The Josh Innes Show - Le Batard Crew Breaks Down Pate/Trump Interview

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

It appears the crew from the Dan Le Batard Show is not pleased with how Josh Pate handled his interview with Donald Trump. I know what I've read on Twitter. Let's listen to the actual breakdown and see what they have to say. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I make fun of them all the time. I spent a whole show making fun of Kid Rock. It was like Santa Claus for these wackos. But anyway, so all that to tell you this. There's been a lot of stuff that's been going on on my social media, which is very rare that my social media is as active as my social media has been lately. But with that said, let's talk about a couple of things that, kind of fall into this category.

Let's start here with this new one. Let's talk about radio programs and people that I used to really like who have now just kind of fallen off like a cliff. One of those people is Dan Lebitard. And we talk about Lebitard a lot. Some of my tweets about Dan have kind of gotten legs because he's got a – here's the problem, right? Like my thoughts on Dan Lebitard are not because Dan is super warm. or anything that I think his show sucks now. I don't think Dan gives a shit.

I don't think he tries. He looks depressed all the time. He looks sad all the time. He's lost his foil on the show. Stugats isn't there. It used to be a fantastic show. The Dan Lebitard show was an elite level radio show, and it was at its best when there was someone that was in a position of being higher up,

a management type that was the guy, like he was railing against people who were trying to censor him basically. It's like when Stern was at his best. Has Stern truly been at his best as a radio show, not as an interviewer, but as a radio show that engages people? Is he truly at his best on XM where he has no rules? Part of what made Stern relatable to people is he was fighting the man. That was the whole point of what made Stern Stern.

He is fighting the man. So if he's fighting the man, that's fun. if he no longer has to fight the man, then he just gets to do the dumb shit and there's no one telling him no. And if no one's there to tell you no to get your audience behind you to have your audience go, yeah, do it. Then what? And I think that's kind of what we've run into with Stern.

And I think that's what we ran into with Dan Lebitard. Dan Lebitard's hit this kind of like this kind of, what's the word I'm looking for? I wouldn't even say comfortable because the guy doesn't. look comfortable. He's just kind of collecting a check. He seems joyless. It's not fun. It sucks. It's just not as much fun. But they were talking about a guy by the name of Josh Pate. Now, Josh Pate is a gentleman who has a podcast, and this podcast is called Josh Pate's College Football Show, as I think what the show is call now. Josh Pate's college football show. And it's a, look, it's a fine show. Like, I more so respect Josh for what he's done compared to what the show actually is content-wise. Like, it's a fine

show. And I like the guy. And during the football season, I'll listen to it. It's not something I seek out once football season is over unless there's a big story. And I want to hear what he has to say. It is not an every day, every week. I think he's only a couple times a week anyway. But it's not something I seek out every day. But once I get into it. to it for a while. I'll listen to it every day. That's kind of how I am with a lot of shit, right? But like, it's fine. This guy went from nothing. He was like kind of a local TV type of guy somewhere in Georgia that started to buy his own airtime on a radio station and now has this really big podcast. And he had the opportunity to interview Trump. And somehow that's super

controversial. Anybody who wants to, you know, interview Trump, it's controversial because why not. So the guys on the Dan Lebitard show who are totally joyless. It's not fun. It's not interesting. And I'm not saying this because of their politics. I don't give a shit about their politics. I really don't. I try to look at these things through the lens of, is it a fun listen? Because there are plenty of people who have wacky, differing views of mine that I find interesting. I love Bill Maher. I think he's funny. I think his show is like snarky and sardonic and he's an asshole. and I think his drunken slash high podcast he does with people is great. Like I have a lot of respect and I enjoy it.

That guy is a super left wing dude, yet here I am, super maga guy who my two favorite people, I think, in the political sphere would be Bill Maher, and I really, really enjoy Adam Carolla. Those are the two guys that I enjoy the most. I think Carolla is the most relatable guy. I think out of all the celebrities that have podcast, I think his backstory is the most relatable. Like I'm sure that, you know, Ben Stiller has had some trials and tribulations in life. Well, Adam Carolla was a fucking construction worker before all this shit. He's got a little bit more real life experience than Ben Stiller who grew up with Anne Mera and Jerry Stiller.

So I view his opinions a little bit differently. And he and Bill Mar are two guys that I enjoy. And I really enjoyed watching the two of them on the same show together a couple weeks ago. So I like Marr. Those are the kind of guys that I enjoy. So the thoughts, the opinions of Dan Lebitard and his people don't necessarily turn me off. It's the lack of joy. Like if you watch the show, which I don't do a ton anymore, but every video I see, Dan looks like he's on the verge of tears.

