The Josh Innes Show - Lazy Radio

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

I'm in one of those moods today. I heard really lazy radio this morning and now I'm enraged. I am starting to become resigned to the fact that my days as a radio dude may be over. I'm not saying this... to be dramatic, but it's becoming more and more likely that it's over. This leads me to talk about how I may be the most ghosted dude in radio history. I've got some stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 I don't know, but I'm glad you're there. About to take it to the streets and do some door dashing. I'm a couple of deliveries, really just one delivery away from now setting my all-time weekly high. Last week was the first full week, so that was the highest. About to surpass that. So I'm not going to go into too many details today about door dashing only because nothing really interesting happened yesterday. If something interesting happens, I'll share it with you.
Starting point is 00:02:21 If nothing interesting happens, then I won't. There, it's as simple as that. I will say, though, that I was worried. Like it's weird to me when people order generic chain food shit to be delivered miles and miles away. So it's already generic chain restaurant food shit. So it's already going to be iffy anyway, but then when you need to get it, you know, 15 miles away in rush hour traffic, it's going to be cold. So like, why are you ordering this? Like I live in an area called Kirkwood, which is like, I guess you could call it a suburb. It's not a neighborhood. It's, it's outside of St. Louis
Starting point is 00:02:56 city. It's in St. Louis County, I believe. Yeah. I think it's in St. Louis County. I don't know. But, um, but so somebody ordered from Chili's in Kirkwood, and they needed it delivered about nine miles away closer to the city in the city limits of St. Louis. This was at 450. It was rush hour traffic there, and there was a train going through Kirkwood, which conveniently kept me from getting to the Chili's. Like, it's in a perfect place. The chain runs like half a mile from Chili's, but I can't get to the Chili's because there's no other way to go around unless you really go around. Like, I mean, I'm talking about a big loop, but I'm like, I'm going to try to be a hero
Starting point is 00:03:36 today to make sure they get their Chili's. So I tried to find some weird back ways to get to Chili's. All it did was made me later to get the food. So I pick up the food. Then I'm stuck in traffic going through all these city streets and everything trying to get them the Chili's. All it did was made me later to get the food. So I pick up the food. Then I'm stuck in traffic going through all these city streets and everything, trying to get them to Chili's again. It's Chili's it's chicken putt dippers. It's a, it's a, the, uh, Southwest egg rolls, whatever. Okay. It's Chili's. It's not anything special, right? But this person ordered Chili's 10 miles away from their home there was no chance the
Starting point is 00:04:05 chilies was actually going to be good there was no chance I kept feeling the container because it was in a plastic bag and I'd feel the container and it kept getting like like like colder and colder I'm like I don't know the fuck to do for you like I know that this like when you ordered this chilies at 4 45 you probably thought you'd have it by like 510. Sorry that it's fucking 530. I'm stuck in traffic. You live in the heart of the city. There's all these side streets and red lights and traffic. Look, Chili's is fine.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And if you're looking for something to do quick for lunch or something, go to Chili's. If you're just looking for something cheap, go to Chili's. But to me, if you're going to order something that's 10 miles away, 8 miles, 9 miles away from your house, why the fuck is it Chili's but to me if you're gonna order something that's 10 miles away eight miles nine miles away from your house why the fuck is it Chili's like I get it if there's like a restaurant that's only in this neighborhood and you fucking love it you can't get out of the house to go get it today so you're like yes bring me like fancy burger place that's that's only in this neighborhood or awesome Thai place that's only in this neighborhood or awesome Thai place that's only in this neighborhood, like unique to this neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's Chili's. You're not going to get good Chili's out of that. It is inevitable that the Chili's is going to suck. But I don't know what to tell you. I can't help you. I almost wanted to pick up the phone and be like, you sure you want to have Chili's delivered that far? And people, I don't know if there's just a shortage of Chili's in the St. Louis area.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I had to do another delivery the other day to like an old folks home. By the way, old folks homes, tons of deliveries to the people who work at old folks homes. And as I mentioned the other day, I also had to take one to the room of somebody in an old folks home, which was quite uncomfortable. And I'm fairly certain I'm sick from it. But like you bring that to the old folks homes, people love the Chili's, but I'll tell you what else people love Culver's, right? Like Culver's is one of the places I frequent the most Chick-fil-A I frequent the most. Like yesterday I went to Chick-fil-A five damn times also a thing I learned while door dashing is that there are family packs at uh at Panda Express like a family meal and it comes in this fun box with like little Chinese character things and shit on it so uh that was neat um yeah but yesterday
