The Josh Innes Show - Draymond Green Continues To Be The Perfect Heel

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Draymond Green is a giant asshole on the court. He knows he's an asshole. Everyone knows he's an asshole. Last night, his Warriors got throttled and after the game Draymond said he's tired of people portraying him as an angry black man. Only a first class chicken shit heel would take that angle. That's exactly what Draymond Green is...he's a chicken shit heel. He's great at it. I struggle to find another player in sports history that played this role any better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So last night we had one basketball game and I was right about that one. I don't know if I talked about it on the podcast or not. I think I did. But I said to play the over the team over for Minnesota. That's what I played last night. Their number was 107 and a half. I think was the number and I turned the game off whenever they got to their number because it was a blowout and I didn't really give a shit and the game was theirs the whole time anyway. They're up eight nothing two minutes into the game. So but that was last night. So I kind of made up. I made up for my mediocrity in the games on Wednesday with a good performance on Thursday. So at least I had that. Now we've got two games tonight. Let me take a look here and see if there's anything I could recommend for you.

Let's see. Denver at home. Let's see. The over-under in that game is 232.5. That is bonkers. That is a huge number in the game. Denver's number is 113.5 and Oklahoma City's number is 119.5. I don't know that I have any thoughts on that. Both of these games tonight, by the way, have huge over-unders. Cleveland is a... You want to know what's wild, man. Cleveland is a five-point favorite on the road despite the fact they lost the first two games at home as double digit favorites. So we'll see. But now Indiana's at home. There's this thing on Fandool called raining buckets where you can take like different things like every team

to score 20 points in each quarter. You can get that for plus money. Each team to score 100 points is you want to know it's bonkers, is there's zero value in that. Now here's one for you. So the other night there was a bet in this and they have it here again. Any team to win by 50 points or any team to score 150 points. So whenever Oklahoma City was beating the shit out of Denver, they damn near got to 150, which tonight the value on that would be plus 3500. So 100 bucks wins 3500 if somebody gets to 150. And oh, by the way, Denver with 30 seconds or rather Oklahoma City with 30 seconds to go in that game had a shot at the horn. Not it wasn't at the horn.

I guess it was a shot with like 30 seconds to go, but it was their last possession with the ball. They weren't going to shoot after that with like 30 seconds. They took a shot and missed it. If they would have hit that shot. They would have gotten to 150 and I would imagine that was probably better value that time probably close to plus 4000. You can also take a team to win by 50 and another.

So here you go. It's plus 8000 for any team to win by 50 and another. So here you go. It's plus 8000 for any team to win by 50 points. Oh, by the way, Oklahoma City has won a playoff game in this playoffs by 50 points and oh, by the way, they won by like 45 over Denver the other night. Not going to happen again. It was a perfect storm, but can you imagine if you went in and you put, you know, 50 bucks on a 50-point victory and you see Oklahoma City five points away from it the other night so. But anyway with that said let's talk about Draymond Green after these words.

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Pick 6 not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Voidware prohibited. One per customer. Bonus awarded is non-withdrawable Pick 6 bonus picks that expire in 14 days. Limited time offer. Terms at pick6.draftkings.com All right, so Draymond Green is a fascinating character. Why is Draymond Green a fascinating character? Because he's actually truly the greatest villain heel character in the history of professional sports. Like I cannot think of a person who at least, I mean like I feel this dude lives the shit out of the gimmick and the perfect thing about being a heel is you almost

have to learn how to play victim but also believe your own bullshit. That's a key in this. Like if you feel like you're getting mistreated you have to genuinely believe that you're getting mistreated. You have to genuinely believe that you're getting mistreated and you have to sell to people that you are getting mistreated, right? He's great at this. I fucking hate him and that's what he wants. He wants people to hate him. Like, it's like this. Like Angel Reese wants to be a bad bitch. That's like her whole shtick, right? She's like, I'm bad and like, look, I'm the best basketball player in this and all this shit right but then like when anybody's mean to or it becomes like why you guys got to be so mean to people and like and and like I'm just a person too and oh I'm in a bikini with my ass hanging out but why y'all sexualizing me I swear that was an angel impression that was not a Carl Anthony Towns impression but it could have been but anywho but that's what you deal with with a lot of people. A lot of people like want all the smoke until they get the

smoke and then they play victim. Whereas like Draymond will play victim, but he's like he's so brilliant at convincing you that he believes his own bullshit. And that's what makes what he does brilliant. He's impossible to watch play. He's not very fucking good. He's never been very good. He's obviously a very good defender. He's a solid basketball player. He's not a superstar, but he's always been a solid basketball player, right? But like, it's the antics. It's the sideshow. It's

