The Josh Innes Show - Looking For Logic in "Angels In The Outfield"

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

I don't know how this subject came about, buy my sister is really into an actor who was a pretty big deal in the 80's. Also, Jilly and I watched "Angels In The Outfield" on Friday. I really enjoy it. It's fun to watch 90's kids movies and analyze them with 2025 sports standards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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conversation, my sister, Emily. But Jilly go, it might have been because she was texting her, I asked her some question. Oh, no, I know it started it because I think my sister texted Jilly, it might have been because she was texting her. I asked her some question. Oh no, I know it started it because I think my sister texted Jilly asking how long I actually talked with my dad when he was in town. I guess that was on Thursday or Friday that he was in town last week for a few minutes. And I drove over to see him in the parking lot of a Target. I actually talked with him for about 30 minutes, which I guess is kind of a surprise. But it's also hard to keep dad's attention, right? Because I mean, you get him for a few and once you lose

him, you don't get him back. It's really hard to get him like at dinner and stuff because once he gets on his phone, he's out, you cannot talk with my dad. So you get brief moments and you got to talk with him very quickly. And then like there's a moment that you can tell you've lost him like for about five minutes. He's kind of into and kind of into what you're talking about and then like a switch flips. He picks up his phone and he starts getting some level of anxiety and you can tell when he's getting some level

of anxiety because he starts feeling this neck and I think he does that for he's trying to like feel his lymph nodes or some shit and like once he's doing that and then locked in on his phone. He's out so you got to get it's actually easier to talk to my dad on the phone right now granted you have to get him talking about something he's interested in most of our here's most of our phone conversations because I'll call

him and check in you know, and like I called him today to check in on what um on the uh like on how his he's been on this little tour of comic cons and shit so wanted to get an update on how that was going my dad cannot remember my name my brother's name birthdays or anything But my dad can tell you his exact Comic-Con schedule for the next year and he can tell it to you word for word every time you ask. So like I'll call and go, so where are you off to next? And then he will tell me the next seven months of weekends he's got. My dad could not tell you what he had for breakfast this morning. My dad could not tell you. You put a gun to his head, he could not tell you what he had for breakfast this morning. My dad could not tell you. You put a gun to his head, he could not tell you his son's birthday, or my sister's birthday or my

birthday. Like, he might see it pop up on Facebook. But if you said, Dad, what is the exact date of Emily's birthday? He probably wouldn't know. But he can tell you every little and big Comic Con he's going tell you every little and big comic Connie's going to, every little comic book store he's going to, what date it is. It's fucking wild because he remembers nothing. But I guess it's kind of like what people are kind of ADHD or something. Like if you give them something they're

legitimately into, I guess like their attention is fine. Like you can get people's attention. Like, like some people are great in certain subjects at school, right? Some aren't. Like some subjects you hate and you just don't pay attention, but if it's a subject you like, you just naturally enjoy it. My dad likes talking about his comic cons and he goes to a ton of them and makes money doing them and that's great. He could not tell you his wife's birthday. He could tell you none of this. He might not even be able to tell you his wife's name but he can tell you every little town he's gonna be in for the next seven months. Like I talked to him today he literally laid out, he plotted the

course for all of these comic cons he's going to. It's fascinating but what does this have to do with my sister? Anyway, let me play a couple commercials and we'll continue. The NBA Finals are finally here and after spending the playoffs all over the Pick Six app from DraftKings, well, we're ready for the championship round and this is your last shot to win some real cash before the season ends. The simplest way to get in on the action is downloading the Pick Six app from DraftKings and it's super simple. Just pick more or less on the stats for two or more of your favorite players and boom you're in the mix for big cash prizes. Now you're picks and you're heating up. Pick Six brings upside with payouts up to 500 times. Are you ready to make your finals run? Well, new DraftKings Pick 6 customers can toss in just five

