The Josh Innes Show - Right Wing Bro Comedy

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

I watched a little bit of the ESPY's last night and I've come to the conclusion that I don't enjoy Shane Gillis. I don't even know that it's his fault. I really blame the right wing jamokes who fawn over him as some sort of anti woke savior. Gillis and others from the Rogan crew are benefitting greatly from this woke era. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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that I am desirous of seeing. It's not one of these things I look forward to. But last night there wasn't a ton going on and when we got home from taking Ross for his walk and everything, we were like, well what the hell's on TV? We flip it on and we watch some of it. It's kind of half paying attention.

You know, like at one point they bring out Hamlin who had his heart attack on the field and basically died. And they bring out Billy Jean King so you've got Billy Jean King and you've got Hamlin and What's amazing about this is when Billy Jean King comes out well first they interviewed they introduced Hamlin like NFL star Damar Hamlin and then Billy Jean King the one and only Billy Jean King and I'm like listen no and then Billy Jean King, the one and only Billy Jean King.

And I'm like, listen, no offense to Billy Jean King. You've done a lot of stuff for Lady Sports. You know, you beat Bobby Riggs in that the battle of the sexes. You're pretty famous. Okay, cool. This dude literally came back from the dead. He didn't beat Bobby Riggs in a battle of the sexes, but he literally came back from the dead. He didn't beat Bobby Riggs in a battle of the sexes, but he literally came back from the dead. And we're over here like the one and only Billy Jean King. Shit,

it should be the one and only, you know, dude who came back from the dead. If you are somebody who died and was brought back to life, you deserve some sort of special status that is greater than, oh, this person beat Bobby Riggs in the battle of the sexes, right? Like I would think so. Like, like Nikki Six, Nikki Six died. That is what the song Kickstart My Heart is about.

Nikki Six died of an eight ball or a heroin overdose, whatever it was, and they had to jam a needle into his heart, pulp fiction style. Give me a felt fucking bang. Bam, right into the chest to bring the dude back to life. Kickstart my heart, wah-ha! Billie Jean King played tennis and she's done,

I'm not saying she hasn't done important things. All I'm saying is when somebody comes out and there's two people, one of them was brought back from the dead, basically is immortal at this point. Like you are an eternal life. You are immortal. There is nothing Billy Jean King can do that is greater than coming back to life unless she like grows wings and can fly. At that point I'd give that to you. If Billie Jean King grew wings and flew that might be a more impressive feat than Damar Hamlin dying and coming back to

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I don't think a lot of these guys are all that funny or all that interesting. It's strange cause I'm really anti woke things. I don't like woke comedy. I don't like woke actors I don't like woke music just everything woke bothers me. It's just annoying. It's not interesting So you would think by default that I would like some of these other things like by default I would love Shane Gillis just because Shane Gillis he's not woke. But it's the same way I felt about the Joe Rogan stand up a couple of months ago this was last year now it's been a while but the Joe Rogan live stand up where afterwards if you're a right wing person everybody said oh that was awesome and that guy took a shot at all the things you're

supposed to take a shot at and woke culture is dead. And this is great. And then if you're like a left-wing person, you're like, this is terrible. This is awful and whatever. The reality is the Joe Rogan standup was not that funny. It was awkward. It was clunky. He was kind of all over the place. I don't find Joe Rogan to be that funny, right?

And you would think that somebody like me, white dude, late thirties, not married, been called an incel multiple times by people on the internet, even though I'm not an incel, but I've been called an incel by people. But like, I look like it. I guess if you're going to say, what does an incel look like?

It's, oh, it's the fat guy with the beard and the glasses that's drinking bush lights and watching the espies. Maybe I am the incel. But when I see these things, I see people and I see the way they react to like the guys like Shane Gillis and Joe Rogan and Kil Tony and these people. I don't know that people think these folks are actually funny. They just view them as something that symbolizes something that means something to them. And what it means to them is the end of this woke culture that we're in.

So I think they give them like the non woke bump is what we'll call that the non woke bump. What does that mean? It means they give them more credit because they're so not woke that they they consider them funnier Because they're not woke. I don't like to do that. Like that's not really how I operate in this world, right? I don't look at these things and go well Shane Gillis is comedy isn't woke So I'm just gonna like him anyway, and I think Shane Gillis gets that from a lot of like white Trump or type people

He certainly gets it from right-wing, like right wing media people, you know, the, the clay Travis's and you know, those types of people, right wing media and right wing people in general, fawn over guys like, uh, guys like Shane Gillis because Shane Gillis represents the anti woke and they absolutely love that about him. The reality is if you truly gauge, it's kind of like when you view like a kid's movie. Like you don't judge rookie of the year

on whether or not it's a good movie compared to like Pulp Fiction or Schindler's List. You view a rookie of the year on whether or not you think it's good for a six-year-old. Like if it's like, you can't give a full-on honest review of a kid's movie if you're an adult person. If you're a kid and you watch it, you can give the review. If you are an adult, it's not the same, right?

