The Josh Innes Show - NFL Weekend Recap

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

We had a fun weekend in the NFL. The Eagles continue to win games despite fans and media saying they suck. Joe Flacco let me down in a major way. Could Kirk Cousins be the league MVP? We take a look at the current MVP odds. Who are some .500ish teams that are still scary? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, Jamokes. Let's take a look around the NFL here as it's Monday. So you got Monday night football with the Chiefs and Tampa. That feels like a game that we're going to see passing yards. That is the hope because that's what I'm going to take when I drive over to Illinois today to put in my bet for the Monday night game. A lot of passing yards. I love taking the Baker Mayfield led Tampa team even without their receivers.

I love Kate Otten. My man makes plays. This could be a big tight end game tonight, by the way. You got Kate Otten, and maybe Kelsey's going to ball. He played well last week, so we shall see, friends, but I'm looking forward to this one tonight. I don't know that it's going to be overly competitive. Maybe it will. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe it'll be competitive. Maybe it won't. I don't know, but I just look forward to watching the ball fly through the air. Now, looking at some of the other games from the weekend, obviously, you had the Texans lose to the Jets on Thursday. The Texans look dreadful. But fortunately for them, as we look at Sunday night, the Colts couldn't take advantage of it. I'm not going to say I'm wrong about playing Joe Flacco. Obviously Flacco looked like

shit too, but Flacco was terrible and he obviously did nothing to help them beat the Vikings last night. The Vikings are a good team, mind you, but of course this makes it easier for all the Anthony Richardson truthers to say, see, see, way to go, Colts, you're stupid. But Anthony Richardson still sucks. Two things can be true. Flacco sucked last night, and Anthony Richardson does suck and really shows no reason for you to believe

that he won't suck this year. And when you're four and four and had a chance to still win the division, I'm all for going to Joe Flacco and I stand by the flacky man, even though his poor play led me to not hitting my bet last night. I I stand by the flacky man even though his poor play led me to not hitting my bet last night I still stand by the flacky man mostly because I hate the Colts people that's that's one of my downfalls people make me hate or like certain things like people see me on

social media all the time and they're like oh you're MAGA you're a Trumper aren't you because you comment on all these liberal things and insult them yeah because they because they fucking annoy me. It doesn't mean I like Trump. He's going to fucking lose because he keeps stepping on his own dick all the time, right? So, like, I just like to shit on the liberal people because the liberal people are the ones that keep popping up in my feed. And they're extremely dishonest in a lot of stuff they say. But even when I do that, I go shit on the other people, too. And you know what happens when I shit on the other people? They get offended by it.

Like last night, I was watching Sunday Night Football and this Trump ad popped up. Sick of seeing political ads. Like, listen, I don't give a shit how much you claim to love America, Kamala. And I don't care how much you claim to love America, Trump. Like that's the thing that interests me about elections, right? You know people are bullshitting you and lying to you to get your vote yet you're like i believe them why why do we feel this way like you know that they're just trying to get in bed with you they don't think you're beautiful they're not gonna marry you

they don't love you they just want to fuck yet for whatever reason we sit here and we're like god that's good she loves america and he loves amer. Like, oh, shut up. But I'm watching last night and her ads are like super syrupy. Like, you know, uh, you know, we can be great and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. While you're calling half the country garbage. And then you got the Trump ad and this thing, like there are high, when I was in high school, before all this great technology came about in video editing, just basic, general video editing shit, like green screens that looked fake. Now kids can make a goddamn major motion picture on their phone. But back in 2003, 2004, when we were in our video class,

where we did a news show that would air every Friday. It was called Panther Sports Weekly. We would have the most rudimentary things of that era, and it looked really kind of janky. Even the janky shit that we did looked better than this Trump ad that he pumped out after Sunday Night Football. He's standing in front of these fake-looking American flags. He's wearing the tacky Make America great again hat. And the delivery was just so terrible. I think it started with hello, sports fans. Like it just everything about it felt hacky and just dopey.

