The Josh Innes Show - Monday Night Football Recap and Great Comedy Films

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

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Glad you guys are with us. Hello. Just got finished watching the Monday Night Football doubleheader. Jilly suffered some real heartbreaking defeats. I'm on a real stretch here. I may quit. Well, they all say that. Look, I almost had the most

epic night ever. I was, again, so we talked about last week, my missing the touchdowns by the Saquon. I forget who else. This week it happened again. I missed by a Kittle Tud. I missed by a Devontae Adams Tud. And tonight, I missed, miraculously, Baker

gets his yards. It's too much to even get into. And all I needed was either a Kate Otten touchdown or a Chris, what's his name? Godwin Tud. He died, so I guess that's my fault. Yeah, you killed him. Second to last play of the game or third to last play. But let me tell you something.

And we're thrown to the running backs. My favorite parlay or my favorite pick of all time. I picked no running backs to catch tonight. Rather, I picked number 43, Justice justice hill who i always pick to catch to run for 12 yards and i missed by that's the one leg i missed in another one yeah i had a couple of nice hits today at a first quarter bet that hit with with receiving yards on the first quarter. But I missed the 500 combined passing yards in the Chargers-Cardinals game by six fucking yards. And then the field goal one that I've been telling you guys to do on DraftKings, which is you can take the total field goal yards from games.

Well, I parlayed the two games today. Chargers game hit easily because the Chargers, all they could do. I don't know that a human has ever thrown for 350 yards and his team has not scored a touchdown, but that's what happened to the Chargers today they could do. I don't know that a human has ever thrown for 350 yards and his team has not scored a touchdown, but that's what happened to the chargers today. And they lost. And lost. It's impressive.

It's amazing. But then. It's almost like Saints level of impressive. No, the Saints would lose by 50. But so I got that one easily. I needed about 15 more field goal yards in the Tampa game. Mind you, Tampa missed a field goal earlier that really set off a chain reaction

that just killed the game. It was 20 to 10, third quarter, they're kicking a field goal. If they make the field goal, I get my field goal yards in the Baltimore game. Thus, I would have hit a parlay that would have won like $800, which would have been awesome.

But they missed that kick. Almost instantly, Baltimore goes down and scores on a long touchdown that makes it 27 to 10. And at that point, the game's over. I don't care that they made it a 10-point game. But then what's even worse is that Tampa has three timeouts late in the game. They get a stop. They're down 10. They force a punt. All I need to have happen is Tampa to get close enough to attempt a field goal because they're still going to need two possessions. But then Baker runs the clock out running the ball like a dickhead,

and I don't get it, so fuck him. But another interesting thing, and this happened twice in two games this weekend, and this is something that I find interesting. Apparently, in a situation where you're going to need multiple two-point conversions late in the game, analytics tell you to go for the two as soon as possible so you know exactly what you need down the stretch. First of all, let me tell you the two games that stand out. Jacksonville, in their game against New England yesterday, Jacksonville at the time was down by I believe they were down by 15 they scored to cut I forgot what exactly the situation was all I know is they were in a situation where they did not have to

kick or to go for two they were down uh what was it was it was a situation where it was New England that was down I'm trying to remember the exact details of this but they i think they might have needed i think they may need 16 they needed two two-point conversions essentially um so there's about seven and a half minutes to go in the game they score and they cut it to not i think they cut it to 10 or something like that or i forgot exactly what happened they cut it to eight they cut it to nine or something like that. Or I forgot exactly what happened. They cut it to eight. They cut it to nine. That's what happened. So they score with seven and a half minutes to go.

They're down. I think actually what they did is they, you know what, goddammit, I'm gonna just look up exactly what it was. The fact that I'm forgetting this pisses me off because it enraged me yesterday so much to the point that I'm tweeting about it and I have to fight with these dipshits

that love to talk about analytics. Sometimes the analytics are right. Sometimes the analytics are right. Sometimes the analytics are worthless. And in this instance, the analytics were worthless because with seven and a half minutes to go, you don't go for two when if you miss it, that's going to have you down by three fucking scores. I think that's how it played out.

Hold on. Let me go to that drive. It's harder, too, because we weren't watching it. We were just listening to it on the radio driving back. So it's hard to visualize. So here's what happened. So in that game, the Jaguars. Okay, so it's 25 to 10.

So it's a 15-point game. All right. Patriots get the ball. They go down and score. They cut it to 25 to 16 if you don't get the two-point conversion in that situation you're dead with seven and a half minutes to go you have to get the ball back twice and you haven't been able to stop Jacksonville from running the ball so if you kick the extra point you're down eight people view it as scores I view it as possessions because some people will say well you're gonna have to get the two-point conversion anyway

why not try it earlier so you know how you have to do things how about you get the fucking extra point earlier so when you go down and maybe make a stop you only need to get a touchdown on a two-point conversion to tie the fucking game that's the part that bothers me and i think it's better for morale for the team too like hey we're, we're still in this, guys. After that, you're like, fuck it. Correct. If you miss the two-point conversion with seven and a half minutes to go, you're down nine. You have to get the ball back twice.

You need two fucking possessions in seven and a half minutes against a team that you haven't been able to stop running the ball. And by the way, there was a stretch in that game where the Jaguars ran the ball like 16 times in a row, and late in the game, they milked the entire clock. clock seven and a half minutes you never got the ball back but they maybe do things differently if they're only up eight if they know they're only up eight they know it's one possession so they may make a mistake they may throw instead of knowing that they can sit on the ball as long as they want that's why that's stupid and that happened in this game as well in this game

the uh tampa has a chance to cut it to 16 if they kick an extra point again i know you're going to need those two point conversions but with like four minutes to go in the game i think it's about where it was three and a half four minutes goes a weird four minutes of that game there are a lot of points scored in four minutes there and there was an onside kick recovery which we never see anymore but in that that situation, if you cut it to, if you kick the extra point, you're down 16. If you miss it, you're down 17. With four minutes to go, you're not going to get the fucking ball back three times. So kick the extra fucking point. This isn't difficult. Fuck the analytics. Sometimes the analytics are right.

