The Josh Innes Show - Pavia Got Hosed

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

I just don't see how Fernando Mendoza so easily took down Diego Pavia in the Heisman race. Let's look at the head to head. I think his biggest downfall is the thing that made me like him.... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He seems very simple. I didn't actually hear his Heisman speech because I really don't care. But I guess I can listen to some of it now. Let's see here. Fernando Mendoza, let's listen to his Heisman speech. I'm sure I got all the voters and everybody all hyped up because he's such a gentle man he's such a nice boy such a wonderfully nice boy so I'll play some of this here in a second um but and I heard it's a very nice speech again he's probably played it up very well

but like if I had my druthers I'm taking I'm taking Pavi I'm a Pavia guy okay but we'll get into that let's play a couple commercials in here Fernando Mendoza at Fandall Casino you get even more ways to play dive into new and exciting games and all All of your favorite casino classics, like slots, table games, and arcade games. Get more on Fandual Casino. Download the app today. Please play responsibly 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. If you have questions or concerned about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you,

please contact Connects Ontario at 1866-531-2,600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. Of course, people are crapping on Pavia. And look, his family brings it on. His brothers are drunk and obnoxious and fighting people. as mom's an attention whore, who I like a lot, and Pavia's arrogant. But you know what? After he lost, didn't win the Hizman, he said F the Heisman voters. And, you know, put up the picture online and people are all judging him and shit.

Of course, everybody makes everything racial. So I read things like, oh, this is what you think Shadur is like. You know what I think is interesting is. As I think that in black culture, they just lump every non-black group into white. So, like, Asians are white. Hispanics are white. Like, everybody's white. If you ain't black, you're white.

is, I think, kind of how it goes. Because, like, the idea is, like, all you white people, this is what pavia. I'm like, his name's Diego Pavia. He ain't a white dude. Like, you think he's Jewish? Like, what the fuck? But, like, like, so obviously it's, oh, you guys shit on Shedurg because you think he's arrogant.

Well, two things can be true. He is extremely arrogant and obnoxious, and so is Diego Pavia. It's not always like a this or that, right? Like, sometimes both guys doing it in different ways can be the same level of obnoxious. I think Pavia should have won the Heisman. Like, if you just look at the numbers, like, no offense to, you know, to Fernando Mendoza, his numbers weren't even close to the same level as Pavia. And that dude every week, weekend, week out, wasn't playing Texas and LSU and all these other big-name schools. Like, congrats, you played Ohio State in the conference championship game, and he played Oregon.

Whoopty fucking do. You know, like, congratulations. Like, look, this is no knock on that dude. The idea that Pavia shouldn't have won the Hizman over that cat, just compare the two numbers. So, like, when Pavia says F the voters, I like when a guy stays in character. It's like wrestling, right? Like, I'm watching the John Cena last match, and it's like, you break the K-fabe, and then you watch the video of yourself and you're crying all this shit.

How about you give me a little K-fabe? Stay in character. Don't give me the bullshit of, like, shifting because people are judging you now. Nobody wants that. You know what people want, like, at the end of Scrooge with Bill Murray? I don't want Bill Murray to become a nice guy. I want Bill Murray to stay the same fucking asshole he was. Like, sometimes stay in the asshole.

is good playing your character not changing under pressure like me like here in Detroit I used to come to work wearing my flip flops every day because I like flip flops that's my favorite footwear I'm comfortable in flip flops I lived in Houston I wore flip flops I lived in Philadelphia people started making fun of me and judging me for wearing flip flops to work every day and it became some talking point around here so eventually I just started putting on fucking shoes and like I succumb to the pressure I like when people don't I like when people just say fuck it This is who I am.

And then, of course, Pavia apologized later for it and said, I'm sorry, blah, blah, blah. But I like the fact that he stayed in character. And I like the fact that he threw up the double birds and said, fuck you. Where's, I thought I should have won the Heisman. Good for him. Anyway, let's hear from Fernando Mendoza. Alberto, my brother, my closest confidant, the one I trust more to anybody, get through a tough day, tough play, tough game. I love you, bro.

