The Josh Innes Show - Rest In Power Minute Maid Park
Episode Date: November 18, 2024Minute Maid Park is no more. Houstonians will now spend ridiculous amounts of money for beer and sodie pop at Daikin Park. Some fans are irrationally angry over this. It really doesn't matter. It's no...t like the name has any significance for Houston. It's just money. I take a ballpark name quiz. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's about noon-ish on Monday. Fresh and ready to go after drinking a lot of beer and betting on a
lot of games and passing out on the couch and coming to bed at like 4.30 in the morning.
It is now the second time in, I guess,
two or three weeks that I've had a full alcoholic beverage sitting next to me when I fell asleep on
the couch. I did finish it when I woke up. I wasn't going to waste it. And here we are, ready to go.
It's Monday. So people in Houston are outraged today because Minute Maid Park no longer exists.
It is now called Daiken Park.
Daiken Park, which is a Japanese air conditioner company, I guess.
So the ballpark is now named after a Japanese air conditioner company instead of juice.
So people are upset.
Now, here's the thing about stadium names, right?
Like back in the day, you knew the name of every stadium
because every stadium was somewhat unique
or it had a name of a person.
Very few of them were like naming rights based stadium names.
That's still a relatively new development. Like back when I
first started watching baseball, I'm pretty certain that the majority of stadiums didn't
have naming rights deals. Uh, hell, um, you know, like I'm in St. Louis, it's Bush stadium.
Bush stadium is technically a naming rights deal because they re-up it every year. I bought it out
every year, but when they do deals, they re-up it with Anheuser-Busch and call it Busch Stadium.
But Busch Stadium started as the name of the person who owned the team
and built the ballpark.
It became Busch Stadium.
And I don't know how true this is, but I think the back story on that
is he created, August Busch created Busch Beer
so he could have a name to put on the stadium and a product to
promote so initially he wanted to call the ballpark like budweiser stadium i think is what it was and
they're like no you can't have the name of budweiser as the name of your stadium so he created bush
beer so he could sell bush beer and put the name on the stadium. I don't know how true or how
accurate that was, but I've read somewhere that that was the case. Like Bush Beer came into
existence so Augie Bush could put Bush on the name of the stadium and would have a beer to sell with
it. So fascinating, right? Now, people obviously are acting a fool over this as if a naming rights deal for a stadium matters anymore. It's all business. It's all big money. It's like when these people in LA were all worked up because the Staples Center changed its name to crypto.com arena or whatever the hell it is now like oh my god i grew up with staples center kobe played in staples center yeah your
stadium your arena was named after an office supply store it's not like there was stanley q
staples who was a great community leader that that or a great mayor or something it was named
after a place where you buy staplers and paper and rulers and everything else and pins.
It's a place that you could go to make a Xerox of something.
It was staples.
It's not special.
And neither is Minute Maid, but people are all worked up because this is the name of our stadium.
Every story I'm reading starts off with, well, Minute Maid Park is no more.
Well, no, Minute Maid Park still exists.
That's just its dead name.
And now it is Dyken Park.
Dyken Park is what it's called.
I'm actually fascinated by what they're going to do with the train.
That was the biggest question I had the second I heard this, because the nice rotund gentleman
in the overalls, he goes up there.
And when the Astros hit a home run, the train goes.
And it's fun.
It's kind of one of the neat quirks of the stadium,
something that stands out about Minute Maid Park, dead name, now Dyken Park,
is that he had the little oranges.
The oranges, which I think are pumpkins in reality.
I don't know.
But he's got the oranges up there.
And he drives the train.
And there's oranges, right?
So they said there is
going to be something happening there that's going to change. They're going to have something new
for the train next year and moving forward. Perhaps they'll be hauling a load of window
units every time. I don't know. But the other thing that people have talked about is if you're
going to have a naming rights deal with an air conditioning company you better get the ac in the damn ballpark fixed because when it's 100 degrees and there's
30 40 000 people in there it's hot as shit we went to a game when did we end up there were we there
in august this year i guess august is when we went august or early september we went and it was hot
as hell and everywhere you sat in the ballpark was just
hot. And it's like, it's an indoor ballpark. You're supposed to be 72 degrees. It's supposed
to be comfortable. What are we doing here? And it's hot. So you had hope with an air conditioning
company now being the face, the name of the ballpark, dead name Minute park new name dyken park that's dyken park um maybe it'll be
cooler inside maybe they'll keep it nice and frigid it'll be that people are saying it's now
the ice box instead of the juice box but the number of people who are just shattered by this
is fascinating i really think there's only like a handful of parks that if they change their name it would truly be a sad
thing like Fenway is Fenway Park if it became like I don't know Walmart Stadium or something
that would be sad because Fenway Park is a hundred something year old ballpark and it's Fenway
Wrigley Field even though Wrigley kind of a naming rights thing if you think about it I mean the guy
owned the ball club but then he also had bubble gums and other things but uh wrigley field that would be sad if wrigley field
became like owls beef stadium you'd be like well this fucking sucks it's wrigley field i feel that
way about bush stadium because yes it's a naming rights deal but the name on the stadium is the
name of the guy that's the the most famous owner the team ever had so i'm okay with that as a
cardinals fan if they change the name from Bush Stadium,
I already have no interest in going anymore because they're terrible.
