The Josh Innes Show - "Saturday Night" Review and My Own Jealousy

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

We went to see "Saturday Night". If it's possible, I feel like the whole movie was the trailer. I'm a weird person. I'm glad these guys in Dallas are getting some attention for this Jerry Jones interview. But, I'm in the stage now where I'm annoyed by the reaction to it. I'm also jealous for a few reasons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Howdy, Jamokes, what's happening? I'm sitting around this morning at about 10.15, and I've been in a Jim slash James Belushi, or really a James slash Jim Belushi wormhole the last two days. I was watching this movie called Taking Care of Business, which was really not great, with Charles Grodin and Jim James Belushi

where Belushi like breaks out of jail to go watch the Cubs in the World Series but then like takes on the identity of this other guy that's an ad exec and I mean it was it was what it was but then you know Prime recommends another Jim Belushi movie and I'm like well fuck it I'll watch this too so this morning I've been watching Mr. Destiny and one thing is is true these Jim Belushi movies are pretty terrible and I have nothing against him really my favorite Jim Belushi is Jim Belushi in a movie called About Last Night with Rob Lowe and Demi Moore. She's full frontal at one point, like in front of a refrigerator. It's lovely.

And basically, it's the perfect Jim Belushi, which is Jim Belushi in a secondary role where the best is he's telling a story about some chick he hooked up with. And Rob Lowe will ask, well, was she a pro? Well, at this point, we don't know. And that's kind of the only thing I remember from about last night. But the thing that annoys me about these movies is like, basically it's the same movie over and over. Like Jim Belushi, dude from Chicago, Cubs fan, constantly wearing Cubs hats and shirts and everything else.

Like it's like he's the same dude in every movie, and all of the movies kind of suck. They're kind of fine. They're kind of decent. They're not awful. They're just sort of there. Now, speaking of movies that didn't suck and were just sort of there, I would put Saturday Night in that category. We went to see that last night.

I don't know that this is possible, but I feel like the entire movie was in the trailer. I know we talk about this every week that we go to the movies. We'll go to, we'll see a movie on Tuesday on $6 Tuesday or bargain Tuesday at the Marcus cinemas, Marcus theaters. And I'll, I'll come home and I'll go, I feel like the whole movie was in the trailer. I did not know that it was possible

for the whole movie to be in the trailer with this type of movie, but it kind of was, I don't know. I'll have to get your thoughts on this. You can message me or whatever, but that's kind of how I felt watching this movie. I felt like I've seen the whole movie in the trailer because we know that the show gets on air like so like it culminates with the show getting on air and we know that because the show made it to air factually now most of the other shit in this movie was not factual at all which those kind of movies kind of piss me off um not to spoil anything in this but like I'll give you an example like there are scenes when Milton Berle Uncle Miltie Mr. Television is walking around Studio 8H on the

night that Saturday Night Live debuted and he's talking shit to all these you know Chevy Chase Belushi and all these people you know and uh so I went home after the movie I'm like I wonder if that actually happened i look it up nope didn't even remotely happen none of this was true like i i get that you have to take creative liberties and you have to make the movie more interesting than the actual story is well how about this if the story's not fucking interesting then don't just make up a fucking movie and that part bothers me like some things i can deal with like i had a friend of mine who hated the uh rocket man movie with uh it was the uh taron edgerton elton john

fantasy movie that was supposed to be kind of a biopic of elton john's life but in reality it was just kind of like like a. Like he's flying around. Everything's out of order with the chronology and all that. That didn't bother me. It was kind of fun, whatever it was, what it was. But with a movie like this, I'm kind of hoping I'm getting something that's at least kind of factual. Like I went through some stories and there's just countless things that are just made up in this movie. So why the fuck am I watching it?

You know, like why am I watching a movie that's supposed to be about the night that Saturday Night Live debuted and how the process went? And then most of the shit in the movie is not true. Like make a documentary. I need a documentary. And I get that this isn't a documentary. And I'm fine with fudging a few things. Like, there are marquee important moments in biopics over time that you look them up and they're like, yeah, that didn't happen. Like, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that in La Bamba, when they do the coin flip, which did happen, that got Richie on the plane and Big Bopper on the plane and then Waylon Jennings ended up on the bus like I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that there's no for a fact I know that there is nobody who knows that

Buddy Holly looked at a sick Richie Valens and said relax Richie the sky belongs to the stars right and then slaps him I'm sure that didn't happen because nobody is alive to know that it happened so again you can take creative license and you can do some different things in a movie like that or make something slightly more dramatic like i was reading a story by one of johnny cash and june carter's kids wasn't rosanne cash might have been john carter uh john cash or john carter cash or one of them i don't know i think they had a kid named like john jr some shit and uh he's like you know the movie walk the line was a nice movie but like they ignore the fact that my mom like they make it seem like johnny cash spent his life hooked on

pills and that like like she was resisting him the whole time when in reality she was the horn dog that was chasing him and like breaking up his marriage of course that would make for an unappealing movie so they kind of changed it up and that uh that june was like hooked on fucking pills and shit for a long stretches of time but it makes it seem like she's like this straight arrow and johnny cash is this you know was a huge piece of shit which seemingly drug wise-wise he kind of was, drugs, alcohol, that. Wasn't a great dude for long stretches. But apparently she was kind of a piece of shit too, but the movie just ignores that.

