The Josh Innes Show - Random Diatribe About True Crime

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

I don't know how I ended up going down this path, but I have thoughts about true crime. Why do white people enjoy it so much? Do other racial groups enjoy true crime? Should the Menendez Brothers be set free? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is considered to be news is fascinating to me like this headline reads Beyonce heads to Chicago Soldier Field parking bags and what to know so thank you USA Today for having a headline and by the way this is not just buried somewhere on their entertainment section it is the lead story the dynamic lead on their page for entertainment Beyonce heads to Chicago Soldier Field parking bags. What to know? So thank you for making your main story on your site a story that appeals to about 50,000 people in Chicago. Brilliant, brilliant work by you USA Today. As I say all the time when I

make fun of these news outlets and and the headlines they use and the tweets they put out and all their social media, maybe I'm the one that's just totally fucking lost. Maybe I'm like way behind the times. I don't know. Maybe nobody click on any of this shit anyway, so they're trying to float that out there so they can is, Beyonce heads to Chicago Soldier Field parking bags and what to know, like who the fuck cares unless you're in Chicago going to this show? Another headline, going to see Beyonce in Chicago? Look out for these tour traditions. You're talking to the smallest amount of people possible. I'm amused by it is all. I know what you're saying, Josh. All you do is read USA Today and rant about USA Today. Well, when USA Today stops sucking, then I will stop

ranting and making fun of USA Today. But USA Today sucks and it's fun to make fun of it. And I'm just trying to understand it really. It's not even me making fun of this. I'd like to talk to the people in charge and I'd like to go, so what is the reason that this is your main thing? Now granted this is just the entertainment section. This isn't, I don't think the main page. Let me click US and see if Beyonce is on the main page as well. No, we've just got wildfires and people being held hostage and shit like that. Or the Elks rare genetic trait creates a unique coat. So you know that's the main shit. Beyoncé is not the main shit. And of course the

Menendez brothers are eligible for parole. What we know about the case. Well here's what I know about the case. They fucking killed their parents but they were good-looking so dumb women are like, let them out of jail. They might have been diddled. They may have been diddled. They killed their parents. Who cares? Those are grown ass men killing their parents and we're like, let them out. They're harmless. There, I've let you know about the Menendez Brothers case. Again, I'm kind of a hypocrite because I watched the Gypsy Rose program and she and some guy killed her mom, but her mom was a real sack of shit that like lied about her having cancer and forced her to get like procedures done so they can get

a free house. Like that was fucked up. Not saying that the shit with the Menendez Brothers isn't all so fucked up, but who's to say any of the shit with the Menendez Brothers is true? I don't know what's true and what's not. I'm more annoyed by the Menendez Brothers thing because it just shows you like, one of my main things I like to talk about often is you know women can be stupid too. Like the whole narrative in the world is men are dumb. Like every time you watch a sitcom it's a dumb man right? It's hey King of Queens there's Doug Heffernan that big dumbo for Everybody Loves Raymond or whatever show. It's always men are dumb and women are brilliant. Well if women are so brilliant then why are there so many dumb women

that want to marry psychos and murderers and guys on death row? There are just as many dumb women as there are dumb men because there's so many dumb people out there and there's so many horned out dumb women that look at the Menendez brothers and they're like bless their hearts. You know they were treated like shit by their parents. Yeah, then they went in and blew them away. They blew them away. I couldn't even finish watching the damn Menendez brothers, the one that was on Netflix. Let me play a couple commercials and then we'll continue. I had something else, but who knows? I might go down a wormhole here. So I couldn't even get through the Menendez Brothers dramatization on Netflix because it was just weird. It was strange

and then there was like a weird like kind of like homoerotic incestual kind of vibe between the brothers in the show and like it was just very strange and I couldn't get through it. I'm like I'm not enjoying this. This is very weird. The show is strange and I'm all about watching true crime and watching, you know, like I like you see some weird shit. Like I just started a true crime documentary on Netflix something called like an American murder or something like that.

