The Josh Innes Show - Derek Carr Officially Retired

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Derek Carr is a retired and he said something I find to be funny. Here's the thing about Carr..Saints fans hammer him as if he's some all time bum for the organization. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I don't view his signing as the disaster most do. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Saints saying that he had a labral tear with the Saints saying the quarterback had a labral tear a labral tear labral is how very hillbilly people say liberal a labral tear and quote significant degenerative changes to his rotator cuff. Surgery was considered an option as was trying to play through the energy, the energy, the injury. But Carr told front office sports that he ultimately didn't feel right with either possibility. Quote, that part was tough because I didn't want to have surgery and just sit there and it sounds crazy, but just take the Saints money money car told front office sports in a story

published Wednesday quote. I wouldn't have been able to play if I had the surgery and then if I tried to play with it. I wasn't near 100% and so that doesn't help them either. I just felt like it was the right thing to do for myself and for the team now that does sound noble when you hear a gentleman say hey, I don't want to just take a team's money when I'm injured and no, I can't contribute. So he forfeited his 30 million dollar base salary for the 2025 season. That's very nice. That's very honorable.

That's very noble of you, Derek Carr. Of course, he also gets a 10 million dollar roster bonus that he's keeping for 2025. So it sounds ridiculous when a gentleman says, I felt bad taking their money when I was just going to sit there and try to rehab an injury. So I didn't want to just take the Saints $30 million. But I will take your $10 million roster bonus, which

even sounds more ridiculous because you're getting a bonus for being on the roster for 2025 and you're not even on the roster. You're not even playing. So even though you're getting a bonus for being on the roster for 2025 and you're not even on the roster. You're not even playing. So even though you're not taking the 30 million fine, you're getting 10 million dollars to do dick. So God, the fact that this guy is carrying himself like, man, I just felt bad taking the Saints money. I couldn't just do that to the Saints. How could I take their money? You're still taking $10 million. It's funny to me. I don't know. I just don't like Derek Carr. When you think about your team's worst free agent signing ever, where does like you go down the list of teams on their worst free

agent signing. Obviously Derek Carr will go down as the worst in Saints history and they've had some, well, actually I'm going to take that back. If you look at the money part of it, I guess you'd say that Derek Carr is the worst free agent signing in Saints history. Hold on, let me play a couple commercials and we'll continue. The NBA Finals are finally here and after spending the playoffs all over the Pick Six app from Draft Kings, well, we're ready for the championship round and this is your last shot to win some real cash before the season ends. The simplest way to get in on the action is downloading the

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stayed healthy and more importantly had the Saints offensive line stayed healthy last year, I think the Saints would have been a better team than they ended up being. Like I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Derek Carr is great. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Derek Carr is someone that we should look at and and and give great credit to or that like he's not an all-time great. I remember seeing Sean Salisbury and I didn't listen to the audio. So

maybe this isn't fair, but Salisbury at one point had a headline on a tweet that was like is Derek Carr a Hall of Famer? If Derek Carr is a Hall of Famer than every fucking decent quarterback that's ever existed is a Hall of Famer. That's dumb. But when I look at Derek Carr and you look at what the Saints did through the first two weeks of last season, how they were great. Now granted they played two teams that turned out to be real fucking terrible, but

Derek Carr was really good, spectacular even, grabbing his dick, doing the Michael Jackson dances and he was great. Everything changed when Eric McCoy was injured against the Eagles. The team was never the same. Then you start seeing guys get hurt and then you lose Chris Alave and you lose your receivers like Shahid goes down. Then Carr himself gets hurt and that's when shit starts going to hell, right? If, like, I'm not trying to sit here and say this is some sort of great defense of Derek Carr, but what I will tell you is

that if Derek Carr is healthy and the Saints as a team were healthy last year, and I get that that's a lot of ifs, you don't pay $150 million deal to a guy who needs everything to be perfect for him to be successful. Tom Brady, all-time great, right? Was able to do things when everything wasn't working out. There are guys, look at Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow puts up amazing seasons despite the fact a lot of shit isn't working out. So, Derek Carr is not one of those guys. But operating in the world,

that if Derek Carr were healthy, he didn't get hurt till late last year anyway, in like November of last year, December. But, if offensive line never deals with injuries, if they don't deal with that kind of **** I think that Saints team may have won eight games. Now again, it's the NFL. It's the NFL and you deal with injuries. But a lot of teams don't deal with as many injuries to key players as the Saints did. Key receivers getting hurt, offensive line

getting decimated, all the shit they dealt with. But I say all that to look at Derek Carr and you start thinking about your team's worst free agent signing ever. As you sit there today and you're listening to this and you're thinking about who your team's worst free agent signing was. I still don't think that the Saints worst ever was Derek Carr. Like look at Jarrus Bird. Jarrus Bird didn't play any. Like Derek Carr, while Derek Carr dealt with injuries and Derek Carr was a dud for the Saints because

of the injury. When Derek Carr was healthy, Derek Carr played well. Jarrus Bird, like let's look at Jarris Bird. Remember when Jarris Bird was like the big shit, the huge free agent, the guy that everybody wanted? Let me look at Jarris Bird and what he did for the Saints. Like what was Jarris Bird's contract with the Saints? What did he sign for? I would put Jarris Bird as a worst free agent signing for the Saints than I would put Derek Carr. Let's see. On March 11th, 2014, the Saints signed Bird to a six-year $54 million deal that included $26 million guaranteed. Now, I totally understand

that $50 million over six years is nowhere close to $150 million over three years. I get that. But one of them is a quarterback and he's going to get paid as such, and one of of them is a quarterback and he's going to get paid as such and one of them is a defensive back and he's going to get paid that way. If you look at what I got now I got to see Jairus Bird and how much he actually played. What even made that worse is they let Malcolm Jenkins go. Malcolm Jenkins played his dick off for New Orleans and was freaking great for the Saints. And then

you look at guys like Jairus Bird who you paid all this money to and Jairus Bird was an great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great

