The Josh Innes Show - Prime Continues To Fight With Son's Critics

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Deion Sanders continues to clap back at his sons detractors. I would imagine Shedeur doesn't benefit by his dads constant chirping. What NFL team wants to deal with the drama? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, let's see this headline here. Most of it is laughable. That's a quote. Most of it is laughable. Deion Sanders addresses criticism of Sun Shadur. This is in the USA Today. It's written by Jared Bell. So let's see.

They feel like they'd be very pro-Deion at USA Today. I am not anti-Deion. I like Deion. Like most people, there are people that I enjoy at times and I dislike at times. And I think that's where people struggle. It's like, if you just like, we're in this weird world now, it's this weird world of politics, news sports, where you have to be 100% on board with everything that a person or an entity does. And if you're not, you're against them. So if you're some right wing guy, but you're like, you know, I like Trump's ideas on blank,

blank and blank. And, but really I just, I know, I like Trump's ideas on blank, blank and blank. And but really, I just I don't give a shit about abortion. You say that it's like, oh, we got a liberal. We got ourselves a dissenting liberal here, you know. And in the same way, I mean, the liberals are just as fucking bad about it. You can agree with most of their shit. But if you're like, hey, maybe the boys shouldn't play against the girls. Oh, we got a transphobe on our hands.

Like it's it's bullshit. we all know it's bullshit, but that's the way things operate now. So I like Dion. There are days I really like him, and then there are days I really think he's full of shit. I've watched both seasons, or three seasons, I guess, now of his reality show, once when he was at Jackson State, the others at Colorado.

Like, I can see why you'd be drawn in to Dion. Like, I get it. I understand it because I feel the same way. I like the guy, but I also think he can be full of shit. You know, you do this whole thing of selling the SWAC conference. Then, nope, I'm just going to jump to Colorado. You know, shit like that. Like, there's no problem with moving yourself up.

But, like, I think a lot of times people have to kind of almost not tear down but overly elevate where they are while they're there. And then it makes them look worse whenever they move on. Like, Dion just sold all this, you know, the HBCUs and shit. And then, like, guess it's time for me to go now. And I like, I don't dislike his son. I don't know that his son is going to be good or bad, but because it's Deion and because it's his kid, they are getting the most attention. Dude, Shadur may end up going on to be the best player in this draft

or might be an afterthought. You know, Cam Ward's going to go number one. Jackson Dart's going to go pretty high in this draft too so like you look at this and go like i like dion and i don't dislike his son but it's like they do a bunch of shit that they know is going to piss off a certain group of people and then when that certain group of people gets pissed off they use that as ammo and say see see people hate my son it's a political strategy right like it's the same type of thing you can do when um if you know what it's like it's like when on opening day and i don't know that they still do this anymore i guess they don't

because there are no cleveland indians they're just the cleveland guardians now but back on opening day when there'd be a group of people outside of the stadium doing the whole indian thing and mocking people for wearing ind Indian shit and saying it's offensive. All they're doing is waiting for one or two people to say something stupid so they can film that person doing one or two things or saying something stupid. They baited them into doing it so they can sell their point. It's bullshit and it's phony and we all know it. I think most people don't give a shit about any of this. But you look at Shitter Sanders,

there are going to be groups of people that are going to be annoyed by how flashy Shitter Sanders is, just like there were a bunch of people who were annoyed by how flashy Dion or how cocky Dion is. And I'm fine with being flashy, and I'm fine with being cocky.

But don't turn yourself into a victim when people are critical of it. That's why I turned on Angel Reese. I was fine with Angel Reese being that chick and showing off like the rings and all that shit to Caitlin Clark. But the second it became like, uh, the league's about me too, or people are sexualizing me or whatever, while she's sitting there in a, in a tiny bikini on the internet doing all this shit. She's like, people are sexualizing me. I'm like, you lost me. You lost me.

Like, that's just me. That's how I operate. Maybe you don't. Maybe other people do. That's how I operate. I don't go into things like just automatically disliking people. Except for Jelly Roll. I'm sick of seeing fucking Jelly Roll. Go away. I don't care that things like just automatically disliking people. Except for Jelly Roll. I'm sick of seeing fucking Jelly Roll.

Go away. I don't care that you've lost 200 pounds. I don't care about your shitty songs. Everywhere I turn, there's Jelly Roll. Really, I don't even think your songs are bad. I'm just so fucking sick of seeing you that I hate your music out of spite. I spite hate your music. I only talk to God when I need a favor.