Everybody on the show is super serious. There's no laughter seemingly. There's no fun. And by the way, you might say, well, Josh, You didn't actually listen because there's a lot of fun. Cool. Maybe there is a lot of fun. Here's the issue, though.

For all the fun that you say is out there, cool. The issue you run into with that is that everything they post, all of their social media shit seems to be miserable. It seems to be like, like it just, it conveys this vibe of misery, right? And that's kind of what you get out of those guys. But their latest thing is this dude on the show, who I think is, largely talentless. I guess he's like the new kind of second Mike. He's been there forever. What's this guy saying? Mike is his name, Mike Ryan. And he's been there forever, but he used to

just be, you know, the guy that would say a couple things. And that was it. He was kind of like third, fourth mic guy. Well, now he is, you know, the other guy on the show because everybody else is pretty much gone, right? Like Stugats left, he took a couple people with him. And bless his heart, like, I haven't listened to any of the Stugott stuff. Apparently he's got a radio show on Fox. everything I've heard from people that are radio people is like, hey, stick to your old job. Like everything about the way things are going for Lebitard, how fractured it is, how weird it is. Like, it's all just gotten strange, right? Like, it used to be like you had Stugats, he had a perfect role.

He played like the kind of over-the-top fake sports radio guy and then Dan would be annoyed, whatever. Now you've just got Dan being angry at the world and really sad. It doesn't even seem angry. Seems sad every day. Seems mad that he has to go into work every day. and Stu Gots is over here trying to do a legitimate sports talk show that no one's fucking listening to. Just a disaster for these guys. But they're making money, so more power to them.

But anyway, these guys are seemingly upset because there was an interview with Trump and Josh Pate. So let me hear some of the audio. I haven't listened to any of this. I've seen the comments about it. So let's listen to this. And let's see what my man thinks. Also, why is the show still called the Dan Lebitard show with Stugats? Is like Stugat's no longer a person?

Is it just like a vibe? Is it like when Kid Craddock died, but they still called it the Kid Craddock morning show? Like is it whenever, you know, like eight simple rules dating my teenage daughter? Like, well, hell, John Ritter died, but it's still eight simple rules dating my teenage daughter. Even though your teenage daughter, it's like your teenage granddaughter now. But anyway, let's see. This goes back to the Doc Rivers Press Conference Lab. It's like you got, this is someone who of power and authority.

who we've got to be on good terms with. So I'm going to laugh even if the joke isn't funny. But when it's, but when it, I'm telling you, man, when it is about wrapping yourself in old glory, and if you push back on that, while it's a completely valid thing to observe, Roy, that, man, that's a weird crack to make it, against the, the women who were, are a dynasty in their sport to make that correct. bring that up, you're going to hear from people about, you can't, why are you such a snowflake, Roy? Why can't you get behind? This is a great moment for the country. I want to go back to the is the reaction. I'm not. So those guys are actually talking about the thing with the president,

which I didn't get into, but I agree with them that like why, but I've gotten to a point now where I don't ask why about Trump shit because I think Trump's a fucking imbecile with a lot of the shit he does. I think he's imbecilic. I don't take him seriously. I don't take him serious. as a human and a lot of shit. It's like, it's not like he's playing a character, but there's an expectation, right? There's an expectation that I have with the guy where I'm like, of course, this guy's going to say dumb shit. Of course, he's so self-absorbed that he's going to say, well, they'll probably impeach me.

They're going to impeach me if I don't invite the women. I don't know. I'm not shocked by anything he does or appalled by anything he does. I just, I don't care. Like, you've hit a point where you just kind of get it. It's like, once your dad's been like a drunk for long enough, nothing. he does really surprises you. You know, that's kind of how I feel about Trump.

Like, I'm not worked up over the fact that he said the thing about the lady hockey. Because real talk, what did you expect from him? Saying I'm not, I'm living in the world that exists. It's not the one that I want to have to deal with it. I'm going to surprise you. Like, for me, this one didn't even register on the threshold of like, wow, the politics is really ruining this moment. Maybe it's because the moment was so unprecedented in my lifetime.

