The Josh Innes Show - More Radio Rantings (Sort Of)

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

I don't know how I ended up going to down the radio wormhole again, but here I am I was on a major Butt Rock kick on Christmas Eve. I still believe Classic Rock radio needs to evolve and play more of this music. Somehow I end up discussing great disc jockey's and why the profession used to require great skill. But, currently it requires next to no talent to be a DJ. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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i don't know what the job is gonna do my dad always calls and asks me about that. He's like, so how's the job hunt going? Well, not a ton happening right now. Goddamn holidays will punch in the balls when it comes to looking for a job. Now, granted, I haven't had a job since August. And granted, some other people are getting jobs too, so what the fuck? But you know what? It is what it is. The way I look at shit is, que se va, se va.

I got a couple of more months of collecting money to do nothing, chicks for free. And then we'll figure the shit out. That's what I'm working on right now. But you know what? I've told you. They got an opening for a classic rock morning show in Houston. Like, I should be the first person they call. I will continue to reach

out to them. It's not like I'm super passionate about classic rock, like real talk. Classic rock is kind of a world where a bunch of old people sit around and stare at the clouds and bitch all fucking day. So it's kind of tough in that world. I prefer having music that's a little bit more current if I'm going to be on a music radio station. But look, I'm the guy that if you put me in there right now, I guarantee I can get some fucking numbers. I could do it right now. So, um, but perhaps they're not all that interested in what I have to do. And that's fine. I know we talked about this the other day and I'm going to get into the texts and stuff here, but I'm just baffled by this idea that classic rock radio has to be like this world where

it's like 1967 to like 1994 and once you get past like certain songs from pearl jam and nirvana it's dead like i was in the car christmas eve right and uh i started looking up butt rock on on my iTunes like I like butt rock I'm a butt rock guy Nickelback Hinder Creed Seether whatever like people call it dad rock in some cases it's butt rock and it's fucking incredible and it's great I like it more now than I did back then I'm clearly an old dude right i'm a middle-aged man at this point in my life fuck it i love butt rock so i put on like lips of an angel i'm listening to hinder right i just look up hinder that was like i was actually i was looking up a list of like the top butt rock songs of all time and one of the songs near the

top of the list is lips of an angel by hinder and i'm like i want to hear fucking hinder lips of an angel today so i put it on i'm cranking it in the fucking car christmas eve driving around i gotta go make a couple of stops you know get some shit for the ham and shit for dinner so i'm you know making my moves and i'm i'm just jamming windows down it's fucking cold but i don't care I'm driving in a beat-up fucking Sonata. I don't care. It's really good to hear your voice saying my name. It sounds so sweet.

And I'm jamming, all right? And I knew that there were some other Hinder songs that I dig, obviously. Like, Get Stoned is a good Hinder song. And what's the Better Than better than me like these are the hinder songs i know there's a lot of hinder songs that sound like every other hinder slash butt rock song of that era and i didn't know some of them so i just let the thing play out all these hinder songs and before you know it i'm jamming out to like 2008 hinder that i didn't know existed and i'm fucking loving it i'm having a

grand old fucking time like some there's a song called the homecoming queen but i don't know that anybody else in the world knows this song it was on some like 2009 hinder album that nobody gave a shit about but i'm jamming to this windows down i'm like i like fucking butt rock and the fact that like classic rock radio stations ignore butt rock the fact that classic rock radio stations don't you know move the playlist at all really pisses me off it's bullshit and now some would argue that classic rock is a category and that category is a certain number of songs from a certain number of artists in years then why do you play nirvana nirvana is not classic rock why do you play pearl jam pearl jam's not classic rock by that definition either foo fighters is not classic rock the fact

that i turn on classic rock fucking radio stations and hear foo fighters as if like that's cool like hey here's there goes my hero 1998 1999 but you mean to tell me that nickelback doesn't fit you want to tell me that creed doesn't fit you want to tell me that Nickelback doesn't fit? You want to tell me that Creed doesn't fit? You want to tell me that Hinder doesn't fucking fit? You want to tell me that Puddle of Mud doesn't fucking fit? Oh, fuck you. And that's where I get worked up about it. I'm a big believer in the evolution of that format. And if you evolve in that format, then I think you could be huge in that format.