So you watch that movie and you go into it thinking you're seeing the truth. Then it's not the truth and that kind of pisses you off a little bit, you know? And I get they got to take some creative license and creative liberty in some of these movies to help move the plot along. And there's some shit that you could say happened, but it didn't happen. But when the whole damn thing is basically fiction, and that's kind of how I felt watching the Saturday Night movie, I'm like, I don't know, man. This just kind of feels like it's like you got to give me some semblance of truth. Like the truth is it was a Saturday night and maybe they weren't going to make it to air that was all in the fucking trailer like i don't know i didn't feel like i got anything out of that movie it was fine it was watchable it wasn't like joker like it wasn't

the joker where i'm sitting there bored shitless i was fine with this movie but i didn't know that it was possible for a movie like that to have everything in the trailer and sure as shit every fucking thing was in the trailer it was bizarre like the like the trailer was the movie so uh i wouldn't tell you to not go see it but i was just sort of like yeah it was fine was what it was i don't know what the next movie we're gonna see is i don't know what's coming out but uh we're going to arkansas this weekend here I guess and what today's Wednesday so on Friday we're driving over to Arkansas to see LSU take on Arkansas which is a game I think they very well could lose after the game they played on Saturday would not shock me they've lost games they shouldn't lose to Arkansas in the past before they've lost game now grab this a long time ago

I mean they've gone to Arkansas and they've lost games. Now, granted, this is a long time ago. I mean, they've gone to Arkansas, and they've lost games. They had no business losing. So I wouldn't even say they have no business losing this. Arkansas is a decent team, and LSU is coming off a gigantic win. They stormed the field, the whole deal. So it's very plausible that they could lose. It's possible that they could lose this. So we'll see, but that's where we're going to be this weekend.

I keep seeing these dudes from Dallas getting all this run for their interview with Jerry Jones. And I go in stages on things like this. Like yesterday I did the pod and I gave you a full 30-minute sort of insider breakdown. Obviously I'm not there, so I don't know every single thing that's happening. But I felt like I had a decent enough perspective because I've kind of lived in situations like that before and I've you know had the same boss that they have so I know how he handles things so I thought that my insight was

at least somewhat unique compared to what other people could offer for that so um with that like I think we did a pretty good pod but it it's interesting because, and I said this in the pod yesterday, that I don't feel like they asked anything tough. They just ask questions. You ask questions, dude goes off on you for asking questions. He's clearly a loose cannon at this point, really pissed off sitting on that one. Fires away, and that becomes the story. But I go in stages and things like this like initially

I'm on your side but then I start getting annoyed right like I'll give you an example Angel Reese I know it's not apples to apples but Angel Reese I've been very defensive of because I think that Angel Reese a is a large part of why anybody gives a shit about women's basketball right now because she got to play the villain and she's black and caitlyn clark is white and the media ate this shit up the clay travises of the world love the white girl the jamelle hills of the world like the black girl and it created this drama that made for solid television and without her you don't get caitlyn clark as she is now because caitlyn clark got to be the damsel in distress. The poor white girl got bullied by the black girl.

And I still believe all that. But as time has gone on, I've been defending Angel like now as I see her more and more, I just I'm annoyed by her. I go in stages like there's different stages I go through with people. I defend them. And then when I realize that they're full of shit too, I start to get annoyed by them. I think Angel Reese is completely full of shit because she wants to be the bad gal.

She wants to be the bad bitch and she wants to be the instigator. But then anytime anybody calls her on the shit, she's like, why do people think I'm a villain and why do people sexualize me? And then she walks around basically naked at rap concert with her ass hanging out. And I'm like, OK, like you can't tell me that people sexualize you. And then you got your cooter hanging out at the rap show.

