The Josh Innes Show - Eagles Choke At Dallas

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

The Eagles allowed the Cowboys to put together their largest comeback in franchise history. That's something. Do we think AJ Brown was fine with the loss because he got his? Speaking of AJ, he's proof that if you complain enough, you can get what you want. Once again, Jalen Hurts continues to be a great enigma. He may be the greatest enigma in NFL history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We will start with the Eagles. collapse against the Cowboys because it was truly kind of a microcosm? Maybe that's the word I'm looking for. Like, in a nutshell, this is who the Eagles are offensively. You don't know who the hell they are. You don't know how good Jalen Hertz is. You know he doesn't suck, but you don't know how good he is. And you know that they're good and they could win the Super Bowl because their defense is elite,

but then you look at what they do offensively and you go, wow, first quarter, basically 21 points in the first quarter. They're dominating. It's 21-0, games over, and then they don't score the rest of the way. So they are a fascinating team, particularly they're a fascinating offense, because defensively, they're usually consistent, although they weren't very good defensively yesterday. They are consistently good defensively and consistently inconsistent offensively, and it's fascinating to watch. So let's get into that after these messages. At Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans. We've mastered made-to-measure growth and expansion advice,

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The guy has only been to two Super Bowls, yet when you watch him play and you watch the Eagles' offense play, you don't understand how they win the games because the Eagles offense is not very good. At least last year when you would watch them, Sequin Barclay would put up 150 yards and you'd go, all right, I get it. There is not one thing these guys do well. They tush push well, and even that was kind of mediocre last week. Like, what do the Eagles do well offensively?

And the answer is nothing. They don't run the ball well. They don't consistently throw the ball well. What do they do well consistently? and the answer is nothing. Their greatest consistency is being inconsistent. That's who they are. So when you watch them, it's maddening because you've watched basically the same team a year ago

be able to run for 200, 250 yards a game like it was nothing. Now you watch them. Sequin Barclay barely exists. He touches the ball so rarely that when he does, he fumbles. You score 21 points out of the gate. You're up early. you're running away from it, you're on the road, you're going to dominate the game, and then you don't score the rest of the game.

And that's what the Cowboys trying to give you the game multiple times with turnovers and other mistakes. Then, I know I'm kind of fast forwarding here, but go to the end of the game. The Cowboys are forced to punt. You drop the punt inside the 10, and the Cowboys inexplicably, and I don't care what the metrics tell you, what the data tells you, what analytics tell you. I do not care. In that scenario, under four minutes to go, you have done nothing offensively. And by you, I mean the Eagles.

The Eagles haven't done a damn thing on offense since the first quarter, early second quarter. You take the three points and you try to ice the game. Yet the Cowboys, inexplicably, they get the muffed punt inside the 10. They don't kick the field goal on fourth down. They give the ball back. Like, as bad as the Eagles were. as inept as they were offensively for the last three quarters of the game. The Cowboys, who are just as inept a lot of the time and do dumb shit all the time,

that the team doesn't kick the field goal with under four minutes to go to try to take the lead. They give you the ball back, and you still can't do anything with it. It's fascinating. So, I don't really know what there is to say or who there is to blame. all I know is that the Eagles a year ago were a pretty freaking good offense with one of the best running backs in football, a running back that was MVP caliber of the league, a team that could run it up your ass and milk the clock for the last 10 minutes of games that could dominate you. Jalen Hertz has never been great. We know Jalen Hertz isn't great.

Jalen Hertz has moments. Hertz has moments where you watch him and go, holy shit, this guy's a baller. And you know that all he does is. wins and all that shit. So he's not a guy that you're going to say, and hit the bricks because he wins 60-some-odd percent of his games and has been to two Super Bowls, as we've discussed. But, like, I'm seeing Twitter and I'm looking at, you know, you type in Jalen Hertz into Twitter.

Jalen Hertz overrated. Jailen Hertz ain't overrated. Dudes that go to two Super Bowls win one of them and win 60-something percent of their games ain't overrated. Don't work that way. Guy can ball. guy's a player.

