The Josh Innes Show - JIS: Jim Mudd Joins

Episode Date: July 9, 2022

Josh Innes and Jim Mudd handle podcast duties today. Jilly is sick. Honestly, no one remembers everything the guys talked about. But, we know it was fun. Over three hours the guys had some deep convos mixed with some really wacky discussions. Just listen and enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for the last couple days so she hasn't worked for the last couple days so uh we thought it wouldn't be a wise choice for jilly to get on here on a friday night after not working for the last three days and getting hammered before the Astros game. So Jilly will not be joining the party today. So it's just me. Jim Mudd's going to be here in a little bit. Just cracked open a Coors Light. But just because Jilly's not here doesn't mean that the rules don't apply.

I've got what's left of this Pickers vodka bottle. I mean, this thing was basically full on Independence Day, and we got lit on that. I got some Tito's. I got some other stuff if you guys get crazy, but you know how the game is. Every $100, we do shots. Jim Mudd's going to join us.

I've also got this awesome Sammy Hagar cup that Jilly had made for me from one of her friends that makes these tumblers. It's like a metal tumbler, maybe a Sammy Hagar one. So that's exciting. But I got some silver bullets. I got some Luke Bryan beers. Do you guys have these Luke Bryan beers in, do you guys have these in Texas or anywhere else? Let me show you these. It's my favorite beer and it's very simple. It's crushable, especially when it's a hundred degrees out. This is a Tulane American Golden Lager. It's this Luke Bryan beer. It's really good. And I would urge you guys to check it out if you can. I don't know if they have it where you are. If you're listening to Nashville, I know they have it. I don't know if they have that in Houston or wherever else they may have it, but it is awesome. And I would urge you guys to try that. So,

but the mountains are certainly blue on these Coors lights. I got some shots to do and we're going to call Jim Mudd here in just a minute. So this is good. Glad you guys are with us, but that's why we haven't had, we had only one podcast this week is because Monday, Jilly didn't know she had the Rona. So we're drinking, having a good time. I think she took a test on Tuesday, found out that she had the Rona. Then I took a test right after her and I have tested negative. I've tested.

So I don't have the Rona as far as I know, and I haven't felt bad or anything else. So that's where we stand. But man, glad to have you guys in. I know that people are bitching about all-star game stuff. I see TXGamer42 says Jordan got screwed. I haven't seen the list yet. Like did Jordan not, is he not starting? Is he not like, you know, I don't know what the issue is, what the situation is. I don't know if he started or not, or if he just didn't make it. There's no way he didn't make the all-star team i'm guessing he's just not an all-star starter would that be my guest on that or my guess on that one i don't know uh but also we got spank and slap it my man's been drinking i bet you

the mountains are blue at spank and slap its house otani and trout are the most worthless players in mlb who cares if your team never does anything i actually tend to agree with that uh because they're pretty much nothing. If you're not on it, like basically if you're not on a team that's any good, what does it matter? You know, like Jordan Alvarez is one of the great hitters in baseball, power hitters in baseball right now for a team that's really freaking good. And when they lose, you're shocked, you know, like the angels have been the most worthless organization based on the money they spend.

The Pirates are worthless. The Royals are worthless for the most part over the last 30 years. But when you look at teams that actually spend money legitimately and don't win shit, the Angels are the best at that. Now, I will disagree with Mike Trout

being worthless to a degree. Mike Trout's a very good baseball player. But Mike Trout has played for nothing but shit teams Trout's a very good baseball player. But Mike Trout has played for nothing but shit teams. And at some point, you got to stop blowing a guy because he plays for shit teams. Most of the time, your all-time great players are going to play for organizations that are actually winning. If you're that good, very rarely do you see a team that is just god-awful that has a superstar awesome player, but that's the Angels. The Angels have had Mike Trout for a decade, and for the most part, they have been worthless. But like,

Albert Pujols, when he played in Anaheim, they were worthless. When he played in St. Louis, it was a really good organization. Barry Bonds, pirates were good when he was there, giants were good when he was there. Like, A-Rod, other than the Rangers, A-Rod, everywhere he's played, they've been good. Why? Because he's a transcendent player. Those are the kind of guys. And even guys like Bryce Harper. Bryce Harper was on winning teams in Washington. He's not on winning teams in Philadelphia, although they've had a good month.

They're not a winning organization really since he's been there, and they've been bad for a decade. But generally speaking, when you've got a transcendent player, a good player, you've got a guy like a legendary type player, that player should not play on a bad team for a decade. But that's kind of where we are. That's what you get with Otani. And like, I don't know why Jordan, like, I don't think it's not a Houston thing. Like, I think people live in this world where they're like Houston gets shit on like you got a bad break there because Jordan's really fucking good and Otani's the DH and Otani's the flavor of the week guy and he's very good and he plays two positions and he can hit and he can pitch and like there's all that so like I don't think it's an anti-Houston thing I think a lot of people like to go with that angle and say oh it's because these people hate Houston they're anti-Houston I don't buy it's an anti-Houston thing. I think a lot of people like to go at that angle and say, oh, it's because these people hate Houston.

They're anti-Houston. I don't buy that it's anti-Houston shit because Jose Altuve is an all-star starter, right? So it's not anti-Houston. But what's interesting about the Astros is other than Altuve and other than, I mean, I guess you would throw in Jordan, obviously. They're winning so many games. And you would look at most of the guys in the roster and go, yeah, they're probably not all-stars, and they're probably not household

names, yet they're going to surpass the Yankees at some point and become the top team in the American League. I believe that because their schedule is just dog shit. So that's going to happen here. But anyway, let me see if I can get Jim on the Skype here. Feel free to throw in some donuts. I'll post the link up there if you guys want to throw in a couple bucks for this Friday night party. Every time we get to 100, we do shots, and it's just going to be me doing shots tonight. Got what's left of the Pickers. I got Tito's.

I got all that. Let's see if I can get old Jim on the line here. See if this actually works. Let's see if I can get old Jim on the line here. See if this actually works. Let's see. Jim Mudd. Let's call Jimmy. Jim? I just texted him like a minute ago. I said, hey, I'm going to be calling you, bud. Jim?

Jim, is it you? It's me. Is it you? It is? Where the hell? Let me see. Let me pull you up so everybody can see you or whatever. Hold on.

Let me see if I got this right. Oh, wait. I might have done that one wrong. Hold on. So I'm off to a rip-roaring start with you today, Jim. But what's going on, buddy? How are you? Good. Good. How are you? Oh, I'm doing lovely. I'm doing very lovely. So how's life? It's good. It's good. My battery died in my mouth right as you were calling. How does that happen, Jim? I don't know. I just wasn't prepared, I guess. I'm really having a hard time hearing you. You're having does that happen, Jim? I don't know. I just wasn't prepared, I guess.

I'm really having a hard time hearing you. You're having a hard time hearing me? Yeah. I don't know why. I should be fine. I don't know why that is. Let me turn up my volume. Yeah, turn up your volume, Jim. Oh, that's better.

It's funny how that works. Yep, that's funny how that works. Where's Jilly? Well, Jilly, fun fact, Jilly has the Rona. Really? So Jilly hasn't really gone to work or anything the last handful of days. Okay. So, yeah.

So Jilly didn't think it would be wise to just get on the old interwebs today and be drinking some alcohol. It's like, I haven't worked in three days. It's like, hey, I haven't worked in three days it's like hey i haven't worked in three days uh and uh yeah so now people are requesting your volume be raised jim like i've got you turned up as loud as i can have you turned up okay so i need you to turn your microphone up even if it clips a little bit the people need to hear is that better i go a little bit louder how's that okay that's clipping jim that's way too loud you need to turn that down i thought

you were a professional i thought you were a professional broadcaster here's the thing it's at the same level as i had it last time i talked to you i haven't changed the level yeah i don't know why the uh the volume is what it is i don't know why that's the case but you know just did i don't know yeah i don't know jimmy yeah because last time you sounded so nice and now i feel like i'm talking to you and like in a can with a string. Really? Yeah. Boy, that is bizarre.

I don't know why that's the case, Jim. I don't know. I don't know either. Maybe because you're in Nashville. Yeah, I don't know. For whatever reason. Long distance, yeah. You know what it is?

I think it is. I think you've solved it. It's also because I'm very mediocre at all of this shit. So I think that that's, I would argue, that my mediocrity is what's gotten us to this point. Somehow I haven't been able to figure this out. Out of all these times that we talk and we have these conversations and everything is fine,

yet all these times I've never been able to figure out how to actually get you and I connected on here. I don't know why. I'm mediocre at life. Well, what about when you have other guests? Very rarely do I even have, like, it's, I tried something a different way today, Jim, and I think I, and I might've screwed it up in that way. Why are you always trying different things?

Why don't you just be happy with what you have? See, that's a good point you bring up, Jim, while we're having a, you know, self-help situation here. Because, like, you could say that about a lot we're having a self-help situation here. Because you could say that about a lot of the shit that goes on in my life. But yes, I don't know why I fiddle with these things, Jim. I apologize. You're a tinkerer. That's the problem. I am a tinkerer. I am a tinkerer at everything in life. I wish I wasn't a tinkerer. I wish I was better about that kind of stuff. I wish I didn't have to correcterer. I wish I was better about that kind of stuff.

I wish I didn't have to correct things all the time, but I do. And that's one of my great downfalls, Jim. Well, you know, you could turn that into a strength. Like Eddie Van Halen always had a tinker with his equipment through his whole life. He was always trying to improve and, you know, he succeeded mostly. It's just maybe he had more genius. I don't know what the deal is, but you should turn this weakness into a strength. But here's the thing, Jim, I've not been able to find ways to turn my weaknesses into strengths yet in life. It's easier said than done. Tell me, then what have you done? What is your weakness? Eating giant bags of M&Ms? That like, have you turned that into a strength yet? Like, we used to talk and you'd go. That has been a strength for years. We used to talk and you'd go, you know, I sat on the couch and before you know it, I

had eaten an entire giant bag of M&Ms and I go, well, that sounds like a strength. Yeah. Well, you know, Dusty and I started watching what we were eating. She's counting carbs. And I said, no, I'm going to change my life. I'm going to change my lifestyle. I'm going to eat less. So I started drinking these protein shakes in the morning.

You're doing this now. This is what you currently do. Okay. Well, hold on. As of last Monday, last week Monday. So I drink a protein shake for breakfast, solid for lunch, and a small helping of whatever she makes for dinner. And she's making better food for dinner because we're both in this together, right? We're going to change our lives.

And then my birthday hit yesterday and I'm like, meh. And then, so today she's like, are you back in your diet? I'm like, you know what? No, because I get a full day of my birthday celebration tomorrow. I somehow worked that into the deal because my birthday landed on a workday that Saturday is my full day birthday celebration around the house. And then so I might as well start back Monday. So Monday, I'm hot and heavy back into this changing my life. I see. I see. I mean, at this time. See, we all do. I always say, hey, you know what? I'm not going to gamble anymore. I'm not going to

do this anymore. And you know what I do? I end up gambling. Are you allowed to gamble on foreign basketball yet? Oh, I do that. And that's the thing is I don't want to. Like, it's a weird thing, Jim. Like, I think I need to make a decision to where I say, you know what? Gambling's not bad. It's only bad.

Like, here's what I knew. Like, today I had a revelation about the shit i gamble on okay i saw this player that the i believe it was the detroit red wings i don't know if you knew this i'm on the radio in detroit michigan okay yes i've heard i do a radio show there in detroit and they drafted some guy and i had no idea who it was i started reading a story about him it's like it's such and such vahagovitz and he plays uh hockey in finland or sweden they say wow he plays in sweden he plays for roggle bk and i go holy shit i know what that is because i have bet on roggle or roggle bk there's a problem there when i when i know because i don't even want like i don't care about the nhl draft, when I know, cause I don't even want, like, I don't care about the NHL draft, but when I know a team that a guy got drafted from that, I know that nobody else will know.

Like I guarantee you the sports guys were like, yeah, I don't even know what the fuck this is. I'm like, I do because they got me a lot of empty net goals when I needed them. Like, I think that, that might be a problem. You know, I like, you know, I didn't need to just stop. Like if I wait, like maybe here's what I think I'm going to do. I have a plan. My plan is to just stop betting on sports for like two months until football stuff starts and then go back and then kind of go back in and do it on the weekends. The pro honestly, my biggest downfall, I think when it comes to this, this gambling James is that I just sit around all day and bet on foreign shit. So I sit there all day and I'm like, well, there's a soccer game going on in Guam. So let's see what happens.

Like, can you pronounce any of the names? What was that? What's your attraction to the foreign game? Because it's what's happening at that time. There's not an American soccer game. So it doesn't matter what it is. There's not an American soccer game happening at one o'clock on a Tuesday. But, you know, based on time differences and shit, there will be a soccer game going on

in like, I don't know, uh, not Cuba, but, uh, I'm trying to think of where some of these I've bet on are like Argentina. I'll be like, like, oh, well there's a soccer game going on in Brazil right now. So, I mean, I can bet on those and that's the problem I run into with that. Like, it's not my intention, like, but I just get bored and I sit around and before you know it, I've, I've bet shit and then I keep losing and losing and losing. And I'm like, shit, Josh, you just lost X amount of dollars and you're a fucking moron. Like, I think I'd be okay. If I just said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take a couple months off, going to recharge my batteries and only do fun shit on the weekend. Like when there's football games to bet on and

not focus on, you know, Brazilian basketball or italian soccer or swedish hockey you see what i'm saying yep i see what you're saying i'm not much of a gambler but the one time i did i i've i gambled in vegas we went to the sports book once and i i put some money down and it really does make a very uninteresting game interesting it was a thursday night it was jacksonville uh and tennessee so So it was a shit show of a game. Yeah. But I decided I was going to bet on some of the what do they call those profits? Yeah. So so like, you know, the first field goal or the first turnover, those kind of things. So I put money down on those. So now now this game's interesting. Now this game

is practically my Super Bowl because I've got, you know, 50 bucks on this game. I didn't say I bet a lot of money, but I bet money. Correct. And then I end up making money on this game. So now I'm like, all right, we're going into a parlay situation. Because now you got that itch and you want to do more. Well, because I came out ahead. I'm like, well, this is easy. I know what I'm doing here.

So we went, it was Hensley and Lopez and Nick and I, we were there for a Mayweather fight. And we were at the sports book and, you know, and Lopez and I were smoking cigars and we were just having a good time in the sports book. It was camaraderie like, uh, like that you might only find in combat or a ball club in the heat of a peanut drive drive. Yep. That's right. So it was a, it was an eight game parlay. Well, that the, here's the other problem is the odds of an eight game parlay hitting are very slim. Like yesterday, I had one that was 10 legs and nine of them hit. Well, that's kind of where my story is going here.

Thanks. So we all picked two. And I went with some obscure games that were up. They had games from everywhere. Anyways, so it came down. We hit the first seven. Now it's the last game and it's uh golden state and the clippers and the clippers had been good at this point in golden state it

was still at the beginning of the year of their that big year they had yep and uh so we we took the clippers and we're like oh boy we're gonna hit this and the clippers were leading all the way up until like late in the fourth quarter and And then Golden State won at the end and we lost our money. Damn. How much would you have won? I think we would have won like 300 bucks each. Look at that. See?

Yeah. And then here's where I get into a problem. Then I lose and I'm like, well, shit, I can't lose. So I need to go win something. And then I might go on a stretch where I win nothing for like 10 games. And before you know it, I'm down like 600 bucks. And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Right.

Now you've got to bet bigger to make up the money you lost correct and that's what's called being a shitty gambler yeah and that's the fucking suckers that these draft kings and everybody else get me in that case you know so like I am the guy like I endorse them I like I I am a draft kings endorser I speak for them and I sit there and I'm like DraftKings endorser. I speak for them. And I sit there and I'm like, God damn, Josh. Really, I'll tell you this. When I was at my worst, so I would get up to do our show at like 4.30. And as I walked Luther over to the park to pee, I'd be looking at Korean baseball. I'd be like, boy, the Sinchi Dragons, these fucking guys. I think they're making a run.

I think they're making a run. I think they're making a run. I like the way this team's built. See, here's where morning radio has really kicked me in the balls, which is what I've done basically since the end of 2016, save for those two years nobody wanted to hire me. But that stretch is you're up at 430, and what do you do? You're up all day. I can't take a nap.

I don't have the ability to take a nap. I can't. Today, I know you do because you're a big, beautiful bear, and you're able to day i can't take a nap i don't have the ability to take a nap i can't like today let's say i know you do because you're a big beautiful bear and you're able to hibernate me i am not so like today i was balls tired it's usually friday is when i get my most tired because it's you know four days of getting up at four i get up at 405 now figure this out when you and i were doing a four-hour show and i was talking non-stop and had to come up with content. And at times it was, you know, 47 minutes of content or whatever. I like, I got out of bed at like four 45, five o'clock I'd roll in. Now I'm talking for two minutes at a time and I'm like, well,

I better get up at four. So like, I don't know if I'm just getting old or what, but I'm getting up earlier and earlier. My balls are falling lower and lower. I'm guessing I'm just getting old. So I do that. And then you just have all day to do nothing. And I can't take a nap. Like today it's Friday. I'm balls tired. So I go lay down after me and Jilly went to lunch. I laid down and I dozed off for about 15 minutes. And when I tell you that I couldn't function for an hour after that, I couldn't. Like, we went over to the farmer's market because, you know, we're affluent. So we went over to the farmer's market to find delicious treats. And, like, I couldn't function. I was tired.

I felt like a zombie. I felt worse taking a nap. Yeah, sometimes, yeah, you've got to get the right amount of time. Sometimes a 15-minute nap is not going to do you any good. And the thing, you know what, I almost think it'd probably be harder to talk two minutes at a time because you've got to really economize your words and you've got you've got to really get your point across quickly where when you were doing you know 20 30 minutes because some of those segments we had were long oh yeah we would do that segment from i think 7 15 to 7 45 or one of those and

it was 35 minutes when i was in philly we by the time that the show was near its end and this might have been why it was near its end we had like 350 minute segments wow like i look back on that i'm like what the fuck what are we doing this is horrible um now you're just stretching out and you're using 10 you know 10 words correct just to fill time well and that's the thing is so, like, it does get harder sometimes and what helps is I do this show, you know, I do this show

that's in Detroit and it's basically live. We record it, but it has to be sent down the line, but I do it the day of. So it's new stuff. And it has to get down. Like live to tape. Basically, yes. It has to be recorded and sent down a line and then it goes to air. And I feel that I'm able to do better stuff because I'll, I'll do that and I'll go, I'll be two minutes or three minutes into a segment and go,

yeah, I'm just stammering here. This is fucking stupid. I'm not going to do this. So I'm out. And, uh, so I'll go back and redo it and be able to keep it tighter and it'll be better that way. You see what I'm saying? And actually, it has helped me. It has improved the content that I do. Okay, that's good. I like that. I like that you have – it's not really a dry run because, you know, it is going up in the city that has, you know, Ted Nugent and Kid Rock and Motown.

And, oh, I don't know, one of the greats of all time, Bob Seger. Bob Seger. Bob Seger. Also, you know what I've learned about Detroit? What? Detroit is one of the great cities for urban exploration. Really? And urban exploration is like dead malls and shit. Well, everything is shut the fuck down in Detroit.

There's a bunch of ghost buildings and shit. And I've just watched nonstop videos on YouTube of dudes going in like, hey, here's this old car plant, and we're going to go explore it. There's one in Detroit that is a radio station that was left exactly like it was from the 80s. And they didn't leave anything. They just left it all and rolled the fuck out. And I'm like, this is the coolest shit ever. I know Detroit, for the longest time, it like a great area if you were a squatter. Because you just find an abandoned house and you just move in and now you've got squatters rights.

And so you're there for a while. So if you're living in Detroit and you're homeless, I mean, that's got to be the thing. We've got to take all these homeless people and send them to Detroit so they can squat in all these empty houses and buildings. That's the, you know what, that's the you know what that's the solution also i'm sure you saw the story the other day about uh there was a wall at a mall and they tore it down and they found out like an intact burger king from the 80s that were just left there i've been to that mall that's a mall in delaware and yeah i didn't know that there was a burger king in there nobody did i guess but how fascinating was that no kidding it's like a you know it's like a time capsule

you know it's like these archaeologists that are going through our you know people like and say i don't know the middle east somewhere and they're just fixing their basement and all of a sudden they find a whole underground city yeah that's wild now hold on i gotta take a shot here because we got a donation from our friend johar thank you johar again every hundred bucks we're doing shots and by we i mean me luther can't have any. Jilly would be very upset. So I'll just take a swig out of the bottle. Why not? First shot of the night.