Starting point is 00:06:22 wasn't a very eventful one it was a kind of a low-end payday for me, too. I made like $100. Now we're getting to a point where my goal every day is to make at least $100. I try to get $50 at lunch, $50 at dinner. But tonight, Friday, I think could be a big one, and it's Lent, right? So I don't know if people are just going to not order food, if they're going to order more fish shit. I don't know. know but Friday and what I've learned in door dashing two Fridays is Friday is a big day Friday night last night or last Friday was my first Friday night and I probably could have stayed out till eight nine ten o'clock I try to get home earlier you know because I want to hang out but tonight Ross is at the daycare until nine so Jilly and I are going to go find a fish fry for Lent right not I want to be very clear it's
Starting point is 00:07:04 not like I'm eating fish because I'm Catholic. Not that I'm judging you if you are, but it's like, Hey, it's fish fries. I'm going to cash in on like all the catfish and the delicious treats, right? Then we're just going to ride around until we have to go pick up Ross at daycare and see how many deliveries I can make. I'm well into the 500 so far this week. So if I play my cards right, I can get myself near 700 bucks. I talk about it every day on here and I get it. People get sick of it. Some people do. Most people I'm getting messages from love the DoorDash talk.
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Starting point is 00:09:41 It is non-withdrawable Pick six credits that expire in 14 days limited time offer see terms at pick six dot draft kings dot com slash promos speaking of radio things like i do think i'm getting to a point where i may have to acknowledge that i may not be a radio guy anymore i think we're kind of getting to that point. We have this last month for this lease in this place we're in now that, again, I just had to pay $2,500 for. We may be able to stay one more month. That's kind of the end of the road for us. I think Guy would let us stay month to month if we wanted to for a couple months. But right now, here's what it's looking like for your buddy,
Starting point is 00:10:27 for Jilly and Ross. Our situation is this. We're probably here for this month. We're definitely going to be here for the duration of this month. And worst case scenario, we stay the whole month next month. And by the end of April going into May, we got to figure out what we're going to do with our lives. So basically, I've got a window here of about a month or so to see if I can find a radio job.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And if not, I'm going to acknowledge and accept that I ain't a radio guy anymore because hell, we just watched yesterday. A bunch of people got fired from their radio jobs at Odyssey. The industry seems to be in, not seems to be, it's in a shitty spot where people are getting fired nonstop. I was part of that at Hubbard Broadcasting when they fired a bunch of people. No one shits on Hubbard when they fire a bunch of people, but Odyssey, iHeart, they fire people. It's a huge deal. Josh Ennis is part of a big layoff at Hubbard. No one cares because people talk about Hubbard like they're so great, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So I am at a point where I've applied for the job in Houston and haven't heard anything about it. Now, maybe nobody who's applied for the job has heard anything about it, but I know this. I've had multiple people who were willing to reach out on my behalf and say that this radio station should hire me. Important people, people in Houston, people in the radio industry, people who know the management at this station saying that this is the guy you should hire. And honest to God, I am telling you that there is not a better candidate for that job than me. It's not to be arrogant. It's not because I think I'm big shit. It's just obvious. You've got someone who's worked there for 10 years, had great success in the market, knows the market, has had success in this format, classic rock now. It makes sense. But if I'm not even going to get a call about it,
