The Josh Innes Show - Chiefs Fans Are The Saddest Bunch

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

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All righty, friends. So since it's Tuesday, we are now two days after the Bills and the Chiefs. Really, no one's talking about the Commanders and the Eagles. Eagles bloom out. Nobody's really shocked that the Eagles are in the Super Bowl. No one's really shocked that the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl either. Chiefs-Eagles seem like a likely matchup. So here we are, Chiefs and Eagles. But I live in Missouri and I live in St. Louis, which is a town that I actually genuinely feel bad for because they have the,

is this a unique distinction? I'm not positive if this is the only city that's lost two NFL teams. I'm not positive on that. Maybe some others have, but I'm fairly certain that this is the one city in the country that at least in modern era. I mean, you want to talk about in the time I've been alive, I am 38. I was born August 11th, 1986. In the time I've been alive, the city of St. Louis over 38 years has lost two professional football teams. I know if you're listening in Houston, you know about the pain of losing your football team. If there's anybody in Nashville listening, you know what it's like to get to steal somebody's football team.

You didn't lose one. So good for you, Nashville. You continue to thrive. But here in St. Louis, it is still a hot button point of contention. And like I fuck with St. Louis a lot and I'm a Cardinals fan, as you know, but a diehard Cardinals fan. And even though I bitch about them and yell and whatever, that was kind of the fascinating thing here is like somehow the people didn't respond to being angry about the team being bad. Like if the Cardinals were doing what they're doing and they were a team in Philadelphia, people would have been totally fine with my reaction to it. But here, these people just had no interest in a guy being angry about the Cardinals on the

radio. And I'm like, yeah, maybe this isn't for me here. I'm sorry that my passion results in me being loud, but whatever. So they've lost two football teams here. Football Cardinals, the Big Red went to Arizona, and of course the Rams, who they took from Los Angeles, then moved back to Los Angeles almost a decade ago now. And I genuinely feel bad for the people because I do think this is a good sports city. I think the people are certainly passionate. It's a passionate sports city. They love the Blues. They love the Cardinals. But they're finally starting to kind of turn on the Cardinals because the Cardinals suck.

And to me, that's the sign of a good sports city. A good sports city is one that when the team starts to suck and it looks like they're doing everything wrong in their attempts to get better when that happens that's when you say sayonara i don't need this bullshit anymore it happened in look the people in houston got sick of bud adams like bud wanted a new stadium and i know in retrospect you can look back and say why didn't you get him a new stadium uh but there was a lot of drama surrounding the oilers the oilers always found creative ways to lose in the playoffs uh so you know that kind of stuff happens. But here in St. Louis, they spent two decades being an excellent baseball organization, really about 15 years being excellent. Well, I guess if you want to start like in the late 90s

with McGuire, that was just, you know, luck of the draw there. They made the trade and they got him. But as a winning baseball franchise, the St. Louis Cardinals from 2000 to 2013 through the 2013 season and even really if you want to go into 2015 when they lost to the Cubs in the first round if you want to give it a 15-year stretch it was pretty fucking excellent but if you want to just put a bow on it in 2013 and say they went to the World Series so they won the pennant in 2013 that's a hell of a 13-year stretch with a lot of playoff appearances with four pennants two world series championships that's pretty fucking sweet for a 13-year stretch right so they've had success the last decade has been kind of uh mostly middling then the last two years have

been plummeting just rock bottom terrible and people have finally started saying i'm not going to waste my time going to downtown st louis to watch a mediocre baseball team. And that's fine. They should do that. That is how you send a message. But St. Louis is a good sports town. And I believe if there were an NFL stadium down on the riverfront, like they had talked about, and they had gotten that done. Although I don't believe any of that would have ever mattered. I think the NFL was going to leave no matter what. I think Kroenke wanted to be in Los Angeles, despite the fact he's a Missouri guy. I'm not trying to dig up an old conversation here, think the NFL was going to leave no matter what. I think Kroenke wanted to be in Los Angeles despite the fact he's a Missouri guy. I'm not trying to dig up an old conversation here, but the NFL was going to leave St. Louis no matter what because there was more money in Los Angeles and Kroenke wanted to be there. The league wanted them there. The people

