The Josh Innes Show - Deion Sanders Continues To Be Football Trump

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Deion Sanders has attacked anonymous media members, accusing them of being jealous of his players. Deion, who I do like, continues to show Trump like tendencies as it relates to his handling of media. This leads to the discussion of how college players should be handled by media members. To me, if you're getting paid a lot of money to play football, you're a professional. Professionals can be criticized. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I woke up with my toe hurting, which is an early sign of my gout flaring up. Now, gout, if you don't know, gout is like the ailment of of the kings i think is what they used to call it like the rich and the wealthy and the powerful used to get gout back in like medieval times because that was brought on by eating like fancy foods like steaks and shellfish and drinking alcohol so the poor's never got the gout only the wealthy seem to get the gout so it's the it's like the disease of the kings so i'm trying to head it off at the pass considering that i'm going to baton rouge in new orleans this weekend so i've got an ice pack on my toe i have my foot elevated and i've been chomping on the gout medications that I have, which, full disclosure, will make my bowels run like water. That said, I don't want to be, you know,

with a full-on gout attack in Baton Rouge. I've been on vacation a couple times with a full-on gout attack. It's the worst. Right now, it's just kind of like toe hurts a little bit, little arthritis in it. Let me tell you, when you have a full on attack of this shit, you can't walk. That happened to me really for the first time in Houston. And I remember going to the doctor, not knowing if my foot was broken, it hurts so bad. Like I

could not walk. I'm trying to walk into the doctor's office and it felt like my foot had broken in half. So I'm trying to head this off at the pass. I got ice on it. I'm chomping on indomethacin and colchicine, drinking lots of water, trying to make sure that I'm not screwed out of what should be an epic weekend of LSU, Anseins football, Baton Rouge, New Orleans. Going to get some pluckers this weekend. Going to drink a lot of beer.

Really, the beer is probably the biggest culprit of this. Well, basically my whole diet and the beer is the main culprit of this. But like last night, we went to a ball game here in St. Louis, went to watch the Cardinals. We were one of like 14 people at this game. Nobody gives a shit here anymore. Team's terrible. Been bad for two years. No one's interested, all that. But you know, drink a couple of beers there. Think nothing of it. Wake up this morning like, holy shit, my toe is not feeling well. So here I am laying in bed, doing a pod, foot hurts, but I'm fighting through it because I'm a trooper. Now, I have not done prop to your drop yet because a lot of the games don't have prop bets up right now. So I will do that either tonight, maybe tomorrow to make sure those get up for everybody. If you're tailing any of these, they've done fairly well. They're probably sitting

right at about 50-50 so far. But I'll get you some of those whenever all the games on FanDuel have prop bets. So who knows when that'll be? Maybe tonight I'll try to knock it out for you. Get Jilly involved in that as well because she is the prop bet queen. So we will see where it goes. The story that's annoying me the most today, and there's a couple of them that are really annoying, but one is Deion Sanders going after media people, basically saying that they're critical of college players because college players make more money than them. Therefore, they're jealous of them. First of all, we're all jealous of people that are doing better than us.

Like that's obvious, not just media people, but anybody. If you want to call it envy, you want to call it jealousy, whatever it is you want to call it. We all wish we had more than we do. So the you're jealous argument doesn't really hold much weight. Here's my issue with Dion, right? Dion loves to make up these straw men that are attacking his program or attacking him. Media people are jealous. He's very Trump-like. Dion has taken pages from Trump's book and created enemies that rally his people. And he has got a large group of people who will defend Dion no matter what. Some of it's based on the fact they just think he's badass. Some of it's based on the fact that they just love Colorado. Some of it's based on race. There's a lot of that, right? Like, I actually kind of

like Dion. I like the attitude I like the glasses I think he looks badass beautiful gray beard on black skin the yellow sunglasses the hoodies like Dion says a lot of shit that makes me go fuck I get why guys would be inspired to play for him I think he's cool as shit I'm on his side But he also says a lot of dumb shit that shows that he's full of shit. And at the end of the day, Deion is a lot of flash and very little substance. The team isn't very good. I wouldn't doubt that he rolls the hell out whenever his kid's done playing, goes on to some other school or goes to the pros to do something or just gets out of coaching. I've grown to like him less because of things like this attack on media people. And I don't even like media people. By and large, I hate a lot of them. I think they're