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including New York and Ontario. Voidware prohibited. One per new customer bonus awarded is non-withdrawable Pick 6 bonus picks that expire in 14 days. Limited time offer. Terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. So anyway we're sitting there talking and she goes, also your sister told me that she thinks Steve Gutenberg is really hot. And I'm like, well, that's a random one. Steve Gutenberg, like short circuit police academy, three men and a baby, three men and a little lady. That soccer movie with the fat kid from, with Ham Porter, what was that, The Big Green, which is actually an underrated children's sports film. Speaking of, okay, now, so speaking of underrated children's sports films, sometimes I'll just put shit that I've already watched on while we eat because like we're not going to pay

enough attention to it, but I need some background noise on. So the other night, maybe it was Friday night, I put on Angels in the Outfield because I was kind of going in and out of the house. I probably had something on the smoke or something. So I put on Angels in the Outfield and I start watching it and I forget how good it is. I could say really enjoyable movie, but there's a lot of elements of this movie that you're like, huh, first of all, if you're looking for plot holes in these kind of movies, you can find them all the time or like inaccuracies, you can find them

all the time. But it's a fucking movie about angels helping a baseball team win. So you're not exactly looking for, you know, like logic and a lot of this shit. But it's funny because like certain shit that you see from movies from the 90s and certain kind of plot points and movies from the 90s, that you just wouldn't see today. First of all in the stadium, they don't cover up the signage that's in the stadium. So like when dudes are pitching you're watching in the

background. There's like Budweiser signs. There's Winston cigarette signs. Also, what a wild world it was not that long ago that you'd walk into a ballpark and you would see Winston cigarettes or like we here's something I would urge you guys to watch. Watch the Dale Earnhardt documentary. I think it's three parts on Amazon Prime. And it is Amazon Prime. It's not like an old man, but it's on Prime. And it's I think it was done by was it done by imagine

or something like that. I think that Opie's involved in it in some way, but anyway point being in all of this is it was really good, but you go back and you watch like when it was the Winston Cup and like all these fucking cigarette logos are everywhere and it's like man the world used to be a civilized decent place right like why it's funny to me that cigarettes are off limits, but beer isn't.

Like who made that decision that like, listen, we can't tie ourselves in with cigarettes. Cigarettes are just horrible for you. They're gonna kill you. They're just, they're addictive. And like, wait, we cannot put Winston Cup out there, but a motherfucker can drive with Budweiser on his car. You can have beer logos everywhere.

Like who made this decision about which vice is worse for you? We got gambling. we can still show you all the Draft King shit and we could show you all the beer. Cigarettes is where we have to draw the line guys. Cigarettes are just a little too much. Oh we can show like what are those uh the the the what do they call that shit? Like the smokeless tobacco shit that everybody's into now. Zen, right? Like the Zens. Like we can do all that shit, but what you cannot do is show cigarettes. But anyway, so back to Angels in the Outfield. We're

watching this and it's an enjoyable experience, but some of the shit in this movie are like, huh, that's kind of, you know, adult leaning. First of all, the plot of the movie that the kids' dad's just basically dumping him because, you know, and he throws out throws out hey when the angels win the pennant maybe I'll come back and be your dad again and then of course he has to go to the court and the dad's like nope go fuck yourself you'll make it on your own but then like the one thing in this movie that I was like huh that's really bullshit when you watch kids sports movies and you look for 2025 usage logic and by that I mean like Mel Clark, right? Mel Clark who was on the injured list and hadn't pitched in four years

one day George Knox is like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna start this guy because the kid sees a fucking angel and I'm gonna start George Knox. I'm gonna start Mel Clark. Then all of a sudden Mel Clark becomes a beast and that's all well and good. But then you get to the actual like we have to win this game to go to the playoffs deal and Mel Clark in today's baseball would have been pulled in the first inning yet somehow back in 1994

Angels in the Outfield again. I'm looking for logic in a children's sports movie. I understand that. It's a movie where Angels helped the guys win. I get it. But at one point, Mel Clark would have been removed from this game. Like if if like if he would have been the opener, they wouldn't like like AJ Hinch would have pulled this guy in the first inning. Yet every inning, this guy was facing trouble yet somehow he's still in the game in the ninth inning and at one point and I

totally forgot that this happened but at one point in angels in the outfield. It's looking like the games over right before right before he comes out and the kids sees an angel and they plot the whole thing which by the way kind of a dickish thing to do like I'm torn on that like is it right that they lied to the guy and said the kid season angel or is it like cool that they did like is it right or is it wrong fair or foul whatever but anyway so home

boy goes out and he says he's kids season angel right now and he's here to help you know the whole deal and he does the the wings and **** the whole stadium does it and it's like that's real nice at one point. The other announcer not ranch wilder the guy that's the dickhead that's rooting against the angels yet he's employed by the angels real **** but the other guy was a Monte not Monte that was in major league whatever the kid's name was Mel. No, it's I forgot the guy's point being at one point.