It's like an hour and a half and I've gotten through about 30 minutes of it last night with Jilly, we'll finish it today. I'm all about watching a good old fashioned true crime. Because as a white guy, that's kind of what I do. That's a white people thing. Just like old white dudes of a certain generation are obsessed with Pete Rose,

which we'll get to that in a little bit. But Pete Rose, there's also a generation of white people who just love true crime and that generation is every generation of white people. Like I like I know that like black folks are into gossip and shit like and you know like spilling the tea and you know shit finding out what's going on with Diddy and R. Kelly and shit. But I don't know if black folks are into true crime. Like, you know, guy goes into the house and murders the whole family type shit. I'm not, I'm saying that because I honestly don't know,

right? As a white dude, I feel comfortable saying that white people have a strange infatuation with true crime for whatever reason. We love that shit. And I don't know how far back this dates. Maybe like Unsolved Mysteries was kind of the OG true crime show. Like I don't know what came before that, but you'd have that and you'd have like the shitty

little reenactments on Unsolved Mysteries. Then you'd have classics like remember Rescue 911. Now that wasn't a true crime show, but I used to watch the shit out of Rescue 911 like the shitty little reenactments like like, you know, little Timmy was at home alone and accidentally lit a match by the fucking gas can in the house blew up and like there's Bill Shatner, but like I know him William Shatner and it's like fucking on. You know, that's the show and I would watch the

shit out of that. Then there was the America's Most Wanted. Now America's Most Wanted always bothered me because I felt weird that this guy became famous and presumably wealthy off the fact that his kid got abducted at the Sears or JCPenney or wherever it was. Thus we have a Code Adam but missing child in the store Code Adam, Adam Walsh. I also watched a documentary about that not too long ago either and who you know there's like some of these ones that are never going to

be solved so here's a lesson there are certain true crimes that you should never watch the documentary about because you already know they're not going to find the person and you will watch this for four hours and at the end of it hate everybody and just hate yourself mostly right hours and at the end of it hate everybody and just hate yourself mostly right. So ultimate examples of this. Number one, DB Cooper. Never watch anything about DB Cooper. I got myself invested in this four part DB Cooper situation, documentary a couple years ago, and I'll spoil it for you. At the end, the guy thought some guy was DB Cooper, but there's no proof this guy was DB Cooper so we still have no fucking clue who DB Cooper is I assume he's dead because it's pretty remarkable if that guy would have survived all that

nobody would have found him but DB Cooper never watched DB Cooper documentaries number two never watched documentaries about the zodiac they don't fucking know who the zodiac is all these't fucking know who the Zodiac is. All these documentaries, the Zodiac, the truth, blah, blah, blah, and you'll turn on Peacock, Zodiac, and you're like, shit, I'm gonna get sucked into this shit again, because I've got to know who the Zodiac is. And let me tell you something, kids, you're never gonna find out who the Zodiac is, because they're never gonna find who the Zododiac is because they don't fucking know. Unless there's a news story that comes out and says the identity of the

Zodiac revealed, don't click on it because no one knows who that son of a bitch is. Number three, John Benet Ramsey. Don't watch John Benet Ramsey documentaries. It's just weird, uncomfortable child predator shit and then no one knows who actually killed John Benet Ramsey. It's just depressing and terrible, and then you're like, why do the parents, like, then you, like, question shit, like, why do parents have their kids all dolled up and in these fucking, like, pageants making them look like little debutantes and shit? Like, why do you even do that and make your kid a target? So then you get mad at the parents, and then you're like, do they have something have something to do with it the little kid the brother? What was that kid's name? I forgot was it Brock or some shit. Did he kill them? I don't know and then it's like well

What about this guy and this guy and did the same guy that killed him also kill that I'm like there I'm out If you're gonna watch a documentary about something at least watch a documentary about something that's already been solved So you can just kind of see how the whole thing was solved. Like we know who the Night Stalker is. That's Richard Ramirez. The documentary about the Night Stalker was fascinating and there's a resolution at the end in that we know who the Night Stalker fucking is.