I'm like, dude, you've got all this money. Can you not produce something a little bit better that looks a little bit more professional that looks a little cleaner than what you did. Like this looks like when people, like when you can add a background on a picture on Instagram, right? Like you take a picture and like, Oh look, now I'm standing in front of the Brooklyn bridge or Oh look, now I'm standing in front of the Sphinx. Like this is what this looked like. Like, what are you fucking doing? You've already blown the election you're going to lose she's going to win so fine but like do a little better just a smidge just a hair i saw that at the end of that game and

i was already pissed off about the game because the flacky man let me down and all these dumb colts people get to celebrate and i hate them but uh cowboys and the falcons uh the falcons are now six and three kiddos. There is an argument. I got to find the – I got to see the – I need updated NFL MVP odds. I need to find those because I feel like Kirk Cousins should be in the MVP discussion. Let me look this up. MVP odds NFL. Let's see here.

MVP odds NFL. Is there anything updated updated let me go to Vegas Insider is this new or is this old uh this is from when is this from is this the most recent ones I'm not sure uh let's see no this isn't the most recent ones because if it was we'd be seeing my man on there. Kirk Cousins should, I update, should be someone who is considered for the MVP. Let me see. I think these might be some of the odds here. Let's see. I think these are the updated NFL MVP odds. Let's see. Josh Allen is plus 280. That's fair. Lamar Jackson is plus 280. Jared Goff is plus 650. Mahomes is plus 700. Jaden Daniels plus 1,000.

Jalen Hurts plus 1,500. Joe Burrow plus 1,900. Brock Purdy is plus 2,500. CJ Stroud is plus 3,000. And there's Kirk Cousins at plus 3,000. So that would make him 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. 10th currently in MVP odds. I can give you a reason why he should be MVP over all of those guys.

Most notably, he's the quarterback of the fucking Falcons, and they're dominating the NFC South right now, and he's the difference maker on the team. He wasn't there, now he is. And they're good. The Bills are always good in the regular season. Why is Josh Allen the MVP? Why? Because he lost his wide receiver.

Big effing deal. Like, they're always good. By the way, your division is terrible too. Look around the AFC East, right? The AFC East is the shitty Patriots, the shitty Jets, the shitty Dolphins who've had their quarterback hurt for most of the season anyway. So the Josh Allen shit, like to me, Josh Allen's not the league MVP. Maybe my criteria for being league MVP is unfair, but I think you have to look at dudes who are clearly

the difference maker. Now the starting quarterback's always going to be a difference maker on teams. Like without Jared Goff, the Lions aren't the Lions. Without Lamar Jackson, the Ravens aren't the Ravens. I would put Lamar over Josh Allen only because Lamar's become a really good freaking passer, and every day he's thrown for 250, 300 yards, and he's still running the ball well. Hell, you could also, though, make a case that Derrick Henry's the MVP of that team because he's changed the game for them as well. Guy's scoring one or two touchdowns every week. Jane Daniels

is another example. He's obviously going to be rookie of the year, but what was that organization before Jaden Daniels? Garbage. What are they now? They're winning games and they're doing it because of him. He's made them better. Jalen Hurts is the MVP over Kirk Cousins, I think it's Poppycock. I think the Eagles are fine, but look at what Kirk Cousins has done. Do I think he should? Look, I would take Kirk Cousins as MVP over C.J. Stroud. They both are at plus $3,000. So that means you bet $100 if they win, it's $3,000.

I like C.J. Stroud, and he's had to deal with a lot of shit, and he deserves a lot of praise because that offensive line is terrible. He's now losing his wide receivers. But what we're starting to see is now that those wide receivers aren't there, how good is this offense? Because that offense sucked against the Jets, and I don't know where it's going to get much better. Nico's going to be back.