You could actually bring in younger audience and still do cool shit. As is most classic rock radio station is remember when garbage but anyway i digress boy i was jamming out to that hender though so i pull up to the academy i was went to academy sports and outdoors the right stuff the low price every day i go up to academy because i'm uh i'm looking for like a particular seasoning for this ham, one of these meat church seasonings. I am a big consumer of the meat church YouTube channel. Awesome. If you're into learning about meat smoking, that sounds odd, I'm aware. But if you're into learning the art of smoking meat and other things, watch these kind of channels. I love and listen to the Jim uh that Jim the John Lopez podcast but anyway so I pull up and I'm jamming Hendrix Lips of an Angel right there

like kind of at the end when it's really good to hear your voice saying my name it sounds so sweet that the drums coming from the lips I'm into Windows down. I pull up to this minivan and it's got two bumper stickers. And both bumper stickers are the same thing. Joy 99.1 or 99.1 Joy FM, which is this Christian station, that somehow every car in St. Louis has a Joy FM sticker. And everyone who has a Joy FM sticker is among the worst fucking drivers on the planet. But anyway, I pull up in this minivan sitting in the parking spot. Might have been in a handicapped spot. I don't know. And they are blasting Joy FM. So I pull up and I'm listening

to a song about a guy who's dating a chick but wants to fuck his ex-old lady. He's on the phone with her while his hot ass current girlfriend's sitting in her underpants in the other room probably DTF and they're listening to like some Michael W Smith shit over here I'm like boy this is two opposite ends of the spectrum but you know what's Christmas what are you gonna do it was a butt rock Christmas for your boy and I'm a big butt rock guy and if more of these classic rock stations would evolve the playlist to include more butt rock and shit from the early 2000s the format would be better off and you wouldn't be stuck having to be stodgy old and boring like most classic rock stations are the music on classic rock is fine like i don't dislike aerosmith and i don't dislike death leopard and i don't dislike bon jovi and all they go down the list of these bands I don't dislike them all the music is solid I think there is a place to add more music and music that would help you appeal

to a younger audience and get rid of some of the softball light rock shit that you play on there too and I know that sounds like a hypocritical statement coming from a gentleman who's a big yacht rocker but I'm not talking about yacht rock yacht rock on its own is an amazing genre i'm talking about getting rid of some softball ario speed wagon journey bullshit ain't nobody need to hear fucking the the fucking uh don't stop believing on a radio station that plays ozzy osbourne you will never convince me that that makes sense you come out of like no more tears and here's fucking soft-ass journey shit don't need that i want some good aggressive rock where someone with a good aggressive personality makes sense not somebody's fucking grandpa on in the morning thank you now with that said oh shit well a friend of mine i

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and I knew it didn't make sense for me like I'm not going to apply for shit just to apply for shit like if I don't think it makes sense for what I do especially now like I know we've talked about this before but like I'm at a point now where I don't want to take shitty jobs just to take shitty jobs, just to get fired from shitty jobs because I don't enjoy them. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know what I want to do and I know what line I'll go to in certain formats and certain jobs. I'm not a disc jockey. I will never be a disc jockey. I'm pretty fucking good at disc jockeying because I live my life around it. So I know how to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't have the big balls voice really that makes you a good disc jockey. And I don't, and look, I'm not trying to judge anybody who is a disc jockey. I got a lot of friends, amazing disc jockeys, and I admire them.

Okay. I'm not judging anyone who is a disc jockey. And back in the day, it was truly a great skill. Can you imagine the skill it took before there were computers involved to actually be running a live radio show with music where you're airing commercials, you're airing the records, playing records like that was a skill, not necessarily a skill at like album oriented rock stations where a stoner would just sit there and play a nine minute song and then push play on another record and play another nine minute song and talk very little like you know that was Pink Floyd on the rock now here's Led Zeppelin like that wasn't a skill those people were completely void of talent they just were in the right place at the right time and good for them. But a skill, like when people hear disc jockeying, and I'm talking good disc jockeying, 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s disc joc and I were drunkenly doing this podcast that was

being listened to by like four people I was going off about disc jockeys and PK is like all these disc jockeys suck I'm like no they don't they possess a skill it's not a skill that I choose to use it's not something that I cut like I desire to do I'm a talk show host I'm a radio dude in that way but when you go back and you listen to disc jockeys of a certain era, and it's not just what they're saying on the air, think about this. Like these people that blow themselves currently, these current radio people that blow themselves for their radio talent, these little teenage girls that are doing it now and these little doofuses that are doing it now, which again, I'm not trying to judge people or judge you on your

