The Josh Innes Show - Doris Burke Slander

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

First off, Game 7 of the NBA Finals turned out to be a dud. Why are so many players blowing out their achilles? I think dudes are in too good of shape. The internet seems to hate Doris Burke. I Actually really enjoy her. I think there are certain dudes who will never accept women as analysts of mens sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, kiddos. So, boy, you talk about interesting timing. So yesterday before game seven of the NBA finals, which turned out to be a dud of a game anyway, well, it was fine for about two and a half quarters. Then Oklahoma City took it over. Pacers could never get back in and in the fourth quarter. Whenever TJ McConnell is the only dude you got scoring for

like a whole quarter, which by the way, thank you, TJ McConnell, because I had a bet last night for 20 points to be scored by each team in each quarter. And it was actually plus money, which is very rare. And if not for TJ McConnell in the third quarter, and then the Pacers hitting some shots down the stretch that were irrelevant, I wouldn't have hit it. So TJ McConnell, you sir sir are a hero and I appreciate you. But I mean, just not really entertaining game. Once Halliburton went down, dude had nine points out of the gate. He's hooping, blows out his

Achilles. By the way, three dudes were injured in the playoffs this year with Achilles, like with Achilles injuries. What's, now I sound like Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with with Achilles injuries? But like, what is it like? It's pretty fascinating. I have no knowledge whatsoever of this at all. But I would say that dudes are now in too good a shape. That probably has nothing to do with blowing out an Achilles. But I'm a fat dude. And I've been a fat dude my whole life, never blown out my Achilles knock on wood. But I feel like dudes are in too good

of shape. I was having this discussion with somebody the other day, a friend of mine, and we were talking about pitchers and about how like, there was supposed to be there could have been an epic pitching matchup in Detroit the other day of skeins versus scubal because there was a double header. And a lot of people argue that you should have like basically forced the two teams to have those two pitchers face each other so you could see two of the best young

pitchers in the game go head to head and perhaps that would have been fun right and we started talking about pitchers and just athletes of a bygone era and what dudes used to look like versus you know guys now and it got us down the wormhole of talking about like dudes that would pitch until they were damn near 50. Like Jamie Moyer, like Jamie Moyer pitched until he was 49 years old in the big leagues 49 years old lefty. That dude doesn't look like he could lift 10 pounds. But the dude pitches

until he's 50. Greg Maddux was a floppy type of dude. Like dudes just used to look Randy Johnson was, you know, 610. So he was an imposing figure. But he was built like a guy that like chain smokes outside of a trailer park. Like there was nothing about dudes back in the day that was impressive. What's that famous picture of Super Bowl One, where Lynn Dawson is in the locker room at halftime smoking a cigarette and drinking like a fresca. And

now like, like it was different. Now, if Lynn Dawson went out there today against these players, he gets ass kicked, right? But like dudes were just a different breed back then and they played a long time. How long did Nolan Ryan pitch? I'm gonna guess that Nolan Ryan, who was just country boy cock strong, I bet Nolan Ryan didn't go'm going to guess that Nolan Ryan who was just country boy cock strong. I bet Nolan Ryan didn't go out there and lift weights. My guess is he's just country boy strong going out there throwing at 95, 96, 97 against these dude, striking out like 7,000 dudes, right? Like that's

just how dudes work. Now dudes are far too concerned with getting chiseled, looking good, looking buff. The old phrase is, looks like Tarzan plays like Jane, which is probably very offensive now. But that's kind of what you're getting from these dudes now. Like that's what athletes are. I have no idea if that has anything to do with this or not. I have no clue. It could just be freak occurrences that three dudes, three pretty big guys guys because we know Tatum got hurt in the playoffs Achilles We know that Halliburton did and who was the other one was it? What's his name from? Dame which I mean he wouldn't have been this far in the playoffs anyway because he never is But Dame also blew out his Achilles so three dudes blew out their Achilles in one playoff

And you wonder like it's why why are dudes suffering this injury I feel like a lot more dudes are suffering this now than I remember now I wouldn't sit there and remember dudes that blow up their Achilles in the 70s 80s and 90s but like it feels like it happens more frequently now than it did then and it happens like someone's blowing out at Achilles I what I think that what Durant blew out an Achilles one year. We just start seeing this pretty frequently now and it's