Like, give me a fucking break. So like now I find myself annoyed by her. Doesn't mean I'm a fan of Caitlin Clark. Doesn't mean I'm a fan of anybody. I don't give a shit about women's basketball. But like, that's how I view this. I go in stages like I'm on your side until i think you've exploited it enough and then i'm kind of like oh you're kind of a hypocrite whatever i'm kind of tired of your shit and that's how i feel about angel

reese at this point i'll still defend her for the initial part which is i think this whole thing became a thing because of the racial component nobody gives a shit about women's basketball they gave a shit about the drama of black girl talking shit to white girl white bread Iowa versus kind of down south dirty south Louisiana you know black white all this shit so that's why that became a thing that opinion's not going to change the opinion that's changed is now I think Angel's completely full of shit and I'm annoyed by her. That's kind of where I'm getting with the Jerry Jones interview thing. I'm all on their side for getting the attention for it as they should. That's why you're on the radio to get attention, to build your brand, to grow. That's why you're there to do it right but i'm the part that's annoying me is the way people are reacting to this as if these dudes on 105.3 the fan are woodward and bernstein clearly i talked about it yesterday i like them i know one of them i'm sure i've talked with the other one i know their boss i know the history of the radio station. I have nothing personal against these guys.

They've done something I would love to do. They've spent well over a decade. I think they've spent like 15 years at the same damn job, give or take. I'd give my left nut to spend 15 years at the same damn job, morning drive and down. They are good at what they do. I commend them. Good job. This is not a knock on them.

My issue is the reaction to this. You would think that this was the most scathing interview ever. And they are now kind of the face of asking tough questions of important figures. Go back and listen to it. It was mostly just solid questions, right? But the way people are reacting to it is thank god somebody asked jerry the tough questions i mean we got and then i'm seeing like big time media people dan patrick national syndicated people like this is why you do it you've got we have a job to to hold these

people to a higher standard and we've got to ask the tough questions the questions weren't tough the fact that we view questions like that as tough is sad we're a pathetic bunch of pussies if just asking basic questions is considered tough is that the world we're in now where like if a guy gets on the radio and asks like hey how do you think you like the job you've done how do you feel about it? That's a tough question. That's what we're doing now? That's considered Woodward and Bernstein shit?

Like, come on. Like, and now I'm at the point where like, I'm totally still on their side, just like I was on Angel's side and still am for why she is the person she is and why women's basketball gets attention. And I'm still on the side of 105.3 The fan and i'm good for them for milking it but like even if i were in that situation i'd have a hard time embracing this idea that like i'm some sort of hero of of sports media because some old

asshole got angry at a very generic question and went off his rocker that's all so that's where I am but that's that's how I go that's how things change for me is like I have a I have I'm here I'm here and then my trajectory changes it I don't do it on purpose it's just my natural reaction to things and that's how it's always been people think I'm a I'm deliberately contrarian. I'm naturally contrarian. I'm like the living embodiment of the devil's advocate. You could get on here today and I could say, my dad's a great guy. And then you could say, yeah, your dad is a wonderful guy. But let me tell you about the bad shit, my dad. I don't know why I'm this way. I'm just a natural devil's advocate. I wouldn't even say contrarian, although they're kind of one in the same, but I'm just a natural devil's advocate. I wouldn't even say contrarian,

although they're kind of one in the same, but I'm just a natural devil's advocate. Like, it's like, I want people to be put in their place with their shitty opinions. And I want to play the opposite side of it naturally. I don't sit back and go watch this. Like people think I sit around and plot that shit out. I don't, I've never done that. It's just I have a natural reaction to people and the reaction is to challenge them by offering the other side of it. It's just kind of how I've always been. Even for teams I fucking like.

That's why I hate moving to places where I actually like the teams. I moved to St. Louis. You know who I fucking hate? My favorite sports team ever, the fucking Cardinals. I don't know why I'm broken. I don't know what to tell you. But back to those guys. I also, there's a like real talk. There is a certain jealousy I feel of this because I consider myself to be a spectacular interviewer who asks pretty

good questions. I mean, I've gotten some, like, if you go back and listen to some of the shit I did in Philadelphia, like we used to interview, you know, Malcolm Jenkins. There was one time when like Malcolm basically admitted that he went back into the game with a concussion. And we had a long line of questioning on that that I thought was good. You know, we did great interviews with Jeff Luno when I was in Houston. I thought the interviews we did with Gary Kubiak were interesting. But somehow the only shit I do

that makes news is negative. Like I guarantee you somehow if I would have been the guy interviewing Jerry Jones and he gets pissed off, the reaction would have been, good, put shitty radio guy in his place and my bosses would have been embarrassed.

These guys are like being held up as like the gold standard of fucking interviewing. And then what happens is it sounds like I'm shitting on them and I'm not. I'm just shitting on the reaction. These guys are being held up as the gold standard of fucking interviewing. And then what happens is it sounds like I'm shitting on them, and I'm not. I'm just shitting on the reaction. I looked at one of these websites that was kind of aggregating all the media reactions to these guys. It's like they're the saviors of sports media in some way.

