The Josh Innes Show - Eagles Win..Are They A Real Contender?

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

The Eagles easily handled the Rams on Sunday Night. I think it's time to put the Eagles into the class of teams that can win it all. Is Saquon Barkley a legit threat to win MVP? His odds are +270 to w...in it. Is this a good bet? The Texans are not close to being a contender. We look at the weekend in college football. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:05 we are your local dignity memorial provider find us at dignity memorial.ca the dignity memorial brand name is used to identify a network of licensed funeral cremation and cemetery providers owned and operated by affiliates of service corporation international all right jamoke sunday night uh 10 38 a very fast moving sunday night football football game that was a snooze. Not an interesting game at all. I really kind of stopped paying attention in the fourth quarter, and all of a sudden I look up
Starting point is 00:01:32 and there's Cooper Cup scoring a garbage touchdown, which means I missed a parlay by one catch from Jahan Dotson. Fuck you, Jahan Dotson! You couldn't have got two catches? I think that you might have to start talking about the Eagles as possibly Super Bowl type of team. Oh, I think so.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I think so for sure. Now, again, I'm not a big Jalen Hurts guy, so let's see what happens when Jalen Hurts has to throw the ball to beat you. But maybe he won't have to throw the ball to beat you because they just have Saquon Barkley going for 250, legitimately an MVP candidate here. 300 combined rushing and receiving today. Just stupid.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's a beast. It's sick. So he's a legit MVP candidate. So according to the odds right now, the odds on favorite to win the MVP is Josh Allen. I disagree with this but uh it's josh allen and then it's um it's lamar and it's jared goff and then it's saquon barkley is the king right after saquon barkley then uh no mahomes and then herbert Really? I just saw Joe Giglio posted the screenshot. I guess it sort of makes sense, though, because the King isn't going to win
Starting point is 00:02:55 because Lamar is on the same team, and they're not going to give the MVP to the running back on the team in which the quarterback is also a quarterback and running back. That's just not going to happen. Derrick Henry is plus 6 000 everybody really like that's just wild to me that derrick henry is that far behind saquon barkley who's now plus 750 now saquon's had to have had like three or 450 yard games or like games like that where you're damn near at 150 like what saquon's been doing is stupid I also it's weird to me that Jalen Hurts has better odds than Patrick Mahomes to an MVP I agree um Jalen Hurts scores
Starting point is 00:03:33 a bunch of touchdowns good for him we had that discussion before about how many touchdowns he scores and how would they get to the one yard line and then they push his ass in there but that's not overly impressive to me that you know they push you for a yard and you score a touchdown doesn't mean much but the thing is Mahomes hasn't really played well but you I say hadn't played well he hasn't played extraordinary but part of it is because he's Mahomes you know people expect so much more of him like that you know he's having just a you know a blah nine and one ten and one season here you, so people don't really pay that much attention to it. Uh, and he's turned the ball over a good bit, but with the up and down play from the receivers and guys being hurt and having to bring in new dudes and here comes, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:14 uh, Deandre Hopkins, all the moves they've had to make, like it's actually kind of impressive what he's done because again, they lose key components of their offense seemingly all the time they have to bring in other people and they just keep rolling so yes the numbers aren't gaudy right the stats aren't gaudy but like the idea that Mahomes isn't a better candidate for the MVP than Jalen Hurts is stupid but it is what it is neither one of them are going to win it so you know if we want to get, let's go put some money on Joe Burrow. He is having quite the year despite his team sucking. And if his team didn't
Starting point is 00:04:49 suck, he'd probably be right up there. But Joe's plus 2,000. Let's go on a run. Let's get Joey be the MVP. And then you redeem yourself for that time you were going to bet on him to win the Heisman. And you didn't. The difference is that was like plus 25,000 or some shit I forgot
Starting point is 00:05:06 no it was plus like 150,000 I forgot what the number was it was a shit ton I will not be making that bet with you if you'd like to bet on Joey B go for it but they ain't gonna give the MVP to some stat hoarder whose team has set three or four games under 500 at the end of the year that will not happen at least with Saquon a plus, you feel like you're getting pretty good value for a guy who's having a monumental season running and catching the football. So I would consider like that's a solid play, like plus 750, like, you know, it's worth the shot. Now, are they probably going to end up just giving the MVP award to Josh Allen maybe and
Starting point is 00:05:43 they're blowing him because, you know, he lost his receivers and blah blah blah they keep winning games there you know don't ignore the fact that they play in a dog shit division as well like now also it's important to note about Saquon Saquon's out here balling Saquon and the again the Eagles have continued to play a lot of shitty teams and they're beating these shitty teams now i don't think the rams are a shitty team i think they're an okay team you go on the road you beat them fine but they've beaten up on a lot of shitty teams but a lot of the league is shitty so like who cares they're winning games and especially like who's who's good in the nfc the lions the lions are good the eagles probably the lions the eagles nobody in the uh nfc west um the nfc north because i don't believe i don't buy the vikings so uh and i know they won today
