The Josh Innes Show - Forgiveness

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Admittedly, I didn't watch the entire Charlie Kirk funeral. I saw some clips. First off, Lee Greenwood sang "God Bless The USA" while Trump stood on stage and admired him. There were fireworks and everything. It was like a KISS concert. Second, Kirk's wife said she forgives the shooter. This is a concept I cannot understand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, everybody. Hello. It's all up in us once again. Hello. Appreciate you all for listening. Tell your friends about it. Spread the word. And let's help build this thing up. I truly do appreciate you guys, though. You are wonderful. You're a great fabulous. You're great people. You're amazing people. Speaking of Trump, so this Charlie Kirk funeral, I guess was yesterday. And the Trumpster made an appearance. And I didn't watch this thing I saw this video online I mean I didn't even know what was happening yesterday It's just not something that impacts my life enough to watch it Like sorry I just Just not something that is You know like I didn't even know who Charlie Kirk really was

Until he died you know So I mean I knew of him I had heard of him but I didn't really know any You know of the details about the guy Because I just don't follow it But so there was this funeral yesterday And it was like a concert Let me play some audio for you

after these words. So last night, I'm sitting there and Jillie is on Twitter, and she shows me the videos of this Charlie Kirk funeral. And Trump comes out, and he is being serenated. God bless the USA by Lee Greenwood himself. Mr. Lee Greenwood himself, which is probably the millionth time this has happened. but Trump is being serenated at this Charlie Kirk funeral to God bless the USA. If tomorrow all the things were gone, I'd work for all my life.

Trump is out there right now. Pyro-technics everywhere. It's like a kiss show. Pyrotechnics. You'd think he's about to sing Love Gun. And I'm down to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And you would think that may be the men who died who gave that fright of me. And I gladly stand up next to you if it's been her still to be. And you would think that maybe he's done after one verse.

And it's like, all, everybody, have a seat. It's time to talk more about Charlie Kirk. Here's the president. No. He does the whole fucking song. He does the entire God bless the USA. And Trump's waving to people. And eventually it gets to a point at the end of it where, like, they're just staring at each other.

Like, it looks like it's Barbara Streis and a Neil Diamond about to do, you don't bring me flowers. Like, you were waiting for Trump to grab a microphone and start singing a verse of it and then slowly walking. up to each other and eventually meeting face to face. That's what it looked like. And of course, that's like Trump's official theme song, that and the YMCA. But, hey, good for Lee Greenwood, though. You know, if you think about it, like, Lee Greenwood made the perfect move, which is write a song that is so patriotic that, like, you can't ignore it.

Like, it is just a straight up, 100% patriotic. I love this fucking country song. It's not a born in the USA, which has a. name and a chorus that would make you think it's a positive America song. No, it is a legit positive America song. And I will tell you this, as hokey as that song is, I dig it. And it's super hokey. And depending on the day, I'll make fun of it. But man, you get me like on the 4th of July. And I've had a couple of beers. I say a couple of beers, like 10 beers, and I'm floating around in my dad's pool. And the, and the Bluetooth starts playing a little, you know, courtesy

the red, white, and blue. A little fucking God bless the USA. Fucking A-right, I'm ready to run through a wall for America. I bet China doesn't have a song like that. There's not a good song from South Korea, North Korea, China, fucking Russia. You guys don't have a song like that. So just remember, everybody, all your little liberal buddies tell you about a shitty America is, just remember that we have fucking Lee Greenwood,

and he's here to sing about how great America is. And we did have Toby Keith. to sing about how great America is. These other countries don't have that because everybody's trying to come here. Ain't nobody like, I can't wave to move to fucking China or Japan or Korea or fucking Russia or anywhere else. They're waiting to come here.

That's why we have to put up goddamn borders to stop people for coming here because everybody wants to come here. Oh, but this country sucks. Just ask your blue-haired liberal fucking friend that celebrated Charlie Kirk getting assassinated. Talk to that friend of yours and they'll tell you how shitty America is. But anyway. So Lee Greenwood with a three-minute performance at this funeral.

This funeral, like, it's weird because I don't really know how you're supposed to handle a public funeral because I guess you're supposed to be like sad. But this was not a sad situation. This is like a fucking party. This is like a black funeral. It was like a good time. Like, you're waiting for him to start doing the fucking electric slide, like the cha-cha slide. It was like just like a, like they're all celebrating. And then it was like a political rally because Trump can't help himself.

