The Josh Innes Show - I Hope Mahomes Plays/Woody Johnson Rules
Episode Date: December 19, 2024Andy Reid says Pat Mahomes is going to play. I hope he does. The Texans fans should hope to get the best shot from both the Chiefs and Baltimore. Right now, the fanbase seems very blah about the post ...season. Play two good games against two great teams and you'll get the fans revved up. Woody Johnson telling Jets players they suck is truly an all time awesome move. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Alrighty, kiddos.
A couple other football things to get into here today.
First of all, as it relates to Saturday's game, Texans and Chiefs,
there is an update on Patrick Mahomes.
According to Andy Reid, he said that more than likely, Pat Mahomes is going to start on Saturday against the Texans.
He has this high ankle sprain.
I do not believe that this man has a high ankle sprain.
If this dude is going to play football on Saturday, I don't believe that he has a high ankle sprain.
He might have an ankle sprain.
He might have a twisted ankle like Patrick Mahomes has that kind of like
LeBron tendency of like in my opinion acting like he's far more hurt than he actually is because it
makes things look impressive and this is about the time of year when we get that Patrick Mahomes
limp and you're like oh no Patrick Mahomes has a limp is he hurt is it going to hurt the Chiefs
then he's going to come out and ball right he's going to make weird behind the back passes and
over the head passes and throw a pass between his fucking legs.
So do I believe that Patrick Mahomes is like seriously hurt? I don't. And I've watched the
quarterback show, which it took me a long time to get on board with watching him, but the
quarterback show, fantastic. And Pat Mahomes, I think seems like a somewhat interesting guy.
But the stuff this guy goes through every day to get himself in shape and the workouts he goes through, dude's a beast.
But if you had a high ankle sprain and you're going to be playing like five days later with a high ankle sprain, I mean, I was hobbled by a high ankle sprain.
Fucking Paul Sheldon getting his fucking ankles taken out by Annie Wilkes and misery.
I was worse off than that with a high ankle sprain.
So if you want me to believe that you're going to get Patrick Mahomes with a high ankle sprain
coming back, and I know this guy plays through a lot of injuries and I guarantee it's going
to hurt.
I get all that.
I do not believe this guy had a high ankle sprain.
Call me a conspiracy theorist.
Call me whatever. There ain't no way, no way a dude has a high ankle sprain and he's locked in and guaranteed
to be playing on Saturday. And that's what it sounds like from Andy Reid. Reading some of the
comments. As a follow-up, Reid was asked if Mahomes will play barring a setback. Reid said he didn't
want to lead any one way or another, but quote,
we've been taking it day by day and it's kind of where we're at,
but he did look good out there, yeah.
Reid said Mahomes was able to move around well
and looks as if he'll be able to get out of the way
and not further any harm to the ankle.
The head coach also noted he wasn't sure at the beginning of the week
if Mahomes would be
able to make it to this point so soon. Quote, I've been through it with him before and he amazes me
every time he does it. That guy, he's so mentally tough. It's a mindset that he's going into it.
So where he was a few days ago, yeah, I'd probably say it was a long shot but he's done well with it like this is I don't know the more you hear this kind of shit like I think they just put bullshit out there and
we all gobble it up like in this this mythos of Patrick Mahomes like this guy could have a foot
amputated and they'd be like well he may play on Saturday and then he'll come out on a fucking peg
and come out and beat the shit out of you like I I don't know man like you can tell me all this now again it could all be posturing it could all be
this idea that Mahomes is like they're trying they don't want to give you any you know edge one way
or the other which a good coach would do any good coach would do that like even if you don't think
Mahomes is going to play you spend all all week telling people that he could play.
But this is different.
This isn't just a situation where a guy is kind of deliberately misleading you because he doesn't want to give you an edge in terms of your preparation.
This is a coach saying he's going to play more than likely.
This is a guy saying, I've watched him for the last week, and three days ago I would have said no fucking way.
And then up to this point, I think he's going going to play so no longer does it seem like posturing no longer does it seem like gamesmanship no longer does it seem like a situation where you're going
to go okay you might want to prepare for both Pat Mahomes and Carson Wentz that ain't this
this is motherfuckers better prepare for Patrick Mahomes so really is it bad
news for either team not really because like this I again every game involving the Texans from here
on out kind of doesn't matter like yes they could sneak into the three no they're not gonna I mean
they've already won the division so they're not gonna lose the division the best they can do is
the three seed do they even want the three seed?
I don't know.
So it's a weird couple of games coming up.
Here's what I want to see out of the Texans. And this is why I'm glad that we're getting to see Pat Mahomes, even if he's not 100%
Pat Mahomes.