The night is young, baby. Here we go. Ah! That's good. That's good. What are you drinking? Well, I've got Coors Lights and stuff, but my shot I'm taking is just vodka. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Now, people have asked where Jilly is. To be clear, Jilly tested positive for the rona on tuesday so they told her that she had to sit out basically like four days is now the window the doctor said or really it's even more from when she had symptoms her symptoms date back like to like the weekend i believe but we didn't go anywhere it was like on sunday it was the fourth of july week we didn't go anywhere but she started feeling kind of sick and then she tested and was positive on Tuesday so she probably didn't even have the rona anymore but like she didn't work today she didn't do a show or anything today and didn't do it for three days so she doesn't want to get on here and be like hey guys I'm doing shots when she didn't go to work you know uh for three days and all. She's very

responsible. Jilly is a very responsible individual. She is. I remember that about her. She really kept everything in line. Yep, she does. She's a regular taskmaster. That she is. Jilly, can you come let Luther out? Luther's just standing by the door. He's just like, where is everybody? But anyway, by the way, if you guys did not know this,

James Lee Mudd now works with Michael Berry. What, Jilly?illy oh that's it so jilly does not want to keep coughing on here that's why she didn't get on it she probably didn't even have the watching from the other room wouldn't that be something she's actually keeping tabs and sending me texts saying hey watch it bitch watch that shit you're saying she's like a producer over there she's so uh but works for Michael Berry, probably making more money than I make. Really, Jim, if you think about this, you really hit the lottery. I did.

Obviously, you had to kiss a lot of toads there for a couple years after we got whacked, and you had to work with the veterans and then not work at all and all that. But Michael Berry rode in on his very white horse, very white. The horse is so white. It's incredible. And he runs in on his white horse and says, you know what, Jim Mudd, I'm here to save you. And then now you're here.

From what I understand, you're rich. You drive like a Tesla now. This is very impressive stuff here. You're thinking about leaving your wife because you make so much money. These are just things I've heard. I don't know if these things are true. I read them on message boards. have you on message boards from yep on message boards and i talk about it on aol instant messenger aol instant messenger i tell people all about it you know dusty's been with me through the thick and thin from when i was poor as

hell so i'm not going to leave her while i'm rich. You know, but you should think about it. I should. Well, here's the thing. Now that I'm rich, I could have a side piece. And what's Dusty going to say? She's going to say, I'm leaving you, Jim. She can't leave you now while you're in the money. That's right. Once you're rich, she can't go. You know, and also like say, I think that's part of the thing when you win the lottery, when you sign, you know, your forms, it says now that you have this kind of money that you can have an affair legally it's almost like when dewey got married to two people because he was rich and famous see and that's what you should do i think you should throw that at dusty now she'll say jim i didn't sleep around on you when i was the breadwinner and you say that's because you're a woman and there are different rules that we must abide by here have you do you not know

roe v wade it's been overturned okay so i don't know what that has to do with it yeah that's what that means because my guess is dusty does not know what roe v wade was anyway so you can you can tell her listen dusty roe v wade it's now basically roe v wade now says that i can step out because i am the higher earner in the home yes and then she'll say but what about me? I'm a woman. Could I have done that? Nope.

Roe v. Wade states that only if the man is the higher earner, may he step out. If the lady is the higher earner, she must continue doing lady shit and also be the breadwinner, but not step out. They don't call it Hovie Wade. If it's Hovie Wade, then you can step out as the lady in the relationship. Exactly. Speaking of all this kind of stuff. So this is something you might find interesting. And I don't know if you guys discuss

this on the Michael Berry show. I don't know if you guys talked about this, but apparently there's this, uh, this Republican dating app that's being, um, uh, made produced. Oh yeah. I've heard about that. So it's called the right stuff. Okay. Is actually what it's called. And it is a site or an app where people go to find like-minded right-wing individuals to date or to have relations. Now, I'm guessing not premarital relations. No. I would imagine not. We don't want to have any of that.

But they're going to find conservative love. So, uh, that's what they're doing. So I don't know, like, you know, what people are looking for. Like, Hey, do you, do you want your, what do you looking for someone to bite a, my pillow when you're banging? Well, good news. Uh, come on into the right stuff, baby. Here we are now. If, okay.

If I'm looking for a celebrity sponsor because it's the right stuff do i go with like a buzz aldrin nope you go with a lenny dykstra is who you go with so like you get because lenny dykstra is a hardcore right wing trump guy on on on twitter i don't know if you follow him or not i do not but you guys should get him on the michael berry show and he'll tell you all about how he fights with richard marx and how good is at eating pussy. He'll tell you all those good things. And I think that no teeth. I'm sure he is. I would,

I think it would fit the sensibilities of your radio program. Yeah. So like you got my, let me tell you about church and Jesus. And then, and then like, and former baseball, all star Lenny Dykstra is on like,

Hey nails, what's going on? Oh, not much, bro. Just eating pussy, bro. Just eating pussy, bro. Just eating lots of pussy. Let me tell you something.

Nails eats pussy better than anybody, bro. Eating so much pussy, I'm shitting clit. Exactly. That sounds like something he would say that does. And that would be outstanding. So, like, I think you should pitch it, at least. Like, I don't know if you pitch guest ideas or not. I don't know what your whole role is.

Yes, I do. So you go in there. I'll write this down. And he's like jimmy i don't know if he calls you does he call you jimmy jimbo he sounds like a guy that'd call you jimbo i don't know why it depends on what i've done so he'd go in so what do you mean so if you've done something good is he like boy jimbo good job producing that audio of bad and uh and then if you mess up he's like god damn it jim fuck james what the hell man like all of a sudden he's you mess up, he's like, God damn it, Jim. Fuck, James. What the hell, man?

Like, all of a sudden, he's out of character, and he's like, listen here, you little shit. Nobody makes the Michael Berry show look bad. You want to make somebody look bad? I'll send your ass to MSNBC real fucking fast. And then, like, somebody walks in, and he's like, that's right, Jim. Church on Sunday.

Then we're having chicken. Then you're coming over to have some chicken. The door closes. So when he calls you Jimbo, what have you done? Jimbo, obviously that is a pet name that I've gotten from many people, or Jimmy. Vandermeer, I was always Jimmy with Vandermeer. I've been Jimmy or Jimbo or Jim. Never James with Michael. To be honest, Michael's never chewed me out.

Really? You know who would chew you out? Lenny Dykstra. He's a very even-keeled fellow to work with. Oh, you said chew you out. I thought you said eat you out. No. But Lenny Mike.

He's never done either. But, yeah, that's the thing. Like, if you follow Nails, he has this great beef with richard marks it's an incredible back and forth where richard marks like calls him fucking stupid and all this for whatever reason richard marks just won't block him or mute him like they clearly hate each other and for whatever reason it's like if you said josh think of two people that would have beef like just i want just two randos like you could put them in an auto generator and just pull out two names it would never come up richard marx and lenny dykstra

but they do they have a serious beef with each other and it's fascinating like if you're if you're playing jokers wild and you're pulling that big lever and now what are the chances that either richard marx or lynda dykstra know who the other person even is? Well, the thing is, Lenny knows a lot of shit because Lenny's kind of a pop culture savant. Really? Yeah, it's fascinating. So, like, basically, he'll just shit on Richard Marks for being all liberal and shit and then post old pictures of Richard Marks when he had a hair helmet in, like, 87. And make fun of, like, why don't you keep holding on to the Knights, bro?

And then he'll go, well, I want you to fucking go find your teeth in a dumpster. And like, there were times that I was so close to jumping in. I just didn't feel like getting harassed by these psycho liberal people that are all over his shit. So like, I wanted to be like, now listen, I like both of you. I want to be very clear. I'm, I'm friendly with Lenny. I do not know know you personally richard marks but i disagree with him on your catalog i think it is just fine yes i'd love to three three women listening to your catalog well there was

dude so richard marks is pretty savage on social media and like people if they fuck with him he'll just go back at him it's pretty wild and at one point someone's like who even are you richard marks and he goes so and i'm paraphrasing but he says something along the lines of i'm the guy who wrote all those songs your wife used to fuck her boyfriend too like the fuck richard marx that is some savage shit like holy shit like richard marx hair helmet and all tight jeans bulge everything he's like hey like, hey, listen, asshole. Guess what I did? I recorded music that your wife cheats on you to.

What? Damn, Richard Marks. I think if you're Richard Marks, you've got to have that attitude, right? Well, you can't give up until you're satisfied, Jim. That's well documented. Yeah, it is. You got to hold on to the Knights, brother. It's in the Constitution. And here's the thing, though.

Lenny comes at him. You know what he says? He says, listen, that don in the Constitution. And here's the thing, though. Lenny comes at him. You know what he says? He says, listen, that don't mean nothing. The words that you say don't mean nothing. The games people play don't mean nothing. No victim, no crime. Don't mean nothing until you sign it on the dotted line. And I think that's what he's got to tell Lenny.

But, like, Lenny, hardcore right-wing guy, like, he and Tony Bruno and guys like that are like in your face like they fight everybody on social media and like Lenny but the thing is but people think Lenny's racist but like that time that we just called him randomly on the podcast and he said bro you Pearl Harbor me while he was fucking an Asian chick like I think I think that that confirms he's not. Yes, I agree. Well, there's a couple of things Lenny has done. He has a beef with Ron Darling. Ron Darling has basically said over and over that Lenny Dykstra is racist.

Lenny Dykstra comes back and says things like, I'm friends with Daryl Strawberry, and I think he's got a beautiful dick. And like, so how could I be racist exactly and I'm like I can't argue that I can't argue with him when he says this shit no how can you you can't you know what maybe you have to give this Lenny Dykstra a chance I don't really know him as well as you do obviously but he seems like he'd be a fun guy to hang out with he seems like a guy that like you meet up with him on a friday and then by monday at like three in the morning you're standing in a drive-thru with a jack-in-the-box and you've had everything stolen from

you and like you've got like a pet llama with you but it's not your llama you're like how did i why is there a llama here bro you don't remember how we got the llama no how the fuck did we get this and why are we walking through the drive-thru a jack-in-the-box and you don't remember saturday at all. No, and that's what I think a night with Lenny Dykstra would be, or just a weekend. It would start with, hey, I'm having dinner with Nails at, like, you know, some high-class place like a Chili's or something,

as something he can afford. And then we go, and then before you know it, like, it's Monday at 3 a.m., and we're walking through the drive-thru at Jack in the Box, and there's a llama there. And you're like, why is there a llama? See, that sounds like a lot of fun. I don't think I would survive it at 51. But now, did he lose all his money?

I'm pretty positive he did. Do you remember that he was on an episode of Real Sports over a decade ago, like 15 years ago, and they're like, wow, Lenny Dykstra is some sort of savant who is a big money guy in car washes. He had a bunch of car washes. He had like a helicopter and he was all rich. And then he's in jail like two years later. But like you just knew it was too good to be true.

But I don't believe he's got a ton of cash. How did he end up in jail? Oh, it was some sort of like, I don't know if it was a Ponzi scheme or a tax thing or something. Was he like the leader of this? He's a white collar criminal, I believe. Now, in fairness, he's also been arrested for blue collar things. But last time I checked, oh, this is what I wanted to chime in with Richard Marks. So Richard Marks was shitting on Lenny.

He's like, well, I've never been to jail or had to dig through the garbage to find my teeth. And I wanted to chime in and be like, Mr. Marks, big fan. But I do have to interject and let you know that Lenny has not been arrested for like two years. So I feel like I should tell you this because every year on his birthday, it is requested that I leave a video message for Lenny to say, hey, congrats on X amount of months not being arrested. So Richard, that's dated joke material you're using. Use something more current, please and thank you. And I bet he can eat better pussy than you can, Richard, that's dated joke material you're using. Use something more current, please and

thank you. And I bet he can eat better pussy than you can, Richard Marks. So there. You know what? Richard Marks plays a wind instrument. I know you think, well, because he plays this wind instrument, he could probably suck dick. But I bet you. That is actually not what I thought at all, but okay.

But I bet you he's got a lot of dexterity with the lips and the jaw area. I bet he could just go to town for a while. What, Richard Marks could? Yeah. Well, the two of them combined make a real force. One of them can eat pussy because he has no teeth.

They just combine their forces. See, that's what I think they should come together. They should come together and they should form this dynamic duo on one hand you've got like the rugged bad boy that's going to just eat pussy like a champ richard marx yeah duh and on the other hand you've got like every bad boy's got a soft side and this guy is going to like sing songs to you and then and then uh and then fillet you is what would happen you know that's a great buddy comedy it is because they're totally like you cannot think of two more opposite people yes

we they've got to have a reality show why this hasn't happened yet uh because because richard marks has a shit ton of money and does not need to yeah but he needs to stay relevant does he not relevant does he really need to stay relevant does he not relevant does he really need to stay relevant do you think richard marx wakes up and he's like fuck i'm not relevant probably not you know who he fucks by the way who he's married to no me neither but i bet she's fucking hot uh no it's is it daisy fuentes is it really i think he's who's one of the chicks that hosted like a newer version of a funniest own videos. I have no idea.

I think it's Daisy Fuentes. He's dead. That's no, it's Danny Tanner. And yes, he is dead. Whatever. DJ Tanner is on Fuller House and she's a god. She's a real holy roller, but she's beautiful. Oh, yeah.

But yeah, Richard Marks is married to one of those hot. It may be Daisy Fuentes. Yep. That's who it is. I'm telling you. and now she's like in her 50s now but still like so richard marx that's by the way jim had a birthday a couple days ago i don't remember i did i wasn't fishing for that i'm just saying my my standards aren't as high as my point understood you you get to a certain age where it's like yeah okay i i can you know i can work around this but you are rich now so i think your standards should have gone up a bit. Yeah.

Did you hear all these stories about, speaking of dudes banging chicks, all these stories about Vince McMahon and the amount of money he's actually spent to pay off chicks that he's had sexual encounters with? I saw that. Dude. But some of these, like you read some of the details of this, and you're like, so he had sex with somebody that was a wrestler and paid him off. I'm like, did Hulk Hogan need the money?

I'm like, did you blow Ultimate Warrior? Is that true? No, but like he's trying to bang these chicks or whatever and then he does. But then he makes the ultimate mistake. First of all, he pays them off. But then he like fires them. Like if you're going to fuck fuck around you can't fire the people you fucked around with that's just that's just a that's common knowledge that's right you

can't what you have to do is transfer them you transferred them down to like nxt or somewhere else even that's a risk now firing them is a no doubt obviously they signed in da's i would imagine so that's why this shit's just now coming out but But if you're going to bang one of these wrestler chicks, and you're the guy that runs the company, you've got to be smarter than to go, well, you're fired. No, because apparently one of these chicks didn't want to have the relations anymore, so he's like, sorry, friend, you're out. And it's like, hit the bricks.

Do we know who this is? No, we don't. But it's fun to guess. I think it was. What year? I don't. I got to see. Maybe some other people have more of the details.

But I would get, probably could have been in the heyday of like when everything was overly sexualized in wwe because like it does make sense now why you very rarely see vince anymore right like it's very right like he was a big time piece of every story you know 15 years ago now he's kind of out of sight out of mind well part of it's that he got old but but part of it's also that i mean he's fucking all these chicks and having to pay them off but there was always rumors about like what was it trish stratus you know i was saying i don't want to say even in case i'm wrong but i think that was a rumor for a while right back in those days but i think it was somebody like trish stratus and somebody in that era that he was boning one of the other great stories that comes out of this is apparently he sent unsolicited nudes to lady wrestlers really so can you imagine like you open up your phone and there's just like

naked 80 year old vince mcmahon all ripped up on roids and shit and his dongs just hanging out now to be fair he doesn't look like an 80 year old man that he looks dude he looks old though in the face he looks old yes Yes. And he sounds old. It does. You know, honestly, I have not watched wrestling, and I couldn't tell you the last time I watched it. You should come to town for Ric Flair's last match. That should be a real shit show.

Yeah. I know I feel like a loser, but I'm tempted to get the pay-per-view just to see this shit show. Yeah, and then it's being put on by your boy Conrad. Yeah, that's his son-in-law. I reached out to uh Conrad's got a podcast network yeah and there are some random shows on there that aren't wrestling like there's one where one of these sports writers from St. Louis does a podcast with cowboy Joe West okay and that the umpire and they and that's on this this network so I said hey I'll reach out to these folks and see if maybe like I could team up with them on something. And I reached out to his guy and

he said, I'll listen to your podcast. Then I never heard back. So I guess if I'm not interviewing, like, you know, one of the Dudley boys for a podcast, it's beneath them. So I will probably not hear back from the Conrad Thompson people about my podcast. Did you follow up? Well, I mean, I reached out, he said, like, you know, send me a link to your podcast. Like, I'm not going to go, you know, harass the guy and be like, hey, what did you think of my podcast? He'll go, sorry, man, we need you to interview some no-name former wrestler. That's what we do around these parts. And hey, it makes them lots of money. But I can't, like, I'm not going to go and just interview some random fucking wrestler every week that I don't give a shit about. If I'm trying to build my podcast and get it out

somewhere and make it, you know, something, it's going to be doing what I want to do and not like, Hey everybody, welcome to, you know, insert random play on words name with random wrestler. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But what is it you want to do? Why? I mean, why did you even reach out if you're not going to interview a wrestler? Because again, their podcast, I asked him, I said, do you branch out and do non-wrestling stuff? Like one of their podcasts, for instance, was the Joe West one. That's not a wrestling podcast.

No, it's not. So I was like, so are you guys trying to do non-wrestling stuff? Are you guys trying to do like broader topic stuff? They're like, yeah, we're always looking, blah, blah, blah. So I reached out and then I never heard back. So you want to do what you're doing now, but probably as a part of their network. Yeah, and I did that to OutKick at one point, too. Now, it turns out there was never an OutKick podcast network.

It never came to be, really, because then Clay ended up doing the Rush Limbaugh thing, and now there's just no podcasts on there. But I reached out to them like two years ago about that, and I was like, hey, if you guys are, you know, because I was just looking for a way to get my name out there more and get more downloads you know i mean because you need honestly that's what you need to do you need to be like pat mcafee who's pretty fucking legendary right now i really admire what the guy's done pat mcafee made his name doing

barstool shit and then parlayed that into what he's doing now i have a goal and my goal is when summer slam rolls around at the end of the month here in Nashville, I need to meet this, uh, this Pat McAfee and I need to wow him in some way. Now, looking at me now, you'd go, how are you going to wow him? You're like 330 pounds. You're a fat lard and all this shit. Like he's not going to listen to anything you have to say. Well, I need to lose about 70 pounds by the end of the month and then i need to like you know and then like i'll impress him be like boy you don't have four chins that's nice you seem like a real upstanding guy i don't know if you remember this but barry used to say this all the time he'd say savant you can't go into the locker room being fat they will not respect you

yeah your shirt looks like it's made by Omar the tent maker. That was one that he always used to use. The chirp. And he's probably not wrong. Like imagine if my fat ass walked into a locker room now. Why would anybody take me seriously? But I need to go impress this guy and then get our podcast.

I'd be like, hey, can we be friends? And then all of a sudden you become a regular on his podcast and you get a million downloads and then you can say, hey, fuck you, you know, be friends? And then all of a sudden you become a regular on his podcast and you get a million downloads. Then you can say, hey, fuck you, my current job. I'm out. And YOLO, right? YOLO. Yes.

So that's your plan is to get out of where you're working now. Well, no, hold on. That's not what the plan is. I want to be clear. The plan is like I am totally content. I know you love your job. I do. I am totally content.

But what I'm saying is that I think everybody's dream in life is to at some point be able to say, you know what? Fuck you. Yeah. And that's it. To have that kind of money at least. Correct. That's all you want to do. You want to say, screw you.

I'm making my own money. I do my own thing. And I'm obviously a long way from that. You know, it might be easier for you to actually get taller than to lose 70 pounds in a month if you if you were to like gain some height you wouldn't look as fat ah i see so you should work on that ah well i thought your friend battle had connections well he does apparently now that's what he claims he claims he's got connects he claims we've got tickets for summer slam for instance i don't know that i believe him jilly's got a hotel downtown and everything she's all excited oh we're going to summer slam when battle comes through with these tickets then i'll know but i i don't buy it yet

i don't totally buy that battles actually got that yep um or is sammy coming to nashville he's going to be here in september sammy already came to nashville a couple months ago uh at the ryman and i got really hammered and don't remember any of the show which is par for the course but see I want to go see him he's going to be in St. Louis next month or in August with George Thurgood you know what let me tell you a situation that I messed up so at one point that we they reach out and they say hey George Thurgood's playing a show in Nashville and he wants to come up and promote it and I'm like nobody wants to hear from fucking George Thurgood's playing a show in Nashville, and he wants to come up and promote it. And I'm like, nobody wants to hear from fucking George Thurgood. Fuck off.

I mean, we're not going to talk to George Thurgood. I don't have that much time. Really, interviews don't work well in the current format. Sure. Because, like, hey, here's 37 seconds with George Thurgood. It's like when that radio station interviewed the Oneeders. Hey, it's the Oneeders. Hi.

All right, here's their new song. Like, that's kind of what that's like so i just don't like to have these guys on because it's a waste of time so um so i didn't do it but then like a light bulb dawned on me like weeks later i go you know josh if you would have just had him up and promoted his show you could have buttered the bread a little bit and said hey i'm planning on coming to see you in st louis when you're with Sammy. Could you maybe hook me up with some ticks for that? Because the tickets are expensive to go see Sammy and George Thurgood. Yeah, you know what?

I looked at them here for September, and they're going to be at the Woodlands. So obviously you've got some decent seats if you want to sit in the lawn. I no longer like to sit on the lawn. I like to sit in a seat. As you should. Yeah, because I'm not a kid anymore, so I want to get in the lawn. I like to sit in a seat. As you should. Yeah, because I'm not a kid anymore, so I want to get in the seats. And it wasn't that bad.

