The Josh Innes Show - Sunday Recap

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All righty. As promised, football conversation. Now, the game that just ended not too long ago was the matchup between the Washington Commanders and the, wait, what are you? The arch doesn't look like that also. No, we're still watching the local news and no, it does not.
Starting point is 00:00:20 It never looks that bright, but they illuminate. It's like a fucking LED beam. Yeah, they're full of shit on the news. Lots of lies in the media, in the lamestream media. But anyway, so the Commander Skins in overtime defeat Atlanta. I did hit a couple of plays on that game, including the over in the passing yards for Michael Penix, which was a bit of a miracle,
Starting point is 00:00:42 and the rushing yards for Jayden Daniels, but I missed a parlay in that one. Jilly also missed a parlay in that one that really crushed her soul. By three yards, Darnell Mooney, and the whole game I had kind of given up on him. Honestly, we were both watching, but I don't know when he made that 25-yard catch.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Nope. But all I needed was three more yards from Darnell Mooney, so I feel like if they could have got the ball in overtime, he would have got it. But also I'm rooting for Jaden and the commanders. So whatever. What were you just telling me about all the money that Zach Ertz made from this game?
Starting point is 00:01:13 This is crazy. Zach Ertz made $750,000 tonight. Tell me how. He made $250,000 for the catch, the touchdown catch. Another $250,000 for going over 600 receiving yards this season and another 250 K for catching 60 plus passes this season, all on his mom's birthday. Boy.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Now, if I would've known it was his mom's birthday and that there were all these incentives that he could meet, then maybe I would have bet on him. Now, my favorite thing is when you find these websites that on the last week of the year kind of lay out who all is trying to hit incentives to get money. And those are the guys to usually bet on. Like, I'll tell you this. Tampa has to win this week, right? They still have to win.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yes. They're facing the Saints. And Mike Evans needs like 100-something yards, I think, or a little over 100 to get to 1,000 for like the 10th season in a row or whatever the number is. Baker has said he wants to get him to that number. Which I find funny because I get that 1,000 yards sounds good, but at the end of the day it's like you're putting it – But in 12 consecutive seasons or whatever? Well, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I mean, it just shows that you're not getting injured and you're playing and all that. But my point is 1,000 yards is only like 60-something yards a game. So it's not like that much. I mean, I couldn't do it. But like it's not that big of a deal but he wants to hit that number and today he put up nearly 100 I think he'll put up 100 in the last game of the year because they have to win it is a must win scenario for them so if it's a must win scenario and he wants to hit his incentives and his quarterback
Starting point is 00:02:39 wants to get him his numbers they're going to get him and the Saints are fucking dreadful so and they're at home so they should be able to sling it against the Saints in the last game of the year and get those 100 yards. So I would take Mike Evans for over 100 yards. I don't know what the numbers are already or what the odds are, but I would take over 100 receiving yards for Mike Evans in the last game of the year. That is something that I would certainly do so uh just write that one down kids make sure you write that down that that's what we're shooting for there when people are talking about a Saquon because he's only what 101 yard chart uh short of the record but there's absolutely no reason other than for him to get the record for him to do that but it's his former team he's talked about how he hated that situation like
Starting point is 00:03:24 if he's gonna do it it's gonna be against the Giants and I get all that and it's his former team he's talked about how he hated that situation like if he's gonna do it it's gonna be against the Giants and I get all that and it all makes sense and it all sounds great but still there is no reason for him to play like are you like you're the number two seed you're gonna be the number two seed you're trying to win a Super Bowl you need Saquon Barkley to win the Super Bowl I just don't see a scenario where they're like, hey, let's give it a shot. Like one bad blow, he's out. Now, it is different being that it's trying to set an all-time record, although you could argue it's not really an all-time record
