The Josh Innes Show - Don't Let Them Divide Us
Episode Date: June 6, 2025I took Ross for a walk at Forrest Park in St. Louis today. It's a gorgeous, sprawling park. It's one of the largest inner city parks in America. Plus, it's loaded with history as it was the site of th...e 1904 World's Fair. Anywho, a tornado blew threw the park a few weeks ago and wiped out tons of the trees and it's still a mess. St. Louis is still recovering from this storm and it's somehow become a black/white political issue. That's right, the tornado see's color. But, something happened in the park today that has sort of restored my faith in my own belief that we are all just pawns and we don't hate each other nearly as much as they want us to believe.... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, I hope your day is just splendid.
Welcome in.
I just got done taking Ross for a walk at Forest Park here in St.
Louis, which is a beautiful, gorgeous,
sprawling, amazing city park. It's one of the most beautiful city parks in the country
and I guess it was two weeks ago now, two to three weeks ago on a Friday, it was just
ravaged by this tornado that blew through the city of St. Louis and it's wild when you
walk through there now. Like this is usually a beautiful park full of big lush trees that have been
there for hundreds of years. Seemingly this is where the
World's Fair of 1904 took place and you know that I like
history stuff like that. For whatever reason, I'm someone
that's really into dopey things like the World's Fair and
everything. But a tornado blew through there like a legit F3
tornado blew through Saint Louis a couple of weeks ago.
And when I tell you that Forest Park is nothing but debris,
downed trees, limbs everywhere,
it doesn't even look like the same park,
but it's just wild how a massive tornado like that
can just blow through a city.
Like it happened in Atlanta back in like, eight or oh nine. There was a huge
tornado that blew through downtown Atlanta and there's a
documentary about that. One of the thirty four thirties or one
of those type of deals on ESPN about how that happened during
the SEC basketball tournament in Atlanta and that was crazy. I
gotta get the hell out of St. Louis because there's just too
many damn tornadoes.
Seems like every week there's an alarm. And here's okay so this is interesting. So the tornado sirens
we hear them pretty frequently. Like since we've moved here we've lived here for a little over two
years actually I guess two years and maybe a couple months and we've heard the tornado sirens a ton and you would think when you hear
a tornado siren that that would mean there's a really close
tornado and you better get your ass like inside now. So like
the first time we ever heard one here was a couple months
into moving here. We had come back from a Cardinals game.
We were going to pick up Luther at the daycare
and the weather turns real bad. Like it gets pitch black, it's like five in the afternoon,
it's pitch black, hail starts coming down and we're driving scared shitless during this
and then the tornado siren goes off and we're thinking, holy shit tornadoes coming through,
we're gonna die, what do you do do so we hurry up and get home as fast
as we can we like get into like the bathroom because that's the most inner most part of the
house with no wall no windows all that shit sirens over whatever we start looking more into this
because that tornado we found out wasn't even close to our house but we're in this big sprawling
county this st louis county which has i mean it's a huge county. There's St.
Louis City, which is its own entity, and then there's St.
Louis County. I know you would think that St. Louis City is
inside of St. Louis County. It is not. It is a weird political
type of thing that happens here in St. Louis where there's a
separation between the county and the city. So like, and this
is reality, and this is something people bitch about, but like if you're in
St. Louis and people talk about how dangerous St. Louis is
crime-wise and you look at the crime statistics for St. Louis,
it's always really high. But that's mostly because when they
include the crime statistics, they only mention St. Louis
City and not the entire metro area. If you get outside of St.
Louis City and get into the county where there's a bunch of really nice
suburbs that are not littered with tons of violent crime, the
number is actually far less frightening for Saint Louis
when you look at the data, but because that number only
includes Saint Louis City, not Saint Louis County, and there's
like a couple hundred thousand residents of Saint Louis City
and downtown Saint Louis is like a nightmarish Mad Max hellscape.
It looks like the statistics are a lot worse than they really
are. Still, I wouldn't say move to St. Louis. I was a dipshit,
but you get my point, but because it's such a large
county, they have to fire off the siren if there is a tornado
warning anywhere in the county.
