated like the men, you want to be paid like the men, then you're gonna get criticized like the men. Like if Draymond Green goes out and talks shit and plays poorly, people criticize him. Well, you talk a lot
Starting point is 00:18:14 of shit, you think you're big shit, you think you are the WNBA, you and all your fucking friends, well you had your opportunity with no Caitlin Clark on the floor to go out there and compete against the fever and you lost by 30 at home. Feel bad for all those dopey dads who probably bought these tickets for their daughter to go see Caitlin Clark. They're like listen honey here's your birthday gift you get to see Caitlin Clark. Then Caitlin Clark doesn't play the tickets dad spent $500 on are now worth a nickel and he gets to watch Angel Reese score four points and get beaten by thirty.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Dads deserve more credit. Anyway, more to come.

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