That'll be good. But you've obviously lost Diggs, which is huge. Your offensive line stinks. So Stroud deserves credit for that, and he deserves to be considered among the best in the league. But when you look at the Falcons, I mean, last year the the the texans were a good football team kirk cousins comes to atlanta and kirk cousins is the reason why that team is six and three what if kirk leads them to 11 and six what if they're 12 and five you know who like again he's

not going to win that award over lamar or Pat Mahomes or Goff or any of these guys but he should get more run than he's getting no doubt so should Sam Darnold Sam Darnold was supposed to be the backup to JJ McCarthy who I don't think is going to be good what has Sam Darnold done oh he just made Minnesota one of the best teams in the league he should be getting more run than he's getting maybe I just I give an unfair advantage to guys who are not supposed to be doing it versus guys who do it every year. Maybe we just get burned out on seeing the same guys every year. So you're used to it. You're used to Lamar being great. You're used to my homes being great. By the way, my homes hasn't

been great this year. Like that's the thing. My homes turns the ball over every game. Most of these chiefs games are kind of nail biteriter type games. Now, he's doing this with dudes that have been hurt. I get all that, but let's not act like what we've watched from Mahomes this year is world-beating shit. The reason why Atlanta wins games is because Kirk Cousins has to throw for 250 to 300 every freaking game. Give that man some love. Before Baker started turning the ball over a ton i think plus 10 000 was a solid play and i'm gonna guess it wasn't plus 10 000 before then you know another guy i love watching play matt stafford that seattle rams game yesterday was fun had a ton of passing yards i went to overtime good times all right if you're ready to win some real cash

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All right, let's look at some of these other scores. The Dolphins lost late in the game to the Bills. There was some stuff at the end of that game that was a little questionable. And you want to talk about ball busting. I missed the 500 combined passing yards in that game by like four yards. Not that you guys care. You've got other things to be concerned about. All I needed was the Dolphins to throw the ball forward on that last play of the game.

Instead, they do 400 laterals. And I end up not getting that. But again, the Bills are fine. The Bills are good. Josh Allen has to do it in the postseason. I don't care what Josh Allen does in this AFC East, which is terrible. I don't care what he does in the regular season. Maybe that's unfair. Maybe we're being unfairly critical or judging him unfairly. What matters is what happens when you get to the postseason and you end up inevitably having to run into a Pat Mahomes. What are you going to do?

That's your big bad wolf. That's your Freddy Krueger. That's your final boss. The final boss to getting you where you need to go is you need to overtake Pat Mahomes. Just like Jordan had to beat the Pistons and LeBron has to. Everybody has a final boss that's above them and they finally have to take them down Mahomes you know just like Jordan had to beat the Pistons and LeBron has to like everybody has like a final boss that's above them and they finally have to take them down until you get past Mahomes

you're just a regular season dude good for you you're a good player probably a hall of famer it doesn't do anything for me Raiders and Bengals the Bengals win that one big obviously the Raiders suck they just fired a bunch of people I I still, and this might be stupid, but I still believe that the Bengals are dangerous. Although they find ways to lose games they shouldn't, but they've won this one. They're 4-5. The AFC is open.

We've talked about it. You look around the standings. Teams like the Chargers are right there. Teams like the Bengals are right there. Hell, if the Dolphins would have won this game yesterday, they're 3-6 or 3-5 at that point, they're right there. So with the extra playoff spots that have been added the last couple of years, teams like the Chargers aren't dead.

Teams like the Bengals aren't dead. And if you're the Bengals and you've got Jamar and you've got Joe, if I face them in the postseason, that's still a concern to me when you're dealing with a guy that talent-wise is still one of the handful of the best in the league and one of the most dynamic playmakers in the league. These fucking LSU receivers, man. What a world this is. Like, Justin Jefferson's balling out of his mind.

He was outstanding last night. Jamar has been down, actually actually the last couple of weeks. But Brian Thomas, who didn't do anything this week, is usually a guy that's guaranteed to make big plays. Malik wasn't really great. What's amazing about Malik, and I took him to have his receiving yards and he didn't get them,

but Malik had zero catches in one target in the first half of that game for the Giants. Second half, he ends up with nine catches. The problem is all of his catches are like four yards. So he ended up with like 50-something yards. All right, so Bengals, I still believe that they can be something. They just got to get hot. They got to rattle off three, four games in a row or two.

You know, win back-to-back. Win three games to get you excited. Chargers are another team. I said this a couple weeks ago, then they lost. But the Chargers are at 5-3. And since the first couple of games of the year, they've been better offensively. Ladd McConkie is doing great things for them. And they're able to move the ball vertically as it looks like Herbert is healthier.