Really, an interview is only as good as the interviewee. The person being interviewed has to make the interview good you could ask a billion great questions the interview the person being interviewed the subject of the interview has to be receptive and they have to give you good answers and then you have to be able to respond the only thing i wish they would have done different is i wish they would have gone back at him a little because i I think what happened here is, in a way, they kind of become victims, too. Like, oh, these guys got their job threatened by the big bad billionaire. Like, I want to know what would have happened if they would have gone back at him in, like, a cool collected way, but been like, hey, Jerry, like, your team is getting blown out at home three games in a row.

You're not very good right now do you think it'd be a good look for you to come on the radio and get two dudes bounce from their job because your team stinks do you think that's a good look for you and at the end of the day the other thing is people make it sound like he'd go out and get them fired from their job which odyssey ain't gonna fire those guys because jerry jones doesn't like them i don't believe what would happen is there's a possibility that they could move that interview to a different day part, like in Houston where they bring in the play-by-play guy to interview. I don't think that would happen in Dallas because Dallas is a far more legitimate

sports media market than Houston is. So I don't think there'd be a scenario where you're listening to the morning show in Dallas and then the next thing you hear is, uh, you know, Oh, sorry, we got to leave for 20 minutes while Brad sham, the voice of the Cowboys interviews, the coach, the Cowboys give access to people, my boy in San Antonio, AJ, he interviews Mike McCarthy every week, their afternoon show interviews, Steven, uh, Jones every week. And they're not, they don't have, they're not the flagship. They're down San Antonio.

They have the Spurs and that's it. So either way, I do possess a bit of a jealousy when I see people getting positive reaction for shit they do. When I feel like everything I've ever fucking done has gotten a negative reaction. And I'm jealous that their boss

is like 100% gung-ho on their side going, fuck yeah, I guarantee if that shit would have happened to me working at 790 in Houston, I would have been fucking reamed for something like that. Look, I do possess a little bit of jealousy. I can acknowledge that I'm jealous of the defense that people, like people riding to their defense on a white horse and saying, oh my God, these guys are like the bastions of free speech and sports media.

Thank God people like this exist. It annoys me to a degree because there is a part of me that is that make me a narcissist. Well, I'm a weird. I'm a self-loathing narcissist, a narcissist. It's like to a degree, like nine times out of ten i kind of hate myself but then like i also think i'm the biggest shit in the world as i sit here in a pair of underwear that have crawfish on them shirtless in bed at 10 35 in the morning on a wednesday doing a podcast there's still a part of me that believes i'm the best shit on the planet and then there's another part of me in

the same breath that thinks what the fuck you're a dope so that's the abcs of me i don't know what to tell you this is just who i am but credit to them for milking it man like they're out there talking all this shit and their boss is letting them do it i guarantee if that happened at 790 in houston when i was there and let's say it was i don't know daryl mori or somebody with some sort of impact the owner owner at the time, I guess, was still Les Alexander, but let's say Tillman or someone. Let's say Tillman lost his shit on me on the radio. First of all, the whole Houston world would be on Tillman's side

because Houston, that's just how Houston is. When me and Daryl went back and forth, they were all on fucking Daryl's side. That's just the way it was. But if that were to happen, then my bosses would be like, just shut the fuck up and don't say anything about it. The Rockets are pissed. Whereas my old boss in would be like, just shut the fuck up and don't say anything about it. The rockets are pissed. Whereas my old boss in Dallas is like, I guarantee he's like, fucking go for it.

Let's go. And his boss is saying, good, go for it. Like they don't want to jeopardize their relationship with the Cowboys. But at the end of the day, and there, here's a bit of a conspiracy theory. If you want it, Jerry probably likes all this fucking attention. Jerry's always liked the attention. you know what this attention is doing kind of distracting from the fact that the cowboys suck so maybe he likes it i don't know hey you see that uh aaron rogers has been reunited with his boy davante adams davante adams has a weird kink and that kink is playing for shitty teams

that have no chance of winning so he goes from the raiders he liked the idea of playing with the saints allegedly until his boyfriend got hurt and the saints have now lost four in a row so now he's riding on over to uh new york to play with aaron rogers who stinks so like i it's going to continue to be a disaster there and it's cute to watch i thoroughly enjoy it. There's not a lot of stuff going on like actual football wise right now. We'll get to some bets. We'll do some bets here in the next couple of days, some prop bets and some other stuff. I do think the Texans are going to lose to the Packers this week and I think the Packers are going to be able to make big plays against them. I still don't buy the Texans secondary completely, and the Packers

are a team that can be explosive, so I think the Texans are going to lose. They're going to be 5-2. I think the Colts are going to win. The Colts are going to be at that point, what, 4-3, 5-3, I think, before they meet. So I think they're 4-3 now. So are they 4-3? No, that doesn't make sense. Either way, no, they're three and three. So if they're going to win that, I think they're going to be four and three. Texans are going to be five and two. And they're playing for a share of first place next Sunday in Houston. But we'll talk about that more.

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