It was like $40 a ticket. Really? Yeah, it's not bad. Wow. I'd like to go see that. If you want to sit close, like the closer you sit, obviously. Like if you get close enough, it's like $90. But if you're in the pit, it's like $1,000.

Well, we're not going to do that. And I know I told you this story, but I was very let down when I went to see Sammy in Vegas. Yeah, but his new set list is pretty sweet. Well, here's the thing. The set list he did the day before I saw him in Vegas was great. So we went on a Sunday, I think, or a Saturday, and the show on the Friday, he had Rick Springfield come out. And they basically just did all 80s shit, like I've done everything for you, and your love is driving me crazy and maybe even eagles fly was in there and it was fucking awesome right well then we go to the next night and it's literally like hey guys we're playing nothing but montrose so i'm like oh fuck

me and i like montrose has got some good stuff they do but it was all like 70s shit and very little van halen very little 80s hagar like i was so bored that i didn't even get drunk at this show the only sammy show i remember every minute of is the one that had the worst set list yeah the set list on they're very heavy on van halen in this one oh good they should be i'd like that you know i have no issue with some rock candy and bad motor scooter i want rock candy correct hot sweet sticky like i'm all for it but like you got to give me the you know the songs that have made you a billionaire like rock candy ain't making you a billionaire the reason why you have like your own fucking island and you're worth

hundreds of millions of dollars and people give a shit about your tequilas and shit is because you were the lead singer of van halen sure that's why like sam Sammy Hagar would have had a nice career if not for Van Halen, if that never happened, but he wouldn't be Sammy Hagar, legendary business dude, Sammy Hagar. So like put them over the top. So play me some fucking right now. Play me a little can't stop loving you. Play me a little, uh, top of the world. Give me some of that shit. That's what I'm real. That's what people are here for. Yeah. That's what I want to see. But I also, you're right. I want to see, I would be happy if it was all Van Halen material. I'd be thrilled. But I would like to hear some, like, Mas Tequila.

I would like to hear some of the earlier stuff. I was a fan of Hagar before Van Halen. I want to hear, like, some Red or, you know, Babies on Fire. I like that. A little heavy metal. Heavy metal. Yeah. I Can't Drive. You've. Yeah. I Can't Drive.

You've got to do I Can't Drive. Yeah, I mean, that's a staple, of course. You have to. That's a banger, that one. But, yeah, so on this tour, apparently they're doing, it was very heavy on Van Hagar, and Michael Anthony's singing David Lee Roth era. Oh, that's good.

Van Hagar song. I tell you, man, I am amazed by Michael Anthony's ability to keep the same hairstyle for 40 years, and it's equally as bad now as it was in 1977. Same hairstyle, same build. Same build. The man is not AIDS. Same hairstyle.

And it's amazing. It's like a bowl cut in the front. It is a straight line. But the bangs, it's amazing. Yes. But by all accounts, the the nicest man have you met him no i said by all accounts by my account but all accounts yeah so it's funny because i got a poster of van halen on my wall from like the david lewis early years this is probably like first or second album and he's got that same you know what he looks like he looks like a dude that was a big wrestler in like 1986 and now does trade shows with my dad. Like, like, like he's

doing some sort of card show in Pensacola and like over in this corner is like Elvira. And over here is like some guy that like is a Hollywood star. Like Kane Hodder is over here. Like, oh yeah, he played Jason in, in Friday the 13th, four, seven and 12. And then there's my dad who's done cartoon voices. And then here's former WCW wrestler, like big something or another. And that's like, he looks like he'd be that guy. Yeah, he does. He looks like he'd be the inspiration for the movie, The Wrestler. Now, how do you feel about a Van Halen tribute to Eddie Van Halen, like the one-off show?

Like the rumor was that it was going to be Alex and Jason Newstead and Joe Satriani and David Lee Roth. I don't know why you would get Jason Newstead. I don't know why you just wouldn't have Michael Anthony. Now, when they talked to David Lee Roth, he said that they were going to get, you know, two bass players. I don't, you know, you don't have to tell, I don't, I don't want it. First of all, it is wrong to do that. Like if you have Sammy and you put everybody but Eddie together and do something. Yes.

It's good. Putting your little petty bullshit out there and like, hey, I'm going to put this guy, this guy, and this guy. Fuck you, David Lee Roth. And by the way, David Lee Roth, like two months ago was like, well, these are my last shows. Come see them. And then like a week later is like, you know, I don't think I'm retired. Like no fucking shit.

Musicians don't retire. How do you retire from something like being a musician? You asshole. Yeah. And normally you wouldn't announce it either. You just show up anymore. Well, I would say it fucks you, but it really doesn't. Cause like I went to the Motley crew farewell tour in 2015 in Philly last week. I went to see Motley crewue farewell tour in 2015 in Philly. Last week, I went to see Motley Crue at a football stadium.

Sure. Farewell and hello. So, like, they're all full of shit, right? I was. Here's the thing, all right? So it was Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Poison, who didn't play, by the way, because Brett Michaels apparently almost died right before the show. So he couldn't play, and I was pissed because that's who I was there to see because I've seen the others. Joan Jett. Joan Jett. And, by the way, brett michaels apparently almost died right before the show so he couldn't play and i was pissed because that's who i was there to see because i've seen the others joan

and by the way she's very good i mean her face looks like it's melting but like she is a great artist like she does a very good job she's arguably the best sounding of any of the people that were there she sounds great really yeah uh but like here's the thing deaf leopard have you i'm sure you've seen deaf leopard at some point because they tour every four minutes every four minutes there's a Def Leppard concert going on somewhere in the world like they never stop but they sound great on Tesla see and I bet that was a good actually fun fact I saw that same concert in 2015 or 16 in Pennsylvania somewhere like in Hershey that's what I saw but they great. Like they sound very good and they pump out their hits. Although they had a weird stretch where they played like new shit. And I'm like, okay, sweetie, nobody wants to hear your new shit. That just sounds

like your old shit. Just play the shit. We know they played nothing new when I saw them. That's the way it should. Well, they just released a new album like a month ago. So they're trying to sell some shit. But like, here's the thing about about um motley crew first of all vince neal's fatter than both of us not a great i actually saw jilly showed me this somebody wrote a review of one of these shows and it was so good that the actual review was well vince neal looks like he went to the discount lane he looks he dresses like he's in the discount section of lane brian and he does he's just a fat guy wearing like kimonos and shit it's very strange and that guy used to be ripped

dude six packs and shit he doesn't look like the same human he looks like if like if vince neal had a bad reaction to shellfish and then it never reversed that's what vince neal present day looks like so like here's what I think they've done because Vince Neil cannot sing like he he sounds like shit and you know and he just makes up words I think as it goes along here's what I think they've done they've gone out and said here's what we're gonna do we're gonna play so fucking loud that you can't hear Vince and I don't know that they've told him that so they've've gone out and they're like, guys, just play really fucking loud. He won't know.

So you can barely hear what he's saying. The music sounds good. They rock. Tommy sounds great. And Mick and all these guys. And Nicky. They all sound great. But he sounds like, you know, shit. I mean, he does not sound good.

Yeah. Nicky Six seems like a guy that would be fun to hang out with, though. He does, doesn't he? He seems like a really cool guy be fun to hang out with he does doesn't he he seems like a really cool guy now that he's no longer doing the heroine yeah yeah have you ever read his heroine diaries no but i mean i know that you know kickstart my heart is about you know him dying for 20 minutes or whatever it was but um yeah wild side basically that was about some gal he was banging some high school girl that was the daughter of some famous Hollywood actress at the time. Wow.

He did not name who she was, but he wrote that song about her. Boy, he rules. Yeah. Actually, that sounds bad. Like, hey, I was banging a high school chick. He's a bad man, and I'm sorry I said that. But it was the 80s. You could bang whoever you wanted.

Yeah, but you know what? How old was he then also? He was probably in his 20s. Yeah, he it was the 80s. You could bang whoever you wanted. Yeah, but you know what? How old was he then also? He's probably in his 20s. Yeah, he's probably early 20s. Yeah, but they put on a pretty good show though. Yeah, I bet they did. I bet they did. I would like to see that show.

I've never seen Motley Crue. I'd like to see it. You should. I've seen them now twice. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the last show I've been to. Probably the one that you and night ranger when we went to see night ranger and dennis de young and the music of sticks

yep which which we left for because nobody wants to hear dennis de young and the music of sticks well we we stayed for lady and i and i he did lady row like right up front and come sail away what else do you want to hear well he looks like a fucking magician when he comes out he's wearing like a vest and like flowing like khaki pant like dress pants and he slides across the stage like his feet was doing for a while there yeah it's like you guys look like weird magicians i'm not here for this and then his wife standing there and then he like she starts talking like why in the hell do i want to hear dennis de young's wife tell me this i don't get two shits about her what is the best stick song the well i really do like lady yeah i like that one a lot um renegade is fun

um off the top of my head i'm trying to think of all of my favorite is that my favorite might be grand illusion oh grand illusion is good because i'm so operatic at the beginning you off the top of my head. I'm trying to think of all of them. My favorite might be Grand Illusion. Oh, Grand Illusion is good. Because it's so operatic at the beginning. Also, this is random. I like Don't Let It End from the Kilroy Was Here album. That's a solid one, too.

And Come Sail Away is fun, too, the way it crescendos. I like the way it builds up. They're going to be in town in August with REO Speedwagon. And speaking of people who've gotten very fat, like very fat, they're also with Loverboy. And my man Mike Reno is fucking large. You know what? I can't say much about being large, but I'm also not Mike Reno.

I mean, this guy was slaying some ass back in his prime. Absolutely. You can't let yourself get that way. And he's rough. Like, he looks like a lesbian. Can he still sing? Maybe. I haven't heard.

Now, my dad is friends with him. Yeah. So I can ask him. Are you sure he's not Ann Wilson? He actually looks like Ann Wilson now. Really? Yeah. With a bandana.

He's Ann Wilson in leather pants. Yes. That's exactly what he looks like Ann Wilson now. Really? Yeah. With a bandana? He's Ann Wilson in leather pants. I like a bandana. Yes. That's exactly what he looks like. Like Ann Wilson in leather pants and a bandana. Yeah. You nailed it. That's a good visual.

It's a great visual. Although there are no good visuals of Ann Wilson, bless her heart. But Ann Wilson's another one. So we were giving away Ann Wilson tickets a couple months ago because everybody wants solo Ann Wilson tickets and like she does a couple heart songs and then just does a bunch of fucking covers of shit I'm like fuck you Ann Wilson sing every one of these damn hits not here for this shit no see that's the thing these people they need to understand why people are there like you know who's really got that shit down? Billy Joel. And he makes fun of that. In concert he goes, I'm amazed that I'm still filling up

a baseball stadium with people despite the fact that I have not made a new song since 1993. Right. It's wild. It is. He understands his audience. He does.

The thing is he can't do new music because he doesn't have new music. Yeah. That's the interesting part about it. You know what? It just dried up on him. That's basically what he said. He said, I have nothing else to write anymore. I am done.

I just realized my camera's been off this whole time. Why didn't you say anything? Because my stuff wasn't working, so I didn't think it was that big of a deal. I'm like, it's just, I just said, like. I look went down and it's like x dot i'm like wait a minute my correct and my camera's off this whole time i haven't seen you but i can't figure out how to get your shit to pull up in my uh my show anyway so i just left it i felt like it was just pointless at that point i thought you were trying to be mysterious i thought you're trying to be mysterious i thought you're trying to be mysterious like look at this guy he's the mystery he's mystery jim yep that's me but no but billy joel

to your point billy joel's fucking awesome in concert i've seen him like three times i have never seen him you need is he he's gonna be at minute made or was he already at minute made i don't know i don't know you know i have a dream i don't like shows at minute made i have a uh yeah me neither but that's don't like shows at Minute Maid. I have a, yeah, me neither, but that's the only place you can see him. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't go on tours and play arenas. Like, he'll play Madison Square Garden, and that's pretty much it.

And then he'll play baseball stadiums. Because we once saw the Eagles there. Yeah. And we were in this, we were in, like, the suite area. We were still over at 790. Emily and I went and the sound was really good but i you could not see them and they didn't have a large screen like they weren't up on the scoreboard or anything which you would expect right yeah and so and you so you

can't see them literally like you cannot see the people on stage but you could hear them yeah like that part sucks i agree with you on that yes it does now we did see taylor swift there i did too yeah yeah but she did come out to like the home plate area so you know that's one thing that she is good at is going out to the back to the to the unwashed masses to the people that couldn't afford the good seats yeah i um but i i miss well i miss the show obviously that we did. Now, if you guys really want me to start emoting, you can throw in some donuts. I just put up the link. I still got vodka to drink over here, but this is the part of our conversation when I tell you that I do miss the

show. And you know what I wish would happen? I wish like, like, like there are really no good sports stations in Houston, right? They're all AM dinky stations that, you know, no one cares. Uh, but like, I, like, I feel like if there were a rock station, like a classic rock station, like, cause my goal in life is at some point, like the arrow used to be, I know that there is a classic rock station there and it's the Eagle and it's on a split signal, but who gives a fuck, you know, uh, if there were a, like a legit classic rocker, I think I could go there and do pretty well. But like, that is my goal in life is at some point to just live back in Houston. It's a weird goal to have, but I love Houston and most of my friends are there and I just love the place. It's a fun town.

It is. Well, what do you do? Like, what do you do? It's a fun town. I go out and hit the streets. I'm Jim Mudd. I'm about to head on to a hookah bar after this is done. Well, let me tell you, let me tell you what my schedule looks like i get up at 5 30 i i either shower the night before before i go to bed or i shower in the morning usually the night before because i like to allow myself a little time for snooze so i might hit the snooze button so what time do you get up 5 30 oh boy so whenever we were doing the show together and you had to drive in from a task of C to what time were you getting up? 320. Jesus Christ.

Every day you were getting up at 320. Again, to the initial point of this, your fucking life rules now. You're making more money than you did, although we made nice money and you made endorsements and shit there. So all told, you probably made more at 790 than you do now. So did I, obviously. Yeah. But, like, your life rules. You get up at you know whatever time you want to get you know you get up you roll in because all your work is done from home

yep you're living bro like all these years it only took you 50 years to really live the dream which is have to do very little never have to leave the house and get paid more than you've ever gotten paid yeah now i to be i do work hard and i work a lot of hours. It's okay. It's okay. I'm not lying. I feel a lie and that's okay. And that's okay. And that's incredible. That's okay. But I feel that we're telling some half truths here, Jimmy. Okay. So yeah, I come down, I tried to get down here by six, um, or maybe a few minutes before, cause minutes before because I let the dogs out. I got to go out there and I got to put water in the bowl because it's hot. But they're going out there like right there at the crack ass of dawn,

so it's not hot yet. So I put some water in the bowl and I put some food in the bowl for Ghost, bring Marty back in because Marty doesn't like to be outside all day anymore. He is now the dog that sleeps on top of all the pillows that are in the couch. How old is Marty? He'll be nine. Boy, we got old dogs, don't we? Yeah.

Yep. So we got an old man and a puppy in the house. And then I usually work. It varies any time from three to maybe six. So I put in some long days. And that's all right. I actually enjoy it. It doesn't feel like work.

And then I leave the house maybe once, maybe twice a week. We'll go to church. I'll go to the cemetery to visit mom, and then I'm back home for a week. This is an interesting question, Jim, and I'd like to have this discussion. Yeah. So you go visit your mom's headstone. Do you talk to the headstone? Well, she has, she doesn't have a headstone and she's got the marker. Okay. Whatever. Like that's what

I meant. Like a marker. So I don't talk to the marker, but I do. But if it were a headstone, would you talk to it? I talked to her. So like, I find that interesting because like, I see people who take pictures. Like my dad sent me a picture of him by my grandma's headstone once and i'm like yeah like like dad she's not smiling um like that's a very interesting conversation though so like so what do you say to your mom whenever you're just like you go visit your mom and obviously this is a new thing your mom hasn't been gone very long but like so what do you say in march so what do you say like you go to the how? Like you go to the, how, first of all, how often do you go? Uh,

once a week. So once a week you go visit, like, do you almost feel like guilty if you don't? No, I don't. I, I want to go.

And it's, it's not far from where we go to mass. So we go to mass and then we'll, we'll all, you know, we'll drive over there and dusty and I, and the girls that they're with us. And,

uh, we'll stop by. Um, now 4th of July, I went out there by myself because I hadn't, I hadn't gone by myself and I just wanted that time alone. there and dusty and i and the girls if they're with us and uh we'll stop by um now fourth of july i went out there by myself because i hadn't i hadn't gone by myself and i just wanted that time alone and i brought my lawn chair and some tea and a cigar and i sat there and smoked a cigar and hung out with my mom are you like you're like fucking rocky and rocky balboa like you hide a chair up in the tree said like you just grab it out of there and go visit and have a long

conversation with adrian tree's too tall so just to be clear okay just to be out of there and go visit and have a long conversation with Adrian? The tree's too tall. So just to be clear, okay, just to be clear. Yeah. So you go sit in a chair and smoke a cigar and talk to your mom? Yeah, I do. What do you guys talk about? Well, I talk about whatever I want because she doesn't respond. She's very aloof. She's very standoffish.

You know what? She used to be very talkative. Something's gotten into her it's like that that meme where like the stick figure is poking the the things do something you're like hey mom like can you can you send me a sign can you give me anything um now my dad goes out there he'll spend three or four hours out there on a sunday morning he and daisy he'll take the dog out and he'll just sit there but that's the thing is i feel like I feel bad for you, obviously, because you lost your mom and that's not good. But like your dad, but like it's got to be tough because your dad and your mom were together for how long?

51 years. 51 years. So like what happens when you're just not with someone anymore? Like are you sad or is your dad going out and getting ass? Like what happens? No, he's my no, my uh he he stays very busy uh everything that could be done around that house has been done twice but that just happens to any old guy like my grandpa like they're always mowing the lawn or something or always doing something he's

cleaned the gutters he's mowed the lawn he's trimmed the trees you know all of it uh he's cleaned out the garage you know he's done everything that he can do to stay busy you've got to stay busy that's the key you've got to stay busy and keep your mind occupied because if you sit there and dwell on your loss then that's when you're going to drive yourself crazy and you know and he my my brother-in-law he's part owner of a commercial air conditioning company very successful anyways so my dad went to work for him working out in the shop you know it's just stuff that he just to stay busy. It's not like he really needs the money, but he's supposed to stay busy.

It's interesting. Pinchay Pancho Villa here on the text says, you never did that, Josh? The most natural thing in the world, visualizing and talking to your loved ones when they pass away. I've never done that. But I'll tell you this, and you know this because I think I've told you this, Jim, but basically the only times I would ever talk to my grandma and she's the only person that's died that I was close to, right? Like one of my grandma's died. We weren't all that close. I've had an aunt die, but we weren't really all that close, you know? And

your grandpa died. My grandpa McCoy did die. And so did my grandpa. That was my grandma's third husband, Greg. And we were close. But like the thing is, and this is one of my great regrets, and now we're getting deep here. But one of my great regrets is that when I moved away from Baton Rouge in 2009 and moved to Houston, I kind of lost touch with a lot of people. So I like I didn't talk to my grandma a lot on the phone. And I didn't talk to my grandpa. Like, I remember one time there was a big fight. The Cardinals fought the Reds. It was in 2010, I think. And they fought and Yachty's punching like Brandon Phillips and everything. And my grandpa leaves me a voicemail about it. It was,

I think it was on my birthday in 2010. And I don't even know that I called him back about it. And like, I look at those things and I'm like, you know, Josh, you're kind of a dick and you probably should have done better at talking to people. Like the only times I really called my grandma was when like we had her on the air and I would call her sometimes like in the car, like I'd be driving, but it was more of like a, Hey, it's a filler thing and not really a meaningful thing. Like I wouldn't just call her out of the blue and just say, Hey, I'm just checking in. And I like, I feel like I have an emotional void that I'm not good at. Like, I'm just not good at certain things. And that is one of them. Yeah. But to be fair to you and not to, you know, to absorb all view of anything. Um, but you were in your twenties when your grandma passed away. And when you're in your twenties,

you feel like everyone's going to be here forever, especially because you hadn't really lost anyone yet. You know, I lost my grandma when I was in my twenties and that was, that was the first cut as they say. And that one was really difficult when I lost my grandma. Um, but you know, then you start, when you start losing, like I lost my, all four of my grandparents. Um, it doesn't, I don't want, I don't want to say it gets easier, but you learn how to process it. That's the thing. You learn how to grieve. Grieving is not a natural thing. You've got to learn how to grieve. I'll tell you a regret that I have.

I don't regret a ton of stuff unless I'm looking to just cry and then I'll blame myself for everything when I'm driving, listening to Wind Beneath My Wings. I'm like, you fucking up, asshole. But there's one thing I do have a regret. And so I went to, this is when I was in Philly. And my grandma, it was 2016. So my grandma, my dad calls and he goes, Josh, listen, Grandma Edna's not doing too well.

