The Josh Innes Show - Hazing and other Musings

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Pat Fitzgerald got the Michigan State job. He was fired at Northwestern over a hazing scandal. Let's read some of the details of this scandal. Hazing is really dumb. Learn more about your ad choice...s. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 that I didn't get to on the radio show today and some maybe I did so let's get into that I don't have the story in front of me because I handed the paper to James but we did talk about the the Pat Fitzgerald hazing stuff that happened at Northwestern and I read some of the details on it because I hadn't really read the story because who really cares about hazing at Northwestern but Pat Fitzgerald got whacked because of that and then he sued and then won for wrongful termination but there was one where they would like have guys go into the showers together and like well they would this wasn't a shower one but they would dry hump each other in the dark they would like go in and dry hump dudes with the lights out and then one was like
Starting point is 00:01:41 they would make dudes get naked and do a center quarterback exchange and I'm like and I know we've talked about this a lot on here I'm just fascinated by the idea that we consider masculinity and like the way we bully people and shit into being part of a team is to do extremely homo erotic shit. Like, what is it with dudes who are like, you know what's going to be the ultimate? Let's make them do gay shit. And I'm like, well, if you're watching them do the gay shit, like, doesn't that just kind of make you gay too? Not that there's anything wrong with that. I want to be very clear. I'm not judging you if you are gay. I couldn't care less of you're gay. But like these super masculine dudes who are like, go do gay shit. And then like they watch it and like that's what they
Starting point is 00:02:23 consider to be team building. Aren't you just gay too? Like, like if you t-bag someone, well, first of all, play a couple commercials, and then we'll get into that. What a tease. Hey, if you teabag someone, but if you teabag someone, like, your scrotum is on the face of that person. How are you not gay, too? Like, I know that that's supposed to be the message. Like, I'm teabagging this guy's balls are got a ball's in his face.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He's getting teabagged. Like, but aren't you just gay in that case? Like, I don't know. I never understood that you. universe, that world. Like, I played basketball in high school, right? Not very well, but I played basketball. I was on the team for four years. And honestly, it's one of the things I'm most proud of and one of the things I most miss. If we're being completely honest, I loved being part of a team and I kind of love looking back on it that I wasn't that depended upon to be anything important
Starting point is 00:03:19 to the team. You know, like I liked that, you know, I was varsity for three years and I had my one little moment where I scored 19 points. And otherwise, I had no problem kind of looking up to the dudes who were better than me, right? Like, I had no problem with that. Like, I enjoyed that, right? Like, the dudes who were seniors when I was a freshman or, uh, were seniors when I was a sophomore. Like, I looked up to those guys and I looked up to the coaches and I
Starting point is 00:03:41 enjoyed being part of that world. But I played with like a let, like, our team was like 15 black dudes and like two white guys and my Mexican best friend Martin, right? That was who we were. Like, we didn't have a ton of white dudes on the team. Me, one of my best friends, Walt, and my best friend Martin.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You know, one of my, he's my Mount Rushmore of best friends, right? Still best friends to this day. He, me, and a couple other friends were just best friends. And that was our lives. And I loved it. I could not fathom a universe where any of these black dudes would be doing super gay shit to us as some sort of hazing. Like that world did not exist in my mind. There was no scenario where like a group of 11 black dudes are going to be like, well, let's watch these guys do super gay shit while we bite our lips and jerk off. Like, I couldn't imagine a world like that.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Now, I went out to try to play baseball. I played baseball up until I was about 15, until I was a freshman in high school. And we played basketball the whole year, and I was committed to playing basketball that whole year. Baseball comes around as the calendar turns and basketball is over. I go out for baseball. And I go out there for a couple of days of practice, and I think they were going to make me the first baseman of the JV team.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Maybe, I don't know. Looking back on it, I don't think I would have been able to hit, like, high school pitching right but whatever it is what it is you know i go out and i'm dealing with these guys and i realized that i just hated baseball players i thought they were the worst the biggest duches on the planet and they all like smelled and all spit tobacco and farted and it's thought it was gross like i just thought the whole scenario they're just white trash like our baseball team was just trashy dudes i lived in a white trash little town a little hillbilly louisiana town the baseball players were super white trashy and i just didn't like them it was just not my
Starting point is 00:05:28 vibe growing up I just wasn't into that so I quit and I was like I don't want to play and I ended up playing golf and I wasn't very good at that either but I lettered in golf so there's that what if my letterman jacket still exists apparently my dad still has a whole bunch of my shit up in the attic of his old house you want to hear a my dad move so I think my dad sold his house many years ago they sold the house I used to live in but he like worked a deal where the lady let him keep all of his shit in the attic or so shit like that I have no idea but anyway it's a very my dad thing but anyway So I just I never understood the concept of like making people do gay things as a sign to show that you're super masculine