I'm certainly not going to go downtown St. Louis
to go to some bullshit ballpark that's not called Bush Stadium.
So maybe I'm a hypocrite, but to me, a name like Wrigley Field,
Bush Stadium, that's a historic name in baseball
that's been around for 60-something years now, Wrigley, Fenway, those kind of parks, those are the ballparks whose names can't change.
Other than that, I don't even know that I could tell you the names of most ballparks anymore.
I don't know that any of us can.
When I was a kid, I knew the name of every stadium because every stadium had something that was kind of unique to that city. It wasn't all fucking banks and office supply stores and air conditioner companies.
It was names or something about the community that it's in. A lot of them just had very basic
names. Like Bush Stadium was just like downtown civic center or some shit like Bush Memorial
Stadium in St. Louisis right uh that was
one of them but like i'm trying to think of some of the other stages i feel like i could name
every ballpark from the 1980s and early 90s before the naming rights boom really became a thing
so if you know you go down a list and you go all right atlanta atlanta played in atlanta
fulton county stadium it was a concrete donut that That's where Milo Hamilton called the number 715, right, from Hank Aaron. And it's also where the Falcons played. Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. That was the kid, still is. Chicago, you had Wrigley Field and you had Comiskey Park.
So even when they built the new stadium in the early 90s,
initially it was Comiskey Park.
Detroit was Tiger Stadium.
Like you knew all these things.
Like I guarantee you, all of you can do this right now.
You can name every ballpark from your childhood,
mostly because they didn't have shitty naming rights deals.
I could probably even name a lot of them from the early 2000s too. Nowadays, I don't think I can
name half the ballparks because the names change so frequently and I just don't pay that much
attention to it anymore. But I'm trying to think. You had Detroit was Tiger Stadium. You had the
ballpark at Arlington was one of them. You had, okay, let's think, Bush Stadium in St. Louis. We got to do
all the concrete donuts. So you had the concrete donuts, which were the multi-purpose round
stadiums built in the 60s and 70s. So Bush Stadium was one of them. I think Bush Stadium's actually
the OG of those stadiums. You had Bush Stadium in St. Louis. You had Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati. You had Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh.
You had, I'm trying to think of some of the others that I'm missing here.
Atlanta was Fulton County Stadium.
You had Comiskey in Chicago.
You had Wrigley in Chicago.
Fenway Park, Yankee Stadium, which I guess is still one of those names, if they ever
did a naming rights deal for Yankee Stadium, that would probably also suck. You'll look back on and go well shit that's yankee stadium you know that that's
not some bullshit that's not kmart field that's yankee stadium what are we doing you know uh but
yankee stadium would be one of them um in my day like i'm like because i go back to the early 90s
obviously it was oriole park at camden yards but before that
i believe they played in memorial stadium in baltimore um early on when you got the florida
marlins coming into their existence they played at joe robbie stadium which is now honest to god
i don't even know what the naming rights deal is on that park hard rock does that sound right um
then you would look at um what other stadiums am I
missing in that area? So you had Joe Robbie. Then you would go to San Diego, and that stadium had a
bunch of different names. I'm not talking about Petco, the current stadium. I'm talking about the
old multi-purpose park where the baseball team and the football team played. Eventually, it was
called Qualcomm Stadium, I believe. But at one point it was just Jack Murphy Stadium.
And then you would go to Anaheim
and it was just like Angel Stadium.
And then you would go to LA and it was Dodger Stadium.
I guess if Dodger Stadium had a naming rights deal,
that would also be kind of a sad time too
because Dodger Stadium feels like something.
It's just, it's different.