Starting point is 00:06:36 against the bears but big the packers are solid uh if they're healthy and and and my man's growing isn't you know flaring up or having issues i think that they're really solid too so I mean but like you look in the NFC it's not like you're looking at just dominant teams even though you're looking at what you're getting from both uh the Eagles and the Lions both of them are like putting up numbers and they're winning a lot of games but like when you think like all-time dominant type teams like there's nobody like if if somebody went in and beat the lions in a playoff game would it shock you it'd be a surprise but i don't know that i'd say it's shocking if the eagles get to the playoffs they catch the wrong matchup against somebody could the eagles lose yeah they could like like nobody is like
Starting point is 00:07:20 a dominant team to the point that if you looked at them and they lost, you'd be shocked that they lost, right? I don't think you get that. At this very moment, if the season were to end today, the Eagles would play the Commanders. Okay, well, the Commanders would not beat them in the playoffs because the Commanders are a total fraud. I don't think the Commanders can fall out of the playoffs at this point. They could.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They're only one win off of Arizona here. That's true. You know, the Saints ain't too far behind them. They only need to win three more games to get into that seventh spot. Let's fucking go. I don't want that to happen. I want them to lose. I mean, the NFC's a mess.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Well, that's what I'm saying, though. So, like, I don't think Arizona. I don't think Washington. I don't think. Now, a team I think that if they're healthy that could be a team like the Eagles would be a Tampa because Tampa can move the ball vertically in the air and they've got playmakers this very moment they're not even in I know but I was looking at the standings and they're five and six so if they could somehow climb up they have to get what
Starting point is 00:08:19 they're two behind Washington right now um who's seven and five so like to me a team like Tampa if they get healthy and somehow sneak in could upset somebody funny how like these two wild cards are gonna be gobbled up by like Minnesota and Green Bay nine wins and eight wins and then we've got two division winners with six wins yep but that last wild card spot's gonna be interesting and if you're Philly and you get the two seed, which you're locked into at this point, you could get the one. You'd have to get some help from the Lions, and you've got to win. But Seattle ain't going to catch it, and Atlanta ain't going to catch it.
Starting point is 00:08:54 So you're going to be married to the two, which means you play the seven, correct? So that means you would play Washington or Arizona. And I don't believe that a team like Washington, Arizona, or I think Tampa could have a shot. I mean, look at the Rams. Like, I think the Rams are a better football team than Washington. And the Rams just got their dicks knocked off at home without a garbage touchdown. They lose by 20-something points to the Eagles in this game.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So, like, you have to look at those games and go, like, are the Eagles actually legitimately good? Now, I also don't think, I don't think San Francisco's out of it. I don't know what the latest is with Purdy, but if he's back, I mean, they could sneak into that seven. No, it's not the seven that you'd be looking at. They're one game out of their division. That too. I'm not looking at
Starting point is 00:09:38 either one. I'm not looking at any of the NFC West teams as the wild card, but they're all alive to win the division. Like even the Rams who lost today and have five wins, they're a game out of the division. So, and I don't know, you got schedules and all that, but like, you should look at them for the wild card because right now, one of those three teams is probably going to get that seven spot, Arizona, Seattle, or San Francisco. Maybe, maybe, but wash.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, you look at Washington, Washington, who i don't think is very good and i get that they lost to the cowboys so this sounds ridiculous but they have got games against shitty teams coming up and they are better than some of the shitty teams are facing the cowboys like strangely enough cooper rush and tommy devito make a game that two or three weeks ago looked like it was going to be dog shit on Thanksgiving. Like, I'll take, because it's the Cowboys and the Giants, right? All right, so Cowboys and Giants. Like, three weeks ago when you had, like, healthy Dak
