The Josh Innes Show - Chiefs Lose And It's Beautiful

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

The Chiefs lost again. I hate them. I don't really hate a lot of teams. I tend to hate individuals more than teams...but, I hate the Chiefs. The NFL is currently wide open. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And that's great. I'd appreciate it. I had a pretty good Monday night football game last night. Let's get into that after these words. Check out the big stars, big series, and blockbuster movies. Streaming on Paramount Plus. Cue the music. Like NCIS, Tony and Ziva.

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Paramount Wolf. All right. So another Chief's loss that I enjoy thoroughly because I've grown to to really despise the chiefs? There are very few teams I despise. I'm not a team's. I'm not a guy who despises teams, right? There are players I tend to despise.

There are a lot of coaches I despise. Like, I'll watch games, and they'll show a shot of a coach, and I'll just sit there with Jilly and I'll say, I hate this fucking guy. And there's a lot of guys that when I see them, I'm like, I really hate this guy. Like this coach from Jacksonville last night, I really hate that guy.

I think it's just the look of him bothers me. I think his ears bother me. the strange shape of his face bothers me, and then I can't get the Duval thing out of my head where he looks like a South Park character. Like, I just, I can't. So, like, I hate the guy. I'm glad they won. I really hate the guy.

And there's a lot of guys that are like that for me. I don't hate teams. Like, I'll see people celebrating, like, when a rival loses. Like, I don't watch Alabama and hope they lose every game, right? I root for LSU, but if Alabama beats somebody, like, okay, my world goes on. And if they lose, ha, that's funny. But I don't sit there and go, my God, I need Alabama to lose because I hate Alabama so much. Or, oh, I hate this team so much.

There are very few teams that are like that for me, if any, right? Like, I enjoy that the Cubs are down 2-0 to the Brewers. I enjoy that the Phillies are down 2-0 just because I enjoy when teams that fan bases are all hyped up about lose. Now, granted, it's the Dodgers beating them. The Dodgers should beat everybody because the Dodgers spend the most money, so it's not shocking. But I really enjoy when, like, the Cubs who spend all sorts of money in there, you know, the big city, and no, they're getting to play Little Brother in the playoffs, and Little Brother is up to nothing.

I enjoy that because I really just, I don't like the, I guess the Cubs are an organization I hate, but it's not because of the, you know, oh, you root for the Cardinals and that's their rival, like that kind of shit, like whatever. Like, the Cubs have been mostly irrelevant in my lifetime, right? They'll never catch the Cardinals on the number of World Series they have. So, like, I don't look at the Cubs as some sort of rival. Like, I get that they are, but I don't view it as like, oh, I'm, I mean, it's the Cardinals and the Cubs and the Cubs have to lose.

I just like teams like the Cubs staying in their hole and never coming out of it. Like, I rooted against them in the World Series because I enjoyed the fact that they were this team that hadn't won a World Series since whenever it was 1945 or whenever that was. I enjoy those kind of things. I don't like when, you know, poverty organizations in terms of winning emerge from the poverty for the most part. And I really just dislike the Cubs, especially because the Cubs are a team that spins money and loses. Baseball is weird like that for me. Because in football, who knows who spends money? Because there's a salary cap and a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin, a team in Kansas City can compete in win World Series.

Where in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers are not supposed to win the World Series. The pirates are not supposed to win the World Series. So you know who the haves and have-nots are in baseball because there is a distinction of the haves and have-nots. And that's to do with the dollar figure. Whereas in football, there are no halves and have-nots. There are no real poverty organizations. Like, there are bad teams that might be run poorly or draft poorly or they might lose a quarterback or whatever, but for the most part, they're all on equal footing, and that's

not how baseball is. So when I see the Dodgers and I see the Cubs and I see the Yankees and I see teams that spend a shitload of money, I enjoy watching the teams that spend a shitload of money lose to teams like the Brewers, who have no business being as good as they are, I enjoy that. I would enjoy it if the Tigers advance, because while the Tigers, spend some money, the tigers are not, really, you can argue the tigers are or an organization that doesn't spend enough, but, you know, if they were to, you know, advance past teams that do spend more, although Cleveland's, you know, they beat Cleveland, Cleveland doesn't spend anything

either, really, so. But my point being in all of this is that there are very few teams I just watch and I hate the team overall and I want them to lose. But the chiefs are one of those teams. I also hate all the celebrities who are from Kansas City, like how trendy it is. to be from Kansas City now and apparently every celebrity on the planet is now from Kansas City like the chick that was on the Manning cast last night, Heidi Gardner, who I think is adorable by the way, and she's in the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial and it's a funny commercial.