Maybe it was something that we were chasing for so long. I truly, or maybe it's because I built up a little bit of a callus. Like Cash Patel, it ain't going to really register with me. Now, you know, Chelsea Club World Cup on the stage, Donald Trump being there, presenting the championship and being in team photos, I'm like, this one's making it difficult. I think when you consider the balance of how much politics has been injected into sports, yeah, I wasn't crazy about the looks of that video.

Also, the people who've been injecting politics into sports would be the Dan Lebitard people. Like, it's not like, like, you can't. And it goes both ways. But you can't just sit there and say, all the politics that's injected into sports. Well, we're used to it now. It's happened for the last decade plus, almost a decade and a half from Kaepernick. Dude, you want to really go to the root of it?

Go to the shit with fucking Tebow. Oh, back before Josh was super right-wing wacko. Josh was sitting there on the radio shitting on the Tebow, holy roller. So, like, come on, man. But to say that politics is super injected in all this, of course it is. And you all do it. the shot that he took at the women's team. But all in all, I'm like, this one, we can survive this one.

We can enjoy sports still. And it's a shame that, you know, I understand why a lot of people don't feel that way. I agree with you. Obviously, I agree with that sentiment. What I'm saying is, is it going to put a stink on those guys, given what may go down in the next year three? Well, it obviously put a stink on those guys because all of your left-wing media, brother and friends and all the idiots on social media, now talk about these guys like they're misogynist

because they're on the phone with the president. The president makes a joke. What the hell are you going to do? Like, is somebody from the hockey team that's just celebrating this epic moment for them? Like, explain to me what they're supposed to do in that spot. Like, what is supposed to happen there? What are you like, like the president makes some sort of joke. You're supposed to go, hey, hey, Mr. President, eat shit.

Ladies can do stuff now. Forecash. Yeah, I don't think this administration's going to age particularly well. It's not like Obama was in the locker room yucking it up. Like, I can't believe I was with Obama after what we now know about Obama. It's part of, you know, the Josh Pate thing that we discussed last week. I was just like, as a Josh Pate fan and as a fan of that show, I'm also a little bum like, dude, are you sure you want to do this?

So you want to see. This is the part that annoys people, okay? And I'll finish this. Here's why left-wing people annoy me, right? Because as a fan of Josh Paid, as a fan of this, I'm bum that you're having this guy on, basically, is the thing here. The problem is the Dan Levitard show has had Trump on, right? I mean, and I understand, look, it's not apples to apples.

Trump before Trump was the president, it's a different person, different guests than Trump post-being president. I'm aware of that. I get it. I'm cool with that. what I don't like is the lecturing. Like, do we really have to do that? Yeah, it's his fucking podcast.

He can do whatever the fuck he wants. You guys want to sit here and dick around with Pablo Tori talking about who Bill Belichick is fucking in a 10-part fucking expose. The guy's going to talk to the president. He is the president. Why does this bother you so much? And have a... You know why? I know what his intentions were.

I know what he said, what he advertised this interview. in terms of like what it was going to be about. It was going to be an NIL discussion about college football. And the president certainly has opinions there and has power to do that something about it. It's not about that. It's not about that. It's the same reason all those comedy podcasts had them on before the election. It's not about it.

A lot of people falsely say, oh, do tell me. Do tell me why all the comedy podcasts had him on. These guys are all mag. I'm like, they're not. They just want the views. You have the president on. It is a massive boost. So what's wrong with that?

The reason they have to feed it to you that they want to have him on to talk about blank and blank is because all of the people who fall into your political category, those same people will tell them how terrible they are for having him on. Of course they just want to have the president on to play fucking grab ass and get viewers. That's why you do this. Like Josh Pate is a guy who created his own sandbox. From nothing, by the way.

This wasn't a guy who wrote. for a newspaper and that transition to doing a talk radio show which led to a TV show and a talk show on ESPN. And I'm not trying to rip Lebitr because Lebitr made something of himself too. Like I respect the shit out of everything Dan Lebitard did in his career. My issue is, obviously yes, because you're in the business where every view and every click matters. I don't like people who go on and say shit deliberately on a tweet to try to get retweets and shit. But if you're trying to get people to watch your fucking show and that's how you make your money, every download, Why do you think when I'm on here, I'm like, guys, even if you don't listen, download.

Because every download I get is the difference between, I don't know how many cents per download or whatever it is. But there are some months I can make 15, 16, 1,700 bucks doing this. I think the best month I've had doing it in the current format. I made like 2,500 bucks one month doing this. That's the point. The point is to get viewers. So I don't know where he's going with this. But the argument that like, oh, you're just doing that for views.