Starting point is 00:10:34 and healthy and playing and still on the team Daniel Jones, you're like, this. Still on the team Daniel Jones. And, like, this team fucking sucks. This game's going to be awful. At least, like, Tommy Cutlets v. Cooper Rush maybe got a little something going on there, so it made it a little bit more interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I love the Cooper Rush passing yards. They're probably going to boost up again. Like, today they were, like, 193. Like, what are we doing? Or 202, I think. What are we doing? I know. The man slings it.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Not only does he sling it, but then they're running the ball. Like, as I told you would happened in that game against Washington, because Washington gives up rushing yards, Dowdle had a big day. So all that said, he came through for me. Now, again, as we said, though, you start looking at the NFC and the NFC is like, there's nobody that's like an unbeatable force. Like I get like the lions look like that now. And I believe the lions are the best team in the NFC. The world thinks the Lions are the best team in the NFC.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But you start looking at them, and you're like, okay, what happens if they face the Eagles in the playoffs? If it got to that, could the Eagles control the clock like they do in a lot of these games and put together these long, methodical three, four, five yards of pop drives like this and lull them to sleep? They could. I have to amend. Just let me amend this. Because I've said for the last three or four weeks that I think the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:12:00 the Ravens, and the Lions are the three legitimate Superbowl contenders. The Eagles have to go in there at this point because they just keep winning. And if you say, Josh, do you think that they could line up today and the Eagles could beat the Lions? I do. Do I think the Lions could beat the Eagles? Certainly. But then once you start getting past that in the NFC, like the Falcons are well below these teams. The Seahawks are well below these teams. You know what I'm saying? Like the Seahawks could get hot and throw for 400 yards. That's very possible.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But the Seahawks are not on the level of the Eagles. They're not on the level of the Lions. Same with the Seahawks, the Falcons, the Rams. Like right now, the crash course is Eagles- Eagles Lions. Like that's who you'd expect to see in the NFC championship game. But all that said, if the Eagles lined up on a given day and they face, you know, if Kirk's hot one day, I mean, look, they lost to Kirk early this year. They gave Kirk the game, but they lost to Kirk cousins. So could you see a scenario where in the playoffs, the Falcons are in there and they have a matchup
Starting point is 00:13:05 at some point against, I mean, they're going to win the division, so it wouldn't be right out of the gate. But like if they played a second round playoff game somehow against the Eagles, could you see a scenario where the Falcons with the playmakers they have and Kirk beat them? Yes. Like there's nobody that you'd be truly shocked in the NFC if they lost a playoff game. Even the Lions, even the Eagles, as good as those two teams look, I would not be shocked.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But then again, you look at the standings in the NFC, and you're like, eh. Like, you look at the back half of it, and you're like, these wild card teams, like the Packers. Okay, so let's just say somehow the Eagles played the Packers in a playoff game. Packers could beat them. Packers are loaded with playmakers on the outside.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Did the Packers beat them last year in the playoffs? Was that them? No, the Tampa did last year. Oh, Tampa, yeah. But no, so you could get yourself into a situation. If you lined up and it's like, oh, hey, by the way, here's the Packers who are pretty good when they're healthy. They're really fucking good.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Could they beat the Eagles? Sure, they could, they have a much better vertical passing game. So they could, that's why nobody is, is a team that you're just like, wow, they're unbeatable. Like there's a lot of toss up type games in the NFC right now, but I would put the Eagles as a contender right now. I would amend my list, and I would put them on there. Chiefs, Lions, Eagles, and... Oh, the beer's kicking in. Chiefs, Ravens. Even though, the thing about the Ravens, though, do I truly trust them more in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like, they've not played well the last couple of weeks. So I'm pumped for next week. I think Eagles and Ravens is going to kind of reveal a lot. It could. About both of those teams. No, it very well could. No, it's. So if you look at the AFC, like switching gears here,
Starting point is 00:14:53 like we're starting to kind of see like the seven. Miami has a chance. The Colts, I give no chance. No, the Colts are done. So like really, you've kind of got your seven teams pretty set. Well, the only thing I think could happen, because I still don't buy Denver, is Miami, who's gotten hotter now that Tua stays healthy and they can keep rattling off wins.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I don't know what their schedule looks like. But I would assume that they still have games against the AFC East, and the AFC East outside of Buffalo is pretty shitty. So could they beat the Jets if they have to play them again? They could. The Dolphins have the big one next Thanksgiving, on Thanksgiving against the Packers at Lambeau. Correct.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Now, if they lose that, they're pretty much up the shit creek. But, dude, if they pull that one off, hell of a win. Yeah, then they have the Jets. All right. Then the Texans. Texans quite beatable at this point. Tua may throw for 500. Oh, God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 The 49ers, which who knows. Yeah. The Browns. And then they end against the Jets. Yeah, I don't think they're going to be able to find enough wins to get in. It's really just a matter of what Denver does. Like, Denver and the Chargers are the two most intriguing and they probably still have to play each other at least