Like, Jelly Roll shows up everywhere. It's okay to say no, dude. Like, it's okay to be like, I think I'm going to pass on this one. It's like, do you want to come to my son's bar mitzvah? I'll be there, bro. You know, little Abraham over here is becoming a man and here comes jelly roll i only talk to god when i need a favor like what are we doing but anyway sorry jelly roll you caught a stray there this isn't about you but i'm annoyed by you i'm tired of seeing your fucking face but that's what i hate is when people who do things that they know are going to be divisive. And then when it gets the opposite reaction, they turn into victims or they make the other people the bad guy. That annoys me. And I think that Dion does that very well.

I don't even know that his kid does that. Like, because his kid's actually kind of quiet. It's kind of like, you know what feels weird? And I might be totally wrong on this. It's like I almost feel like his kid doesn't want to be this larger-than-life character because if you see him, he's quiet. If you watch him on these reality shows, he stares at the ground a lot, and he's just kind of quiet, and he's not over the top.

Then he gets on the field and gets in front of the crowd and gets going a little bit and has a little bit of attitude. But it's almost like he's doing it because he has to. Not that his dad's forcing him to like I don't think Deion Simpson's decision does like listen here you little shit here's what you're gonna do but I think he feels that kind of pressure maybe maybe again I don't know this is my 1 million miles away breakdown of it that's the vibe I get because when I watch him on these shows he just seems kind of like a quiet, kind of chill dude.

And there are people like that, that are quiet, chill dudes, and you get them on the court. Like, you wouldn't know that Larry Bird was basically throwing out racial slurs at people all the time on the court and talking mad shit. Best trash talker fucking ever. Larry Bird, you wouldn't know that when you just see Larry Bird being country boy from French Lick, ain't saying much, you know? So people are different on the field, obviously, than they are off the field. But I'm just, it's an interesting thing the way, I question how much he truly wants to be like Shadur Sanders, Deion Sanders kid, and how much he just wants to be chill. That I don't know.

Anywho, that's why I get annoyed with them. Mostly Deion, people like that who do things that they know we're going to have a split audience, Anywho, that's why I get annoyed with them. Mostly Dion. People like that who do things that they know are going to have a split audience. And then when the audience is split, you play victim. I'm not a fan of that. I've been there before. I've done that before. I get how it works.

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the draft. The Colorado quarterback was once considered a possibility to be chosen number one overall when the draft kicks off Thursday night at Lambeau Field in Green Bay. Now, if so many of the draft pundits are to be believed, Schroeder's standing in recent weeks has supposedly tumbled like Tesla stock. At least the narrative fueling draft hype, Schroeder's talent, mechanics, arm strength, and character have all been criticized during the ramp up to the draft, often but not always by nameless, faceless sources. Here's the thing though, Jared Bell, fella writing this story, doesn't that happen to a lot of people in the draft? Isn't that the point of the draft?

And by the way, these are multi-billion dollar organizations that don't want to fuck shit up, and they're going to go out and they're going to find whatever dirt they can on anybody, especially at the quarterback position, and make sure they're doing it right. I'm sure we're on the verge of this becoming a racial story very soon. So if you are triggered by such things, then maybe time to turn off. But I feel pretty confident this story is going to go down some sort of racial path, but we shall see. If I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong.

Baby's dad, dirty dancing. Sure, Shadur tended to hold onto the ball too long behind a shaky protection, yet his production, toughness, and resilience can't be knocked. Okay, that's fine. There's a lot of guys like that. In some extreme cases, though, the shots have been brutal. Of course, even the connection to his college coach and Hall of Fame father has been cast in some cases as a detriment.

It's silly to us Dion told USA Today most of it is laughable what I told him to his son what I've learned in my life is when it don't make sense it's God because some of this stuff is so stupid it don't make sense that means God is closing doors and opening doors to make sure you get where you're supposed to go I'm fine with that messaging I'd also like this story to include some of these, like, and I think what happens a lot is one criticism becomes a thousand or like it's criticisms from people who don't matter, like social media, and that becomes the straw man or straw persons. And people just build off of that. And some people need that to create their story.

Some people need that to create hype. Some people need to do that to get themselves motivated. So I understand that. But I question how many of these hardcore criticisms are coming of Shadur Sanders. Let me see. Where did my Shadur Sanders story go? Come back, Shadur. It went away uh i lost my story but anyway uh let me scroll back down and see if i can there we go deon sanders most of it's laughable sorry my computer screwed up and i lost my story all right sure every draft comes with negativity and smear campaigns correct no that doesn't make it right and deon doesn't buy buy it. Some suggest the 23-year-old Chidur, who passed for 4,134 yards with 37 TDs and led the nation with a 74% completion last season, won't even be a first-round pick.

