The Josh Innes Show - College Coaches Must Be Full Of Sh*t

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

I keep reading Lane Kiffin stories. I can't get enough. I saw that some of his Ole Miss players said Kiffin lied when he said the players wanted him to stay and coach the CFP. Did he lie? I'd say it's likely. But, who cares? You have to be full of shit to be a successful coach at the college level. Let's discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, everybody, welcome in all up in this. Glad you are listening. Tell all your friends we want to hear from them, and we want to have your listenership and your friendship. That would be super. So I know I keep saying this, and I know I've talked about Lane Kiffin a lot. I'm aware of this, and I get part of it because I'm an LSU fan. Look, I'm well aware of all of this.

That said, I have more things to say because people keep writing stories. and people keep putting stuff out about Lane Kiven. So you know what? I'm going to keep talking about it because there's just little nuggets and little things that keep coming out. So we're going to play a couple commercials, and we will get into this about how Lane Kiffin lied in his introductory press conference with LSU. All right. Let's get into that after these words. When you're flying Emirates business class, sipping your favorite cocktail at our onboard lounge,

You'll see that your vacation isn't really over until your flight is over. Fly Emirates, fly better. Get no frills delivered. Shop the same in-store prices online and enjoy unlimited delivery with PC Express Pass. Get your first year for $250 a month. Learn more at pceexpress.ca. All right, so in his introductory press conference, Lane Kiffin said that Everyone asked him to keep coaching, including the team at Ole Miss.

So, like, his point when he got up to the podium and his official statement, well, here's his official statement for when he left, okay? I was hoping to complete a historic six-season run with this year's team by leading Ole Miss through the playoffs, capitalizing on the team's incredible success and their commitment to finish strong and investing everything into a playoff run with guardrails in place to protect the program in any areas of concern. My request to do so is denied by Keith Cooper, despite the team also asking him to allow me to keep coaching them so they could better maintain their high level of performance. Unfortunately, that means Friday's Egg Bowl was my last game coaching the rebels. Multiple players, including Bryson Sanders, have tweeted and quote tweeted Lane Kiffin's response or his comment or in his statement and said, despite the team asking me to keep coaching, I think everyone that was in the room would disagree. Now, I don't know what the truth is here.

First of all, I thought that Lane wasn't supposed to address the team, so I don't know if that actually happened or not. So I don't know how anyone would know this. I don't know. I thought he didn't speak to the team because he wasn't supposed to speak to the team. Whatever. This is a weird fucked up situation. We know that this is a weird fucked up situation. It's well documented.

We've really never seen anything like this. And I assume we will at some point see something like this again, because everything happens. but I don't know that, well, I know we've never seen it, and who knows if we're ever going to see it again. But let's start here. College coaching is an inherently dishonest profession. Everything about it is being full of shit. Like the only real part about it is the coaching, the game plan, the strategy. After that, everything about coaching college football is dishonest, and that's reality.

It is about being full of shit. It is about having to lie to people. It is about having to be a 50-year-old man telling the 17-year-old dude in high school that he's the shit. And really, it's about being a 50-year-old who has to tell a 13, 14, 15-year-old that they are inevitably going to be the shit and that they need to sign. Think about – and look, you're getting paid $10 million a year, so how bad could it be. But think about how soul-crushing and ridiculous it must feel to have to be a grown man and have to go to a middle school and tell some middle school behemoth, some like giant. kid that's like, you know, too big for how old he is, you know, some 14, 15 year old kid, someone who looks like Andy Reed in that famous punt passing kick picture and video where he's

like 18 feet tall and all the other kids look like dwarves, you know? Like, you have to go into a middle school now, not just high schools, but you have to start talking to these kids in middle school and telling them, like, that they're the greatest thing ever. It's predatory. It is a weird fucked up profession. There is no other way to put that, right? Like, it's not, you know, obviously, there are jobs where you seek people out and seek out candidates and you have to tell them how great they are. That's nothing new. I've been told how great I am by multiple people. The apex of that for me was when I got whacked in Philly and I was open for anything and I was getting multiple calls.

That's the most calls I've ever gotten about jobs and like Portland and Memphis called. And there were other cities, Houston, there were other places that called and we're like, I'm interested. What do we have to do? And, like, they tell you how great you are and they want you. Like, now when I got this job, I had to call them and be like, hey, I'm great. I think you should want me. But, you know, 15 years ago, or however long ago, that was 10 years ago, I guess, like it was like I was getting calls left and right.

I get that other professions, you have to call people and even people that, like, you know, you are far older than, and you have to call them and explain to them how good they are, even though they've never done a fucking thing. And then you have to now pay them big sums of money to get them to come to your school. So as an adult man, you have to call. Call a 16-17-year-old person. You have to tell them how great they are, despite the fact all they've done is played against slap dicks in high school sports. Who knows how good they're going to be at the next level.