But like, I don't give a shit about all these Kansas City celebrities who out of nowhere are now Kansas City celebrities because it's trendy to be a Kansas City celebrity. I don't care about how Cam from fucking modern families from Kansas City or Paul Rudd is from Kansas City or Jason Sedakis is from Kansas City or fucking like all these people are from Kansas fucking city and I'm tired of seeing your faces. It's like it's trendy to be from Kansas City. So all these people who grew up in Kansas City and none of us knew it, none of us knew that Paul Rudd rooted for the Chiefs. Now all you hear is, hey, did you know that Paul Rudd and fucking Rob Riggle or Chiefs fans? I don't give a shit. Anywho, I hate the Chiefs. I root against

them. I hate the Kelsey's. Look, I don't want to start the day off with such a negative tone. But I do hate all of these things I said. And I just wanted to be honest with you and I wanted to be up front with you as we have this discussion about how much I enjoyed watching the Chiefs lose and lose the way they did. The Chiefs are a boring football team to watch. They are not exciting. They are not interesting. They are not good. It's kind of like watching the Eagles, except the Eagles have a chance to be good because their defense is really good. But watching the Eagles is a painful watch. They're boring. The offense sucks. Saquan Barclay can't get going.

It's just a boring team to watch. I find the Chiefs to be a boring team to watch. But they're a boring team that isn't good, and that's what makes them worse. If you're boring and win, you can at least justify it by saying, yeah, well, they're boring, but hey, they're four and one, they're five and oh. They're two and three, and they're boring to watch, and they're uninteresting, and I enjoy that. And the way the game ended last night, a fascinating end of the game with Trevor Lawrence falling down basically twice. The fact that Trevor Lawrence had enough time to fall down twice that the two-yard line get up and run the ball into the end zone

was fascinating on its own. Just a fascinating game overall. Are the Jaguars actually good? I mean, they've got weapons. They've got players on the offensive side of the ball. Etienne is a player. BTJ is a player. Like, they've got dudes that can ball.

And Trevor Lawrence, maybe he's got a coach that's got him figuring shit out. I don't know, but he can play. And they're a four-in-one team. And you start to look at teams around the. NFL and ask yourself if this team is a player, if this team is a real contender. Like, you look around and, like, do you view the Patriots? Just going down the list of teams in the AFC looking at the standings, right? Like, the bills you're going to say are a player, right?

But the Patriots are three and two. Do you really believe the Patriots can win the Super Bowl? At first thought, no, but who the fuck knows? What if Drake May is the truth? Drake May has played his balls off, and if Drake May can sling it, we forget this, and we talked about it yesterday. If the Patriots don't turn the ball over against Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's 2 and 2 and the Patriots are 4 and 1 right now.

And if they're 4 and 1, how could you not look at the Patriots at 4 and 1 and go, they could probably play with anybody? But that one loss kind of makes the difference there. The turnovers, a couple of turnovers make the difference. You look at the AFC North and you go, Pittsburgh's 3 and 1, Baltimore's 1 and 4. You know who's still favored to win the division? The Ravens who are 1 and 4. That's how terrible that division is, that the team that has surrendered 177 points through 5 games,

a team that's minus 36 in the point differential is favored to win the division. And why are they favored to win the division? Because a team that's minus 71 is above them. That's the Bengals. And then you've got the Steelers who are flirting with even, right? They're minus two. So you're the Steelers at 3 and 1, and Baltimore's 1 and 4, and the Vegas odds still say, take the Ravens.

And the Ravens are terrible. So they're expecting Pittsburgh to maybe fall off a cliff, and maybe they will. But the Ravens are fucking god awful, yet they've lost three in a row. but the talk is still take them to win the division. AFC South. Do we buy that Jacksonville is a legit Super Bowl contender? I do not. I don't buy them.