all kind of sycophants. A lot of people are scared shitless of Dion. That's why nobody on Sports Center, nobody on a lot of these networks are even going to challenge him on anything because they're scared shitless of him because he'll call them out. He has got Trump tendencies. He is able to rally his people to attack another group of people. That is Trump-like power, and he has got that kind of power and that kind of sway over his very large group of people. And if you're critical of him at all, they'll come back at you with, you're racist, you're a hater, you're awful, whatever. And none of that is true. Sure, there are people that wanted to see Dion fail because he's an outspoken, loud, black dude. I'm sure there were some, maybe some. It's not nearly as big as the world would lead you to believe. My problem with Deion is Deion has proven to not be very good at what he does.

Sorry, four and eight's not very good at Colorado. Cool, you won three more games than they had won the previous year. You're still four and eight, and you talked a lot of shit after beating TCU last year, and then you fell off a cliff. cliff this year you've beaten South Dakota State or North Dakota State and Colorado State and you got your ass kicked by Nebraska there's nothing special about what Dion is doing Dion essentially took a job so he could highlight his kid his kid's gonna get drafted very high and that's that now do I doubt that that Dion loves a lot of these guys no I think he genuinely does like I think he cares about these guys that play for him I'm not going to dismiss that and say offhand that there's no way Dion actually likes these kids but I also think Dion loves Dion a whole lot more thus Dion coaches in the SWAC and

spends all this time telling you how great the SWAC is and what they're building, gets a chance to jump ship to go to Colorado to feature his kid at a major conference school. Boom, he does it. Now there's rumblings, and who knows how legitimate all this is, but there's rumblings of Deion if they fire the coach at Florida State, if Norvell, who's a guy I really hate, if Norvell gets fired down at Florida State, could Dion go down there? Who the hell knows? But this argument that Dion is making that the media people are jealous of kids making more money than them, I think is bullshit. Because the reality is media people have always covered athletes that have more money than them. Whether they're college athletes, they may not have it out in the open, but college kids at a high profile have always been getting paid. Pro players are always getting

paid. It's a bullshit, lame argument from Dion, but that's what Dion does. Dion is so good at deflecting away from what happens in his own backyard, throws the blame upon someone else, changes the narrative, and his people will follow hook, line, and sinker because they're sycophants because most people out there are sycophants. Whether you're right wing for Trump and you're going to go with anything he says left wing with whatever dipshit candidate they throw out there. Dude, sports fans have become the biggest sycophants on the planet. I'd say a bigger issue than a couple of media people allegedly being jealous of players at Colorado, which is bullshit. The bigger issue is that media people are so afraid of people like Dion and so

afraid, especially in college towns, afraid to ruffle the feathers of the university, the big money programs in small towns. They're afraid to really combat these guys. They're afraid of the blowback they're going to get on social media, that media people don't really do their job in a lot of instances anymore because they're more worried about getting the clout on the internet and being liked by the internet. There's nothing worse than hometown media and a lot of stuff, especially in the era of social media. What we've seen in social media and what social media has brought on is the birth of, really not the birth, but the explosion of new media, blogs, podcasts, YouTube, all that, which I'm all for. I'm doing a podcast right now. There are a ton of people who I admire very much who've built huge podcast followings, like Josh Pate, who does the college football show

on YouTube and podcast. This guy started out as just a local media TV guy, wanted to be his own boss, built this brand. Now he's in bed with CBS and the guy does exactly what he wants to do, makes a shitload of money doing it. I admire that. And on a higher scale, the Pat McAfee's or the Joe Rogan's who are different than a Josh Pate, but like guys like that who create something and build it. I'm all for that. My issue is on a local level, a lot of these people feel like to build their brand, they have to be lunatic homers who are never really objective about the program or the team they cover, or they only fall in line with what the vast majority of the fan base believes. And they never really go against the grain. And for that, they just sound