And first of all, I got a message from my mom a couple weeks before. And they said, Grandma's kind of sick. She's in the hospital, but they're going to see what's up. Then it was, oh, Grandma's got stomach cancer. But okay, fine, whatever. And they're sending me pictures of grandma eating popsicles and all that. And then my dad of all people calls me. I'm at a place called Chickies and Pete's in Philadelphia. It's a sports bar. And I was doing a show on a Friday and my dad, this is a Friday in April, I believe. And my dad calls, he goes, listen, Josh, your mom's not going

to tell you this, but your grandma's probably going to die. She ain't going to make it much longer. And your mom doesn't want to tell you this but your grandma's probably going to die she ain't going to make it much longer and your mom doesn't want to tell you that so you need to find a way to get to Poplar Bluff and you got to go see your grandma right I remember I booked a flight and I said all right I'm going to go to Poplar Bluff I flew to St. Louis you know booked a flight to St. Louis got a rental car Poplar Bluff whatever but before I flew out I was on the air talking about it with Tank and I was like I started just crying about I'm like what do you like in my mind I had built it up like it was going to be in a movie like Forrest Gump's mom is dying but they have time to talk so in my mind I had convinced myself I was like you know what's going to happen Josh you're going to sit here and have this deep conversation with your

grandma but what do you tell someone that you love so much that that they're you know they're dying what do you talk about because in my mind it was a movie a movie. It was, you're going to have this conversation, you're going to walk out, five minutes later, your grandma's going to die, and that's it. That's in my mind. When I got there, grandma was in hospice, and she was kind of semi-lucid, but she wasn't there enough to talk.

She could not talk. She was a vegetable at that point. So when I got there, I go in, and my mom goes, Mom, Josh is here. and I could tell that grandma was kind of saying something like she I think she kind of knew I was there but sort of didn't and remember I hadn't seen her in years at that point five six years so I talked to her but I hadn't seen her right so we're in there and I'm and and what here's what I wish I would have done all right I wish I would have told my mom and my aunt and everybody to leave the room.

And I wish I would have said things that I should have said to my grandma. Because my grandma meant a lot to me for my whole time growing up. And honestly, I was her favorite grandchild. I mean, that's well documented. Ask anybody. Half of my relatives are weird, like cracked out weirdos anyway. And then there's my sister and then me. We were the favorites.

It is what it is. I don't make the rules. Okay. It's incredible. I don't make the rules. Right. But so I wish I would have said, you know what, mom, everybody leave. I want to tell grandma some stuff, but I was kind of embarrassed. I was like, cause I didn't want to emote in front of people. So I was just like, no, I'll just say, Hey grandma, how you doing? And she's not going to respond obviously. And then, you know, I, I went back to my hotel that I had in Poplar Bluff which was like the only hotel and I I'm sitting there and eventually my mom calls and she says hey grandma's gone and I get there and I'm like god I wish I would have said something to go all you know um John Mayer I wish I would have said what I needed to say and I didn't and I wish I cause I feel like she would have at least heard it. She may not have responded, but she would have heard it. And I feel like she needs,

like, I don't know that she needed it, but because I don't know that she did or not, but I feel like I could have said, grandma, like, I love you. And like, you were like, I'm sorry. Like I would have apologized. I would have said, grandma, I instantly regret not calling you more often and talking and visiting you more often and almost using you as kind of a prop on my radio show. Like she enjoyed it. But like, now I look back on it. I'm like, Josh, were you just using your grandma as a prop? Do you not have the, the, the makeup, like the emotional makeup to just have a conversation with your grandma that you have to call her on the radio you know like

is that all you've got you know like i like and i and there's a guilt that i do feel about that now and i don't tell people that usually because i try not to emote around people i i leave my emoting for crying by myself in the car so nobody sees me so that's kind of how i operate but like i feel bad because i gotta do the same with my dad like me and my dad don't talk all that often on the phone but then i'll talk i'll call him on the air and we'll do a bit and then i look back and i go oh shit that's what dad used to do he'd call his grandma on the fucking phone and use her for bits and then i'm like holy shit he'd grown up just like me. My boy was just like me. I'm like cats in the cradle.

More cries. What a fucking mess you are, Josh. Yeah, but here's the thing, though. I think sometimes because you did speak to your dad, it may not have been a deep conversation. Or your grandma when we'd have her on. We had her on a couple times when you were here, and I know you had her on in Philadelphia. But you are speaking to the person. So in your mind, yeah, I talked to grandma. You know what I mean? here and I know you had her on in Philadelphia um but you are speaking to the person so you

you know in your mind yeah I talked to grandma you know what I mean I don't think you should I don't think you should feel bad that you had her on the show and like you said she enjoyed it um and she was good she was great she's a naturally funny person and my mom is kind of that way too she like I wanted to bring my mom to town to interview people on this radio row at the wrestling, uh, uh, show next, but later in the month, SummerSlam. Yeah. I don't know if they're going to do it. Cause radio stations are cheap and have no money and they suck. So I doubt that it'll happen, but like, I don't know. I like, there are things like that, that I do feel guilty about. Like, I feel like I used to be a better emoter. And then at some point I'm like, yeah,

I like, I don't do that anymore and i don't know why that changed but it just did yeah see as i've gotten older the older i get the the easier i am to get choked up um and i don't know why that is when i was younger i didn't really but now that i'm older i don't know if is i don't know if your emotions are closer to the surface as you get older or you're more sentimental like I remember when Danny went to school that night before we took her up to Dallas I cried

my eyes out and then I cried a few times after she left didn't really with Emily I think because I'd already experienced it with Danny now I miss the hell out of her I love her but I'd already experienced it I knew what to expect at this point and you know like now i'm being and i'm interrupting here but like to the point about like moms and stuff and getting emotional over these things so when i graduated high school my dad threw a big party for me because my dad loves to throw

a big party so people will say boy scott you did a great job like i like that's another party for his guy that's another issue i have with my dad is i wonder if he does nice things because he wants to or because he loves people telling him hey you did a nice thing but whatever i'd never tell him that but um and he didn't know how to watch twitch so i'm fine uh but like when i had my graduation he brought in this country singer guy by the name of billy dean and he played in dad's backyard and my mom and my grandma were in town for that. So Grandma Edna and my mom and my whole family were there. Now, fun fact about my graduation is that I graduated from high school, and by the time the graduation was over, I couldn't find anybody from my family.

So I got on my old flip phone. I called Dad. I go, Dad, where the hell is everybody? He goes, yeah, Josh, we decided to leave and go to dinner, so we'll see you later. Like, literally, they all flew to town and before i was even done graduating they had already left well and this is pretty early on in the ceremony yeah they rolled the fuck out take you to dinner no you know what josh has been sitting out there under these lights in that robe he had a walk up to the stage he doesn't do a lot of walking this is June or May

in Louisiana and we're on a football field no right I called I go dad where are you guys yeah we went to dinner Josh we'll see you at home in a little I'm like what the fuck and that's a true story but uh it's unreal but like so this Billy Dean is playing and they they did a song called let them be little right and it's you know one of those type of songs and if you heard it you'd probably cry thinking about your girls and I'm sitting there watching him play this and i'm sitting there with my mom and like we both just start sobbing and i'm embarrassed by this like here i am fucking crying whatever but like i do feel there's guilt i feel about my mom too because my mom i didn't talk to her barely at all from like 1997 until she moved to lou in 2009. And then I moved basically two months after my mom moved to Louisiana to be

closer to me and have Emily have opportunity and everything is when I moved to Houston. So like me and my mom had like a decade where we would see each other twice a year and that's it. And I feel bad about that. And my mom's not very good at expressing those emotions either. So like, we're both kind of like whatever. And I felt bad.

Like one of my guilts is like, hey, I lived with my dad. I didn't make that choice. They made the choice that I was going to live with my dad. My sister was going to live with my mom. That was the choice they made. And I felt like and like and I still feel guilty about that, you know, because my mom, you know, I mean, I didn't live with her for like a decade. Yeah. But, you know, here's the thing.

There's no reason to feel guilty about it at this point because your mom's still here. So you can talk to your mom. You can make that connection now. That's in the past. You can't relive it. So there's no point in even feeling guilty about it. I'm with you. We're having therapy here tonight, Jim.

That's what we're doing. Besides, you were a kid. You were a legit kid. So you should never feel guilty about something you did as a kid or didn't do as a kid. Yeah. No, I feel you. I mean, you're still not quite mature, but you really weren't mature then. No, you're right.

Now, if anybody wants to throw in some donos, I just put the link in there. I've got some vodka to shoot here. A hundred bucks is a shot. Harold asks, why can't we see Jim? I fuck something up. I don't know what I'm doing here. At least you get to hear him. What would you rather? Would you rather see

Jim and not hear him like he's fucking Harpo Marx or would you rather what you're getting now? No, I thought I had it figured out too, but something went wrong. To be fair, Jilly, it's not totally my fault because Jim for like an hour and a half didn't even have his camera on.

I didn't know. So Jim did not know. You didn't tell me. I just flipped it on. I'm like, we worked up. We did. No, I've got it. But for some reason, it's not working on my end over here, and it is what it is.

By the way, Jilly is at the door, everybody. You can't see her. I can hear her. What? Hello, Jills. What, Jilly? I tried something different, I guess. I don't know what happened, but I don't know what went wrong.

I don't know. If Jilly were in there, it would be working. It probably would be, but Jilly, she's now, you know, she's Rona adjacent now. You know how it is. You were talking about when you went to see your grandma. My situation is not quite the same, but it was a Tuesday. No, it was a Wednesday. Um, I went to visit my mom, my, my daughter and I went over there to let people know what was her state at this time. Was she lucid? What was the deal?

She was, um, she was very sick. Um, yeah. For those who don't know, like your grandma or your mom rather had like major, was it liver, kidney issues? No, kidney issues and dialysis. She was on dialysis. So you would go over there and you and your sister would swap like who would stay with your grandma at dialysis. Well, it was my mom, but no. Did I say grandma again?

Damn it. I'm sorry. We would, we would, I would take her on Thursdays. She would take her on Tuesdays and then she she started doing it at home, and my sister was doing it. My sister was doing her dialysis for her, and she would hook her up and whatnot. And I would go visit her if I was off and hang out with her. But this was a Wednesday. And you could see that from the the end of January, uh,

up until she passed, she was progressively like just feeling worse. Like she hadn't left the house. She wasn't doing anything. Um, she hadn't, her cat acts were so bad. She was basically blind.

She couldn't really see anything. Um, you know, she was a, she was a smoker. She would smoke cigarettes, but she couldn't see to light her cigarettes. So my dad would have to kind of like guide her hand or light her cigarette for her.

Cause she couldn't even see that far. Wait a second. So your mom was still smoking cigarettes at this point? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, at this point, like, what are you going to do? Right. Like that's my grandma was the same way.

Like she smoked forever. You know what's interesting, though, about that kind of stuff? And I'll let you finish. First of all, to interrupt the story, thanks to Screw Your Gay Pride for donating $250. So now I have to do two shots and then we're halfway towards another one thank you and also like like when you look at that stuff like did you think like i thought my grandma was invincible like i didn't matter that she smoked and like i never saw her eat anything other than like bologna sandwiches and peanut butter sandwiches and anything healthy she never ate green nothing like in my mind i thought oh i got time nothing's ever gonna happen you know and then boom

like it is true that when people say then you don't know what you got because like i thought everything's fine and then boom within like a month of finding out she had cancer she was dead like that just happens like that you know yeah well my mom had been getting my mom had been sick well she was on dialysis when we were working together the whole, I mean, basically the whole time. So she had been on dialysis for three, four years before she passed. And you know, you could see the decline. She had, she ended up in the hospital in November. Um, she had some clogged arteries and I don't know if that's what put her in the hospital. I don't remember.

But anyways, they wanted her to get a bypass. Well, her doctor and her cardiologist said, no, I don't think you, I don't think with your kidneys and what, I don't think it'd be a good idea. I don't think you'd survive it. So she opted not to get the surgery. And so she was pretty sick up until close to Christmas. And she seemed to recover. She was pretty strong. She was going shopping and stuff with my sister. And, and, um, and then, um, she went to my daughter's birthday

party and I think that was the last time she'd left the house. She'd come over here for my daughter's party at the end of January. Um, but anyway, so that Wednesday, my daughter and I went to visit and I rang the doorbell and nobody answered. I'm like, well, this is weird. I don't have a key to the house. Um, but nobody was answering the door. So I called my dad and he's like, yeah, your mom, I can't leave her because she can't set up on her own. And so she's leaning against me. And if I get up, she's going to fall over. So I'm like, Ooh, that's not good. You know? So I, we went home and I said, well, dad, I'll be back tomorrow. So that morning I'm, I'm working at this point, I'm already working for Michael. And my dad I said, well, dad, I'll be back tomorrow. So that morning I'm, I'm working at this

point. I'm already working for Michael. And my dad calls me, Hey, I know you're at work. Um, your mom fell in the bathroom. I need help getting her, you know, getting her up. So I text, I emailed Michael. I said, Hey, I'll be back. This is what's going on in my life. Let me tell you this, Michael. And, and, you know, he might have a bad rap with some people. Michael is a truly considerate individual, like a nice person. Yes. And, like, just to the point, he didn't have to be nice to you and me. No.

You know, he didn't have to text us during the show or whatever. No, he's big shit. He's big shit over there. The guy's like a billionaire, and he's like their biggest earner. He didn't have to be cool to us. Like, the guys that were nobodies were pieces of shit to us, and the guy that was the biggest somebody they have was the nicest guy we dealt with. Yes. And so I let him know I'm going. And so when I get, so I go and I help her up, I help my dad and I help her up and we put her on

the couch and she's in good spirits. I'm like, mom, soon I got to work. I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna hang out with you. You know, I came over yesterday, but you weren't feeling well. So I went, I got off work. I come back. Michael's like, how's your mom? And all that. I'm like, she's fine, but I'm going to go after work and go hang out with her. So I went, I got off work. I come back. Michael's like, how's your mom and all that. I'm like, she's fine, but I'm going to go after work and go hang out with her. So I went and I spent a few hours with her and you know, she would, she liked Bobby Flay. So she would, we would turn on food network and she would listen. Yeah. And, uh, so we would, we would talk and we talked for a while and he was getting late.

It's time to go about time for dinner. So I said, Hey mom, I'm gonna get going. So I love you and all that. And, um, i left next morning my sister calls and she's like yeah it's not good you know dad says she's like she was wednesday again she can't sit up and so about three hours later she calls me again it says mom said call an ambulance i an ambulance. I'm dying. Tell them to hurry. Wow. That's the last thing she said. She never spoke again. No, they, she was unresponsive by the time they got there. It's fascinating that she knows that. People know. It's wild though. You know, that like, she's like, you know what? I'm dying. Like what? Like, like I wonder

what is happening with it. Like what moment were you like, yeah, I'm dying? I know. That's got to be a bizarre feeling. It does. And I think dogs know that. You know, I think humans know that. I think animals know that. But I don't know what that moment is, you know?

Yeah, I don't either. Like, what you're feeling where you're like, uh-oh, like, this is it. This is it. You know, here's a story that's somewhat similar. So Grandpa Ralph, his first wife was Grandma Linda. That was Dad's mom. like this is it but like you know you know here's a story that's somewhat similar so grandpa ralph his first wife was grandma linda that was dad's mom and maybe and also she was the mom of aunt lisa who people question whether or not that's grandpa ralph's daughter or not whatever we got drama in the family who knows uh we're all fucked up uh but uh but grandpa ralph eventually married

a woman named nancy So Grandma Nancy and Grandpa Ralph were married for a long time. And she wasn't doing well. And one day they're sitting in the room together and she has a heart attack and she basically dies right there with him. And he didn't know how to help her. It's just so bizarre like how that happened you know yeah so we we they call an ambulance we follow we follow my sister picks me up and we follow the ambulance because i still wasn't really driving at that point because we had that car accident and it was really difficult for me to drive because i couldn't really move my leg too much so she picks me up and we go to the hospital we couldn't go in because it was still all the covid bullshit yeah um so we sat out in the parking lot and waited for news from my dad well and then the

doctor called my sister and was like did he have to deliver the news to you like it was old school news thing like he comes out with a sign and he's like mom's dying and then like he goes back in like the like the the opening credits of cheers where the guy's holding a little paper that says, we win. Yeah. That's what your dad had to do. No, it was one flair for she's good, two flares. That's it. So anyway, so. It's horrible to laugh, but it.

When she left the hospital, they let smoke out the chimney so anyway so but they don't let my dad back there for like over an hour because we're testing her for covid well we didn't know that they were working on her we didn't know that she'd become so unresponsive they were trying to stabilize her and uh so the doctor calls my sister and uh he's like yeah well we've got her in a coma, like medically induced coma. And I knew that was, I mean, I've never known anyone to come out of it. And my family, everybody in my family, everyone put in that coma never comes out. Yeah. And so that next day, Saturday, we were on the way that we were about to leave to go up there.

My sister called and said she was gone. And so I really didn't get to see my mom before she passed. Literally, I missed her by like 20 minutes. That sucks. You know, like I think that happened to my dad when his grandma died and he was very close to her and he had to drive from somewhere to get to her. But like, here's an issue I have is I like, I don't know what to tell people when something bad happens. Like, like I remember the last time I really had to do that was my grandma i was in high school and grandma edna's daughter aunt joanne joanne died in a car accident and my dad's like you gotta call your grandma i'm like dad i don't know what

the fuck to say i'm a 17 year old doof you know what the fuck do i say to my grandma who just lost her daughter right you know and like so i call and i'm like hey grandma how you doing and she just starts crying i'm like i don't know what the fuck to do like i don't have the emotional capacity to handle this that's why like i feel guilty like when your mom i didn't call you when your mom died i texted you yeah and i'm like god like like i guarantee you michael barry called and talked for like 30 minutes but he has that ability and i like i feel weird like i can't like i'm not comfortable in that spot because in my mind i'm like what the fuck do i know i'm just a fucking doof that says offensive shit on the radio you know yeah but it's not even really even

what you say it's really be there to listen um that's one thing i've learned it's it's a learned thing you're a very good listener, by the way. You would have to be to hang out with me. Cause all I do is fucking talking bitch. Yeah. Well, you know, I've been married for 27 years to a talker. Yeah. So yeah, certainly.

Yeah. So that helps. I've got training. Um, but anyway, hold on, Jim, shut up. I got to do a shot. Hold on. Uh, I got to do a shot. Thanks to spank and slap.

I got to do two shots. I'll do one swig out of the bottle right now Hold on Ah there's one It just touched your lips I could tell You can't tell shit It just touched your lips

That's not true And also Some of the drunkest times I've ever had might have been with you Even though you don't drink. Do you remember that first year we went to that I Heart Christmas party that was at Michael Berry's place? Oh, you got loaded for that, too? Yes. Oh, boy, that was a good time.

What I remember is that you would go get beer, and you would keep one in your shirt. You had a pocket on your shirt. And it looked like you were lactating because you you had this big like wet spot on your pocket because you would just carry around a beer and i remember i remember uh eddie was we would hang out with eddie for a while yeah and he would come up he's like are you are you glad you made the move and i'm like yeah i love it here and i and i did i loved it there can i tell you something i hate about about about me it's like the whole situation at 790 and i heart was a bad situation i think for both of us and i fuck some shit up and i look back on it now iHeart was a bad situation i think for both of us

and i fucked some shit up and i look back on it now i'd like you might say that i'm more mature than i was then i think i'm a little bit more mature than i was then okay but um you may not because all i do is bitch to you about shit now so you might go no josh you're the same asshole but like i look back on that and there's still like this desire for those people to recognize me and and and and and acknowledge that they fucked up or that i'm good and i wish i didn't feel that way like i wish like i like this annoys me but i genuinely like eddie yeah like i liked it well i wouldn't say that but i like eddie did call me my mom passed you't. Eddie did. So maybe I'm the piece of shit. But but like like that's what you work for.

Michael Berry. Like if you were just, you know, pulling your pud working with the veterans, I don't think he's calling your about your mom. Like, no, not to be a dick, but I don't think he's picking up the phone and talking to some guy that got fired five years ago and be like, hey, sorry, your mom died. Like if my dad died, I don't think Eddie's going to fucking call me you know what i'm saying maybe but who knows but like i look back at that and i'm like you know like i like i don't know why i want these people who treated like because i think they treated us fairly shittily at times like i look back on that and i'm like i still like

this person and i want this person to like me. Yeah. Which is weird because this guy was basically called us pussies every day. You know? He did but I think that was also he was busting our balls. Maybe. But like I don't know. I don't know why I want that. He also sent flowers and a plant

to those here. Oh fuck. God damn it. Called and actually I still have the plant I have to water those sons of Both? Fuck. God damn it. Called, and actually, I still have the plan. I have to water those sons of bitches every day. And I'm not going to lie. I lied to you earlier, Jim, because I sent Matt Moscona, I put out a tweet for his birthday, and I said, sorry, Jim, but I texted you.

Yeah. I also texted him, but I didn't send a tweet for you, and I feel like shit. It all comes out. Well, here's the thing. It all comes out. Here's the thing, Jim. Yeah. You and I are like shit it all comes out well here's the thing here's the thing jim yeah you and i are like best buddies yeah i'm always strong i i'm always efforting to get matt muscona's love

because he he and he never gives it to me so i'm a pathetic individual is what i am i have your love so i don't have to kiss your ass i have to kiss his ass because i want his love yeah you know what he is he's a bully he a bully, but instead of just saying, fuck this bully, I'm like, why don't you love me? Like when I see Matt Moscone, you know what song pops into my head? I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt. I'm like, yeah, I don't know what to do.

