The Josh Innes Show - In Memoriam

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Some people are not pleased with the Oscars omitting certain actors from the In Memoriam segment. I'm intrigued by the selection process. Is it like March Madness? Do they look at resumes to determine who makes the cut? The Gene Hackman death is certainly strange. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, so I watched a little bit of the Oscars, not a ton. I kind of flipped back and forth. I saw that Macaulay Culkin's brother, Kieran, won an Oscar. We're in wild times, man, when Data from the Goonies and Fuller from Home Alone have won Oscars in the last couple of years. Pretty fucking remarkable and good for him. He's a likable guy. And I didn't see many of the Oscar movies, far as like the ones that were nominated for Best Picture. I don't think I saw.

I guess I saw a complete unknown. I guess that would be the only Best Picture nominee that I saw. And I saw the movie with Kieran Culkin where he and what's his name? Jesse Eisenberg go on some trip to see like the homeland of his grandmother or whatever. It was fine. Like, I don't, it's weird. What is considered great acting? I don't know anything about acting, right? I'm not an actor. I don't know a fucking thing about acting. Acting is reacting. I know nothing about it. Okay. None of us do, right? Like we all like, it's funny. Like you listen to these NBA players players bitch about how the media talks about them and then their little fans rush to their defense and they

say well you know uh you didn't play the game it's time to start respecting the greatness we're witnessing I guarantee you those same people on the internet who say that about how people should suck farts out of LeBron's asshole are the same people that would watch the Oscars and talk about how shitty the movies aren't how shitty the acting is. Everybody's a fraud. Everybody's full of shit. Fine. But as it relates to acting, I don't know what makes a good actor.

I don't know what makes a good performance. Like was Tom Hanks as Forrest Gump a good performance? He just played a dipshit. Was that really a talent? I don't know. I just know that I watch and certain things I like and certain things I don't. That's the funny thing is like, I couldn't tell you what makes Gene Hackman a better actor or not a better or a worse actor than Benicio Del Toro. Like, I don't know. It's just, you watch it and you either you dig it or you don't. It's the same with music. Like you can hear if somebody knows how to play an instrument

or if someone's got a good voice, but it's all subjective bullshit. But I went to watch the movie with Kieran colkin and i don't even remember what the hell it was called it was fine it was passable entertainment it was you know heartfelt whatever is it win an oscar type of worthy i don't i mean look i guess because someone did i mean marissa tomei won an oscar and my cousin vinny unless you believe the uh the conspiracy theory and that's that Jack Palance, who gave her the award, read the wrong name. But either way, I don't know what makes you a great actor, what doesn't make you a great actor. One day, people just decided this

person's a great actor, and everything they're in is amazing. And we've all determined that this person's a horrible actor, and everything they're in is terrible. So I don't know. But I did see that movie, and I thought it was fine. His did see that movie and I thought it was fine his acceptance speech was was cute I thought it was something that was going to piss off all the ladies in the world because he's like now my wife owes me more kids because I won an Oscar haha I'm surprised a bunch of blue-haired liberal women weren't all over Twitter all angry about it like oh my oh my god she doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to do but anyway so I saw that I didn't watch a ton um I did see that in the in memoriam which I think is a waste of time stop doing in memoriams right because if you're not

going to mention everyone then people are always going to be pissed off when you leave somebody out so Gene Hackman who that death is getting stranger and stranger all right here's what okay I know I'm all over the place but let's look at Gene Hackman for a second, who they did a thing for at the Oscars, Morgan Freeman did. Quincy Jones also got his own separate performance for his death, but then they left out like Michelle Trachtenberg, who died last week.

They might say, Josh, how could they add her so fast? She just died. Well, they did a thing for Gene Hackman. They also left off Shannon Doherty, who was in Heathers. Heathers, by the way, Heathers and Mallrats, two exponentially better movies than anything that was nominated for an Oscar last night. I will die on that hill.

Shannon Doherty should have an award named after for being in those two incredible films. Heathers, Mallrats. I don't know what Anana is or whatever the fuck the movie that won all the awards is. I guess it's about a stripper, whatever. I didn't watch it. I'm sure it was fine. But it wasn't as good as heathers and it wasn't as good as mall rats shannon doherty doesn't get any love on the oscars the fucking candy man didn't

get any love tony todd the candy man the fuck one of the scariest movies i've ever fucking seen the candy man candy man candy man candy man boom hook to the fucking skull one of the scariest movies I've ever fucking seen. The Candyman. Candyman, Candyman, Candyman. Boom. Hooked to the fucking skull. One of the scariest movies I've ever seen. Tony Todd. And then like in another one. In another one. And Final Destination. But Tony Todd. No love at the Oscars. Michelle Trachtenberg. Sorry Michelle

Trachtenberg. Harriet the Spy and Eurotrip. You're not a big enough star to get mentioned. We gotta mention this fucking key grip that worked with Scorsese in 1970 point being and that is what we need to stop with is the whole concept of the in memoriam they're dead they're not going to fucking see it anyway stop doing in memoriams because unless you're going to name every single person associated with Hollywood that died this year which probably is in the thousands because it's's not just big stars. You're also going to be talking about people that like, you know, hey, this is the best boy, whatever the best boy is. That's what he is. And the guy that

did the lights and the grips and all this shit. These people are all dead too. And you're not going to mention all of them. So then what it makes it look like is you only feature star people and then you think everybody else is worthless, right? So just stop doing the end memorial. Put up a graphic that just runs until every dead celebrity, every dead movie person is done. So just a graphic at the very end of the show. Like, and oh, by the way, here's all the people that died and just let the graphic go until it's over. But what happens is when you ignore people,

