The Josh Innes Show - Rock and Roll HOF

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Or if you think it's absurd and lazy to break down who's going to be like, is Eli Manning a Football Hall of Famer and he didn't get in this time? It's an outrage, right, if you're one of those people? If you think it's ridiculous to talk about those things, imagine the absurdity of getting worked up over the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Well, there are actually, I haven't looked today, there's a guy named eddie trunk and eddie trunk is somehow like the gatekeeper of rock and roll opinions for whatever reason he has a show on serious like called trunk nation what show was eddie trunk on bat was he on head

he wasn't on headbangers ball what was the show that was that metal show is that what eddie trunk was a host of because headbangers ball was ricky rackman uh let me metal show is that what eddie trunk was a host of because headbangers ball was ricky rackman uh let me see let me look at eddie trunk's story i'm sure a lot of people listening in philly know who he is because like the only people that call into eddie trunk's show on xm are all from new jersey like if you have to do yourself a favor like whenever his show is on on whatever channel on xm it's on listen to the show and they're like like the absurdity of calling in about sports opinions is one thing but when there's people calling in about rock music opinions i don't know why i find it so funny

and the vast majority of the people who call are from new jersey or pennsylvania like i i am of the belief that the only people who listen to talk programming on XM are in the Northeast. So New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey. Those are the only people who listen to talk content on XM. Now, I'm sure there's some guy that's got XM in his car and he's down like in Mobile, Alabama listening to the 80s on 8 or Classic Rewind or Classic Vinyl, but you're not listening to the sports channel on XM. You know why? Because it's all New York dopes who don't give a shit about anything other than New York, or in this case, Eddie Trunk. Let me see what Eddie Trunk's Wikipedia is. Like, basically, here's what I hear about Eddie Trunk all the time. Eddie Trunk is going to be on the 80s hair metal cruise this week where he's going to be hanging out with Warrant and fucking Rat.

Like that's what Eddie Trunk does. But also he does some cool shit. Like he's like the dude that intros bands at like the M3 Rock Fest and shit. So like I'm not trying to bang on the dude. But like he takes this fucking rock shit really serious. He's like hardcore sports nerd. Like whatever broadcaster you think is a hardcore sports nerd that only cares about sports and it's not here for your fun and frivolity. That's Eddie trunk,

but about rock music. Like I've turned it on times listening to him get worked up over people calling it hair metal. Like it's hair metal. It gets a bad name and it's metal and blah. I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. Who gives a shit?

Um, but what the hell was the name of that show he was on uh let's see radio crews a radio guy i think in jersey and wnew in new york okay does shit on xm okay okay what was okay trunk was also the host and co-producer of that metal show which aired weekly on vH1 Classic from 2018 to 2015. Ah, okay. He was also VH1's Metal Mania Weekend. So he did a lot of shit on VH1. I'm guessing that he didn't do anything on MTV. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but worked at WNEW in New York. Okay, cool. Like he's a legit dude. I'm not trying to rip him, but it's fucking hysterical when you listen to this show and like people get worked up talking about Kiss or some shit. And it's fucking hysterical when you listen to this show and like people get worked up talking

about kiss or some shit and it's fucking phenomenal if you've never listened to it i don't know what channel he's on i'm sure there's somebody you know in philly because like philly people will listen to this shit that's why i should have never flunked my way out of philadelphia it is the only place that gives a shit about radio anymore and every time i'm telling you when you're listening and eddie trunk will play a song, then he'll come back and talk for 20 minutes about how like Rat is going out on tour and this is how Steven, Steven Pearcy's not in Rat,

but like this is how Steven Pearcy sounds now. And like, it's ridiculous. So listen to it and then people will call and like, yo, Eddie, how you doing, bud? Let's go to Joey who's in philly you're on trunk nation go ahead joey hey bo uh look i was over uh down to shore last year and uh i went to see uh enough's enough and let me tell you man chip doesn't seem to have it anymore what do you what do you think about chips enough and then like they'll get into a breakdown of enough it's fucking amazing like i'm listening to these people

like who the fuck cares uh but uh that's the show why do i bring this up we talk about the absurdity of like the rock and roll hall of fame and people getting just hall of fames in general well the rock and roll hall of fame has its nominees and you want to see people get worked up there is nothing that gets people more worked up than the term rock and roll, because when you associate rock and roll, you think about rock music. But that's not what rock and roll means as it relates to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh, no, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame means all genres of music, which really pisses people off. All right, let's do this. Let's play a couple commercials, and let's read this list of the nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Limited time offer. See terms at picksix.draftkings.com slash promos. All right, so let's see. The nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2025. Bad Company is a first-time nominee. Like, why is Bad Company not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? You see some of these shitty bands that are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Now here's what I'm going to do.

