The Josh Innes Show - Lying Media And Uncle Joey

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Hello! I have a podcast you guys should listen to. It's called "Out The Mud" with Tony Allen and Zach Randolph of the Memphis Grizzlies. Today I've seen a few click bait headlines that have pissed me off. One is political and one is about an about a celebrity with cancer. I really hate the idea the idea that people are so beyond stupid that they fall for anything as long as it validates their world view. Do you know about the Mandela Effect? It's one of my favorite things to discuss. I saw an example of this that blew my mind today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, friends. What's going on? It's Josh. After a long day of procuring some meat to make for dinner for the next couple of weeks and listening to podcasts, here we are. It's me again. By the way, speaking of podcasts, there's a podcast that I suggest to you, and it may mean nothing to most of you because I guarantee you the vast majority of the people listening to this have zero interest in the Memphis Grizzlies particularly the grit and grind era Grizzlies from like 2009 10 11 12 13 14 maybe I want to say that run kind of faded in about 15 or 16 I mean it was a good six or seven year run the apex of that run occurred uh when they went to the conference finals against the Spurs and um what year was that 11 I forget if it was 10 or 11 I think it was either 10 or I think it was 11 because me and Jilly were together at the time so it might have actually been 12 because we were in LA for something I have no idea what we were there for maybe no actually it might have been 11 I don't know.

Either way, that was like the high point of it where they went to the conference finals and they lost. They were swept by San Antonio. But it was still a hell of a time. And I love that era. Like those kind of teams I loved. I have a tie to Memphis a little bit because I lived there when I was a kid. We would go to Memphis a lot.

That's like where the mall was when I was growing up. So if you got a chance to go to Memphis, Memphis was a big deal. So I always felt kind of a bond with Memphis. And then Jilly and I started going to visit Memphis and she loves it. Then we started just rooting for the Memphis Grizzlies. Remember one day I was on the air with Joel Blank. Joel would be a regular guest when I was doing the afternoon show on 610. And I would always talk about how much I liked the Memphis Grizzlies. He'd be like, whatever. And I just loved them.

I loved the way they played. I knew they were never going to win a championship, but I loved the defense. I loved that they were winning like 90 to 87 type games. I love Zach Randolph. I love the defense of Tony Allen. I like Mike Conley distributing the ball. And I like Big Spainley distributing the ball. And I like Big Spain, Mark Gasol, who was a defensive player of the year but could also hit that elbow jumper like it was nothing.

My God, I love that team. And if they would have had a legit wing score, like a legit two, like they had a revolving door of guys like that that were just never really that guy, a wing scorer. And if they would have ever really had a legitimate wing score who knows what they could have done because defensively they were disgusting but I tell you that to tell you this I'm a big Memphis Grizzlies guy I'm a big Z-Bo and Tony Allen guy first team all defense baby and I just love them so they have a podcast it's

called Out the Mud is the name of the podcast. Now, a lot of it is just two dudes riffing about their lives, two dudes talking about basketball, how they came up in basketball, playing in Memphis, the other places they played, how they grew up in bad situations. I mean, every other thing is an RIP to some friend of theirs. Like they'll just be in the middle of talking. It'll be like, well, you know, and then there was Big Jim an RIP to some friend of theirs. Like they'll just be in the middle of talking. It'd be like, well, you know, and then there was big Jim and RIP to big Jim, you know,

to my homie. Like there's a lot of homies that get shouted out that ain't with us no more. But if you really listen to this thing, it is a great freaking podcast and it's inspirational. And I love these guys so damn much. It's really maybe the most random sports thing that I really like when I cut, when it comes

to the Memphis Grizzlies and the grit and grind era Grizzlies Jilly and I would go to games to see him we went to see him when they were in Philly we went to see him in uh let's see we went to see him in Memphis multiple times we went to see him when they played in Houston a lot so I love those guys and out of all the things I like that you would think oh yeah that makes sense Josh likes that it probably wouldn't be Memphis Grizzlies basketball and a podcast dedicated to this great fun grit and grind run but I also love stuff like that when you've got a city that doesn't have a ton going for it doesn't have a ton of sports like Memphis you could argue of all the cities with a professional sports team, at least one, Memphis is arguably the biggest, like, how the fuck did they get a team type of city, right?

