The Josh Innes Show - Random Thoughts: Jerry Jones

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

In 1957, young Jerry Jones was standing by while a racial protest took place at Little Rock Central High School. Well, 65 years later a picture of this has surfaced and Jerry is being hammered for it.... It's absurd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 issues for about two weeks. I was just trying to kind of take a break from it and make sure I don't end up all messed up. So basically, here's what it comes down to. A picture has surfaced, like the Washington Post found a picture of the Little Rock Nine. They were the group of students who were attempting to desegregate Little Rock Central High School, which is actually a very impressive structure. I think the one time I was in Little Rock, I drove through Little Rock, I think I saw the school, and it's really an impressive, awesome structure. It's just a classic retro building, and it's obviously a historical landmark and everything else. But it's very cool. I love old schools like that, like gorgeous, giant school buildings.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Now schools don't look like this. They're not beautiful buildings, but that is a beautiful building. Same thing with – there were a bunch of those randomly in Poplar Bluff, Missouri. They were old school buildings when I grew up there for the time I lived there. And I went to school in an old-ass three-story school that had no elevators. You had to take the stairs. I was on crutches for half of the year that I was there. It was a nightmare, but I loved those.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Baton Rouge has Baton Rouge High school downtown, an amazing looking building. Like these buildings are incredible. Schools used to be gorgeous. But anyway, so the reason this is back in the news is because there was a picture that was unearthed of Jerry Jones standing at the doorway of this school. And the way it's being spun is Jerry Jones is standing in the doorway trying to block these students from going into the school. He was part of a pro-segregation movement that was standing outside of the school trying to block these black students from getting in. Now, if you look at the damn picture, and he's explained the situation, he's explained to people that he was there, he was just curious, he was seeing what
Starting point is 00:02:30 was going on, he wasn't trying to block anybody, all that. But the picture is fascinating because it's almost like Jerry Jones was real life Forrest Gump in this picture. Now, Gump would have been in Alabama, of course, and was at the Alabama and, ma'am, you dropped your book and all that. But the picture is the most Gump picture ever. It's Jerry Jones and a crowd of white people. There's some angrier-looking white people at the front trying to block these black students from going into the school
Starting point is 00:03:01 and kind of off in the background, not like in the forefront. They had to point him out, circle him, and say, hey, here's Jerry Jones, young 17, 16-year-old Jerry Jones, or however old he was, standing there watching these black students try to get in. Truly, when you look at the picture, sometimes a picture will tell you one thing, like that famous picture in Boston where the black man is getting just jabbed in the stomach with a flagpole that has an American flag
Starting point is 00:03:30 on it. There is no positive turn in that one, right? There's no way you look at that and go, oh, I don't think this guy meant anything by it. He was jabbing the end of a flagpole into a black dude's stomach. There was no positive in that. There are certain pictures. Like when I was in Memphis that time and there was a Klan rally next door. Like I was not meaning to attend a Klan rally. I was in my hotel. I turn on the TV that morning.
Starting point is 00:03:56 They say, well, there's a Klan rally going on in downtown Memphis. I look out my window and sure as hell, there was the Klan rally next door to our hotel. There were four people at the Klan rally. But by association, when people started hearing, because the news will make a big story out of it across the country, it was Memphis, downtown, there's a Klan rally. What year is this? And there were people in the early days of Twitter tweeting me saying, oh, wouldn't you know it, Josh Ennis is in Memphis for the Klan rally. Like, okay. All right, if you're ready to win some real cash during the basketball playoffs, you got to check out Pick 6 from DraftKings.
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Starting point is 00:06:36 With us? They do? You know, when raccoons get on our porch, mom just sweep them over the broom. You know, like that's the vibe i got from him that's the the jerry jones little rock central high school teenage doof kid standing around like hey what's going on here guys i don't understand what are we seeing here what do we got here hey guys what's up what's up what's up that's what i got from that but it's become this big story i was just watching and here's what i love like cnn and all these outlets are interviewing some of these people who were the black students trying to get in.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And they're trying so hard to make this a big modern-day racial issue. And it's just not. I'd argue it's not even fucking news. What comes of this? Let's say that Jerry Jones, 15, 16, 17-year-old, however old he was, Jerry Jones is standing there watching these black people try to get in. What happens today? Does he lose his football team for that? Does he lose his businesses because he was a teenage kid that was curious
Starting point is 00:07:38 about what the hell was going on at this rally? Is that what happens? Like, what is the end game with this? Like if you're CNN and they've got one of these people who was a, you know, a teenager trying to get into this school, it was part of the little rock nine. If you're like,
Starting point is 00:07:54 and they multiple outlets interviewed these people and both of them were like, I mean, what are you going to do? What's the point? Like they almost looked at Don Lemon. Like, why am I here?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Why are you entering interviewing me about here? Why are you interviewing me about this? Why are you entering me? I did not mean that, Don. That's not what I meant. But why are you interviewing me? Why is this happening? Like why is this an important thing? Something that happened 60 some odd years ago does not impact the life of Jerry Jones now. And now, again, if you've got a picture of Jerry Jones, and Jerry Jones, he's got his