age, but all these people think they're really big shit in an industry that's pretty much dying, and these people like to swing their clits around like they're the biggest shit on the planet when they're not, okay? You know who's a big shit disc jockey? Like Big Ron O'Brien. That was a big dick disc jockey. Those were legit legendary people, right? Some girl that they're paying 8.50 an hour to that runs off to her facebook page to bitch about how she's not getting more attention on the radio station like they ain't real disc jockeys if all you have to do is hit one button to play a song you ain't a disc jockey good for you you get on the radio most of them can't even

do it live they sit there and record it in because they can't afford to, they don't want to fuck it up. So they couldn't even do it live. They are mostly void of talent and skill, but the people that did it back when it was a true talent and a true skill, like my dad and I'll blow my dad on this one. So when dad first got into it, there was no digital, there was no computer. So everything you you did and even if there was my dad wouldn't have known how to use that shit he's a dipshit so like when dad would do a bit like if dad were talking to casey casem or something like i i know we played it on this pod not on this particular pod but on the pk pod like if you think about all the elements that were running live to make this happen it was fucking remarkable that you're going without

a net. It's live. You're doing like one reel to reel over here is you doing the Casey Kasem voice. You're talking to that Casey Kasem voice that's playing. You're playing one cart, eight track player over here that's playing the bed music. You've got your other song queued up and ready to go in another cart. Another cart is a drop you're going to use. None of this is on a computer. None of this is digital. It's all in real time. And that's a fucking talent. And that's a fucking skill. And that's why people today don't get that. That's why like when you just roll into a radio station and you voice track 10 radio stations over at iHeart, you might sound good doing it. And I'm not judging you for that. But what I'm saying is, if you didn't have to grow up in it when it still required some

level of going without a net, even me as a guy working in music radio, that predates me. I didn't live that life, but I at least watched it enough where I have a respect for the talent that is required to do that job. So when I hear people kind of like mock dudes that were dish jockeys of a bygone era, fuck you, man. They may not be out there doing the most innovative shit and their content may be kind of hokey and they, your caller 10, but it took talent to do that. It like the, all the shit that you had to do behind the scenes to make that 30 seconds on the radio sound spectacular.

That's a skill. That's a talent that most of these dipshits that just do nothing but whine on their social media about how tough life is. That's the other problem I have with radio people is radio used to be fun. You used to tune into the radio because you wanted to hear people that were seemingly doing better than you in life having a good time and giving you something to aspire to. The number of people's Instagram accounts I see who are whining about how difficult their fucking life is because they have to play fucking Sabrina Carpenter on the radio. Your life's pretty fucking easy. You may not be making the money you think you deserve, but I assure you, you don't deserve the money you think you deserve. Your job's going to be done by a fucking robot soon. It basically already is done by a robot there's

like eight dish jockeys in the whole fucking world now so you may want to find another skill says the guy sitting in his underwear waiting for a radio job trust me that it's not lost on me i totally get it but i'm just i'm fascinated by how these people react to this shit. I'm like, you guys are dopes. And I'm not telling you there aren't good disc jockeys. But even people who are still in the game that were in it back then, they would tell you. Like, even the greats. Like, there's a guy named Broadway Bill Lee who is one of the best disc jockeys I've ever heard. And Broadway Bill Lee, like, his heyday was in the 80s at radio stations in New York.

But Broadway is still doing it. And obviously it's easier now than it was then in terms of how you're playing your sound effects and your music and all that. But do yourselves a favor. Google or go to YouTube and look up Broadway Bill Lee and watch this guy working his fucking magic in the 1980s. Look up a guy named George McFly in Chicago. This dude is legendary, like the way he's working this shit. And then a lot of these videos will have the behind the scenes on how it all comes together.

Fucking spectacular. A buddy of mine named Greg Thunder, who used to do the morning show on Kilt FM in Houston, now is in Minneapolis, has had a ton of jobs. He was an old school 80s jock back in the days of big hair hairspray blow in the vine the record covers all this shit you listen to some of his old shit and this guy was a fucking legend i will always admire those kind of guys and we should because if you watch the skill that went into doing that it was remarkable

the number of buttons and shit you're hitting over there, it's like someone landing a fucking 747, man. But anyway, radio, not a rant so much, just a radio thing there that just occurred to me while I'm sitting here in my bed with my dog at damn near noon on the day after Christmas. Just thinking about these kind of things, man. Looking forward to getting back into it and shoving it up a bunch of people's asses because I'm going to do that. Anyway, enjoy podding with you guys. I got to do the Texan shit. Here I go again. Shit. Okay. I'm going to get into the Texans. I promise we're going to do that.