The Josh Innes Show - CFP and Coach Prime To The NFL

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

I really dislike the College Football Playoff TV Show. I know it's made for tv, but people care too much about this bracket. Nothing is close to being determined. I've actually grown fond of Coach Prime. Could he be a successful NFL coach? I'd like to see him try in New Orleans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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because it doesn't matter until the last one of them. But I see people all worked up over it, and that's why they do it. That's why they do this every week so people will tune in and watch and be upset that their team's not in, or they'll see that their team's in, and they'll assume that, well, all we got to do is keep winning, and we're in. Like, no, not necessarily. A lot of shit can change in the next couple of weeks, and that's what happens when you have people, still people determining

who's in a tournament and not actually what happens on the field determining who's in a tournament and not actually what happens on the field determining who's in a tournament like I get that if you win your conference and you're in a major conference you're going to get in I understand that but when it comes to at large type of bids much like the NCAA tournament it's determined by people by committees by a group of jamokes that have biases that's why we got to get people out of this stuff. Like, like I kind of liked the BCS because the BCS was a computer and the BCS that hadn't been around forever, but the BCS was a computer and computers don't have biases. You throw in data, they spit out who the fucking best team is and you go. Now, sometimes that could be to the detriment because

you could have a situation where a team starting quarterback gets hurt, but the, you know, so they're not available, but the computer doesn't know that, blah, blah, blah. But as we saw last year, people who have biases kept a team out of the championship because their quarterback was hurt. So I see people getting all worked up over this, and it's just like, sit back and wait. Wait for a couple weeks. The only reason they put this stuff out is because they need programming on a Tuesday night, so they fill an hour, and they get people all worked up like, oh my god, can you believe this team is in, this team is in. By the end of the year, it will work itself out, and yes, there will be teams who felt like they got screwed. That's always going to be

the case. The NCAA tournament has damn near 80 teams in it now and some dopey teams feel like they got screwed so that's how this is going to be what is the actual setup for it right now like what is the the bracket that we're looking at I'm gonna I'll engage and I'll look at it like I'll tell you what teams I think have the the criteria or should fit the criteria to be in but again none of this matters at this point because there's still conference championship games that have to be played, and conference champions will get automatically in when you're in the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12.

So it's absurd that we're even breaking this down, but okay, what do we got? So currently the top four, which would get buys, would be Oregon. And Oregon is going to, they're locked into the Big Ten championship game, correct? Yes, but we don't know who they're going to play. More than likely it's either going to be, well, or Indiana hasn't lost yet. Do they play Ohio State? This weekend. Okay, there you go. So when that game is

all said and done, well then again, I don't know what their tiebreaker scenario is, but Indiana hasn't lost a conference game and Ohio State has. So if Ohio State beats them, each team has one conference loss, I don't know what the tiebreaker scenario would be for Indiana and Ohio State in that case. But let's be real. And maybe I'm unfairly judging Indiana because it's Indiana. Ohio State has played a tougher schedule than Indiana has. But on the other hand, Indiana just plays who's on the schedule.

But if you're Indiana and you get to the conference, actually, here's another point. If you're Indiana, let's say you lose this weekend, right? So you're out of the running essentially or probably out of the running for the conference championship. Wouldn't it behoove you then to just sit back and watch Ohio State play another game in the conference championship against Oregon

and lose to Oregon again and give them another loss, which would make you look better in theory. And they claim they're going to take into consideration teams that do make the championship, even if they lose a conference championship. But who knows? Who knows? These people don't have to tell you anything or any of their criteria. They're all full of shit. If you're curious, Ohio State's path to the Big Ten title game, they need to win their remaining two, which are Indiana and Michigan. If they do curious, Ohio State's path to the Big Ten title game, they need to win their remaining two, which are Indiana and Michigan. If they do that, they're in. Simple enough.