Like, even Columbus, Ohio, that's got a major university, you get Columbus, you get the Blue Jackets, right? Those two cities might be the most random cities that aren't really near giant cities. And even Columbus, I think is like a top 35 or 40 market in the country. Memphis is a city that's been shrinking forever. The population continues to shrink. It's barely in the top 50 among radio markets. It's not a big place. And they left Vancouver to go there. But when you think about that in sports, like I'm trying to think of cities like that aren't near a big city like New Orleans. But New Orleans has two.

Size-wise, New Orleans, and population-wise, New Orleans is kind of similar to Memphis. New Orleans has two professional sports teams. But when you drive into Memphis versus when you drive into New Orleans, one feels like a major city still. Like when you see the dome and you see the big buildings, you look at New Orleans and you're like, this feels still like a major city still. Like when you see the dome and you see the big buildings, you look at New Orleans and you're like, this feels still like a big city. When you drive into Memphis, there ain't a ton going on. It's a small mid-southern city that had its heyday 50, 60, 70, 80 years ago. And it hasn't seen a heyday like it since and you look at it you see back you know you watch like the firm and you know you'd say that's that kind of blue bluesy and like it's a city that's

full of crime too so a lot of people kind of ignore it it's just one of those cities yet it has a professional sports team and you're like how is this possible they have a minor league baseball team that used to draw well now it doesn't they have a soccer team in like the next level down from MLS that just folded because they couldn't get a stadium like this is like when you think about the absurdity of a team in a professional sports league doing anything close to what the Grizzlies did again they didn't win a title but to have a six seven eight year run of being a consistent playoff team that was fun to watch, you don't get that in a ton of small towns. Even like a Sacramento. Sacramento has one professional sports team, but even a Sacramento doesn't have the same negative reputation as a Memphis. It's Memphis. Sacramento is still a relatively large city. I think it's the capital of California. I guess I should know that.

But like it still feels like a bigger city than Memphis. You know, Kansas City is not a huge city, but Kansas City's got two professional sports teams and one day may get basketball or hockey. You know, Memphis is just one of those places. And it's a special bond that people have with the team. And I love it it I fell in love with that like I think that's cool like it is a legit us against the world thing it's not like when you know the Kansas City Chiefs led by Patrick Mahomes will tell you that nobody believed in us well that's bullshit everybody believes in you because you're Patrick Mahomes your coach is Andy

Reed and you guys win a shitload of games. It's not like, well, you know, nobody believed in the Warriors this year because they thought that maybe you wouldn't win the title. Like, no, this is Memphis. Literally no one on the planet outside of people in Memphis believe you have a chance to win anything. And that's what makes it so fun and so special. Like Philly loves to paint itself in that corner like, we're the underdogs, no one likes us, we don't care. We're the little guy. No, you're like in a top 10 city in the country, have all four sports, you've won titles before, your clubs have a ton of money to spend, you're not the underdog. New York is not the underdog. Philly's not the underdog. Boston's

not the underdog. Chicago's not the underdog. Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, LA, Miami, you're not underdogs. The real underdogs are places like Memphis, who it's shocking that they still have a team 20 years or so after they moved to Memphis. But the run they went on was spectacular for that city. So that podcast, I know that most of you won't listen. Maybe not one of you listening to this will even give it a shot, but it's called Out the Mud is the name of the podcast. Out the Mud. And I think it's great. Look, if I think something's awesome, I'll tell you to listen to it. There's not a lot of stuff I listen to that's unique to what you guys listen to. I'm sure we all listen to Joe Rogan when there's an interview we like,

you know, we might listen to it, different sports shows for the teams that we follow, all that shit, right? But I think this is a cool one and I would urge you guys to give it a listen. You may not like it, it may not be for you, but I just think people that have stories like that, that came from nothing and made something of themselves, I admire that because I was kind of the opposite. My dad was one of those people. We've talked about this many times. My dad had every excuse to be a loser. My dad's mom was married four times. She was into drugs and alcohol. My dad's dad was not a bad dad, just kind of ignored him when he was a kid because he was off in his own little world. My dad basically was raised by his grandparents and he moved around because his mom was marrying different dudes. My dad's mom was married four times. His sister from his dad and his actual mom may have only been his half sister.