Yeah, that's the point. especially when that's your livelihood. It's one thing if you're getting a base salary from someone and it doesn't matter. It's another thing when you're out there and it's clicks and it's downloads and it streams and that's how you make your money. Like my buddy Matt, and I don't know how much he makes to do this, but my buddy Matt is part of the locked on network. And I'm sure you've all seen these locked on things like, hey, it's locked on LSU. It's locked on the Saints. It's locked on the Texans, right?

And I had a phone call with these guys once because Matt suggested me to them and they just couldn't find. anything for me and that I never fucking heard from them again. So whatever, eat shit, I guess. But these guys, if they get the right audience for this shit, they make good money doing this for 30 minutes of work a fucking day. And it all comes down to downloads and views. So that's the world. Just like back when you guys were on radio and you had to do stunts, like when Dan Lebitard sold his Hall of Fame vote or whatever, do you think Dan Lebitard doesn't know he's going to get a shit ton of attention for that?

Of course he does. That's the name of the game. Whether people love them or hate them, or also whether your fan base loves that president and hates that president. It is a massive thing. And we live in a time where that economy of attention is more important than ever. And we also, you could argue that. But the economy of attention has always mattered.

How did Howard Stern become Howard Stern? Because people talked about him all the fucking time. Like there's a belief that there were a lot of people that didn't even listen to Howard Stern. But in the era of diaries, of me, of diaries. So like when you ever had to grab a little booklet, they had to write down, which in some cities is still the case, which is absurd, but you'd have to write down what time you listen and who you listen to. Name recognition mattered.

I would guarantee you, and there's a belief of this, that there were a lot of people who never even listened to Stern, but he was the only name they knew. They had a diary. They made a couple bucks to fill it out, so they write down Howard Stern. How true that is, I don't know. But like that, the name of the game in the 1980s, 90s, whatever, before they added these PPM meters that people wear to gauge the radio ratings, which are all flawed.

Anyway, the whole system sucks. But these people would need their names out there, and that's how you got attention. That's how people knew who you were. That's why billboards used to be so important. How often do you see a radio station billboard anymore? You know, how often it billboards, signage, bus bench ads, bus ads, those matter. Commercials. They all mattered.

Why did they matter? Because that's how you got attention. So while I agree that, yes, in 2026, podcasts and everything downloads and attention matters, this is not some new development. It teaches to a grassroots level. It used to be there with the gatekeepers. And we always talk about gatekeepers in a bad way. Like, oh, stop gatekeeping. But the reality is it also insulates the individuals from that impulse of just anything for retention.

But now that we've removed the gatekeeping of- Here the thing is, though, and again, this is obvious, you guys don't have a gatekeeper anymore. You're basically explaining why the Dan Lebitard show sucks now. And I agree with them. There's an element of having a gatekeeper that I think makes things better because it creates a common enemy. Stern versus the FCC. Lebitard versus ESPN. That matters.

And it made it better. These guys don't have a gatekeeper anymore. And since they don't have a gatekeeper anymore, their content suffers. Like, I am a big proponent of gatekeepers. I think I was better on 790 than I am doing this because there is an element of their needing to be a gatekeeper. You need to have someone keeping score. When left my own devices, I'm not as good.

I need someone there that's either, in some cases a really good coach that makes me better, or in some cases it's an enemy. That matters. Broadcast, television networks, and all that stuff, and it's literally any guy with a camera and a microphone, if I have the right connections, I can get the guest on, and now my show can be a thing.

at that point your boy Josh Pate is not thinking oh wait my sports washing he's thinking about oh my God this is it of course he is what's wrong with that

again do you think when Dan Lebitard was selling his vote for the Hall of Fame I think it was a baseball Hall of Fame maybe do you think he doesn't know it's going to get him attention like of course it is bro this is how we crack over

with a pardon my take and Levitard show And Bill Simmons pod, that's how I break through. It's no different wrestling. You know, WWE is losing to WCW back in the late 90s. Monday Night Raw losing to Nitro. What does Monday Night Raw do? Hey, we throw in, we add Mike Tyson.

So do you think they just added Mike Tyson because they thought the quality would improve? Or do you think they added Mike Tyson because people will go, holy shit, Mike Tyson's on wrestling? Come on, man. Football American. And I understand why people applied that scrutiny on the front end. I wanted to believe Josh Pate when he said, this is not going to be a political discussion. I'm going to ask him about NIL and college football and how we shape that.

