The Josh Innes Show - NFL Trade Deadline Winners and Losers

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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So it's been a while since I've done a winners and losers, a USA Today winners and losers. But today, the day after the NFL trade deadline, we get a brand new winners and losers. Today's winners and losers, the NFL trade deadline winners and losers. Now, before we do anything, I would like to guess that the teams who made moves are the winners and the teams who didn't make moves were the losers. That is my bold prediction. my bold prediction on Nate Davis's USA Today story about the NFL trade deadline winners and losers. Or, you know, like a team that needed to unload players and admit that they were tanking or whatever.

So I'm going to guess teams like the Saints are losers because they didn't trade enough players. And I'm going to guess that Howie Roseman's Eagles were winners because they traded for every fucking player. And teams like the Lions who didn't make a move at all are also losers. And the Jets are probably winners because the Jets traded away good players from a shitty team and blah, blah, blah, blah. That's going to be my guess, the winners and the losers. Now, at least in defense of this, it's not like there was an actual winner and an actual loser like we get in the usual winners and losers, which is, hey, who were the winners and losers from last night's football game? Oh, I don't know, the team that won won and the team that lost were the losers. But whatever, let's play a couple commercials and let's dive on into it.

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Like, it's not like baseball. It's not like basketball. Generally speaking, earth-shattering moves are not going to happen. Now, you will see moves like the Sauce Gardner trade to the Colts, which is a pretty seismic move, and it shows that the Jets are willing to tear this thing down, build up

assets. That's how they're going to have to win, and they're going to end up being a winner. If you're looking for a winner and a loser in this thing, that the Jets are going to be considered a winner, because They unloaded some good assets, Quinn and Williams, and they unloaded Sauce Gardner in the name of getting picks back, which is how they're going to have to build. So good for them. But the trade deadline, by and large, is not going to make or break anybody in the NFL. It never does.

It very rarely has that big of an impact. So just going into this, up until a couple of years ago, I never heard anybody even talk about the NFL trade deadline. I'm in Detroit. People are outraged that they didn't make any moves at the deadline. And here's what you want to tell these fucking people, right? Four years ago, five years ago, the Lions were the most worthless organization in all of football. One of them, certainly. You're talking Jaguars level, Panthers level, like you were a dog shit organization.

And for most of the existence of the Detroit Lions, it has been a giant throwaway. Now you've had three good years, and all of a sudden people call up and bitch because you don't make some random trade for a guy that most of you probably wouldn't have even known anyway. So, like, could the Lions have gone out and made a move and gotten somebody that improved their offensive line? Sure. Like Trevor Penning got traded from the Saints, right? They traded him to the Chargers. The Chargers needed offensive line help to protect Herbert because they've got like basically their whole offensive line has been just eviscerated, right? Well, could they have trade for Trevor Penning? Sure. Trevor Penning also sucks. So before you go out there and get all outraged and pissed off that a team like the Saints traded Trevor Penning and the lions weren't in on it, just remember that Trevor Penning sucks. So just because you traded for some, somebody doesn't make it a good trade doesn't make it the right move but what i've learned here like and look and in two or three years that the lions are still spinning their wheels and they haven't gone out and made every move possible to try to win that's fine you're still new money this is a new

situation and i bet by and large people in detroit are just fucking stoked to have good football to have winning football to go to the stadium every game and and see a team that has a chance to win every game and is going to go to the playoffs they have to be thrilled with that now there are things they're not thrilled about. Like the fact that it's impossible to buy a ticket because there's a waiting list and the tickets are a billion dollars. The get-in price for most Lions games on the secondary market is like three or four hundred bucks a ticket. It fucking sucks. That part blows. But if I look at the Lions, I'm not looking at them going like, oh my God, this team has to make some giant move at the deadline. But you turn on the radio, you listen

to people talk, you'd think it was the biggest fucking thing that's ever happened that they didn't make a move. And again, this is going to piss some of those people off. And I said this on the radio today. You're still at a point where you're on a honeymoon stage with this team. They're what, three years into being a good football team. They're not in your 20. This isn't the 2016 St. Louis Cardinals who went to the playoffs like 11 out of 15 years. That's not what this is. This is a new money situation. The vast majority of people are still thrilled that they go to a stadium and see a team that's competitive every week and can compete for the Super Bowl. So getting outraged over the fact they didn't trade some random fucking dude that you don't even know is bizarre to me, but whatever.

But you look around the league and you look at some of these guys that are getting traded. Look, start with the Eagles. Howie Roseman is a gangster. And I said Howie Roseman was a gangster when I was in Philadelphia. When everybody had written Howie Roseman off because basically he had lost the war, the Jeffrey Lurie Chippley, Howie Roseman wore. Howie Roseman lost it and had been demoted down the hall and was out of sight out of mine and everybody was on Chip Kelly's side. He wanted to buy the groceries. He was the guy. And Chip Kelly ended up being a disaster. Howie gets the gig back. Within a year, they're back in the Super Bowl or in the Super Bowl. And then they become the most dominant front office in the NFL. No one is better. There is not a better front office in the NFL than the Eagles. The Eagles are elite. And Howie Roseman is the best GM, not just in the NFL than the Eagles. The Eagles are elite. And Howie Roseman is the best GM, not just in the NFL. the NFL, but he is the best general manager in all of sports. So, like, it's not even fair to compare what you do to what the Eagles do, because no one

else does what the Eagles do. There are teams that take chances, like the Colts have decided, hey, we're taking a chance. We're going to go out and make a move, get rid of a first round pick for Sauce Gardner. Or a couple, I think they gave up a couple of picks for Sauce Gardner. They did that, and they're in win now mode because their division stinks. So they're going to easily win the division. You're going to get in the dance. See what you can do to try to win once you're in the dance.