Starting point is 00:12:06 like I've applied now, that's not to say that I won't get a call. That's not to say that other people haven't gotten a call about it or have or haven't. Maybe they already know who they want, and I can't help if they already know who they want. That's the other thing about radio jobs, too, is a lot of times they just post them and they know who they want to hire already anyway. That's happened with me before. Like you have to post post the job because of a legality thing, but they already kind of know who they want. It's like the Rooney Rule. Like, you have to interview the black candidate or the Asian candidate, whatever. You have to interview them because it's a rule, but you already know who you want to hire.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And I have to accept that. Sometimes they don't want to hire you. Sometimes it truly is a wide open thing and they want to see what's out there and see who they want to hire. In reality, I applied for that job a couple weeks ago. The second the job was available, I posted. I have reached out to the program director in the past and never got a return email or return text message. So part of me thinks, you know what? Fuck it. They're not interested. Maybe they are, maybe they're not. But you have to start acknowledging these things that maybe even though things make the most sense in the world and you've got the backing of big time people in Houston on your side and you've got the audience posting on all of your shit that like, hey, we want you back in Houston. Maybe these people just don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Maybe they either know who they want or they just don't care. Maybe they just want to throw some slapdick on the radio and exist for a while until they inevitably get fired. Maybe that's it. But all that said, I don't know. So I've applied for that job. We'll see what happens. I do think I lead the league in being ghosted by people. I'm not going to tell you where this one job was. Well, I'll tell you about, you know, about the Philly when we've talked about, like I had the Philly job lined up back in 2019. I didn't reach out about the job. They reached out to me, 97.5, the fanatic, Joe Bell, the general manager, the cluster there reached out to me via Facebook said, we want you on the fanatic. Great. We started working out a thing where I would do weekends initially. And then eventually I think they were going to move me into an actual show or at least going to see what the reaction was
Starting point is 00:14:08 they flat out told me here's what here's what they told me i'm sure i've told you this before but i'm in one of these fucking moods today because i heard shitty radio when i was dropping ross off at the daycare it's a whole fucking thing so when they reached out this guy joe bell told me he said when i asked the people in the building who I could hire that would get a reaction and who could make an impact, they told me two people. They said Craig Carton. And at the time, Craig Carton was fired by WFAN, and he was about to go to jail for the fake ticket thing or whatever, that ticket scheme. They said either Craig Carton or Josh Ennis. Craig Carton couldn't do it. He's going to jail. So, hey, Josh Ennis, you know, I'm reaching out to you because
Starting point is 00:14:49 I think you could help us win on the Fanatic and I want to win. Cool. So we were setting up a weekend gig initially. That's how it was going to start. Like, all right, here's what we're going to do. Weekends. Let's start that way. I talked to their engineer, got the whole thing. Like we're kind of trying to figure out how to set things up at my house. So you can go blast it back to Philly, all that shit. This was in 2019 before the Rona. I think it was before the Rona. And so we're going to do this. Great. It's going to be awesome. Might've been around the time of the Rona too. Cause I got fired in 2019 March. Oh, it's coming up on the anniversary or is it the anniversary? I don't know. And then, so they do that. They, they reach out to me, uh, in the, uh, on Thanksgiving, it was Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:15:29 2019. So we're probably setting this up for early 2020. I'm like, cool works. And they said, we're going to reach out to you and make sure we get everything set up week passes. I don't hear anything and I'm starting to get kind of leery. right? So we're doing a thing on a Saturday. It's probably Tuesday or Wednesday and I text this Joe Bell and I say, hey Joe, what's the latest, man? So we got anything set up? What's the deal? And he goes, I'm going to call you. And I'm like, shit, I know exactly what the fuck's going to happen here. He's going to call and he's going to tell me that we're not going to do it. And I knew it. Like, you know, when you just know something instantly, like you just know you have a vibe. Like I knew I was getting fired in St. Louis for four months. Cause I felt the vibe