And he's just unloading now. Like, he's playing good football. He looks legit. He's always been good, but they're starting to win games. And now at 5-3, they're right there too. They're a team that, again, when you have good quarterback play, you can scare people. Commanders at 7-2.

They did it again. Now the Giants stink. They're a 2-7 team. They're 0-5 at home. And I just talked about Malik, how he didn't do anything in that game. But the Commanders, here they are. You look around the NFC East, the Eagles have been quietly winning games. And they haven't even faced the Commander skins yet.

So that'll be fun. That's a fun one to see. You get to see kind of the young line against the older line there and see what happens. But the Giants aren't even worth talking about. Saints and Panthers, that was the doo-doo bowl, I think, is what one of the Saints players called it. Wasted time.

We talked about it in another podcast with Dennis Allen getting fired. Those are just two worthless teams. I'm glad to see the Broncos and Sean Payton finally got their comeuppance, got their dicks knocked off by the Ravens, which I'm fairly certain we and the rest of the world said would happen the Broncos are winning a bunch of games against shit teams and everybody wanted to talk about their great defense and oh they're like number three defense in the league look out for the Broncos and then they got their dicks knocked off by the Ravens 41 to 10 how many yards oh Lamar just threw for 280 Derek Henry ran for 106 like yeah congrats on your great defense when you're playing the Panthers

and you're playing the Saints and you're playing the Raiders a bunch of shitty teams with shitty quarterback play congratulations Sean Payton you went in and you beat the shit out of Spencer Rattler and Andy Dalton and uh and fuck was playing quarterback, Aiden O'Connell or Gardner Minshew for the Raiders. The Jets. Congratulations on beating up on some of the shittiest teams in the league to get to five and three. Then you run into an actual football team and you get to see how the real world works.

You got your dick knocked off and I'm glad to see it. Good job. Jags and Eagles. Jags are a waste. The Eagles almost gave it away. They tried. Coach still makes bad decisions that people judge him for when it comes to points, leaving points on the field. They still won the game. The end of that game fascinated me too and it's an epidemic that we're seeing across the NFL and I've talked about it on another podcast before.

When teams are in late game situations and have plenty of time to go down and score, they seem to feel compelled to just take shot after shot after shot instead of dink and dunk and dink and dunk. Like, yeah, it would be nice to pick up 40 yards on one play. You know what else would be nice when you got a minute and a half to go

and you need one score to win? Pick up six yards at a time and just move the ball. But instead, everybody wants to throw it deep. Like the Jaguars caught a break in that game because of a really kind of a shitty pass interference call late in the game that set them up. What did they do after they got that gift? They throw to the end zone with a minute and a half to go

and throw an interception. I forgot where that pass was thrown from, the 20, 15, something like that. You're there. You control the game. You're down by five. You need a touchdown to take the lead. A touchdown and a two-point conversion puts you up three. What do you do instead? Balls to the end zone. Balls to the end zone. Why? When you got a minute and a half left and all you need is a score and you're in plus territory like deep plus territory the whole playbook is open you want to run a draw want to draw you want to run a screen run a screen like there's so many things you could do but instead everybody wants to show how big their fucking arm is and throw deep balls like let's say

that with a minute and a half to go, Jacksonville completes that pass in the end zone and they take the lead. Great. So you just gave the Eagles a minute and a half to go down the field and kick a field goal to beat you. The decision-making is stupid among these quarterbacks. And again, I go back to Drew Brees, but guys like Tom, guys like Drew Brees, guys who are legends of the game, all timers, they know how to take what's there. And the guys who call the plays know how to give them options about what's there. Go back and watch fucking Derek Carr at the end of the Saints game. It's fourth and four.

All you need to do is to get in the field goal range to win. You're already at like the 50. It's fourth and four. You throw a low percentage fade down the sideline with the game on the line? Don't give yourself any option. Look at Flacco last night. Flacco had so many opportunities in the game to throw little dump-offs that could have gone for big yards.