Here's why I'm glad we're actually going to see Pat Mahomes.
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so why this matters. Why this matters to me for the
Texans the next couple of weeks, right? It doesn't matter at all in terms of the standings unless you
want the three or the four. You're not going to be the number one. You're not going to climb up to
the number two. You could, and I'd argue realistically, end up the number three. More than likely, you're
going to end up the number four as it stands because I don't think you're beating both Kansas
City or the Ravens in back-to-back short weeks, and you may not
beat either one of them, right?
There's a very good possibility that the Texans are hovering around at nine and eight, and
that's how they get into the playoffs.
Actually, no, it's more than likely they're a 10-win team.
They could win 11, but 10 is what we're looking at right here.
Why do these games matter?
It's obvious why these games matter
because every Texans fan really for the last month and a half is essentially known the Texans are
going to be a playoff team. They've also watched them for the entire season sputtering offensively.
I wouldn't even say they've been hit or miss offensively. They've just been a very mediocre
offense that for the most part gives you point totals in the lower 20s. They stall out in the
red zone. Kicking game has even faltered a little bit at times. There have been very few moments
when you look at the Texans offense and you go, this is humming. And that's even when everyone's
healthy. Like you might have a big moment where you get a big Nico catch or Nico catch the screen
goes for 70, gets called back or a big touchdown over the middle. Like you'll get those and you'll
see great moments. Like don't get me wrong. the Texans will have moments and you'll watch them and you'll go
fuck like the tank Dell catch at the end of the game to see a week one. Like that's a huge
fucking play. Like they have players and these players make big plays. They just don't score
enough points. And we've known this, right? So we've known that the Texans are good enough to
win the shitty division. And we've known this for weeks and weeks and weeks. That's not difficult.
What we want to see is if when this team gets into the playoffs and the playoffs start in a
month or however long they start from now, a couple of weeks, we want to see that this team
can compete with these higher end teams. They've already beaten Buffalo, but it feels like five years ago that they beat Buffalo, right?
Like it doesn't feel like it's even in the same season that they beat Buffalo.
And it doesn't feel like Buffalo is the same team that Buffalo was when the
Texans beat Buffalo. So here's what you want to see.
You've got two games over like a four day stretch.
It's not a total fair gauge,
but I think these two games are going to tell Texans fans
if they should go into the playoffs actually excited,
thinking, you never know.
You know, are we the favorite? No.
Are we expected to beat Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
even the Chargers, Broncos in the playoffs?
Like, you could argue the Texans will probably be,
out of all the playoff teams that get in,
and let's assume it stays the way it is,
so it's going to be Ravens, Steelers are both going both going to be in Chargers Broncos are going to be in Chiefs Bills Texans you could argue that when the playoffs start in the AFC the Texans
would probably be they'd be above both the Chargers and the Broncos only because those two
teams would be playing road playoff games the Texans will have a home playoff game and they'd be playing one of those teams
possibly. So maybe one of those teams could be the Steelers or the Ravens, but we'll see.
Actually, it probably would be the Steelers or the Ravens at that point. So as you would sit there
on the four seed, you're going to play the five, going to be the Steelers or the Ravens at that
point. So you look at the fact that those two teams are going to be playing road playoff games, like you'd have an edge over them
just because you're playing at home.
But guess what?
You're going to be playing at home against a team like Pittsburgh
or a team like Baltimore that is better than both the Broncos and the Ravens.
So if you were to rank the AFC playoff teams as they stand right now,
you'd say, I guess most people would say Bills,
but until proven otherwise, I'm going Kansas City because it's my home. So you'd say, I guess most people would say Bills, but until proven otherwise, I'm going
Kansas City because it's my home. So you'd go Kansas City. I guess you'd ride with Buffalo.
Then you would ride, I'd go Baltimore and Pittsburgh, all depending on whether or not
George Pickens is there. I mean, they are a night and day offense without George Pickens.
So I'd say out of the seven playoff teams, the Texans are probably the fifth best of those teams. And you could flip a coin and say, look,
if we can get healthy, Justin Herbert, Ladd, McConkie, Stone, Smart to take on the Texans,
they could beat them, right? The Broncos could. I don't think they would. I wouldn't take them
too, but they got a good head coach. They could. So let's just say the Texans are the fifth best playoff team in the AFC, right? Like you want to see in these next two games, as we noted week 17
or week 18 rather against the, um, against Tennessee doesn't matter. So you want to see
these two weeks, a team go out and give you reason to believe that maybe if the stars align,
they win a playoff game and scare some people.
Like last year, you went in kind of like, hey, it's house money, right?
Like that was first year being good again, house money.
Hey, look out, Browns.