So most of the times that we have gotten a tornado warning
mixed with a siren, that's been for a tornado that's 20 miles
away and it seems kind of dangerous and stupid. Like one
time I was over in the Walmart over by our house and a siren
went off and they had to stop selling shit in the Walmart. They
had to shut down the registers and everything and have the employees go to the back room
because of this tornado warning and this tornado warning slash siren was for a tornado that
was 15 miles away and wasn't coming in this direction. It is stupid. It makes no sense,
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Neutral. Refreshingly simple. Now there's a big controversy in St. Louis because they didn't
give ample warning to the people of St. Louis City that a tornado
was coming. Like, for whatever reason, someone didn't fire off
the alarm because they are inept, our city officials are
inept. So people had like seconds warning that there was a
tornado coming through. And if you've seen some of the videos,
it's wild, this tornado that just blew through a major American city,
not a rural area, not middle of nowhere.
It's like if you're in Houston, it's not like this bad boy blew
through Conroe or something like that.
Or what's that?
The El Campo or something like that.
Like it blew through the heart of this bad boy like right through the heart of the city and it's
pretty fucking crazy here and people are still pissed off
because they didn't get they didn't get adequate warning for
this tornado. So they're still recovering and still repairing
from that and this seems like something that's going to be a
pain in the ass. It's already become a racial thing if you
can believe that like somehow the tornado is racist because it blew through a lot of inner city neighborhoods.
Like there's just a bunch of dumb shit that goes along with this stuff.
And then recovery efforts, people view that and say, why aren't you trying hard enough?
Well, one of the big things that is a complaint is that, you know, you don't get that, you know,
they ripped the previous mayor who was a black woman.
Everybody ripped her because during a massive snowstorm, it took them weeks to get snow
plows into some of these really narrow streets to clear the
streets, which is a fair complaint. But now the argument
is with this new mayor who is this white woman, and I think
she's a liberal. I'm not sure. I mean, I find it hard to
believe that someone who's not a liberal woman in some way is
going to win the mayoral race in Saint Louis City, but they're bitching at her and they're
complaining saying, oh, you don't want to rip this woman
when they they fucked up a tornado warning, but all you
wanted to rip the other mayor whenever they you had to wait
a couple of weeks to get your roads plowed and it's like I
hate when people do that because it is possible that both
of those things suck right like it's like it's like, I hate when people do that because it is possible that both of those things suck,
right? Like it's like is one greater than the other? Maybe, but like nobody wanted to sit there
for, I'm talking seemingly months, because there was a long stretch this winter where it snowed and
the roads were shit, particularly in the city of St. Louis. And this is kind of an old city where
there's a lot of kind of narrow streets and there's some like brick streets and some real tight streets where people in their houses
have no parking or driveway so they park on the street and like they could not get and
would not get snow plows in there to clear the fucking roads so I can see where people
would bitch where hey I'm trying to live my life just because it's snow doesn't mean I
can shut down my life for three weeks and not get my car out.
I'll tell you that and look, we've talked about this before. You've heard me bitch about the snow. If you're in Houston, this is something you don't experience very often.
If it's in Philly, if you're someone up in Philly, you do experience snow. And when I was there, we experienced that massive snow storm that was like two feet of freaking snow and it was a nightmare.
that massive snowstorm that was like two feet of freaking snow and it was a nightmare. But some cities are equipped for certain disasters and certain issues and some aren't.
Like southern cities tend to not be ready for snow and that makes sense.
Like I lived that in Dallas during the Super Bowl week in 2010.
I guess technically it was 2011.
But in 2011 when it snowed during Super Bowl week, the city wasn't prepared for it.
And I've never experienced something like that where
the night before we had all rented a house because that's what we would do the station would rent us a house for Super Bowl week
and we'd all go and
Sunday night it was real nice. They had a pool. They had a hot tub, right? So we were in a hot tub drinking beers
I think the trip was sponsored by Coors Light
So we had a fuck ton of Coors Light.
We bootlegged that shit like we're the bandit from Houston
over to Dallas.