I'm going to get into a legit debate. I spent five minutes making fun of the concept of debating about this. Now my dumb ass is going to sit here and debate it. But, like, if Foreigner is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which I believe they went in last year, why the fuck is Bad Company a first-time nominee? Like bands like Foreigner and shit sound like shittier versions of Bad Company. Like Bad Company, fucked. Now maybe Bad Company didn't have as many hits as like a Foreigner or something like that. But Bad Company, they can wail, man.

Like Bad Company's fucking good and um they're a first-time nominee the black crows who i'm fine with but the black crows basically had that one little moment in time where the black crows kind of mattered and then it was like yeah like again it should i can't believe i'm doing this in a sports context but it should be like sports if you just hear a name and you go, that person's a hall of famer, then maybe that person's a hall of famer. My instinct is that the black cross, they just put everybody in the fucking hall of fame at this point. Just take them all, put them in the hall of fame. Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey is again, not a rock and roller, but if you're just looking straight up music, Mariah Carey is a music hall of famer.

You have to eliminate the term rock and roll. God, why am I doing this to myself? I sound like a fucking dope. You got to eliminate rock and roll from the title, and you just got to call it the music Hall of Fame. I know that rock and roll Hall of Fame sounds cooler, but I hate to break it to you, but fucking Mariah Carey ain't making rock and fucking roll. So you got to call it the music Hall of Fame. And Mariah Carey is a very important artist who sold a billion albums, far more so than the fucking Black Crows. Chubby Checker, the fellow who did the twist. And then to do you one better, that motherfucker twisted again. I think my dad be automatically eliminated if you've ever done anything associated with my dad in one of his shows. So if you've ever played a show that my dad put on, you should be automatically ineligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So you are eliminated, Chubby Checker. Joe Cocker. Now, the thing that fascinates me about Joe Cocker, and the reason I think you are so beautiful is like one of the most gorgeous songs ever, is because Joe Cocker and the reason I think you are so beautiful is like the most one of the most gorgeous songs ever is because Joe Cocker is seemingly such a shitty singer that like it

almost sounds like some guy some drunk dude that's about to lose his old lady singing karaoke to her and like like you know he's truly in love with her and like that's all he's got but like certain joke I mean Joe Cocker played Woodstock That shouldn't be just a prerequisite. I mean, fucking didn't, whatchamacallit, who are the dudes that played Johnny Casino and the Gamblers in Greece? Who the fuck are they? Who am I thinking of? Their name's going to come to me in the middle of this discussion, but they played Woodstock.

So if like they played Woodstock, then who gives a fuck, right? Dude, one of my favorite segments I did on the radio here was where we broke down how much each band was paid to play Woodstock like these dudes made no money and then like one band like their flight they couldn't make it so they're like fuck it we're not gonna go anyway and then like you know obviously Woodstock became Woodstock and these dudes are like fuck I forgot which band that was but um anyway I'm the band I'm thinking of that played Johnny Casino and the Gamblers, there's a dude from that band who's like a hardcore anti-Trump guy. How am I drawing a blank on those guys? But they played Woodstock.

You know, the guys in Greece at the school dance. Let's hand jive those motherfuckers. Who? What is the name of that shitty band? And they have a guy in that band who's like hardcore left-wing dude that shit on Trump during the election. And no liberals made fun of that. Oh, whenever right-wingers got fucking chachi, we all make fun of it.

But when the dude from fucking Greece is all about the left wing, we don't make fun of him for being irrelevant. Now, do we? Anyway, Joe Cocker kind of fucks of course the theme song well he did the the beatles song the what would you do with the sang out of tune i don't know why i sounded like a mcdougall doing that hey you what what would you do if i sang out of tune bro what would you do um but uh and of course feeling all right that's a jam he's got some love lift us up where we belong but to me joe cocker is not a rock and roll hall of famer again insta first thing you

hear the name do you go billy idol rock and roll hall of famer i like billy idol i haven't seen him in concert but if you really think about the number of hits billy idol pumped out it's kind of astounding just off the top of my head right like rebel yell eyes without a fucking face hot in the city hot in the city tonight um rock the cradle of love i mean uh uh what's the white wedding? Dude's got a ton of hits. He did the cover of Money, Money, which fucks. Let's just say, okay, now I got to know. How many actual hits?

