The Josh Innes Show - Jerry and Jonathan Get Fined

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Jerry Jones and Jonathan Gannon both received hefty fines for their actions over the weekend. Jerry Jones flipped off some fans. Gannon pushed a player. The Gannon angle is a great overreaction. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, everybody. Welcome in, all up in us. I am Josh. Hello. Glad you guys are listening. Glad you guys are checking out the podcast. I truly appreciate it. You are wonderful. And with that said, it is 427 in the morning on Wednesday. I actually got to bed relatively early last night. Really, the middle of the week is my snooze time because generally speaking, there are no football games to occupy my attention. And I should have gotten to bed even earlier last night because the stupid Tigers game was specifically. supposed to happen at 408, but it started in a three-hour delay, so it didn't end until after 10. And the game sucked anyway. The Tigers got their asses kicked. It's like 8 to 1 going into the ninth inning. They ended up losing 8 to 4. But so the middle of the week is where I catch up on my sleep because I'm not watching

Thursday football, Friday, you know, college football. Basically Thursday through Monday night, I got, I mean, it's football and I'm up until 11 o'clock because the eastern time zone is wild. and everything starts at like 9 o'clock, and it's a nightmare. But you know that. If you're listening in Philly, you're like, no, shit, I've lived my entire life that way. If you're listening somewhere in Houston or somewhere in the Midwest or wherever, you're like, I don't even know what that life is.

I feel like the people that live in California have it best when it comes to time. Or like Denver, Colorado, like Mountain Time. Mountain Time seems like it kind of kicks ass. I remember, like times we'd go to Vegas, and it'd be so awesome because the sports would be going on virtually all day, but then they'd be over at like 8 o'clock. There'd be like two or three games still going on, and that was it after that. I loved that life.

But as is, I'm here watching sports until like midnight, and then I get up at 3.45, so here we are. But you've got your own problem, so I'm going to just stop bitch. All right, let's get into some stuff after these words. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of old. lifetime. That's the powerful

backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at amex.c.com.com. All right. Where do we start? Well, we talk about the NFL and fines. So Jerry Jones flipped off a fan

after the Cowboys beat the Jets, and he's going to pay $250,000 for the gesture. Jones was asked about his actions during his weekly spot on 1053, the fan and Dallas. And the answer from the owner was the gesture was inadvertent. That was unfortunate. That was kind of an exchange with our fans in front of us, Jones said. There was a swarm of

Cowboys fans in front of us, not Jets fans, Cowboys fans. The entire stadium was brimming with enthusiasm of the Cowboys and certainly late in the game. The gesture was inadvertent on my part because that was right after we made our last touchdown and we were all excited about it. There wasn't any antagonistic issue or anything like that. I just put up the wrong show on the hand. That was inadvertently done. I'm not kidding. If you want to call it accidental, you can call it accidental.

But it got straightened around pretty quickly. I had a chance to look at it. I got straightened out pretty quickly, but the intention was thumbs up and basically pointing at our fans because everybody was jumping up and down excited. There is a scene in a movie that none of you will have seen because it's totally random. but there's a movie called Bean and it is a Mr. Bean movie. It came out in the late 90s. It was Peter McNichael and Mr. Bean and I think Bert Reynolds was in it.

And there's a scene where Bean gets flipped off and he has no idea what Bean flipped off means. He thinks it's like a positive gesture. So he just, everywhere he goes, he starts flipping people off. I guess that's what happened here. I don't know, you know, I know for a fact that I do not believe this, even though the dude's like 82 years old and he's an old dude, he's an octogenarian, he's old, I don't believe my man doesn't know the difference between flipping somebody off and giving somebody a thumbs up. And if he doesn't know the difference between flipping somebody off and giving somebody a thumbs up, then perhaps it's time to take the keys away from grandpa. I'm a big believer in taking the keys away from grandpa. I'm a big believer, as you know, in old. people not being allowed on the internet. I am a big believer in old people having to pass very tough tests to drive and be on the internet and have cell phones. This is something I believe. Like once you hit AARP age, I'll even do you one better. Like once you get to like 70, once you get to like 70,

once you hit 70, you should have to take tests. You should have to take tougher tests, not just typical, you know, the garden variety test. I need you taking difficult test to be able to drive, to be able to use a cell phone, and to be able to use the internet, and maybe to own a football team. Once you get to 82 years old and you don't know the difference between flipping people off and giving somebody a thumbs up, then perhaps it's time to stop the party. Maybe it's over for you. That's why I don't. I don't want to believe this. And the reason I don't want to believe it is because I don't want to believe that Jerry Jones, who I think is pretty badass, actually. Like, I get that it's fun to make fun of Jerry Jones and the Cowboys

haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years, and I get all that. But I watched the documentary, which was basically just a hype video for Jerry Jones, and I fell for it. Like, I'm right in it. I'm kind of easy in that way, right? Like, the same way with Dion. Like, I don't think Dion Sanders is a particularly good coach, but I can understand why young dudes gravitate towards him, and I've listened to his inspirational book on tape. And I'm like, you know what? I dig it. man, I'm diving headfirst into Dion and I'm diving head first into Jerry Jones. I can easily be swayed by a puff piece that elevates somebody, a height piece, if you will. Like, I can be easily duped by those things.