You know, I haven't texted Matt in a long time. For a while there, I would text him every so often, but I haven't. I need to. I don't really know Matt, but I talk to him every week. We talk to him like several times a week. Yeah, we had a lot of time to fill. And before I knew it, there'd be a 40-minute conversation with a guy who works in Baton Rouge.

Yeah, that no one here had ever heard of. No, but we did. No, he is. Matt's good. He is good. And I like Matt. Matt's a nice guy. I like Matt.

And if I text him right now, he'd be like, Jim, and then we would text for a while. You know who doesn't do that with me? Matt Moscona. I'll text him and go, did you see this? Four days later, oh hey. I'm going to text him happy birthday and see how long we can keep this going. Okay, God, this is going to piss me off because he's going to respond immediately

to you and be like, oh thanks, Big Jimmy. God damn it to hell. He doesn't respond to anything. i'm beginning to think i have no actual friends other than you like you are my actual friend and that's it yeah um so when my mom passed there were four people that would check on me you were one you did i checked on you yes i'm not looking for a pound on the back again i do not have the like i don't talk to anybody on the phone i'm a millennial asshole like i can't talk to anybody on the phone i'm a millennial asshole like i can't talk on the phone with people i suck at and i think you know what i blame my dad

because i get on the phone with my dad you know what happens when i get on the phone with my dad he'll call me and i'll say hey yo dad what's going on hey buddy how you doing just checking in yeah not much and then the second i go yeah not much and then right when i'm about to deliver something else it's well i gotta tell you the shit that's going on with me, man. And then like 40 minutes later, I'm like, you got anything else? I'm like, well, I'm doing well, Dad. Yeah, that's great, but I got to run. Speaking of Scott Ennis, you know, Dusty books travel for these veterans, right?

For the doctors and stuff to go see the veterans. She booked travel for a Scott Ennis out of Hawaii hawaiia so there's a hawaiian scott innes yeah spelled the same way and everything everything yeah wow isn't that crazy jim that's fucking wild yeah yeah i haven't heard back from matt yet but it is still early and it is his birthday maybe he is having relations with his lady maybe he is he's having a little birthday relations those are the best yesterday was my birthday and and because it was a work night i did get to watch what i wanted on television and i got to pick out dinner what so okay let me try to guess here on tell us you get to watch you won't i won't probably we watching like like some sort of western i I did. I watched Big Jake.

Okay, so you watched a way. You love Westerns. I do love Westerns. And I'll be honest, I watch Big Jake every year on my birthday. Okay, okay. Why? What is the story behind that? My best friend growing up was my uncle.

He was like three years older than me, so we were really more like brothers. And that was our favorite John Wayne movie. We watched it all the time. And so after he passed, I'd watch it every year on my birthday and i've watched it every year for probably almost 20 years on my birthday so so then you said i won't guess what you had for dinner is it something that dusty made or did you go somewhere she made it so you didn't go to iguana joe's no no okay so she made you something i'm trying to think of something that you enjoy is it something cheesy no there's no cheese no cheese okay it wasn't steak no steak no it wasn't steak did you guys go to chick-fil-a no we didn't you guys still

made it you guys just try to pimp out the black card just to see if you know it works they're like hey this says 2017 you're like like, no, it doesn't. Fuck you. God, I freak. Hold on. Yep, Matt Moscona. Yo, it was yours yesterday. Now we got a conversation. Wait a second.

How does Matt know that your birthday was yesterday? I had to look at social media to find out both of your fucking birthdays, and this guy randomly knows your birthday. Well, because I tweeted you when you said happy birthday to him. Hey, wait a minute. Oh, that makes sense. But still, geez. Yeah.

So anyways, what we're talking about, my dinner. No, I'll just tell you because you won't guess it. She made me biscuits and gravy. Oh, that's delicious. Yeah. Is that a euphemism? That's not a euphemism, right? No, it's not.

I don't know if that's what you guys call, you know you know like uh eating at the y you guys call it eating pussy bro like i believe that that's what lenny calls eating pussy is uh bro it's biscuits and gravy bro bro come on biscuits and gravy and sunny side up eggs and then i had and i also like to put a little uh little frosting on the on the on the old cinnamon roll yeah i like to do yeah and then i had some nice southern blackberry cobbler bluebell oh so he he had a black lady yeah he was allowed to have a black lady for his birthday that's code that is code is what that is finally i'm like thomas jefferson you're just like it and it wasn't a real black lady it was actually it was dusty and blackface

but um she's like i know you've always wanted this Also, I opened up an account for you on the right stuff. So... Oh, shit. She's like, Jim, happy birthday. I opened... I got you a truth social account. So everything's going to be a okay.

It was great though. You're right. Dusty and blackface. We've turned on BT. Like, listen, I had no idea how much dusty liked Megan, the stallion,

but apparently she does. She does. So it was a really good time. Yeah, we had a good time. So now tomorrow, because I worked on, I worked on my birthday. So tomorrow is, really good time. Yeah, we had a good time. But now tomorrow, because I worked on my birthday, so tomorrow we do an all-day deal.

So I've got the TV all day. I get to pick out all the meals. I get my gifts. All of it's tomorrow. She's making me a cake. You know what I miss? I miss when you used to make me cakes for my birthday. Yeah, and I'd make them for Jilly, too, because you're like,

hey, can you make this for Jillian yeah that's fine and i would say but here's the catch with making jilly a birthday cake bitch doesn't eat icing so i'm like can you make her a funfetti that's why we did cupcakes i said listen for her that's right i said listen jilly does not eat frosting on her cupcakes because she's a lunatic so can you make like three or four cupcakes with no icing and then put icing on the rest of them for you and I? Yeah, hold on. I'm talking to Matt.

Talking to my best friend. Me and my best friend are having a convo. No big whoop. Nobody worry. Oh, shit. Everybody feel free to throw in some. The damn baseball game started. I was supposed to be done by the baseball game.

If you guys want to keep the party going instead of watching baseball, throw in a couple bucks, we'll keep the party going. I think we're 50 bucks away. I gotta do another shot and then 50 bucks away from another shot. Oh yeah. Before you know it, Jilly's gonna end up wandering in here before you know it. Who fucking knows? Everybody's gonna say, hey, we'll put in a grand

to get Jilly in here. Once it's midnight, then it's a whole new day, so it's not a work day anymore. So on Saturdays, she can do whatever she wants. That's true. Now, Spank and Slap It has asked, what does Ramon make if Jim's making bank? And Jim is.

Me and Jim are comparable. But I would imagine Ramon makes $114 million a year. Yep, probably per episode. I think so. Yeah, I have no idea what anyone else makes. It's none of my business. I got to do another shot. Hold on, because I owe them another one. I want to gulp now. Don't let us. Okay. Oh, yeah. That's good stuff. That's the spot. I can't do liquor. I know you cannot. I've been around you. That time that we went to that

Sammy Hagar show, I think it was the Hagar show. Yeah. I got blitzed at Applebee's on Jell-O shots. Yeah, we picked you up from Applebee's and you were already lit. And then I went to hang out with Rod Ryan. Speaking of Rod Ryan. Right in the middle of the show, right? We're all, it's me, you, Dusty, and Jilly. We got a table. We're hanging out.

We're singing along to Hagar. And all of a sudden you're like, I'm going to go hang out with Rod. And you walk over and hang out with Rod for like half hour. Here's what I did a couple of weeks ago. And it was a drunken decision I made on the podcast. So I sent an, uh, an email to Roderick Ryan. And I said, I was like, I just want to say, Hey, and you know, like, I think you do a good job because I do. I admire the success he's had. Like I'd'd kill to have, like, a fucking giant radio show in Houston again because that's my town. Those are my people.

I love the place. Yeah. So I would kill to do that. And I sent him a message about how cool it is and, like, sorry that we never, you know, I never really got to talk with you, whatever. But, you know, I would see him in the mornings on occasion. Like, when he started losing weight, he was eating oatmeal. So I'd walk out into the kitchen area and he'd be making oatmeal in the microwave.

And I'd talk to him for a few minutes, and that's when I would see him, you know? And then I would see, what's her name who died? Not Dana. Oh, God, yeah. Not Dana, but the gal who died. She was on his show. Yeah. So I would see her.

She was a great, you know what? She was super nice. I loved that. Absolutely. Everybody there was nice except Clanton's wife. They were all very nice people. But I can't think of her name and I feel bad. Dinah.

Dinah, yes. Because I got there before you. So I would actually sit there. I would talk to her and Dana and Rod. Like everybody would meet in the kitchen. We're all warming up our shit. What's that? Jay.

Jay. From Dana and Jay. Actually, Jay and I have a mutual friend outside of radio, but, um, no one cares. So anyway, so we hung out with, we would see these people and they were lovely people. So I, I drunkenly sent an email to Rod Ryan about, Hey, Hey, I admire what you do. Like, I think it's pretty bad-ass that you're so successful. that's awesome and I never heard I didn't hear anything back for like a couple weeks I'm like well fuck Rod Ryan what a cunt and then like one day I get an email back like hey sorry bro like I broke my leg I haven't been doing a lot of shit uh but man I'd love to talk with you dude like let's let's swap some stories I'm gonna send me his number I'm like you're cool I like you Rod Ryan I want to be friends yeah you know who I was

texting with the other day? It was Mark Sherman. Really? You know, Drew's eight years old already. Who the hell's Drew? Matt's. Jesus. Oh, I was just talking about Mark Sherman. And you go, oh, hey.

So you're talking about Drew. Wait a second. Drew Moscona is eight years old? Yeah, Drew's eight years old already. Fuck me gently with a chainsaw. That kid's eight? In a few weeks, yeah. And I feel bad

because i've never actually met the kid uh but every now and then matt will send me like videos and he'll go like say hi to josh because mostly it's when we watch the saints the only time matt will talk to me is when we're watching the saints and we'll text back and forth okay maybe he feels guilty because i gave him that tick that mac ticket to the nfc championship game a couple years ago that he and i went to so we'll watch the saints and I'll bitch about the Saints. And he'll text me back. And then every now and then I'll get a video and it's him and his kid. And he's like, say hi to Josh. Hi, Josh. And I'm like, well, hello, Drew. But I've never actually met the kid. But I've known Matt. Matt and I have known each other since 2006 or 2007. And then I knew his wife like i met his wife when they

started dating and they they've been married for like a day another thing i feel guilty about is matt invited me to his wedding back in like 2012 when i got married i didn't go like here's the thing jim while we're having an honest conversation i may be a piece of shit but not like but not on purpose it's almost like in my mind here's what i've convinced myself and maybe it's just a defense mechanism but i've convinced myself that no one gives a shit what i have to say or do so it's not a big deal so like matt invited me to his wedding and me and jilly were dating at the time and we didn't go and i wasn't as tight with mad as i think i am now maybe i am uh but like i wasn't as close with him as i was now and i would go like

oh he doesn't care if I'm there. And I think I tell myself that so I don't feel guilty about not going. That's exactly why. But that's why I do that. Like, I tell myself that about everything. Like, why didn't you reach out to such and say, oh, he didn't give a fuck what I think. And then I don't do it. God, I'm a piece of shit.

Jelly, can you bring me more beer? I am a piece of shit. I should charge you for this therapy. You should. You should put a little sign up. That says five cents that the doctor is in, the doctor is in, but it's true. It is absolutely true. I like, I might be a piece of shit. I don't think you are. I think you hold on, hold on, pipe down. Jilly's bringing beer. What? Oh, bring those in. So Jilly's going to bring a couple

beers. This might be worth some donuts. So last week I accidentally left two beers in the freezer and they became like bricks. So then what I did is I left them on the porch on a sunny day and let them melt and then put them back in the fridge. So I don't know if this is going to taste like a delicious beer or if it's going to taste like a watered down beer. Has anybody ever done this? So these things were like bricks. And then I left them on the patio. They melted. And they didn't explode.

And now they've been in the fridge for a couple days. All right. I'm going to try one of these. Yeah. I'd be skeptical. Yeah. It's probably not going to be good. But throw in some donuts.

I had a good beer the other day. You probably had them. You probably drank them all. But it was the Shiner, the Red Ruby Grapefruit. Jilly, have you ever had the Shiner Red Ruby Grapefruit? You heard that? It's good. How are you hearing this?

Because you're deaf. Oh, yeah, my headphones are very loud. Yeah. I'm standing outside the room. Yeah, that's my angel over there. All right, let me see if this is any good or not. It's going to be skunked, I agree, B. McCarthy. Let's see.

I'm going to try it now. All right. I'll drink it. Okay. All right. I mean, it's not great, but I'll drink it. Yeah. Ah, boy.

I love you. I do. You're like my best but I'll drink it. Yeah. Boy, Jim, can I tell you, I love you. I do. You're like my best buddy. Beer's gotten so expensive. Beer is expensive. See, me, I've also got some silver bullets, and you can get a 12-pack of those for like $12. But back in your day, back when you were hammering some beer.

See, people don't know this about you, but you used to be like a big-time drinker in your day. Yeah, I was like Frank the the tank and then i stopped why'd you stop i just had enough uh but you were really into it for a while i was that's the thing back back when i was a regular drinker i would can i would not stop until it was all gone and which isn't a healthy way to be. See, that's me, though. Yeah, I can't babysit a beer. I just got to go chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug, make you want to holler howdy-ho.

Yeah, I like to drink it before it starts to get warm and all. Yeah, nobody likes warm beer. That's the thing. It's got to be ice cold, and you go gulp, gulp, and it's done. God, I miss you, Jim. I do. I miss you, too. I do. it's done yeah god i miss you jim i do i miss you too i do i'd like july what did you have on the fourth of july bud did you have a little beer on the fourth of july there slugger yeah yes what beer did you have did you have some st

louis beer some milwaukee beer some denver beer no i picked up some corona premium, you had some Hispanic beer. Yeah. Oh boy. Um, and I honestly, it was so fucking hot. It was so hot. Um, I had about, I had four beers and I started, I just, you know what, I'm done. I was wiped out. I was exhausted standing out in the heat. I think I got dehydrated. Um, because I came home, we left early. We went to my brother's house. I was there for the night because I bought a 12-pack, and I knew he had beer, and I bought a 12-pack. Wait, so you bought a 12-pack for yourself? Yeah. I didn't know you did these things.

Why weren't you like this when we were best friends in person? You and I had actually – here's the thing. I have drank with you on multiple occasions, but you're usually drunker than I am, so you don't remember. There's not a usually. It's a certainly I'm drunker than you are. I think the only time I've ever been drunker than you is when we were in Vegas.

Well, yeah, because I remember all the shit you did, yeah. Why did you fuck that horse? Well, it was there. Any port in a storm, chief. That's what my grandpa would say, any port in a storm. Let me ask you a question, Jim. What do you think about this awesome sammy hagar cup there's your boy there's your boy michael anthony yeah and then let's see let's see there's uh there's vick johnson yeah and then there's the red rocker himself and then jason bonham's probably on here is that there's jason

yeah yeah this is a great my wife she's an angel and most of the time sometimes she's a psycho mostly her friend made that right yeah her friend made these she makes all these he makes all these awesome tumblers like she's got a betty white tumbler and she got me this nice gift it's like a metal tumbler my water stays so cold so i would like one of those a red rocker one what's that like one with the red rocker on it yeah just like that like this is my hero right here and i just like like it sucks because i know i'm never gonna meet my hero i know but i like that's my hero right there and like like like he lives the life i'd like to live i'm convinced there's very few people there are some people that i know but i'm convinced that if sammy and

i were to ever meet and and not just a meet and greet where you take a picture and move on, but had a little conversation, that he and I, we would remain friends. Totally. Like, I feel that way about a lot of celebrities because I'm a bit of a narcissist. So I'm like, you know what? Like, I feel like if, you know, Beyonce ever met me, we'd fuck. And that's fine. Because, like, she's probably tickled by the fact, like, oh, there's a's fat white guy that knows my songs but then she will get liquefied yeah and then we will back slide right on a chair yep she will we will we will make love she was really good and then i

will then records you know then what'll happen is that that jay-z will fight me though that'll be bad news no no he'll send somebody to fight you he'll send someone to fight me while he's fucking beyonce's sister yeah he's like i'm busy i'm fucking solange i'm like all right whatever bro so legit legit question yes celebrity outside of sammy are you convinced that you would be friends with boy that's a that's rick d's um probably what's that? probably Rick D's I think Sammy and I would be friends and I think based on the podcast he had

with Joe Rogan I think The Undertaker and I would be buddies see I think we'd all be buddies with The Undertaker it's not even political shit because you know I'm not political in the same sense that you are but not that you're a psycho or anything, but whatever. You might be. It doesn't matter.

Whatever. But like me and you and Mark was what we would call him. We wouldn't call him Taker. We'd call him Mark because we're buddies. I would agree. I think we would be able to chill with him and be buds. Yeah. I would like to think maybe Ted Nugent, but I don't know.

I think Ted Nugent is, I think he's cool as shit, but I think you would take him in small doses. Yeah, I would agree with that. Good. Now, here's another person who I think I'd be buddies with Toby Keith. It's his birthday today. Basically anybody who's been on Sammy's road show road trip show. I think I'd be friends with, like, I would love to hang out with like Toby Keith or somebody like that. Yeah, that would be cool. I think, do you know the, the know the drummer for Aerosmith lives in Tomball now? I need to move back to Tomball. I think it's official. Sure, you've never lived in Tomball.

No, I need to finally move to Tomball. I've been planning it for years and now moving to Tomball. You know who I'd be friends with? John Lopez. You know what I miss? I don't miss, but I see John Lopez and his pictures of all the fishing trips he takes with listeners. I don't miss but like i see john lopez and his pictures of all the fishing trips he takes with listeners that i want you like i don't fish but i dress

like a fisherman because it's the only clothes that fit me yeah and because i'm fat and i would i would love to go fishing with john lopez i've been how is it it's great is he is he as good as he breaks he's a braggart about a lot of shit he's very good legit like i i drove out and met him and his son um three of us went fishing and they're both really good like we're pulling out we're pulling out into the bay and his son's like dad look over there see the birds and he's like all right that's where we're going and sure enough we go out there we pull up slow he knows exactly where to like he knows where to stop how quiet all of it he knew all of it and we start casting and they're catching fish and shit and uh then we're like okay so we don't get a bite for a couple minutes all right we're moving

on like i swear to god it was like a guided trip we're going place to place to play he's such a good dude he's just a good dude he's a great guy guy. And I don't mean this in a negative way, but I don't really think he gives a shit about what he sounds like on the radio. That doesn't impact him. He's just a good dude. So the radio, what's amazing is, and this is what's gotten him so far, and he's survived like five PDs at 6'10", is he's just a laid back, chill dude.

He'll adapt to whoever he works with. So when he works with Nick, he's like, white people suck. And then he works with Cody, he's like, food's delicious. He's just whatever. Whoever he works with, he's down with. John is the easiest guy to work with. He's such a fucking good dude.

I love him so much. When we went to Miami, the first time I went to the Super Bowl radio row thing was in 2010. It was in January or February of 2010. And it was a big deal like gavin was like hey you're gonna go to the super bowl i'm like fuck getting that to the game but to radio row and i'm like fuck this rules because i didn't think i was gonna be going he's like you're gonna go but you gotta go get guests for rich and robert and all this shit i'm like whatever fun fact rich and robert bitched about me to gavin and said i wasn't getting them enough guests but whatever bygones be bygones it is what it is so um lopez was like hey do you want to just

hang out with me and i was just me and him and i'm at the time i'm 23 right this is early 2010 so i'm like 23 he's like do you want to hang out with me tonight because i know miami because lopez fun fact about lopez is basically lopez could have been Dan Levitard like he was offered a job at the Miami Herald he could have been Dan Levitard yeah he could have been the columnist according to him he could be full of shit but he was like yeah I believe him yeah like like I believe it he's a Hispanic dude right and it's Miami it's it's you know it's that whole culture so I believe that and he was like yeah I could have been you know what Dan Levitard does here that could have been me but I decided to stay in Houston and I believe that. And he was like, yeah, I could have been, you know, what Dan Labrador does here.

That could have been me. But I decided to stay in Houston. And I'm like, right on. He says, do you want to hang out with me tonight? I said, fuck, yeah, let's go. So he and I, he takes me to dinner at Cayocho, the whole area. It's a whole like neighborhood, Cayocho, Cayocho. Like I forgot what that means.