Sometimes the analytics that say go for it in this situation are right. Sometimes you say fuck the analytics and say, hey, we're down two scores with four minutes. We can maybe get the ball back twice in four minutes with an onside kick. We're not going to get it back three fucking times. And as it turns out, you fucking, you didn't. Well, you did actually. Here's what's funny. I think they did get the ball back three times the problem is these dipshits were down 10 instead of eight it's it's baffling and then you get these dipshits on twitter uh sort of the analytics say to do that

because you're gonna need a two-pointer anyway so why why not get it as early as possible so you know what you need you're always gonna going to know what you're going to need. Whether you need seven points or ten points, you know what you need. It's fucking preposterous. You know who else seems to mock analytics? Joe Flacco. Oh, dude, Flacco was great on the Manning cast. I enjoyed him thoroughly. Yeah, he was fantastic.

I love that we got a little extended Manning cast today. Yeah, a little bonus Manning cast. Let me see how this thing played out here at the end. You know, you're just holding the mic in my face. I know that. I know. I know. Let me see here. I don't need the Cardinals game. I need the Ravens and Bucs. So when they scored, so the Ravens were down 41 to 18. The Bucs go down. They score, the Bucks go down.

They score in two minutes at two and a half minutes. They cut it to 41, 24 and decide to go for two and they don't get it. So at that point with three 46 to go, you're still down 17 points. You're down at that point. When you score that you're down uh four uh it's 41 24 it's still three possessions then you miraculously get the onside kick then you score a touchdown and this time get the two-point conversion but instead of being down eight or seven or whatever you're down 10 and no matter what the game's over so much in fact that they took lamar out of the game ran the ball three times and punted it back to you because they knew you still needed the ball two fucking times.

It doesn't make sense. You can tell me about analytics all you want. You can tell me about, oh, you got to know the definitive outcome. It doesn't make sense. It is stupid. It is preposterous. If you can be down two possessions versus three with four minutes to go in a game, you take the opportunity to be down two fucking possessions. Three possessions, it's over. You're dumb. Fuck the analytics. Sometimes it's right. I'm not right when there's, and I'll go back to the Jaguars game yesterday for the stupid Patriots, seven and a

half minutes to go. If you go for one, it is a one possession game, not a one score game. You still have to score, but also technically you still have to score twice every time you get the fucking ball because an extra point is still another score. It doesn't make sense. It is stupid. God, when I read these dipshits, like these dingleberries that are on Twitter, oh, you got to get it early because you know exactly what you need.

Yeah, well, it's a lot better to need eight than to need fucking 10. This isn't difficult. Fuck. Nerds. need eight than to need fucking 10 this isn't difficult fuck nerds anyway so um so speaking of this by the way fun fact you know everyone's talking about like lamar is 23 and one now against nfc opponents fucking wild can you name the one nfc he lost to? I am going to say... Okay, this is interesting. I thought you might enjoy this little question. Okay, I like this.

Okay, so Lamar has lost to one NFC team ever. 23-1. 23-1, he's lost to one NFC team. Okay. I don't think the Birds, I don't think the Birds beat him. Did the Eagles beat him? Okay.

So it's not the Eagles. I'm trying to think. It wasn't earlier this year because that was the Chiefs that beat them. And then who was their loss to? They were 0-2, but I don't think one was to an NFC. It wasn't this year.

No. Okay. So, all right, let's see. NFfc it's probably not san francisco but like that would be an obvious one like oh san francisco's good so maybe they're one but no it's it's got to be some slap dick type team like you would think like the saints or the fucking browns or some slap dick no no the browns are in the afc oh that's true i've just met like a bad team uh and so okay hold on don't tell me it's gonna be one that doesn't make hold on I'm trying to

see if I can visual like a Seattle no okay eventually I'll just name all the teams I'll have to get it um but I want to try let's see It's not the birds. They obviously they beat the Cowboys earlier this year, but I don't know if they've lost to him before. I guess not. 2022. 2022. 2022. NFC team. It's going to be somebody like that.

It shouldn't be like I've already named half the fucking NFC. And it's not to be somebody like that. It shouldn't be like, I've already named half the fucking NFC. Um, and it's not the saints. It's not Carolina. Cause I don't think Carolina's won like four games in the last three years. Um, the Falcons. Nope.

Okay. NFC. Oh, wait, wait a second. I'm ignoring Green Bay It is not Green Bay Detroit

It is not Detroit Hold on I mean I've named a lot of them We're gonna go with The Not the Bears Obviously the Vikings It's not the Vikings. Obviously the Vikings is not the Viking.

Okay. The LA Rams. No. Okay. The it's not Seattle. Um, it is Arizona. It is not.

It's not Arizona. Okay. So, um, so it's not Seattle. It's not Arizona. At the time, this team after beating them was five and one, five and one. It's not Arizona. At the time, this team, after beating them, was 5-1.

5-1. It's not the Vikings. Tampa? Nope. Okay. Okay, shit. I've literally named... Okay, NFC. Oh, it's got to be somebody like the fucking...

The Giants. That's the one. Okay. Process of elimination. The Giants. Ridiculously, the Giants were 5's the one. Okay. Process of elimination. The Giants. The Giants were 5-1 in 2022. I don't know that they've won five games since then. And they beat the Ravens

24-20 in the Meadowlands. Well, there you go. What a day it must have been for the Giants faithful. Daniel Jones threw 173. How about the fact that Lamar can sling now? Dude's like consistently throwing for 250 and 300. He's gotten better. through 173. How about the fact that Lamar can sling now? Dude's consistently

throwing for 250 and 300. He's gotten better, and that's scary. You look at the Texans, and you're like, I don't think the Texans are beating... Look, as it stands today, and I know it's easy to say after the Ravens just hung 41 on Tampa, and the Texans just

lost to Green Bay, but look, the Texans are going in and beating the Ravens. And I don't think they're beating the Chiefs. This day game is going to be either really, really good or just embarrassing. Well, but we also got to see what happens when the Texans get Nico back. But to me, that's not their biggest issue. Their offensive line is terrible. They still give up big plays.

Like, I think they're susceptible to some big plays this week. Dude, if Flacco were playing this week, and for whatever reason, I know that they want to just keep trotting out this fucking Anthony Richardson. I think he fucking sucks. The whole world thinks he's great and he's going to be amazing. Flacco gives them a better chance to win. If winning football games today was important to them, they'd play Joe Flacco. They are better with him.