Like, to me, Billy Idol's a rock and roll Hall of Famer. It's going to sound ridiculous. Joe Cocker, not a rock and roll Hall of Famer. You want to have a conversation that'll really piss off the people that listen to classic rock radio stations, particularly in St. Louis. Tell them Billy Idol's a rock and roll Hall of famer, but Joe Cocker can fuck off. Just see what they do. Billy Idol, by the way, 70. Also, Billy Idol, amazing cameo in Wedding Singer.

Hey, nobody talks to Billy Idol that way. Billy Idol gets it. I don't know why she doesn't. All right, let's see Billy Idol's hit songs here. Dancing with Myself, banger. Moany Moany, banger. Hot in the City, banger. White Wedding, banger. Rebel Yell, banger. Eyes Without a Face, banger. Flesh for Fantasy, banger. To Be a Lover, banger. Then there's some that you don't really know, blah blah blah blah cradle of love banger okay then it's over so there's still a good number of bangers like if you were to go to a billy idol show you would have enough bangers where you'd be like let's fucking rock

right like there wouldn't be a bunch of dead spaces in there you'd know enough he'd know how to pump out the hits because he's billy fucking idol So I'd say Billy Idol, Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, Rebel Yell, Let's Go. All right, let's go back to the list. Cyndi Lauper. Look, I do not consider Cyndi Lauper to be a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer. However, that first, Cyndi Lauper had like two solid albums was the first one called she's so unusual was that the name of the Cindy Lauper album that had like the big ones on it and then she did the song from the fucking Goonies good love Cindy Lauper by the way older than Billy Idol these people are old she's 71 but what the hell was the name that she did a song about masturbation that was called

she bop of course but the big Cindy Lauper album was called, was it called She's So Unusual? Yes, that was the first one. And that one was seven times platinum. She had two platinum albums. So on She's So Unusual, which was, again, killer album. That's the one that had Girls just want to have fun but it also i want to say had uh let's see yeah time after time all through the night god that's a good song money changes everything she bop hell true colors was on the next album which was called true colors uh the goonies soundtrack goonies are good enough like there was some good jams change of heart was a good song i drove all night that's another solid one that people forget about i drove all night yeah anyway cindy lopper i'm not going to talk myself into you being a rock and roll hall of famer but you fuck and i like you uh let's see uh mania don't know what that is oasisasis. Now, the Oasis thing is fascinating, because you could argue. There was no bigger band in the universe

for about two years or so, and they're touring again this year, which I'd be kind of intrigued by. But I do not consider Oasis to be Rock and Roll Hall of Famers. They had a moment. They had a big moment. But I would not put Oasis in there. Outkast.

I don't consider Outkast to be in there either. Phish. Go fuck yourself. This is an anti-Phish establishment. I don't consider Outcast to be in there either. Fish. Go fuck yourself. We're just an anti-fish establishment. I don't know anything about fish. All I know is I hate people that like fish. It's not right. It is completely unfounded. I don't know why I dislike you, but I do. Soundgarden. White Stripes. So I'm going with Billyy idol lock lock of the millennium billy idol rock and roll hall of fame mariah carey rock and roll hall of fame and bad company i think i hate like the black crows nothing they did but like you work in classic rock for like three years and there's like three

black crow songs that always fucking play like fucking hard to handle and not that they're bad songs but like you hear them so often and it's not like they have a deep catalog of music that plays on these radio stations it's not like you know Pink Floyd where there's 30 songs that seem to rotate or like Led Zeppelin who's got 30 songs that rotate it's like no here's what you get you get like two songs from these bands and that's all you're gonna get and that's what you get you get like two songs from these bands and that's all you're gonna get and that's what you get you get twice as hard you get hard to handle and then there's like one other black crow song that plays all the freaking time and you just get bored with it so i have nothing against the black crows but if like you gotta like you say first thought rock and roll hall of fame black crows i'd say no i'd almost argue more for cindy

lopper sacrilege i know and these are the kind of important discussions that you get on the rock and roll radio but now you don't get any of these discussions because now these radio stations just throw some dweeb on for 10 seconds to tell you what song that was this is here's traffic and uh you don't get anything but what do i know uh anyway you guys are lovely i do love you and we will uh we will continue