That's one of my downfalls, I guess, is when I see a documentary like the one about Jerry Jones, I know that it's full of shit and I know that it's being done from the point of view of Jerry Jones. And I don't care. I'm like, you know what? I'm in. This guy is badass and he's my hero. Same with a lot of people. Anything I see about Sammy Hagar, by Sammy Hagar, I'm like, this fucking guy rules.

Fuck all the other dudes in Van Halen. This guy is my guy. I can be bought in that kind of way. I can be conned in that kind of way. So, like, I believe that Jerry Jones is just badass. I love badass old dudes who seemingly don't give a shit. And that's what Jerry Jones is, and that's why I like Jerry Jones so much. My issue is you start to lose me when you're like, now listen, I thought I was

giving him a thumbs up. Like, I think even an 82 year old guy, unless you've got a touch of the dementia, and by a touch of the dementia, I mean like a full groping of dementia, I think you know the difference between flipping somebody off in a positive, or like giving a positive thumbs up to someone on your team, giving him a point, giving him a thumbs up, and being like, double birds here, pal, go fuck yourself. Like, I think you know the difference. I'd like to believe you know the difference.

I need you to know the difference. reference, Jerry, because I ride with you. I cut for you, dog. You're my dude. So I need you to know this. But he got fined $250,000. That seems excessive, doesn't it? Now, I know that the NFL's trying to crack down on vulgar gestures in the games and shit like that. But a $250,000 fine just seems excessive, particularly in a world where the coach from the car, Cardinals, this Jonathan Gannon, who lost his mind on Amari DiMercado after he became the latest dude to drop a ball before the end zone, which I am fascinated by this trend. Like, first of all, I'd like to know when it became cool to just nonchalantly drop the ball in

the end zone, like it's 1966, right? Like the downplayed celebration makes it cooler, I guess. But the number of dipshits, like, I think you should automatically be banned from the NFL if you've got a 72-yard touchdown wiped off the board because you're a fucking moron that drops the ball before the end zone. Like, it's one thing to fumble. Like, the other night, you had Trevor Lawrence try to go over the top on a quarterback sneak.

Not everybody's Drew Breeze and can achieve the over-the-top. You'll put the ball over the goal line, pull it back, play like the great Drew Breeze used to do all the time. And he fumbled the ball. It was punched out and they turned the ball over, right? That's going to happen. That's a play of being aggressive. And sometimes you're going to turn the ball over while trying to.

be aggressive. I don't believe you should automatically be cut from a team or lose your livelihood if you fumble a ball or throw an interception, right? People make mistakes. If they didn't, there wouldn't be erasers on pencils. But if you have a 70-something-yard touchdown taken off the board because you didn't hold onto the ball long enough to get into the end zone, and not because somebody was tracking you down, not because someone pulled you down from behind, not because someone like Leon ledded you, not because of anything like that, because you just dropped the ball too early, I don't think you should be in the NFL. Now, the argument should be, well, the embarrassment should be enough? Should it? Should the embarrassment be enough? Like, I think you need a greater

punishment. Like, I feel like, you know, there's Jonathan Gannon got a $100,000 fine for going off on the sky on the sideline. I think the player should get $150,000 fine for essentially costing this team the game, because if you score that touchdown, you're up 25 points and there ain't no way the lowly, mediocre, dreadful titans are going to come back and beat you. So you should be fined $150,000 for that. I love the comments that I'm reading on the story about Jonathan Gannon getting a find $100,000. Because you've got one camp of people who were like, well, back when I was growing up, my coach used to shit on me. Like literally, he'd sit me on the ground and he would take a shit on me.

if I didn't if I didn't if I didn't if I fumbled a ball my coach would then spit he'd say open your mouth and he'd spit right in my mouth and he'd say go fuck yourself homo and then the other camp of people are like this is assault this is a salt and this should not be tolerated you know there probably is a middle ground somewhere right like there's got to be somewhere in the middle of all this where you're like hey I can understand why the coach lost his mind on this thing but perhaps the multiple times of like, you know, taking wax at the guy, like losing your mind to that level, it might be a bit excessive. I don't know that it's $100,000 fine worthy because part of that is just coaching. Sometimes people are going to yell and lose their minds in situations. Part of the reason why I think this is the big deal that it is, and I think it's obvious, is because this is a white dude going off on a black player. I think if this were a scenario where it was just black coach going off on black player, nobody would give a shit. But this kind of plays into this narrative, this kind of world we live in in 2025 where it's like, oh, look, there's angry white guy going off on black player. And that guy doesn't deserve this and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I think that's a huge part of it. I think if it were black player and white coach, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But he got fined $100,000. So think about this, outburst on the sideline where you're like, like, you know, pushing your player, $100,000 fine. Old man claims he doesn't know the difference between flipping somebody off and giving them a thumbs up gets $250,000. I don't think these are equitable situations. I don't think that these, I don't think there's an equal, like these are not equal here.