That's fine, too. but nobody does it like the Eagles. Nobody does it like Howie Roseman. Oh, I used to call him Fonsie Roseman when we were on the air in Philly. He's like the Fons. He walks in there, hits the jukebox, A, and all of a sudden all the girls are flocking to him and everything works out for him. Howie Roseman's a fucking stud. And he's built up so much equity because of multiple Super Bowl appearances and a Super Bowl.

Two Super Bowl wins. That dude can do no wrong. He is a god of general managers. And just to think a decade ago, most of the city was like, oh, we're on. Chip Kelly's side. It's amazing what can change in a matter of 10 years. Because, right, that was the end, right? That was around the end of 2015. No, they fired Chip Kelly at the end of 2015. So it was 2014 going into 2015, right, that they demoted Howie. So a little over a decade ago, Howie Roseman's been sent down the hall. He's out of sight out of mine. He's been banished to

the supply room where they keep the staplers. And now this dude is legendary. The best GM they've ever had in Philadelphia in any sport. The best GM in any sport across all professional sports right now in America. So it's not fair if you're saying Detroit or Houston or Kansas City or wherever to compare what you're doing to Howie Roseman because quite literally nobody does it as well as Howie Roseman. And he's the greatest example of the salary cap doesn't matter. And I say that all the time. We hear about the salary cap. What about our cap? The cap is bullshit. Everyone knows the cap is bullshit. The cap is pointless. It's there, but it's not real. You can always finagle things and make things work. It's, it's pointless. So the cap doesn't matter, but Howie Roseman

is a gangster. So to compare what he's doing, it's like he's on his own platform. That's like he's a 10, right? That's like trying to compare someone who's a 7 or a 6 to a 10. Let the 10 have their own universe and let the 6, 7s, like kind of bounce around and see who's hot or who's not. A 10 is a 10, and he is a fucking 10. That said, let's take a look at this story. Who are the winners and losers, according to Nate Davis? Winners, the New York Jets. Why are they the Jets?

Well, they added assets because they got rid of good players and added assets. Good for them. The Colts, no shit, the Colts are a winner. They traded for Sauce Gardner. They gave up two first-round picks, but there's a chance those will be low first-round picks anyway. So good for you. You picked up a rock-star corner on a team that has had a hard time stopping the pass.

So rock on there. Okay, Howie Roseman's a winner. Again, these are such obvious answers. My God, they pay people to write this shit. Howie Roseman, once again, he is the best GM in all of sports. Of course he's a winner in all of this. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Now, there's a different one.

But Jackson Smith and Jigba got himself a running mate here with Rashid Shaheed from the Saints. Now you've got a guy who can take the top off of the defense and open things up even more underneath for JSN, who is a rock star. Seattle can win the Super Bowl. It seems ridiculous to say that with Sam Darnold that they can win the Super Bowl. Watch them play. They are fucking good, man. They are really good.

The NFC's got some damn good football teams. One of them in this case being Seattle who can beat anybody on any given day. Mickey Loomis, according to this, is a winner as well. Is this the losers or the winners? This is still the winners. New Orleans Saints says the longest-tenured GM, who's in the first year of a job, blah, blah, blah. Loomis got a fourth and fifth rounder for Shaheed, who's on an expiring contract. They unloaded Trevor Penning, who wasn't in the Saints' long-term plans and got a fourth and a sixth.

Cool. Like, there you go. It wasn't a fourth and a six. I forgot what they got for him, but whatever. Point being in all of this is I disagree that Mickey Loomis is a winner because Mickey Loomis is a loser. And the Saints organization is a losing organization. They should have given up a lot more. They should have traded anything they had a value.

They should have found a way to unload. And maybe they tried, but they should have unloaded Chris Alave. They should have tried to unload Alvin Kamara, but Alvin Kamar doesn't seem to want to go anywhere. Anybody with any sort of value, they should have unloaded on that team and built up as many draft picks as possible. They could have done more. I disagree with them being. The Bengals are a winner. Like, okay, this is whatever.

Losers. No, sorry. The Bengals were winners and losers. Jerry Jones is a loser. Whatever. The Patriots are losers. Okay. Kyler Murray is, okay, this is stupid. I'm not wasting my time with this. I've given you some legitimate thoughts on things. I'm not going to sit there and break down this dumbass story about winners and losers and whatever. But I will tell you that Howie Roseman is a god of general managering. And everybody knows that. The dude is a rock star. There is no better general manager in any sport than that dude. So of course he's a winner. But like I look at the lions. Again, the lions, I think, are a Super Bowl contender. There wasn't a move to be made out there. I don't believe. that was going to make or break them, change their fortunes or whatever.

And it's just lazy for people to pile on and be like, oh, they're just, they don't want to spend the money, blah, blah, blah. It's easy, lazy bullshit. And that's what you get from the media here. Easy, lazy bullshit. That's what they do here. They did it for the baseball team. Now, the baseball team had legitimate moves they could have made. Like, they were tied to Ehuyenio Suarez, but they didn't want to give up prospects.

That was stupid. They didn't go out and get a top shelf closer. They didn't want to give up prospects. That's on them. That is something worth criticizing. I ended up having an ultimate collapse. But the football team, like, it's different. I just don't believe that there was some move out there that was going to make or break them and turn them into some amazing team.

If you compare them to the Eagles, they failed because everyone fails compared to the Eagles when it comes to trade deadline and drafting and everything else. You compare it to the rest of the world, I'm like, I think the lions were fine, but whatever, the people here have lost their minds. Anyway, more to come.