Starting point is 00:03:55 because he's playing an extra game as opposed to Dickerson. Yeah, but Dickerson's the same thing. He's like, well, when I broke it, OJ played one less game. Which is fair. Look, a record's a record. They're not like, well, when I broke it, like, OJ played one less game. Which is fair. Look, a record's a record. They're not going to put an asterisk next to it or anything like that. So it's probably going to be a record. So if you're talking all-time records, then maybe you do it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And it's his former team. That, to me, is what sets it over the edge. And all that's fair, but the game is absolutely meaningless. And I don't know that Sirianni like despite the fact the guy all he does is win I mean right like the guy is like well over 500 as a coach he's been to the playoffs every year he's coached the Eagles I don't know that Sirianni would ever live it down if they said you know we're gonna do we're gonna let Saquon go out and try to break an individual record like set a personal record be an all-time rushing leader and then he blows out his achilles or something in the game and then he's not there for the playoffs and he is the
Starting point is 00:04:48 most important player they have on the team so same time he's gonna get shit if he doesn't play him and like oh say cone could have broke this individual record like what the fuck is sirianni doing like he's gonna get shit either way well if you're damned if you do and damned if you don't then don't run the risk of getting the guy hurt. That's all I would say. So, like, I probably wouldn't do it. I would ask, you know what I would do? I would ask the player. I'd say, listen, if it matters to you and it's important to you to break this record
Starting point is 00:05:12 and you want to do it, then do it. And I think that's why he would, because it's against the Giants. And if it were just like an individual record or like a personal goal, like when Adam Wainwright wanted to win 200 games and none of that mattered. This is an all-time, this is the all-time this is the all-time rushing leader against your former team a team that sucks
Starting point is 00:05:29 and you could probably rush for 104 in the first half if you really wanted to yeah no I look I'm all for it I would take it if he's playing I will take it if he wants to play let him play I mean that's really what are you gonna do like you out there, you tell the world we're letting him play because he wants to try to set a record. Now, if you say that he's playing because he wants to break a record, you put a target on him as well. And the Giants have nothing to play for except to knock motherfuckers out. So, I don't know. Knock the Colts out today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I just mean, like, knocking individuals out. Like, they can go out there and try to lay the fucking wood to you and say, oh, to try to break a record on us well fuck you you know so i don't know i um i'd like to see it like it's so wild that we're sitting here in 2024 where everything's about passing and there's a guy that could set the all-time single season rushing record in this era which is saying something uh dude's been dynamic so 2000 alone is pretty fucking impressive. You always got that. Yes, but still, I mean, dude, 2,000 yards in this era is something. So either way, if he does play, then take his over. Now, would it be a situation where they give him a half to get it done? Like, all right, go out there.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You got a half. We want to get you guys some work. If you get it done in a half, great. If not, we're pulling you at halftime. There's a risk, but I think that I'd i'd like to see it it'd be fun to see so uh what else is going on in the world over there so we got the schedule we've got the schedule for week 18 it came out right after the game here uh that ended just a little while ago and um we should have some look joe is still alive that's something that's
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Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay. Alright. When a Coors Light is cold enough, the mountains on the can turn blue. So the next time you want a cold lager, cold filter, cold package, Coors Light. Just wait until those glorious
Starting point is 00:10:01 mountains on the can turn blue. Woo! It's easy to say that fast when you're freezing cold. All right, what do we got on that schedule for week 18? So the Saturday games are all AFC North, which is fun. The Browns and the Ravens are first at 3.30 Central. So the Browns and the Ravens, obviously the Browns are playing for nothing. The Ravens, if they win, they'll win the division, right? They have not clinched the division yet. They have not, but if they win, they will. I think that Pittsburgh would have to get a
