The Josh Innes Show - Michael Penis v. Heckler

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

A heckler at the Cowboys/Falcons game referred to Michael Penix Jr as Michael Penis. Now, this whole thing could have gone sideways. But, both parties actually handled it well. This rarely happens. Is Michael Penis a harder jab than Josh Anus? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

so a lot of the time you'll hear people at sporting events and they'll talk shit to athletes and they'll never actually have to encounter the athlete and part of it is that that's just the way things work at sporting events right like that's if you're an athlete you sign up for that like you don't want it to get racial or offensive or anything like that but you sign up for the the fact that people are going to be assholes at sporting events people are drinking people are probably betting on these games people are going to say and do dumb shit at sporting events And for the most part, you don't see altercations between fans and athletes. It happens, obviously.

We've seen some major examples like, you know, the malice in the palace. And we'll see, or like Marcus Smart when he was in college or like every week something involving Russ Westbrook. Like, you see that kind of shit. But it never really escalates to big, like to great heights. Usually it doesn't. But I think players sign up for that. And most of them get it that, hey, I'm a million dollar athlete, a multi-million dollar athlete. and people are going to talk shit at sporting events

and that just kind of comes to the territory. Rarely, though, do we get to see video and hear a dude interacting with an athlete? Like, usually if a dude's talking shit to an athlete, the athlete just walks by. Now, we've seen great examples of it, though, like the legendary Bill O'Brien, you suck two motherfucker moment,

which was like really the apex. Like, that was the tippy top of the Bill O'Brien era. There were two great moments that I think back when I think of the Bill O'Brien era, my two favorite moments that I think perfectly encapsulated the Bill O'Brien era. One was the you suck two motherfucker moment when he's walking into the tunnel and someone yells that he sucks and he stops and says, you suck too, motherfucker, fuck you. And that's at his own home stadium in NRG, which may have been reliant at the time.

I don't remember. But he's walking into the tunnel and you've got dude going, hey, you suck Bill O'Brien. And my man snaps and says, you suck to motherfucker. fuck you. Great moment. Then the other great Bill O'Brien moment was when it's during the draft and I think it was the Rona year draft. I think it was the Rona year. And he's on the phone like getting the call about who they're going to draft. They're going back and forth. And then he just loses his shit. The camera stays on him. Like he's at his home office. He's sitting at home. His kid sitting next to him. And he just loses his shit about who they draft. And like you

could read his lips and he's basically saying like that's on you like something went wrong and he's pointing to the phone and yelling then he gets up and it's like f bombing and walks away then they asked him about it afterward and they're like so bill like what the fuck happened like why did you lose your mind oh we were just messing on the zoom me and east your be but that was we were just messing with the zoom so those were my two favorite bill o'brien moments and also blowing like a 24 point lead on on the road in a playoff game in kansas city that was also a great bill o'brien moment Bill O'Brien had some legendary moments, and now Bill O'Brien is the head football coach at Boston College. But anyway, I bring all this up to tell you this.

We had another great interaction between fan and player this weekend, and I think both parties handled it very well. We'll get to that after these words. So I guess it was a week or two ago that one of the news outlets, the graphic on the screen, did something that I thought would happen. far more frequently than it does. But instead of putting the name Michael Pennix Jr. on the screen, instead it said Michael Penis. So it said Michael Penis Jr. on the screen. So that's gotten a great laugh from people, blah, blah, blah.

So fast forward to this past weekend in Dallas. So the Falcons are playing in Dallas for a preseason game. And a gentleman sitting in those like, field-level club seats, like right when the players are walking into the tunnel, there are field-level club seats, which I don't think would be very good seats because you can't see anything, but people get caught up and wanting to be in a club and have all the free shit. You can't see a fucking thing from those field-level suites, but whatever, that's a different story for a different day, different topic for a different day.

But you've got Michael Pennix, who's not in uniform, walking by, and this is the altercation of the little – is that even an altercation? It's an interaction that you get. Hey, Michael Penis! Let's go, bro. Have a good season, bro. Yeah, have a good... Huh?

What you throwing me? I said Michael Penix. Damn it. So, if you couldn't make that out, what happens is homeboy, bro, sitting in those suites, says, Michael penis! Doesn't expect Michael Penis to stop. Michael Penis does stop and looks at him and goes, what did you call me? And he says, Michael Penis.

And then Pinnix, who could have, like, just gone ape shit on this guy, goes, it's Pinnix. And then walks away. I think both parties handle this well. Now, you could make an argument that yelling Michael Pino's at a guy is probably not the right way to handle something. Probably not. But assuming that it's a football stadium and people are drunk and people yell dumb shit and people try to go viral, yelling Michael Penis is not exactly, you know, the worst thing anyone can do. And, like, it's low-hanging fruit shit.

Like, people call me Josh Penis. Some asshole called the station the other day and called me Josh Anus. Like, I'm sure Michael Pennix, his entire life, has heard people calling him Michael Penis. So he's probably used to it. But the guy says Michael Penis. So then Pennick stops and looks at him, and he's like, what did you call me? and there was a moment where he could have been like, oh, I'm sorry, man, I was just buster your chops.

I said Michael Penn, I said Pennix, I swear. But the guy actually owned it. He goes, Michael Penis? And Pennix could have gone over and lectured him, could have gone over and motherfucked him, could have done a lot of stuff. But instead, he just was calm, cool, collected, and goes, it's Pennix.

And then walked away. I thought that was a solid interaction for both parties. Hey, Michael Tennis. Let's go, bro. Have a good season, bro. Yeah, have a good... Huh? What you doing?