Like it's not fair for you as an adult to give that kind of review because it's not for you, right? It's the same thing with, with that kind of comedy, right? Like, I don't know. Like, when I watch Shane Gillis, I don't find Shane Gillis to be that funny, nor do I find him to be that likable, nor do I find Joe Rogan to be that funny, nor do I find Kil Tony to be that funny,

or the guy with the slick back hair and the mustache that's on Rogan sometimes that does shit with Charlamagne, the God, I don't find him to be all that funny. Like I'm just, I'm not into those guys. And you think I would be because I'm, I'm anti all the other shit. So by association, just by default rather, you would think Josh has to love Shane Gillis. I watched Shane Gillis and I just, I, here's what it feels like to me. It feels like we are so regressive in the way we do comedy now,

that anytime someone says anything that can even be perceived as slightly daring or slightly off color, we're like, that person's got, that guy is not afraid to say what's on everybody's mind, right? Like that's the kind of reaction you get. But then you listen to the content and you're like, yeah, this content kind of sucks, right?

Like we're not in an era where people push boundaries in comedy, like pushing boundaries in comedy is like that red hair dude that was in the little dicky show that did the standup and basically intimated that no one would care if someone tried to kill Trump. And that was kind of like, oh, this is comedy, we're pushing boundaries. But comedy used to be so good

and it used to just be naturally edgy. Sam Kennison or Bill Hicks or Richard Pryor or Prime, just go down the list of guys that were great, you know, Carlin, Prime Carlin, guys of that era, you'd go, shit is so good that, you know, like everybody's edgy, everyone's pushing boundaries, everyone's taking it to the limit. So now when we perceive everything to be super woke and anti-Trump and easy humorous, making fun of MAGA,

and you're not wrong there, but because we're getting so much of that kind of comedy, someone like Shane Gillis comes out and you're like, this guy here gets it. He's taking chances. Like I'm gonna say something that's sacrilege, but like even Dave Chappelle, like sometimes Dave Chappelle's shit feels forced. Like you go back and watch some of like the transgender shit and shit that Dave Chappelle does, it feels forced. The Joe Rogan

shit in his live stand-up feels forced. Shane Gillis feels forced. It's like, well, we got to kind of give the right-wing people what they want to kind of superserve, not even right-wing, but kind of bros, right? Like we're in the bro era. And really it's at the ESPN is at the fault here. You've got ESPN's at fault. You've got all these different companies at fault because they have so wokeified everything. It has opened the door for the right-wing slash bro culture to to come in and the bro culture is kind of overtaking everything, right? Like I was reading that Fox has hired Dave Portnoy to do big noon kickoff and that they're gonna do some shit

with Barstool. Very smart by the way, because I mean, VSPN is gonna go to bed with Pat McAfee. Why not take a shot with the bigger entity, which is Barstool? So if they can do some shit with Barstool and they wanna go with it, go with it. I'm not knocking the idea of these companies

following the bro culture. What I'm saying is bro culture feels like it tries too fucking hard to be anti woke culture and they both come across as insufferable. Let me tell you a really good standup. The best standup that I've watched in five years is John Mulaney, it's called Baby J. And the entire standup is basically about his

having to go to rehab for drugs. And it's part storytelling, it's part standup, and it's just spectacular. I've not laughed more at a standup. And there are a lot of guys that I view that way, but that's the best one I've watched in five years. Like, and there's also guys that I really enjoy. Like I really enjoy,

oh, who's the fucking guy? Sebastian Maniscalco, who by the way, they're not bringing back the bookie show that I liked on, what was it on Showtime or HBO, big picture. I can bringing back the bookie show that I liked on, what was it, on Showtime or HBO. Big picture, I can't imagine it was a show that anyone other than degenerate gamblers would have found amusing. And the show really went nowhere, but I like it

because I like Sebastian Maniscalco. But I've watched some of his standups. There's a gal, and I don't know her name, but her videos always pop up on Netflix. Her specials always pop up on Netflix. Blonde girl, hair's always in a ponytail ponytail and she's like telling stories about having anxiety and shit and I'm like I Think you're funny. I watched Hannah. I'm binders or I'm bender. I forgot how you say your name the one that's on hacks I've watched her stand up and I thought it was pretty funny

Like the thing about me is like I am very anti woke culture but when it comes to comedy, I'm not really low hanging fruit, like fart comedian, like low hanging fruit guy farts in class and everybody laughs comedy. It's like, now on the radio, I'll do some low hanging fruit bullshit, but like the shit I find funny is not that.

Like this might be a bad example, but when I just sit around and do nothing like if we're eating dinner or something I don't want to put on something we want to watch I'll go to Netflix and throw on some shitty movie I know I have no interest in. So I saw the original Grown Ups when it came out because that's when we met Adam Sandler at Radio Row in 2010 he and Kevin James were promoting Grown Ups and I thought the first Grown Ups was one of the worst movies I'd ever seen.