Dennis Rodman times a fucking thousand man. And why do I bring this up today? Draymond Green hits back at quote agenda to make him look like an angry black man. He's finally gone this route. He's found every route he can take and now he's like look I've run out of gimmicks. Now the gimmick is I'm being mistreated because I'm a black guy. He's now remember when you go to the well of he's getting this treatment because he's a quote unquote angry black guy, you are out of options unless you come

out and say that you're like pansexual and you're being treated this way because you're a pansexual or you fuck horses or something. If that's the case, then that's your next angle. You have no other angle. You have now gone nuclear. You've pulled the Trump card, right? You have said, you know what, people are calling me a dickhead. Well, I'm going to go this route. You're doing this to me because I'm an angry black man. Let's read this story. Dreymon Green picked up his

fifth technical foul of the playoffs during the Golden State Warriors 117-93 loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Thursday night. Green's latest technical came via a review after he caught Minnesota big man Nas Reid in the head with an elbow during the second quarter, which by the way was the right call. And Stan Van Gundy on the broadcast is like, I don't really see anything there. Like, bullshit, it was obvious. The call left him incensed and he let the refs know about it with teammates including Steph Curry trying to calm Green down. Coach Steve Kerr removed Green from the game and he did not return for six minutes of game time.

Afterwards, Green was incensed about the perception people have of him, saying he was sick of the agenda to try to keep making me look like an angry black man. Well, when we watch you on television, here's what we see. We see a man who is angry and that man happens to be black. Therefore, by definition, sir, you are in fact an angry black man. I don't see a white guy when I see you. I don't see an Asian guy or a Mexican guy when I see you. I see a black guy. I don't see a black guy that's very happy most of the time. You know what I see? An angry, enraged, violent at times black dude. A dude that steps on people's balls. A dude that

elbows people. A dude that's a dirty, cheap shot artist that is constantly angry. That happens to be black. Therefore, sir, you are in fact an angry black man. I'm not an angry black man, Green said in the locker room via video shared by The Athletic. I'm a successful, educated black man with a great family and I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do. The agenda to try to keep me making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. This guy

is brilliant. He's the perfect heel. He's a chicken shit heel. He's a dirty guy that'll pull out a brass knuckle out of his trunks. He's the kind of guy that'll throw powder in somebody's eyes when the ref isn't looking and then he will claim that he was the one that was cheated. Look, I think he's a sack of shit but he's brilliant at being a heel. There is no greater heel. I'm trying to think of someone that was a better heel in the history of professional sports. Find one for me. Like there are

guys that are wild. Like Dennis Rodman was wild and he had his antics and there was the stretch in the mid 90s where he totally lost his fucking mind. But I never viewed Dennis Rodman as like the true quote unquote heel. And maybe I'm like it might be like I'm giving this guy too much credit but he has figured this shit out. Dude, you are an angry black man. You are a volatile player. You have put yourself ahead of the team many fucking times. Your teammates, they'll never tell you this. I guarantee

they're sick of dealing with your shit. Jerry Stackhouse, who's the current assistant coach for Golden State, does not want to have to be going out on the court and grabbing a 30-something-year-old dude off of the court because he can't stop fucking trying to fight people and being angry about shit. They don't want to do that. Everybody wants you to grow the fuck up, but you don't do it. And why? Because it's your brand. You get on your podcast and you talk shit about people constantly. It's your brand and it works. I think people are kind of tired of it and they're sick of it but like it works for you. The culture

loves drama and the culture loves gossip so they love that you get on your podcast and talk shit about other players because people love drama. You want to know the podcasts of mine that get the most listens? When I say, hey, there's a job opening at 97.5, here's how I would fix it or, hey, let me tell you about this time this radio thing happened. People eat that shit up. People love drama and you provide drama. You are the perfect chicken shit heel. You are him. Most people want the smoke and

they want to act like a bad bitch and then they just kind of chicken shit heel. You are him. Most people want the smoke and they want to act like a bad bitch and then they just kind of cower and they wilt or or they'll get into a situation where they like like the the kayfabe drops and then like off the court. They're just a totally different guy anytime we see Draymond Green in some sort of public setting. He's being an asshole and now he's being an asshole. And now he's doing the perfect chicken shit angle here of, I'm not an angry black man, I'm educated