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imagine you're the people that sit around and do this like do they all kind of sit around like when you're doing the tournament bracket and they're like well i'm looking at the resume for for alcorn state and i think they're gonna have to play in the play in the first four all right guys we're on the fence here does Duke or Syracuse get the number two seed let's look at the resume do they do that when they determine who is in the uh the in memoriam segment on award shows they're like hey I'm looking at Shannon Doherty here like obviously she's most known for 90210 that's tv heathers was a good movie uh a good you know teen movie in the 80s mall rats and didn't make a ton of cash it's a cult classic i don't know if we're gonna put her in or we're gonna put the person that was in

rosemary's baby i think she's left out i think she's gonna be she's on the first four out currently shannon doherty is first four out to make our list of people that get a whole hubbub on the oscars for dying all right let's go to another one here michelle tractenberg what is she most known for well she did a lot of nickelodeon shit when she was here harriet the spy you know with rosie o'donnell oh she gets points for working with rosie o'donnell because she's one of us wacky liberal wackos so she gets bonus points there but she was also in euro trip which was kind of raunchy and it's not as good as road trip and she you know and yeah honestly i don't even think she's first four out i think she's way down and okay that's fine next tony todd what's he most known for candy man candy man's good but

that has no gravitas yeah tony todd you're out too is that how they do that they get a collection of dopes together in a hotel ballroom and decide who gets to make the end memoriam and who doesn't get to make the end memoriam i am genuinely curious though like all of us are about what actually happened to gene hackman because it's not carbon monoxide it sounds like and again they haven't said this like i don't think someone went in and murdered them i know that that sounds sexy like hey the there's a dog that's dead there's there's you know the wife is dead they're dead different like you wonder if this was some sort of like suicide pact or something,

you know, he's like, I'm old, I'm 90 something years old, I don't want to live anymore. And she's like, I can't live without your love and affection. And then the one out of the three dogs is like, me neither. And you're like, well, what do we do? And the other two dogs are like, listen, well, they get everybody together. It's Gene Hackman, his wife, and the three dogs.

And they're like, listen, guys, here's what we're going to do. What the? Oh, what happened? Oh, damn, sorry. I thought my thing stopped recording. I was very concerned for a second. But they all get together. And they bring them all into the living room.

Gene gets all the crew together. The wife is there. The three dogs are there. And they all sit down. And they're them all into the living room. Jean gets all the crew together. The wife is there. The three dogs are there. And they all sit down and they're like, listen, I'm not doing too well and I don't want to live anymore. So I'm going to kill myself. And your mother here has decided that she cannot live without me. And she's going to kill herself too. We're going to drink something, poison, whatever. We're going to die.

And we're giving you guys the opportunity to join us. And like the first dog steps forward, he's like, fuck yeah, I will. I'm going down with this ship. I don't want to live without you guys. If you're not here, who the hell do I have to protect? Fellas, you coming with with us and the other two dogs are like

yeah we're in cool cool beans we're in and then like the day comes for them to drink all of the Drano or whatever the Kool-Aid whatever the fuck it is they're going to drink to off themselves and the other two dogs like hide the shit in their like jowls

and spit it out. They're like, yeah, we drank it. Like in the movie where the guy's at the psych ward and they're trying to give them sleeping pills to put them to sleep or to give them some meds. And they're like, yeah, I'll take it. And they take the little white cup and they take the pill but hide the pill in their gums and their teeth and their jowls. That's what these dogs did. And then everybody's dead. And they're like, well, what the fuck do we do now?

They're just hanging around like everybody's dead. they're like all right well i guess we'll just hang out until someone finds us now imagine having to adopt those dogs those dogs have seen some shit their partners over here just dead their two humans are dead and they're just like shit man i'm hungry we've been here seven days i'm fucking starved let's go rummage through the kitchen do you think i mean they're dead right let's go give them a sniff oh yeah they're dead who's gonna fuck with us now let's just go to the kitchen let's eat what let's eat till our hearts content but i really have no fucking clue like did they kill themselves were they murdered in some way like who murders one dog but not the

other two and wouldn't there be more evidence of a murder it's intriguing and they were both dead in different rooms so it's not like when the uh like the two people died in titanic that scene when they're in the bed laying together and the water rushes in and they're holding each other it wasn't like that wasn't like romeo and juliet or some shit like i think he was in a different room maybe it could have been a situation where like he started to die and he's like, fuck, I don't want to die now.

This was a horrible decision. And he gets up and starts trying to walk outside or something and it just dies. I don't know. Well, they're saying it's not suspicious. It's certainly interesting. There's an intriguing element to this.

There's layers of it. Like Michelle Trachtenberg, like they,, she died and it is what it is. And, you know, there's no real iffy details. Gene Hackman's story is interesting. While I don't know that they were offed, it feels like now, initially it felt like, again, you hear the story the first time. You're like, all right, carbon monoxide. That would make sense. Dog's dead.

But then there's two other dogs. So you're like, well, shit, then obviously it wasn't carbon monoxide that would make sense dogs dead but then there's two other dogs so you're like well shit then obviously it wasn't carbon monoxide it would have killed these two dogs too there's no evidence of foul play seemingly other than the fact that there are two dead bodies and a dead dog that could be considered well there's something suspicious here but

it is intriguing I'm interested the plot thickens as it were alright more to come