The Josh Innes Show - I Hate Sean Payton

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

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watching them do this boring-ass shit they do. And then it's like, oh, well, we have to pass now. So let's pass. Like, it's pretty clear the guy can do it. But yet we still have to watch them get into these like third and 13 situations and try to force these runs with Jalen Hertz. The guy can sling. And again, some of it's situational, right?

Most of the time these teams are selling out to stop the run because they don't believe you're going to throw and then you throw it over the top and you beat them. That's part of it because they're creeping down, down, and that's part of the game you're playing with these guys. But the guy can obviously deliver some of these throws and we shit on him all the time, yet the guy can go out there and deliver these throws.

Yet for whatever reason, the Eagles find themselves behind, for whatever reason the Eagles are out here, you know, third and 13, third and 12, and they throw when they have to? Like, that's maddening. just a random thought I thought watching that game. A game they could have lost to Minnesota, but Minnesota settled for too many field goals and didn't score touchdowns, and you're going to lose games that way. That's how you lose.

That's a recipe for losing a settling for field goals, especially in this era of football. But, dude, Jalen Hertz bald, absolutely bald. And he obviously can do it. So what are they doing? Like, why are they still doing the same shit they're doing offensively? Or is he just a product of, well, they're in third and 13, and they, they, they, They're creeping down to try to stop him, and they're going over the top. Is that more of what this is?

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and scored again and they were up 18 with 10 minutes to go go and lost. And then they come all the way back again and take the lead with 37 seconds to go and lost. Pretty remarkable. And I hate Sean Payton. I hate him with a passion. Like I get that he was the coach for the Saints. And in 10 years, five years, whatever, I'll look at him differently.

But the way I look at Sean Payton today is I want Sean Payton to lose all the time because homeboys skedaddled on the shitty situation in New Orleans. Good for you. I'm happy for you. I'm glad that your life's doing a lot. lot better than ours is, but we suck ass. We got Spencer Rattler as our quarterback, and we've got no talent, and we suck. So good for you, Sean Payton, but I was really rooting for you to take an L. The last two weeks, things could have gone really different. They're five and two.

They could very well be three and four, and I wanted them to be three and four. They struggled against the shitty jets, and they struggled against the shitty giants, and they should have lost the shitty giants at home. God damn it. But, I will say this at least. I did bet on the Broncos with 37 seconds to go when the Giants took the lead and they missed the extra point. I'm like, well, let me jump in. Because I felt confident that the Broncos were going to at least get down into field goal range. And sure enough, they did.

So there's that. That was like an old school Saints Sean Payton game, except the Saints would find a way to lose those games. The Saints were so good at rallying in the fourth quarter, taking the lead with like a minute to go. and you're like, yeah! And then like bang, bang, bang, other team gets into field goal range and wins it. And that's essentially what happened in this one, except they left too much time.

Dart ran in the touchdown. There was too much time. 37 seconds of the NFL in Denver, when all you need to do is get to like the 50 to have a chance. I mean, hell, the drive starts at the 35. All you had to do is complete a couple passes. They did it. They kicked the field goal.

Game over. And that will probably be the end of the road for the Giants. Why did the Giants? But why did the giant score so fast? Like I understand it was a four-point game, so you had to score a touchdown. You couldn't just sit on it. And I don't remember how many timeouts the Broncos had. I would imagine they didn't have any or were short on timeouts.

But what are you doing there? Like I'm trying to go back to the play that the touchdown was scored on. I'm trying to think it was at a running clock or not. Like I don't think it was a running clock. Let's see. there was 37 seconds to go. It was after an incomplete pass. But there was a penalty called, so the clock stopped. It was the pass interference. So there was the pass interference.

They've got the ball at the one yard line. And I don't know what the timeout situation was like. And I know that you can't just sit there and try to not score because you never know what will happen. Before you know, you've lost two or three yards and you're no longer at the one yard line. So you got to score. But you also left 37 seconds. That's the worst spot to be in from the one yard line because you know you can't. just sit there and, hey, I'm going to take a knee

and then try to run another play. Like running out the clock to try to score on the last play of the game is not a smart move, and they know that. Yeah, so I don't think that, I think they were out of timeouts. I think they used up all their timeouts did the Broncos. Let me make sure on that. But I think they used all their timeouts earlier in the quarter. Pretty crazy.

But again, what do you do in that spot? Because you scored too fast, but you're not, not going to score. Yeah, Denver had used up all their timeouts. By three minutes to go, they'd used all their timeouts. So they had no timeouts to stop the clock. So in theory, you could have run one play that got the clock moving. You had timeouts left. So in a breaking case of emergency situation, you could have called a timeout there if things got bad. But you also don't want to run the risk of not scoring at all or fumbling or something else. So, but man, 37 seconds on the NFL's

a fucking eternity. Like, that's nothing. Hell, 17 seconds is nothing. If they would have given them the ball back with 10 seconds, I would have said one completion. You're in field goal range. Just one completion. They were going to complete it. So that was such a Saints game, though. That was such a holy shit. We scored to, oh, God, there's 37 seconds to go.