Now, that's laughable. Thank you, Jared Bell. Well, here's what I also like, is when people find a guy they like and they feel like they're being shit on, like unfairly, they'll bring up their statistics. It's kind of what they did with Michael Sam. Now, this isn't apples to apples, of course, but everybody who was like, Michael Sam ain't getting drafted because he's gay. Look at his numbers. Well, then why didn't he play? You know what I'm saying? He was the SEC

defensive player of the year. Well, Chad Lavallee, I think think won NFL or the SEC defensive player of the year one year and I don't recall him in the NFL so shit happens this is venomous Dion contended it's to the point where I ain't it ain't even cute no more it's so predictable I'm flipping the channel today listening Jackson Dart is special Shadur Sanders ain't y'all come on stop why you got a shit on Jackson Dart well obviously he's politicking for his kid here, which I get. I understand. But what if your son isn't? Like what if your son goes to the – here's also what we're doing. We're building a narrative here.

The narrative then becomes if his kid goes and fails, it's because they wanted him to fail and didn't give him the opportunity. That's the kind of bullshit that we see in sports now is nobody ever fails. It's they're just not given the ample opportunity to succeed, right? And most of the time it's they didn't get the opportunity to succeed because of a racial thing or something else. That's usually what these stories become, right? We'll ignore that, hey, Lamar Jackson is doing this and Rusty Wilson did that and Jalen Hurts is doing this and all this shit. And we go and we circle the people who don't make it and we say they didn't make it, but they weren't really given an opportunity and they weren't given an opportunity

because the league still mistreats black quarterbacks or whatever. I'm not saying that white dudes may not get opportunity. I guess the way I'd look at this is, and this is just the way I think this whole thing plays out, is we're creating a world where we're not allowing people to fail. We're always creating some other reason that they didn't, and usually it has nothing to do with them. I've had situations I've been in where I think they were failing situations and I feel like the other party had a lot to do with it right but I also can acknowledge my own shortcomings and shit that I have fucked up like here in St. Louis I feel like they made a mistake hiring me and this whole situation was a mistake but I probably could have just sat back and talked up the records and gone

about my day and it wouldn't have been as controversial and I look I was getting fired one way or the other they paid me this is a horrible situation where they paid me way too much money expecting me to do some kind of morning show in the afternoon that thing backfired this thing was just a disaster but like the one I'll go to more frequently is like 790 in Houston where I think they I I believe it was a poorly run situation but if I would have done a couple of different things like look at if I don't go in there day one shit on the guy I replaced but like my brain didn't work that way when I went in my brain didn't go into well these guys all worked with this guy and I'm shitting on their friend I'm looking at it from the standpoint of I competed against this guy at

the other radio station I'm shitting on my competitor again those are things that are mistakes and that like basically drove the stake into me instantly right there that I should have never done and there were other things but like I can say that there's two ways I think we get into a lot of worlds where guys fail and then what happens is we blame everything else around them for their failure and we basically go into it giving them a built-in excuse for why they failed and I think like a guy like Shadur is going to have that. If he succeeds, he overcame everything. And if he fails, well, he was going to fail anyway because they were trying to screw him. Daddy Prime is hardly the first father to fiercely defend his sons,

which also includes Shiloh, the Colorado safety who is projected to go undrafted. He's the rare father, though, with an overpowering presence built on his NFL excellence and an electric persona that remains decades since his heyday. A flair then and now has drawn its share of detractors. Dion thinks that's a factor about now. Quote, it's like just because they come from me, people take unsolicited shots at them. And that's not fair. Well, to be fair, no one solicits a shot. No one's like, Hey, please take it. Hey, take a shot at me, please. Uh, just say you don't like me. Just say you're tired of me winning. You're tired of me being the light, tired of me being up, just consistently provoking change

wherever I go. Just say that, but don't attack my kids. And that's where it gets kind of annoying. See, what you've done now is you're aiding in them doing this, like that you're tired of me. Like you want your kid to kind of stand on his own, but you're not allowing your kid to stand on his own because you're saying that all the criticism he's getting is not because of anything he's done. It's because of you. And I'm not saying that part of that isn't true, but there are other factors. Like if people want to be critical of your kid for not winning a ton of football games, that's okay. If people want to be critical of the games, they like you throw out statistics, right? People love to throw out stats.