I listened to the interview this morning on my way. It was shorter than I thought. Paid actually explained why. He said things changed with the schedule. And I will say that it wasn't a political discussion. I think Pate and now I don't know how much was edited. But there was one moment where Trump patted himself on the back about the job that he did with Venezuela, but even for Trump, who meanders and rambles a lot, like, he didn't inject a lot of that

into the conversation. What the thing about Trump that I don't get about why he does all these interviews still is you're not campaigning. So what does it matter? Like, I understood why you went and did all the podcast during the campaign. I don't understand why you do it now. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, you can't be president again, contrary to what he might believe.

You're not going to be president again. So I don't know why he continues to campaign, but that's how his mental makeup is. it's weird. Or also it wasn't college football. It was actually really embarrassing because there was one soft toss to the president, like, what would you do about this? And he started rambling about how the gamecocks are good and the NFL kickoff rule. And it was just bad.

He's really hot on that NFL kickoff rule. All he talks about. He was playing is. Which is also a dumb take. Like, you ain't lying there, dudes. That dude loves that fucking topic. And it's a throwaway lame topic that I don't see that many people truly bitching about anymore except Trump people who are like,

Yeah, I agree. Paul hits. But then like the very next question is like, you know, would you talk about on the golf trip? And he blew up Urban Meyer's spot. We said it was a bipartisan conversation about college football and said like Trump was like, yeah, they were asking me about Iran, which was funny. But there was nothing there in terms of substantial NIL opinion. Did you think there was going to be?

I thought so after Josh Pate taped it and said that's what the conversation was going to be. I have the full list of nine questions here. It was more like, hey, how do you hire the people that you hire? What have you learned about being president twice? The Lincoln bedroom story. Tell me about that. I think now, there's a fair criticism. And again, I didn't listen to the Josh Payton thing.

But there's a fair criticism of people whenever they don't ask the proper follow-ups or they don't go back. Again, it's the president. It's a weird world. I'm sure there's a bunch of shit you have to agree to before it happens, right? Like, I would assume that. So I get that part. but and there's fair criticisms to have of people if they don't ask the proper follow-ups or don't bounce back or whatever or I say bounce back but don't you know return serve right um and I look I don't know if Josh Pate's a good

interview or not I've never really seen him in an interview setting all that much I've heard his podcast podcast podcast is fine like I like him as a person and I admire what he's built but I guess that the expectation for that is how good is that actually going to be and I don't know I know what the expectation should have been. So at the end of it, we got an interview that no doubt will raise Josh Pate's profile, a profile that is ascending. I am curious about that because, like I just said, DeRoy, you've got to live in the world that exists, not the one you wish were true.

And I feel like a lot of the people that I've seen online going at Josh Pate in advance of this were kind of hoping this is going to damage your career, man. Like Amin just said, oh no, Josh Pate understood this is going to enhance. Well, okay, let's start looking at college football. And yes, there are big college football teams in the north. You can go to Ohio State, Michigan, whatever. But who really makes up the most important clientele for college football? I don't have the data in front of me, but let's just go out of the limb here and say it's probably conservative type people.

And if not super psychotic maga people, it's probably not hardcore bat shit crazy liberal people. Not saying that all liberal people are bat-shick crazy. Liberal people. What I'm saying is I'm going to guess that the audience for college football is not the craziest of the people. And it probably skews right of center. And those people, while they may not like Trump or be MAGA, they probably also don't, like, they don't get psychotic over it. Anybody who's going to get psychotic over him having Trump on is probably not someone who's a huge clientele already of the Josh Pate college football. ball show. I'm going to guess that the bone in their nose blue-haired barista at Starbucks

probably isn't already listening to Josh Pate. So I don't think you're, I do not believe that Josh Pate is in grave danger. Is there any other kind of danger? Grave danger. I don't believe that there is, he's in grave danger of losing a huge chunk of his audience because of that. I never heard of Josh Pate until this came up. dismiss the critiques that he got from people on that side of the aisle saying, how are you normalizing this person? He dismissed a lot of those criticisms as criticisms generated by bots, which wasn't the greatest look.

Also, not how the bots are working lately. Yes, the bot ones are also a lame way to do things. I agree. Yeah, Trump got what he wanted to, which was a sports platform, normalizing him. And I would also ask the why. Why does Trump need to be normalized? Like, are you just working on legacy at this point? Again, you're not campaigning.