Starting point is 00:16:07 once. Knock each other around. Actually, no, they're done. Yeah, one. So, the Broncos, they host the Browns next Monday night. Okay, that should be a win. They host the Colts. Alright. That should be a win too. They go to the Chargers. That's a huge, that's
Starting point is 00:16:23 a big one. They go to the Bengals. Okay, well,, that's a big one. They go to the Bengals. Okay, well the Bengals are dead. And then they host the Chiefs. Okay, and the game may not matter to the Chiefs either. But it may to the Broncos. So again, it's not like their schedule is like chock full of tough games. So the Broncos are probably getting in. That's what I'm saying. It feels like the
Starting point is 00:16:40 seven and the AFC are pretty much defined. And maybe some things can flip around, like maybe the Texans get to the three, maybe, but it doesn't even really matter at this point. You know what the Texans shouldn't be fucking worried about is, you know, if they're the three or the four, you need to be worried about figuring out how to win
Starting point is 00:16:55 goddamn football games and stop committing 11 penalties in a game and stop turning the ball over and being afraid. Like, they look like shit. Well, like, we had the excuses. Oh, Nico's been out. The offense has been off without Nico. Well, look like shit. Well, like we had the excuses. Oh, Nico's been out. The offense has been off without Nico.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Well, he's back. Oh, the defense, you know, well, Anderson's been out. Well,
Starting point is 00:17:10 he's back today. Like today you had zero excuse. And you sack the motherfucker eight times. How do you, how do you do that? How do you lose that game? It's, it's fucking,
Starting point is 00:17:20 it's fascinating. It is. So like at this point, like I need them to beat the fuck out of Jacksonville next week. Like none of this, It's fucking fascinating. Infuriating. It is. So at this point. I need them to beat the fuck out of Jacksonville next week. None of this, we're sweating in the fourth quarter. None of this, oh, it's kind of close. Beat those motherfuckers next week 40 to nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:37 But also look good. You can win a game by 10 and look really good and be disciplined and not commit the stupid penalties you continue to commit. Like if you look at them the last couple of weeks, the Texans have lost two games in the last few weeks, one in which they had five interceptions and a 16-point lead and lost. This week, eight sacks, a huge kickoff return that one play later resulted in a touchdown right out of the shoot today. They've been gigantic. They had a defensive touchdown and still lost. The Texans are actually, you know things are bad,
Starting point is 00:18:08 and this is what you get concerned about, when they're finding ways to lose. You know when they found ways to lose? 2010. 2010 was the year that they finished 6-10, and they just kept finding ways to lose, creative ways. The volleyball spike against the Jaguars remember that yeah that was a hail mary at the end of the game that they lost uh they would lose they lost an overtime
Starting point is 00:18:30 game that year i believe to the ravens on a pick six in overtime like they just kept finding creative different ways that was after they started two and oh uh and then they went on uh they were two i think they started two and oh that year no they started like three and two or four and two i think is what they started. And then they did that, and then eventually finished 6-10 and fell off a cliff. But they committed a bunch. What are you looking for? I know you want to do the Lions for next week, but my phone's about to die.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Oh, well, you can go plug them in, or we can look at some Lions here in a second. But anyway, so yeah, that's what I'm feeling though like on this one like they're just finding ways to lose games but it's also like CJ's not playing well he doesn't look like CJ he doesn't look like the dude he doesn't have the confidence like he looks like when he throws a pick like he looks like Eeyore no he looks broken like it's fascinating he looks broken but like you and I think a lot of people are kind of starting to turn on D'Amico as well. And I think some of the criticism is stuff that is legit and you have to listen to it. Yes, you're a rah-rah coach. Yes, the players love you. And yes, you're high-fiving dudes. And that's part of why we love you. It's fun to watch you being so into it. The problem I have with D'Amico right now is they're clearly just undisciplined. And that starts with coaching. When you commit 11 penalties and there's penalties that take touchdowns off the board late in games and stupid penalties that knock you back and set you up on a
Starting point is 00:19:55 first and 20 instead of a first and 10, like late in the game, shit like that, that's unacceptable. That is unacceptable. And when you watch this team play and the stupid things they do, that has to fall back on the coach. That has to reflect poorly on the coach. So, like, the Texans are nowhere. Like, if you want to go to the AFC side of things and look at the AFC standing and say who has a chance, like, I'll still say the Ravens. But, like, the more it goes on, you still have to see Lamar do it. Like, Lamar has to do it just like Josh Allen has to do it but until proven otherwise in the AFC it's Pat Mahomes and everybody else the bridesmaid Texans ain't close like there's no there's no way I could tell you in a playoff game whether