here got fucked. The people didn't stop going to Cardinals games. I think people in the mindset, when you're not in a city, it's easy to say, well, why don't you just go to the games and support the team? There's a lot more that goes into shit. Let us not forget that 35 years ago, 36 years ago, there was a chance that the Philadelphia Eagles became the Philadelphia or the former Philadelphia Eagles, the Phoenix Eagles. Back in the day, it wasn't unheard of for a lot of teams with their owners to relocate back in the jankier days of unheard of for a lot of teams with their owners to relocate

back in the jankier days of the 70s and the 80s and the 90s of the National Football League, unlike it is now. So like that kind of shit is reality, and especially back in the 80s when there was a lot of movement. But all that said, people shit on St. Louis for the type of sports town it is because they're not here and they don't see it, but it is a good sports town. It is a soft sports media town. It is a boring sports media town. It is a white bread, pleated khakis, boring milquetoast sports town. That's why I guess my personality was just too big for it. I'm afraid you're just too darn loud. So that's why it wasn't a fit, but it is a passionate town. Like the blues people fill up the arena for every game up until a couple of years ago, the Cardinals were still putting in a large number of people

and, uh, and football when they were good, they were doing big things. Attendance wise in a shitty stadium. Like you could argue this stadium here was worse than the black hole in Oakland. Like it had no personality, no charm. It's a goddamn convention center. It is a dump and it is still a dump. Okay. So take that for what it is. But people say, why didn't you go to the games? Well, if you spent 10 years being at best seven and nine at worst, like two and 14, one and 15, you wouldn't be going to those fucking games either. Tailgating downtown here. Wasn't very good at just in a bad spots. There were a lot of factors. Why am I telling you this story? It has everything to do with how people now in St. Louis react to the Chiefs. There are two camps of people in this area. There are the people, three really,

there's people that were just Chiefs fans forever because a lot of people grew up without a football team like in their fan building days and their team rooting days as a kid there was no football here so they became fans of the Kansas City Chiefs some people might have just moved here from Kansas City some people just may have been born Chiefs fans anyway when I was a kid my dad rooted for the Chiefs why because he was a St. Louis football Cardinals fan they left the team that was still in Missouri was Kansas City became a Chiefs fan for the time that's how a lot of people are but then there's also a camp of people that just became Chiefs fans because the Chiefs are really fucking good right now and it's fun to hop on the bandwagon. There's also people who refuse to root

for the Chiefs because they say fuck Kansas City because Kansas City wanted the Rams to move so they'd be the only team in the state and they're not going to root for that scummy organization. And I fall in line with those people. There's no way in hell I'd ever root for Kansas City to win anything because Kansas City was part of the movement to get these fuckers out of here, to get the Rams out of here so they could run the state of Missouri. So F you, Kansas City. And by the way, if you're in Kansas City and you're a Royals fan, nobody in Kansas City is going to root for St. Louis baseball, are they? No. So why should I root for Kansas City football? I don't know you shit and I won't

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offer. See terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. All right, so Kansas City, Midwest, historically a really good fan base, and for the most part, a really likable fan base. Like a lot of these places start this way. They start out kind of being the lovable team that loses the big playoff games, but their fans are loyal. They're known for tailgating really well. They fill up the stadium. Like every poll you're going to see about loudest stadiums, Arrowhead Stadium is going to be one of them. Every poll you read that says the best fans in football, the Chiefs fans are going to be in the top five, even before the team was winning Super Bowls. Back when I was a kid and we watched them all the time,

place was always packed. They'd always go to the playoffs and they'd find a way to lose, but people kind of found them charming because they'd run into John Elway in the playoffs and lose. Or they would run into, I think one year with the Colts, they ran into into John Elway in the playoffs and lose or they would run into I think one year with the Colts they ran into Jim Harbaugh in a home playoff game and lost and they lost to Dan Marino and the Dolphins in the 90s they lost to Peyton Manning in 2004 in a game that neither team punted and the Chiefs were 13 and 3 that year started the year 9 and 0 finished 13 and 3 lost a first round playoff game 38 to 31 and there were no punts so like they were known as the team that would get in and find creative ways to lose that's