And I'm in a hot tub, and we're having a good time.
And it's me and Rich and Mark and John.
And I think that would have been a year that Meltzer was there
and Brad Davies.
And it was fucking awesome.
And we're out there having a good time Sunday.
Monday morning, we wake up up and now this is somewhere
not in the burbs of Dallas, but like you it was a little bit
of a hike because Arlington is a hike from Dallas City as
people know to get to the stadium. Although this was
although we weren't going to the stadium. We were going to
the convention center, so that was downtown, but either way
we wake up and there's like feet of snow and I'm watching
like Chris Jones Jones the morning producer
trying to get the station van out of the snow and get it to
downtown and the city's gone to hell and they don't have enough
salt for the fucking roads and it's wild man. Some places are
just not equipped for this type of shit and St. Louis you
would think would be equipped for this kind, but it's really
a terrible town as it relates to handling bad weather on the highways and particularly
on the side streets. So what happened is everything has to become a war, whether
it's a class war, whether it's a political war, whether it's a race war,
everything has to be a, well you did that for blank, but now you're not going to do
this for blank. So when you deal with tornadoes blowing through and hitting lesser privileged
parts of town, blacker parts of town, urban parts of town, compared to some of the shit
that happens to more upscale parts of town or the white affluent parts of town, there
becomes a race war over it and people talk shit because everybody was shitting on the
lady mayor, the black lady mayor
whenever they couldn't get their roads plowed, but then
people aren't shitting on the white lady mayor and it's just
fucking stupid and everything's a race war. Everything's a
fight. Everything is an issue. Let me tell you something. I'm
gonna tell you something that happened to me today at the
park actually and it kind of restored my faith in things. Now that'll
go away and that'll subside and that lasted for about five minutes but there was a brief moment
that I was at the park, Forest Park, and if you ever do get to come to St. Louis like let's say
you come for a ball game and it's fine like the crowds aren't as big as they used to be. I think
it's a fine stadium, ballpark, village is, but so many places are closing in downtown St. Louis that there's
just nothing to do. The Hooters announced it closed two days
ago. That Hooters has been in downtown St. Louis forever.
Shut the fuck down. The Memphis downtown Hooters that I've been
to 100 times in downtown Memphis also closed on the same day.
Two of my most frequented Hooters have closed down. There is nothing to do in downtown
St. Louis, but let's say you want to go to a ball game or
you're in town for a hockey game or whatever it is and you're
in St. Louis and you're looking for something to do during the
day. Say there's a Cardinal game at night, your favorite
team, the Astros, the Phillies, whoever is in town and you're
looking for something to do. You could always go out to Eureka and go to Six Flags, which I've seen videos of what's going on at Six Flags
lately and it seems like a hellhole because everywhere is a hellhole because basically
people are allowed to act like assholes in public now and nobody stops them. Like I just watched a
video of a bunch of people just stealing turkey legs at the fucking Six Flags and like no one's
stopping them because
people are gonna be like I'm not gonna risk getting my ass kicked or being
considered some sort of Karen for stopping people from stealing turkey
legs so there's a video of people stealing turkey legs and you read the
comments and people are like man just let them go it's just turkey legs
everybody says that when it's not your shit but I guarantee you if somebody
like walked up to you like you're eating lunch and someone walked up to you
like it, you know, a restaurant stole your steak or your burger,
you wouldn't go well shit, it's just a burger. But anyway, I
digress. If you're looking for something to do in St. Louis,
go to City Park. It is truly a remarkably beautiful place. It's
huge for exercise and running and walking
and there's great water features and there is the site of the
1904 World's Fair so there's tons of history there. There isn't a ton
about St. Louis that's amazing. There's lots of history, lots of old
buildings that people haven't restored, a lot of blight. There is some
beautiful French type architecture here. I'm not saying there's not.
There are parts of town that are just magnificent, but for the most part it's not an
amazing place. But if you're looking for something to do that isn't the Cardinals
are going to the Anheuser-Busch Brewery where I am a certified brewmaster
because I took the class, go to Forest Park and experience it. It is one of the
most gorgeous parks in America. It's awesome.