I said Michael Penix. Pinnix. That's nice. Look, like, it could have been ugly. It could have gotten a lot worse. It could have gotten to the point that, like, they're throwing punches. It could have... He could have gotten himself in trouble.

Like, you know what? Maybe Michael Pinnix is going to be a good NFL quarterback. Didn't lose his temper. Didn't swing on old buddy. And then I think old buddy... he deserves credit because usually when people call you out like it's very easy to like come out and yell dumb shit at someone and then they never hear you so you can then you know then like whatever but when they hear you and then they confront you about it you have a choice there you could be a coward in the situation and lie and say oh so sorry bro I love you or you could have just said what this guy did which is Michael penis Yeah, have a good Huh?

What you throw on it? I said Michael Penix. Penix. It's Pennix. Let's see. I like that. That's a good back and forth between dipshit fan and athlete.

Now I want to root for Michael Pennix. And you might say, well, Josh, you're a Saints fan. How would you root for Michael Pennix? Because my team's going to suck. The Saints have still not determined which shitty quarterback is going to be their starting quarterback. I know you've got your own problems. I know many of you root for teams that have better situations than mine does.

But we're debating between Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shuck. Those are our options. For the record, I think I'd probably roll with Spencer Radler. Only because the guy's been around the block a little bit and played a lot last year. And look, if you bring him in and he sucks, bring in Tyler Shuck, it doesn't matter. They both suck. They're both going nowhere. I just think that the better option would be the guy.

that's already played. The better, better option would have been to have like a James Winston, a veteran to go out there and sling a little bit. Obviously, the Saints disagreed with that viewpoint. And that's where they're rolling with a, like a 400-year-old rookie, a middle-aged rookie, and Spencer Rattler, who in his defense, was running for his life most of last year because the Saints' offensive line was terrible. You know, it seems like it was 400 years ago that the Saints started the season 2-0 and couldn't be stopped offensively. And then they played the fucking Eagles at a game that I attended, and the offensive line got hurt, and then they sucked the entire rest of the season.

And I know you've got your own problems. I'm fully aware you have your own problems. But looking back on that, like, have you ever seen a situation where a team was so good, like dominant for like two weeks? Got the whole world talking about them. Then they play a really close game against the Eagles and then fall off a cliff. Because of an injury to it. They had a lot of injuries, but a couple of dudes got hurt, and boom.

Anyway, that's a different topic for a different day. Hey, Michael Tienich. Let's go, bro. Have a good season, bro. Yeah, have a good season, huh? What you're doing? I said, Michael Penix. See, I like that. That's just good quality entertainment.

That's just a good back and forth there, you know. And he's got to expect that people are going to do that. If they weren't already doing it, then the TV news messes it up and calls him Michael penis. Like, what choice do you have if you're a bro attending a football game that Michael Pennix is playing it? It's like, again, when people call me Josh Anus or Josh penis, it's not particularly clever, but people do it.

I think Michael Pennix, let me see. I wonder what Michael Pennock's yardage for this year is like his over under passing yardage total. I think I'm going to take it. I'm very much team Michael Pennix at this point. It's like, this is going to sound strange, but that interaction shows me that we have a mature individual that's going to go out there and he's going to sling a ding-dong. I think that's what we're in for. Let's take a quick Michael Pinnock's stat look here.

Let's go with, okay, NFL, let's look at futures in the NFL, and let's look at player, let's see, passing props, regular season, passing props, passing yardage for Michael Pinnock, over 3,400. yards. Check. Check. Check. We're taking Michael Pinnock's over 3,400 yards. What's his passing touchdown total? Over 18 and a half taking it. It's Michael Pinnock's season, baby, and we're ready to go. What is it for him to get to 4,000 yards? For Michael Pinnock's to throw for 4,000 yards. By comparison, Joe Burrow is the favorite to throw for 4,000 yards. He's minus 270. There are only three players in the NFL who are, who are, like, minus money to throw for 4,000 yards. It's Joe Burrow, Pat Mahomes, Dak, Prescott. Once you get to Jared Goff, who's plus 105, and I think that's a layup.

If he stays healthy, Jared Goff, because I don't think their defense is going to be particularly good, they're going to have to throw. I think Jared Goff plus 105 and over 4,000 passing yards is the easiest money on the planet if he stays healthy. All the way down at the bottom. not at the bottom in the middle of the pack Michael Pennix Jr.

Plus 200. So 100 bucks wins 200, pays out 300. I think I'd take Michael Pennix to throw for 4,000 yards. Sign me up. I like his attitude. Call me crazy,

but you've got to look for any kind of edge you can find, right? And to me, I see that dude and the maturity of that dude and the way he handled that situation. Like, I see headlines about this, angrily confronts fans.

Dude wasn't angry. You're just saying that. because he's black at this point. He didn't angrily confront anybody. He literally goes like, hey, what did you call me? Penis, and he goes, it's pinnics, and then walked away. But if you start looking at his numbers late last season, dude threw for 202, 223, and 312, what was his total for last year?

Let's see, threw for 775 yards last year, but mind you, he barely played. But as he started playing more, if you take the average of those last three games, You're looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of like 240 yards. Let's just say 240. So what would be 240 times 17? Does that get you to what you need to get to get to 4,000? 240 times 17 is 4,080. I think I'm taking Michael Pennix 4,000 yards.

Bookmark that. That's my boy. Hey, Michael Teenage! Let's go, bro. Have a good season, bro. That's my boy. That's my boy. We're taking him. 4,000 yards plus 200. Take it to the bank.