So he gets up there and starts doing the. the Trump rally shit. Place is sold out. It's a football stadium that's sold out. Like Charlie Kirk's funeral was like the Erez tour. Play some more. This is Charlie Kirk's widow talking about her forgiveness for this guy.

My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. Like a long-ass standing ovations It's like a performance That young man That young man

On the cross our savior said Said Ow! father forgive them for they not know what they do that man that young man i forgive him i don't believe that i struggle to believe that i don't buy it i can't i cannot that some guy, some wacko, shoot your husband. You're left without a husband. Your young daughter doesn't have a dad now.

And you're just like, I forgive this guy. I just, I cannot fathom that. I cannot fathom having that kind of mindset. And maybe I'm just a horrible human. Maybe I am. But I choose to believe that 99% of people are going to be like, yeah, fuck this dude. And of course, that's probably just a public thing. Behind closed doors, she probably fucking hates this.

I mean, she clearly hates the guy. But like, behind closed doors, like, I wonder if she's, like, I wonder if she's she actually forgives this guy or if it's like, hey, I'm in the public, I'm in a funeral thing. I forget. Like, people do not, like, how do you, I, look, I'm not trying to rip on this chick at all. Our husband's dead. Like, I'm not ripping on her. I'm ripping on the concept of, like, forgiving people who do horrible things to you.

Like, it's one thing, like, to eventually forgive someone that you had a bad relationship with. Like, like, like, at WIP, I don't hate anybody from WIP. Like, I don't, like, I'm not saying I forgive them. They forgive me, whatever. but, like, me and Spike had a bad situation. Like, I have nothing against Spike. I bury that. Like, I don't care, right?

But that's, you know, getting fired from a job. I can't fathom that someone, you'd forgive someone who in cold blood kills your husband, leaves you without a husband and your kid without a father. And for what? Because he disagreed with what you said politically? Like, I can see, like, maybe you forgive someone who accidentally. killed your husband in like a car accident. It was just a freak accident and something went wrong or like the guy has a heart attack while driving and teabones your husband and he dies.

Like that I can see like, look, you didn't do it on purpose. Like I understand shit happens. But in the same way that I ain't going to forgive somebody who kills someone that I know drunk driving, I'm not going to forgive someone who pulls out a gun and shoots my husband in the neck and causes him to die. I don't know. I mean, I get, and I'm not a really religious person or anything like that. So it's not really like, like I've never thought of things in that way. So I don't look at things like, oh, I forgive this person or Jesus said this. I'm not a religious person.

I never have been. I'm not against people who are religious. I am just not a religious person. But I just cannot fathom that this person legitimately is like, you know what? I forgive you. Like, I can't. and maybe she's just a better person than I am. Maybe she does legitimately forgive him.

And I'm not trying to rip her by any means. I'm just looking at the concept of forgiving people. And it's one thing again to forgive somebody for something super petty or someone talks some shit about you one day. And now you, you know, after years go by, you bury the hatch and you're like, hey, I forgive you for all this shit. You forgive me. Whatever.

If somebody shot my husband dead, I would not forgive them. You have ruined my life. you have taken my life away from me. My daughter does not have a kid or a dad anymore. She didn't know when dad's coming home because dad isn't coming home. And she's of that age where you don't understand that. This woman's going to have to go through everything in life. She got to eventually find a new husband.

And that new husband's going to have to understand the fact that he's never going to be as much to her as Charlie was. She has to live through all this stuff. You know, like, I don't know how you forgive someone for that. you know like my mom's husband Don died he had cancer and from everything I've been told from my mom like the hospital and everybody handled this thing so terribly from the jump and that's not to say it would have saved his life but like she told me a lot of the details about what was going on with the medical part of it and it's terrible I imagine my mom will not be forgiving the fucking hospital in Zachary Louisiana anytime soon if I had to guess so that's why I I can't fathom somebody whose husband gets shot in the neck and dies that you can legitimately say, you know what, I forgive you. I can't fathom that. I can't operate in that world.

But maybe she's just a better person than I am. But I couldn't do it. Look, I struggle to forgive people for like, I can't forgive people for shit. They didn't even do to me. Like, I'm a pissed off person. There are people like radio people I see on Twitter and on social media. media that do shit that I just don't get, that I'm like, this isn't good, and I hate them, and I think they do hacky, lazy shit.

And I can't forgive them for that. I don't even know them. I just see their shit and I get anywhere. There are people I listen to on the radio here in Detroit that I think are terrible on the sports radio station. I cannot forgive them for being bad at radio. Do you think I could forgive someone for shooting a family member of mine in the neck and killing them?

But apparently she does, so rock on. More to come.