If Indiana wants to get in, they need to beat Ohio State or if they lose to Ohio State, they would need Michigan to upset Ohio State in the final week of the season. So in the Big Ten, there's only three teams that can make the conference championship game, basically, right? And one of them is already locked in with Oregon.

And then you've got Ohio State and Indiana, and those are the two teams most likely to get into the conference championship game. And even then, let's just say Indiana loses one game. You want to tell me that Indiana doesn't have a case to be an at-large? But then again, their schedule blows. So like, I... Technically, Penn State could get in. I forgot about Penn State, but yes. But as of right now, Indiana and Ohio State essentially both control their own destiny because Ohio State's beaten Penn State. So obviously they control their own destiny.

So again, there's a couple of weeks left. We'll see. But just like this idea, like everything about it annoys me that people get all worked up over this stuff. The Big Ten would have the number one seed in the playoff tournament. That would be Oregon right now. And that would just be based on where they're ranked in the college football playoff rankings. Okay, got it.

Number two in the – I'm not giving you rankings, by the way. I'm giving you the playoff. Gotcha. Again, none of – and I feel stupid doing this. I feel dumb. I feel like a moron breaking this down because they spent an hour doing this yesterday. None of it matters because, again, you read this and you think, oh, well, we're in. All we got to do is win.

But there's so many other elements that go into it. It's people determining this. It's bullshit. But anyway, all right. So number two seed would be Texas. And you can make an argument that if you look at who Texas has played and who Texas has lost to and their schedule. Texas's schedule is not like juggernautville, right? Like Texas has been okay, and they still have to play Texas A&M, which will help that, and they've played Georgia.

But outside of that, Texas has played a relatively mild schedule. Then we have Miami. No, but they're assuming Texas as the conference champion in this case. They're assuming Texas as the conference champion, which there's a way they could if they lose to A&M, and I don't think they're in it. No, no. So because of other teams that have two losses in the SEC.

I have that little website where I was breaking it down to see what LSU had to do to get in. Obviously, that doesn't matter anymore, but there is a website where you can pick the games for the next two weeks in the SEC and see how it bears out. I didn't know this until a couple of weeks ago, but the tiebreaker for the SEC, since it's not a since the round robin as opposed to a it's not a full on round robin, but it's not divisions anymore. It's just one big conference. They take the opponent's conference winning percentage or

something like that to determine the tiebreaker. It's not like head-to-heads. So the first tiebreaker is opponent winning percentage in the conference. And that's why LSU had an advantage on there. Had they beaten Florida this week, which they didn't because they got beaten by Florida because LSU is terrible. But so that factors in there as well. Then they have number three would be the winner of the ACC, which is Miami currently, who's their projection. God, Miami's played one of the worst schedules. They're not good. They've had to escape four or five times, and I get you win your conference, you're going to be in, you're in the ACC. But if you just wanted to ask me who the 12 best teams are, and it didn't have to do with a power five or a group of six, whatever all this shit is,

if it was just the top 12 teams, I don't know that I believe that Miami is one of the top 12 teams in college football I believe they have a really good quarterback and I believe they've gotten fucking lucky a whole bunch so whatever but their schedule is unimpressive to me the ACC overall is unimpressive and if Miami's the best team in that unimpressive league, fine. But they do nothing for me. Well, and it's funny because I think in the actual, the rankings, Miami is like number eight. That's what I'm saying.

They would have a number three seed because in this hypothetical would be a conference champion. Which I'm fine with if the system is that the four teams that win the conferences get the bye, then fine. I'm cool with that. If that's the top four seeds because of that, rock on. I'm fine with it.

And then currently number four would be Boise State. They would get a bye. And honestly, who the fuck's Boise State played? You know what I'm saying? Nobody. But it is what it is. I don't believe Boise is one of the top 12. They have a really good running back that scores a bunch of touchdown

and runs for a lot of yards. I don't believe Boise State is one of the 12 best teams in the country. Because, so they're projecting BYU to win the big 12, but they're ranked lower than Boise State. Thus, Boise State would be in the top four conference champions, and they get the bye, not BYU. I like BYU. I mean, they blew the game last week, and really, BYU should have two losses. They lost this week, and they really should bye, not BYU. I like BYU. I mean, they blew the game last week.