who they were then they started winning and here in the last like seven eight years it's a new money type of thing they're not used to it they're not used to being the hunted they're used to being the hunter even up until about 2020 ish when you still had to deal with Tom Brady. That was kind of the dynamic here is we're still the hunter. We're still the hunter. We're not the hunted. And some people are just really, really good at being the hunter. Some people cannot handle being the hunted. And I think that's what you're seeing with Kansas City football fans at this point. New England, who for 15 years, everyone hated Tom Brady gets all the calls, Spygate, Deflategate, Cheaters, Belichick, Aaron Hernandez, every bad thing you can imagine. Gronk's a

douchebag. We hate the Patriots. Do you know what patriots fans did the entire time patriots fans embraced the hate that's what they're good at that's what worked at least for the patriots like when boston started becoming a good sports town in terms of winning people there just started saying fuck everybody and we don't give a fuck oh you hate us we don't give a fuck oh you think we cheated guess what what? We've got six Super Bowls? Screw off, right? That was the vibe that you got from them. What you get from the Chiefs is a group of people who are desperate for you to acknowledge their accomplishments and to not invalidate them in any way. And because of that, they come off as whiny, sad, petty little people.

Like, watch social media during that game when there was the controversial call on the catch or the controversial call on the fourth down play, both of which could have gone either way, right? But you argue those calls. You look at Chiefs fans and Chiefs media people. All they wanted to do was sarcastically say, oh, I guess the refs gave us that one too. The fact that they do that shows that they are thin-skinned. It shows that they're not capable of handling the heat.

Like, can you imagine, like Philadelphia people, right? Now, Philly people are also thin-skinned. I love you guys, but you are. You have a little man complex. You say no one likes us, we don't care, but then you're desperate for the effect. The social a little man complex. You say no one likes us, we don't care, but then you're desperate for the effect. The social media, the national media says we're horrible fans,

yet you clamor for the social and national media people to tell you that you're great friends. So, like, you're a weird bunch in that way. But if the Eagles were in the position of the Chiefs and were on the verge of going for a three-peat, I don't believe the Eagles fans at that point would give any fucks if people thought they were cheaters or not. Maybe I'm wrong.

I could be wrong. I very well could be wrong. But I'm looking for a point of comparison here. But the Chiefs people are desperate for you to validate, somehow validate their accomplishments. Winning the Super Bowls doesn't matter to them as much as you acknowledging that they won the Super Bowls and giving them credit for winning the Super Bowls. That's why they are annoying people. That's why they are obnoxious people.

That's why they are sad people. It really is. One of the narratives I've seen on social media from Chiefs media people and some national people, but Chiefs people is, why can't people just accept the greatness they're watching and enjoy it and enjoy the ride of watching this greatness? We don't see this kind of greatness that often. Well, that's the kind of shit that fans of teams that are about to win three Super Bowls say. Teams that root or guys that root for the Saints or guys that root for the Browns or guys that root for the fucking Bengals or guys who root for the Chargers they don't give a shit that you're winning three Super Bowls in a row they hate you because they want to be you so the idea that you're begging people to just recognize your fucking greatness is really preposterous and stupid and it's like it's just

simpleton Kansas City bullshit that you're getting from these people. Like, in what universe is someone who roots for the Broncos going to be thrilled that you're going for three Super Bowls in a row? In what universe are Raiders fans or Rams fans or Lions fans going to be like, yeah, look, my team. Say you're a Lions fan. Yeah, we just got our asses kicked. We were the number one seed for the first time ever. We had a home playoff game and got blasted by a rookie quarterback, gave up 45 points. But the good news is on Super Bowl Sunday, I can sit around and watch history, man. I love it.

I'm glad I'm witnessing greatness. Fuck off. Nobody wants that. That's the part of being a fan. Like the idea that we're supposed to sit around and suck farts out of your asshole because you're about to win three Super Bowls in a row. Get bent, Kansas City people. Get over it. Play the villain. Enjoy playing the villain. Enjoy that all of us are miserable,

that our team is not as good as you. Don't sit there and beg us and hope for us and plead for us to acknowledge your greatness. And don't look for us to ignore the fact that, yes, your quarterback is the number one asset in the NFLfl right now and he gets the benefit of shitty calls it's not the number of penalties it's how egregious they are and when they come up in games and you can't deny that and if you do you're full of shit so you get all these people and all these people want to like like they're desperate for it and this look and i know you're saying josh that's rich coming from you always looking for validation yes so it takes one to know one embrace the fact