Starting point is 00:20:34 they're at home or on the road or wherever they're going to be at home for a playoff game if you want to tell me that the Texans are going to line up in a playoff game and are going to face Denver who again I don't buy Denver. I think you should beat Denver at home. But Denver has a legitimate NFL head coach, and he's turned a rookie into a pretty solid fucking player in Bo Nix. So, like, do I believe the Texans could line up in a playoff game today at home and beat a bunch of teams?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Sure. But do I believe they will? No. Because they're undisciplined and they're committing too many turnovers. The penalties are absurd. No. Like, I don't look at those teams that they could face and say they're undisciplined and they're committing too many turnovers. The penalties are absurd. No. I don't look at those teams that they could face and say they're going to beat them. My problem with the Texans, and I think we've said this on here
Starting point is 00:21:11 before, is what I fear happening is, okay, we're going to get all excited. Home playoff game. We'll be drunk one night and debate going as we tend to do. And it's going to be a repeat of that game, like the playoff game that we flew from Philly. The Chiefs, where they lost 30-0 and the opening kick was a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:21:29 By the time we sat down, they were losing, and then was it a shutout? They didn't even score that game. I don't think they scored. I believe they had J.J. Watt lined up to run the ball into the end zone, and he fumbled, I think, is what happened. That's what I fear is going to happen with the Texans this time. that's why I'm having a hard time even getting excited for Texans playoffs like like last year was fun because it was new awesome but like it was kind of surprise out of nowhere Texas are playing well but you also felt confident in the quarterback so for all the mistakes that
Starting point is 00:22:00 are happening and all the dumb mental mistakes that are costing the team like you like the problem we don't have is like six seven weeks ago I would have told you it's okay because CJ is here CJ is currently broken so like there's not even that confidence to fall back on yeah like last year was cool because like we thought like the Colts game was basically a playoff game you had a win to get in right yeah I never doubted they would win that then you played the Browns like all right we can beat the Browns. And they, like, annihilated the Browns. Even then, going to the Ravens, we're like, we got a chance. This year, we're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:22:33 We're going to get our asses kicked in the first round. Yeah. And, God, the concern is you have to play that back-to-back with the Ravens and the Chiefs. So they have the Jaguars next Sunday, which, again, I would like to see them just beat the ever-living hell out of the Jaguars. Of course. Then they have a bye. Then you've got Dolphins, Chiefs, and Ravens. Maybe Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:22:54 No, Dolphins, Chiefs, Ravens. That's tough. I mean, the Dolphins ain't easy, man. I mean, whew. God, I mean, they're going to win the division because nobody else wants it, because the Colts can't do anything. But like, they're going to win the division because nobody else wants it. Because the Colts can't do anything. But they've got it.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I'm with you. I think most people have kind of turned on them. We're looking at the potential for only two more wins this season. And that would get you to nine, right? No. How many wins do they have? That would get you to nine. Nine wins.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So they'd be nine and eight and get into the playoffs at nine and eight because the division's just horrible. But they could lose to the Dolphins, Ravens, and Chiefs. Okay, maybe you beat the Jaguars and Titans. Maybe. Maybe, yeah. But you're looking at seven wins. Or what did we say?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Nine wins. Nine wins. Yeah. Actually, that would get you to ten, I think. They have eight wins. They have seven. No shit. God damn.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I googled it really quick, but I'm 99.9% sure they have seven wins. Yikes. Let's see here. They have seven. So they're seven and five. So they could go two and five the rest of the way. Totally. And that would get them to nine and eight.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So they go two and three. Wait, two and three the rest of the way and get to 9-8. And people are turning. Look, Houston's not the kind of town where... They're lucky they got Beyonce for the halftime show at Christmas because those tickets would plummet. Yeah. I know Houston.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, Houston's not a passionate town as it relates to it. I love Houston, but I know how this works. Is that Jaguars game that's in Jacksonville next week or is it in Texas? Houston's not a passionate town as it relates to it. I love Houston, but I know how this works. Like, okay. Is that Jaguars game that's in Jacksonville next week or is it in Texas? I think it's in Jacksonville. If it was in Houston next week, there'd be nobody there. No. Well, I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:24:40 They'd come eventually, but it'd be kind of half. The tickets would be a steal on StubHub. Yeah. Like, the thing that, dude, that Christmas game, the tickets would be cheap if it weren't for the fact they're playing the Ravens and Beyonce. And it's Beyonce. Because we went to a Christmas Eve game when they played the Bengals, and they won a game to get into the playoffs. Yep, that was fun. And, like, those tickets, I mean, we got in, so the tickets must not have been all that expensive. There were four of us, so we definitely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 So, like, the Texans are, like, look, Houston's not a passionate football city. It's not a passionate sports city. Let's be real. When the teams are good, people are into it. When they're not, they're not. I think people are starting to turn on D'Amico, not to the point where they're like, oh, we need a new coach. But people are really starting to ask questions of D'Amico and the way they do things and why these penalties keep happening, why mental mistakes cost them games. Like there's no doubt that like, look, you turn the ball over a couple