You don't just accidentally go to two Super Bowls, unless you're Eli Manning. There is a caveat. You can be overrated if you're Eli Manning. That is the one exception. Jalen Hertz is not overrated. Jalen Hertz is adequately rated. Jalen Hertz is who he is.

Jalen Hertz wins football games. Jalen Hertz is successful. Jalen Hertz does all the right shit, says all the right hokey, fucking inspirational quote shit. He does all the right shit. No one has ever accused Jalen Hertz of being a guy that's going to go, out there and dominate

on his own. He has moments where he does, but he's not Tom Brady. He's not insert, whatever, Josh Allen. He ain't one of those guys. He just so happens to go to two Super Bowls. But this year, he's not been as good. This year, the offense

has been bad. But hey, give him credit here. He got the ball early to his whiny, wide receiver. Because, look, you want to give somebody credit. Give A.J. Brown credit. A.J. Brown wind enough that he got the ball early and often in the first quarter. So at least that worked out well for the Eagles.

See, A.J. Brown is a great example of a guy who proves if you just complain enough. If you bitch enough. If you throw your team under the bus, enough. If you're a selfish player, but you do it under the guys of I just want to help the team win, they'll force the ball to you early in the game and get you your number so you'll shut the fuck up. So at least give credit to A.J. Brown. He did a brilliant job.

Like that should be, he could teach a master class. A.J. Brown could teach a master class on whining publicly enough, but making sure you do it under the guise of, hey, I want to win. I want to win. Like, oh, shucks, man, I just really want to help this team win. No, you want your fucking numbers and that's fine. But he has proven that all you have to do is go out in the public, go to the media, act as if you're pissed off that the team's offense is sputtering, when in reality, you're

just pissed off that you're not getting 70, 80, 90 yards a game. So they got the ball to A.J. Brown. AJ put up his numbers. And I don't even know that, do we hear anything from A.J. Brown? They lost yesterday. The offense disappeared in the last three quarters. Did we hear anything from A.J. Brown then?

I don't think so because A.J. Brown, what did he do last game? A.J. Brown, 110 yards in the loss to Dallas. I guarantee A.J. Brown was feeling pretty good after that one. You know, 49 and 13 in the previous two games, but 110 in that one, I'm going to guess A.J. Brown didn't have a ton to say. I'll figure it out because A.J. Brown got his. Another thing I found interesting, and I was sort of tweeting about this yesterday, because I was watching James Winston because I was watching the lion struggle against the hapless, terrible giants. The last couple of games that the Giants have played with James versus the games that the Eagles have played with Jalen Hertz. James Winston was responsible for 600, like between the two games, 623 yards, four touchdowns, 47 points scored.

Jalen Hertz, 376 yards of offense versus the Packers and the Lions the last couple of weeks. Jameses, four touchdowns, Jalen 2, 47 points for James, 26 for Hertz. So just throwing that out there. Now, again, not that it matters. Not that that's going to make or break anybody. Not that that's going to change the world. However, it is an interesting little note. Let me see.

Let me look up, let's look up A.J. Brown. Let's see if A.J. Brown had anything to say yesterday about the loss, because my man had 110. So I like this one. So the first thing that pops up when you search A.J. Brown on Twitter, it's the video of Pat Bev taking off his jersey and crying and throwing it into the stands after, I guess that was when he was with the Timberwolves. Like, A.J. Brown, after the Eagles blew a 21-0 lead, but he had eight catches for 110 yards and a touchdown. Yes, well-played, well-played, whoever you are, sir. That's like the biggest thing.

A.J. Brown, when his team lost, but he got eight catches, 100-plus yards in a touchdown. It's a kid holding like a lollipop. A.J. Brown in the locker room watching everyone upset, but he got his numbers. A.J. Brown waited so long for that T.D. He forgot how to celebrate. Let's see. How A.J. Brown will be sleeping tonight looking at his stats, even though the Eagles lost. Abandon the run game just to make him happy. It's a picture of a guy sleeping and smiling at his phone. Let's see. That's the basic thing you're reading here. Let's see. All A.J. Brown needed to be elite again was for me to bet on Dallas Goddard. And the person's giff is of Erkel saying, did I do that? Well played. There's a picture of sad Drake, and it says, AJ Brown fake-up set in the locker room knowing he got his numbers today.