It means ate something, ate whatever. And we went to a place and he takes me to this restaurant we're eating like all this cuban food and it's where i discovered plantains which by the way gross because they're bananas yeah i don't like them they're awful but we hung out and it's like awesome and i'm telling him all my shit and he's like do you want to go to tootsies i'm like what the fuck's tootsies it's like yeah it's a strip club i'm like all right cool let's go and he and i go to Tootsie's and this fucking bar, it's like a three-story strip club in between Miami and Fort Lauderdale. It's like, like a Sam's club of strip clubs. It's gigantic. And he and I hang out there and we, you know, we drink some vodka together. And like, like, here's the thing, man, this is how I am. I don't know that

I can ever be the person that people look up to. Like I wouldn't be good as a mentor. Like I'm not a good mentor, but I'm very good at being mentored. Right? Like I'm very good. I'm a mentee. I'm a minity. I'm very good at that. And by that, I mean, I'm very good at having people that I look up to and I look for their approval and I'd like to learn from them. That's why Mark and I are still buddies me and Vandermeer text all you know pretty frequently Lopez and I will text you know I'm very good at looking up to older people and looking for guidance I don't know that I could ever be that guy that's why I don't want to be a dad well I'll say that like there's a part of me and this will never happen but there is a part of me that wants to be a dad because like I think it'd be cool to

pass on whatever wisdom it is I have yeah yeah like i think that'd be cool or like you know dress a kid just like me like hey put on your gym shorts and your hawaiian shirt we're going out tonight buddy like i like all that stuff would be cool to me but i'm better at being someone who looks up or idolizes someone right okay and that's who i've always had the best relationships with like when we hung out with the smoker in in minneapolis we had burgers with a good time like i admire people like that you know i like maybe there are people who admire me like wanted like radio wannabe people that admire me yeah could be the case i'm sure there are people that are like boy josh like i kind of look up to you whatever and and that's very cool to me

but like i'm not good at teaching people shit because like let me put it this way so that like magic johnson at one point was the coach of the lakers and he failed as the coach of the lakers and that's something lopez was telling me one day he goes like you know but but you know like he'd be in the huddle he'd be teaching these he'd be coaching these guys up in a huddle and he'd be teaching these guys. He'd be coaching these guys up in a huddle. And he'd be like, well, just throw it behind your back and do blah, blah, blah. And they'd go, coach, we don't have to fucking do that. We're not Magic Johnson.

Like, what do we do how to do? Ted Williams had the same problem. Yeah, Ted Williams. He was the manager of the Washington Senators at one point. And, like, he's Ted Williams. He's a 400 hitter. You can't teach someone to be a 400 hitter. You just know how to do it.

You don't understand that they can't do it because you did it. And you just like well i could do it why can't you do it and that's why i couldn't be a mentor to someone like i'd be like just go fucking do it like i don't know what to tell you to do you just got to do it but like but that's why i love people like john or mark or even barry who i love a lot he hates us maybe maybe just me now i don't know but like i love barry because i i truly admired people like that. Have you watched the Facing Nolan documentary? I haven't seen it yet. Is it good?

It's very good. Yeah. Barry's in it. I believe that. Well, I mean, basically, there's a couple people who he'd be in a documentary about. Nolan Ryan, Dante Antonio Pastorini, and George W. Bush. Earl Campbell. And Earl Christian Campbell Church.

Yeah, yeah. No, but I was like, it felt good to see Barry. I haven't seen Barry since that day at the Galleria. You haven't seen him since then? No. Me neither. No. And I love the guy, and, like, I get why he dislikes me, but I admired him because I admired people who've done it.

Like, those are the people I gravitate towards that like i idolize and those people tend to like me because i idolize them now there are some older radio people who never really liked what we we did right so like they'll be like they're jealous people who were never good but like people who were good and we admire them they respond to us and they like us you know like rowdy yates i think rowdy Yates is very good. Rowdy loves you and I because he's an arrogant, egotistical, old school, bloviating radio star. And I admire him about, like, I admire that about him. Yeah, I talked about you about two weeks ago.

He and I text. Like, he'll text me all the time. And I admire that. Like, there are two types of old school radio people. There are the people that never really made it. So they sit there and they get all angry and they're bitter and angry about people that are doing it now and doing it a different way. And there are people who have done it and been awesome. And they just want to be stroked.

And I'm very good at stroking old school radio guys because I'm genuinely curious. Yes, like just like this. I'm like, yeah, you've got rhythm. Yeah. I, but I, but that's how I am. That's how I operate. Cause I admire them and I want to hear their stories and they gravitate towards me too, because I have a true admiration for them. Barry, I have a true admiration for, I fucking love the guy, but he'll never talk to me again. Cause that's just how we are. Like the thing is about some of these old school radio guys. I talk rowdy uh rowdy really appreciates one someone that really wants it if he knows that you want it he roots for you and he helps you out and if and if

he sees that you're a hard worker and you hustle then you know what right rowdy's gonna love you forever yep that's one thing i one thing i love about rowdy rowdy um when i was in promotions rowdy kind of took me under his wing. Actually, a lot of those Kilt FM guys did. Rowdy and Tommy Fontaine, who I still talk to. YTF. You know what the best part about Rowdy was? Is he still doesn't know how to spell my name.

So, like, my last name is I-N-N-E-S. And, like, Tom Fontaine used to do a great impression of him. He'd go, so, J-E? I'm like, no, it's not J-E. n n e s and he'll and like tom fontaine used to do a great impression of him he goes oh he's great he go so j e like no it's not j e it's j but like it's okay like i because that's who i'm into like not a fanboy says josh is always seeking the approval of older men because he's still trying to get the approval of his dad but that's not true like i i have the approval of my dad like my dad like maybe unless i'm totally messed up like my dad will tell me like he'll send me messages say I love you whatever I don't think I'm looking for that

approval but I'm just always looking for approval from everybody and that's one of my downfalls is like I can't gratify myself unless I'm in the shower watching Pornhub I can't grab like I can't self-gratify like I can't just say Josh you did a great job and that's all you need I need to have someone to impress yeah but I think also because you love radio so much and you love the history of radio you look up to these guys I think that's another reason like I don't want to say it's like a passing of the torch in a sense but you want to feel like you're you're a part of that group that you looked up to as ever since you're a kid if that makes sense oh totally i like i wish i could be a mentor to someone like i remember one day i was over at 97.5 at the time this is when i was doing the the stuff there during the rona and i had never met um jake asman who now does afternoons there but he used to

do stuff with my agent i I didn't know that. My agent, Dave, you met David at one point, right, or no? No, I talked to him on the phone a number of times. All right, so David Brody, you've talked to him. Yeah. So David Brody's a good dude. He was my agent at the time. He's a wonderful guy.

And they used to do stuff together. So Jake approached me, and we'd just start shooting the shit. And he's a nice kid. But I don't know what the fuck to teach him. I don't know what advice to give him. Like, I know what I know how to do. I know what I have fucked up. I know where I've made mistakes.

But, like, I can't tell you to do what I do. Like, I'm not a – because that would mean that I'm a preparer. That would mean that I show up and I'm like, I'm prepared to do Blake. I'm never prepared to do Blake. I just go. And I don't know how to tell people how to just go now whenever I here's that whenever I was still a part

timer though you did help me out and you did teach me some things contrary to what you might I don't remember any of this shit but I was at my apex so I don't remember the little people yeah I know you didn't know I existed until 2013 well I remember you want a fun fact okay so Ben left.

And this is the reason why Ben's now wife hated me for a long time. It's because Ben was going to leave our show, me and Rich. And he was going to leave and go to Chicago with Lisa. Because Lisa got a job in Chicago doing TV. And that's now his wife. And they've been married now for damn near a decade. And he was leaving. And I said, oh, you're making a fucking mistake.

Fuck this shit. Why are you walking away from this shit? And that's why she hated me of course she fucking despised me so i like that's why i wasn't in his wedding she fucking hated me because then she hated me for a long time now we're buddies and it's fine but like at the time she fucking hated my guts and i said you're making a big mistake we could be big stars here what are you fucking doing and then he left and went to chicago uh and then they hired john cassio who at the time was over at 1560 and you know he's a good producer and you know he's getting good guests and shit and he came over and i love john john's one of my favorite people but at the time like john at times would be overbearing on the mic and we kind of step on people and it didn't necessarily work all the time but i remember

we were at a christ at the christmas party at drink houston this would have been 2000 i guess 12 going into 13 so december 2012 and gavin comes up he goes you know that john's leaving to go back to florida and we we need to find a new producer and i'm all pissed fuck him what's he fucking doing this fucking moron and gavin's like but you don't even like him like why are you mad you bitch about him all the time like fuck him he goes yeah we're gonna put jim in there i'm like all right fine whatever put fucking jim in there but then you and i for a decade now have been like the best of friends and yeah you know buddies but well it's funny because you i was i remember i was at my mom's house and you started texting me yeah john's leaving and you're

coming you know over in afternoons. And I really honestly didn't want to. It's not because I didn't want to work with you and Rich. I started that midday show with Mike and Brad and I felt a loyalty to those guys. Because Rich came to me when Ben left. Rich came to me and said, hey, why don't you come to the afternoons? I'm like, no, we just started this show and I don't want to leave it yet. And then Gavin came up to me and he's like, know I respect that that you want to stay with those guys

yes and so when you text me and said hey I need you to come to afternoons and I can get you more money well shit I said that yeah oh shit I was very confident I did huh I rule yeah you got me like another six grand god I fucking kick ass

and so the next day i go in and gavin walks in we were in in patrick's studio this the 650 uh production he was gone now patrick fucking hated rich they because patrick used to be the producer for rich and and uh and uh what's his name matt jackson maybe oh matt jackson yeah and then it. And then it was Rich and Robert, and Patrick fucking hated Rich, and Rich hated fucking Patrick. They hated each other. Anyways, so you're right. So

Gavin walks in that morning as I'm getting ready to do the show, the midday show, and he's like, well, I guess Josh hired you for afternoons already, and he turned around and walked out, and that was it. That was the only conversation he and I had about it. Well, back then I had some sort of pull, you know, and then Gavin left like a month later like fuck him. But

I went to Dallas. Remember his birthday and we were going to get the midget mariachi band. We were we put a call out for a midget mariachi band to come up and sing for him on his birthday. And he was so pissed. He was so pissed. Well, he didn't realize he heard he heard me say something about midget and he pulled me out of the control room,

and he was yelling at me. Well, you guys were on the air. Yeah. And he's standing out there, and Laura's behind him, and he's yelling at me about, you know, you spit in my face. You know, I get you full time, and I put you in the afternoons, and one of my best friends is a little person, and you're talking about midgets on the air, and you're spitting in my face,

and on and on, and you're looking like I can see you looking like oh shit. Yeah. I remember that. What's funny about using the word midget. When I got to 6'10 me and aforementioned Patrick and a guy by the name of Kyle Kennedy. Wonderful human. I haven't talked to him in a long time. He was a wonderful

human. It was me, Patrick, Kyle Kennedy and maybe Ben. We went to see it and it was called Extreme Mid Kennedy and maybe Ben we went to see an it was called extreme midget wrestling dude that's the best it is and we went to see it it was in like Tomball at a bar and it was awesome and I got blitzed they said and I got up on the ring and I was trying to fight the midgets so like like it was sometime in the time between then and when you took over that midget became a really offensive term I guess but they called it extreme midget wrestling yes now it's i think like micro wrestling or some shit well which i think is more condescending than the word midget well when i i there was midget wrestling at the redneck

country club back when that was open and michael text me and he said hey you want to come see some midget wrestling i'm like yes i'm like hey can i bring my nephews and he said, hey, you want to come see some midget wrestling? I'm like, yes. I'm like, hey, can I bring my nephews? And he's like, yeah, sure. I said, how many tickets? I need three. So we went out. And, dude, it is the best time. Those guys, one, they're all in.

And I'm sure they did this when you were watching midget wrestling. But there was this one dude who was funny. Like, he's running the ropes. And he's going back and forth. And about halfway through, he starts, like, slowing down and stops in the middle. Like, it's such a long distance to run all the way across the ring. It's great. And I'm just dying.

And then they hit each other with like cookie sheets and shit. But not even real cookie sheets. Like the little foil ones that are a one-time use. Like a one-time use cookie sheet. It was fucking great. It is great. I'm telling you, if you get the chance to go see Midget Wrestling, to anybody listening, there's like three people,

go watch Midget Wrestling. You will not, there's like three people, go watch Midget Wrestling. You will not regret it. I'm telling you right now. I guarantee it's one of the best times you'll ever have. But whenever they hired you, I was just so – not that they hired you was I pissed, but I was just mad that another person left. Yeah. And then you joined. And then before you know it, you and I are like the best of good friends, and we're working out together, if you want to call it that.

We're working out together if you want to call it that we're working out together by working out i mean we would you know go hit the gym for 20 minutes and go get in my truck and go drive down to the dairy queen and like fucking in in stafford stafford and get a fucking blizzard we had so much dairy queen at that time that we could go to the one in periland or in stafford and say give us the usual in the drive-thru yeah without saying a name or anything and we would pull around and we'd us the usual in the drive-thru without saying a name or anything. And we would pull around and we'd have the usual. And they would know. And Steak and Shake.

We'd go to the Steak and Shake. We went all the way out to, whatchamacallit, to go out to Steak. What is it? Not Richmond. Where would we go to the Steak? Pearland. Pearland. We went to Pearland and go to Steak and Shake.

And they knew us there, too. Yeah. You know something I feel bad about? And again, it was a bad situation sometimes yeah but i was very good at like co-oping the producer to be on my side on that show so it was always kind of two-on-one against rich now rich was a dick for some of that and he kind of had it coming but like it was always me and the producer versus rich and i would become like best buddies now me and Ben were best buddies before the producing shit.

Like, he and I were buddies when I was doing the morning shit. We just became best friends. I don't know how, but we did. And then Cassie, I kind of co-opted him while we were doing the show. And then you and I, we talked a lot before then. It's not like that was the first time I met you. We did. We would text a lot, yeah. We would text because I would – you say about mentoring,

but you would. I would text a lot. Yeah. We would text because I would, you say about mentoring, you're not, but you would, you, I would text you with questions like, Hey, you know, I'm, I'm looking at this guest or whatever. You're like, dude, yeah, I would love to talk to that person. So I, I was getting your advice on things and you were the one that told me like, nobody gives a shit. Nobody's gonna remember what you said about the Astros in five years, but they were, they're going to remember you. You got to make yourself personable. Sure. Worry, worry less about your opinion about something and be yourself. You want to hear what's sad? Is it like now I've got my program director.

Now he's like, you know, you should probably talk more about your own life. I'm like, oh, fuck, what have I become? What a fucking loser. Like you won't believe this, but when I used to do a four-hour radio show, all I used to fucking talk about was myself all the time i told him like that like um i remember one day i just opened up a show and this might have been when ben was on the show because it's probably the first time me and jilly banged it out but the show started it was 20 it was 201 show goes hey jnr you found it and you know j what you have found is you know, Houston's number one afternoon show.

Hello, everybody. It's Josh and Rich. You know, Rich and I would go, you know, Rich, I got laid last night. I remember this. And he goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are the fucking? I've got Gary Kubiak audio to play or some shit.

But, yeah, we do that. Because you guys sent out a text alert. We did? Yes. Oh, that's fucking spectacular. you guys sent out a text alert. We did. Oh, that's fucking spectacular. Let me tell you something about me. I used to fucking rule. Yes.

I don't rule it. So we sent out a text that I got laid. Yes. I remember because I was still part time and I was over in the six 50. I was running. Oh, that's great. At that time,

I was at the height of my powers. They'd let me do whatever the fuck I want. Yeah. Yep. Yep. You sent out a text alert that you got laid, yes. And when they took that, that was the last time anyone was allowed to send out a text alert. It all had to go through Robert after that.

God, I fucking ruled. And then when we were at 790, I told them, I don't want access to social media. And they go, nope, you can tweet things. And I'm like, well, okay, but you're going to gonna regret this and I just tweeted all sorts of fucked up shit like hey should we fire Josh Ennis and they're like yeah fire this motherfucker like I don't want access to this shit you did this wrong because at that time I was at like the height of like I'm just a fucking lunatic I just got fired in Philadelphia and in my mind that's how you had to do shit no matter what market you were in, you had to do what you were doing in Philadelphia.

So like fighting all the other radio stations and all this shit that kind of worked in Philly, but nobody gave a fuck about in Houston. No, they don't. So they just don't give a shit. But in my mind, they did. I was like, yep, this is what's going to work. And of course, it didn't. No, it did work for us for a time.

After Radio Row, we were flying high. But what I've learned about Houston is they like their sports radio hosts to all get along and all love each other and all love the local teams. That's all they want to know is that, you know, that Sean Pendergast and Lance Zerline are best friends and they love to go to the game together. Yeah, it's weird. They didn't like the – now, some might have.

But, like, in my mind, it was like, hey, let's be combative and whatever. And looking back on that, I regret some of it only because, I mean, obviously I'm not there anymore, and it didn't happen. And there was a lot of money in there that I don't make anymore. But, yeah. I really don't – I don't have any regrets. Oh, I have plenty. Regrets, I have a few. Then again, too few to mention.

I was listening to that in the shower. I've been on Elvis Kick. I loved that fucking movie. Have you seen it yet? I haven't. I need to see it. Tomorrow. You go tomorrow.

I'm serious. You go tomorrow. I'm going to go on Tuesday when it's cheaper. When it's cheaper. Somebody throw in some donuts to pay for me and Chili to go see the Elvis movie. Go to the early show. Even like Andy, my old boss Andy, who hated the Elton John documentary movie. I did too.

He's like, this is too fake. He's flying. This is fucking stupid. Yeah, I didn't like it. Well, he hated it, but he actually liked the Elvis movie too. I loved it. I want to go see it again. I loved it. I honestly, I find myself watching Elvis live concerts and shit on YouTube. Now I'm sending, I'm like devouring Elvis. Well, so, uh, the other day I got down an Elvis wormhole, uh, because one of my favorite hotels

in, in, uh, Vegas is the Westgate. The Westgate used to be the Hilton International, which is where Elvis played for like a decade. That hotel still exists. It does. I go to the Westgate. No, no, I didn't know that hotel was still there because they've gotten rid of so many of those old hotels. Yeah, well, it's no longer called the Hilton, but it's called the Westgate.

It's the same building. They've added a building, but it's the same building. So I was watching some guy on YouTube, and this guy on YouTube was showing, like, the suite that Elvis used to stay in. Okay. And this thing is, like, 14,000 square feet. Jesus. A suite at the top of a fucking hotel. Yeah.

Yeah. I'll tell you what, though. I love the movie. I've always been a big fan of Elvis anyways, as you know. I love Elvis. And I think because my mom really loved Elvis, so I felt there was a connection there, like going to see the movie in a weird way with my mom.

But I loved Elvis anyways. So we went and saw the movie, and I really didn't think I was going to like it. Because when you watch the trailer, it just seems really artsy. And it is kind of an artsy movie. Well, it's Baz Luhrmann, and he did... Moulin Rouge. uh um mulan and mulan rouge was fucking fantastic never watched it's great it's too gay for you i don't think you'd like it yeah but i love penis so but when you watch the movie i i liked it because you know you and i have had these conversations like a radio show's got to move

it's got to be keep you know constantly moving and going this movie moved the whole time that's important i try to explain it to my daughter. But it never sits still. There's always action. And the soundtrack, the way they edited the soundtrack together, it wasn't just them playing Elvis. They weaved in some hip-hop and some blues. And it all just intermingled so perfectly.

When you hear some of the way they edited, uh, like, like, uh, suspicious minds and stuff. I want to learn how to do that. I want to be that good of a, of a sound editor that I could do that myself.

I bet you could. I believe in you. I've been dabbling, but. All right, hold on, Jim, Jim,

do this. Tell people about Elvis while I go take a leak. Can you do that? Yeah. Tell them what, tell them to experience Elvis while I go take a leak. Can you do that? Yeah. Tell them to experience Elvis while I go take a leak. I'll be right back. Yeah, great. So, yeah, you've got to go see Elvis in the theater.

Dude, it's an experience. And so you get there, and like I said, it's fast moving. And the way they edit the sound. And one thing that I really came out of this movie is that you almost you could almost feel this Austin Butler had this charisma. One thing I don't think people understand today, like kids today, they don't really know much about Elvis is the sex appeal and the charisma that a guy like Elvis had. And so this movie really captures that really well. And so there's a scene where he is, he's setting up his, his Vegas show because in his mind he was going for one week. He didn't know that Tom Parker was going to finagle his way into a lifetime of Vegas or five years of Vegas, whatever he was there for. So he was setting up

this show and you watched him put together the show. Now I seen you know aloha hawaii and i've seen some of these specials already so i've kind of seen elvis on you know on tv but when you watch it in a theater and you watch them set this show up and then you watch the show like i swear to god i wish to god i could have been at that first vegas show the very first elvis vegas show had to be unreal i mean when the curtain closed he just collapses because he put everything into it and i i wished like if i could go back and watch one show in my life that if i could go back and watch five that would be in the top three which one which what would it be the 68 comeback special no the very the very first Vegas show.

Oh, I bet that wrote the jumpsuits and shit. Yeah, but the very first show, like I was telling the people, he didn't do Vegas with the intent of having a residency there. He was supposed to go there for five days, do five shows, and he was going to make enough money where he could tour the world. All he ever wanted to do was tour the world but parker manipulated him because parker couldn't leave the country he didn't have a passport parker wasn't even his real name oh of course not he was he was like an illegal alien he was a carny yeah yeah so well there's some well there's truth to that i was actually watching something on youtube today about things that were true and

things that were false in the movie so parker was a carny, but he didn't discover Elvis while he was a carny. Like he didn't see him at like a carnival and go, oh, there's Elvis. No, no. Well, with a lot of movies, they combine characters and combine stories to tell the story. If you want, yeah, because you could never make a movie if you just like chronological order and this is the way it happened. It's one of the best biopics I've ever seen. My all time favorite was Ray and this might, this might have surpassed it.