Starting point is 00:25:30 times that happens. I get it. Mental mistakes that they have committed and that have happened in this game, particularly today, cost them the game. If you don't commit a stupid illegal motion penalty, you score a touchdown and take the lead. If you don't commit a stupid illegal motion penalty you score a touchdown and take the lead if you don't commit a penalty after making up for those yards if you don't commit a penalty on first down and 10 from the 11 yard line on a pass play if you don't commit that penalty guess what you're you know you're in fine shape so you know it is what it is the mcdougals by the way we're out in full force at the these mcdougals came out in full force. I like when people talk about this where they're like,
Starting point is 00:26:08 oh, by the way, the Eagles took over the stadium in L.A. Every team takes over the stadium in L.A. L.A. gives zero fucks about football. No matter who plays there, they're going to fill up the stadium with the opposition. I know this because I see the St. Louis people talking about it all the time because they're bitter on Twitter because they lost their football team so they're like oh my god look at all the road fans taking over in la like cool uh but yeah nashville too nashville's
Starting point is 00:26:35 another one that just is like a tourist destination oh totally 100 especially once they get this new stadium and they price out all their own people so i mean right now the the titans play in an erector set of a stadium it's a mid-90s looks like a shitty mid-90s uh outlet mall so uh with the color scheme and the type of setup so um yeah once they get that new stadium and price their own fans out it's gonna be nothing but road people like when you go to vegas for instance like people love to go to vegas and it just so happens to be like hey my team is playing the raiders this year i'm gonna go because it's vegas same thing for nashville so uh all right let's uh play a couple of commercials then we'll uh look at the spreads for uh next week i'll predict the spreads for the games next week i will also need another beer. I will get you another beer. So while we play this commercial,
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Starting point is 00:29:36 Now, tell me these matchups and I will tell you what the lines will be. Jilly, go. All right. Well, do you know tomorrow's Monday nights? I actually don't. I haven't looked because I just don't bet spreads that often, so I don't pay attention. I look at passing yards.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So that would be the Robins taking on the Chargers. I am going to say that it is a Ravens 5.5. 2.5. Oh, wow. How about that? That would be a good one tomorrow. Oh, I'm looking to say that it is a Ravens five and a half. Two and a half. Oh, wow. How about that? That'll be a good one tomorrow. Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Passing yards.
Starting point is 00:30:11 My man Herbert. My man Lamar. I mean, my dude just throws a ton now. So passing yards. Going to get some good bets in for that tomorrow. By the way, I don't understand how Matt Stafford can't throw for 15 fucking yards a quarter. Cost me the damn 15 yards for both quarterbacks every quarter because the asshole couldn't throw for 15 goddamn yards in the second quarter
Starting point is 00:30:33 when they had three consecutive three and outs on nine goddamn plays. Couldn't throw for 15 yards. But then again, it's also possible that maybe the Eagles didn't throw for 15 in the fourth quarter. Either way, it still stands that Matt Stafford's dumbass couldn't throw for 15 fucking yards. Just last week you said he's my favorite quarterback to watch. I lied to myself. He's no one's favorite quarterback. He's a schmuck. All right, anyway, what else we got?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Oh, wow. Let's see. What is this? Brandon Graham emotional in the locker room postgame saying he is done for the season after tearing his try. Oh, shit. That's big. If I had to go out like this, I gave it everything I got.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh, that's fucking rough. Oh, that's... And that's... He's a good dude, man. He is. He's a good dude. Like, he's been there. I think he's played there longer than anybody.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I think he did some player shows with you, like those remotes we used to do on Fridays. And that was back when he had just gotten there. He was always so nice. He's a very nice guy. And, oh, that's brutal. I feel bad for the guy, man. That's awful.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But, fuck, that blows. All right, let's look at some matchups here. So, of course, we have the Thanksgiving games. Bears at Lions, 1130 a.m. Thursday. Bears at Lions. The Lions are going to be favored by eight and a half. Ten and a half. God damn.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Go get them, Lions. Here's the thing. I keep reading on Twitter, and again, I don't trust anything on Twitter fully, but people are saying that Ditka is being moved to hospice. Which means Ditka's going to die. The coach is about to die. So if he dies before Thanksgiving, and I know this sounds morbid, the Bears will have his powers.