We don't know. Like's a there's there's odd stories in the ns clan about these things so i tell you all that to tell you that every excuse he came from a shitty little small town where the biggest news stories in town are people huffing paint behind the walmart everything could have been bad for my dad he could have been the methed out person that works at the columbia illinois walmart with no teeth that could have been bad for my dad. He could have been the methed out person that works at the Columbia, Illinois Walmart with no teeth. That could have been my dad. My dad could still be in Poplar Bluff, Missouri selling VCRs at the Walmart. Like that could be my dad. But my dad, who's one of the, like, we like to make fun of dad all the time on here. Cause it's easy to make fun of dad. Cause dad, you know, he's dad, he's a doofus and he's kind of self-absorbed and he thinks he's bigger than he is in some cases. And it's fun, but we do it not mean spirited, but we do it fun because my dad

went out and he made something of himself and he didn't have to make anything of himself because every fucking excuse in the book could have been, you're a loser. This is my lot in life. I'm going to get into drugs, alcohol. My dad drinks a sip of Bud Light and he's hammered. My dad won't even consider taking CBD gummies because he thinks he's going to get high even though it would help with his anxiety. He's a square. But he had every excuse to be a failure. And he's not. He's had a hell of a run. He's 58 now. And he's had a hell of a fucking run in his life. One that you're not going to see very often from people who came from that upbringing so that's why when I listen to this podcast and

you've got guys like Tony Allen who came from 95th street south side of Chicago I mean you should hear these stories man like like you're out there with your partners and these dudes are just getting plugged on the street he has every excuse to be a loser and instead makes it to college, makes it to the pros, and becomes one of the elite on-ball defenders in the history of the game. Zeebo comes from a shitty town in Indiana, has every excuse to be a loser, and early in his career did some shit that people thought he was a loser. Played with Portland, played with the Jailblazers, but emerged and became something better than that and bigger than that. And those are the kinds of stories like me. I didn't come from like a horrible situation. You know what I'm saying? I'm not Navin Johnson. I wasn't born a poor black child. Like that wasn't me. I always had it pretty good. Although when I was born again, I was born in Poplar Bluff,

Missouri. My dad bounced around from crappy job to crappy job in radio. And we moved to a lot of places. But I would have never viewed us as poor. Now, when I lived with my grandma and my mom, I wouldn't have thought of us as poor either. But we were actually pretty fucking poor. So, like, that was different. But I didn't know that. Like, we didn't have cable.

And I'm like, why don't we have cable? Well, we can't afford cable. So we watched a shitload of Maury and The Wheel. You know, that was just our life, you know. But, like, I didn't come from that, so that's something I lack. You know, something my dad possesses that I wish I possessed, and I don't have it. Some people do, some people don't. My dad always finds a way to make something happen.

If they tell him he can't do it, he does it. If he needs to go out and sell something to make a living he'll find a way to sell something back when my dad wasn't doing radio at one point when he was in between jobs he found a job playing music at a boot store at a country western store but he always found a way if he was in between jobs and he couldn't find the job he wanted he would take a job in cookville tennessee radio. But that was my dad. He always finds a way. I never worry about him because he always finds a way. He's a fucking hustler that just his nose to the fucking grindstone and he fucking goes. And I admire that. Me, sometimes I find my ass sitting here like, why won't somebody hire me?

