The Josh Innes Show - Divisional Round Recap: Is Sirianni the GOAT?

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

First off, we really don't need a Chiefs/Eagles Super Bowl. Imagine having to spend two weeks hearing discussion about who Jason Kelce will root for. I actually enjoyed the Lions losing. They annoy me. Is it possible that Nick Sirianni is already the greatest coach in Eagles history? I mean, he's going to go to two Super Bowls in 3 seasons. I feel bad for Mark Andrews. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is not a good situation for anyone it's reading a story today about how jason kelsey was all emotional when he had to talk about how he's not playing in this game or these games and how tough it is for him i'm like dude i don't give a shit i'm so tired of seeing you i have nothing against you on a personal level i just find you to be annoying and I'm sick of seeing you, and you're only super popular outside of Philadelphia because your brother's banging Taylor Swift, and I just don't care. I'm sick of seeing your wife. I'm sick of seeing your mom.

I'm actually not sick of your brother. I know I talk about this every time we discuss this. I feel like his brother is a douche, but I think he's at least authentically a douche. I don't believe there's anything authentic about Jason Kelsey I just think Jason Kelsey does what Jason Kelsey needs to do to be popular and whatever that's just what he does I just can't I was talking to a Philly person I know a friend of mine he's like man I really like this Jason Kelsey show it's like super Philly centric. I'm like, why the fuck is Jason Kelsey doing a super Philly centric TV show on ESPN? Like why? Why is that happening? Why is that a thing? Like what in what

world is anybody that's telling Jason Kelsey, hey, here's a good idea. Do why do you hate the Cowboys on an ESPN show? Like why is it happening? But it's easy to say as we sit here today, and I think I speak for many people, maybe not McDougal who doesn't care who they play. He just wants to be in the Super Bowl. And I don't blame you. And certainly not anybody who's a Chiefs fan who I hate anyway. But the idea of seeing Jason Kelsey having to decide who he's rooting for, does he root for his old mates? Is he going to root for his brother? Does he have to wear like a house divided Jersey type of deal? Like what do we get here? What happens? Is he going to root for his brother? Does he have to wear a house-divided jersey type of deal? What do we get here? What happens? Is he going to have to get one of those personalized Mama Kelsey jerseys? Is he just going to wear his mom's old jersey? What happens in that one, right? If you thought the Kelsey overload was insufferable now, just wait.

That's why, and I know that McDougal doesn't want this to happen, and I totally don't blame you, McDougal. Root for your team. You should root for your team. I'm not even rooting against your team because I dislike you or dislike the Eagles. I have nothing against the Eagles or you. I'm on your side.

I like you. So whatever. But I can't handle Jason Kelsey for two weeks being the center of attention in a game that he is not playing in. I don't think I can handle that. My heart cannot handle that. And then like his wife will probably be like on Radio Row doing her shitty podcast. And like his mom's going to be there walking around with chunky soup and like giving people cookies and shit and i just i can't i can't do it and i think i speak for the world we're fucking

sick of jason kelsey not the kelsey's not both of them not you know the combo of the two of them we are sick of jason we are sick of the mom We are sick of the mom. We are sick of the wife. I'm shocked that somehow Jason Kelsey wasn't shirtless in the snow in that game yesterday. Like somehow like runs out on the field and does a snow angel after sake one scores the long run. I'm shocked that he didn't just run on the field,

topless doing a slide into a snow angel. Like I'm truly shocked by this because there's no one who seems to love cameras and attention more than Jason Kelsey. But as we've discussed many times, he's not interesting. He's not particularly funny. He's farting class kid who says, pull my finger.

He has one funny moment. That's basically all he's got is pull my finger shit. That's all he is. And none of my disdain for him has anything to do with the shit that happened when i was in philadelphia because that happened a decade ago and i never really talked shit about jason kelsey until i fucking saw this guy all the fucking time i was listening to a buddy of mine's show and he had another guy on who was kind of like in the way i am he's just

sick of kelsey and he's like why i think it's great and the guy's found a a job after football and he's uh you know he's found a way great. And the guy's found a job after football and he's, you know, he's found a way to make money and we shouldn't fault people for going out and finding ways to make money. I don't, but I also don't have to like it. I can be sick of seeing you. And for two weeks, it's going to be this contrived storyline of who does Jason Kelsey root for? And by the way, you should root for your fucking brother because he's your brother and you're no longer getting paid by the Eagles. So who gives a shit if the Eagles win a Super Bowl? Yet somehow they'll probably give you a ring like a spirit ring for this.