Starting point is 00:32:13 They can have all the powers of Ditka they want, but it ain't going to stop them against the Lions. They're not stopping the Lions in Detroit. All the players, they could have Ditka can die, fucking go down the list get fucking uh walter payton could come back to life and die again and it ain't gonna help them who died uh dick butkus remember when dick butkus died and then they beat somebody they had no business beating i don't but i'm last year well and well remember when the... Hold on. Dick Butkus. When did you die? He died October 5th of 2023.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Who did the Bears play that weekend? All right, so now we need the Bears schedule from last year. So we need the Bears 2023 schedule. Let's see who they played, and if you are correct, that they beat somebody they shouldn't have beaten. I'm fairly certain I'm right. So what's the date they played the panthers so so what did he die on october 5th yeah all right then october beat the ever-living shit out
Starting point is 00:33:11 of the panthers 36 points for the bears well there you go so so your points valid kind of well it's like this remember when the uh the texans played the raiders i do whenever uh al davis died like on sat, then they come back Sunday. Matt Schaub throws an interception to end the game. The Raiders had 10 players on the field and still got an interception to end the game. Anyway, all I'm saying is you should be on Ditka Watch if this is true. Ditka Watch, everybody. Be on Ditka Watch.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Certainly to cover the spread, if nothing else. What else we got? Also on Thanksgiving, we get that big Tommy DeVito-Cooper Rush matchup. Giants at Cowboys at 3.30. Cowboys are going to be favored by 3.5. Four. Okay, close enough. And then to round out Thanksgiving, this should be a fun one.
Starting point is 00:34:00 The Dolphins at the Packers. Packers, five. Three and a half. Okay, there we go. Let's sling the ball around the Packers. Packers 5. 3.5. Okay, there we go. Let's sling the ball around the yard that night, kiddos. A little Thanksgiving night throw fest. Let's fucking go. And you'll be able to live bet it because we'll be in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Hot damn it. Then we have the Black Friday game, which is at 2 in the afternoon. The Raiders at the Chiefs. The Chiefs are going to be favored by 11.5. 13, because remember, Gardner's, I think, done those. That's what I was saying, yeah. Yep. All right, what's next?
Starting point is 00:34:35 What is that? Is that Amazon Prime, right? Prime is Black Friday? I guess, yeah. Al Michaels is going to be thrilled. I'm sure he'll have a great time. He's going to be pumped. That takes us to Sunday, December 1st.
Starting point is 00:34:47 The Texans at the Jaguars. The Texans will be favored by five. Six. Okay. Then we have the Seahawks at the Jets. The Seahawks, two. One and a half. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Then we've got the Titans at the Commanders. The Commanders will be favored by six and a half. Six, that's close. There you go. We've got the Cardinals at the Vikings. The Vikings will be favored by four and a half. Four. Okay. Chargers. Chargers are at the Falcons. Chargers at the Falcons. I am going to say Chargers two and a half. One and a half. Okay. close enough. The Colts are at the Patriots. The Colts
Starting point is 00:35:46 are at the Patriots. The Colts are at the Patriots. Oh boy. Colts minus two. Two and a half. Alright. The Steelers are at the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh boy. Steelers at bangles steelers at bangles i'm gonna go with because like you would think it'd be more because the the steelers have a much better record obviously i'm going to say steel i'm gonna say steelers one and a. The Bengals are two and a half point favorites. See, that's what I was saying. Like, you'd be... Yeah, okay, I get it. The Buccaneers and the Panthers kick off the afternoon games. I'm going to say the Buccaneers are favored by... That's at the Panthers?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Mm-hmm. Five and a half. Six. Okay, close enough. We've got the rams at the saints i'm gonna say saints minus three nope the rams are a two-point favorite wow damn then we get this exciting one the eagles at the ras. Boy. I'm going to say Ravens
Starting point is 00:37:08 one and a half. Two and a half. Sunday night next week is 49ers at Bills. Don't know what's going on with Brock Purdy. So that certainly impacts it. Bills minus six and a half. Bingo. How about
Starting point is 00:37:24 that? And then next Monday get the Browns at the Broncos. Broncos minus six. Five and a half. There we go. It's frightening how close you are to these. Yeah. I don't know. I have a gift.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I don't know how to explain it. I just, it's just, I don't know. But here we are. Another week of football. Boy, this could be a great one because we get Thursday, Friday, Sunday, tons of college football on Friday, tons of college football on Saturday. Regular season's over. College football's done.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We haven't even talked about the fact that college football was a fucking mess this weekend, an epic, awesome SEC meltdown. Everybody melting down. Everybody losing mess. Like, first of all, I'm glad that Alabama lost and scored three points against Oklahoma, so they're out. But it disgusts me that LSU got mangled by that team. Got destroyed by them.