Instead, the guy kept trying to stretch the field on every play, and he got his ass kicked because of it. I don't understand what these guys are doing. There's no shame in dump dump offs where running backs and fast receivers get you 20 yards, but everybody wants to win these games throwing deep balls. Sometimes it works, but it's when you catch them off guard. Like you look at the Rams game, the touchdown that won them the game. Fuck, that was gorgeous. Look at what, um, you know, with all the mistakes that, um, Gino made in that game. Like Gino tried to give the game away to the Rams for most

of it. Yet when the game was on the line, came back and tied the damn thing. Like, but a lot of these guys don't understand the concept of just short yardage, catch it, get out of bounds, you know, catch it, clock it. None of these guys seem to care about this. Their main ambition is to show you how big their dicks are by throwing the ball 40 yards four times and being done it makes no sense to me and that happened to the jacks the jacks should have won the game well let me see exactly where that um let me go to the jags game here because now i now i want to know where the last pass of the game was thrown from on the field i think it was like the 20 15 or the 20 let. Let's see here. That last drive that ended in the interception in the end zone after the pass interference. I think they had

one more completion before then. So there was a pass interference, then an incompletion, then they complete a 22 yard pass. So they're at the 13. You're at the 13-yard line with a minute 42. You literally have the entire playbook at your disposal. You will not run out of time. If anything, there's going to be nothing but time because Philly's going to burn timeouts to try to win the game. And then the first decision you make is throw a dumb ball into the end zone. I don't understand these dummies. You could have run anything in that situation

with a minute 42 to go. It is virtually impossible to run out of time in that situation. Time is not your enemy. Time is your friend. When you've got a minute 42 and you're a touchdown away from winning, the clock is your friend. But these quarterbacks don't seem to get it. They're dummies. I don't understand it. That's what they do. They're morons. Let's see some of these other games. Obviously, I brought up the Rams game. That was a fun game. Bears and Cardinals, that was not a fun game. Not even worth talking about. Packers game's also not a fun one because you didn't really see what the Packers are in that one, mostly because you've got an injured quarterback. And you could argue they should have put in Malik and maybe it could

have given them a spark. Really, you should have. And when you're down 20-something points, your quarterback's beat the fuck up, is growing, is hurt. At that point, it's kind of like, let's see. Let's try it. Let's go with Malik and see if he can run around a little bit. But the Lions are a really good freaking team,

and they're fun to watch. But I don't think that's a true gauge of where the Lions and Packers are relative to one another. And you're going to get a matchup in a couple weeks. They're going to be back in a dome. They're going to be back in Detroit. And maybe Jordan Love is healthy. And I think that changes the outcome because, dude,

the Packers have playmakers everywhere. I think the Packers are a good team. But when your quarterback's groin is destroyed and he's out there playing through it in the rain, that's just a game you're not going to win. So give credit to the Lions. But I think those two teams are closer than this game would indicate. Rams and Seahawks was fun.

A lot of passing yards in that one. A lot of drama, and I enjoyed it. Seahawks lost again at home. But thank you for the passing yards. And we brought up the Colts and the Vikings. Flacco was fucking awful. There's no other way to put that. I'm all for the guy.

I'll defend the guy. I'm on his side. I think he should be the quarterback. I think he gives them a better chance to win. But last night, he was terrible. And that's the thing that couldn't happen. If you're the guys making the decisions for the Colts and you got people shitting on you saying you made a horrible decision and you've ruined the confidence of your young quarterback and all that.

The one thing that you could not do, the thing that you could not allow to happen was you could not have your guy go out and be terrible. And the reality is Flacco was terrible. He had the same offensive line issues that Anthony Richardson has to deal with, but he was terrible. And there were so many opportunities in the game when it was still a game. They were in that thing. They should have won it. He throws a pick. Next play, Darnold throws a pick you're right back and they still fuck it up he the problem is there were so many opportunities for dinks and dunks and five yards that could turn into 20 yards but he didn't take him he kept taking shots down the field and he was terrible so look I'll defend you and I defend my stance on that that I think they should

have rolled with him but he fucking sucked last. And that is the worst case scenario for the Colts decision makers who have been just destroyed by the world, social media, actual media. The worst case scenario was for Flacco to go out and just be awful. And he was terrible. Now, Jilly believes that they like threw the game on purpose because they don't like him. I don't know if I'll go that far. Maybe we'll talk to Jilly about her conspiracy theories later. But anyway, all right, we'll talk later.