Maybe it's not for me, but it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. That is until yesterday when I put Grown Ups 2 on in the background while we were eating dinner. And Grown Ups 2, by comparison, made Grown Ups 1 look like Citizen Kane, one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And like my type, like look, I like a lot of dumb humor.

I'm not telling you that I'm a snob when it comes to humor, but I find myself finding dudes like, I feel like I relate more to like a Mark Maron, who I love by the way. Like I love watching Mark Maron on this, the show on Apple TV with Owen Wilson called a stick. Like I've, I'm watching this last night, a new episode of it. And I'm watching, I go, Julie, I think I have a bizarre man crush on Mark Maron.

Like I feel like his overall demeanor is that that is closer to mine. Like my, like, look, I love to drink beer, chug beer, do dumb shit, say stupid shit. Okay. But like, and maybe I don't drink beer, chug beer, do dumb shit, say stupid shit, okay? But like, and maybe I don't fit into one particular group or one particular category, but like when I, like I like cerebral shit when it comes to comedy. Now I'm not telling you that there isn't a place

for dumb fucking comedy. There's tons of dumb comedy that I enjoy. But when it comes to standup, I feel like I kind of gravitate more to people that kind of have a point of view and are kind of not deeper because deeper sounds pretentious, but like just kind of slicker and smarter in the way they deliver shit. And when I watch Shane Gillis and maybe his standup is better than the SB stuff or better than the show tires, like I find myself watching tires on

Netflix and kind of forcing myself to think it's funny because I think I'm supposed to think it's funny because I've been kind of Dumped into this box and this box is that I'm like right wing Dude that like loves Joe Rogan and shit like I'm in that box, right? So people kind of pigeonhole me there and they're like that's Josh So I feel like I'm supposed to watch that because he's saying kind of off-color shit and no one else is saying off-color Shit anymore. So it must be edgy and then I'm like, nah, I just don't find this show fucking funny I don't feel compelled to put this show on and finish a season of it. I was watching There's a show called Detroiters and I watched

the two seasons of it. I didn't watch it when it was on. I was looking for something to put on in the background a couple weeks ago. I put that on. I watched both seasons of it pretty quick and I found it funny. It was stupid humor, but I laughed at it. The problem I have with the Shane Gillis's and the Rogan's and people like that, and even Chappelle to an extent is I don't think they truly have a point of view on this shit in their comedy. I think they're trying to cash in and take advantage of the fact that comedy

and just everything in general is so left and so kind of blah, that they can be slightly edgy and it could be like, whoa, these guys are pushing boundaries. Like you want boundary pushing, go listen to Stern when Stern was good in the early to mid 90s.

There's some shit on there when you hear that you go, this is the funniest shit I've ever fucking heard and this is truly pushing boundaries. Go listen to Billy West doing Marge Shot and the Marge, like that's pushing boundaries and it's fucking hysterical and it's game changing. When I listen to these guys I don't feel like these are game changes or guys that are gonna be remembered in history as

People who changed that the course of comedy These are just bros that got popular on podcast Joe Rogan helped elevate them and make them popular on Podcast and now because they're slightly edgier in this world where right wing slash bro dudes have been kind of cast aside as fucking meatheads, this is their safe haven for comedy and they react to it. That's how I view those kind of guys. That's how I view the Gillis's and that's how I view the guy with the mustache and the slick back hair and that's how I view Kill Tony. Although I think Kill Tony, the shit they do on Kill Tony, there's a lot of shit on

there that's so fucking dirty and raw. That's pretty fucking good. I don't particularly like Tony Hinchcliffe I like the concept of killtony. I think the concept is good. I don't really like him There's just a lot of these guys and that's not to say that I like other dudes that are considered left-wing dudes either There's a lot of guys I fucking hate but I don't like the idea that some dudes are now funny because everyone else is so not funny or so woke. And that's the other problem is people will like someone just because they think that they're the right-wing comedian so they must like them or they are the Trump comedian so they must like them. I don't want to fall into that category. How about you make me fucking laugh? And when I see a lot of shit

that Shane Gillis does, when Shane Gillis starts doing Trump and starts doing dumb shit as Trump, I laugh my ass off. The clips I saw yesterday, there were a couple of funny ones from Shane Gillis and I haven't watched the whole monologue. I'll do that. I'll do another pod here in a second with that. Cause I haven't watched the full thing. I've seen a couple of clips and some of them are funny, but I also don't even think the jokes were delivered well in some cases, if that makes sense. Anyway, so here's what I'll do then. I didn't have intentions of doing a full on comedy breakdown. Mind you, I'm not a comedy snob. I like a lot of dumb shit. I love a lot of dumb shit. But I find myself watching, you know, the studio with Seth Rogen

and I'm like, I find this show to be fucking hilarious. And then I try to watch tires and I'm like, this is a show that feels like it's trying to be so like anti-woke that it just feels forced and unfunny to me. So I meant to get the audio in here. Let me do the audio here. Let me do another episode. We'll do that after this.