We know who the son of Sam is. That's what's his name? What the fuck's the name of the son of Sam? David Berkowitz. Like we know, by the way, the fact I couldn't tell you who played sports games last night, but I can tell you all of these serial killers makes my point, which is initially white people have a strange infatuation with true crime. It's fascinating. We just love this shit, and I don't know why we love this shit so much, but we do. I've never spoken with like a Mexican friend of mine who's like, hey man,

he's like, hey man, what do you think about what do you think about John Benet, man? I'm like, I'm sorry, most of my Mexican friends do not sound like Cheech, but I just saw the Cheech and Chong documentary, which was great a couple weeks ago. So no offense, I love all my Hispanic brethren. One of my best friends is Honduran slash Mexican slash American, he's a Honduran Mexican American. And like, you know, that's the voice I'm doing. I had to differentiate, but I've never had like a Mexican friend do that to me.

Like, hey man, what do you think about the night? Hey bro, what do you think about the Zodiac, man? I'm like, no Mexican friend of mine has ever said that to me. But like, I'll be, I told you this one time, I was at a party. Guy had never met before. I was at this party, it was like a bridal shower or some shit. And this guy was all into conspiracy theories. I've told you guys this before. And he would, and like, there's, there's like conspiracy theories

that are fun to talk about. Like, hey, did they fake the moon landing or you know all the Hollywood urban legends like hey do you think that that in the air tonight was really about Phil Collins watching his you know buddy drown in the sky wouldn't help ha ha ha you know that type of shit like hey is there really a dwarf hanging in the background and the Wizard of Oz that's interesting but like this guy was going all like Sandy

Hook and deep 9-eleven shit we're the fuckingal shower. Fucking like Bruno Mars playing over the fucking speakers and shit. It's nothing but old people walking around for a bridal shower. And I'm just trying to get drunk and have a good time. And this guy's just like going deep into it like Sandy Hook was an inside job. It was like I encountered the fucking Infowars. Infowars was happening while I was at this bridal shower, right? But that's a white people thing. Like you never hear that shit from anybody else. So I don't know if non-white people love this shit the way white people do, but white people love true crime.

But particularly not white collar crime. Like my wife wouldn't sit down and watch fucking Enron shit. She's like, who gives a fuck? It's white collar, fucking decim wife wouldn't sit down and watch fucking in Ron shit. She's like, who gives a fuck? It's white collar fucking decimals and shaving a penny here penny there. Now you're a billionaire who gives a fuck. But if you tell my wife that like, you know, some guy broke into the house or like some guy's wife is dead and they think he might

have done like Lacey fucking Peterson, by the way, Drew Peterson killed that woman. I don't care what the documentaries try to make you believe that man killed that fucking woman. But I've never heard, like the only reason a black person would care about Lacey Peterson is in the vein of, oh, y'all care about this bitch because she's white? Like that's all that would be. That was literally all that would be. But we white people love that fucking true crime, man. We just drink it up. All that said, I did watch a solid documentary. I'm in the middle of it. It's pretty good.

I'm watching it on Netflix. Jilly wants to watch this documentary about the tornadoes in Joplin, Missouri and like that feels too depressing. I just like it's like this is going to sound so fucked up, but like the guy goes into the house and murders ten people. Like that's not as depressing to me as these poor people losing their fucking house due to a natural disaster. I don't know why I feel this way. I know it sounds fucked up. I know it's no good but like if a guy goes in and like I'm watching this one

now and like this dude was killed like okay this is a dude he's dead who cares but like if these poor people like they're displaced from their homes and like their family dog gets sucked up into a twister I'm like fuck I can't watch this're displaced from their homes and like their family dog gets sucked up into a twister I'm like fuck. I can't watch this shit. That's too sad and too depressing There's an oklahoma city bombing one too, and that's also kind of depressing. I don't know. I don't know I can handle the dudes like hey, this guy's an axe murderer I struggle with the ones like the bombing and you know garth brooks had a song called the change

and the music video was all about like with highlights and like news clippings of the bombing in Oklahoma City. And like I remember watching that and just fucking sobbing over this when I was a kid. So maybe it just hits me different. How did I go down this path? I never know how I get there. Like I truly had no intentions of talking about this shit. Somehow it became a Menendez Brothers discussion, which by the way, they shouldn't get out of fucking jail. And there, I guess we'll move on to some other stuff.