Really, BYU should have two losses. They lost this week, and they really should have lost to Utah. They were gifted the win against Utah, and Utah's not very good, but that was their rivalry game. So really, BYU is very fortunate to be where they are. What does Coach Prime have to do to win the Big 12? Is he still in the running? I mean, obviously, right?

He wins out, and he's in the conference championship. I find myself rooting for Coach Prime now. Last year I liked it initially. Then I found it to be annoying because everybody kept blowing the guy even though they were terrible. Now they're beating teams. I'm enjoying him. I like the little relationship he's got with the old lady

that likes the team that's 100 years old. I like Shador. I like – what's his name? What's the – Hunter. Hunter. I like him. So I'm into it.

I'm contemplating making the drive to Kansas City to go watch Coach Prime in their, I guess, their last game of the year is against Kansas at Kansas. Oh, well, I guess we won't do that then. Where's the Big 12 championship game? I would assume it's not in Kansas City. It's probably somewhere where there's a dome

obviously the big 10 one is in indianapolis and the one in um the sec is in atlanta the big 10 big 12 football championship is that arrowhead well shit let's just hold off wait one says arrowhead one says arlington let's go let's see sports.com there you go so it is they say arlington all right so it's down in Dallas. So obviously we're not going to go to that. But I'm into the whole Coach Prime thing this year. And you know what? I saw a story today, and who knows how true it is and whatever.

But there's this idea that Coach Prime would be willing to go to the pros if he could draft his kid. And last year I would have thought that's preposterous, this is stupid. But now I'm kind of into it. I kind of dig it it but we'll get into that in a second but continue so oregon texas miami and boise state as conference champions would be getting the buy yeah your first round games would be byu at ohio state that's fun and these are actually home games yes correct byu at ohio state alabama at notre dame fucking notre dame like why no they should And these are actually home games. Yes, correct. BYU at Ohio State, Alabama at Notre Dame. Fucking Notre Dame.

They should make Notre Dame either be in a conference or you can't play in this. The fact that you don't play in a conference should impact whether or not you can get into this thing. Fuck Notre Dame. They do have one disadvantage in that they can never get a bye. Correct, but it still sucks. It's still an advantage. All all you gotta do is play all the dopes you play every year some years your schedule is going to be tougher because USC may be good or or some of the teams you play yearly may be good but then you're going to play the service academies and a bunch of dopes and by the way losing to northern Illinois like if like here's the rule if you don't play in a

conference you should have to go undefeated, or you cannot lose to fucking Northern Illinois. That should be a rule. If you lose to Northern Illinois and you don't play in a conference, you should not be allowed to be in this tournament. You suck at that point. And you play a bunch of dopes. You lose to Northern Illinois. You've played a bunch of dopes for most of this year.

Screw off. So, BYU-Ohio State, the winner of that would play Boise State. Alabama-Notre Dame, the winner of that would play Boise State Alabama Notre Dame the winner of that would play Oregon well Alabama Oregon it's like the tournament never changed then there's Georgia at Penn State another first round match see the this is why this is sexy home games like Penn State's not very good they're fine and their quarterback's okay but like that's sexy I really don't think Georgia's any good is the problem. It's a sexy matchup when you look at the two names, the two brands,

Georgia and Penn State. I think Georgia sucks. I think for what Georgia thinks Georgia is, I think the quarterback stinks. I think he's middling. They don't have the weapons that they've had in recent years either. I don't get it. So I don't even know that Georgia's going to get into this thing. We'll see. But I'm against Georgia.