So there's probably something in it for you as well. You'll probably be at the parade like chugging beer shirtless and like motorboat and chicks and wearing the stupid mummer's costume and riding around in the Eagles mobile, the helmet car and all that shit. So it's pretty obvious that's what's going to happen anyway. All right. That said, let's take a look at these games that happened this weekend. Let's do that after these words. All right. If you're ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs, you got to check out pick six from DraftKings. When it comes to basketball payouts, DraftKings pick six posterizes the competition, including prize picks. It's a very simple concept. Hit all your picks and score higher minimum payouts on pick six, plus even more cash if you outscore the competition. Pick

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The Texans' offensive line is garbage. The Texans' special team was dog shit. That enough. The Texans didn't finish drives. The Texans offensive line is garbage. The Texans special team was dog shit. That's easy, right? So give the credit there, all the credit, you know, you give the Chiefs credit as much as you want to fuck them. I hate them, but they won Chiefs law or Chiefs won because the Chiefs were better and made bigger plays. Texans didn't get it done.

And they got some major holes to fill here coming up in the off season. The Texans were never that good of a team during this season they had a lot of just crap essentially happen and they didn't beat a lot of good teams they won a crappy division they were the poster boys for winning a crappy division congrats to them more power to you now other games Lions found a way to give up 45 points to Washington that game was fun I took That game was fun. I took the over in that game. I took passing yards in that game. I took a bunch. That was a very good game for your boy, by the way. Speaking of bets that I made, I will get into some betting stuff in another one, but I will say that I enjoyed watching the Lions lose. And maybe I'm just a miserable human,

but I heard somebody on some show saying, well, the whole world was rooting for the Lions and there's such a great story and you root for Detroit. Hey, I like Detroit. I was on the radio in Detroit. I visited Detroit when I was on the radio there. I liked the fact that they were like this city that was left for dead and they were bankrupt and they have somehow found a way

to kind of improve their whole situation and to become a model of how cities can bounce back from that kind of stuff. So I dig it. I like Detroit. I like the vibe of Detroit. I think it's a cool city. I'd live in Detroit other than the fact that it's cold as shit, but I like Detroit. The Lions started to annoy me because the Lions had gone from being the kind of fun. No, they haven't done blank and blank and blank in a hundred years to be in a team that was perceived to be good. And they got very cocky with that, which, hey, good for you. Get cocky about how good of a football team you are, right? But I'm watching them in that game early on. And when they're scoring, they're doing like mock celebrations of the Viking celebrations. I'm like, Vikings

aren't there anymore. You're not playing the Vikings. You're playing the commanders. Come up with something different. You're annoying me. I don't like you, right? And that was kind of the vibe I got watching them, right? And I really, really dislike Amon Ross St. Brown.

Maybe it's because I'm a Saints fan, and he trolls Saints fans when he was doing the podcast with his brother, and his brother played for the Saints. And if didn't know that it's I don't know I barely knew the guy played there either but they did a podcast together and St. Brown would always shit on the Saints and shit on New Orleans and all this shit and I'm like you arrogant fuck go fuck yourself so I was never into this guy at all good player gets me some yards when I bet on him so I like him but I never viewed the Lions as the boy you gotta you got to root for them. They're the real underdog.

No, you were the home field advantage team. You had a week off. You had a shitload of injuries. But you still let a rookie quarterback come into your building and put 45 points on the board when you had a chance to go to your first NFC Championship game. So I was kind of rooting against you. And I'm a Jaden Daniels guy. Love him.

He's huge. Now, do I think that Washington's going to go on the road and beat Philadelphia? Probably not, because with the running game and the offensive line Philly's got right now, it doesn't matter that the Eagles offense or their quarterback is mediocre. And it doesn't matter that their passing game is pretty much impotent. It doesn't matter because they're able to run the ball like mad men and it works out for them. But I enjoyed what the Redskins or the commanders were doing and I'm glad they won that game and I like that Jaden Daniels is coming and resurrected the franchise. Good for him. I love you, big dog. All right, so there's the first two games of the weekend. Now, we look at the Eagles who played the first game on Sunday.