I love you. And thank you for always giving it to me straight, no matter of the circumstance. Thanks. Thank you to Coach Dunn and to Christopher Columbus High School for giving me a home, a dream to follow, and more importantly, a brotherhood. I'm not going to lie to you. Like, everything about this just seems hokey and doofy, and maybe he's being sincere. I'm not doubting that he's being sincere. Maybe he is just a dufus, and that's his whole schick. But I would have loved to have heard what Pavia would have said if he got up there. And I want to hear what Pavia's family would have said. I wanted to see what Pavia's mom would have been wearing. Are there any pictures of Pavia's mom and what she was wearing? I want to see her doing the Hizman posing her short shorts. That's what I want. Like, bless this guy's heart.

Like, this, Fernando Mendoza may go down as the worst Heisman trophy winner ever. No offense, but that's what it's feeling like. To my Cal family, thank you for being the first to believe in my future. Thank you for the opportunity. I rolled the fuck out because we weren't going to get anything done there, guys. Let's compare the stats here. So, and mind you, they blew a lot of teams out so the stats weren't as important, okay? But like you've got, and he played one more game.

That's also important to note. Pavia played 12. Mendoza played 13 because they had the conference championship game. So Mendoza throws for nearly 3,000 fine. I mean, total yards, Pavia is it nearly or over 4,000 total yards? You're at like 3,200 with an extra game for Mendoza. Rushing touchdowns, more for Pavia, passing touchdowns. he's about six below yards per attempt they're exactly the same pavia led the SEC and passing touchdowns that's the SEC not the big 10 like i don't know man to me like and pavia literally carried that fucking team like he was the dude the face of it that's vanderbilt and i understand it's fascinating that these two dudes are from two of the most historically dreadful football programs ever but one of them is in the SEC and you look at the schedule that to me is the most important thing let's take a look and i get it i'm

breaking down the fucking Heisman that already happened. But let's look at Indiana football schedule. Let's see the teams that Indiana played on that schedule. And they got a bonus game that Pavia didn't get. But let's take a look at that Hoosiers football schedule. Old Dominion, Kennesaw State, Indiana State, Illinois, who's dog shit, Iowa, Oregon. And then after that, they didn't play a fucking soul after they played Oregon. They played Oregon October 11th.

Michigan State fired their coach. UCLA fired their coach. Maryland fired their coach. Penn State fired their coach. Wisconsin, I think Purdue fired their coach, and Ohio State. I mean, that dude's playing a who's who a dipshit. Of course, they were up 50 to nothing in those games. They were playing nobodies.

Then you go to the Vanderbilt football schedule, right? So let's take a look at the Vandy football schedule as you compare the two, right? Now, granted, he didn't win as many games, but that's part of it. I mean, by the way, they won 10 fucking games at Vanderbilt. Schedule, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, who turned out to be not that great. Bama's in the playoff. LSU, Missouri, Texas, Tennessee. And by the way, that's a road win at Tennessee that is a three-point road loss to Texas.

That is a road tight game against Bama. I don't know. I'm not trying to be an SEC honk homer guy here. But like the metrics are there. The statistics are there. Everything was in favor of Pavia and Pavey didn't win. What was the actual vote breakdown? Heisman Vote Breakdown.

Let's see. Heisman vote breakdown. Three points. Let's see. Take a look. Hold on. Let's listen to Pavia for, let's listen to Mendoza for a few more minutes here and then we'll take a look. Thank you for educating me, giving me the foundation that enabled me to grow into the person I am today. To go Signetti, Whitmer, Shanahan, Owens, and every single coach who has guided me along the way. You drove me to a level. I didn't even know I had inside of me. From the late-night film sessions. Yeah, I'm bored with it. No offense, this guy bores the shit out of me.