But a name, at least the two sexy names, you get a playoff, home playoff game with Georgia and Penn State, it looks real good, but I don't know how good either one of those teams really are. I wonder if that would get Miami, hypothetically. And I think Miami sucks. And then the last home playoff game would be Ole Miss at Indiana. If Ole Miss is doing things right,

Ole Miss could make a run through that. Jackson Dart can play. I mean, I know they lost at LSU, and LSU after that basically went on to be horrible. But when they got things going right, Ole Miss is fun, and Ole Miss can move the ball. Now, again, they've also lost to Kentucky. They've also lost to LSU, so we'll see. And Indiana is the one that I don't – they have a play there. I think they're going to get beat pretty good this weekend. Well, that would be – I think they're a double-digit underdog, right? Like 12 or 13 points. So if they lose that, that would kind of be a kill shot for them,

even though it would only be one loss, even though they'd still have an outside chance of making the conference championship. That's going to kill them as an at-large. If they go out – because people have already questioned what they are um i've already questioned who they are as a you know whether or not their schedule's worthwhile who they've beaten like they have been judged pretty harshly on all that and they really haven't beaten anybody so if they lose this and they lose it handily that committee of people's going to look at indiana and say hey guess what you're a bridesmaid in this case. You're still Indiana.

Congrats on beating a bunch of stiffs. But you had your opportunity against Ohio State. Look, if they beat Ohio State somehow this weekend, even if they go to the conference championship game and lose, you could make a case for them because they beat Ohio State. At least it's one quality win for them. At least they'd have an argument. If they lose this week and don't get into the conference championship and they get blown out in this game, Indiana's donezo in that case. So anyway, so there's the college football

playoff, which again, these rankings are all a farce as it stands today. None of it really matters. A lot of shit can change. So even breaking it down is stupid. It's made for television. People tune in. They get all worked up about their team. Sports talk, radio talk about it. Again, Indiana currently is one of the teams in this college football playoff. Guess what?

You go into that, you lose this weekend, you're kaput. You're not going to win the conference, and they're not going to put in a team like Indiana who loses to the one good team they played beating nobody. So that's why Indiana right now doesn't matter. Next week, you'll have a better idea of that. So anyway, let's play a few commercials from businesses that I have no idea who they are, and then we'll talk about Prime for a second. All right, if you're ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs, you got to check out Pick 6 from DraftKings. When it comes to basketball payouts, DraftKings Pick 6 posterizes the competition, including

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into it for a while so like here's what's interesting about me sometimes i can be kind of hoodwinked or kind of sucked into someone who has a big personality even if they seem fake which prime does at times he seems to be like a fake like televangelist type of guy but i'll find myself inspired by him at times and this year i think they've kind of toned shit down a little bit it's not as obnoxious as it was last year people aren't talking about them as much it's easy to like teams when they're not being talked about as much and they're winning like last year they weren't winning and everybody fucking talked about them and it was easy to hate them this year they're flying under the radar they lost early so people were kind of off the bandwagon again and now all they're doing is beating teams every week they line up every week they beat

somebody so um i'm enjoying the coach prime experience this year and i hope he gets into the college football playoff somehow because that'd be a fucking blast because he's fun and he's got a big personality. They score a bunch of points. His kid can play. It's not hard. They have to beat Kansas this weekend.

And Kansas has like seven losses, so they can beat Kansas. Now, Kansas has been close in most of their games. They've got a quarterback named Jalen Daniels who can play. I mean, we just saw it this last week. They beat BYU. So it's not unthinkable for them to lose that game I would imagine that the spread isn't that fast okay so three-point favorites it's totally doable and then they have to beat Oklahoma State at home and Oklahoma State's awful so again you win those you're in the conference and then you're in the conference championship game, correct? You win that, you go, and you play against BYU.