He was great with Cleveland last year. He's just been kind of a hired gun that gets the job done. But you look around the league, man. I really thought, and look, I still need to find this data somewhere, the facts. But you look at a guy like Herbert tonight who throws for 350 yards, doesn't get a touchdown, and loses. I doubt that's ever happened before. I feel like the Elias Sports Bureau

or somebody needs to tell us this. Is this a scenario that we've ever seen before where a gentleman throws for 350 yards, loses the game and his team doesn't score a touchdown? I need to know this because I doubt that that's ever happened ever in the history of sport, but who knows? I remember Justin Herbert's numbers tonight. Was it like 198? Yeah, so I took that, and I got that easily. I mean, basically had it at the end of the first half. You did just like 300. You got nuts.

I know. Well, here's the thing. So Herbert has gotten better the last three weeks, and I thought they should have won that game today. Again, late in the game when you watch the way these teams handle late-game situations. This wasn't quite the same situation as the Texans were in. The Texans should have, could have, would have played for the touchdown late in the game. Playing for the field goal, you were almost guaranteeing yourself a loss. So they should have been more aggressive on first and second down in that Packers,

that last drive, last four plays against the Packers. They should have been more aggressive. Instead, they lost five yards on the first two plays, throw a pointless pass to the outside that got them nowhere close to a first down and was dropped anyway. And then you kick the field goal and you were going to lose that game. If you score the touchdown, you're forcing them to go 75 yards or 80 or 70 yards to beat you as opposed to needing to go 40 yards to beat you. You fucked up. It was bad coaching, bad decision there late in the game and it cost the Texans so uh and late in this game for the Chargers look they threw it on third down and they could have gotten a penalty on that but it was an uncatchable ball and they screwed themselves then they committed a questionable

uh unnecessary roughness penalty that cost 15 yards which also ultimately cost me six yards that I needed for the 500 but I'm not sad or angry um but you know that late game clock management situations when other teams have timeouts it does make things a little bit more difficult I get it but the Texans in their scenario should have been far more aggressive and when I say aggressive I'm not saying get reckless but like they basically just ran it into the line twice and then threw one for no reason on third down and said, good, we're going to make a stop with a minute and a half to go. It doesn't matter. Like a minute and a half, a guy like Jordan Love could throw the ball twice and you're in field goal range. And they were,

they fucked up. The Texans had a chance. When you have a chance to score a touchdown to go ahead, I don't care if there's a minute and a half, a minute 45 and I don't care how many timeouts they have the timeouts they have are negligible can you keep them from getting in the end zone people get too enamored with how many timeouts a team has left here's an idea stop them three fucking times at four times and you win the goddamn game that's not hard stop them four fucking times and you win the game. It doesn't matter when you do it. Stop them on fourth down and keep them out of the end zone. But instead, people are obsessed with, well, we got to make sure they burn all their timeouts. There's a fucking minute and a half to go. You're up by one with a minute and a half to go.

They've got Jordan Love who's got deep threats all over the place and you can't stop deep threats. What the fuck do you think's going to happen? It's stupid. It is a dumb decision that you made there. Look, if you try and you don't score the touchdown, fine. But to essentially concede that you're going to kick the field goal with a minute and a half to go and hope for your kind of shoddy defense, especially in the back half that's beat the hell up

to stop Jordan Love from beating you, is dumb. It is a dumb decision and you fucked up. That's on D'Amico. That's on his coaching staff. As bad as things were in that game for them offensively with CJ doing very little after he completed that pass on third down on the sideline that was awesome and set them up to win the game, they should not have been in a position to lose it or at least not with a in a position to lose it, or at least not with a fucking field goal to beat you, and you let a field goal beat you.

You were stupid in the way you handled that shit. You fucked up. And now you have to play Indianapolis, who, I mean, their season is not necessarily on the line, but I'll tell you this, you lose this shit and you're five and three, and you gotta play the Jets who can beat you. They're not great, but they can beat you. You got some games coming up.

Your tougher part of your schedule hadn't happened yet. Like, yes, you faced the Bills and you beat them. I think the Texans, after the Colts game, have three straight primetime games, which historically the Texans have not been great in primetime. Sure. Now, I think they have the Jets coming up. Yeah, the Jets is on Halloween. They got the Colts, the Jets, and then they got another losable game.

I forgot which one that is. It's primetime. It's probably good. Let's see. I mean, so they have got a rough stretch here. Yeah, they've got the, well, the Jets on Halloween is at New York. Then they play Sunday night football and they host the Lions. That's a big one.

And then, well, they go to the Cowboys for Monday night. They could lose that. They've got the Titans, the Jags, and the Dolphins. Okay, you've got a good stretch there where if you lose two out of three, you can kind of bounce back there. But then you've still got the Chiefs and the Ravens on the schedule. Yes, back-to-back in a matter of four days. Yes.

You're playing December 21st, which would be the Sunday at noon at Arrowhead. Yep. And then you're playing four days later on Christmas Day hosting the Ravens. So needless to say, games like this at home against the Colts are games you kind of have to fucking win because you have got a tough stretch of shit coming up. God, I love that Lions team so fucking much. I love them. So this is a huge game.

You lose this. You're tied with the Colts. You want to compare the Colts schedule? Sure. Okay. Well, the Colts, I think, well, I'm trying to think of who they've already played. Look, just tell me. Well, the Colts have already played the Texans and lost.

They played the Packers and lost. They the Bears they beat the Steelers which turns out the Steelers beating them is quite the fucking accomplishment dude if Rusty does anything close to what he did on Sunday the Steelers can play they lost the Jags they beat the Titans they beat the Dolphins up next they have the Texans then Then they go to the Vikings. That's tough. That just got flexed into Sunday night. There you go. Then they host the Bills.