Like, Pavia, look, you don't give the Heisman to someone because they're more interesting, right? Like, you give the Heisman based on if you deserve it or not. My man, Pavia, far more interesting. This guy's boring as shit. All right, let's break it down. So Mendoza had 643 first place votes, and Pavia had 189. The fact that that was the disparity there is comical. Like, I understand that both of these guys are quarterbacks that went to notoriously.

bad programs and help make them something. But the fact that Pavia only got 189 first place votes, to me, when I say this is a bias, I believe that what you're dealing with here in terms of the bias is they just don't like Pavia, they don't like his attitude, they don't like his mom, and that has to be it. And they like the good old kind of white bread dupis in Mendoza. That has to be it. Because if you want to say that Mendoza should win the Hizman over Pavia, fine, give it to him. but I feel like a lot of it has to do with just the likeability factor,

and I think a lot of people don't like Pavia. They don't like his attitude. They don't like the look at me type of shit, whereas Mendoza didn't do any of that. Also, I don't think they watched this dude Mendoza play all that much at all because most of the games are 50 to nothing because they're playing a bunch of dipshits, so they didn't even see him, whereas Pavia is in a lot of games. Like, this dude was having a rally in a lot of games. The games were important down the stretch.

The guy made important plays. How many important plays did Fernando Mendoza have to make? go back and look at the number of games they played tell me how many games Indiana had to have a clutch drive at the end of the game I'd argue none when did they need big plays I guess you could argue that the Ohio State game and the Congress championship game they needed to make place and really that was just because an Ohio State did the job for you they turned the ball over on downs they miss field goals and that's that how many times did like that should be an

important factor in this how many times did for Nando Mendoza have to march down the field and win a game. Julian Sane never had to do it because they were kicking everybody's ass at Ohio State. So tell me how many, to me that should be a bigger factor. Because Pavia had to win and lose games for these guys. Indiana was up 50 in every game. But look at the Vanderbilt games. They had games.

You had to rally and beat Auburn, right? You had to go to overtime to beat Auburn. 17 to 10 win over Missouri. You're in a tight game against Texas. LSU game is tight I mean look you can view LSU as a shit team now and they were But defensively they were really fucking good this year You can shit on them because the offense was bad

LSU's defense was good That's why they felt it necessary to keep Blake Baker And pay him $3 million a year to not leave Because their defense was good And as good as LSU's defense was this year You know what Pavia did against them Threw for 161 And was able to run the ball for another 86

and made every big play. I know you could look at the stats and go, those aren't very impressive stats. Every big play, every big conversion, every third down that needed to become a first down, every fourth down that needed to become a first down, Pavia made the play. Those are what you have to look at. You know, South Carolina, they blew out fine. Auburn late in games, the guy made throws, made plays. You just compare that to Indiana, and there's nothing about Indiana schedule that does anything for me.

73 nothing against Indiana State beaten up on shitty Illinois who at the time was a top 10 team but Illinois ended up losing what six games like how many clutch crunch time drives did pot and he made the one I guess the one that stands out as he made the throw late when they were down to they were down to Penn State like that was the rally and that was kind of the moment there that he had to make a throw and he made a throw but most of their games were just blowouts. So, I don't know, to me, Pavia would be the Heisman over Mendoza. But I think a big factor in it is people don't like Pavia and his brothers are dickheads and his moms all over the internet being hot. And I just, I don't think that's the vibe they wanted it to reward. I don't. Because every metric would tell you that Pavia, I mean, stats are a huge factor in this, but you also look at where they're playing, what they've done for their programs. to me, every metric would tell you that Pavi is the guy, except that he's this dickhead fucking dude.

He's leaning like a cholo, and like they don't like that. Like, that has to be it. Like, I got a buddy of mine who's Mexican, right? Right? So he's a Mexican, Honduran, Honduran, right? So his mom is Honduran, his dad is Mexican. He's Honduran Mexican-American.

He's got two dudes in the Heisman race, two Hispanic dudes. And what has Mendoza? Is he Colombian, maybe Cuban? I forgot what Mendoza is. But, like, I'm talking with him. My dude is Mexican. Fucking hates Pavia. Was rooting for Mendoza.

I'm like, how the fuck you rooting for Mendoza? This dude, you're never going to, there's never going to be another Mexican dude that says it is when the Hizman. I mean, you have a better chance of fucking seeing him big foot than seeing a Mexican dude when the Hizman. And he's like, eh, I don't like him. He's an asshole. I'm like, what? Like, that's just, like, to me, that's the sign.

You want a sign that that's why Pavia lost? You're not likable. I like him. I kind of dig his vibe because I like that it's kind of an FU vibe until he apologized for his FU vibe that I didn't like. And I will enjoy watching him in the UFL or wherever the hell he plays. But anyway, more to come.