BYU, who lost to Kansas. So that's a team that you'll have the matchup against a team who you had just beaten and that they had lost to. So, that BYU had lost to. So, again, then you're getting in. You know, that's why, again, that college football playoff thing doesn't matter all that much because you look at it now, and right now the Big 12 champion is BYU. By this time next week, BYU will have a different team they're probably going to have to face in the Big 12 championship game.

Colorado can actually get in this week if they beat Kansas and BYU and Utah both win. Gotcha. Okay, who's Utah playing? Utah is playing Iowa State. Okay, and Utah. God, I hate the both win. Gotcha. Okay, who's Utah playing? Utah is playing Iowa State. Okay, so, and Utah. God, I hate the Utah coach. Yeah. So, we'll see.

But either way, they're going to get in. And BYU's playing Arizona State. As long as they don't blow it. Now, again, it's a close spread in this thing, and Kansas can beat them. Kansas's record is not something you should look at and go, uh-oh, Kansas sucks, this should be an easy win. It's not, because Kansas had three or four games this year that they very well could have won.

I think they're three and seven maybe on the year, four and six, but they very well could have two or three more wins in there that would have them as a 500-bowl type of team right now, so keep that in mind. But back to Deion. So I saw a story today. Now, Deion yesterday had to address all these rumors and speculation about whether or not he would go to the pros or not, whether he wanted to. And he said, my kickstand is down. And by that, I mean, I'm here. But again, you said that you were at Jackson State. You were at Jackson State. Like, you can't believe coaches, particularly you can't believe college coaches. They all lie. His best friend Nick Saban said he's not going to coach Alabama. He coaches Alabama. He's not going to be the coach of the Dolphins. He's the coach of the Dolphins. So you can't believe college coaches. They are basically born liars. That's

how they become successful. You have to be a liar essentially to be successful in college football. So you got to be somewhat dishonest. So would it be unheard of or unthinkable for Deion to leave after he said he's not leaving? Of course not. Do I believe that he's happy right now? Sure. A lot of people are in situations where they're happy and they're enjoying it. And then something comes along that's better and you go, okay. If he wants a 100 year old Miss Peggy to die on his hands, then leave. Okay. But- That'll kill her. Here's the thing about Dion though. He can be so full of shit, but no one will ever call him

on being full of shit because they're afraid of him. They're petrified of Deion. So Deion this whole time could say, my kick stands down and I'm staying here. But then he can spin it in a way where, hey, this other job came up and I want it. Do I think Deion would leave for another college job? I don't know. Could he leave for Florida State if it were open? He I mean, could it be? Sure. Would it be fun if Deion were in the SEC? Sure. I don't know, though. Here's another thing that's important to note. It'd be fun to coach in the SEC, but you know what else is fun is coaching at Colorado. And if you can keep getting dudes to play there, look who else is in the Big 12. Nobody. So you could have the fast track. You could run the Big 12 or you can come down to the SEC where five or six teams every year could win the whole thing. So maybe you've got a good situation there. But as far as the story I read today was, you know, there's speculation that Dion may be willing to go pro if a team would let him take his kid. I'm a Saints fan. The Saints are one of the handful of teams, probably more than a handful of teams who are going to be looking for head coaches this offseason. Jets are going to need a coach. Jaguars are going to need a coach. Cowboys are going to need a coach. Giants are going to need a coach. Maybe Cincinnati is going to need a coach. I mean, there's going to be five, six, seven teams that are going to be looking for coaches because there's five or six teams looking for coaches every year. And as someone who supports the New Orleans Saints, despite the fact that we suck, the Saints should be looking at Deion and they should be doing anything possible to get Deion to come to New Orleans and draft his kid. Now, here's the problem with the Saints right now, because the Saints are the worst. The Saints have won two games in a row since they fired Dennis Allen. Now the coach, the Riz,

the Rizzy, who clogged the toilets, they're winning too much now, and they're trying to work themselves out of having a high draft pick, or at least a higher draft pick. It would be a perfect scenario for me to see the Saints go get Deion and then go draft his kid. I don't give a shit at this point. I don't care about the nepotism. I don't care that Deion may be a failure as a pro coach. And I think there's something to that. I think you can be Deion and you can sell people on the fact that you're Deion and sell 18-year-old kids on the fact that you're Deion. It's easier to control kids, even though it's more difficult now than it was five, six, 10 years ago, because these kids are all making money now and it's harder to control these guys, if you will. But if you're

