The Josh Innes Show - Follow Up: Crappy Sports Fans

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

We have a little more information on the dude who made the Diamondbacks player cry. Once again, I really, really struggle to believe this guy put forth the effort to study the life story of this random D-Backs player before going to the ballpark. People lack the ability to think critically. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So follow up to the story from yesterday about the White Sox fan who got banned from White Sox games, because he heckled could tell Marte allegedly about his dead mom and then like the manager heard it and the manager went off on the guy and then Marte cried on the field about it and it became this huge story where everybody rides in on their white horse to tell you how bad fans are and how terrible everybody is and that this guy is horrible been banned from every stadium like indefinitely. He's just banned right and I still don't know what the guy said. That's my problem with this story right like we talked about it yesterday, but you've got a guy who was heckling a baseball player which everybody has done or every stadium has people who've done it is heckling a baseball player right and the baseball player, which everybody has done, or every stadium has people who've done it is heckling a baseball player, right? And the baseball player cries about it. The manager gets

upset about it, they get the guy kicked out, and then the guy is now never going to be allowed to a baseball game again. Now we've seen video of this guy, and it makes it easy for people to really dislike him and think he's a scumbag because he's a very kind of waspy looking white dude. I think he's like in his early 20s, kind of a douchey looking guy, almost like a popped collary type of guy. You know what it's kind of like? It's like when the world convinced you that that one white kid was like talking shit to the Native American dude and they kept showing you that very short video clip of it almost looking like the white dude was

mocking the Native American guy and like it just became easy for everyone to be like, fuck that guy, that white piece of shit. Like it was kind of like that. That's what this video is like. But there's a video, first off, there's a video of the manager yelling, his dad, his mom died. Like it was so weird. There's no context to it. There's no like what led to it

but there's like the manager yelling at the dude in the stands letting you know that the guy's mom had died as if anybody would know this guy's mom died and then there's another video of like security in the stands talking to this guy and You try and you try to make out what the guy is saying that he said a lot of people are you try to make out what the guy is saying that he said, a lot of people are speculating that based on lip reading, he goes like he said, I said that his mom gets the pipe is what people are speculating he said. So it's right up there with whenever Glamour Shots by Deb came to the dynamite household and was selling boondoggle keychains and he's like, I'm trying to raise money for college

and Kip is in the back and goes trying to raise money for college and Kip is in the back and goes, your mom goes to college and then she gets all upset and runs away. Like the vibe I'm getting is that basically this douchey fratty looking guy, this waspy looking guy, basically like your mom Tim and it became a federal case. Let's say play a couple commercials and we'll continue. This episode is brought to you by Dazon. For the first time ever, the 32 best soccer clubs from across the world are coming together to decide who the undisputed champions of the

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Visit your local Chevrolet dealer for details. So that's the vibe I'm getting here. Because no one can tell you specifically what this guy said. No one has offered that up. It's just, did you know that this guy's mom died eight years ago in a car crash? And to use that kind of material to talk shit about a player is just terrible. And then you go to Reddit and everybody's clutching their pearls letting you know that oh, not all White Sox fans are like this and it's good that this guy's banned I can't believe that we talk this kind of shit about people

and like have some class this guy's mom died and all this shit you hear the story and again I'm sorry the guy's mom died that's unfortunate that she died in a car accident happened eight years ago but like nobody uses critical thinking right we never hear people like we just like people read something on the internet and they wanna be the first to get there to let you know that they're a good person. So the second you read a story like this, instead of going, most people read this story and go,

instead of saying what you should say, which is, okay, what did he say? That should be your first question. The first thing you ask should be, alright, what did he say? But people don't do that. They just assume that this guy said something horrible and vile. They probably don't even read the story They just read the headline that the guy is shouting shit about the guy's dead mom assume it's true Which is another huge mistake you make Assuming that anything that's put on the internet by any outlet ESPN Fox all the way down to like low-end blogs

