The Josh Innes Show - Rozier Owed Millions To The IRS

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Terry Rozier owed over $8 million dollars to the IRS at the time he allegedly screwed with the prop bets. Now, that doesn't mean he's guilty. But, it would give him a solid reason to get in on it. I still want to know how these guys got in with the MOB. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ah, let's see this story. Headline reads, Terry Rozier owed millions in back taxes and same year as disputed NBA game. Well, see, now we may know what got him in bed with the mom. Ah, ha. I see. You owe $8 million. First of all, you're worth so much money, and I get that you have to pay taxes. It baffles me that people have this kind of money and have tax liens and have tax issues.

who's like maybe I'm totally naive. And look, I'm like the wrong guy to talk about this because I am a degenerate and my finances are terrible. And I'm lucky that I don't have any real responsibility and that I don't have kids or anything like that. I'm lucky because I have fucked my life up beyond belief financially. Let's play a couple commercials and we'll continue. At Desjardin, we speak business.

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And some things have gone against me Some things I've caused Some things I haven't That's just life right But like I am an example of someone Who should be much better off than I was When I was telling you, I've told you this before When I was doing 790

And I hated it there I was making so much money That I was putting away 3, 4, 5 grand a month I think it was 3 grand a month I was just putting away That was going to a different account that I never fucking saw

That's how wild my life was at that point. Like, that's pretty good, right? Like, it's not, you know, Terry Rozier making $150 million, but it's pretty fucking good. I wasn't, I didn't really gamble at the time because there was no way to gamble. There was no legalized betting. So I just, I just, just hoarded money away. And then, of course, I had to use a lot of it once I got fired and all that kind of stuff. And, like, look, I have none of that left.

But fuck, life was pretty good. I was kind of kicking ass in life. And, like, look, I look back on a lot of stuff, man. I know we talk about this all the time, but I look back on a lot of stuff and I'm like, Josh, you really fucked your life up because you could, should, would be someone who's set financially and everything else, but you fucked yourself up. You messed up and you messed up a lot of opportunities. On the other hand, it's like, that's who I am. I mess up opportunities. I've screwed up a lot of things. I should be better off than I am, but whatever. But when I look at somebody that makes the money Terry Rozier makes, it's shocking to me that you can have a tax lien of a, like, again, did you not pay? pay taxes. I don't fully know how this works. I don't know how taxes come out of your paychecks with the NBA. I have no clue. And I get that when you start making more money, you start spending more money. But I see the shit that people spend millions of dollars on and I'm baffled by it. Like me, my vice, I've gambled way too much. I can be totally honest with you.

I've gambled way too much and I've sent a lot of money on fucking fire. I have fucked up. I have done that. I would not tell you not to gamble. I'm not going to preach to you. But I have fucked some shit up in my day. I've made some big mistakes. I've wasted. a lot of money. Like, I could survive. With the money I used to make, I could survive going and, you know, I could order a couple of things on Fanatics every night and spend, oh, here's $150 bucks on Fanatics, and I bought these. Like, those purchases didn't kill me. What killed me is I spent way too much money gambling over the last six, seven years, and it's stupid, and I've done it, and I'm a fuck up, and I get it. But what I can't wrap my brain around is that if someone's

making the money that Terry Rozier and these guys are making, how you get yourself into all these tax issues and I guess I kind of get it because if you're not getting things taxed, if income's not coming out or if you're not getting taxed on your income, maybe like you just don't put shit away. Like there are things. But man, if I, and maybe it's easy to say because I'm not doing it and we're not making that kind of money. But man, if I'm making $150 million or whatever it is, I don't need a $5 million house or whatever. I'd be quite content. And in my mind, Maybe I'd be wrong if I actually had the options. I don't want to live in a 10-bedroom house, and I don't want a mansion, and I don't want a basketball court.

I don't want all this shit. Give me a comfortable house where I have a lot of space and a patio outside with an overhang, that I can get a smoke. Give me a Trager, and life will be good. That's what I'd like to do. I just want to be comfortable. I don't need to live in a mansion. And even if I had millions of dollars, that's what I would want to do. I don't want to live in a mansion.

I want to live in a nice house, and I'd like to have a nice yard, and I'd like to have a place for my dogs. and I'd like to not go without, like anything I want I'd want to have, but my wants are not that of an 11-room mansion, my wants are not that of a Bugatti. Like, these are not the things I covet. You know what I'm saying? That's just not what I'm about. So I choose to believe that if I made that kind of cash, then I wouldn't get myself into that kind of trouble.

Or if I made that kind of cash, perhaps I would just go out and waste it all gambling, too. So I don't know. But let's read some of this Terry Rozier story. So Terry Rozier owed millions in back taxes. the same years disputed NBA game. He had an $8 million tax lien around the same time he allegedly pulled himself from the 2023 NBA game that's currently the focal point of the investigation. Court records obtained by ESPN and Broward County, Florida,

show the Internal Revenue Service filed an 8.2 million federal income tax lien against Rozier in November 2023. Rozier has been charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering in an indictment released last week by a federal court in New York. He's accused of being part of an illegal betting scheme, blah, blah, and alerting gamblers. He intended to fake an injury in order to make money off a prop bet. I'd like to know how much money he stood to make. Justice Department officials allege that more than $200,000 was bet on Rozier's under game totals and several statistical categories. Rozier's attorney, Jim Trustee, said that his client is not a gambler and he looks forward to winning this fight.