Dion, you go pro, you're dealing with other people making millions of dollars. Maybe your act doesn't work with them, but maybe it does. But if I'm the saints and I've gone through the last four years or so without Sean Payton, and I've had Dennis Allen who sucks, and I've had Derek Carr who sucks, and I have a team that's not really competitive, I'm all about the gimmick at this point. Go get me Deion. Let Deion bring the fun back to New Orleans. Bring his kid in. Let's see if his kid could be good. Maybe his kid will suck. Maybe his kid will be a total joke. Maybe he'll be awful in the pros, but you know what? I'm willing to take that risk because why the hell not? What's the alternative? Derek Carr. You tried giving Derek Carr money. Guess what? He's not very good. So I'm all for this. Now,

the reality is he's not going to coach the Saints. The Saints are probably going to win six games this year and decide that was just enough to keep the Rizzy instead of going out and building some new thing with a new coach and GM. They'll just keep this jamoke that clogged the toilet. None of it will matter. But I'd love to see Dion in the pro game. Again, will it work? Will it translate? I don't know. Keep this in mind. You look at, we talked about the Harbaughs the other day. Jim Harbaugh was a college coach before he went to coach San Francisco, right? He coached at San Diego State, I think is where he was the head coach, or San Diego State. And he ends up going pro. Then he leaves and takes the Michigan job. That's a dude who was able to do it in the college game, do it in the pro game, and do it. Nick Saban didn't suck as a

pro coach. He didn't love it because he couldn't control the players like he could. They're all making millions of dollars. Maybe the message didn't translate as well with those guys. But he did win like eight games one year, seven games. He might've gone nine and seven one year. Now some guys are just rah-rah college coaches and just can't be a pro coach. Like the old ball coach Spurrier, he couldn't do it. That's not what Spurrier was built to do. Some guys are just rah-rah guys, but Deion's played in the pros. Deion knows how to talk to dudes. Like I think Deion could actually translate to a pro coach. Now, would it be successful? Maybe.

But I think that guys would respect him. I think he carries enough cachet with dudes in the locker room where a Hall of Fame dude that's won at the college level now, that's played at a high level, played baseball, a successful guy. I think they'll react to a guy like that and go, okay, like I respect that. Like some guys can be hard ons, but they don't have the skins on the wall or they don't have the player type of mentality. They haven't had the success as a player where people would listen to them. Some guys are just hard ons and guys mock them for

being hard ons. Like this guy's a dipshit, right? I don't think they view Dion that way. And I think Dion would hire good people around him and just be the guy that gets out of the way and would be successful that's why i would like to see him in new orleans and i'd also like to see him in new orleans because i'm a fan also return to amish is also now on television again like throwback thursday this is so apparently tomorrow the breaking amish show is back on return to Amish has been on like this whole time. But that says Throwback Thursday. So like I think they're throwing, again, sorry for the randomness. We're still watching TLC in here.

So by the way, did we get an update or did we find out what exactly happened to our man? Not the penis guy, but the guy that was in the... As I read on the last podcast, he had a small stroke. Yes, but you also started, after we ended the podcast, you said that he was in jail for something? He was in jail before the show. Oh, okay. It inspired his first EP.

He still makes music. And he was in jail for skipping child support? Yep, yep, yep. Got ourselves a winner there. So there you have it. All right, so anyway, nice chat, folks. We're going to watch some basketball tonight, a little Grizzlies.

I got to bet on the Grizzlies tonight on their team total against the 76ers and some other stuff. So we shall reconvene later.