Now again, Minute Maid Park doesn't fall into that
it's not a historic stadium with a long-standing name the only reason it's called Minute Maid Park
is because of uh the shit that went down with Enron so Enron went away and people went to jail
and they had to change the name and it became Minute Maid Park for over 20 years but it's not
like it's got real history it's not a historic. Hell, the Astrodome has a whole lot more history
than that park, and it's called the NRG Astrodome
or Reliant Astrodome.
It's even got a naming rights deal.
The Superdome in New Orleans has a naming rights deal.
You know, that was weird for me.
Like, you're like, oh, it's the Caesar Superdome.
No, it's the fucking Superdome.
And I guarantee you a bunch of people
are still going to call Minute Maid Park Minute Maid Park because that's just what you do. Now, in some
places, though, the name doesn't really matter. Like in Chicago, I couldn't even tell you the
name of the White Sox Stadium now, but people in Chicago just call it Sox Park. Like when I talk
to my wife and I'm sitting there with her and her dad eating pizza at Vito and Nick's on the south
side of Chicago, when they reference the stadium, which used to be Comiskey Stadium or Comiskey Park,
and is now whatever the hell it is. I, honest to God, don't know the name of the stadium.
Last I knew it was U.S. Cellular, but I think it's got a different name since then.
They say, well, you know, they're going down to Sox Park. Like, that's just what they call it.
So maybe it's just going to be Astros Park to people. It's going to be a tough putt for people to have to figure out to call it Daiken.
That's Daiken, Japanese air conditioner company, Daiken Stadium, Daiken Park. So people are just
probably going to just call the goddamn thing Minute Maid Park, you know? But at the end of
the day, it's not like it was some special meaningful name. It wasn't like Hoff Heinz
Pavilion where it's like Judge Hoff Heinz and his name's on it now
like the fucking Fertitta Center.
At least the Fertitta Center's the guy
that put up the money for it.
So that's at least got some history.
It's not like Toyota Center
where they just spent the most money
to put their name on a giant cavernous arena.
Who cares?
NRG Stadium.
Like none of the stadiums there
really have any true history to their name. What's the none of the stadiums there really have any true uh history to their name
what's the name of the football it's T-D-E-C-U for U of H but the field is it like John O'Quinn
Field is that what the hell it's called point being in all of this is people are getting all
worked up over the name of a ballpark and it really doesn't matter because the ballpark name
doesn't mean anything because it was a corporate sponsorship to begin with. What other parks of my childhood did I miss? What was the name? Oh, Cincinnati. They had
Riverfront Stadium. And then when the early naming rights deal started coming in for those,
and it wasn't Riverfront Stadium anymore, it was Synergy Field. Synergy Field, I think,
was the last name I remember of the ballpark in cincinnati when griffey was
playing at the end of his career or you're really just battling injuries after he left seattle and
they're wearing those awful uniforms where they were sleeveless and had black shirts on underneath
the red uniforms they were hideous when griffey was there synergy field i believe was the last
name of that stadium but again when i was a kid a kid, man, I knew all that shit. Fulton County
Stadium, Bush Stadium in downtown St. Louis, Comiskey Park. And I'm sure there's older people
that like, oh, but to me, it's always Ebbets Field or Crosley Stadium or whatever. But
I honestly don't think I could name all of the stadiums in baseball anymore because I don't know
all the naming rights deals for them. I couldn't. I mean, hell, I'm in Missouri. Arrowhead Stadium is still
Arrowhead Stadium, but it's got a naming rights deal. It's called like G-E-H-A Stadium at Arrowhead.
Like what the fuck are we doing? But that's how it goes. So I'm going to play a couple commercials
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see if we can name all of the major league stadiums currently. Cause I don't think I can
name all of them. Like back in my day, I could, but I don't think I could today. Like there's
too many name changes. They're not long-term naming rights deals. I don't think I can name
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All right.
Let me see if I... I think I found a quiz that just allows you to try to name the stadium.
So it's not like they give you the name and you have to link it up with the stadium or with the team.
It's just team name.
You have to type in the name of their stadium.
This is at jetpunk.com.
I feel like I'm going to get
hardcore computer cancer from this. All right, I got five minutes here. All right, Red Sox. All
right, that's Fenway Park, right? All right, Fenway. All right, good. There's one. That is Wrigley Field. Okay.
Dodgers is Dodger.
Dodger.
Not Dodder.
Dodgers Stadium.
Okay.
Dodger Stadium.
Angels.
Like, I don't know what the name of the Angels.
Is it just Angel Stadium?
I don't know what the name of that ballpark.
It is just called Angel Stadium.
All right. We're four for four so far.
We got 422 to go.
We're not making good time.
Athletics.
Well, that would be the, that's the Coliseum,
but is it like the Oakland, is it OCO?