Starting point is 00:16:12 switch. The vibe went from like, we're doing everything we can to see if we can make the show successful to quietly just not doing things we said we were going to do. Like we had this plan to do a bit where we were going to sell t Like we had this plan to do a bit where we were going to sell t-shirts and one was going to be like, I hate Josh Ennis. I love Josh Ennis. And whichever one sold more, like there'd be a, it was a contest. We were going to do that. We had a meeting about it. I want to say like in May, it was either April or May. I forgot when it was like, yeah, we'll probably do this. Like in June, it'd'd be a good bit we can sell a bunch of shirts and they'll get the audience engaged okay cool and then as time went on no one brought it up again it just went away and like it was supposed to happen I want to say in May or June
Starting point is 00:16:54 never heard anything about it and I'm like that's what's happening here is they're just trying to make sure like they're just not going to bring it up because if they bring it up they whatever but they're not going to bring this up because they just want it to go away because they know they're going to fire me. They know. And I knew for a long time they were going to fire me because they kept telling me that, you know, that they don't have the money they used to have. And trust me, I was making way too much money for the job I was doing anyway. So I had the awareness, unlike a lot of these people who got fired yesterday and probably thought that they were set and that they were shocked they got fired. I have a lot of self-awareness. I knew I
Starting point is 00:17:28 was going to get fired. I was telling the guy I was doing the show with every day. I'm like, Scott, we're going to get fired. And he's like, oh no, we're not. I'm like, Scott, I know these things. I have an intuition. I have a multiple time fired guy's intuition about these things. I have a sixth sense. We're going to get fired. And inevitably we, you know, we got fired. But anyway, back to the Philly thing. So I had a hunch. So he calls me and he's like, um, you know, we just can't do it because of Mike was essentially what it came down to. And I just went off. I'm like, you know, fuck you guys. You know, I got all super pissed about it. And I'm like, go fuck yourself, man. Like this is bullshit. And you know, it's fucking bullshit. And that was that. But what's funny is I don't know that they would have even reached out.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Like talking about how I get ghosted. A lot of these people just don't have the guts to look you straight in the face or have the guts to, you know, tell you that they're not going to use you. So, um, I don't know that he even would have called. I would have been sitting there Saturday like, Hey, we doing a show? And they said, no, we're not. So I don't know. But so there was that one. Recently, I had someone reach out and I won't tell you where it was. But a friend of mine said, you should reach out to such and such and just see if they have anything. And really, I only
Starting point is 00:18:36 reached out because I like the way the radio station sounded. I like to reach out to people if I think they're doing a good job. Not that they give a shit what Josh Ennis thinks about their radio station, but I like to reach out if I think it sounds good. So I reached out and said, hey, man, the station sounds fucking great. Music's on point. Good job. I get a message back. Hey, you interested in coming to town and working with us? I'm like, fuck, why not? So over the course of Thanksgiving of last year, I'm sitting in Memphis at the Peabody Hotel where I was staying with Dad and everybody, and I'm texting back and forth with this person
Starting point is 00:19:11 about the station, the music. They're telling me all the issues with the station, morning shows too old, we need some new blood in there, our morning people don't, like they're a little too old, they don't want to really engage in a lot of stuff, we need someone who's willing to get out and engage and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, fuck, this sounds great, man. I'd love to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:30 About a month goes by and I have a phone call with this person. Nice like phone call and you know, whatever. And it sounds like there's at least a possibility there. They're like, we'll see what we got. Then about a month, month and a half goes by, give or take. I don't hear anything. And I send it. then about a month, month and a half goes by give or take, I don't hear anything and I'm like, I'm getting that feeling again like, yeah, they're not going to hire
Starting point is 00:19:50 me, like again, you can sense it, you know it, like you feel it, there's a moment that you feel it could happen, then you're like, ain't no fucking chance so I find an excuse to reach out, because I haven't texted this person in, you know, weeks or whatever so I said, hey, did I ever send you my audio stuff for you to hear?