Did you like walk the line? I, yeah, it was, it was okay. Well, the thing is about, here's the thing about biopics,

biopics play out generally speaking, like afterschool specials. Yeah.s yeah so like oh there's like drama some guys into drugs or alcohol or whatever and then like you know then there's the end where it all kind of comes back around and everything's fine like like people really love straight out of compton remember when there was all this hype oh it should win oscars i thought it was overrated me oh totally totally overrated i'm like watching this and i'm like okay like it's an after-school special there's nothing special about it no it was over i don't like watching a biopic when i feel like okay i'm supposed to know this story like like when they show something like

they'll show something and you can tell they're focusing on it because it's a big part of that band's life or whatever yeah and you're like am i supposed to know what this is i shouldn't have to watch it knowing like i should be looking for Easter eggs in a movie. Do you have an example of that? What's that? Do you have an example of that? I don't remember because the movie was forgettable. What, straight out of Compton?

Yeah. It was. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing special about it. And then I got really annoyed because they're like, you know who was great was Ice Cube's kid. Well, he just looks and sounds like Ice Cube. Like, big fucking deal. But it's weird.

Like, he was also in the Obi-Wan Kenobi show on Disney Plus. And it's like, dude, he looks so much like his dad. Like, it's distracting. That's all you think about. It's like, well, he looks like his dad. Exactly. That's what people think when they see me. I went to Ray.

They think I look just like Ice Cube Yeah, I knew nothing about Ray Charles going into Ray You didn't? That shocks me that you didn't know anything about Ray Charles going in I mean, I knew like Hit the Road Jack and I knew that kind of stuff But I didn't really know the history of Ray Charles And I knew more of the songs than I realized But it was something like my dad and grandpa wanted to go see it.

I'm like, yeah, I'll go with you. Dude, and I came out of that such a huge Ray Charles fan. Now, yes, he was shitty. He was cheating on his wife and all that. But he's blind. How did he know? Yeah, how did he know? Like, here's the thing.

I think if you're blind, you should be able to do whatever fucked up shit you want to do. There. There's a hot fucking take. You have to suffer a life of being blind. If you fuck someone that's not your wife big fucking deal well it's like okay if your wife has a twin and you fuck the twin you've got plausible deniability totally you felt her fucking face you felt her face you're like oh yeah that feels like my wife are you my wife yep i'm your wife oh let's fuck well baby she wasn't talking so i thought it was you well i'd like like if i blind, I'd probably shoot a shit ton of heroin too.

Yeah. I mean, the lady. I bet Ronnie Millsap shoots so much fucking heroin. Yeah. If the lady's wearing my wife's perfume and I'm blind, how am I supposed to know? Exactly, Jim. Like the reason you and I are the best of friends is because we have like minds. Yes.

And like, you know, you want to hang out with people on occasion that have different thoughts than you you know but like you and i think so much alike i think when people would listen they go why does jim just parrot everything he says because we think alike we do well you know we get our monthlies at the same time true story yeah uh so did you like the uh queen document or the the queen biopic um no i i like the end biopic? No. Me neither. I liked the end. Well, you know what's interesting?

So I watched a YouTube video because I like the tube of you. Yeah, me too. And there's a side-by-side shot of the Live Aid movie and the Live Aid actual. And it's fucking amazing. But basically they blew this guy because he put in some fucking fake teeth and looked like freddie mercury i'm like yeah big fucking deal like the movie was an after-school special when here's the problem i have i i whenever i watch one of these biopics about a musician i want to know more about the recording process and the touring like i want to see them in studio making some of these songs. That's one thing I love about Ray

because they would show them and they're hashing out these songs. That's what I want to see. That's why I love the Beatles. I know it's not the same. It's not a biopic, but the Beatles, the Get Back documentary. Here's where I disagree with you on the Get Back. I tried, but I watched about an hour of it. I'm like, okay,

that's cool, but I can't do it. I can't do it. can't do it i watched you know but i grew up a huge beatles fan and i know you didn't but i grew up a huge beatles fan so for me i just i was just i i was in heaven just sitting there watching them hash this out i find the i find the art of songwriting to be so uh well we're songwriters so we understand it we've written we've written multiple parody songs. Yes. But I find the art of writing a song to be so intriguing. Like when you interviewed Desmond Child.

Yeah. Like I was glued to that podcast. Oh, dude, me too. That's why I wanted to talk with him. Because the one that stands out is like, dude looks like a lady, right? So here's how dude looks like a lady came about. They bring in Desmond Child, Aerosmith's trying to kind of revive their career a little bit and they're trying to find some new sound that's kind of hot whatever so i believe it was joe perry who came up to him and goes

yeah i got this song in my head but all i have is cruising for the ladies and he's like well that just sounds like some van halen shit so So like, why would we do that? Whatever. And then somehow it evolved into dude looks like a lady. And then like, they start just writing this thing out. Like I, I am with you. I am totally fascinated by how people like come about, like how,

like, like where an idea comes from and how, like, I believe like a pound cake, right. For instance, by era, by a Van Hagar.

So like, apparently according to Sammy, one day he's laying on the beach like in la or some shit with eddie and some hot chick walks by and he just goes man that's some pride that's a pound cake right there and then boom then like there's pound cake and there's the idea and then you go but i'm just as fascinated about the stories about a song that just falls together out of nowhere and as a hit as i am about a song that they labored over and put together and like it was like they struggled but then you know what i mean they came through it with a song totally um like like rock candy you brought up rock candy

an hour and a half ago and we've only been at this for three hours jim no big whoop it's only been two hours and 19 minutes and 11 seconds, but I just looked at the counter. Anyway, so, but like Rock Candy, they needed another song, and the drummer just started drumming that beat, and they all just kind of fell in line. And Sammy, you know, he had a notebook of lyrics. He's like, I got the perfect lyrics for this. They laid down Rock Candy right there on the spot, and it's a classic. Well, a lot of songs start with just someone having a riff. Yes.

Like they're just kind of going, they're strumming on a car. Like, I like that. Then it starts coming up with lyrics and then boom, there it goes from there. Like, do you know how many songs were just the way the guys would warm up?

Like life in the fast lane. We both love the history of the Eagles documentary life in the fast lane. That's the way Joe Walsh would warm, warm up the open to a sweet child of mine. That's the way joe walsh would warm up um the open to uh sweet child of mine that's the way slash would warm up yeah eruption was eddie's warm up you know things like that i just i just love these things that now are just so iconic we're just the guys just noodling around god that's so great like i love that shit man but like like you know you and i were talking earlier you know four hours ago about people that we think we'd be friends with like i just i want to meet sammy hagar and pick

his brain about life he doesn't need to talk to me like he's like he'll never need to do an interview with josh ennis because he makes millions of dollars and he's got vodkas and and rums and tequilas like his life is fine he does not need me but like i feel like i could talk to him and learn something and i admire him like there are very few people who i like that are celebrities that i go you know what i admire that person oh yeah he's the american dream totally and like i admire him like most people like hey you can meet you know whatever singer cool i've met a bunch of famous people that doesn't do anything but i admire sammy i admire him and want to be his but like like i just same with like a like a um i don't know a uh jimmy buffett like i think it's cool that jimmy buffett's built a whole cottage

industry out of being just you know a dude that sings some basic ass fucking beach songs and now he's like a billionaire based on that like i think that's fascinating but they're kind of the same vibe oh totally there's a couple guys like that hagar's now got that vibe buffett i'd say kenny chesney has that vibe yeah uh even to an extent we talk about toby keith toby keith kind of has that kind of like laid back chill vibe about him too like that's a very popular vibe to have he does and uh i don't know how well he's doing or isn't doing but like yeah he's got cancer and like he just seems like the coolest fucking dude you know he and hagar are friends for a reason well sammy seems to be friends with everybody everybody like because who wouldn't want to be friends with fucking hagar did you watch uh

what bill maher has a podcast now and he had sam Sammy on there for like two hours. Oh, did he? By the way, Bill Maher, and I disagree with some of his shit, but it's funny. Now liberals hate Bill Maher because Bill Maher has these just kind of common sense opinions that are now considered right-wing. Well, he's intellectually honest. I agree. So now they hate him, but he has this show where he just sits around, smokes pot, and talks with certain celebrities. Sammy was one of them. And'm like this is interesting like i like you know i love sammy yeah like i want to meet sammy and be his buddy you know yeah i i think i i think bill burr and i would be friends i would i would agree with that i think he's just a common sense you know no

no fucking frills guy. He was interviewing someone, and I can't remember who it was now. Oh, Wolfgang Van Halen. When Wolfie's album came out, he was on Bill Burr's podcast. And let me tell you who was pissed. So there's a show called Autopsy on Reels. And I watch this sometimes jilly hates it because there's just this random doctor and he's like stating obvious shit like you know such and such had a heart attack which means his heart stopped and i did some research and his heart stopped because he smoked a lot

of cigarettes he had that type of shit yeah well they did one about eddie van halen and wolfgang was just pissed about it he's like this all bullshit whatever but yeah anyway so anyway wolfgang and who who was talking about him he was he was on it. He's like, this is all bullshit, whatever. But yeah, anyway, so anyway, Wolfgang and who? Who was talking about him? He was on Bill Burr's podcast when he was promoting his new album. And that's when I realized that I would like Bill Burr because he was geeking out. Not because he was talking to Wolfie so much, but because he's a drummer. I didn't know Bill Burr likes to play the drums.

So he's picking Wolfgang's, he's picking his brain about his Uncle Al. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So he's asking about like Hoffer he's picking his brain about his Uncle Al. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So he's, you know, he's asking about like Hoffer Teacher and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah. So I'm like, you know what? Yeah, I could be buddies with this guy. What is your favorite all-time, all-time Van Halen song?

That's, you know, that's tough. It could be Van Hagar. It could be Van Halen. It could be Van Sharon. Well, it's not Van Sharon. Here's a trivia question. You'll probably know the answer because you're a smart man. Who was the second lead singer of Motley Crue?

Oh, John Carabi. It was John Carabi, yeah. Didn't last very long, but it was John Carabi. His was actually far less successful than Gary Sharon with Van Halen. Yeah. But I actually, they had one, they had a couple of songs that were on and made the radio, but one of them I actually really liked. I can't remember which one it was now.

Well, what's funny is like the record label was like, you guys really need to bring fucking Vince back. Yeah. And like, and John's like doing an album with them. Then they're like, John, you got to go. Sorry. We got to bring back. He thought he won the lottery and album with them. Then they're like, John, you gotta go. Sorry. We gotta bring back Vince. He thought he won the lottery and shit. What band was John Karabi with?

I don't remember. What the fuck was John Karabi's shitty band he was in? It wasn't like Alcatraz or Racer X or something, was it? I forgot who the fuck it was. I don't remember either. I mean, obviously Gary Cherone was an extreme. Obviously, yeah. What band was John Carolla in?

Van Halen 3 really wasn't a very good record, but there were parts of that record that I enjoy. There are pieces of it that I enjoy. Different guitar parts. I think he's a really good vocalist. He's a great vocalist. And I went and saw the show. The show was actually better than the album

because they were singing David Lee Ross songs that Sammy didn't sing. So it was almost a nostalgia. It was kind of a nostalgia tour karaoke. Well, the thing is, Sammy, when he took over, they were still doing some Eddie shit. Like some of the bigger, like I think they did like Panama or Jump and that type of shit. You had to. Yeah, yeah. By like 1991, they weren't doing that shit because they had 20 hits of their own.

So they didn't need to do the David Lee Rosta. He didn't do Jump for a while because he just couldn't connect with it. But after a while, he ended up doing Jump. But I don't remember what we were even talking about, why we got on that. John Karabi. My favorite Van Halen song. Yep. It changes all the time.

Right now, Mean Street might be it. God, I love the groove of that thing. Out on Van Halen 2, Out of Love Again. If you listen to Out of Love Again and listen to Alex's drumming on that, he gets, honestly, God, if Alex Van Halen did not have Eddie Van Halen as a brother in the band and Eddie wasn't Eddie Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, that's the one that everyone would look at that dude is so good

and he gets overshadowed because of his brother but he was so good like he he kind of had that big band swing and like his feel was incredible if you just go back and listen to some of that stuff like they had such

a swing like a boogie to it. God, Van Halen wouldn't have been in Van Halen without Alex. I'm trying to think because I'm more Van Hagar than Van Halen. And some of them are obvious, right? You don't want to be so obvious. But to me, honestly, I Can't Stop Loving You is probably my favorite. That's a good one, yeah. I just fucking love that song.

I like Summer Nights. Summer Nights is good. I would go with obvious, but they're obvious ones too. Dreams is a fucking great song. It is. Love Walks In is a great fucking song. It sucks to be like, yep, my favorite song is the obvious big hit, but some of them are just fucking great songs.

They are. I find that if I, if I'm going back to listen to a band that I haven't listened to in a while and a band that I, that I loved enough that I know all the deep cuts, like I know every song, every Van Halen song, right? I will go back in it and skip the stuff that was, that were radio hits just because I've heard them so many times. But then after a while, it's like, I want to listen to it. And it's like, God, I remember why I really liked this when it was on the radio.

Because it's so fucking good. You know, like forever, I didn't listen to Jump forever. And then you listen to Jump again, it's like. It's a fucking jam. It is. It's a jam, man. But you find yourself like, well, I'm going to listen to Top Jimmy. Because I never made it on the radio.

And that's, you know, my name's Jim. So I'm going to listen to Top Jimmy. And then that's a great song. They didn't have a bad song. And, you know, up until's Jim, so I'm going to listen to Top Jimmy. And then that's a great song. They didn't have a bad song up until Sharon. They did not have a bad song. Now there's songs now that, like, Sammy doesn't like Source of Infection. Like, he's embarrassed by the lyrics to that. Well, you know, it was a time and place, right?

They were in a different spot at the time. Don't be embarrassed about your shit. That's one thing that bothers me when a guy is like yeah i'm embarrassed by that song or that movie like whatever it is what it is you're not embarrassed by the money it makes you like heart is guilty of that heart's embarrassed by every great 80s song and all this shit like well you don't have a hard time cashing the checks well you know i i get it in the sense that like he's in a different like he's older now he's in his 70s he's not not going to go out singing about how he got an STD. I get it.

Eddie Murphy got older and he started doing cartoons and shit. He's like, well, I want to make movies my kids can see. I get it. You're in a different place in your life, but you don't disparage what you did when you were younger just because you were younger. Well, that's what Stern does. Stern dismisses everything he ever did

and says if you liked it, you're a piece of shit. Yeah, well, whatever. You know what? I never really listened to Stern because we didn't have him here in Houston. And I started listening to him. You and I would drive around. We'd listen to Stern.

And he's a great interviewer. Yeah. And we would listen to some of the best, like, God, when they would prank swap shop shows and shit. I mean, and that's not even anything he had anything to do with. It was just his little lackeys would call, you know, all these swap shops, and they were fucking, it's the funniest shit I've ever heard. It's great. It's great.

There's a show on Netflix called Swap Shop. I've seen it. And I haven't watched it yet. It's not worth it. It's not worth a shit. Oh, you've watched it? Yeah, I've watched, not worth it it's not worth a shit so oh you've watched it yeah i've watched like an episode it was a waste of time oh but it seems like something that michael's audience would well i'm gonna watch it because i i like like american pickers and

history channel so i'm interested in it yeah well go for it i will do it you know here's a show you should also watch and i'm in the middle of the second season it's an older show that's got four seasons it's called crazy ex-girlfriend okay and it's a funny show and it's like there's like it's a tv show it was the lowest rated show on tv for four years really like on a bit it's a funny fucking show and it's like it's a musical like there's like one or two musical numbers in each episode it's a fucking funny show and i'm uh well no one we would know like it was just people that became famous because of that show it was like that one show you were recommended had one season and i can't remember oh you're talking about zach stone is gonna be famous dude that was fucking brilliant it was that's what's his name uh that played chip mccapp in those episodes of our show, Parks and Rec.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, that was the country singer, right? Yeah, he played Chip McCap in that one episode. I didn't realize that. Where his songs were all big hits like Freedom Note, You're Not As Beautiful As My Mom and shit like that. What is that guy's fucking name? How am I drawing that? I don't know. He's a really good stand-up comic, and a lot of his bits are about shitty country music. as beautiful as my mom and shit like that yeah what is that guy's fucking name oh how am i he's

a really good stand-up comic and a lot of his bits are about shitty country music okay but uh but yeah that was a good show and it was one random season on on mtv and it was fucking brilliant had biff was playing his dad yeah and uh it was a great show i i really enjoyed it his his step-grandmother's funeral was some of the i haven't laughed that hard in so long no like he basically gets up there and he just like in the moment he realizes that the chick he's eulogizing is black yeah he goes she was black she was black deal with it dad like it's just fucking his bo burnham is his name his name is bo burnham and he's he's a funny dude great stand-up and like some of his best stand-up is him kind of just mocking country music current country music okay and it's fucking great but like

these random shows like crazy ex-girlfriend was on the cw and was on the cw for four seasons and it literally was the lowest rated show, I believe, for all four of those seasons. But it was nominated for a bunch of Emmys and shit, you know? But the show itself was, like, I'm a season and a half into it, and I fucking find it to be very fucking funny. So you should watch it. I'll put it on my list.

Have you watched anything interesting lately? Well, we're binge-watching breaking bad emily had never seen it so we're we're gonna we want to get through so that paulie walnuts died today did he really yeah i've never watched the soprano so i don't even really know who that is but i saw it on one of the best characters of all time see the thing is i think i don't watch the sopranos out of out of spite because you know back in our heyday you know on the radio baby everybody would reference the sopranos i'm like and seinfeld and like the godfather and those are three things i refuse to really get involved in like i'm like nope you fuckers like last time i checked rich lord's not quoting fucking teen wolf

and if he does then i'll start quoting fucking Seinfeld. Yeah. Seinfeld is a great show. I don't love it as much as a lot of guys did. But, you know, it's on Comedy Central. Yep. And so I've been watching it a lot during the day. And it really is funny.

I love The Sopranos. I've watched every season of them all. And I probably love it, but I refuse to watch it because i don't want to you know do all this shit that these dipshits reference all the time like the godfather fun fact i've watched a handful of minutes of the godfather it's great and like it's all on thanksgiving sometimes and i'll watch like 10 minutes of it but i refuse to watch any of them because of the shitty sports radio people yeah i think the godfather is a great movie, but I like Goodfellas better. No, well, Goodfellas is great.

And I like Casino better than all of them. Casino's great, too. God, I lost my... I was going to say something that's so profound. Well, I believe it. You've never said anything that was less than profound. Yeah. And, of course, James Caan died. Old James Caan died.

I also enjoy that people that have never met the guy will call him Jimmy Caan. Like, bitch, you didn't do a movie with him. You're just some asshole that writes reviews for a website. Don't call that motherfucker Jimmy. He's James Caan to you, dick. I'm going to watch El Dorado tomorrow. It's the John Wayne movie that

has James Caan as Mississippi. Well, I'm going to watch Honeymoon in Vegas, and it's the movie with James Caan as Mississippi. Well, I'm going to watch Honeymoon in Vegas, and it's the movie with James Caan, and he is trying to steal Nicolas Cage's lane. Okay. Who is played by Sarah Jessica Park. I might watch Misery also.

I don't know yet. I can't watch Misery. Why? Did you and I ever do that bit where, like, I cannot watch Misery because of the hobbling scene? It is truly the most grotesque thing ever watching the dude get his fucking ankles bashed in i think one time me and rich watched it on the air and just reacted to it holy shit the hobbling scene in that movie is fucking brutal yeah i've never

watched the movie but i know the scene i've seen it it on YouTube. You've never finished the movie? I've never watched it. No shit. Yeah, so Paulie Walnuts, the guy that played Paulie Walnuts, he was a criminal in his younger days. I don't know if he was actually in the mafia, but I think he was connected. He'd spent time in prison. If you ever watched The Sopranos, one thing he always said that Paulie Walnuts

would always sit there and hold his hands in front of him. He always had his hands in front of him. And the guy that played Christopher asked him about that one day. He's like, well, here's the thing. I spent time in prison. And when you're in prison, you always keep your hands in front of you in case somebody comes at you. You don't want to have your hands in your pocket. You want them right in front of you so you're ready to go.

So he brought that level of realism to the character Pauly Walnuts. So he always said he always stood there with his hands in front of him because that's what criminals do no shit i'm like well okay now i know now i feel like i'm street smart you told did you watch the wire i watched the first here's the thing the people talk about the wire like it's the greatest show ever i've never seen it so it's good it's good i watched the first two and a half seasons. Gavin loaned me. It was his prized possession.

Got the wire on DVD, bro. Yep. Now that I'm full time, I'm your full time now, Jim, I'm going to let you borrow my my box set. And I'm like, OK. And so I'm watching. Dusty and I are watching The Wire. And the first thing you notice is that it's so dated. Like the technology is so dated. Like the flip phones and shit.

It's really dated. But it's a good show. It's really good. And we're about halfway through season three and Gavin takes off for Dallas and wants his box set back. I like how he remembers that like, hey, I need my fucking DVDs. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm going to this big job in Dallas. I'm abandoning all you motherfuckers. First things first, I need my fucking DVDs. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm going to this big job in Dallas. I'm abandoning all you motherfuckers.

First things first, I need my fucking DVDs. Yeah. I love Gavin, though. I love Gavin. He came down when Armin left. He came down and helped out for a while. Well, I have it on good authority that Gavin just wanted to do the job after Armin left. Like, Gavin just wanted the job.