He goes well well they might have to start looking into this and make a move. He's at 156 pitches. 156 pitches in 1994 for a guy that hadn't pitched in four years. I don't know that there was ever a game in which like Bob Gibson threw 156 pitches yet old Mel Clark comes in and he throws 156 pitches and they still he hits a guy and they still don't take him out. He stays in the game. That guy would have been crucified old George Knox would have been crucified on ESPN on first take for that.

Again, I'm looking for logic in The Illogical. It's a kids movie. It's like looking for logic in Little Big League. It's a movie about a kid owning the team and managing the team. Logic does not apply here. It's like looking for logic in Rookie of the Year when a kid breaks his arm and can throw it 150 miles per hour. There is no logic. I'm aware there is no logic, but still I'm sitting there like, wow. And I'd like,

and there used to be more adult themes in these kids movies that you kind of look at. That's kind of like Mighty Ducks. Gordon Bombay is coaching this team because he got a DUI. Like you wouldn't see that in a kids movie now. Coach gets a DUI and drives the limo on. That would never happen. Also, the most illogical thing that happens in kids sports movies is the fat guy being a catcher. That's horrible for their knees and fat guys would not be the catcher. But what brought this up? Oh, I was talking about how my sister thinks Steve Gutenberg is hot, which is totally random, which

well and good. Like if you actually go follow Steve Gutenberg on social media, Steve Gutenberg is actually the most likeable nice human ever. Like if you watch his Instagram, like you know, you associate him with you know, like Police Academy and all that shit. He's just a really nice guy. Now, maybe he's got like dead bodies in a crawl space under his house or something. I don't know, but like he's a super nice dude and my sister finds herself very aroused by Steve Guttman.

My sister's got odd taste and that's fine. She also likes Cody Rhodes. So she likes former stars of the 80s and speech impediment bleach blonde wrestlers. That's what my sister is into. I don't know why that's what she's into but that look like I'm not one to talk about affairs of the heart. What the heart wants what it wants and apparently my sister's heart desires Steve Gutenberg star of Three Men and a

Little Lady and Three Men and a Baby which allegedly had a ghost in the window. That's one of those great Hollywood urban legends. There's a ghost. It's not really a ghost. It's actually just a cardboard cutout of Ted Danson. But the idea is that it's a ghost and the ghost is in the window. Go back and watch that scene where his mom comes over to the house in three minutes a baby and watch the scene. If you have it, they say it's a ghost. They also say there's one of the midges hanging up in a tree in the

Wizard of Oz, but I don't think that's true either. say it's a ghost. They also say there's one of the midges hanging up in a tree in the Wizard of Oz, but I don't think that's true either. But it's fun because Hollywood urban legends are really good time and there also you should go watch Angels in the Outfield because Angels in the Outfield is actually a wonderful film and it's fun and Danny Glover is great and Mel Clark those like 160 pitches. Those a complete game in this must-win game. They had the bullpen up and throwing like multiple times. I might watch Rookie of the Year tonight to see

Chet Stedman because he looks over at the manager and he's like, give me one more, one more! And then he throws the, you know, the rocket, you know, gets out of that situation and everything to, look, I want to watch kids baseball movies now. Mount Rushmore of children's baseball movies, right? Sandlot, Angels in the Outfield, Little Big League. I like Little Big League more than I like Rookie of the Year because Little Big League seems to have a little bit more realistic feel

and there's some actual baseball players in it. And then I guess I got to throw one more. What's another kids baseball movie to throw in there? Bad News Bears. Not Bad News Bears where they go to Houston or not Bad News Bears when they go to Japan. Actual first Bad News Bears. Anywho, more to come.