Starting point is 00:20:05 And then that's when the person comes back and says, the text starts with like, oh, hey, buddy. And I'm like, shit. Hey, buddy. Yeah, listen, we're not going to be able to do anything. Turns out we're just going to stick with the morning show we have, man. So couldn't find anything for you. I'm really sorry. And I'm like, I guarantee you, if I wouldn't have reached out, I would have just never heard from these people again. Never. But what's funny about when people want to hire you is they tell you how bad the people they already have on staff are because they're trying to make you want to come there. They're like, don't you want to work here? Like we need you. And then they don't hire you. And then they stick with the people you have,
Starting point is 00:20:44 knowing that you know, and have texts of all and then they stick with the people you have knowing that you know and have texts of all the shit they've said about their current employees like these people just are willing to say dumb shit to me like i'm not so i'm not gonna go tell these people what their people say about them because i'm not a piece of shit no i wouldn't want someone to do that to me i guess so i wouldn't do it like unless they really piss me off but like that's kind of how it was in St. Louis in St. Louis these dudes I worked for would talk shit about everybody and I'm like why are you telling me all this like you're inevitably gonna fire me I now know where all of your bodies are buried I know all your fucking secrets and you're telling me all this shit you're telling me what
Starting point is 00:21:21 this person makes how they suck how you're probably going to fire them and replace them with this but i'm like why are you telling me all this like what makes you like what is it about me that makes people tell all of the shit they hate about their current employees and then i'm the one that always ends up fucked in all of it it's fascinating it truly is like like i like here in st louis it was the most fascinating because these guys just sit around do whatever and they would tell me about everybody who wasn't good. And they'd be like, well, I'm probably going to have to fire this guy next month. And I'm like, I'm not management. I'm just a fucking asshole that you're inevitably going to fire.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Why do you tell me this shit? And the same thing happened there with this person that was trying to hire me at this other job like they're like yeah our morning show is old and tired and and doesn't it's it just doesn't really fit what we want to do and blah blah blah blah and we really want to do something different and blah blah blah oh it was fucking fantastic though because then then they're like geez sorry we're just gonna stick with the show that we talked all this shit about but we we're happy to have it. I have to be the king of getting ghosted for these things, though. It's fascinating, man. It really is. It's fascinating. Then today I'm listening to the radio in St. Louis, and I guess they're running a best of on this radio station, even though they never address it as a best of. All it is is taking
Starting point is 00:22:37 old clips from other shows and playing them. The problem is they leave the song intros, they leave the teases in. So it's like, hey, coming up at 830, we're doing such and such. Yeah, it's 915 dipshit. Like, how hard is this? Like, I used to put max effort into doing these shows that I did in Nashville, right? And by that, I mean, I was on in Nashville, Memphis, and Detroit. And essentially, it wasn't like a true simulcast because it's not like everything I did in Nashville went live in Detroit and Memphis. That's not how it worked.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like I have a system where I can see when there's a talk position in Detroit and then I could record it in there instantly and it would show up in five minutes and it would air in Detroit. But I tried to make it unique content. I would spend hours a lot of times I to kind of streamline it what I would do is if I did a generic story on like a Monday in Nashville kind of like what you would call a show prep service type story where it's it's it's it's just kind of can work anyway it's evergreen it could work anytime anyplace anywhere right so I would use those and um I would then cut that up for the next day in Memphis and Detroit so So I would try to cut out any references to Nashville or whatever. I mean, I spent hours doing this every fucking day
Starting point is 00:23:52 because I'd be embarrassed if something slipped up and it was obvious that I was, that it sounded bad. I put forth max effort into this. So like, and I would do it in real time. There were times I was doing three shows simultaneously so like every day I was like so I would leave a couple of spots open in each show where I could do something that's current from that morning so like if you know I don't know Stairway to Heaven is playing in Nashville I'm like well shit here I got about nine minutes let's record something for Detroit so I'd say battle let's do this so then I'd say man the Lions lost last night like what the fuck was Dan Campbell doing we'd talk about that for So I'd say battle, let's do this. So then I'd say, man, the Lions lost last night. Like what the fuck was Dan Campbell doing? We'd talk about that for five. I'd send it on down
Starting point is 00:24:29 the line. It would show up in Detroit and it would air. I feel like I put real effort into that. I tried. I wanted it to sound good because my name was on it. I didn't want it to sound like shit. I'm listening to this show, which shouldn't even have a fucking best of, because it's not a real show. It's basically a fucking air shift. And I'm listening to this and I'm't even have a fucking best of because it's not a real show it's basically a fucking air shift and i'm listening to this and i'm like you fuckers couldn't take the time to like to put in like like they'd be there was a point and again this is just radio shit that maybe none of you care about maybe i care about it too much but i'm listening to it and it's like all right doobie brothers coming up right now and then it just went to commercials i'm like you guys couldn't have edited this shit down first of all the content's not good enough to be a best of it's not best of
Starting point is 00:25:08 content because you don't do best of content you're a disc jockey but if you're gonna do it edit the shit out of it like it drives me fucking insane as someone who like tried to put max effort into that shit oh it drives me fucking nuts i just all right anyway more to come

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