And they were like, nah. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, they went with a kid who, like, the job after armin left like gavin just wanted the job and they were like oh okay yeah uh no they went well they went with a kid who like i'm just gonna sound like a real old man statement uh i have neckties older than this kid and that's a lie i have no neckties but but it sounded good i have two now because i bought one for the wake and one for my mom's funeral so that's it but uh yeah i don't know the kid i i still keep in contact with laura laura and i will I have two now because I bought one for the wake and one for my mom's funeral. That's it. But I don't know the kid.

I still keep in contact with Laura. Laura and I will text usually about once a week or so. She's got herself a German Shepherd puppy. Oh, boy. You want to hear something pathetic. So I used to make fun of Laura for having her cat's ashes in an urn. Yeah. And now I'm sitting here realizing the reality of my situation is that at some point I'm going to have ashes of a fucking dog.

Yeah. And I'm like, you know what I am? A cocksucker. Just a fucking asshole. No, here's the thing. You've gained experience and wisdom through life. That's all it is. And as you get older, people in general, as they get older, learn to tolerate things that when they were younger, what they thought was stupid. Because now they've got experience and they realize, hey hey i can put myself in that person's shoes like i

when doc died they were like should we get the ashes nope nope don't want them i don't care i mean i cried for one day when that dog died when marty dies i'm gonna lose it well here's the thing about doc we were on the air when that dog died yeah i remember i was in the ifb going jim is your wife bitching about something you go go, shut up. Doc's dead. I'm like, what? And, like, the stupid dog ran out into the road and got hit by. But what I love is you go, Dusty says somebody deliberately killed Doc and ran off or some shit. I'm like. She thought somebody kicked him.

Like, I'm not trying to laugh at the dead dog. But your, bless her heart, she's dumb. That is a dumb thought like someone just came over in the yard and said watch this and kicked the dog in the fucking head and ran at five in the morning come on i and here's the thing i like i'm like all right you're like go home i'm like okay i'm gonna go home um because somebody need to take care of the dog and be with you know that was dusty's dog and dusty was she was distraught the girls say she held that dog for like a half hour after he was gone and then her life didn't want to put him down

that was her dog and i felt bad so i'm like i'm gonna go home and be with my wife so i i get home and uh you know i'm fine all the way home i get home she brings me outside to show me where he is on the patio because i got to scoop him up and i got to take him to the vet because they cremated him yeah it's like 50 bucks so she she takes the towel off of him and I start sobbing like a bitch I got like a baby I'm just like crying as shit over this dog I mean I love the dog the dog was fine he wasn't my dog but I and the rest of that day like off and on I'm crying next day I'm fine but that day nope when what when Marty kicks it oh I don't know what I'm fine. But that day, nope. When Marty kicks it? Oh, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Yeah. You're going to have to take days off. I might. The Michael Berry show, we're in week seven of Jim Mudd not coming to work. I took a week off. He gave me a week off when my mom died. Well, that's nice. See, that's the thing people don't realize is you work for Michael. You don't work for the radio station.

Michael doesn't work for the radio station. Michael works for Michael. So does he have, have like his own company i i really i i guess i don't know i don't know all of his uh workings i just know that he sends me a paycheck that's all that matters yeah um but i tell you what though i i love working for the guy i do i love this job as you should should. Yeah. You should. Yeah. But, yeah, so, yeah, when my mom died, yeah, you text me and Michael, he still asks how I'm doing. He still asks about my dad. Does Michael ever ask how I'm doing?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe that. I wouldn't lie to you. Every now and then I'll send him a direct message on the, who says direct message? I'll send him a direct message on the Twitter do says direct message i'll send him a direct message on the twitter doodle yeah and just see what's going on because michael gave us a lot of good advice that i did not listen to yeah and he's like you know don't work like he was like don't worry about these assholes at this station they're nobodies you're

somebody be like you're right michael then i'd walk out and go hey i'm gonna tweet about clanton he's a cunt and uh and then i listened to it, and I wish I would have. Speaking of mentor, he would have been a good one for you to listen to. I should have. Dude, there's a lot of people I should have listened to, man. Right. There's a lot of people I should have, but I didn't, and I'm a dipshit, and it is what it is.

What are you going to do? Yeah, one thing I've learned is when a guy that doesn't have to help you out is trying to help you out, and they're successful in what you're trying to be successful in, listen to that advice. Because obviously they've done it, and they've done it well. But me, I would just sit there and, you know, I would respond to every negative thing these assholes would say about me and everything, and I just thought I was an idiot. Yeah. In hindsight, I shouldn't have been as much of an idiot as I was, but I was, you know? Yeah, well, that's life. That is, Jim, that have been as much of an idiot as I was, but I was, you know? Yeah.

Well, that's life. That is, Jim, that is so life. That is totally life. And like, I sit there and I'm like, you know, Josh, if you would have just, you know, maybe you'd still be in Houston today. Maybe you'd be now we'd still be obsolete because we'd be on a shitty sports station in Houston. But like, maybe we'd still have that job if I just want to listen to the advice that was,

you know, given to us by Michael, who was just offered to us by Michael Berry. Here's what I think, though. I think Rona would have got us because we were making too much money. Probably. But then, like, I would assume Sean makes decent money there, and he survived. Yeah, probably. So I don't know how much he makes. Probably not as much as we were.

Yeah. Can I say something that annoys me, if we're being honest? Because Sean's my guy, and I love Sean. But they clearly just demoted Michael Conner. Like, Michael Conner's on a morning show, and now he's like, oh, guess what? I'm living my dream of writing shitty web stories about the Astros. They clearly just demoted the guy. By the way, I think he's a cocksucker.

Like, he was an asshole to us every fucking day. And I wish, like, if he died tomorrow, I would's a cocksucker. He was an asshole to us every fucking day. And I wish, if he died tomorrow, I would take a shit on him. He's awful. And he's a no talent. Be honest about your feelings here. But really though, he would judge the shit out of us. Like, who the fuck are you, dude? What have you ever done?

Dick. You work at 790 because they'll hire anybody. Eat a dick. But anyway, they did, so they clearly have no taste. So he clearly just got demoted from Sean's show, and they brought on some jamoke I've never heard of, and Sean's all on there like, hey, this guy is going to be great. But then Sean also tweets, boy, we're sure going to miss Michael Conner. And Michael Conner's like, well, I'm changing careers

and writing about the Astros now and bliggity blue and you're like no asshole they fucking demoted you and all these people buy it that's what bothers me when I got every time I ever fucking get like you know like you know I don't know the fired it's like nope Josh is what a piece of shit the whole world hates him

this guy gets demoted and it's like well Michael Connors moving up in the world no he's fucking not. Writing web stories for a website, nobody fucking. It bothers me because people are full of shit. Okay. That's what bothers me. Fuck them.

Fuck him. And fuck all these assholes that are full of shit. I hate full of shit motherfuckers. I get it. But here's the thing, though. When you work in the public eye, there's a certain amount of face-saving that goes on. No, but there's also whenever you're actually important. People shit on me because I was important. Nobody gives a fuck about this asshole.

Like, he could disappear tomorrow and nobody would know he ever existed because he's a fuck. He's a nothing. There are fans. No, there are not. Everyone's not a fan. There are fans. No, they're not. They're not. No, they're not. False. Here's what they like.

Anybody who is a fan of that dick cheese is because he's a fucking Astros fanboy and they're also Astros fucking fanboys. So they're like, this is our guy. Like nobody ever listened to that fuck face and goes, hey, you know what? This guy's great at radio because he's not. He's a fucking dope. Is, is Gordy still doing a, in the trenches? I think so.

And by the way, I like Chris. I do too. I do. I like Chris. And every now and then he'll send me a message. I actually like him. And I guess the thing I regret and, and like, I don't know that I like the problem is I didn't think we were doing anything wrong.

Cause I just, we were just doing what we were used to doing, what we were taught to do. Right. When we called up his show. When we called up his show and fucked with him in New Orleans or made fun of his broken arm, apparently he took offense to that. Yeah. Apparently that was wrong. We were used to just busting each other's balls, you know? Yes.

That's the way. You're right. When you say that's the way we were taught. And we were taught nothing at 790. They just said, come in and do what you do. Then we did what we did. And they were like, no, don't do that. Yeah, but that's the way Gavin taught us, though. That's the way we were taught. And we were taught nothing at 790. They just said, come in and do what you do. Then we did what we did. And they were like, no, don't do that. Yeah, but that's the way Gavin taught us, though.

That's our guy. That's the smartest guy I've ever worked for, Gavin. He taught us to do that shit. How about you fuckers throw in some donuts? I'm sitting here pounding beers. We're telling great stories. Throw in a couple of bucks. I'll do another shot.

I don't give a fuck. I got my, the mountains. You know what these mountains are, Jim? Blue. They are blue as my balls yeah so jilly's been on the rona so you you can't be like yeah i guess for the last three years yeah three year rona uh but anyway so i'm ranting you guys are getting some fucking rants right now like i love sean i do i adore sean he's a good person

and he was very nice to us but like i see sean online and he's like boy we're sure gonna miss michael connor fuck you no you're not that's the classiest thing to do well i don't know how to do classy shit all i know is to tell the truth and the truth is i like like if you liked him that much then they wouldn't be fucking demoting the guy to like writing fucking web stories for a website nobody gives a fuck about well you know what we don't know that maybe maybe that's what he wanted to do no he doesn't that's a lie i don't know lie detector shows that was a lie on did the right thing sean did the classy thing and and it bothers me that no matter what happened like say i get fired from somewhere even if sean went online and was like, Josh was the greatest guy ever and I'm looking forward to his next thing. Everybody would respond to that and go, yeah, fuck Josh Ennis.

What a cunt. We all hate him. He's awful. He's awful at his job. But like this asshole Michael Conner gets fired and they're like, oh boy, he sure gets fucking improved. Like, fuck you. Fuck everybody. Fuck a duck.

But listen to you right you've always been a guy that has strong opinions and you don't understand why other guys will have strong opinions about you and your strong opinions fuck them too but if you're going to have a strong opinion then you got to expect that people are going to have that same they're going to have that back with you

Jim I'm a fucking god I'm a golden god yeah but golden gods don't worry about what people think. That's actually a good point. Fuck Michael Conner. Hope he gets hit by a bus. But I don't hope it, but if it did, I'd be like, good. You wouldn't feel sorry for the bus?

But is it wrong to dislike people? Let me tell you my flaw, Jim. I have many, by the way, many flaws. I mean, look at my side tits. I got so many flaws. I mean, look at my side tits. I got so many flaws. But one of my flaws is that there are people, like Michael Conner's a nobody, like an absolute nobody. He'll never get a job in any other city. He's a turd. He's a nothing. He is just a doof. But he has a job there because 790 will hire any asshole that's just how they operate

like hey are you an asshole yeah come on in we want you that's how they operate so he'll have a job there but if somebody were like hey we're looking for a job in minneapolis like we're gonna hire this guy and he he auditions they go fuck you you're not good that's how this shit works fuck i don't know where the fuck i was just going i've had a lot of i don't know either it doesn't matter jim this isn't't about you. You gotta start to learn that. I will sit back then. This shit is not about you, Jim. What this is is, fuck, I don't know what it is.

I've had, I don't know. I don't know what it is. It was that last sip of beer. You know what's funny? There was a moment, probably about less than 10 minutes ago, where I could see that you turned the corner. I could see in your eyes, like, you just turned the corner. I can see in your eyes, like you just,

you turn the corner. It's over. It's over. But no, but like, I hate like that guy fucking hated me. So if people hate me, like there's people who hate me and well,

let me put it this way. There are some people like when we got back to Houston the second time and I just shit on a bunch of people and I don't blame them for disliking me. Like I don't dislike Sean Pendergast. I don't think he's particularly good, but like, but I don't dislike him. I'm sure he dislikes me because I spent time shitting on his show when we were on in the afternoon. Yeah.

And I don't dislike Seth and Seth obviously doesn't dislike us cause he's been on my podcast. He's a good dude. Mike doesn't dislike me. He'll send me his random Mike Meltzer fucking messages like, Hey durant and i'll be like what about him life like that's the message but me and melzer still like mike one one word text and you're supposed to know exactly the context and the entire opinion on that one word speaking of mike have you watched him today you talked to melzer today he texted me today yeah about what happy birthday oh that makes sense yeah there's only a day late but i was on time but it doesn't

matter so have you watched love on the spectrum no not yet so love on the spectrum there are two versions of it there's the australian version there's the american version and they're both interesting i am convinced that melzer is 100 on the spectrum i don't know what he's got but i think he's autistic in some way and i'm not judging him for that but i see the way these people act and i'm like melzer does all of this shit and we saw zach when we did the shit right and and he was and he's got uh he had asperger's yeah and melzer's yeah he didn't lose it melzer's got something, he didn't lose it. Meltzer's got something.

And I don't know what it is. But you should watch Love on the Spectrum because there's some good shit there. Yeah, I need to. Thanks, Brad Hall. But we gave you 50 bucks. Oh, wow. Look at Jim watching the show. It just popped up.

Thanks, Brad Hall. Anyway, so back to Zach. Zach was our intern before he was yours. And we had him for, like, a week. And then Gavin said, yeah, he's going to Afternoons. He wants to go to Afternoons. Do you know what it was like to have so much power? Because, like, we had such good numbers.

And, like, I could just get whatever I wanted. Now I'm just a slapdick fuckface. Like, there's this classic rock station that's in memphis now that's owned by iheart and i'm like i want to be on there they're like fuck you bitch but like back when i was on sports it'd be like and i was at the top of my game they'd be like fuck yes put josh in us on everywhere because he's a fucking legend yeah you can want one hand and shit in the other yeah but um back to zach so i'm still delivering pizzas back when I was doing middays. Yeah.

And because I had not gotten my $6,000 raise that you had got me to go to afternoons yet. Jim, I take care of my friends. I may not call them when their moms are dying, but I'll get them six grand. Yeah. And you got me a lot more when I went to 790. I did. Because I'm a good friend.

That's neither here nor there. Neither. So I'm delivering pizza. And I'm listening to you guys. You're talking to Zach for the first time. Yep. And you asked him a question about how long I think that he had been boning his girlfriend or something. And he's like, well, 10 minutes on a good day.

And I'm like, and you're like, you're both like, no, that's not what we're asking. And I remember I'm getting out of the car to take pizza into, it was like some non-denominational church's youth night, hearing Zach talking about Bonin and his girlfriend for 10 minutes, who's also, I think, got Asperger's. And I remember thinking, we let this guy get away. Like, I was so pissed. I'm texting Meltzer and Brad. Like, we let this guy get away.

And Meltzer has no clue why it's funny. He's like, I don't know. I just texting Meltzer and Brad. We let this guy get away. And Meltzer has no clue why it's funny. He's like, I don't know. I just want to talk about Kevin Durant. Dude, I love Meltzer. And I've worked with Meltzer on two different shows. I worked with him with Brad and with Seth. Because I was their producer when they came to mornings before I went to 790 with you. And I love Mike.

But Mike has to stick to the rundown. Mike's got to stick to what he has planned. And again, I love Mike. But Mike has to stick to the rundown. Yes. Mike's got to stick to what he has planned. And again, I love Mike and I think Mike's really good at what he does, if that makes sense. Like I remember he was doing the NFL

draft one year with Vandermeer and John Harris. I don't remember who all was over there. It doesn't matter. But their internet was out. I remember him texting me, the internet here is out. I don't have a computer. And that dude did that draft and he talked about each player

from memory. Because he's on the spectrum. He has to be. And he's one of my best friends. One of the things... I love Mike. Let me tell you what I feel blessed about. sounds weird because i like i'm not a religious guy but let me tell you something that i feel blessed about so when we were shitting on melzer for all those times the melzer and their show it was we were doing radio we were fucking with them right melzer they took that shit real personal which i don't blame them i probably would too yeah and

they took it very personal and it took me after i don't know them i probably would too yeah and they took it very personal and it took me after i don't know if we've gotten fired yet or what but me and melzer and jillian some heifer that melzer was probably fucking went to uh because he likes them big we went to and that's okay he loves them large he loves them big he loves him loves him a cow loves him a sow uh but we would uh but we went to have you know we went to uh what's the hockey bar and down there in downtown and midtown um oh fuck i don't not remember the name of the hockey bar down there anyways but we went down there and melter's kind of cold towards me and the girl he's with is kind of cold towards me because they know

she knows who i am you know and um all that shit but like gradually we start becoming buddies again you know yeah and and now he and i text all the time and we're friends again and i'm like i'm truly appreciative of that because i love him i truly do and i've known him for the last 13 years 12 years whatever it is and i love him and i appreciate that he's a friend and i appreciate that we text and that then that we're you know we're we're buddies because some people wouldn't do that Seth I mean Seth did it he and he and me and Seth remember how awkward it was was it on the way back from Minneapolis that we saw them like in the line waiting to get on the plane no you no um you flew back you took a different flight where was it i saw them somewhere and it all it was after that super bowl yeah you you stayed in atlanta i think i went back separately

yeah because you flew back with him and then i saw them on that plane and then we just patched up everything yeah yeah we might have even sat on the plane together and talked i don't remember i don't know. I don't think it happened that way. But, like, me and Seth were, like, buddies. And me and Meltzer are buddies. Like, you know, I mean, some people I'll never be buddies with. It's just kind of how it goes.

But I'm glad that they did because I never disliked either one of them. It was just, you know, doing radio and trying to fuck with people and trying to make it interesting, you know? Yeah, and unfortunately they didn't understand what we were doing and what that was you know and i don't blame them like how should they're not dudes that are programmed to go on the radio and shut up somebody like we are you know but and but it worked out it worked out for us at the time because they didn't understand it and so they kept talking about us on their show yeah we got you know we got free advertisement on on their station i do miss those days jimmy i do yeah i know that you're now rich and you have like a fucking maserati and shit

working with old michael berry yeah you're probably hanging out with ted cruz and shit but boy we had some good times i've only got the maserati because the bentley's in the shop no shit happens bro what are you gonna do yeah what does the rest of your night look like, Jim? Well, what time is it? It's already 10. Oh, shit. Boy, we've had a time. I've got to eat dinner.

I haven't eaten dinner yet. Me too. What are you going to have? Probably, at this point, cold pizza. Oh, did you guys order pizza? Yeah. Did you guys do Papa John's? No, no.

We did Domino's, thin crust, double sausage with extra cheese. Oh, that's good. That's the thing. As far as thin crust goes for the big chains, it's certainly Domino's. Although, sometimes the pizza had thin crust pretty good, too. You know, Papa John's is good. They've got that cracker crust. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, it's really good. Now, I haven't tried the Little Caesars one yet, but that one looks pretty thin. I like a really thin, thin crust. As you should. A crispy crust. Now, you know, that pizza we had in Minneapolis, that bar we went to that night we got kicked out of Radio Row, we went to that bar

and we sat there and ate a couple of those thin crust pizzas. Yeah, and they were good. It was really good. And then we, you know, I say we just because I'm trying to be generous, but I busted my ass trying to find a place to do the show the next morning. Yeah, you did a lot of work, yes. No, because I spent most of my night on the phone with the boss

being like, hey, so you're going to fire me? Yeah. Which is absurd, but that's how it was. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, Jim, I kept you so long. Go eat your cold pizza. Okay. Well, I i enjoyed it and it was nice talking to you we don't talk enough we don't we don't we just don't talk anymore i mean we text all the time and i bitch i can tell that like i've i annoy you because i'm like let me tell you what

pisses me off you're like my life rules so uh stop bitching asshole well here's the thing i i think as i've gotten older i've i've got less time in my life for being upset I generally have become very zen dude you're totally zen yeah me I'm like the opposite but you're you're like I'm like fuck these guys like I just don't think about those things anymore yeah I'm like the dude you're kind of like the dude I agree yeah you're legendary but I love you Jim we'll see you soon I can you, Jim. We'll see you soon. I'd like to see you soon. Let's go meet up at your mom's marker.

Okay. Me and you will talk with her. Me, you, your mom, we'll have a good talk. Yeah, you'll recognize it as the one that's got the wind chimes hanging over it. Okay, then I will find it. Okay. Do any dogs ever like poop around there or anything? No.

No, that's good. Fuck those dogs. I love dogs, but don't poop around jim's mom's marker no my like said my dad takes the dog out with him on sunday he goes and sits out there i don't think daisy may should sit at the cemetery good for daisy may how's your dad is he good i mean he's as good as he can be i guess yeah yeah he he's he's getting along he's he's good He misses the old girl. They were like 51 years. It's a long time. Is there a chance that he goes out and finds him another old gal?

No. Well, I would be shocked at this point. Could he maybe get on like the right side app and maybe find him someone who really likes Trump or something? I don't know that my dad knows how to add an app. Could you add it for him and maybe he can find somebody? Then I have to go over there and help him swipe right. That's the thing about this, right? You can only swipe right on this app, I'm sure.

There's no swiping left on the right side. No, you swipe left. You know what happens? You burst into flames. Yeah, everything is swipe right. The nice thing is they're all going to look like Tommy Lahren. You swipe left, though, you get a shot of Rachel Maddow's beaver. Yes.

You like that hairy shit? That's what you get for swiping left. I didn't rachel maddow's beaver yes like you like that hairy shit that's what you get for swiping left i didn't know paul gallant had a beaver that's true all right jim i love you buddy i'll see you see you bye all right oh there we go