Bringing an audience to Josh Pate. Unless you're trying to deflect away from the Epstein shit. And you're a snowflake if you complain about that arrangement. That's my point. Right. But you are. It's really, it's all about the way you delivered. If you're someone who's just upset because he talked to the president and he's giving a platform to someone who's a pedophile, as people put it,

then of course. You cannot make noise about that or Cash Patel or otherwise or be attacked by a large percentage of the country. This guy's annoying because he's obviously just looking at the most narrow group of people, the people that are going to call you. He's just, he gets his feelings hurt over these idiots calling him a snowflake is obviously what this guy with the accent is. Being soft or a, like I hate people that make that argument. Oh, I can't feel this way without being a snowflake. You can feel however the fuck you want. Don't pay attention to the people calling you a snowflake, snowflake.

No flake or unpatriotic. But it didn't achieve anything. Other than that, just maybe and to the skepticism that Amin is applying to it, maybe that was the goal at the end of the day. But it was just, it was a bad interview with a rambling. And look, these might be fair points. I didn't listen to it. I don't think he's unfair or over the top or psychotic in the way he's delivered this criticism of it.

But again, you read the shit that people post online. It's just one word. Embarrassing. interview subject that actually didn't know anything about college football and didn't have anything to say on the matter. And Josh Pate didn't accomplish what he set out to do in terms of the gambit of we're going to have an NIL discussion. And that's why you take the president on. This guy is very powerful when it comes to reshaping the sport. I don't think this has been an unfair criticism based on an interview I haven't heard, mind you.

But I don't think it's unfair. Like, I don't think he's like, I don't think anything he has said, even though I think these guys are pretty wacko and their political beliefs. And I think by and large the show is boring and these guys have a very you know for the audience they think josh paid appeals to they appeal to the opposite side of that audience i don't think people listen to this stuff anymore that are balanced i think like their audience is probably super duper on one side of the fence on this and hey that's their audience and that's fine but um i don't think there's anything this guy has said in here that's like oh that's terrible you can get any of that you could have on himself for 22 minutes literally as long as he said i got president trump on that's all it is about man and by

Yeah. Thank you. Again, I mean, appreciate you for stating the fucking obvious. Like, you really knocked it out of the park there, bud. Yes, you're trying to get eyes and ears on your show. That's why you have any guests. Why do you have any guest on the show? It's because you think it's a, why does W.EEI and Boston have the coach on every week? Why was Tom Brady on W.EEEI every week? Because it brings people to your show. Like, congrats. By the way, Trump does get something out of that beyond that, like all the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. broadcasts, the comedy broadcasts from last year, two years ago. He did to the people. God, who could listen to this guy fucking talk. Well, he wants to play to specific. He's on the, uh, the broadcast. In Georgia. In Georgia. How Gunner's a great QB and he loves Gunner and he loves Nick Sabin. Gunners a great cubee. And he loves and he loves herb. Well, mission accomplished that.

He got, he. He played the greatest hits there. Yeah, there's a reason why. They picked the varsity in Atlanta, Georgia, playing in that state, which is an important state for the midterms. And there's a reason why they pick Josh Pate's football program. But the bottom line, what's most important, though, is that we... It's most important now. Make sure we separate sports and... I honest, look, I don't have the greatest voice ever. I could not listen to this guy talk for an extended period of time.

Holy shit. Politics. Do you see this? The last 10 minutes of conversation have fed entirely what the stated... thing you people with your taking a knee during the night we got why can't we so we want an escape boy way to bring up you know a 10 year old topic there pal don't you know from the real world that's why we watch sports and the last 10 minutes of this show and a lot of the conversation since that gold medal game is about cash patel's presence in the dressing room and so on this is a lot of

politics on the show today even for me uh am i to believe that they did this at the varsity on North Ave? I did believe it. Let me tell you right now, as a Georgia Tech alum. I don't think it's the one in North Ave. It was in Rome, Georgia, yeah. Us Atlanta Metro, guys, that's probably worse.

It was not on North Al, so it was in Rome. I went to the varsity in North. Everyone who goes to Georgia Tech as a freshman really, you gotta go eat at the varsity, man. That's what we do. You go, you go, oh my God, I go eat at the varsity, and then you realize your bowels are JV, because you are going to be sh-hitting yourself.

Not good? It is not good. Again, you actually listen to the audio. It's not nearly as titillating or sensational as all these stories led you to believe. But again, of course the guy had the president on because the president is the president and you're trying to get eyeballs. Of course you do. Like the idea that like you guys are breaking news with this is preposterous.