I think they're fine. I think they can win some games. But if you're asking me, when the playoffs come around, do I think that the Jaguars are beating Buffalo in the playoffs? Here's the thing, man. I say that. Why couldn't they be? I mean, look at the AFC. Tell me the good teams in the AFC.

Is Buffalo a good team? Sure, I guess. I mean, they lost last week. Buffalo's a good team. Is Pittsburgh really a good team? Not really. Do we believe in the Colts yet? I mean, at some point you're going to have to when they're a team that's plus 74 in the point differential. How many teams in the league have a plus 74 differential? You know the answer? One, it's the Colts. They are dominating and they're beating people by a huge margin. The only team that's close is the Detroit Lions. Outside of that, you've got the Colts

who are throttling people right now. At what point do you look at the Colts and say, yeah, they're pretty legit. Like, you don't want to acknowledge it because you're like, that's fucking, we know that guy. We know what he was in New York. We know that. Yet somehow, my man's out there slinging. So are they legit? Are the Jaguar's legit?

The Texans have given up, I believe, the fewest points of any team in the National Football League. There are a two and three team that's plus 47 in the point differential. Now, granted, that's due in large part to the fact that they just beat a team 44. to 10. That helps. It helps that every game they lost was pretty close, like a one-score game, and then they beat a team by 34. So really, that's the difference in everything for them. But do you know how many teams have given up as few as as 64 points or 61 points? None other than the Texans. So if you can stop teams from scoring and you can figure it out on offense,

why can't they go on a run? Like the AFC is open for business. We all thought, hey, the charges are pretty good until they lost two games in a row. Denver just went and won a huge game on the road in Philly. You know, the Chiefs are two and three, and they're not that impressive. So if you asked me, Josh, could the Jaguars win at all? I guess. Why not? The AFC is wide the fuck open.

There is not one dominant team. As likely as it is that the Colts go on to win 12 games. Could you see a scenario where they only win eight and miss the playoffs? Why not? You know, it's just, it's a weird scenario in the AFC. And the NFC, you say, okay, there are a couple of halves. Like you say, the lions are a half. Since they're week one loss to Green Bay, they have just dispatched of people.

They have disposed of people. They have just mauled people. They're really fucking good and they're fun to watch. The Eagles are not fun to watch. Their defense is really good. Their offense is not. But if they ever figure it out at all offensively and they figure out how to make Seqwan, the guy was putting up a buck 30 a game last year,

the Eagles are right there again because their defense is disgusting. But like, does anybody by the commanders know? Does anybody by the Cowboys know? Does anybody by the Vikings know? Does anybody by the Bears know? We're interested in the Packers at this point. Like, who are the Packers? The last two weeks, they've been unimpressive.

Tampa? I don't know how much Tampa can continue to live off of, hey, we're down by, you know, 10 in the fourth quarter and we rally and win in the last possession. That's what they do. And Baker's gutting them out. but what happens if two of those games go the other way? Instead of four and one, you're two and three, and we're like, ah, that buckingere sucks.

So to win games like that, I mean, they're flirting with it. You're talking about a team that's four and one, and you look at point differentials. They are plus three. They are basically dead even, yet they're four and one. Will they regress to the mean at that point and lose a couple of those games here in the future and fall back to Earth? I don't know, but I fucking love watching Baker-Mayfield play.

Do I think they're going to win the Super Bowl? My instinct just says no. But in a couple of weeks, we get to see them take on the Lions on Monday night football in Detroit, and we'll see what kind of moxie they have. We'll see how good they are. Does anybody buy the 4-1-49ers? Not really, but there they are at 4-1-1. So the league is wide open.

There isn't a juggernaut out there right now. And last night you watched the Chiefs again lose, and perhaps this is the end of it all for the Chiefs, you know, might this be the end of their run. So I enjoyed that thoroughly last night. I enjoyed watching them. I liked the way it ended. and ended in shocking fashion. Because when you watch Trevor Lawrence Fall, you had enough time to go.

Yep, that makes sense. One yard line, chance to beat the Chiefs, Jaguar stepped on their own feet. But then Trevor got up, and he ran and escaped a tackle and got in, and you're like, holy shit. How about that? Duval indeed. Duval indeed.