The Eagles are a better football team, I believe, than the Rams. However, as far as the Rams playmakers go, as far as the quarterback goes, I think the quarterback playing for the Rams is a better player than Jalen Hurts. As a quarterback. Not as mobile, doesn't get out of the pocket, isn't going to make a 90-yard run or anything like that. But Matt Stafford is a better quarterback than Jalen Hurts as a quarterback, not as mobile, doesn't get out of the pocket, isn't going to make a 90 yard run or anything like that. But Matt Stafford is a better quarterback than Jalen Hurts. I believe that I will continue to believe that. I know you can't take weather out of the equation, but if you took weather out of the equation and all things were equal and it was just 70 degrees and a nice day, I think the Rams are a better team. And I think the Rams more than likely could have, should have, would have won that.

Even in the snow, even in a shitty atmosphere like that, still, even with all that, they damn near won the game. I think they bungled that last minute and a half of the game. I think they had every opportunity down the stretch with about a minute 25 to go. They had every opportunity to use whatever plays they had in the playbook. They had the third and two. The run was still very much in play, right? Like you sit back and look at that and you go, all right, you have a minute 25. You don't have the timeouts, but you got 20 yards to go. Virtually anything you want to do is at your disposal right that's all you got to do but instead I still feel like they were too rushed you had a minute 25 to go you score a

touchdown you take the lead Kyron Williams despite the fact he had turned the ball over for you was a hundred yard rusher in the snow like why was he not a part of what you were trying to do in the final seconds there you had time 20 yards in a minute 25. It's not like you had 20 seconds to go and one sack would cost you the game. You were in fine shape. And then you had the third and two. And you blew it on the third and two. And ultimately that's what cost you the game.

That was the killer for you. So I think they bungled that down the stretch. I think that they waited way too long to get more, um, to get more, uh, uh, tempo, if you will, towards the end of the game, when they just started slinging it, when they were down 12, they're like, bang, bang, bang. You're like, okay. Yeah. Like they look good. And they went back to that again when they got the ball back and we're still driving down the field. But when they had the chance to control it, and they had everything at their disposal, I think they bungled that in the last few minutes.

And of course, the third and two. Give credit to the Eagles defensive front. They're nasty. The Eagles are a very good football team outside of the quarterback, who is very mid. Just a mid-level, just kind of like ho-hum type of guy. You guys know this. I'm not telling you anything you don't know.

That's why, when you look at the Eagles, right, you could say that it's a miracle that they are where they are because the quarterback play, like the passing game, is for the most part impotent for them. They'll have big moments and there might be something explosive that happens. But for the most part, the Eagles are an impotent team offensively in terms of throwing. Now, running the ball, they're fantastic. Saquon Barkley is a magician. The guy's fantastic, so he gets a lot of credit. But if you're Philadelphia, you spend a lot of time shitting on Nick Sirianni because that's what you do in Philly. You shit on the coach, you shit on the quarterback. That's what

Philadelphia does. That's your MO. But all Nick Sirianni has done since it looked like the wheels were falling off is win virtually every game he's coached, and now he has them back in the NFC Championship game, and he is one victory away, a win at home over a rookie quarterback, by the way. So it's not like the odds are greatly against you here. You're favored to do it. You have a home playoff game to go to the Super Bowl. Nick Sirianni is about to go to his second Super Bowl as the coach of the Eagles.

How many coaches of the Philadelphia Eagles have gone to multiple Super Bowls? If I'm not mistaken, zero is the correct answer. So you got a dude that's about to go to his second in three seasons with a mid-level quarterback in an impotent passing game. Do I think that he's a brilliant coach? No. I don't know what makes a brilliant coach, but just the look of him tells me he's not. That's unfair. You have a look of douche. When you look like a douche, I have a hard time believing that the team is winning because of you. But all this dude does is win, wins a shit ton of games, and is about to go to a second Super Bowl in three seasons with a mid-level quarterback. I was talking to a buddy of mine, a big football fan dude, and I'm like, big gambler. I'm like, do you believe that if you put Jalen Hurts

on any other football team, does that make that football team that much better? If you throw Jalen Hurts on the Raiders, how much better are the Raiders? He ain't changing the franchise. Put Jalen Hurts on the Saints, is he changing that franchise? No. The Titans, no.