Starting point is 00:08:31 Klan hood on and his robe on, his robes and his bed sheets, and he's riding around like a bunch of ghosts or spooks or something, and he's riding around like Nathan Bedford Forrest, everything comes back to Forrest Gump. If he's riding around like that, then that's one thing. You go, maybe there's something controversial here. If Jerry Jones had attended this rally in blackface and was dressed in like African dashikis and had blackface on and was making monkey sounds or something, then you'd go, okay, there's something here. There is literally nothing there. Essentially what they're doing there is saying that, well, if you were a student at Columbine, you kind of were guilty of shooting
Starting point is 00:09:11 people because you happen to be next to the people who were shooting them. That's essentially what you're saying. If you are someone who was in the same room as those Columbine kids shooting the other kids, well, you're kind of guilty because you were there. You're literally making this guy guilty for being in attendance at a school. What is he going to be? He's a student at a school. You've literally made a kid at that era guilty because of the fact he was there and he was white and it was the 60s and there were a group of protesters saying they didn't want these kids in their school. Congratulations, you're fucking morons. You're fucking race baiting dipshit morons is all you are. Jerry Jones got his flaws. He said, what's 80 something year old white dude. Do I think he
Starting point is 00:09:55 said the greatest thoughts always? Probably not. But that's another thing. Like why, like at what point are you forgiven for stuff you did when you were in high school? Now, again, if this guy were truly a racist monster that was doing everything he could to keep these guys out, there'd be one thing. But we're talking about the 1950s, 1957. People had different mindsets back then. Yet we punish people for that. You know, like the sensibilities of people were different. It doesn't make them right,
Starting point is 00:10:28 but they were different. People viewed things differently, things that we couldn't fathom because a lot of us grew up in a different era where that wasn't the case. Like that was a different world. It's baffling that that was the world only 60-something years ago where black people were considered
Starting point is 00:10:43 inferior to anybody else or Asian people or Mexican people, whatever, were considered inferior humans. But the reality is there were some that did that and viewed them that way. And they didn't have the same rights and opportunities as white people. It's fascinating and wild that that was only 60-something years ago. That said, what we're talking about here is a high school kid standing in a group of people, even kind of has that look, like if you notice the still they have, he's just kind of like looking over people saying, hey, what's going on here? Wouldn't you be curious? If you heard that there was a big rally going on on the campus of your school or at your place of business, if you heard that there was a big rally going on on the campus of your school or at your place of business,
Starting point is 00:11:25 if you heard that there was going to be some big race rally or something based on sex or gender, like you'd kind of just stand around and go, well, what the hell is going to happen here? I'm kind of curious. Why wouldn't you be? The fact that they've tried to turn this into a huge thing, like I have a guy I know that's a radio guy in Dallas, and somebody asked him why the hell they're talking about this, and he said it's a huge story. But why is it a huge story? Like, I'm not trying to be coy here, try to be, you know, or play an angle here, but why is this?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Like, you see the picture, you go, oh, wow, Jerry Jones, like, you can piece it all together. It's not like he made a special effort to attend something that wasn't at his school. It wasn't like, well, we got a group of the young KKK together and we went out to a cross burning off in the woods. It was at a school. It was supposed to be there. The fact that I've dedicated 10 minutes to this blows my mind. The fact that I have to look for logic in this blows my mind. The fact that I'm sitting there trying to explain how this is such a non-story is almost disheartening. The fact that I googled Jerry Jones and what pops up is stories where Don
Starting point is 00:12:33 Lemon is interviewing people that are 65 years removed from black folks trying to get into this school. The fact that they're digging these people out of mothballs and forcing them to talk about Jerry Jones, I'm sure they've had bigger issues in their life than debating whether or not a 17-year-old, 16-year-old kid on the campus of a high school was that part of this rally. And by the way, high school kids are stupid. They're followers. They do dumb things. Just look at the internet now. That's why kids eat Tide Pods and drink Drano. They're stupid. They follow people.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They're not leaders. They're followers. Everyone's a follower. So imagine you're on campus. You're a young guy. You're impressionable. You see your buddies that are going to this. You go to it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It doesn't make it right, but it doesn't make it some federal case that needs to be broken down on the 10 o'clock news. It's fucking absurd. People are dumb. But for whatever reason, we've got a group of people that want to forgive all the crimes of a certain group of people. They say, well, they were only teens. They shouldn't be punished like that. They made their mistakes. They sold pot. They did this. And I'm fine with that. But yet we don't forgive people who are teenagers that quote rap lyrics or teenagers that say dumb stuff on social media, stuff that happened 10, 15 years ago, world's a different place, how do we pick and choose who we forgive? Well, I know how we do that.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's who you vote for and what race you are. That's how we pick and choose who the public will forgive. Jerry Jones, I'm guessing, is a Republican. He's an old white guy, rich as shit. So we don't forgive Jerry Jones. We make a federal case out of it because it's easy to make a federal case out of old white people because everybody's doing everything they can to disregard and dismiss old white people. So it's easy to just say, hey, this guy was probably a racist
Starting point is 00:14:15 standing there, part of this. We need to have a bigger discussion about what this means for race in the NFL. It doesn't mean dick. It means nada, zippo, zilch. It's a non-factor. It's a fucking teenage kid at his high school in the 1950s. It means nothing. People try to make it a big deal because it's sexy. Oh, Jerry Jones was part of a boycott for integration. Stupid is all it is. Very Forrest Gump, though. You can't dismiss that. A super Forrest Gumpian vibe. It's really great. Ma'am, you dropped your book.

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