Not easy. They go to the Jets. Okay, again, not easy. They host the Lions. These two teams got a fucking gauntlet coming up. But then the rest of their schedule, at the Patriots, at the Broncos, host the Titans, at the Giants, host the Jaguars. So if they win this this weekend, they're in a position where they just need to try to hold,

just not take on too much water. That back end for them is very favorable. If they can somehow steal a couple, they should be playing Flacco. And I get that this guy's your future and you invested all this. So I know why you have to play him. But if you're trying to win football games today, you cannot tell me that Anthony Richardson gives you a better chance to beat any good team than Flacco does. Flacco's been a beast since he's been just kind of this, this wander backup that goes from team to team. And when someone, some dingleberries gets hurt hurt he comes in and lights the world on fire like you cannot tell me that so I'm glad that Flacco's not playing we've already seen you beat Anthony Richardson and yes he made a couple of deep throws in that game in the opener and which

seems like it was four months ago that opener that we went to in Indianapolis but I they should be playing Flacco they should be playing Flacco they're not playing Flacco. They should be playing Flacco. They're not playing Flacco. I think that benefits the Texans. But shit, man. This is a huge game. We're going to be in town. I don't know if we're going to go to the game or not. Tickets are fucking expensive.

So I don't know what we're going to do. But we're going to be in town. If anybody that listens to this has a tailgate or something, it might make it worth our while to go buy some tickets if you'll invite us to your tailgate yeah you need tickets to tailgate still i know but if i'm like hey i'll go buy some tickets if i got a bunch of booze and barbecue coming my way at some jamoke's tailgate i'm in you know uh so let me know and then of course you got this lsu who would have thunk that when this game was on the schedule that LSU going to Kyle Field is a battle between the

only two undefeated teams in the SEC right in terms of SEC play everybody's got a loss so it's fucking gigantic so anyone know where you should go watch that game on Saturday well I'm sure I mean any bar in the fucking town will have that game on now I know but I would just like to know if anyone we know will be anywhere well let us know. Send me a text. Send me a DM if you're somebody that's a gigamilk man or whatever. You're like, hey, we're going to go party at this place. We're going to get off the plane.

The good news is that game's a night game. Thank you. We're going to get our asses into Houston and we're going to go watch the LSU Fighting Tigers take on the Fighting Texas Aggies. I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun. Apparently the official LSU Fighting Tigers take on the Fighting Texas Aggies. So, I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun. Apparently, the official LSU tailgate's at the Kirby Ice House on Gessner. That's way the

hell out there, though. Yeah, we don't want to go to Gessner. Gessner's not that far. It's like Memorial City. Oh, that's where that is? Well, Gessner cuts through, though. That could be like Gessner you could find on the corner of Gessner and Bissonette, right? No, it's basically by the Memorial City Mall.

Oh, shit, then. That's a little bit of a hike. So, I guess we won't be doing that. That's the official LSU party. But, boy, that's tempting. Actually, yeah, by Bunker Hill, right? Yeah. So.

Build-A-Bear Workshop. So, is that off at 10 yep by the right by the mall okay well i didn't know there was a kirby is that kirby ice house you said i didn't know that i know there was another kirby ice house again i don't live there so it makes sense that i wouldn't know uh hopefully we get a job here at some point soon and it's somewhere in texas so i can start doing the podcast live in some places in houston that'd be fun. But anyway, so, dude, the fucking Ravens look good. Lamar looks good. Chiefs still look like the Chiefs. So as you look at it from the standpoint of, hey, where do you think the Texans are? I don't know. They're close to that level. Now

they're good. And maybe this is recency bias, watching them play really terrible football against the Packers. But then again, they played terrible football and should have won. But then again, they were gifted a lot of opportunities by the Packers and didn't really seize the day. So it just depends on how you want to look at that. But either way, I thought if the Chargers would have won this, they would have been right there.

Like you look in the AFC West, Raiders are out of it. Broncos are still there there but I don't buy them the Chargers were playing better and look Herbert's playing his balls off lately they just can't get the goddamn end zone they kick five field goals so um but Herbert's starting to look better like he was like dinking around 150 here 170 120 and then bam the last two weeks he's thrown for like 600 combined yards so um he's been better but um that's where we are as far as that goes oh boy um what oh tomorrow was it's a movie in mexican tuesday is movie in mexican what movie are we going to see we're gonna see that new

michael keaton movie well that should be good what's it about it's michael keaton i'm in no matter what i love michael keaton his hype intro for the pittsburgh game last night was great he's a big pittsburgh sports guy from what i remember i forgot how it worked out but when they were filming batman returns he either had it in his contract or they had to move filming so he could watch the pirates in the national League Championship Series. I guess that would have been in 92 or 91, 92, I guess it would have been. So the dude's legit. Some dudes like are from a town and they act like they're about the team, but they're really

not like, you know, the Kelsey's who are like all about Cleveland until you look at their Twitter and they're all about the Yankees or like LeBron, who's all about Cleveland until he's a Yankee fan. Michael Keaton's legit. Just like, you know, like, look, you want to give credit where credit's due to these celebrity types. Um, fucking Bradley Cooper. He's legit. Big Eagles guy, Miles Teller, big Philly guy. Those are legit. Um, I don't know who, who are the Houston celebrityston celebrity oh like the fat kid from modern family he's legit houston guy that loves the houston teams right st louis you got like nelly those are legit people but then you get the frauds like you know travis kelsey or lebron who are just a fan of you know

whatever team it's trendy to be a fan of uh but anyway you got uh but michael keaton legit pittsburgh yinzer motherfucker art dealer andy goodrich's life gets upended when his younger wife leaves him and enters a 90-day rehab program while also threatening divorce he's forced to take charge of their nine-year-old twins thrusting him into the world of modern parenthood which he is deeply unprepared for i'm in he told pat mcfied has mr mom vibes look if it's got mr mom vibes mr mom top five funniest movie of all fucking time he leans on his pregnant daughter for support who he hasn't been overly close with oh and that's what's her name that yeah yeah yeah speaking of movies 72

on rotten tomatoes that's hard to trust rotten tomatoes 92 on fandango oh well so um speaking of mila cooney she was in some you know the good classic comedy it's weird to trust Rotten Tomatoes. 92% on Fandango. Oh, well. So speaking of Mila Cooney, she was in some, you know, the good classic comedies. It's weird to say these are classic comedies, but comedies of the early 2000s, like she was in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. There's a great meme going around of Deshaun Watson, and he's got a big smile on his face, and it says, that's interesting because my achilles is located next to my cock and that of course is a play on super bad which is to me and i look we can go down the list of 2000s comedies and what's the funniest and what's not super bad mount fucking rushmore i don't know what i'd put on that comedy let's fucking do this let's Let's get wild here. I'm thinking Mount

Rushmore 2000. I'm talking comedies from like 2000 to 2010 because there's kind of a line of demarcation where a lot of those movies got kind of shitty. Although you did still get some decent ones like 21 Jump Street was after that. Like there were some, but really the golden, like the newest golden age of funny fucking movies that were just funny, didn't have a goddamn message, was like 2000. Really, like, you know where I'd start it? I'd probably start it with old school. Yeah. And old school started in like 02.