that you're the fucking villain embrace the fact that the world thinks that your your spoils are ill begotten do a dx fucking crotch chop and say fucking deal with it that's what you should be doing instead of begging people to acknowledge you. Guess what? They're not taking the Super Bowl titles away from you. Whether or not it was a shitty call on the fourth down and the third down or not, whether or not that was a catch or wasn't a catch from Xavier Worthy, they're not taking your Super Bowls away. Take it from me, guy who roots for the Saints, I've bitched for six years about the shitty call. All of us in New Orleans had a Super Bowl appearance stolen from us, literally ripped from us. The worst non-call in the history of sports. Do you think the Rams feel bad about it? Do you think the Rams sit around every day and go, man, that's unfortunate for

them. I feel terrible that the Saints didn't get in. Do you think their fans sit around every day and go, man, we got to go to the super bowl and i feel terrible for the saints because we fucked them no they don't they love the fact that they went to the super bowl and won the nfc championship and they couldn't give two fucks that they did it at the expense of the saints and that the saints got screwed so why are you so desperate for people to acknowledge you get the fuck over it like there's a media guy he's a friend of mine uh a guy here in st louis and he tweeted something the other night big chiefs guy big chiefs fan and he tweets out um if there were social media back in the 90s do you think people would have even enjoyed watching jordan like like

like would they've acknowledged jordan's greatness if we were on social media back then like well actually it wasn't even about social media it's's like, how do you think people would have reacted in the 90s to Jordan, blah, blah, blah? Friend, do you believe that just Jordan was universally beloved? Is that because you watch all these documentaries now 30 years in the future? Do you think that Detroit loved Michael Jordan? Do you think the Knicks? do you think when the Knicks were losing playoff series to Jordan you think when the Pacers do you think when Reggie Miller was losing series to Michael Jordan that Reggie Miller after it was all said and done was like hey but we got to watch his greatness though do you think the hillbillies in Indianapolis watching the Pacers lose to the Bulls were like you know what But we got to watch his greatness, man. If we were going to

lose it, my no, they hated him. Like the revisionist history is preposterous. And you know what would have happened if there were social media in 1996, 97, 98, when the Bulls were winning like 90% of their games and winning three titles in a row. You know what people would have said on social media back then the same shit they're saying now you just didn't have social media to fucking see it like this this idea that somehow michael jordan was this universally beloved figure by all the teams he played do you think when he lined up against the fucking uh the jazz and the in the finals twice do you think the jazz fans were like even if we lose. It is important to note that we are witnessing greatness and I am just glad that we get to be part of this.

No! None of them did. Do you think they were happy? Do you think it made it any easier because they lost to the greatest player ever? No. Every time he rolled into the Delta Center, they wanted him to fucking lose.

They weren't rooting for the Bulls. Like if they had a team, they were't rooting for the Bulls. Like if they had a team, they were not rooting for the Bulls because the Bulls were excellent. That is the dumbest, most idiotic statement that a smart person could make. What would things have been like in the nineties? If, uh, the cheat, like how would people have reacted to this level of greatness in the nineties? The exact same fucking way. way if there was social media they'd shit on you you know what happened in 1998 they'd still be talking about the push-off and they'd say jordan got the call the same shit you're seeing now what kind of delusional world do these

rednecky midwest simpletons live I mean, they live in this weird universe of just like, wow, I'm blown away. These are the kind of people that almost don't deserve this level of success because they have no concept of how to handle it. It's like they won $500 million on the lottery and just bought a small town and built a water park in it and like that's where they live like you're like you don't have any concept of what to do with this money that you've just been given and that's how i feel about chiefs fans like they have no clue it's like ricky bobby being interviewed he didn't know what to do with his hands that's the people in kansas city finding successful football they're like i don't know what to do with my hands i don't know what

to do the car ran pretty good like they have no clue how to handle it and they're lost because they're so used to being losers that lose big playoff games and being the team that people feel sorry for and they are used to being the ones that bitch about Brady getting all the benefit of the calls that now that they're in it they have no clue to handle it and they want you to blow them and you're not going to because you're reacting the same way they reacted in the past they are full of shit fuck them thank you