But, man, when I used to play, and I'm not, look, I'm not trying to be like that dude, right? I didn't play in college or anything like that. I didn't play at a high level. I played high school basketball for four years. but look I've watched some coaches be fucked up now I've told you the candy ass story where I missed an open layup in a basketball game and I heard just like the slam on a metal chair I'm like shit so I come back after you know there's a timeout and I sit on the bench

and my buddy who was on the team his dad was the coach and I go what did coach say and he goes he just asked if you were going to be a candy ass your whole life you look back on that shit now and you're like who gets a shit I don't know. You look back on these things. You don't want to sound like that meathead who's like, man, we used to have to run until we vomit. And like, well, we did.

Like, we'd get up in the morning. Like, we'd be up at this hour of the morning for conditioning for basketball season. It would have been about this time of year. We would be doing it. We'd be getting up at like 4.30, 5 o'clock in the morning before school. And we would have to condition for an hour. And this was conditioning with a dude who was an NFL conditioning guy. Like, he worked with NFL players.

So we'd walk into school. some days, and, like, Warwick Dunn would be in the school training. He didn't go to our high school, but, like, Warwick Dunn would be there. There'd be NFL players, like, doing training with this coach. So he's, like, a legit dude, right? Super religious, so he'd always talk about God and shit. But then he'd, like, basically murder you while you were, like, conditioning. It was wild. So we'd have to get up at, like, you know, 4.30 in the morning, get to the school before school, and go do this conditioning. And virtually everybody who did this conditioning would throw up like you'd see the best athletes that we had on the team like dudes who would go on to play

college basketball and they'd be yacking in the garbage can because this shit was that fucking intense right like you'd look at this now and you'd be like wait a minute or you'd see that we got up for conditioning during the summer and we'd have to go to the school and do shit outside and it'd be you know a hundred degrees with a hundred percent humidity at like five six in the morning we'd be out there running through a blanket of steam feeling like we're going to die. Like, you'd do this now and you'd be like, these people are cruel, but, like, that's just the way it was. You'd watch dudes get in people's faces. Parents didn't care, by the way. Your parents in that era did not give a shit. They did not care if your coach

yelled at you. They didn't care if your coach, like, pushed you around. Like, at no point was your dad going to step up and be like, I think this coach has gone too far. You'd be like, dad, the coach is being an asshole. He'd be like, well, stop being an asshole. Stop being a little bitch and figured out. Maybe if you wouldn't have dropped that pass. Maybe if you wouldn't have swung at strike three, they wouldn't be yelling at you. Like, now parents are like quick to like go up to the coach and be like, sir, um, what's the deal here? What, what did Skyler do? Like, what did Skyler do that warranted you yelling at him in such a manner? Like, that's dudes now. Back then, if like, the coach, like, it didn't matter what level your coach was. This wasn't fucking

Vince Lombardi, we're talking about here. This is whoever's dad just decided to coach. Like, whoever's dad had the heart on to continue coaching because he was a failed high school guy. Whatever dude that was that decided to take on the duty of coaching, he was revered by everybody. Like everybody, every parent would be like, yeah, you should just listen to your coach. He seems to know what he's talking about. He's wearing two snap bicycle shorts and a mesh hat, and he's very aggressive. I feel like he knows exactly what he's talking about. Now, you know, parents are way too involved in this shit and they want to yell at the coach.

Back in my day, nobody yelled at the fucking coach. They just sat there and had this weird respect for the coach, even though that, like, by day, he was a guy that worked at like a plant. And then by afternoon, he's like, he would tell, and he would let you know how difficult his actual job was. And then he was wasting his time coming out here to coach a bunch of losers like you. He'd be like, I don't need to be here. Just so you know, I got a job and I'm happy. I got up at 3.30 this morning. What were you little motherfuckers doing?

I was up at 3.30 this morning. I don't need to be here. If you guys don't want to be here, I don't need to be here. But if you want to be here, look, I'll get out there. You guys go take a position. I'll hit some ground balls. Maybe we'll try to play some fucking ball. But I don't need to be here.

I got my wife at home. She's like, what? I get up at 3. And I don't even see my wife. Like there were all these things that coaches would always fucking say. There was like a coach's handbook of that era. And it would always start with that type of shit. I don't even need to be here.

Just so you know, like, look, I can be at home right now. I can be at home. I can be mowing the law. I'd be cutting the grass right now. but instead I'm out here with you guys. You know I was up at 3.30. I was up at 3.30 this morning to get into the plant. I'm missing out on overtime so I can come coach you little shit

so we can play grab ass so you can come out here and waste my fucking time. You got that? Yes, sir. All right, go run some poles. You just run from foul pole to foul pole. All my man would get you ready to go, ready to pitch some BP and hit some fungo background balls to you. field. All right, we're going to take infield. Anyway, more to come.