That was like the original, like, holy shit, this is funny. That's like the OG Vince Vaughn funny. So you'd go old school, and then right after after that you're starting to get like uh ron burgundy you gotta put anchorman for me anchorman's like an all-time yes now let me i'm gonna try to go through some of these and then we'll rank them but i'm trying to kind of in order of like chronological order of these movies obviously old school was there obviously ron burgundy um you could throw a 40 year old virgin was in that same era. Crashers was in that era.

Super bad was in 2007, I believe. And it fits in the era. You would go with forgetting Sarah Marshall, which I think is one of the funniest fucking movies. Like when I'm watching the way this guy's handling, breaking up with this chick, I'm like,

I'm watching this and I'm like, holy shit. That's what breaking up with a hot chick is like.'m watching this and i'm like holy shit that's what breaking up with a hot chick is like you're just crying and like it's fucking great um that was a great movie um then there's some sleepers in there like we talk about just friends all the time right all right google this look up like the top 20 comedies of the 2000s and of course depending on who gives you the list, like if it's... What year are we talking about?

Well, if you put like the, from the, like top 20 comedies of the, just put in the 2000s and see what... So in that, you'd have to throw in Bridesmaids, right? I think that kind of counts. Well, I didn't know what your cutoff was. Well, I mean, Bridesmaids is an example of a movie that snuck into the era of unfunny movies.

Most of the movies in that era were not funny. Sort of like 21 Jump Street. That sneaks in there. What's the one I'm thinking of that you like too? Paul Rudd. Best friend. Oh, God. I Love You, Man.

Yeah, that's me too. I Love You, Man is one of my favorite fucking movies later that was 2009 yeah so that was that's what i'm thinking like if you go from like 2002 to 2000 about 11 ish golden fucking era of comedy films well these have 40 year old virgin okay that i that's fine the hangover oh god yeah the thing is the hangover is good but the hangover doesn't feel like those movies like i like the hangover and it's got funny shit in it but honestly i think all those other movies we've listed are funnier than the hangover and the hangover too sucks super bad super bad is probably i could i would make a case that either super bad or crashers is my Washington monument

of comedies oh I throw Borat in there too fucking fucking Borat's brilliant and then there's Anchorman yeah Shaun of the Dead Shaun of the Dead wasn't bad I need to re-watch that real talk when I went to see that at the theater with my buddy I think that was back when I was working like nights at the radio station we get off at like 10 o'clock and I had a his I I had a propensity uh to falling asleep at the movies when me and my buddies would go uh Borat we already said Step Brothers is great I'm not as big on Step Brothers as a lot of people yourself included Step Brothers would not be on my Mount Rushmore you know what I think's funnier than Step Brothers actually is S is Semi-Pro. I think Semi-Pro is a better movie.

I think Talladega Nights. I think Talladega Nights is better than Step Brothers. I think Step Brothers are both those, but below Anchorman. Okay. Tropic Thunder. I need to go back

and re-watch Tropic Thunder again. Bruce Almighty. I don't put... Bruce Almighty, to me, doesn't even belong. It's funny. It's just not in that same category. Then they made this Evan Almighty. Giant piece of shit fun fact most shit starring steve carell not funny

dodgeball dodgeball was is in there too yes hot fuzz hot fuzz was another one that was the dudes that did shauna the dead um which was fine meet the parents oh god now meet the parents is 99 2000 meet the original meet the parents god now i want to watch that 2000 yes i guess it has to count um oh fuck do i love that movie god so many good quotes you know what these are the times i miss scott because scott and i just basically spoke in movie quotes all the time. That was our love language. But anyway, what else? Napoleon Dynamite. God, Napoleon's good too.

School of Rock. God, I saw School of Rock. When I went to see School of Rock, it's weird that you can remember certain dates that you saw movies in the theater. I went to see School of Rock at Tinseltown. The movie came out, I think, in 04 or either 03 or 04 LSU was playing in Washington DC against Virginia Tech that day and LSU lost to Virginia Tech so that may have been I think that's the day I went to see that and I fell in love with that movie

like I've never been an anti-Jack Black guy I love love Jack Black. His speech for Ozzy was really good. I don't know if you watched it yet. I didn't see it. It was really good. Best in show. That's the people that do the parody movies like the spoof doc, the mockumentaries. I need to go back and watch that too. What was the other one they did? Best in show and then there was

the music one that I thought was funnier than best in show. I don't know a mighty wind no no little bit dude little miss sunshine is another great movie I don't put it it's weird because like it to me it feels like a different category than like the wacky bro comedies but I thought that little miss sunshine was a beautiful fucking movie loved it and it. And they have Bridesmaids. Bridesmaids, good too. Then they have Enchanted, but the picture is of Norbit. Norbit, decidedly not one of the funniest movies of the 2000s.

Although I bet if I watched it now, I'd probably be tickled. Like I saw, I was watching something with Eddie Murphy. And they list Enchanted. Here's the thing about Enchanted. Enchanted was the one where Amy Adams plays the princess and she's in the real world and people are like, you're not a fucking princess. It had McDreamy in it. Cute movie, I actually liked it.

Give me 14 of them right now. Then there's Old School. Old School, I don't know that I'd put Old School in my Mount Rushmore of those. And Wedding Crashers. Crashers is no doubt in my Mount Rushmore. It's one of the greatest movies of all time. Zombieland.

Here's the thing about Zombieland. It's a good movie. Really the only funny, funny shit in Zombieland is when Bill Murray shows up in that whole great movie. It's certainly not in the Mount Rushmore. 50 First

Dates. i can honestly tell you this is real talk did not even watch it didn't interest me at all wedding singer not a 2000s movie wedding singer i love 50 first dates did nothing for me all i know about that is it featured that uh what's the ever is the color ever is the color of your energy who's that 311 i just remember that fucking song from there and that's it and zoolander zoolander i don't like What's that? Amber is the color of your energy. Who's that? 311? I just remember that fucking song from there and that's it. And Zoolander. Zoolander I don't like either.