and I'm great at basketball with a great family, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The reality is the you that people know on the court is that of an angry dude that happens to be black. There's no way anyone watches you on a basketball court and goes, that guy seems joyful. No, you're angry, you happen to be black, therefore you are an angry black man. But like you create this yourself, like you're, it's brilliant. You create this enemy against you. You create this character that's an asshole. Then people call you an asshole. Then you get pissed

at them for calling you an asshole. It is brilliant and you're a juxtaposition to Steph Curry who outside of that time he threw his mouth piece at that person in the front row in Houston. Outside of that for the most part like he's kind of the goody two shoes choir boy whatever and you're this angry douchebag on the court. It's tiresome like even the announcers the national announcers are like yeah, this guy's shtick is getting tired. It's lame, but you find your way to continue saying shit that is so preposterous, but you sell us on it that you believe

it thus making you an unlikable character the perfect fucking heel. You're like Andy fucking Kaufman. You are Andy Kaufman in Memphis talking shit to Jerry Lawler in Memphis, Tennessee. Like that's you. Dude's great at it. Like I have no zero doubt that the dude's a smart dude. Dude went to Michigan State. He ain't stupid. And I don't know what he is in terms of like book smarts or whatever. Who the fuck cares? That means nothing to anyone. Is he a quantum physicist? No. Then who gives a shit? Is he a doctor? No. Then who gives a

shit what kind of book smart the guy is? Is he a lawyer? No. Then who gives a shit? He's a basketball player, but he is brilliant at marketing himself. He's brilliant at getting himself constant attention. He's brilliant at generating heat, and he's brilliant at getting people to listen to his podcast. It's brilliant. Like you watch him and you fucking hate him and then he says the perfect things in the media after to make you hate him even more. It's amazing because like and he's playing victim but he's playing victim in like a in a cocky way. Like

playing victim in a woe is me way doesn't play. As we brought up Angel Reese you can't be a victim and be like why do people treat me this way? I'm so, this is not nice. I am such a good person. Like playing victim in a I'm smart and I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do. Like that's a cocky way of playing victim. It just adds to it. And you watch because you just hate the dude. You hate him. Like even Dillon Brooks who's hateable, like Dillon Brooks would give his left nut to be Draymond Green because Dillon Brooks at the end

of the day ain't one shit and for the most part people just kind of laugh at Dillon Brooks and say he's a shitty basketball player, right. He's built a brand of being like Draymond Light and I think that's why Draymond hates him so much and they talk shit to each other. Dillon Brooks good defender, okay shooter, sometimes have a great day, some days have a bad game but Dillon Brooks doesn't have any of the skins on the wall that Draymond has, and he will never have the skins on the wall that Draymond has. What Draymond has is skins on the wall, he's got championships, part of the greatest team of this era, and

Draymond is what these other, like there's not a ton of guys that want to be like Draymond, but Dylan Brooks wants to be Draymond. Dylan Brooks wants to be a badass. Dylan Brooks wants to be the guy that everybody hates and people dislike Dylan Brooks but he's not willing to go far enough to be Draymond. Draymond takes it to the limit. Draymond lives the gimmick. Draymond is that dude. Dylan Brooks ain't willing to do that and he's not on teams that are any good like great. You're on

this Rockets team. You lost in the first **** round. Oh, you played for the Memphis Grizzlies, they lose in the playoffs all the time. Dude's brilliant, man. And I get it. I hate the dude. And he goes with the angle of like, look, I'm not an angry black man. By every definition, you are an angry black man when you are on the court, you are black and you are constantly angry. And you've got people watching, knowing that the refs do everything they can to not throw you out.

But then you come back and make it sound like the refs do anything they can to throw you out. When anybody with eyes watches the game and goes, they are trying to save you. Like they changed a call basically from a flagrant to a technical or vice versa in the Rocket series just to keep your ass in the game. And you know that that's what they're doing. We all watch it and we see the way they protect you. Yet it's, the refs are doing anything they can to get me out and everybody treats me like an angry black man.

It's also easy to take that route when you just lost by fucking 20 something points and you need something to divert attention away from the fact that without Steph Curry, you guys are dog shit. See, you come in with the, I have an angry black man angle, and boom, the dude is a perfect wrestling heel. It's, hey, kudos to you, brother. Alright, more to come.