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I like we talked about this the other day face the NBA who's the future of the NBA what teams are are going to have those to me if you're counting on Shay Gilder's Alexander to be the dude for the future. No one's going to watch basketball outside of people that like basketball and maybe they won't anyway. Maybe we're just hitting an era where there is no dominant superstar that's going to transcend the game. And when I say dominate, I mean transcend. I mean, oh my

god, everybody knows who this guy is because there is not one guy like that that is currently a young dude that is in the NBA that people are like gravitating towards there isn't a Steph Curry, there isn't a LeBron, there isn't a Kobe, those don't exist. And the NBA perhaps needs those to survive and they say survive, they'll always survive, but they need those to thrive. And maybe they're just not going to have one in this era. I don't know, maybe the white dude from Duke will change the game, and he'll

come in it. But I don't know. But speaking of the NBA, the game stunk last night for the last quarter and a half of it wasn't competitive in the fourth quarter wasn't exciting shit. Speaking. Okay, let me do this too. So the broadcast so people have been ripping Doris Burke and I will gladly defend Doris Burke because Doris Burke. It's a lot of shit from a lot of people in the internet world. Sometimes she says wacky shit and I'm seeing a lot of these things now that are these graphics

that were like there was no better broadcast team than Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson. I agree. It was a good broadcast. I'm really not a fan of Mike Breen. I hate the bang and the puking and I was a foul and I really I don't like Mike Breen I am in the minority there. I have accepted that I'm in the minority there. I don't like Mike Breen I never will like Mike Breen. It just is what it is. He's fine, but I'm not really into Mike Breen as a broadcaster

The puking is too much Josh. What is puking? Puking is when you this is me talking if I were to talk kind of like this that's puking right? Yeah, well, that's puking so when I hear Mike brain and he's just talking it's fine guy goes with the basket gets an and one It becomes instead of and a foul. That's why I'm the foul wow I just It's I hate it. I liked Mark Jackson, and I liked Vany. Van Gundy obviously was far too critical for their taste on the broadcast. I think Richard Jefferson fucking sucks. But I like Doris Burke. I have nothing against Doris Burke, but the internet has decided that Doris Burke is the absolute worst and that Doris Burke has to go. Now, some people will defend Doris

Burke just because Doris Burke is a woman and people have to ride it on their white horse and defend a woman against the big bad evil men. I'm not a believer in that. If a woman sucks at her job, say she sucks at her job. That's called equality. There's a lady that's an announcer for the A's. She is dreadful. Her voice is dreadful. It's awful. I don't understand how anybody listens to her. I guess they don't because she's the television voice of the A's. So who even hears it? But

she's awful. That's the chick that way back when when we were in Houston was the fire up the fountains chick. She is awful. And I would say this about a man with a bad voice. Like there are a lot of dudes that I hate. Like, look, I just told you I don't like Mike Breen. I think he's okay. But I don't like Mike Breen. There are a lot of guys. I don't like what's his name that does the what's his name that works for ESPN. There's another guy on there that I really dislike as well. Kevin Harlan I love. There are other guys I just don't. There are guys who just I don't. The LSU play by play guy, you guys would have no clue who he is, is awful. I hate him. So I'm not telling you this because she's a woman that I think she's awful. I also don't like the Philadelphia 76ers lady, but I didn't like her before she became the voice

of the 76ers. I discovered her when I was betting on like conca calf soccer, and like, oh, her voice, like there's certain voices that are just awful. But then there are other lady broadcasters, so I'm totally fine with I liked the gal that used to do Sunday Night Baseball that was an analyst, Jessica Mendoza. I thought she was fine. Like there are ones. But then there's, you know, the other ones like Pam Ward who are all time awful or that other lady that does lady sports and they throw her on the men's football game sometimes and it's like, nope. Like that's an automatic when I hear this woman's voice, it is an automatic

turn the game off. They're they're very she is she is the only human on the planet who I would actively turn a game off if I heard her mostly because you knew it would be a shitty game anyway, but I would turn it off again, not because she's a woman because I just don't like the way she sounds. I have no issue with women doing play by play color analyst, like there's ladies that are hockey color analyst. Hey, ladies play hockey too. If you sound good on the broadcast, I don't care. There are some

people who just cannot stand the idea of a woman being involved in calling a man sport. That's reality. Reality is that there are tons of people on the internet who cannot handle Doris Burke, because she's a woman doing a man's game. That's reality. There are others who might just legit find her annoying and she does say things sometimes where I think she's trying to get cute going into commercial where you're like, okay, you probably didn't need that. But that's what they like about Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson didn't offer any sort of real analysis on a broadcast. You like Mark Jackson because Mark