Starting point is 00:06:06 Like hey guys it's team building what do we do to build the team? Well we're going to sit there and We're going to a tea bag dudes and then we're going to stick shit in their ass like how is that masculine at all? But anyway, we talked about that that was some of the shit that Northwestern was doing with some of these guys Like I look here's here's my thought if there's a situation where I have to do the like weird super sexual things to be part of a group, then I just don't want to be in your fucking group. I don't want to be in your fraternity. I don't want to be on your stupid team.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Like, I'm not going to do that shit. I'm also baffled when I hear stories that dudes who are like these big football players will allow themselves to get bullied by other big football players. Just tell them to fuck off. That's what I would do. You know what? And I get it. Like in that world you're trying to make the team and that's your life
Starting point is 00:06:52 and you don't want to run to the coaches and shit. But like, just punch them in the fucking balls. There's idea. I'm not going to go, fuck themselves. I'm not going to sit here and dry hump some guy so you'll make me part of your shitty team. And by the way, it's Northwestern. Who would do degrading shit to play football at Northwestern? What a sad world. Survey, Gen Z spends 5.1 hours a day on social media. I'm technically a millennial, so I spend three hours a day on social media. Gen Xers 1.8 and boomers 1.5. I don't believe
Starting point is 00:07:25 that. I believe boomers are on Facebook all fucking day. getting hoodwaked and scammed and, like, believing that the lead singer of like Oingo Boingo is in love with them. Like, I don't believe, like, for a second, you're not going to convince me that old people don't spend their entire day on Facebook. Yelling at the onion, getting scammed by soap opera stars, sending Amazon gift cards to fucking Victor from the young and the restless. Like, you're not going to convince me that these people are not on there all fucking day. The most popular is still Instagram and Facebook. See, that's where I spend all my time. Like today, I was sitting on the toilet, you know, whatever, I wasn't feeling well this morning.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I don't know why, but I'm sitting on the toilet. It's ice cold in the upstairs part of our house where I go to the bathroom. The heat doesn't really get up there, so it's like balls cold. You know, it's like, you know, like it's, I don't know, 30 degrees it felt like in there. I mean, it felt ridiculous. Like, it was super cold, right? So it's super cold, and I'm, like, sitting there on the can scrolling, just like doom scrolling through Instagram, and I love it. I just watch reels all day, real after reel after real.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That's how I spend my time as looking at reels. Like, I'm barely on Twitter, because I don't think I've been shadow banned or anything. I'm like, Tony Bruno, who's gone bat shit crazy and it's like, I've been banned. For whatever reason, the algorithm just sucks now on Twitter and, like, I'll tweet things, and no one will see them. And like, there's no way you have 30,000 followers and no one sees any of your shit. It's weird. Not a like it. But most of my time is spent on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And I just don't believe that. I think boomers are on social media just as much as Gen Zers. It's just on Facebook. Let's see here. London woman charged with walking the wrong way on train station escalator. You're going the wrong way. That kid is on the escalator again. three people were arrested in the Florida Keys for having sex in a Winn-Dixie parking lot.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Deputies were called to the grocery store lot around noon on Saturday and found three people engaged in sexual acts. Sharon Helen Ziplinsky, 45, which charged with unlawful exposure of sexual organs, that's a thing, disorderly intoxication and resisting without violence. This was her second arrest for similar public behavior in three months. Marshall Lowry, 43, was charged with committing unnatural and lascivious acts in disorderly intoxication. And Michael McDonald, Howard, 59 was charged with unlawful exposure of sexual organs and disorderly intoxication. They were super hammered and they were super sexual and horned out. And they were doing nasty things in a parked car. So that's the way you should do it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 In my mind, though, I wish there was no Howard on the Michael McDonald. It was just Michael McDonald getting laid in the car like. Yeah, public disorderly intoxication and unnatural acts, lascivious hacks. That wasn't very good. I'm sorry. Oh, I printed out today's birthday. Who's birthday? Oh, it's Ozzy's birthday.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's fun. Not Ozzy Smith, Ozzy Oz. Ooh, it's Marissa Tomey's birthday. God, she's still hot. I love Marissa Tomey. Study finds that famous singers die sooner than regular singers. Well, that's well document. right like isn't there the 27 club the 27 club is the big club like where all the famous singers died when they were in there uh when they were 27 all the big celebrities and stuff so that's nothing new there i'm not shocked by that development uh let's see what else do we have oh that's a nice sweet story i don't want to get i'm like doing a sweet story today the detroit lions surprise a couple with super bowl tickets after their act of kindness so like these detroit lions fans bought some kid a jersey who was wearing a pistons jersey at the lion's
Starting point is 00:11:19 game and now the lions have given these people that gave him the jersey because it went viral. They gave him Super Bowl to or the people, the couple Super Bowl tickets. That kid's got to feel like he got cheated. So I get a shitty like Jemir Gibbs jersey and these guys get to go to the Super Bowl for like posting a video of themselves giving me a jersey that I didn't even ask for. I feel like that guy got the short end of the stick there. Anyway, more to come.

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