Jalen Hurts is fine, but for the most part, Jalen Hurts is the Saints. Is he changing that franchise? No. The Titans, no. Jalen Hurts is fine, but for the most part, Jalen Hurts is just mid. He's just a mid dude. That's why what we're seeing right now from the Eagles and the way they're able to keep winning, and part of it's because they've played in a shitty division for a while, but you still win the games. The wheels were falling off three months ago, and now all they do is win, and they are favored to and should beat Washington at home to go to another Super Bowl. It is becoming quite possible that the greatest coach in the history of the Eagles is Nick Sirianni. Look at his record. Look at his winning percentage. He's just got to win a Super Bowl.

If he wins the Super Bowl, which if they get in, they're probably going to play the Chiefs at this point. I hope they don't. I'd like to see something different, but they play the Chiefs. Chiefs will be favored. You beat Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. And by the way, Patrick Mahomes only beat you. You want to talk about questionable calls? You got fucked on a questionable call in the Super Bowl. Philly people know that. So Nick Sirianni to go to a second Super Bowl in three years is bordering on greatest coach in the history of the franchise I would imagine his winning percentage has to be the best now granted he hasn't coached as many years as Andy Reid Andy Reid would be the the longest tenured

coach there but let's take a look here Eagles head coaches Eagles head coach history all right let's go to Wikipedia here let's look at the winning percentage for coaches i'm talking about like in the modern era not you know jim trimble uh let's see so dick vermeil co let's see dick vermeil's winning percentage was 535 buddy ryan's winning percentage was 551 rich coat damn rich coat tights uh winning percentage was 551 rich coat damn rich coat heights uh winning percentage was 563 ray rhodes was under 500 andy reed 583 oh by the way nick sirianni wins two-thirds of his games 66 uh 0.667 two-thirds of his games again shorter sample size has only been the coach since 2001 at some point that will level out but he's coached in five playoff games he's won two of them if you look at

coaches that have coached the eagles who have more playoff wins doug peterson has four playoff wins andy reed won 10 playoff games and dick vermeil had, I mean, look at what you're getting. Actually, I think he's got more wins than that. This hasn't updated, I don't think, because that doesn't count the playoff wins in this playoff because he's obviously won more because he went to the Super Bowl. So I believe that Nick Sirianni at this point has the second most playoff victories in the history of the franchise.

He's got four. I didn't count the ones from this year. My bad. He's won four playoff victories in the history of the franchise. He's got four. I didn't count the ones from this year. My bad. He's won four playoff games. That puts him ahead of Dick Vermeule. That puts him ahead, I believe, where he's really close to Doug Peterson.

Let me make sure on Doug Peterson. Peterson had four, so he's tied with Doug Peterson. Think about that. And all this dude does is wins. Again, this is now what season number four, nine and eight, 14 and three, 11 and six, 14 and three. Actually, I take it back. The dude's regular season winning percentage is actually 0.706.

So what I was looking at was a dated list. This dude wins 70% of the games he coaches. 70! That's bonkers. And he's been to a Super Bowl, and he's probably going to go to another one. You could be talking about the greatest coach in the history of the franchise. Greater than Vermeule. Greater than Doug, who does have the Super Bowl. You're talking statue territory for this guy. It's bonkers what this dude's doing. Yet, three months ago, we're ready to kick him out of town.

And if you ask a lot of people in Philly, they'll probably still tell you, oh, they're winning despite him. Maybe so. But a lot of coaches win despite themselves. How good of a coach do you think Bill Belichick is without Tom Brady? Anyone? Bueller?

How good is he? How good? You know, Marv Levy didn't start winning football games until he went to Buffalo and had a gentleman by the name of Jim Kelly and Andre Reid and Thurman Thomas. Here's a fun fact about coaches. They're really good when they have really good players. Phil Jackson, if Phil Jackson coached the Hornets instead of the Bulls in the 90s or the Bullets instead of the Bulls in the 90s how

good of a coach you ever notice that Phil Jackson never had to coach shitty teams for the most part other than he coached the Knicks for a little bit maybe but other than that boy Phil Jackson sure does look like a brilliant coach coaching Michael Jordan and Kobe and Shaq. Good players make coaches look brilliant. That's not to say that there aren't coaches who are better than others, but if Steve Kerr didn't coach Steph Curry and Steve Kerr were coaching, I don't know, the Bulls of the last 10, 12 years, do you think the Bulls are the warriors? No, of course they're not. So at some point, you just got to start giving Sirianni his flowers and acknowledging that Sirianni, look, what it comes down to is do you