Jackson had two or three catchphrases that he would say as they're going to commercial slow motion replay of James Harden knocking down a shot in somebody's face. Hand down, man down. Oh, like Beyonce, to the left, to the left. Like that's all the guy did. He didn't add anything. He would bicker a little bit with Van Gundy, but it worked. I don't disagree with you when you say that was a better broadcast. If you are someone who believes that, then yes, Richard Jefferson is no good. There's no real vibe between these people, but that's not Doris Burke's fault. Do you even need three people to call a game? If it were just Doris Burke and Mike Breen, I don't think that would suck. I think Richard Jefferson is pointless. He's not good, but there's a lot of analysts that I think are

awful. Reggie Miller is terrible. Like there's so many bad ones. They try to force three guys on some of these broadcasts. And it's like, let's not do this. Have one good analyst that's in there. And let's go back and forth and have a good time. Let's do that. Again, the Van Gundy, Mark Jackson, Mike Breen broadcast was kind of a gold standardish NBA broadcast of this era. No doubt about that. But what we've got currently, Doris Burke's getting

way too much heat. And I think part of it is driven by some because she's a woman. I think there's some people who will never accept that. Like the only time I have an issue with a woman being an analyst in a game, is if it's a sport that like as an analyst, you need to at least have one person who played the game in a booth, right? That's why I like for the original Monday Night Football when you had Dandy Don and you had I think Keith Jackson was actually the original play-by-play guy for the first season of Monday Night Football But it was Dandy Don and you had Frank Gifford and you had

Eventually, well, it was a Howard Cosell was in there as well. I think they eventually added Frank Gifford, or it might have been vice versa. But either way, like, Howard Cosell famously never played football. He wrote a book called I never played the game. And he hated despised people who were or athletes and ex jocks that were getting these kind of gigs, he hated them. And he would talk about them in his books about how much he hated them. Like I don't think you can have a football broadcast. And not that women can't play some form of football. Look, I never played football at any level

other than flag football. And that you know, a couple of weeks, I tried to play football when I was in middle school and broke my wrist and was petrified to play. Like, so this isn't a woman thing. It's a there. I don't believe that there is a woman who could be an analyst on a television broadcast that can provide insight better than a former player could. That said, a lot of these former players just get on there and say obvious shit, you know, like I think any of us can get on there and say obvious

shit. If you're gonna put a woman on a football broadcast, that's not the play by play person. If you're putting them in an analyst role, you would also have to have another man that had played the game. That's the only time that matters to me. Like a woman could play softball and softball is basically baseball. So right, like the strategy isn't all that much different. A woman can play hockey at a high level. So I have no issue with a woman hockey analyst. Basketball, A woman can play hockey at a high level. So I have no issue with a woman hockey analyst. Basketball, obviously, women can play that at a high level. None of that golf, none of that bothers me.

Football, if you're going to put a two-man broadcast or a two-person broadcast on television, you need to have a dude that played the game in there if you're going to throw in a woman who's never played in the NFL. And let's be real women have never played football at any sort of real high level. You can create brawn panty leagues, you can create powder puff leaves you can create tattoo. I was the PA announcer for a women's professional tackle football league team in Baton Rouge, eight people would go to the games. So like I was the PA announcer and then I was the guy

in charge of the music and they didn't give me anything to work with this is before computers were loaded with music. This is 2004 2005. So it's not like I had a laptop with 3 billion songs. So I would just play shit that was on my CD collection. And I played a lot of Welcome to the Jungle. And then I would occasionally play like it's raining men and get piss off the lesbians. But outside of that, like, like,

there's no way a woman dude, a woman can understand the game. So, Jillian is brilliant when she watches these games. She's very smart. But if you're going to put something on TV, you're probably not going to be able to survive without a dude that played football in a football broadcast. A woman can do it just like Howard Cosell could do it as the third guy just like Tony Kornheiser never played football, but was the third guy or just like Dennis Cosell could do it as the third guy just like Tony Kornheiser never played football But was the third guy or just like Dennis Miller never played football, but was the third guy

I have nothing against that. I think that's an okay concept because it kind of adds like the every man in there That's kind of asking the same questions. You're asking as someone who never played at home. So I think that's good But it can't be the only person or she couldn't be the only person But if like Mendoza was the only analyst on Sunday Night Baseball, I can live with that, it's baseball. How hard is it to fucking break down, you know? Anywho, that's all to say that I think Doris Burke gets a bad rap from some of these people and people are ganging up on her now.

I mean look, Mark Jackson literally added nothing to a broadcast other than three catch phrases. Anywho, more to come.