I think Zoolander is kind of a piece of shit. I'm not a huge Ben Stiller guy. So if I were to go with my, if I'm going to look at this and say, all right, here's my... Now, another movie I'd include in funny movies, great movies that don't fit into this category per se is a John Cusack movie called High Fidelity, which is one of my favorite movies ever. Sludge loves High Fidelity. That was our love language. We would speak in fast times in High Fidelity. But, all right, here's what I would go with.

So Mount Rushmore's four. So from that era... god role models was good too god it was holy shit another paul rudd one was stifler um i would not include any of the american pies in there although american pie 2 an american wedding an american reunion knocked up oh god this is tough this is like I feel bad for people in this era. Do you count the Austin Powers? No, I don't. Gold members 2002.

Yeah, it is. I guess you could, but that feels different to me. I'm trying to sum this up. It feels different. But I would go, if I had to take the top four and i'm a big austin powers guy i used to have the austin powers cardboard cut out of my bedroom i had the road trip is on this other list road trip wasn't in the 2000s was it it was in like 1999 98 2000 oh you know what i do like euro trip and bad santa i don't see i guess you if it's just

comedies then yes i'd have to put bad, I guess if it's just comedies, then yes, I'd have to put bad Santa on there. Cause it's one of my favorite movies, but it's like, I don't consider that. Like when I'm thinking of like the bro comedies and shit, it's hard,

but if we're just Euro trip was 2004, I know Euro trips. One of my favorites too. Um, okay. I'm not as big on waiting. Uh, I did like the other one with,

Oh, uh, fucking, uh, Van Wilder, fucking Van Wilder. Love Van Wilder. And then the Just Friends, I think is a great movie too. But if I'm gonna go with Mount Rushmore,

so Mount Rushmore would be the top four comedies, and we're really gonna limit it to 2000 to 2010, right? Because I'm not gonna put Bridesmaids. But really, you're going to be hard pressed. Try it. I dare you. Try to find 10 funny movies, five funny movies from 2010 to now. They don't exist. There's not funny fucking movies. There have been multiple golden eras, if you want to call it that, of comedy movies. But we were in a huge boom from 2000 to 2010. And these poor fucking kids today have no goddamn clue.

They have no idea what it was like to grow up. And I was in my, you know, I was 14 in 2000. So I got to like grow up watching all the classic comedies of the 80s and the 90s. But I also got to watch these 2000s ones, which were raunchy and beautiful and great. I went to see American Pie in 1998 with my grandpa who grunted through the whole fucking movie. He was all aroused. Like, I've lived, okay? Crashers is 100% on my Mount Rushmore.

That's number one. Super Bad is on there. Super Bad, Crashers and Super Bad, I probably saw four times each at the theater. I had a pass to go to the movies for free. The Grand Cinema, Baton Rouge. Do you count Mean Girls? That's a comedy in 2000s.

It is, but I can't put it in the same category, but you know I love it. That's 2004. I can tell you where I was when I saw that. Me and my buddy Ben, we went to see the midnight showing of it when I brought him back home. His mom was super pissed.

She's like, where the fuck were you guys? I'm like, well, we're gay. We went to see Mean Girls. But two that are certainly on there super bad and crashers like when i met vince vaughn at that hotel the day before the saints got fucked out of the super bowl i said took a picture with him i said love crashers man that's what i told him that's the words i told vince vaughn love crash man also includes malibu's Most Wanted. Malibu's Most Wanted wouldn't be in my top four in there.

Juno. Juno's a beautiful movie. That, of course, is with Elliot Page. Dude, you know what's fucked? Like, dead Ellen Page I thought was cute. There was a guy I worked with who was infatuated with Ellen Page. Thought she was like the hottest ever but the thing about Juno is Juno's a good movie but Juno is also a weird movie because in

that movie you get Jason Bateman who's kind of infatuated with this teenage pregnant girl and seemingly wants to fuck her the whole movie it's a weird movie so I wouldn't put it in the funniest but it was good and of course forgetting Sarah Marshall you brought up. I love forgetting. God, it is not easy to do. You know, I would say, I told you this, Crashers is one of my favorite movies of all time, so it's on there. Super Bad, one of my favorite movies of all time it is on there the other two spots it's like fuck man it's it's rough this is tough man this is tough like mouth dry over there well i'm drinking my wine

i took a big chug of wine why i hear yours yeah because i just took a big chug of wine oh fuck that's great too i remember who i saw that movie with like it's wild man like if you name a movie like this is i don't know if this is cool or sad hold on let me i gotta say i guess i gotta chug this because i hate if i put it down i'm not gonna get back up again a real man could chug wine i'll probably go get the boat in a second is it not empty? No, there's still boat all out. Oh, I need to wake up early,

so we can finish that. All right, so, go down the list of these movies, and let me see if I can tell you. I've seen like eight different lists, so you need to pick your other two, because you already picked Superbad and Crashers. I did.

Is it Anchorman? Is it Forgetting Sarah Marshall? Is it The Hangover? I think, okay, I think I Love You Man would be on my top three. Borat? And maybe Borat. Look, I like Anchorman.

Like, I like these movies. Borat, when I saw Borat, I thought it was the funniest shit I'd ever seen. I didn't love Borat. I think it's fucking phenomenal. That was never one of mine. I think I would go I Love You Man, and I would do Anchorman and Step Brothers. Yeah. And my fourth one.

And Talladega Nights is fucking great. Like, I'm not as big on Dodgeball or old school. I like them. I'm just not as big on them. I don't know what my fourth would be. It would definitely be Anchorman and Step Brothers. And then, like I said, I loved I Love You Man. I thought it was really funny.