like sycophants. I see it a lot with Astros, podcasters and bloggers and people on social media, but I see it everywhere, man. Look at guys that cover college sports, like on a, you know, a bar stool, which I don't consider, they're not illegitimate, but they're different to me than other things. Like bar stool kicks ass. I'm not knocking them. I don't go to bar stool for like honest, objective opinions. If I'm going to bar stool, LSU bar stool, South Carolina, I expect them to be the highest level of lunatic there is and not, you know, go against the grain. So that's fine. But I see a lot of these blogs where they're built on just being obnoxious homers and all their content is ha ha ha. The Rangers lost ha ha ha. This team law, like it doesn't do anything for

me, man. Like if you go up Philadelphia, and I'm not knocking this dude. Nick is his name. And he used to write stuff about us for a blog or a website. This was 10 years ago. I don't remember all. Very nice guy. He gets so much traction on social media by just posting highlights of when the Cowboys lose and what the audio of it sounds like. And look, if you find a niche, you find a niche. I'm not ripping you. It's just not what I consider to be the kind of it sounds like. And look, if you find a niche, you find a niche. I'm not ripping you.

It's just not what I consider to be the kind of shit that I want to do. And maybe I'm the wrong one. Maybe I haven't been able to adjust to what the world is. Therefore, I am who I am and I'm not doing what they're doing. Even when I was in Houston, I never got down with the, hey, let's just spend time shitting on Dallas. That doesn't do anything for me. When I was in Philadelphia, it was the same thing.

Shit on Dallas, they would tell me. That's what people love there, shit on Dallas. And I said, if I find something viable to shit on them for, I will. Like when Greg Hardy was throwing women on beds covered in guns and shit, and they still signed the guy, I ripped them for it, and then we raised $35,000 for a women's charity over the weekend.

That I'm for I and by the way this is not just because I'm not originally from Houston originally from Philly I'm a St. Louis Cardinals guy right but the number of people who just take pride in the Cubs fucking losing I'm like dude we're a 500 baseball team who fucking cares what the Cubs are doing we suck like I just I never got into that kind of thing. It never riled me up. It never revved my engine to be someone who just like, let's revel in the misery of the opposition. It's dumb to me. It's lazy, lousy content.

But maybe I'm the wrong guy because those get tons of fucking hits. Like when Clanton used to do the post that he used to make about good morning to everybody except shitheads, Dallas, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm not going to do that because that would be disingenuous. That would not be my brand. That's not who I am. People know that is not who I am. I wish I could be, you know, I wish I could be like that. If I could, I'd probably be more successful. If we're being fair, it's just not in my DNA to do that. Like I look at things and go, okay, that's bullshit. I can't sit there and yell about how the umps are screwing us with the balls and

strikes on Twitter. I can't do that. So what does this mean about media people? The idea that media people are so jealous of Dion's players that they're writing bad stories about these guys is bullshit. But also, and this is a great discussion to get into because I've seen guys like Matt Moscona, who's one of my best friends, say, I'm never going to dump on a college kid for making a mistake or whatever, or something to that extent.

Fine. But once you're getting paid, and in many instances, six figures, and in some instances, seven figures, you lose that, oh, but they're just college kids, man. I don't believe in that. Am I going to set out to dump on an 18-year-old for dropping a pass? No, because at the end of the day, still an 18-year-old. But if that 18-year-old's making $500,000 in NIL money or a million dollars

in NIL money, or is driving a Lambo from NIL money, guess what? You're a pro. You got to learn to deal with it because real talk when Kobe Bryant goes to the league at 17, 18 years of age, he's the same age as those dudes in college. He's getting paid. They're getting paid as well now. So we could dump on Kobe when he's 18, or we can dump on Kevin Garnett if he played poorly as an 18-year-old in the NBA. You had a college kid playing in front of 110,000 people at LSU, drops a big pass. He's about to go and drive his Lambo home, and he's going to be making cash. Why should he not be treated like a pro? What's the difference between being an 18-year-old making a million dollars

and being a 21-year-old making a million dollars? You're still making a million dollars. Now, your argument might be, well, Josh, now you're making Dion's point because you're focusing on the money they're making and you're jealous of that. Not at all. But his argument is, oh, now you're critical of these players and you never used to be critical of these players and you're jealous of these players and they make money now