You have to tell them how great they are. And then you have to tell them how much you're going to pay them, sight unseen. You've never seen them on a college campus. You have no idea how good they are. But then you have to pay them potentially millions of dollars like Bryce Underwood at Michigan. You have to pay them millions of dollars. I would imagine it is a bit of an emasculating profession. Like it has to be.

There's no way you go into that. Like, I feel like a real man having to go to a college or a high school and tell some kid that he needs to go to college and play with us. And I have to tell him how great he is. Then I have to grease the palms of his mom and dad. Like, I imagine it's a pretty soul-crushing type of endeavor, right? The money's great. The houses are great. The cars are great.

There's so much about it that's great. But having to go and explain to a high school person why they are amazing, then having to pay them has to be a weird phenomenon. Like, I was reading some story about Brian Kelly. And, like, Brian Kelly just, like, kind of gave up recruiting-wise. There were certain dudes that they were trying to recruit and try to land at Notre Dame. And he's like, listen, if the kid wants to come to Notre Dame, he'll come to Notre Dame. I'm not going to get on the phone with this kid and beg him. And to a degree, there's almost an element of respect I have for that.

Like, I would not want to get on the phone and beg a 16, 17-year-old person to come to Notre Dame or LSU. Like, it just feels ridiculous. But I get it. Now, it's an inherently dishonest profession. You have to be full of shit to be successful. Like, selling is 90% of it. Like, if you coach at LSU, you don't have to be a great coach to win football games at LSU. Like, Brian Kelly got run the fuck out of town, but he won nine games the first three full years he was there.

Like, and a couple balls bounce another way. He could be a 10-win coach. My point is, like, look at Ed Ogeron. Ed Ogeron eventually got fired. Ed Ogeron got the right talent in place and won the games. had to win to win a national title. That's Ed Ogeron, a guy that won nothing at Ole Miss, right? Comes to LSU, gets the right talent you win. If you're at the right schools, you get the right talent, you're able to win. So being able to glad hand and kiss ass and be a

salesman, it's like 90% of it. Raising funds, 90% of it. Like, that's almost a bigger part than the actual coaching of the sport, right? It's glad handing, slapping backs, talking to boosters. That's a huge part of the whole thing. You have to be full of shit. You have to be a salesman. That's part of it. Like I'm listening to all. audio today from Pat Fitzgerald. Pat Fitzgerald is the new coach at Michigan State. Dude spent like a decade and a half coaching at Northwestern, got fired because of some hazing shit there, which we can get into. I never read the details on the hazing in that story. Fascinating, but we'll get into it. But anyway, here's audio of Pat Fitzgerald. It is an introductory

press conference. He's never coached at Michigan State. He's never lived at Michigan State. He's not coached down at Michigan State. He spent 15 years or whatever it was. at Northwestern, but listen to him on the day he gets introduced as the head coach of Michigan State. And every game is going to be a focus of victory and winning. But there's one game that just means a little bit more, doesn't it? So, of course, he has to pander and be like, I can't wait to beat Michigan. Dude's been there for five minutes, and he's already having to play the game of the biggest thing in my life is going to be beating Michigan. The guy just signed the contract.

And now beating our rival is the biggest thing. I'll just leave that one alone. So to the Spartan fans, the alumni, your passion is unmatched. I'm excited to earn your trust to energize our program and to build a team that you'll be proud of to support every Saturday. I'm humbled for the opportunity. I'm fired up for the challenge and I'm ready to get to work. It's just a great day to be a Spartan. Go greet.

And what I also enjoy about this is at one point in here, he's like, these are the great, I can't wait to get out in front of the greatest fans ever. Like, this guy's never played a game in front of them as their coach. He has no fucking clue if they're the greatest fans ever. No one does. But my point is, I get it. It's full of shit. You have to say the things you have to say.