But you know another sneaky, funny movie that I wouldn't put in the top four but was pretty fucking funny? You, Me, and Dupree. I thought that was a good movie. 40 Year Old Virgin was a funny movie. I also really liked 40 Year Old Virgin. I was never into Borat. That's funny. I think 40 Year Old Virgin might be the only thing I ever

really saw Steve Carell in that I was like hey I like this. I just don't like Steve Carell for whatever reason was like hey I like this I just don't like Steve Carell for whatever reason I really hate him rock too and I liked road trip oh god Euro trip people just they sleep on Euro trip fucking great well me scoozy me scoozy it's it's oh fuck it's great this isn't where I like you could argue that Scotty doesn't know on its own makes euro trip a classic zach and mary make a porno that was fine um wasn't great if you're going with kevin smith movies of that era i would say that clerks two role models god role models was good too shit chuck and larry like it no and then if you talk about a movie that doesn't age well,

it's Chuck and Larry. And it's just kind of like, eh. Adam Sandler, to me, didn't make a lot of good shit. Like, once you got into the 2000s, I think most of Adam Sandler's shit was kind of blah. The hot chick. Hot chick with Rob Schneider didn't, that was fine, but it wasn't one that I was, you know, all in love with.

Yeah, I think Knocked I was all in love with. Knocked Up was good. It is. Now, you look at it also in a weird way now because you look at Homegirl. Apparently, she was a real bitch about it and was whatever. I like Shallow Hal. Shallow Hal is good too. I need to go back and watch Shallow Hal again.

Hot Rod. I know a lot of people like Hot Rod. Hot Rod, that's Anthony Sambergler. That one I didn't like as much. It was fine. Good music. It was a lot. The music of Europe was basically the music in that movie,

and it was pretty good. But the movie itself was fine. Oh, well, again, this is a little bit later. Pop Star. Pop Star is like the funniest movie of the last 15 years. That was in like the 20s. That was 2016 or 16. It doesn't fit this. It does not.

But if you were looking at movies that were actually funny from the last 15 years, like since you and I have been dating and married since 2011, there haven't been that many funny movies. Pop Star and Bridesmaids come to mind. 21 Jump Street. 21 Jump Street. And 22 Jump Street. 21 Jump Street.

If I could put this on this Mount Rushmore, I fucking love 21 Jump Street. 21 Jump Street. And 22 Jump Street. 21 Jump Street. If I could put this on this Mount Rushmore, I fucking love 21 Jump Street. Stop fucking with Korean Jesus. He busy. That's one, like, even I, every time it's on, I'll just watch it. Yeah, it's good. Oh, shit. Borat was good. I mean, like, you'll never get this.

I have a chair. King in the castle marita brother below um but yeah that was good shit too fuck and that's what I'm saying it's like every five minutes a funny movie came out and you wonder if it's like I just thought it was funny because that was my era or if they were legitimately funny and movies just aren't funny anymore still watch those now and they're still hilarious. Yeah, but do we think that when you talk to people who are a decade older than us,

they'll go back and say, God, you know what was great? It was Tommy Boy. Tommy Boy was great. I'm not as big on Tommy Boy. I don't think Chris Farley is that funny. I'm older than you. I forget that. Yeah, by like two years. It has nothing to do with that.

No, no, either way. Not enough where I forget that. Yeah, by like, okay, two years. Okay, it has nothing to do with that. Three? No, no, either way. Not enough where I'd go, oh, Tommy. I graduated in 2002. Great, I get it. But point being in all of this is like people will look back at like when I would talk with Scott. And he'd be like, you know, Stripes is great. And I'd be like, I just don't find these movies to be that funny. Like, do I look at those movies from the early 2000s and go, these are funny because I was 15 at the time and they were great and that's why I'll always love them

or were they truly just legitimately funnier than the movies we watch today and like I feel like I still have a decent idea of what's funny I watch shit and I'm like it's not funny to me and it's not because I'm old and it's not because like oh it's just too edgy and raunchy and I'm your grandpa and I can't handle it like if you look up the best comedies of the 20 teens and I guarantee you you could list these and I will find maybe on

one hand movies that I legitimately thought were funny Bad Grandpa was funny Bad Grandpa was and again Game Night was not Bad Grandpa was funny. Bad Grandpa was. And again. Game Night was not. Game Night had like 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it was shit. You liked Easy A.

No, Easy A isn't. But Easy A is like 2010. So it's like right there on the cusp. That's still when we were making funny fucking movies. It's not like a laugh out loud, like bro comedy movie. But Easy A is a good movie and bridesmaids of course the to-do list uh which one was that with uh aubrey plaza she wants to fuck folks oh yeah that was fine uh what else is on this list scott pilgrim versus the world never

got into that that was with michael cera and he has to encounter all these people in these little universes and shit anyone jumps three three before. Well that's a great one. So there's two legitimate ones of this era. I thought Deadpool was funny. Deadpool's fine. The second one was I thought blah but whatever. The first Neighbors. Oh yeah. Back before Seth Rogen was completely insufferable.

Booksmart not good. Booksmart got I think literally got 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and it's like this is shit. MacGruber. No, thank you. Crazy Rich Asians. Okay. Don't get me started on Crazy Rich Asians.

I don't mind rich people. I don't mind crazy people. I don't mind Asians. Put them all together, I'm fine with a Crazy Rich Asian. That's another movie that got almost 100% unanimous love, and all it was was a shitty romantic comedy, but with Asians in in it so don't tell me it was good if you would have put fucking three white dopes in that movie you would have

said it was a piece of shit but because it was asian people were like wow this is cutting edge amazing shit no it was a stupid romantic comedy get him to the greek oh shit but get him to the greek is 2000 oh that's oh not that 10. The fact I know this shit is weird. I can tell you who I saw that movie with. I saw it with Martin. You know where I saw that movie? So Martin came to visit me when I was in Houston, and we saw Get Him to the Greek at Demeer's Theater when it came out.

Horrible Bosses. The first Horrible Bosses was good. I'm going back to Get Him to the Greek. So it was funny. Hot tub time machine. The first one was okay. It wasn't great. But what's funny about all those movies,

those are when I was doing the mornings at 610. So Russell Brand did liners for all these stations to promote Get Him to the Greek. And all I remember is there were liners for all of us and it was like hey it's russell bryan go see my new movie uh get him to the greek you're listening to mark that mark and john lopez on sports radio 610 that's all i remember about that and then um we also did a thing for uh what was the other movie you said you said get him to the greek and then there was another one. Oh, you know what? No, the Hot Tub Time Machine.

