The Josh Innes Show - NFL Week 4 Preview

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

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Now, I think they have weapons. I love Trey McBride. And if they can get Marvin Harrison Jr. Going, that's better. And they did last night. We'll see if that carries over. But I also think they're a team that's beaten the two shitty teams they've played. And then they've blown games against the two better teams they've played.

Seattle's a better team than the Saints who they've played already. and San Francisco with a backup quarterback. You lost a game to a backup quarterback. So I think the Cardinals are fine. I wouldn't take the Cardinals to win a playoff game against anybody, and this division's certainly competitive. But I like Seattle. Sam Darnal, you talk about a guy that's had a resurgence,

you get out of one place. And that dude bounced around a lot, kind of like Baker. We love to talk about Baker-Mayfield and all the stuff that guy has done and all the stuff he's gone through and how he's bounced back and done what he's done. Good for him. same with Sam Darnold. But let's also look at Sam Darnold and look what happened when he got into the playoffs last year.

There's a different world when you're talking playoffs versus regular season, and he got smoked in the playoffs last year by the Rams. So does that, is it sustainable with him? Look, you put up numbers, a guy can play. Like, he's a guy you do what he's doing right now. He can play for 10 years, but I don't think he's a guy that's going to win a Super Bowl. All right, let's see. Vikings and Steelers, they play in Ireland, so we get an early game,

and 9.30 East game. These are two teams, neither of whom I think are good. The Vikings completely play a little defense. But you got Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rogers, and I think Rogers sucks. I actually think the Vikings are going to win the game, even though I don't think the Vikings are very good. The Steelers are another one of those teams where you're like, how are you guys doing this?

You're two and one, but how are you doing it? I think Carson Wentz, solid backup, destroyed the Bengals, but didn't have to do much against the Bengals. You look at the Steelers. What's kind of surprising about them is just how mediocre their defense is. And I think the Vikings are going to be able to move the ball. And I think the Vikings are going to win the game. Commanders and Falcons, the Falcons suck.

Now, they've got playmakers all over the field. Bejohn can play. I don't know if Pinnix is good or not. I may have been wrong on Pinnix. I took him to throw for 4,000 yards. I took him to be a guy that was going to be a player this year. And so far he's not. got a touchdown and two picks and his team's one and two,

and they were shut out by the fucking Carolina Panthers last week. So they have to play better. But I don't know if they're going to play better enough to win. They are at home. I mean, you have to expect Atlanta to play the best game they've played all year. That would have to be the expectation. To come off getting blown out and shut out by fucking Carolina, they're going to play the best game they've played all year and they're at home.

Commanders, I also don't buy either. So we'll see. Saints and Bills, the bill should beat the shit out. of the Saints. There's nothing really to talk about there. Maybe the Saints can keep it competitive, probably not. The Saints may not win a game. Look at their schedule and tell me where you're going to find a guaranteed win. I mean, they get to face Carolina twice still, I guess. So there's that. Look, they probably won't go 0 and 17. But, you know, because Carolina is on the schedule. And like, they could probably play with an Atlanta. They can probably play with a Tennessee,

who I think is on their schedule. So maybe they'll want a couple of games, but the Saints are just embarrassingly inept. And the Bill's, you know, are a juggernaut. And I think there's going to be a lot of Bill's big plays in that game. And the Saints are probably, the spread in that game, by the way, is something like 13? Like some giant number. Like it's a number that should not exist for a professional football team versus another professional football team. I was thinking about this the other day. When you look at sports teams that are in the professional ranks, it's wild to me that there can be teams when they're all professionals, which means there's a certain number of people who are good enough to play football

at a professional level or baseball or any sport. Look at it in baseball because the numbers are easier to break down. So there's 25 guys on a roster, 12 pitchers, 13 position players or whatever, whatever the numbers are, however they break down. There's 25 players. There's 30 MLB team, so 30 times 25 is whatever 30 times 25 is. There's 25, oh, look, I'll do the, what is that, 600 something? What is 30 times 25? I sound like a dipshit now trying to do math in my head.