Bang, you beat the shit out of them.
Then you're like, hey, we got a puncher's chance against Baltimore.
Going into it right now, if the playoffs started today,
Houston's already a fickle sports town anyway
with very little belief in teams unless it's like the Astros, right? Right now, Texans fans are probably sitting there watching
the Texans going, whatever. I'm not overly interested in this team. I'm not like cool.
They're going to make the playoffs. We know. Like it's funny, the mood around the Texans
is that of a fan base who spent the last decade being awesome and now just being a
playoff team isn't good enough it's kind of the vibe you got around the Astros last year the
difference is the Astros won two world series went to the NLC or ALCS seven years in a row
the Texans went to the playoff once and now there's already this malaise around them like
yeah we're gonna go to the playoffs but who gives a fuck you know we've been there done that so like
there's already this malaise and that's due in, in large part, to the Texans and their own ineptitude offensively.
So I get it.
But what you can learn in these next two weeks if the Texans come out and sling it around.
Because, by the way, these are not meaningless games for both the Chiefs and the Ravens.
Like, it is possible the Chiefs could blow the one seed.
Highly unlikely.
But they could.
The Ravens want a home playoff game. The games they're playing matter to them. They don't want to blow the home seed. Highly unlikely, but they could. The Ravens want a home playoff game.
The games they're playing matter to them. They don't want to blow the home playoff game. They
don't want to lose the division to Pittsburgh. So they're not playing these teams knowing that
these teams have nothing to play for. So beating them and playing well against them would prove
something, and I think it would re-energize the fan base. You go out and you do the same shit,
and you find ways to lose to these teams, and you limp into the playoffs after beating the titans and you may not even play anybody against
the titans because there'd be no point to so the texans may be limping into the playoffs on a three
game losing streak at that point including the loss to the fucking titans so like people have
no hope give people hope is what these games can do i'm glad pat mahomes is playing even if he's a
banged up Pat
Mahomes, because if the Texans go out there and they beat Carson Wentz, who gives a fuck? What
does it prove? Cool, you went out and you beat the backup quarterback on the road. Go beat Mahomes
or go dick to dick. Dick to dick? Who goes toe to toe? Go dick to dick. What are we doing here?
Go dick to dick with these guys and show them that you can fucking compete with them.
Again, it feels like years ago that they beat Buffalo. Like they haven't played a game against
anybody here recently where you'd go, fuck, yeah, I'm feeling kind of good about it. You beat the
Chiefs at the Chiefs. You beat the Ravens on Christmas. And all of a sudden you're at least
feeling like, okay, you beat the Ravens on Christmas. You all of a sudden you're at least feeling like, okay, you beat the Ravens
on Christmas, you sit everybody in week 18, doesn't matter, then you're resting, and it's
you're resting because you're feeling good about yourselves, you're trying to get healthy.
If you're resting week 18 with back-to-back losses to the Chiefs and the Ravens,
it doesn't feel the same way. So it's important that Mahomes plays, it's important to give you
a barometer, it's important to see where you really are for the fans going into the
season or the postseason. So that excites me. I'm glad that we're getting that. So that's the reason
why you should be looking at that excited. I also read another story that I found funny today.
It was about Woody Johnson, who apparently was gauging the talent level of players based on
their Madden ratings. And that's why they didn't sign.
I guess it was Jerry Judy who they didn't sign because his Madden rating was low,
which is fantastic, by the way.
That's how I gauge everybody, right?
We just look at Madden.
Madden's very important.
Look, if the Madden ratings didn't matter, I will defend Woody Johnson here.
If the Madden ratings didn't matter, then why do the players care so much about them?
Why do the players go like they're going in front of fucking Congress and lobbying to get their grades changed by a bunch of doofy ass white dudes that work for Madden?
If they didn't matter, then why would they care so much about them?
So the Madden ratings do matter.
And there's a lot of people who learn everything they know about football from Madden.
So, Woody Johnson, you're one of us, bro.
Congratulations. But then there's another story and this all comes from the athletic
and this is interesting. I like this one. So the item alleges that Woody Johnson, his wife and his
sons have criticized players inside the locker room. Fuck. This is old school owner shit here.
This feels like old school Bud Adams
type shit. Like you could see Bud Adams walking in the locker room being like, hey, Ernest Givens,
fuck you. You know, like you could just see this kind of shit, right? But in the report, quarterback
Mike White entered the locker room after a late season loss to the Seahawks. He threw his helmet
onto the floor before heading to the shower. I would hope he'd also take off the rest of his
clothes. Actually, I choose to believe take off the rest of his clothes.
Actually, I choose to believe he just showered fully clothed.