What the hell is the name of that goddamn stadium now?
OCO or O.CO Stadium?
I have no clue.
Pass, Royals, they play. Now, Kauffman's another stadium that at least has, or O.co stadium? I have no clue. Pass.
Royals, they play.
Now, Kauffman's another stadium that at least has, you know,
a nice historic name to it.
I don't know who Kauffman is, but I know it's Kauffman Stadium.
Let's see.
White Sox, I honestly don't know.
I'm skipping that.
Orioles, is Orioles still Camden Yards?
Are you still Camden Yards, Orioles?
Shit, this is not easy. The time sucks, and I only have one hand because I'm holding the mark okay Oriole Park at Camden Yards
check uh Guardians are they Progressive Field shit Progressive Progressive fill it out goddammit
go good Progressive Field Rockies there's no way you can do this in three and a half fucking
minutes with one hand how do one-handed people do shit uh Rockies is Coors Field which is a historic name for them but it's
a naming rights deal Diamondbacks I have no clue uh are the Rays still Tropicana Field
Tropicana and they're playing the Yankees minor league park this year because their stadium got
its head taken off uh Tropicana Field all right there we go mariners don't know if that's like is that
a phone place shit astros well i mean i guess we have to go with minute made park until further
notice minute made park minute god damn it just autofill it you're killing me here thank you giants i i don't know tigers they're still comerica park
right comerica there we go brewers the fuck is the brewers it was mill it was miller park and
then it became like family insurance or some shit pass uh pirates pnc park reds they are now at the
great american ballpark which i thought was just a cool name
as it turns out it's just named after a fucking bank that's how sellout we are we got stadiums
named after banks pnc bank great american bank uh padres that's petco petco god damn it we got
210 to go phillies that's citizens well let's go wait Wait, Mets is Citi Field, right? All right, Citi Field. Let's go
Citizens Bank Park. Is that it? Yes. Cardinals, that's Bush Stadium. Nationals, what the fuck
is the name of the national stadium? Yankees, that would just be Yankee Stadium, right? All right.
The Twins, the fuck is the name of the twin stadium shit pass we got a minute 40 to
go uh what the fuck is the name of the marlin stadium shit uh braves truest park i know that
rangers what the fuck is the new name of the rangers stadium it's not the ballpark at arlington
anymore uh white socks i don't know diamondbacks i doners. There's is, is there's T-Mobile? T-Mobile.
Is that the name of the stadium? T-Mobile? Yes. That's the name of the Mariners. Fuck yes. Uh,
we got a minute 15. Shit. Athletics. What the fuck is the name of the athletic stadium? Uh,
White Sox, Blue Jays, Blue Jays. What's the name of the fucking place? And it's, it's, uh,
oh shit. Uh, Giants. There's also some sort of phone place or something,
isn't it? It used to be Pac Bell Park many moons ago. Shit. Um, Nationals, I don't know. Twins.
What the fuck is the name of the twin stadium? Uh, Marlins. I don't, I, okay. There's like six
or seven. I don't know. Blue Jays. I don't know. White Sox the white socks still um oh you i'm gonna try us
cellular and see what happens is that the name of the stadium it is not us cellular it's something
else it's something like janky fucking phone service that you hear about like when you watch
mori one of those kind of fucking places god damn it what is the diamondbacks i legitimately don't
know twins marlins rangers brewers i'm gonna put like family insurance or something family
are you it are you family insurance park brewers shit i got seven cents this is bull i told you
the name of a stadium doesn't matter there's 10 10 out of these ballparks. I don't
out of the 30 stadiums I've listened
to that I don't know.
Can you show me the right answers? Okay.
Oakland. It's
not just the Oakland Coliseum. It
can't be
guaranteed rate
field for the White Sox shit
chase field for the Diamondbacks
back in my fucking day,
that place was called Bank One Ballpark, goddammit. Giants, Oracle Park. I was right.
Look, Brewers, American Family. Okay, it didn't count that for me because I was typing with one
hand and I kept misspelling it because I'm holding the microphone and I'm typing here.
But American Family, I knew that. Nah, Target Field Field in Minnesota Target's headquarters in Minneapolis
right that makes sense everything's got like Target
on it there
Marlins Lone Depot Park
and the range of the Globe Life Park
because eventually Ballpark at Arlington was called
Globe Life Park and I guess the naming rights deal
carried over this is bullshit
but I tell you all that to tell
you this
that naming rights for your ballpark really
doesn't fucking matter anymore because no one, like no one even knows. There's no meaning behind
any of these names. There's no meaning. So now I'm letting you know. So fret not, Houston friends.