Let's see, 30 times 25, 750. So there's 750 major league players playing actively at a given time on teams. 750. It is wild to me to imagine. And if you cut it down even more to where there's only half of that, give or take half of that number is playing positions. It is wild to me that there can be teams when we're talking about the elitist of elite where one team can win 110 baseball games,

105 baseball games, and another team filled with professional athletes can win 60. Like, it is wild to me that there can be a professional team that much better than another professional team. It is wild to me that in a football stadium, in a football world, in the NFL, there is a team like the Bills who is like two and a half touchdowns better than another professional football team, that being the Saints. For that to be the case, you have to have an incredibly poorly run organization, and that's what the Saints are.

There is no way, like Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh Pirates are not. not a good organization. They are terribly run and they don't care about fielding a winning team. Owners just collecting money. So it makes sense that they wouldn't be as good as the Dodgers or the Yankees. But in the NFL where there's collective bargaining and there's revenue sharing and all this shit, the fact that there can be a team that's that much better than another team in the NFL is astounding. And it just truly shows you how poorly run the Saints are, how inept they are as an organization. They are shameful right now.

Browns and Lions, I think the Lions beat the shit out of them. Both teams are coming off of, you would call unexpected wins. I'd say the Brown's win was far less expected, far more unexpected than the Lions. The Lions were a five and a half point dog going to Baltimore, but the Lions have a loaded offense. Their defense may be better than we thought. The Browns do not have a loaded offense. The Browns have Joe Flacco and David Najuku, and they're facing a team that many after two weeks had already anointed the NFC champion and maybe the Super Bowl champion, and they were down 10-0, and they were averaging

three yards of completion, and somehow we're able to win that game. So teams that come off of major upsets like that, I like to bet against. I'm aware that the Lions are also coming off an upset, but they're a really good team. Lions at home, and I think they're going to beat the shit out of the Browns. Panthers and Patriots, the Patriots money line, while it's still a relatively large number, if you have a suicide pool like we did what used to do with Allie, I think the Patriots to me or my favorite suicide pool play. The Patriots, they can sling it.

They can move the ball. I mean, Drake May is thrown for almost 800 yards through the first three games of the year. If they don't throw an interception in the end zone and fumble a handful of times, they probably beat the Steelers. They should have beaten the Steelers. That's part of the reason why I think the Steelers are on borrowed time

is they were gifted the game by turnovers. The better team on the field last Sunday was the Patriots. The Panthers are never going to be the better team against anybody. They just so happened to beat Atlanta 30 to nothing. So they're feeling good about themselves. That's the best win they've had in years. Patriots are reeling and have to win, and Vrable's got to get a win. They're at home.

In the scheduling quark, they're already 0-2 at home. This will be their third home game. I would take the Patriots, and I think the Patriots are going to win that one decisively. Giants and Chargers, my boy Jackson Dart's going to go out there and sling, but the better team is probably going to win that one. Chargers, I love them a lot. Offensively, I love them. of the weapons that they have on offense.

I'm all about the charges. I love that team. So I think they'll win, but I think Jackson Darts can excite people. And I think that team that New York's going to be able to go out and move the ball finally. I love that guy. Eagles and Bucks. I'm a big Buccaneers guy, too. But they're beat up.

There's no Mike Evans. Igbuka's been dealing with some injury stuff, too, although he played through it last week and played well. Baker's dealing with some stuff, too. I get that they're at home. Bucks kind of have like an Achilles heel thing with them. the Eagles. Both teams are undefeated. Sexy little undefeated matchup. But I'm taking the Eagles. I think the Eagles are still going to win this game. The Buccaneers, if you look at what they've had to do, they've had to rally to win two of their three games. I mean, I think maybe all of their games,

in fact, they've had to put together drives at the end of the game. And then you look at the teams they've beaten and you go, how good are these teams they face? They've had to barely, again, three point went over the Falcons, one point went over the Texans, two point went over the Jets. They have faced bottom feeders. There's one win between those teams right there, right? I think I'm right on that. The Texans are over. The Jets are over.

The Falcons have a win. So you're looking at like a one and eight group of teams that you were able to beat. And all of them took, you know, last second drives to do so or close drives. Two-minute drills with the Texans and the Falcons game to win them. The Falcons had to bail you out with a miss kick as well. So I think the Eagles are going to be, and I think they might beat them pretty good in that one. Let's see, Titans and Texans, ooh, we have O and 3 versus O in 3. The Texans have to win.

They have no choice but to win. They're at home. And not only, like, a win would be great. Like, that'd be nice. You have to dominate. We've talked about it all week. You have to go out and beat the shit out of these guys. If you don't beat the shit out of the Titans this weekend, people will have no interest in your next game and your game after that.