That's what I would tell you to do. There's just not a ton
going on. But anyway, what happened at Forest Park today?
Walking Ross through the park, by the way, his paw seems to be
doing better. He's moving around good. I like it. Great to see.
So we're walking through and there's this area, also down
there is like the big museum. And there's a big hill that kids take their sleds to when it snows
and they slide down Museum Hill. It's been happening for a hundred years.
I took Ross there, or actually Luther there,
last year back in 04 when it snowed, me and my buddy was in town.
We went over there. Anyway, I digress.
So, I'm walking and there's a girl, there's this
nice black girl sitting on like a bench or whatever and she's
got her headphones on. And as me and Ross walk by she says, you
have a beautiful dog and I said, Well, thank you. I appreciate
that. And then she, she said something and I didn't hear it.
So I said, What was that? And she took off her headphones and
she said, I hope you have a wonderful day. And I'm like,
same to you. I hope your day is wonderful as well.
And I understand that that's a small thing, but understand this, that when you get caught up in
the world of social media, and there is no positive on social media, it is negative, it is hateful,
it is spiteful, it is us versus them and everything is what they try to build you versus the opposition black versus white
Right wing left wing Christian non-Christian all this shit
It is an evil vile place and it will bring you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it and I'm trying
To get my ass out of that funk and out of that world because it's not real. It's poison. It's toxic
Don't take the bait don't take the cheese and I know that that's a small little fucking thing that happened at the park, but I'm you know
38 year old grain white guy over here and this is young black girl probably in her 20s, early 20s,
maybe a teenager sitting on the bench listening to whatever she's listening to and takes the time to
like not just say hey you have a pretty dog but then say I hope you have a wonderful day and when you see that you're like people don't hate each other as much as we are
led to believe but they need us hating each other because that's how they gain power we have to stop
like i've been posting all these old uh JNR shows and different shit that I have found
I'm not doing that to be lazy by the way mean, it is summertime and there are fewer topics going on, but people have been enjoying those and I've been finding more of them in my old email.
And I'm listening to old audio of me and ND Kalu and I love ND and he and I were pretty close when I first got there. We went to Vegas together for a fight. Like I love ND and he and I aren't nearly as close as I'd like us to be and part of that is
because when I was there the second time and Kaepernick and
everything started happening in the world became super
political. You know my opinions were different of those of a
lot of people as it related to Kaepernick and other shit and
I feel like a lot of folks just viewed me differently and I
think ND was one of those and that fucking hurt my heart bro.
Like I hate that that's the way the world world is like I don't want to be in that
world. I don't want to be in a world where it's constant
fucking you versus the other people or black white and brown
white and just I fucking hate it and I and I know it's not
going to change because people need this.
They need this for clout.
They need this for power.
But man when you're walking through a park, and someone takes the
time, I didn't initiate this, that someone looks over you, a
young black girl looks at you and says, I hope you have a
wonderful day. It seems like a small thing. And maybe it sounds
trite. And maybe you're like, boy, Josh, this, I think you're
reaching here. And maybe I am. But when you hear that and see
that you go, like, what the fuck are we doing fighting with each other over fucking everything?
It's driven by algorithms. It's driven by politics. It's driven by politicians and we're all just pawns.
Mongo just pawn in game of life and that is what we are right now.
And once we stop acknowledging that we're a pawn in the game of life and start living our own fucking lives. Things will be better. Fuck the politicians.
Fuck the Bidens.
Fuck the Trumps.
Fuck every politician.
None of them give a fuck about you.
Fuck Elon.
Fuck everybody.
Fuck all of these people.
They don't give a shit about you, me or anybody, but they're doing a damn good job
of turning us against each other.
And I'm sick of that shit.
I listen to this old audio and I'm listening to me and ND having a good time.
And I'm like, people don't even do that
shit anymore. Black dude and white dude on the radio do not
get on the radio and just riff on racial shit and everything
else and laugh about it then afterwards hang out. It's
everything's a fucking war with this shit and it sucks. Anywho,
let's see more to come.