What were those stats and how were they compiled in games that they were down by a billion? That year that they were, the first year in Colorado, I want to say I live bet Shador Sanders throwing for 425 yards or something in one game. And he ended up doing it in a game they lost by, like, 20 or something. Like, stats don't really mean shit. And really, wins and losses don't really mean shit in college either. I don't know if the guy's going to be any good or not, but you can't turn every criticism of your son into, everyone hates me because I'm his daddy and judge my kid based on whatever. case that ruffled daddy prime's feathers uh come out of the nfl one case that ruffled dad that was this supposed to say came because if not i feel like we're speaking like an old old like country hick dialect one case that ruffled daddy prime's feathers come out of the nfl scouting combine in february i believe that was supposed to say came out of i'm not sure but

one case that ruffled daddy prime's feathers come out of the NFL scouting combine in late February and early March veteran NFL reporter Josina Anderson reported that the quarterback's coach from one team with one of the top seven picks in the draft maintained that came off as brash and arrogant during the interview with the team the brother who lied and said that I know what team he's from Sanders reflected so I called the head coach I said dog come on man this is what we're doing like I think you're hurting your kid because I get it's a different world because you're the coach and you I get that that's so a head coach would probably like call on behalf of a player and be like this

is wrong you understand though that because it's your kid and everywhere your kid has played is because you went there you understand that when you pick up the phone and you call and you're like why are you talking shit about my kid basically it's like that doesn't help your kid it doesn't help your kid in a situation like this where like what's going to happen if you if your kid's not playing right so let's say your kid is not playing right so let's say your kid is not the quarterback he's binged behind someone and they're struggling are you like are you going to call them and call the coach and be like play my kid are you going to go into a press

conference and say play my kid like what are you going to do like I would imagine like I don't think that's helping the cause especially because Shadur doesn't seem to be an otherworldly talent that's a can't miss dude that everybody's like oh my god we gotta have Shadur doesn't seem to be an otherworldly talent that's a can't-miss dude that everybody's like, oh my god, we gotta have Shadur Sanders. Like, if it were, you know, Peyton Manning or somebody like that, then I think they'd look at it differently, or Mike Vick, they'd look at it differently. But in this case, it's like he's already kind of questionable. Like, do you want to be the head coach of the Giants and, like, you know, the team's struggling, you get a fucking call from Deion Sanders Sanders or have Deion at a Colorado press conference wondering why his fucking kid ain't playing at the Giants he said that never happened

I was in the meeting I ran the interview should her neighbor and never came off like that that's not true Deion said okay Deion said that in assuring the coach he wouldn't blow the story up he added but check your staff man of course he blew the story up, he added, but check your staff, man. Of course, he blew the story up. It should also be noted that during his media session at the Combine, Choudeur was quite the contrast to the brash and arrogant description. While he expressed confidence that he can be a difference maker for a team on the NFL level, he was cordial, respectful, witty, classy, thoughtful, and responded to a barrage of questions for 15 minutes. The scrutiny of Choudeur reminds his father of the debate

and knocks surrounding another quarterback, Lamar Jackson. We see some bull junk every year, but Lamar was probably the most recent. Jackson, ultimately chosen in 2018 as the final pick of the first round and the fifth quarterback selected, was cast by some as a player who needed to switch to receiver.

Well, of course, what we're looking at now is now you're comparing your son to Lamar Jackson. So I don't think that the politicking is helping because these teams are not going to draft your kid based on what you say. So all you're really doing is paving the way for if a team takes your son or a team doesn't take your son, but let's assume one does. One takes your son and there's all this shit you're talking about the team that takes him, which you probably will do. And he's not playing. And you start talking shit about the other shit about the organization.

They don't want to deal with that. Now you've got him being compared to a two-time MVP in the league. Like, I don't think Deion's helping his kid very much. That's fine, is what it is. I'll scroll through some of this story. I don't know. I mean, I see the point of this story. Let's see.

I mean, that's too many quotes from Deion to read. You know, whatever. You know, it's fine. I get that you want to defend your son. I get that, um, you know, that, that you're using every angle you can to defend your son. I respect it. My dad would do the same thing. The number of times I'm on the phone with my dad and he's like, Josh, you want me to call the, I'm like, no, like I've thought about it multiple times. Cause I'm like, I guess nobody could sell me better than my dad. But then I realize it's probably going to look bad if my dad calls this job.

I'm like, hey, would you consider hiring my son? Let me tell you how great he is. So I always say no. But yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's helping him. But it's also an unwinnable situation to a degree too. Like is it hurt? I guess the problem I would have is i think to a

degree what he's saying is hurting him versus help i don't know if there's anything dion can do to help him like i don't know if d like because if a guy picks up the phone with the giants it's like hey it's prime and you know my kids i don't know that that helps i don't know that anything helps is the problem that you'd run into with this but um there's gonna be a lot of drama surrounding this dude wherever he goes. And when there's drama, Dion's always going to blame the drama on everybody else, and he's not going to look at himself

because he's got God on his side or whatever other shit he's going to say. But anyway, more to come.