Why not?
Like, that really sends a message. I'm so despondent about this shitty loss.
I am Mike White.
I threw my helmet and I showered in my pads.
Jets players reportedly heard Woody say,
you should be throwing your helmet.
You fucking suck.
That fucks.
I like that.
Like, I like that the owner walks into the locker room.
He's like, look, he writes the fucking checks.
Like, at some point when you're the guy that writes the checks and you get tired of seeing bullshit,
like, you could argue Woody Johnson's a shitty owner.
But look, Woody Johnson went out and spent the money on A-Rodge.
He's the guy that hires the coach and the GMs and trusts them to do their job.
He trusts the players to do their job.
Look, if I owned a team and that team fucking sucked, I'd walk in there Rachel Phelps style He's the guy that hires the coach to the GMs and trust them to do their job. He trusts the players to do their job.
Look, if I owned a team and that team fucking sucked, I'd walk in there Rachel Phelps style and tell them they all fucking sucked.
The Jets, through a spokesperson, confirmed that it happened and that Johnson apologized to White.
Can you imagine that?
Like, you're Mike White.
Like, Mike White knows he sucks.
Mike White knows he's going nowhere in life. Mike White knows that he's just doofus Mike White knows he sucks. Mike White knows he's going nowhere in life.
Mike White knows that he's just doofus Mike White.
And you're walking in there, your life's over,
and the owner goes, you should throw your helmet.
You fucking suck.
That's strong.
We need more owners like that.
Stop kissing people's asses. You're the one writing the check.
They need you.
Boy, that's great.
It says, it won't be stunning if this report dramatically
impacts the ability of the Jets to hire the coach they want to hire the GM they prefer to attract
free agents without having to over. I don't know if that's true. Like people always take jobs like
I like the people overreact and act like there aren't 32 GM jobs only and there aren't 32 head
coaching jobs. Like I like when people talk like that, like they don't think a team's going to get a good coach or not. Like, yes, if you're competing
with someone, maybe the highest end guy wouldn't come work with you. Like, I guess Mike Vrabel's
the hottest name out there based on the success he's had. Throw in Ben Johnson, throw in Aaron
Glenn. Like these are sexy, appealing names. Maybe the highest end guys aren't going to go to you.
But you know what? There's only 32 of
these things. Like I go back and forth with a guy on Twitter sometimes who's a Saints fan type guy.
I think he's a media guy. And he's like, no one's ever going to come play for the Saints because
they don't want to live in New Orleans. I'm like, that ain't why. The issue is the GM's dog shit.
That's why they don't want to come play there. It has nothing to do with the city. My argument is there are only 32 NFL jobs, and in two of the cities, they have two teams.
So what does that mean?
There's like 30 NFL cities possible to work in.
Do you think someone's going to turn down an NFL job because, oh, I don't want to live in New Orleans?
Sean Payton did a pretty fucking good job living in New Orleans, and so did Drew Brees.
Is it the most glamorous place ever?
No.
But there are a lot of places that aren't glamorous. Cleveland ain't glamorous. Cincinnati
ain't glamorous. St. Louis, when it was a football city, not a glamorous fucking place.
There are a ton of places that aren't glamorous. They're crime ridden and shitty. Detroit. Now,
I understand that at the time they hired Dan Campbell, he wasn't the sexiest name out there,
but Dan Campbell's doing a pretty good job at fucking Detroit. He's made Detroit sexy. So like, let's not act like a dude's not going to take a
job. So I don't necessarily believe that they can't get a good candidate with the jets because
the owner's astute. Go give them some money and see what happens. They'll be coming to you in a
second. I'd actually enjoy an owner telling my players they fucking suck because they fucking
do. Sometimes you got to be told the truth. You know, it's good to be told the truth that actually matters. Sometimes we pussyfoot around too much shit. How about we
sit here and tell people they fucking suck and see if they shit or get off the pot, sink or swim.
We don't do that enough. We should do more of that. That have to happen all the time. But if
I'm the owner of the jets and fucking Mike White's out here is my quarterback playing like shit.
You're throwing my helmet.
I bought that helmet.
Motherfucker.
You pick that shit up.
It's like whenever you would like break shit in your room or like you would
like,
I don't know,
like you get pissed and like you throw your disc man or something when you're
a kid and your dad goes,
you didn't pay for that shit.
Motherfucker.
Don't you don't break shit.
I paid for it.
I'm Woody Johnson.
I'm watching some asshole
throwing a helmet after playing like shit for a team that I pay all the salaries and I buy all
the equipment. Go fuck yourself, Mike White. I'm on Woody Johnson's side. What a world.
All right. Anyway, more to come.