And my dad will call. He's like, have you found a job yet? And I'm like, no. He's like, well, then go find a fucking job. Go do something. Like, I lack that. Like, I wish I had a little bit more of that edge. I wish I did. When I was a kid, I had more of it. But now I don't have that same fucking edge that I used to. And my dad's got it big time. And I wish I would have learned more from him on that because I admire the shit out of that. And when I listen to these kind of podcasts of people who came from nothing, started from the bottom, now we hear. When I hear shit like that, I'm like, fuck, that's great. Then what's my story? Oh, guy's born into a radio career because his dad's in radio and he gets into it and gets all these jobs, gets fired from all these jobs. Like, what's my fucking story, you know? I need my rise from the ashes, big, glorious, glamorous moment where people can

look back and say, this guy was up against it, but he came fucking through. Maybe that day will come. Maybe that moment will come. I don't know. But I just think this podcast is great. I've spent 15 minutes talking about a podcast that I'm going to guess none of you are going to listen to, and that's fine. But if you want a recommendation other than recommending this show to your friends which you should be doing you schmucks make sure you do that and then you check out that pod it's called out the mud again many of you won't like it for whatever reason but uh make sure you at least if look if that interests you if that's something that you would find intriguing check it out and I'll leave it at that all right I gotta play a couple commercials for you then we gotta talk about Joey Gladstone having cancer all right if you're ready to win some real cash

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I only learned this today because I see a news story from some local news outlet on Instagram, which I find to be the more disgusting things when people have to use clickbait about someone's health. There's certain things that I refuse to do. If I'm on the radio, I'm not going to tease someone's death, which I hear all the fucking time and you wouldn't believe it. You'll be listening to the radio and someone will go, well, a big time personality has died. We'll tell you who after Winger. And I'm like, no, you're going to tell me now. Like you cannot tease someone's death.

That's not how this works. But in the minds of this clickbait universe where clicks are important and keeping people around is important, we do tacky things like tease deaths on the radio and then put headlines up that force you to click on the story. And even worse, when you have to go through the process of clicking the link in bio on Instagram. So I see a story and it's bad health update for full house star. And I'm like, shit, I read the story. It doesn't give you all the details. The caption just says, for more, click link in bio. Like you cocksuckers, what kind of world have we gotten to? How disgusting and how despicable is our universe that we sit here and force you to make three clicks to find out that someone might be dying?

It's like, hey guys, a bad thing happened to this child and you're like well shit what is it I gotta click on it to find out that the kid fell out of a third story window and died like what are we doing but that's kind of the way of the world now look I was in that gross business for a while too working at iHeart when we were at 790 and you had to do clickbaity type shit because you had to get your digital numbers up which is pathetic but at least ours were just titties mostly like hey we would go to some hot chicks instagram and be like hey check out amanda's titties now and then you'd go click on titties and we made it a bit and people would go click on shit just to help us out and very rarely did we like first of all i would never put hey guess who died type of shit but uh you would get that or you would get, we would do that a lot with sports stories.

Like you won't believe what Blank said and I hated doing it. And I told the people on the air that I hated doing it. I just asked them to go click on the story so we could get our numbers so the bosses wouldn't be pissed off. Spoiler alert, they were pissed off anyway, but that was the world of being at 790. But I hate doing that kind of shit. I hate the misleading headlines. I hate that when you click on a story and people are too lazy to read the

story, then you read the story and it's nothing like the headline. Today I saw a headline that said, Donald Trump recommending reparations for white people. And I'm like, well, that's intriguing. I saw this on an urban radio station's Instagram, which is obviously a place that you go for your hardcore news, like real 92.3 Los Angeles. But I click on the story and actually read it. Nowhere in the story does it say anything about Trump actually saying reparations for anybody. It's just an education thing about how people have been discriminated against in the education field, which is factual. We've seen the stories about how because of affirmative action or whatever you want to call it, you'll see like Asians, for instance, are kept out of some of these major universities or whatever. You'll see it.