Like, people know who this guy is. People know he's full as shit. Like, look, we could sit here and dump on Hertz, and Hertz, you know, can be full of shit and hurts, you know, with all of his, like, lame-ass quarterback speak. And, like, look, you've got to say this. and whether he brings it on or not. Sequin, at least, is a guy, not Sequin, but Jalen Hertz.

Jalen Hertz is a guy that has to take the beating. Like, what beating does A.J. Brown take in the media, for the most part. For the most part, the fans of the media people suck farts out of this guy's asshole. They're like, yeah, get him the ball. You know, who takes the biggest beating? The quarterback. Jalen Hertz has to sit there and get his ass kicked by the media and by the fans all the time because he's the quarterback. A.J. Brown could sit there in his locker and bitch him about.

how he's not getting the ball. Do it under the guys of, oh, man, I just want to help the team win, and I hate that I'm not helping the team win. And that's that. And everybody blows him. They're like, yeah, he demands the ball. Get in the ball. All Jalen Hertz does is win 60-something percent of his games. And we're like, fuck this guy. This guy. Like, again, it is a wild world. But that's the way it works. That's the way of this game. That's the way that the dynamic works with the Eagles. I like to find Vitty. I like to hear what AJ Brown had to say in the locker room. I can't find any videos of him.

I'm sure they're out there somewhere. But like, I'm sure it exists. But you know old buddy's just totally happy. I'm glad that the rest of the world at least gets it. I appreciate that. Like, I enjoy the fact that the rest of the world at least knows that A.J. Brown's full of shit. Like, that's all I ask for is that other people acknowledge. that A.J. Brown is full of shit. He was full of shit when he was in Tennessee, and he's full of shit. Look, I don't disagree with his viewpoints on the Eagles offense. We talked about that last week. The Eagles offense is not good. It is inconsistent. It has issues. I agree with them. But if anybody thinks that A.J. Brown is just upset that the team's not winning or that, like, they were winning despite the fact he wasn't getting his numbers and he was still bitching. The proof is there. The dude is putting up the numbers and,

now he's in a good mood. Last couple of weeks, team's been finding ways to win the games, again, which at the end of the day is supposed to be the answer to everything. You're supposed to win the games. I guess that only applies if you're like mediocre quarterbacks like Shudur Sanders. Then it matters that you win the games. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.

But the whole point of the game is to win. Your boy goes out and wins the games and he's like, oh, not that it matters anyway. I just want to help the team win. Then they lose and you know all buddies doing a fuss. Jig in the locker room because he's out there putting up his numbers. So, eagles are a mess. We know they're a mess, yet here they are, just sitting there still atop a shitty division,

a division that they cannot lose. It's interesting. I'm fascinated to see what direction this thing goes. And we talked about it. We spent all that time talking about Hertz last week. Hertz is the greatest enigma possibly in the history of the NFL. Because there's nobody that's that inconsistent that wins as much as he does. Like there are guys that are accidentally good and can win a couple of games.

You know, Tebow is an example. But like if you watch Tebow, the guy would be like 7 of 19, yet he'd somehow connect on a 10-yard pass that would go for 80 yards and they'd find a way to win. And you'd be like, holy shit, this guy just finds ways to win. It's incredible watching this guy find ways to win. Then you watch Jalen Hertz. And he's much better. he's an exponentially better player than Tebow was and he's also a just finds a way to win guy

and you know he's good and he's been to two Super Bowls yet you kind of look at him through the same lens as you would look at a Tebow. You go, how? It is a, it's bizarre. I have never seen anything like this. If you have an example, shoot me a message. But NFL-wise, I cannot think

of another Jalen Hertz situation. I can't think of a scenario where you've got a dude they can put up the numbers he can put up when he's right, a guy that's been to two Super Bowls, a guy that wins 60-some-odd percent of his games. He's top 20 all-time and winning percentage. All-time. Now, there are some guys that have played over 200 games

and he's played like 80 or whatever. Fine. But the guy's top 20 all-time and winning percentage. In the history of the NFL, a long time. Yet on a week-in, week-out basis, we're like, I don't even know if this guy's good. Like, that's bizarre. Anyway, more to come.