We had, what's his name in the theater? Who's the, Craig Robinson. He was in the studio with us because he was at the improv, and that was right around the time that movie came out. That movie actually bombed. It wasn't successful. Grown Ups. No, Grown Ups is terrible.

It's fine, but it's terrible uh what else is on this there's not bad teacher bad teacher was not good it was fine but it wasn't good like anything with adam sandler the one with that was funny was with uh jennifer aniston and uh andy from the office oh no uh no no you're thinking of Homeboy from SNL. You're thinking of fucking soccer coach show guy who's married to what's her fucking... Yeah, I know what I'm thinking about. I know.

You're talking about The Millers. That is a fucking funny movie. I agree. And that was like 2014 maybe. That's a funny movie. I like The Campaign. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah.

The Campaign. I want to watch that right fucking now. The Campaign is a great fucking movie. Good shit. One of the best lines ever from a Will Ferrell movie is there's a scene when he leaves a voicemail for like his chick that he's fucking on the side. And he's like, you know what I'm thinking about right now? I'm thinking a Shane, a pussy like fuck.

This movie is good. Like Will Ferrell doesn't do funny shit anymore. He makes movies where he takes his transgender friend around town and tells you you're horrible if you don't understand it. There's Pitch Perfect. Pitch Perfect was fine, but I didn't think it was funny. It's not like Laugh Out Loud. It was just a fine movie. There's Ted.

The first Ted was good, yeah. I actually thought the Ted TV series was better than both movies. I agree. Ted TV on Peacock is funny. It started kind kind of weird but then it got better and i liked the second season of that i still want one wanderlust i actually was pleasantly surprised by that that's a paul rudd one with yeah uh with what's her name colleen it was was that also um what's her name tony collette might have been in that that was fine fine. But again, you're hard-pressed to find. We rattled off 20 funny movies from the early 2000s

like it was nothing. Now you're really kind of... Anchorman 2. The first four hours of Anchorman 2 was funny. 22 Jump Street. What's funny is I don't remember a ton about 22 Jump Street as much as I remember the first one, which we saw multiple times at the theater.

Yeah. Booksmart sucked. We said that already. Yeah. The nice guys. Basically, and this is, I have nothing against the ladies, but any movie where they take a concept and they're like,

this is the female version of blank. Well, that's why Bridesmaids was so good because it wasn't like trying to be the female version of something. It was just funny. Yeah, whereas like, oh, here's Lady Ghostbusters and here's Lady Ocean's Eleven

and here's Lady Superbad and it's like, no, it's just not funny and it's not because I don't think women just funny. Yeah, where it's like, oh, here's Lady Ghostbusters, and here's Lady Ocean's Eleven, and here's Lady Superbad. And it's like, no, it's just not funny. And it's not because I don't think women are funny. I think Bridesmaids is great. Mean Girls is great. I mean, I can list you a bunch of movies where there were chicks. There was the one where Amy Poehler and Homegirl play sisters. That was pretty funny, too.

That was pretty good. Yeah, so I have nothing against lady comedies. I'm not someone that sits here and is some curmudgeon that's like ladies can't be funny that mother movie the house that i actually kind of found that movie to be that tickled me a bit too where they open the casino in their house like that tickled me so there you go you got some ideas i still got boda to go drink i guess so and i still haven't gotten into any um i wanted to get into some of the trump mcdonald's shit too but shit i don't know all i know is this i did not expect this conversation to go in this route god you know what happened in like the late 2000s though that

really like wait what was that you know what happened in the late 2000s though that really just set comedy back what's that that? Melissa McCarthy. Yeah. She had that string of movies, and I thought it was because... Well, she's got to get credit for Bridesmaids. She was funny in Bridesmaids. But she wasn't the lead in Bridesmaids. She was like the supporting cast in Bridesmaids.

Well, she was the wacky, like... She was the... What's his name of Bridesmaids? Another thing that hurt comedy, too, was when homeboy Alan from The Hangover, when he started leading in movies, these movies weren't good i didn't hate the one with him and uh robert downey jr i hated that that was planes trains and

automobiles except just like real just negative vibes about it's called due date okay but look at these melissa mccarthy movies that rattled off after fucking bridesmaids let me see if i can guess them hold on there's the identity theft or identity thief that was terrible there's the one where she plays a cop with um did she play a cop with sandra bullock the heat okay um there was the one where she's the rich lady that works with the girl scouts yeah um there i mean look oh tammy there's tammy. Look, she made some... There's also Life of the Party where she goes back to college. There's also Spy. Oh, God. I'm not trying

to be that guy who's like, oh, well I like this kind of indie movie and I thought that's where she was better. There's also Thunder Force. Fuck. Was she in the one with the puppets on Netflix? Oh, she was. Yeah, the Happy Time Murders. But she was also in a movie called,

what was it called where she stole the, she was an author that stole. Can You Ever Forgive Me? That was a good, like, it's weird. And this is going to make me sound like weird, indie, hipster, canned film guy. But I thought that her movies, where she plays more of like a serious role, are actually, there was the one that she was in

that was pretty good where she plays more of like a serious role are actually there was the one that she was in that was pretty good where she and um who's the the the black gal that farted on what's his name in the tiffany haddish so they were where they were like ladies that were like mobsters i forgot what that was called but i thought that was decent then there was genie not decent at all god that i think you and i watched that at home and i passed the fuck out yeah we used to make a habit of watching melissa mccarthy movies just to make fun of them yeah they're not great um but yes you're right melissa mccarthy did no good and honestly if we're being real if we start looking at like these movies with john cena christ this bit this guy's made some bad movies like these um so the rock has made some bad movies like these The Rock has made some bad movies

just a different world man but anyway maybe I'm going to go get another glass of wine and reignite the conversation about oh Blades of Glory oh how did we forget god that was like right after two years after Napoleon Dynamite

what sucked for John Heater is like, he tried, like he made a movie. I don't know if anybody remembers this movie. He made a movie with Billy Bob Thornton called school for scoundrels. And you're like, well,

this can't miss it's Napoleon Dynamite. It's fucking it's it's bad Santa. And it missed. And then Billy Bob Thornton also made a movie with Stifler, um, called, um, Mr.

Woodcock was the name of that. really wasn't that good boy what a conversation glad we had it uh all right i'm gonna go get some more wine and maybe we'll talk about trump