Your wife is the most beautiful woman you've ever seen. Like, I get it. You have to be full of shit. But that's my point I keep making. So all these kids are like, well, this guy, he's a liar. Well, and LSU should feel like shit because this guy got up there and lied at the podium. It's a business that's dishonest. And the way the setup was, is you,

had no choice but to be dishonest. Like, you can't go out there if you're the old Miss coach in the middle of the season and say, hey, I want to go coach LSU, but I'm going to ride this thing out. And I told you, I keep going back to my situation with when I left Nashville to go to St. Louis. I couldn't be honest about it. So you have

to be dishonest to a degree. Like, that's just the way these things are. But that is a business where bullshitting is paramount. You have no choice but to be full of shit. And Lane is full of shit. And at some point, like, do I believe anything Lane really said at the podium? No, because he hasn't earned my trust on

anything because I've seen how every situation has gone with him everywhere else. I think the guy is a vagabond. I think he's full of shit. I think he says the things he needs to say. And maybe in the moment he feels those ways. Like, because I've been, I know I keep referring to myself like I'm Lane Kiffin or something and I'm not, but I've lived a life that, again, you talk about a guy who's had six head coaching jobs. He's like, I bet that's never happened before you're 50 years old. Well, how many guys have led like six, seven morning, afternoon drive shows before they're 40? You know, like, I've done these things. I've bounced from place to place.

I know what it's like. And in the moment, you're like, in your mind, you're like, you'll say whatever it takes to get this gig. And like, you believe it. You're not lying because you believe it. And like, I believed I wanted to be in St. Louis. And I believed it would make my dad super proud. And I believe that it was a perfect fit. Then you get there and it's not and things change.

But, like, being full of shit is a key, like a key. part of success in that profession. So, like, those guys in the office and the locker room that had that the meeting with the coach, allegedly, I don't know if it actually happened or not, because I've just seen multiple reports on it. But you have to be full of shit. You have to lie to people. Like, those guys who are probably upset, like, this guy is a liar.

Well, guess what, Bryson Sanders? The guy probably lied to you about being a great player in high school and the greatest player he's ever seen, probably, because that's what they have to tell you. That's what you tell all your girls, isn't it? Well, it is. That's the job. Listen to Pat Fitzgerald. Pat Fitzgerald has never coached a down at Michigan State.

He was a coach at Northwestern for, I guess, a decade and a half or so. And now all of a sudden, the greatest fans in the world reside in Michigan State, and we've got to beat Michigan. So you mean to tell me two weeks ago you didn't have a job? You didn't give a shit about Michigan. Now all of a sudden, Michigan is like, you're arch rival and you must take them down. And every game is going to be a focus of victory and winning. But there's one game that just means a little bit more. Just means more, guys.

I'll just leave that one alone. I'm going to leave that alone, but you know who I mean. Fuck you, Michigan. I hate you. So to the Spartan fans, the alumni, your passion is unmatched. Your passion is unmatched. Just so you know, Michigan State fans, your passion is unmatched. I've never coached for you.

I've never worked for you. But I know for a fact it's unmatched. Like, it's a profession where you have to be full of shit. I'm excited to earn your trust. I want to earn your trust. Honestly, I don't give a shit about earning your trust. These are the things I just have to say while I'm blowing you up on this podium so you'll like me.

To energize our program and to build a team that you'll be proud of to support every Saturday. I'm humbled for the opportunity. He would have been humbled for the opportunity to coach Penn State or anywhere else too. Like, again, I'm not ripping the guy for it. These are the things you have to say. When your wife asks, is she the most beautiful person in the world? You say, yes. She don't say, well, as a matter of fact, if I really had a chance to fuck sending me,

next door. I'd really take a die shot because she's hot. You're not going to say that. So I get it. You have to lie. You have to be full of shit. I get it. But when I see these players like, he's a liar, the world's like he's a liar. Everyone in this profession is either a liar or super full of shit, which is just a really nice way of saying, you're a fucking liar. That's the profession. That's what it calls for. So again, just lose me with all this shit. I'm an LSU fan. Two, three, four years from now, guess what's going to happen? You know what's going to happen? If Lane Kiffin, here's the interesting thing.

Let's say Lane Kiffin regularly starts beating Alabama. Alabama's going to fire their coach. You know where Lane Kiffin's going to go? Fucking Alabama. That's how it's going to go. Like, that's just the way that's go. So you enjoy it while you're in it. You soak it up.

You love it while you're in it. You enjoy the ride. And just know that in two, three, four, five years from now, this guy's going to throw double birds to you and he's going to be leaving in December to go coach Texas or Alabama or somewhere else. This guy admitted in his press conference. He's like, I'm just a vac. bond. I feel like there's a calling for me every X number of years to go elsewhere.

That's what's going to happen. This guy's not going to be there for 15 years. He's not going to be like Nick Sabin and Alabama who stayed at Alabama for 18 or however many years he stayed there, 15 years. That's actually longer than that, about 17 years. He's not going to do that. Like, so just get ready for it because it's a profession full of liars. And Lane Kiffin is probably the most full of shit of all of them. At Fandual Casino, you get even more ways to play. Dive into new and exciting games. And all of your favorite casino classics, like slots, table games, and arcade games. Get more on Fandual Casino. Download the app today. Please play responsibly 19 plus and physically located in Ontario.

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