But the story was Trump wants reparations for white people. And of course, the dipshits on all these websites are too lazy to read it. So they all just start responding angrily. By the way, it doesn't just happen on dumb urban radio stations. It has a Fox News, Facebook accounts. It happens on news talk accounts. It happens everywhere because people are dipshits and they're lazy and they don't want to know the facts. They just want to have their views kind of spit back at them. They want that affirmation, that confirmation. So, of course, they go out and they just react to something based on a headline that was written by some $10 an hour schmuck or some disc jockey

that has to get these clicks to keep his $30,000 a year gig. News is dead. It all sucks. That said, so Dave Coulier has non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now you might say, Josh, that's Uncle Joey. Well, I saw something the other day that really blew my mind

and I think it was from Barstool. Whoever the guy is, like the big college football guy from Barstool, I don't know his name. But he said that everybody calls Dave Coulier's character Uncle Joey, but he has never been called Uncle Joey on the show because he is not an uncle. He is Danny's friend, which we all knew. Jesse is the actual brother-in-law. That is Uncle Jesse. And these people on the show were blown away by this they're like there's no way he had to have been referred to as Uncle Joey at some point on the show someone went through the whole process of searching

at no point was Joey Gladstone referred to as Uncle Joey he was always just Joey just Uncle Jesse and Joey that friends is part of the Mandela effect. Josh, what is the Mandela effect? Only one of my favorite things. The Mandela effect is the belief that you think you know something about something, and it's widely held that that something is true, and it turns out it wasn't true. Where does it originate? It originates from the idea

that people thought Nelson Mandela died in the 80s, although he did not die in the 80s, but the whole world seems to have thought that. Like that was the belief. Like, oh, Nelson Mandela, he died when he was a prisoner back in, no, not the case. So it's called the Mandela effect.

I've talked about this before. It's truly one of the most fascinating things. I don't know why I enjoy it so much, why I like it so much, but it is called the Mandela effect. So let me find you some examples of the Mandela effect, okay? I've got a whole list of them here. Here's one that people go with a lot. The idea that Sinbad played a genie in a movie in the 1990s. Many, many people distinctly remember seeing Sinbad in a movie called Shazam. Many argue they're confusing this memory with the movie Kazam starring Shaquille O'Neal as a genie, but no one really knows. There are people who are convinced that there was a Sinbad genie movie and they remember it from their childhood.

That, friends, is the Mandela effect. Other examples of the Mandela effect. People swear there was a Jiffy peanut butter back in the day, but there never was. There's Jiff. Moms like you choose Jiff. But there is no Jiffy peanut butter.

But I guarantee you've called it. We're gonna go get some Jiffy? That's one I guarantee you've called it. We got to go. We're going to go get some Jiffy. That's one that I've probably been part of Mandela effect. Uh, Looney tunes, T U N E S not tunes. T O O N S. Many people believe that the Looney tunes was spelled T O O N S when in reality it's T U N E S. While that makes sense because the show is actually called Merry Melodies

and melody is a tune, so that would make sense. The Berenstain Bears didn't exist. Why? Because they were actually called the Berenstain Bears. How about that? I thought it was,

that blows my fucking mind actually. The lovable cartoon bear family actually spelled their name with an A. The Berenstain bear, that fucking, I've never seen that one. That, everybody, it's the Berenstain bears. It is the Berenstain bears. There is, I have never seen the Berenstain bears. I have never seen the Baron Stain Bears. I have never seen that. Curious George's tail was never there.

I could have sworn that little motherfucker had a tail, but apparently Curious George has never had a tail. Let's see other examples of this. Oscar Mayer, one of the most confounding of all. There's an A in Oscar Mayer, so it's like mayor. And I agree with this. I thought it was M-E-Y-E-R as well, but it's not. It's Oscar Mayer, M-A-Y-E-R. This is another one that still fucks with me. Skechers. Many people believe Skechers has a T in it, but it doesn't. It's S-K-E-C-H-E-R-S.