And you knew it was going to happen. Well, really, we scored, but they got the ball back. They marched down, commit a couple of pass interference. that's what the Saints would always do. It would either be a big play, like a George Kittle 40-yard touch, you know, completion to get into field goal range, or there'd be a pass interference, or they'd be a Minnesota miracle that always happened for the Saints with Sean Payton. And this time it happened again, but they had too much time. That's the same thing. Like, I remember a Texan Saints game that was like that.

It was a Monday night game that opened the season, I think, in 2018, maybe. 2017, 2018. And it was similar to that, but you left enough time on the clock. for Drew to get him into field goal range and he made the field goal. But that was just a Sean Payton game, man. And now this day bowl is going to get his ass fired. I think that's pretty clear. I mean, he was going to get his ass fired anyway.

But they were playing better. And if they win that, they're three and four. You know, road win over the Broncos. You're kind of like, okay, we'll see what you got. But no, boy, no. So now they're two and five. Boy. I do like Jackson Dart, though.

What were his numbers in the game yesterday? I'll be honest, I didn't watch a second of this game until they started rallying. I'm not going to spend my time. There were four other games or three other games happening in the afternoon, none of which were, you know, overly intriguing. I guess, you know, the Chargers game never really got good. There was just a ton of offense in it, but it was never really competitive. I mean, think about the fucking Colts? Like, look at the Colts.

They just keep finding ways to win. Daniel Jones. He and then tonight you're going to see Baker, two dudes that have been total reclamation projects. It is wild what those guys have been able to do. You know, Baker tonight versus, you know, Jared Golf is in a similar boat, although Jared Golf was a guy that went to the Super Bowl, but you traded a Super Bowl quarterback. And, you know, by that logic, you're left for dead.

And he comes to Detroit that had no success at all. And now he's winning. That's a great matchup tonight. I love that game. Yeah, but Jackson Dart had a good game. I mean, his completion percentage wasn't particularly good, but who cares? I mean, you made the throws you needed to make, and you got him in position. Guy threw for 283 and three touchdowns.

Guy ran the ball well, too. Had a rushing touchdown for the third time in five games. He had a rushing touchdown. I love the guy. I love watching him play. That's another guy. A product. We talked about Lane Kiffin earlier, a product of Lane Kiffin.

It'll miss. But anyhow, that's a, like, ball buster for the Giants, but, look, good for me, because I took them to win that thing, I put together a drive and win it, so good for me. Life didn't suck for me in that situation. Rock on But Dayball So the Giants gig's going to be open And that's going to be a good one

Because Jackson Dart is there Now you may not be someone Who believes in Jackson Dart if you're a coach I do I believe in the guy a lot I'm a big Jackson Dart guy You know this But boy there were some bad games yesterday too though

Like the Chiefs and Raiders Like Pete Carroll might get whacked after one fucking year They're a disaster That Chiefs Raiders game was a total waste of time Cleveland I mean look Miami's going to be open but it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. So they're going to fire Homeboy.

I admire the shit out of my guy, though, sitting out in the pouring fucking rain and he's got his hood on to stop the rain and he's got his giant oversized aviators on. Like, it's just fucking spectacular. They're getting their asses kicked by the Browns. My man's got his giant aviators on, getting rained on. God, I'm going to miss that guy. I love you, King. I mean, the Patriots game was terrible.

The Jets and Panthers game was terrible. The Saints and Bears game was terrible. The Eagles, Minnesota game was fine. The Colts and Chargers had at least a lot of offense, but the game itself was terrible. The Cowboys game was terrible. The Sunday night game was a fucking drag. But what was funny about that game is it was over in less than three hours. It had been the fastest moving NFL game ever.

The clock just kept on it. It's like they had a running clock. Green Bay and Arizona was a good game. But yesterday was a really bad day. for good game. It was awful. I mean, it started with the London game. It was 35 to 7. And the only reason we had a good game is because of a rally with the Broncos. If that wouldn't happen, that would have been another shit game. What a bad day. But I think tonight's going to make up for it. I think we're going to get a good one with the Lions and the Bucks. And the Bucks are

getting some of their receivers back. And the Lions are beat up in the secondary. So this could be a back and forth a shootout. I think it's going to be a shootout. And then tonight. We also get to see if the Texans are actually worth the shit on offense or if they still suck. So we'll see. All right, more to come.