You're 0 and 3. So you've got 14 games left. You have a stretch here where you've got Ravens, Seahawks, Niners, Broncos coming up after this. It is completely realistic to think that the Texans could be one and six. Like based on what we've seen them do and how they've played and how shitty and inept they've looked offensively, how disinterested C.J. Stroud has looked. You look at their schedule and you're going to the Ravens and to Seattle after this. You got to win this.

because you're like, season's over. Like, they ain't coming back from this oh and three. This ain't one of those situations where you're like, oh, oh, and three, but they put it together. Not when you've got Raven, Seahawks, Niners, Broncos. Those are all strong fucking teams. They very well could be one in seven at some point. So you have to win this.

Oof. This thing could get really ugly, really fast, man. Like, I don't really look ahead at the schedule, but why not? Oof. With the way this team has played and how inept their offense has been one of the worst in the league so far this year. Say they beat the Titans and get to one and three. Tell me the next win.

Are they going to Baltimore? Are they going to Seattle? San Francisco at home, Broncos at home, Jaguars at home, Titans on the road. Then they close it out with bills at home at Colts, at Chiefs, versus Cardinals, versus Raiders, at Chargers versus Colts. This thing, they ain't good, and that schedule is not doing them any favors. So this is a must-dominate game on Sunday. Colts and Rams? At some point, the Colts have to get derailed with Daniel Jones being the stud that he's been.

But I think this week, the Rams bounced back. The Rams took a punch to the dick in the way they lost to the Eagles. They should have won that game. They were up big the whole time. They finally let Jalen Hertz throw because they were down. They were able to change the game and win it that way, block a couple of kicks. That does not happen. I think the Rams at home were able to beat the Colts. Colts are due for a loss.

Jaguars and 49ers, 49ers keep finding ways to do it, man. You talk about a team that's just battling injuries. They're just going through it and they keep finding ways to do it. Jaguars are unimpressive, but they're two and one. I think the 49ers are still going to pull that one out, though. Ravens at Chiefs, I think the Chiefs suck. I will go so far as to say, I do not think that they are a remotely good football team. maybe they'll find a way because they're the chiefs

or maybe they'll figure it out in the next two or three months I think offensively they're difficult to watch I think they're an unwatchable team we talk about you know Drew Breeze doesn't enjoy watching the Saints or the well he probably don't like watch of the Saints certainly doesn't but he doesn't like watching the Eagles that fits into that category of teams that are just unwatchable the chiefs are an unwatchable shitty football team

I think the Ravens who are really feeling it after losing that game at home to the Lions? I think the Ravens go to Kansas City and win because I think the Ravens are a better football team than the Chiefs, and the Chiefs fall to 1 and 3 and 0 and 2 at home. I think Lamar is going to ball out. And I'd also keep an eye on Derek Henry, who's super pissed about the way things have gone

the first three weeks of the year. He could have a big game as well. Bears and Raiders. Bears have a legit shot here to get to 2 and 2. This is a game you've got to win. But the other problem with the Bears is they're coming off of like the best game Caleb's ever had and they throttle the Cowboys.

Now you go across the country to take on the Raiders. Raiders can move the ball in the air. The Bears can give up some yards in the air. Boy, I don't know. Like, I want to believe in the Bears because I like the offensive talent they have. I like DJ Moore. I like Roma Dunzee. We haven't even seen Colston Loveland become anything.

I like DeAndre Swift. Like, they're just loaded with, oh, by the way, Luther Burton Jr. They figured out what to do with him now. Look out. Like, these guys are fucking stacked. They've got players everywhere. If they ever figure it out, the bears are going to fuck people. They are going to, at least offensively, are going to mall people.

They are going to boat race people offensively if they ever get it figured out. With the combination of Ben Johnson, if Caleb ever figures it out, holy shit, they can be nasty. Packers and Cowboys, it's desperation time for the Cowboys, but the bad news for the Cowboys is the Packers lost to the fucking Browns. So look out, Cowboys. You're about to get it. Unless the Packers are not nearly as good as we all thought. The Cowboys have the worst pass defense in the league. I think Jordan Love's just going to go out there and carve these cats up.

This thing could be a shootout, but the Packers are going to win. And then we'll look at the Monday night games. Maybe come Monday. We'll look at the Monday night games. And we have more to come.