win fucking football games? You sit there and blow, Philly, you love to blow Buddy Ryan. Buddy Ryan didn't do this. Buddy Ryan didn't win a single playoff game. Buddy Ryan just wanted to fight Jimmy Johnson, so you blew him. Nick Sirianni looks like a douche. He acts like a douche. He's got his big, beefy dom with him. Everything about him screams hard on. Arguably the greatest coach in the franchise's history. Now, again, he could fall off a cliff, but two Super Bowl appearances in the last three years

and a 70 winning percentage, a 700-plus winning percentage? Are you fucking crazy? This is absurd. And not like you're some all-time great franchise that's used to going to super bowls you've been to three of them that's it and one one dude it's fucking wild i mean so credit to him obviously saquon helps saquon you could argue should if the if you counted the playoffs in the quest for winning the mvp then saquon's the m of the fucking league. Dude's a

beast. So, all right, then finally last night's game, that's going to be remembered for the Mark Andrews drop on the two point conversion. But the reality is you lost the game way before then you didn't make enough plays. You turn the ball over too much. Uh, if you're a Lamar, you turn the ball over too much. That fumble was terrible. Interceptions bad. It was just good. Look, it was a back and forth type of football game. And you know, you lost. Like, I don't really have a ton to say about that game because I'm not going to sit here and live in this world where like, this guy sucks because he lost this game and this guy's great because he won it. Josh Allen may win the MVP. He was a better player in that game, but he also had to do less in that game than Lamar did. And Lamar made a decent throw. Ball should have been caught. If the ball

is caught, maybe it's a different story. Maybe they come back and win. People talk about that, like if he catches that, they win the game. No, that ties the game and there's still a minute plus to go and maybe you lose it so people get really caught up on that one play it's a shitty play and Mark Andrews has to live with it and he should have caught it he had a couple of bad drops in the game did Mark Andrews a guy who's sure-handed reliable uh you know who's been huge for them didn't come through shit happens so but um either way game was fine by that time of the night I was pretty bombed anyway and I'd already hit my big parlay for the day so like I don't care about the Bills I don't care about the Ravens if you

want to talk about somebody though people always talk about Sean McDermott being on the hot seat and everybody loves to talk about how Josh Allen can't beat the Chiefs and all that. You know how long it's been since John Harbaugh's won a playoff game? Since like 2015, something like 15 or 16. It's been a decade since the dude's won a playoff game. People love to talk about how Tomlin doesn't win playoff games. Dude, what are the Ravens doing? Actually, let me go back and make sure I'm right on the exact one. I remember looking this up last night, but I also remember being intoxicated.

So actually, I don't remember being intoxicated. Although we did watch a show about a girl with Tourette's. A, she was kind of hot. B, Tourette's, wild. Let me see when the last time the Ravens have won a playoff game. I take that back. The last Ravens playoff win. Well, they've won playoff.

Okay, I'm stupid. The Ravens won one last week. What was I thinking about? What was I looking up last night? Like I was looking up something about John Harbaugh and his ineptitude in the postseason. You know what it is? Harbaugh has won three playoff games in the last decade. Boy, I was really hammered last night because I remember going like in depth on Wikipedia, looking at John Harbaugh to try to tweet something profound about it. So, I mean, obviously that God, what a dipshit. They want to play off game last week.

God, Josh, what the fuck, bro? And they won one last year too. Cause I had to face, uh, uh, the Texans, but, um, they've won three playoff games. Harbaugh has three and like six since 2015. And I understand that Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in a decade, but Tomlin gets a lot of shit and Harbaugh gets a lot of passes. And by the way, Harbaugh has the multiple-time MVP of the league and they're not winning these games. So maybe you should start looking at him. Now, you're not going to fire a guy that just every year wins 10 games, probably,

but he does a lot of losing in the postseason. Again, I understand that only one team doesn't lose in the playoffs every year. But three playoff wins in the last decade ain't much to write home about. So, I mean, think about this. He's won three playoff games in the last decade. Nick Sirianni's won four playoff games in the last four years. So, just, you know, gnaw on that a little bit. All right, more to come.