You don't have to be a gambler, but it seems like the pieces are kind of getting connected here. ESPN also uncovered records from Broward County showing a construction lien filed against Rozier in August 2022 for about $271,000 for a variety of work being done on Rozier's $5.3 million property there. The records show $250,000 was paid by July 2023. So, of course, you know the details of the investigation and everything else. That's all that's in the story. The NBA has placed Rozier in Billups on immediate leave. Lee continues with the law enforcement officials in the investigation, blah, blah, blah. So it's not a huge bombshell there, but I mean, it could be part of the issue.

Like, you want to say, hey, do you believe that this guy was gambling? They claim he's not. They claim he didn't know. He claims he doesn't know what was going on. Well, perhaps when you see that a guy owes $8 million in back taxes, perhaps that could be one of the reasons why you needed to get involved. That's the biggest thing I still want to find is how these guys got tangled up with the mobsters. That's my biggest question about all this. How did they get involved?

What got them in? Now, it's very possible that these guys got in with mobsters by accident. And by accident, I mean that they didn't really realize what they were getting into and how big the scope was. But there's also a possibility that they needed money. Like, again, you talk about how could Chauncey Billups need money? How could Terry Rozier need money? Guy owed $8 million in taxes. No matter how much money you have, people have issues.

Whether you're not good with your money, whether you don't pay your taxes, whatever it is. no matter how rich somebody is. Hey, by the way, more money, more problems, right? That's the old thing. More money, more problems. You know what happens when you make more money? You have to pay more money in taxes. If you get yourself into a hole, you try to dig yourself out of it.

But again, the mob has to know, in that instance, the mob has to know that you're in a hole and that you need to get out of the hole. They need to figure out, I mean, I don't think they just find you. Now, I've also heard stories of the mob where they kind of scout people and they find people they think can help make them their money and get involved with them. And once you're involved with the mob, you ain't getting out of involvement with the mob. You're in. They have you forever. So once you get in bed with these guys, there's no getting out. They own your ass. So I'm genuinely curious about how he got into that position,

how Terry Rozier got himself into a position where he's throwing these games with the mob. Because he's not just going to do it on his own, because I don't think he's going to throw in $200,000 on fan duel because that would be too obvious and they caught them anyway. So I don't know. How did these guys get in with the mob? What got the mob to them? What led them to organize crime? And then they couldn't get out. So then you're kind of stuck. That's some of the arguments I've seen people who are defending these guys make is that they got themselves into a mess that they couldn't get out of. They didn't know they were involved in it to start. Then they got too deep into it and couldn't get out because the mob got their hooks in them and they couldn't

get out. I don't know that I buy that. I find that hard to believe. I feel like it would not shock me if these guys knew that they were in on scamming some dudes to make a couple bucks, but then once the scam continued and they got involved with the mob in the scam, they couldn't get out. Perhaps they thought early on that it was something they can get out of relatively easy. It's just to make a couple of bucks. We're going to scam a couple of guys here and there, Bada, bang. And then maybe they got in too deep. Could be. Could be a situation where they got in too deep and couldn't get out of it. These are all very possible things, but I don't know. I'm fascinated by this story. And until we get the answer, like we don't know how these guys got tangled up with

the mob. And that's the story I want to see. When we see that story, that's what I'm here for. I am here to see how these guys got involved with the mom. And if I can get that, then I'll be happy. And maybe we'll never know. Maybe that is something we will never find out. We will never know. full on how they did. We'll probably find out something, but, like, I want to know that. Give me those details, please and thank you. Because, again, the mob can scout you. Like, they can kind of groom you in a way, and then, like, you think you're in with them.

You think your buddies with them, right? Like, you think things are going well for you. And then before you know it, things are not going particularly well, and they own you. That's possible. It's not impossible. So I'm not writing that idea off. But, I don't know, could greed be involved? Again, as we bring up with Rozier here, this is a guy that's made millions of dollars, yet he's not paying his taxes, and he owes cash, and he needs to find cash quick.

So what's the quickest way to do it? You get involved with these guys. Maybe he went to the mob for money. I don't know. Maybe he knew someone who knew some mobsters. They said, hey, we can get you a couple of bucks. We know a loan shark here. He'll float some cash to pay this.

And then you're indebted to them. That's really how a lot of these points shaving things start, too. once you start getting into the point shaving world is once they've got you once they've got you forever go watch the documentary about the uh the boston college uh Boston college point shaving like that's what happens in this stuff they get you once you think you're going to get out of it easy they're nice to you they're like hey whatever and then before you know it you're trying to get out of it they want to keep making money they start to threaten you and your life is in jeopardy so either way all right we will do more after this