Believing that anything that you see in there is the truth is your first mistake internet by any outlet, ESPN, Fox, all the way down to like low end blogs, believing that anything that you see in there is the truth is your first mistake. Maybe that's where I am a dickhead, but I don't believe anything I read. Especially stories like this that are just easy for people to ride in on their white horse and pearl clutch and where the outcome really doesn't matter. It's inconsequential, it's not life altering for most people, so you're allowed to just kind of go out there and say shit about this guy and just assume it's true. But the first thing I asked not having seen this guy, having no information about him,

my first thought was, okay, what did he say that was so bad that let a grown man on a baseball field to break down into tears and lead his manager to urge that this guy get tossed out of the ballpark? What did he say? And I cannot find that piece of information anywhere. It doesn't exist. But I've seen video of the manager saying, Oh, the guy's mom is dead. And the player crying. And I've seen the video of the guy in the stands being talked to by security. And saying like basically kind of smirking like

like let's operate in this world so let's assume that you believe that this guy deliberately talk shit about a guy knowing that his mom was dead so how would that have to play out so let's look at the setting first the setting is a Chicago White Sox game the Chicago White Sox are one of the worst teams in baseball and have been for a handful of years. They're awful, right? They're playing the Diamondbacks. It's not a rival. It's not anybody you'd really give a shit about. It's just the Diamondbacks and the White Sox. That's the setting. There's really nobody at this

game. No one gives a shit. It's not very important. It's obsolete. It's trivial. Alright, so the setting. Now let's look at the stakes. What are the stakes in this ball game? Again, not much. The White Sox are going nowhere fast. Who gives a shit what happens with the Diamondbacks? They're not a rivalry. It's not the Cubs and the White Sox. It's not the Cubs and a team in their division. It's a team from the West in the National League that no one cares about. So it's not like this guy's going to be super lubed up and ready to fight over this game. Plus it's the White Sox and no one's lubed up over the White Sox.

They've been terrible for years now. No one gives a shit. So like that's the stakes. So the setting is a pretty much empty ballpark. The stakes are meaningless because both of these teams have no beef with each other. So I set that up to tell you this. Like it is possible that someone like if it's the Cowboys and the Eagles, like that kind of rivalry, and it's in Philadelphia, could there be a

scenario where a guy spends his week scouring the internet for details on how to get into the minds of certain Cowboys players find some bad shit about them, find some information that they could use in their heckling of these guys to really get into their fucking head and impact the outcome of the game in that instance i'd say it's possible probably unlikely but it's at least possible right like you could see in that kind of rivalry in football maybe do you want me to believe because that's part of the argument is this guy knowingly said something bad about a guy's dead mom, right?

You want me to believe that this gentleman woke up on Tuesday or whatever this happened, Monday, Tuesday, whatever. This guy woke up and he's like, hey, I got tickets to the White Sox and the Diamondbacks tonight. And those dirty, stinking, low-life motherfucking Diamondbacks, ooh, I got it for them tonight. This is a big game for us tonight and I'm sitting around the dugout and I'm gonna make life a living hell. And then he just goes down and starts searching details

about every player so he can look to get into their minds and find what makes them tick and what makes them implode. And he gets to Cattell Martey and he's like, all right, Martey, mid-'m Martin mid 30s blah blah blah mom died in car accident in 2017. Oh, bingo. I got you now motherfucker. And then goes to the ball game and starts yelling specific things that are pointed directly at this guy about his dead guy's dead mom. Now, the which is totally bogus

it didn't happen. But what happens is you say this and people who are just numbskulls because that's the kind of people we're raising now that have no critical thinking skills and all that. You get these people who will come back at you and say, you know, maybe that wasn't his intention, but families are off limits. Are they? Like there's a difference between like if he gets out there and he knows and then he says, I hope your mom dies in a car crash again, that's off

limits and not nice. If a guy is in the ball game and says, hey, your mom goes to college, like is that really talking about someone's family? It's a general your mama joke. Your mama so fat she got in an elevator thought it was a mobile home like that kind of shit. You don't even know the person's mom. It's just general your mama shit. It's general trash talk right now. If you want to argue a fan should be saying shit you can I mean they're going to so

whatever, but I just don't buy that this dude went to the ballgame did show prep for it you want me to believe that this guy sat there like hours before the game and he's like what could I say to get into Katel Marte said because it's a huge point in this extremely important baseball game that I must find information everything I can to get into this guy's head because we cannot afford to have Cattell Marte get a base hit right here. Or maybe he bet on the guy to not get a hit. Now that would be more believable. If you wanted me

to believe that a guy bet on a dude to like have no hits and he was trying to find a way to get into this guy's head so he started talking shit about a guy's dead mom, then I could maybe believe. But I don't believe that was the instance here. I believe what you had here is a guy doing general your mama type shit. Like I said this yesterday. Who knows that this guy's mom died eight years ago in a car crash? Like maybe if you're in Arizona, you know that because they're like certain instances of people's family members issues