Starting point is 00:38:18 All while we watch Oklahoma hold Jalen Milrow to three points. That pisses. I'm glad they lost. I'm pissed that LSU got just pecker slapped by that motherfucker. All I needed was a Jalen Milrow touchdown, which is usually automatic. Not this week because there were no touchdowns. That cost me a parlay yesterday. Man, there were some epic.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Like, oh, God, the fact that Ole Miss and Alabama both blew opportunities to pretty much lock themselves in, that makes me happy. Hey, if any of our Tennessee people are listening, Brad Hall, good for your Vols. This really helps them. Their chances of getting into the 12 team play. I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:52 look at where they sit. There's no way they can make it to the conference championship game. So good. That's what I'm saying. So where they sit now is they have to just beat Vandy, which again, not a layup by the way, but you play Vandy,
Starting point is 00:39:04 you beat them and then you just sit back and wait to see where a layup, by the way, but you play Vandy, you beat them, and then you just sit back and wait to see where the ball falls for you. Like, not a bad spot to be in because, like, there is a negative to playing in the conference championship because it's another game you could lose. The positive is if you go in and win it, you're locked in. You're guaranteed a spot. So the way it's shaping up right now, though, it's either going to be A&M or Texas versus Georgia because Georgia's in no matter what Georgia's in the SEC championship game
Starting point is 00:39:30 so what you're looking at now is you've got either A&M or Texas because if Texas A&M ends up beating wait no I take that back it's wait A&M is out right because A&M's lost if A&M is out, right? Because A&M's lost. No, if A&M beats Texas, they're going to play Georgia. No shit, huh? So it still comes down to one game, one shot at it for them, even though they blew this game. Which I kind of love, because this rivalry is kind of back. This will be fun. And we don't know if it's going to be Quinn Ewers or if it's going to be Arch, because Quinn Ewers has an injury.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So to my point about Tennessee, right, like looking at the hypothetical bracket from last week, which again means nothing, I know. Yeah. But in this bracket last week, you had Alabama. You lost. You had BYU. You lost.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You had Ole Miss. You lost. You had Indiana. You lost. And also let us not forget Colorado, even though Colorado was more than likely not going to be an at-large, Colorado was in position to get into the Big 12 championship game, and they shit the bed in a major way against Kansas. So a lot of interesting losses.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Like, I dig this. I dig the fact that, like, people at LSU are all pissed. They're like, LSU shouldn't be nine and three every year they should be better sure but even like 10 and two now is going to almost guarantee if you're an SEC team that goes 10 and two most years you're going to have a more a more than legitimate shot at getting into this thing every year so like it's a different world this is not a world where if you don't go 11 and one 12 and oh, you're done. Like that's good.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like season particularly is very, very interesting because there's not like one dominant team. Like I feel like in the past, like however many years there's always been like that one team, like, you know, it's just going to fucking kill everybody. There's not, that doesn't exist because it's probably going to be Ohio state and Oregon and the big 10 championship. And I feel like Ohio state's probably going to beat Oregon because they're pissed from the last time. So that'll knock Oregon out of the one.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yep. They won't have that. No, I think Oregon's going to beat them. You do? Yes. Even after the last one? Yeah. I mean, look, look, just because Ohio State like lost in a shitty way, they still lost.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Unless Michigan really shocks the world and stuns like it just beats Ohio State this weekend that'd be fun then they would not be in the Big Ten championship that'd be fun we forgot about Indiana who also gagged this week but I mean that was obvious that that was going to happen they got mangled Indiana I said they were one of my four in this bracket that lost yeah but I'm just saying that they were like those bastards like like you're trying to prove yourself to the world, whether it's fair or not. The one game you play against anybody worth a shit, you lose. Our Penn State friends, if we have any McDougals who are Penn State people, they're sitting pretty pretty, too. Yeah, they're not in horrible shape.
Starting point is 00:42:15 As of, like, last week, they were hosting Georgia in a home playoff game. Oh. But, I mean, Georgia could win the SEC. None of this matters because Georgia still has to play the conference championship game. So it's going to completely change a lot of shit. It's fun, though. It is. But I don't need to get into great breakdowns of the damn college football playoff.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That doesn't even matter at this point. But last week of the college season, NFL going strong, fun things happening. All right. Now let's get the hell out of here and drink some more beer.

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