Fruit Loops. Apparently, it's F-R-O-O-T, not F-R-U-I-T. I knew that one. Let's see. Monopoly Man and his monocle. Or more like the fact that he doesn't that one. Let's see. Monopoly man and his monocle or more like the fact that he doesn't have one. So apparently the Monopoly man has never had a monocle. Quit blowing my mind, Mandela effect. But it's true. He's never had a monocle. Some people think he might be being confused with Mr. Peanut, but I would never

confuse Mr. Fucking Peanut with the Monopoly guy. I know Mr. Peanut has a monocle, and I swear that the Monopoly guy had a monocle, but apparently he doesn't. The hyphen in Kit Kat, there is no hyphen in between Kit Kat. I thought there was, but I guess I'm wrong. Let's see. The Double Stuff Oreos. If you're trying to tell us there isn't a second F in stuff, our lives have been officially been a lot. Actually, honestly, I thought it was double stuffed,

like S-T-U-F-T. But no, it's double stuffed with one F. The Flintstones had two Ts. We've been pronouncing it without the first one, so this is really awkward now. Well, I think everybody knew it was the Flintstones. I don't know who thought it was the Flintstones, because it's Flint, so that's dumb.

I would have never thought that. Luke, I am your father. The exchange is iconic as the Star Wars movie themselves. However, it's another line that was never said. No, I am your father is the correct line. So that's a great example because everyone goes, Luke, I am your father. I know a human that doesn't. It goes back to Tommy Boy when he's talking into the fan. The actual line is, no, I am your father. That's a good Mandela effect one right there. Let's see here. We're going to need a bigger father. That's a good Mandela effect one right there. Let's see here.

We're going to need a bigger boat. It's actually you're going to need a bigger boat. That's another example. I've never said you're going to need a bigger boat. I've always said we. Ed McMahon and Publishers Clearinghouse. Everybody thought that Ed McMahon was part of Publishers Clearinghouse, but really, McMahon was never a spokesperson for the company. Instead, he worked for American Family Publishers.

My mind continues to be blown. There are new ones of this that I've never seen before. This being a great example, I would have never imagined. Dude, growing up, you always said Ed McMahon and the Publishers Clearinghouse. No, it's American Family Publishers. Life is like a box of chocolates is not what Forrest Gump said. If you listen closely, he said life was like a box of chocolates. Okay, now we're reaching, but yes, that is the Mandela effect. Other examples. Now, this is, to me,

this is like the ultimate example of the Mandela effect, right? So the song, We Are the Champions, everybody at some point in the song yells, of the world, right? In reality, there was never a point in the song where Freddie Mercury yells, we are the champions of the world. Like the song even ends, we are the champions, dun dun. He sings those lines during the chorus but not at the very end of the song so a lot of people confuse that like i think about it with mighty ducks and shit

that's one that i that i think of a lot the mandela effect i tell tell you. I enjoy it. These are the kind of things that blow my mind, and I enjoy them. And this comes with the news that Dave Coulier's got the cancer. But I saw this just the other day before this Dave Coulier story came out, that there is no Uncle Jesse or Uncle Joey. There's just Joey. Smokey Bear. Yep, that's his name, contrary to popular belief that his name isn't smoky the bear so it's it will so it's smoky bear not smoky the bear uh let's see i saw him standing there by the

record machine so this is going to be from i love rock and roll i saw him standing there by the record machine and i love rock and roll but what she really says is, I saw him dancing there by the record machine. I don't know that that's one that I knew. I think I would have known that one. If you build it, they will come from Field of Dreams, but in reality, the actual line uttered by the mysterious voice at the beginning of the movie was, if you build it, he will come. Boy, the Mandela effect is fascinating. I don't know if any of you guys find this as absurdly entertaining as I do. You may. You may not. But damn, do I enjoy that conversation about the Mandela effect.

It's just something that intrigues me to no end. And the first time I had heard of that was the We Are the Champions thing. That was kind of like the OG Mandela effect thing for me. Anyway, make sure you send me some messages. I love you guys.