that you know, because you're in that town like I'm in Saint Louis. 9 out of 10 people may not know that Steven Piscotti who I don't even think plays in the league anymore, but Steven Piscotti was an up-and-comer with the Cardinals had some decent years with Saint Louis as a young dude. His mom has ALS. That's why he wanted to go play in Oakland, I believe because his mom has Lou Gehrig's disease. Like you would know that in Saint Louis because it's a story in St. Louis. It's not really a

story anywhere else. It's the kind of thing that would pop up on like an ESPN Sunday morning when they're doing like you know an E-60 emotional piece, but not everybody's going to see that or know it, right? So you can't just assume that everybody in the 50 states and around the world know that Steven Piscotti's mom has Lou Gehrig's disease, right? Just like you can't assume that people outside of Arizona know that this guy's mom died in a car accident. But nobody thinks this way. Like there's like it annoys me the

lack of critical thinking that we encounter from people on a day in day out basis. There's just no critical thinking. People are just followers and they run to the internet. This is terrible. And then like, like if you question it, you're the asshole. Like you just have to assume that this person who now is banned from baseball games forever, apparently in perpetuity, this guy is like banned forever. And we're led to believe and just led to assume

that this guy's a scumbag who deliberately went to a meaningless baseball game did some show prep on a guy's dead mom and yelled insults that were directed pointedly at the guy about the guy's dead mom. What it is, it's kind of the result made the act worse. So because this guy cries, which awkward, but this guy is on the mat, he's out in the field crying, right? It's kind of like in basketball. It's like this or any sport where there's like a violent collision and there's an option to call it a higher penalty than it is. And then you watch the replay and you're like, it probably wasn't a dirty play, but the guy rolled his ankle and is now out of the game. So it must have been a dirty place. So you

have to call it a flagrant, you know, like, like a guy gets hit hard in the pocket, right? Like a quarterback gets drilled and they throw the flag for roughing the passer and you look at the video and you're like he didn't even hit his head it's not even close but the guy leaves the game because like just he got tackled hard and his ribs hurt and they throw it and they're like well he got hurt so it must have been dirty and you're like well not really it just kind of that's the result of the play but the play itself was not dirty the guy crying on the baseball field over this is kind of one of those scenarios where you're like, the result of it made the action look worse. And real talk the guys have waspy looking white guy and people love to talk shit

about waspy looking white guys being assholes. Like the comments I was seeing on Reddit. Oh, not shocking. Look at that guy just looks like a racist piece of shit. Like okay, whatever. You know, it's just like, I don't know, I think it's, the whole thing is stupid and now this guy's banned from ballparks because he probably said like your mom is so fat or if you read his lips it looked like he said like your mom gets the pipe or something like that.

And please don't come to me with the argument of leave people's families out of it. It's a general fucking insult. He doesn't know the guy's mom. Now, if your mom is truly a fat lard and someone knows your mom's a fat lard and starts talking about your mom being a fat lard, then that's insulting. Your mom is so blank or your mom is so dumb or your mom goes to college or any of this other shit, it's just general shit talking. And oh, by the way, when I read the things about like, oh, that's so typical white guy at the ball game. Trust me, when I was in high school, there would be adult men. There was just two

black guys that would sit at these games all the time and just talk shit about dudes playing high school basketball. Adult men. So like, it's not a specific race of people that talk more shit at sporting events now granted I don't see it. I will say this I See far more black white dudes that are hammered at sporting events talking shit and starting fights Then I see black dudes doing it and Hispanic dudes like at football games in certain areas See a lot of drunk Hispanic dudes fighting each other a lot of drunk white dudes fighting each other

Black dudes don't fight at stadiums. That's not really a black dude thing. Hispanics and whites will go at it at a sporting event. Black dudes, I mean, I'm not saying that doesn't happen. I'm saying you just don't see it happen as much. So like, I get it. There are certain you can take a crime, pick the race, whatever. But I just don't believe that this guy set out when he when he put on his popped collar

shirt today or two days ago and went to rate field was like watch this shit I'm about to pull. I know this guy's mom is dead and it's going to get to him when I say it. Like I just it's stupid and I just wish people would use their critical thinking but people lack critical thinking because they're all part of the minions. They're all part of the masses. They're sheep. Anyway, more to come.