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you don't point out the difference. And the difference is 15, 20 years ago, five years ago, 30 years ago, these players weren't making a million dollars and they weren't making, they weren't transferring four times. They weren't DJ Uyunglele,

who I'm going to guess has made half a mil in NIL money over the course of his life, maybe more. And he's played at three different schools. Guy bounces to a new school every year. Makes three million or however many hundreds of thousands of dollars he's made. Played at three different schools, high-profile schools. And he's awful. You mean to tell me I can't tell you that dj ueungle is awful oh because he's a college athlete dude's probably in his early he's got to be in his early 20s

he's terrible florida state brought him in because they look to win they're not winning he stinks you don't want me to tell you he fucking stinks like what are the rules like these rules that people make for college athletics if these guys were truly just getting an education, which again, I'm not for that, I'm glad they're getting paid, get yours, I'm about to go see LSU play in front of 100 plus thousand people on Saturday, they're going to sell hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of alcohol in that stadium, I don't know how many dollars they make from alcohol sales, I know the first year they did it, they made about $2.5 million selling booze in Tiger Stadium. I guarantee it might be double that,

but who the fuck knows how much it is now. People are buying a whole hell of a lot of alcohol. So there's alcohol, there's media rights deals, there's jerseys and merch being sold, high profile premium seats, tickets in suites, people are, all this money. You mean to tell me those guys shouldn't benefit from that? Fuck no, they should absolutely but if they are you should be treated like a pro

when like luka donka just playing uh you know a ball over and wherever the fuck he played ball as a young dude are these soccer dudes that join these pro teams when they're 15 people like how old was like i'm sure like messy was probably like 10 when he became a pro teams when they're 15 people like how old was like i'm sure like messy was probably like 10 when he became a pro soccer player they shit on those guys too why because they're getting paid the reality is these are not amateur athletes they are paid professionals so why should we not be able to be critical it's not that hard and i can also look at it based on who these guys are and judge who I think should be more scrutinized based on what you assume they make in NIL and based on the expectation.

If you're DJ Uyunglele and you go to Florida State because you know there's NIL money there and you chose that and that's your third school, I'm going to be more critical of you than I'm going to be of some third string guy that stayed at that school for four years and might make a hundred bucks off an appearance to do something. It is different. But the reality is your quarterbacks, your wide receivers, your running backs, your big time defensive players that are getting big NIL deals. And in many cases, let's be real, they're being paid by these universities out of these collectives where they're really essentially just hiring free agents to come in and play. It's not like the NIL based on what the agents to come in and play. It's not

like the NIL based on what the NIL was supposed to be. It's still just as dirty and dark as it used to be, except now it's out in the open. If those guys are going to go out and make money, if you're a pro, you should be judged. When I was 17 years old, I was doing a radio show. I was being paid to do a radio show. Looking back on it, it probably sucked because I was a high school senior doing a radio show on a real commercial sports radio station. And that show was being listened to by adult men who I guarantee you knew a lot more than me. But the second I got on the radio and I'm taking money to talk, I'm no longer just high

school kid Josh. I am a professional and I am going to be treated differently. I'm not doing college radio. I'm not on a campus radio station where it's two in the morning and we're playing an entire fish album. I'm out there and I'm putting myself out into the commercial radio world. If I am in the commercial radio world, I can be judged. Could people look at it and go, well, I'm going to judge him a little differently because yes, he's getting paid, but he's 18. Sure, some can do that. That is their right to do it. But there's other people who would say, fuck this. I tune in

to hear sports talk. I'd love to be talking sports. I know more than this guy. And he hadn't even graduated high school yet. He's getting paid to something I would kill to do, I'm going to shit on him. And I would get that too. So Dion, your argument is flawed, but Dion's a hypocrite and he's been a hypocrite. Dion just knows how to make the story fit how it needs to fit him. And he knows how to deflect attention away from him. He's brilliant at that. And I like the guy. It's weird to say, but there are times I'm like, fuck, I just love this guy. But there's other times that he's just so full of shit. And in this instance, he's full of shit. He's essentially making up these people who are jealous of his players. No one's going to dismiss it because most people are scared shitless of him.

They don't want to get called out by him, and they don't want to deal with the social media backlash. And that's the reality of it.