The ballpark remains the same.
It's just a different name.
I like when a ballpark changes its name or they get a new naming rights deal
or like a team adds a patch to their jerseys or their helmets
and it looks gaudy and stupid,
but they have to hold a press conference to let you know about these things
which are 100% not baseball related at all
and things that the average person will not give a shit about but they still have to hold a press
conference for it like guys we have a big press conference today at the ballpark to announce that
some schmucks decided to give us so much money that we're putting their gaudy ugly logo on our
beautiful uniform and then people go to these press conferences like today they had to have a
big press conference and of course the press conferences all start out with, you know, like,
this is a big day in the history of the Houston Astros.
Is it really?
All you're doing is taking money from some other business
to put their name on your stadium
and not taking money from that other place
that was giving you money to put the name on the stadium.
God, think about how janky some of these
names are lone depot park like when you start getting places that sound like they should be
like like the um like if you if your place if your stadium has a name on it and the ads sound
like they run during the steve wilco show that's probably not great guaranteed rate field i forgot that was the name of the white socks park
shit i think u.s cellular is like two parks ago shit and why aren't they signing longer term
naming rights deals like at least minute made park was like 20 something years i don't think
we should be changing stadium names every two or three years it's bogus it's bullshit
i wonder if we can name all the football stadiums. Football stadiums, like a lot, are there a ton of naming right deals on football stadiums?
Like Ford Field in Detroit is a naming rights deal, but it's got history.
To me, Ford Field kind of feels like Bush Stadium, even though Ford Field's a new stadium.
But like back in the day, you'd get the Pontiac Silverdome because it was in Pontiac
fucking Michigan. You know, old basketball arenas had great names too. Now basketball arenas all
pretty much suck. They're all just giant buildings that don't have personality. And don't look,
I can go down a whole wormhole on why I think stadiums like Arrowhead Stadium shouldn't go away.
Like a lot of people in Kansas and Missouri right now are talking about whether or not the Chiefs should get a new stadium and where it should be. If the Chiefs played in a
stadium like Jerry World or any of these other big like gaudy stadiums like SoFi Stadium in LA,
like yeah, they're beautiful to look at. But is that where you really want to see a football game?
I'm not going to a football game because it's a shopping mall. I'm going to a football game
because I want to watch a goddamn football game and I want it to feel loud and fun and passionate. That's why I'm
going to a game. I'm not going to a game because I want the amenities of home, if that makes sense.
I need a scoreboard. I need to see what's going on. I need to see the replays. I don't want to
be totally uncomfortable, but I don't care how many giant bars are in a a stadium. Like give me a quick line where I can
get a fucking beer and I want to watch a football game. That's what I'm here to do. I'm not here to
mingle with people. It's a football game. There's only eight or nine of these every year. I'm here
because I'm passionate. Like the Superdome has added all these bars and shit and that's all cool.
The reason I like going to the Superdome is because it's loud as shit and I get to see a bunch of wackos there that like can cohabitate or just like co-mingle with people they normally wouldn't mingle with.
You're talking like, like I wouldn't be shocked if there are people who make 30 grand a year and they're dressed in costumes with like people who make seven figures that are in there dressed in costumes.
They're having a good fucking time.
That's why I go to games in the Superdome.
I don't care about all the bars. Just make sure I can get my beer and my snacks
quickly and get back to the seats and actually watch the fucking game because that's what I'm
there for. Now, baseball's different. A baseball stadium, you're going to go to 80-something games
a year in theory, or at least there's 80 opportunities to do it. Most baseball games
are boring as shit. Most baseball games are not sold out. So kind of
the experience of the ballpark is different. Like, yes, you want to be locked in for a big game or a
playoff game. But in reality, it's a social gathering to go to a baseball game. It's the
same reason why you can leave a baseball game on the TV or the radio and leave for two innings and
come back and just pick up with it. Because that's the nature of baseball. It's not an urgent sport
like football where there's only eight or nine of these things at home and every game matters
and the crowd makes an impact. None of that matters in baseball. Most of the time you're
going to baseball, drinking beer, sitting there having a conversation with somebody at the game
and oh look, somebody hit a home run. Neat. Like there's nothing overly special in terms of the
intensity of a baseball stadium, whereas you do get that in football so
anyway so uh dyken park dyken park is the name of the stadium now so people are just they're
crying about it on the internet stop your crying be worried if they don't sign bregman cry about
that say hey dyken you're gonna help us pay for alex bregman thank you all right i'll do more later