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talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great talent. He was a great Derek Carr and Derek Carr at least retired and you're going to recoup some of that cash. Let's see here for the Saints Jaris. Dude, you know what's fucking wild? Jaris Bird was with the Saints for three whole freaking years. Now the first

year he played four games the next two years. He started 12 and 15. He was a total waste and at his time there, would you like to know how many interceptions Jararris Bird had? Three over the course of 33 games for the Saints. He was a loser. He wasn't good. I would have put Jarris Bird or Jason David as worse moves than Derek Carr because at least you tried with a quarterback with Derek Carr. To me, that's far more important than losing with a guy in the secondary. I just struggle to get all worked

up over Derek Carr like some people do because I think it's really easy and it's not like your franchise has been decimated by this. The Saints were really nothing when they signed him and there's still nothing without him, right? They took a shot, it failed, whatever. Like I just don't view it the same way a lot of people do. I just like Derek Carr. I didn't like watching him play football, but as we sit here what two, three years after they signed that deal, like it's like whatever. Would I have preferred they just signed Jameis Winston? Sure, I think they could have gotten the same productivity out of Jameis Winston as they got from Derek Carr for a lot less money. So yeah, but it's not like I look at this and go, holy shit, our franchise died because of this. And the way the

NFL is set up, you're kind of hard pressed to find contracts that are going to do that. Just like when you look at the Steelers, like the Steelers are going to take a chance on Aaron Rodgers. It's not going to kill their franchise. They're going to give it a shot this year, maybe next year, see what happens. And if it fails, it fails. Like you're not killing your franchise with Derek Carr. They took a shot.

Now, if you want to look at a bigger picture and go, all right, they kept kicking the can down the road by bringing in Derek Carr and never really like basically the Saints always viewed themselves as a contender or a competitor, even though they really weren't a contender or competitor. That's fine. And if you want to say they shouldn't assign Derek Carr because they shouldn't have kept trying to

shoot for the moon with this crappy roster they had, they should have just rebuilt. I'd listen to that because you're not wrong. However, all it did was delayed the rebuild. And I believe if he stayed healthy and the team stayed healthy, they would have won some games. That's all. Now, it's not the all time worst signing they've had. I put Jairus Bird up there. There are other examples of guys they've signed that have not been good. But like, it's, I don't know. Like in the NFL, you're not in a position where free agent signings, unless it's a quarterback

that you spend a shitload of money on for a lengthy period of time and ends up a failure, then you're in trouble. Like basketball, you can kill yourself with a bad move. Baseball, you can kill yourself with paying a guy 300 million who ends up being a dud. If Bryce Harper ends up blowing out his knee in year two in Philadelphia, that's a horrible free agent signing. If you sign a basketball player to an eight year contract

and he fails, that can hamper and kill your franchise. You're not really in that position in football because of the way things are structured. You don't kill yourself with deals like that. Just like when people talk about the salary cap in the NFL, they go, oh my God, they're in cap hell. Are they? The salary cap's kind of bullshit because every year these teams are millions, hundreds of millions, 50, 40, $30 million away from being under the cap, yet miraculously they get under

the cap. That's just what these teams do. The salary cap is bullshit. I can't think of too many deals that players signed with teams, free agent deals that just killed organizations. Like you, Amon Green with the Texans, they signed 30-year-old Amon Green. He ends up being a dud. It was like a four-year, $20 million deal. So, we could look at Amon Green and say ends up being a dud. It was like a four year, $20 million deal. So we could look at Amon Green and say that was a terrible deal, but it didn't kill the Texans. He was there for two years. The year after

he leaves, then 2009, they win nine games. The year after that, they have that horrible six and 10 year, then they're in the playoffs back to back years. So like there aren't too many NFL deals that players sign that cripple organizations. What was the deal? Oh, who am I thinking of the defensive lineman that played for the Titans that signed a huge deal somewhere at one point but like, like you can look at free agent contracts and say that was a bad contract. But in the NFL, generally speaking, they don't kill you

like the deal that the Jets signed with Aaron Rodgers suck because Aaron Rodgers sucked. Did it kill the Jets? No. So I don't know man. Like I that's why I don't get all worked up over and I don't like Derek Carr. I hated watching Derek Carr play, but like my buddy Matt's on the radio every day railing on this Derek Carr thing and how terrible Derek Carr was. Maybe

his bigger issue is that the Saints have kicked the can down the road and haven't tried to rebuild. My bigger issue is you still have the same shitty GM and it took you forever to fire the shitty coach. That bothers me more than Derek Carr. Anywho, more to come.