Starting point is 00:10:30 Ravens loss because I think the tiebreaker belongs to the Ravens in that case. So it would have to be a situation where the Ravens lose and the Steelers win. So we can basically look at this and say that the Ravens are going to win the division and they're going to have a home plate no they're going to look the Dolphins played the Browns at home and scored three fucking points so I don't think the Ravens are going to be held in check by these guys like that they're going to win they'll probably have the game won by halftime and so the Ravens are going to win the division and the Steelers very likely could be playing the Texans in the first round they could also drop down to the six because they're playing the Bengals who are playing for their lives, which, again, back to the Browns, sucks that the Browns could not win today and meet the Dolphins without Tua.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And why that matters is for the Bengals. And as we've talked about on the pod, we are rooting for the Bengals. Like, why wouldn't you root for the Bengals? If you just want to watch good, fun football teams that are fun to bet on and fun players, why the fuck wouldn't you want to watch the Bengals and watch Joe and watch Jamar and watch T and watch that whole damn team that Chase Brown, even though he's injured, but they're fun to watch. So, like, basically why this matters is for the Bengals to get in,
Starting point is 00:11:40 they would have needed a loss from the Colts, they've got a loss from so the Colts are out yeah like the Colts went out and lost their game to the Giants so the Giants played their best offensive game ever today way to go Malik by the way NFLSU parlay hit for like the fifth straight week let's go in and that was a miracle in and of itself sort of uh but um and then we also need a loss from the Dolphins and that doesn't mean the Dolphins, if they win out, are going to get in. But it means that if they do, that means Cincinnati, the Bengals need to win. And they need to get a loss from the Dolphins. And they need to get a loss from the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:12:16 This is a lot. Oh, yes. It's not going to happen. I hope it does. Because, dude, I took so much joy watching Sean Payton lose that game the other night. Look, when Sean Payton retires, I'll love him. I'll say thanks for everything you did for the Saints. You're fucking great.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Ring of Honor, whatever shit, maybe the Pro Football Hall of Fame, whatever it is, you're going to go in and I will respect you. And no one's going to remember you as the fucking coach of the Broncos. They're going to remember you as the coach of the Saints. And that's beautiful. And that's great. But as of today, you're not the coach of the Saints. You're a son of a bitch who left and left us with nothing and now you're over there with your new
Starting point is 00:12:49 family and you're thriving I hope you never win a playoff game ever and that's I would love it if you didn't even make the fucking playoffs I know it's probably not going to happen because the Chiefs aren't going to play anybody but Carson Wentz that's the thing there are far worse people I mean it ain't like they're playing Dorian Thompson Robinson, right? They're out there playing a dude that should have won the 2017 MVP. So Carson Wentz isn't dog shit. He's got a good coach.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So it's not like it's going to be a walkover. Do they have a line out for that game yet? I'm curious because obviously both teams are, I mean, I would assume that you're going to see I mean, you're going to see Bowe, obviously, but you're going to see Bowe versus Carson. So I would imagine there's a line out for that.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, the Broncos are minus eight and a half. I think we're winning. I think we, being the Chiefs, are winning, especially if the pressure's on the Broncos on Sunday, knowing that there was a victory from the Bengals. What's the Bengals' line? That game's in Pittsburgh, I would imagine, right? So I would say...
Starting point is 00:13:58 In Pittsburgh, the Bengals are two-and-a-half-point favorites. We're winning that. Russ ain't doing shit. That offense ain't doing shit. Bengals are going to go out there and sling last time these two teams played in cincinnati was spectacular but the other thing that matters is the dolphins are also two and a half point favorites at the jets you know what i think the jets are going to win that especially considering that aaron rogers just played a god-awful game and that team just played a god-awful game like this isn't again
Starting point is 00:14:21 this isn't the door the dtr browns i mean, it's still Aaron Rodgers who has the ability to do things. It's still Devontae Adams. It's still Wilson. Like they still have players. So it's not like they're playing some dopes. And I would imagine Aaron Rodgers is going to play because why not? Yeah, but I also assume that Tua will probably be back. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It'll be a slugfest. They can go out there and sling it all around the yard. But I think it's a game that could be won by the Jets. So I'm not writing that off. Obviously, the bigger concern is trying to get the Broncos to get a victory over the Chiefs, which is far less likely. No, the Chiefs over the Broncos. Yes, well, we need the Chiefs to beat the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Correct. So, which I would love to see. Now, granted, none of that may matter if the Bengals end up losing. It won't matter if the Bengals end up losing. But the Bengals are going to win. They're going to beat Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh's falling off a cliff. And Joe is playing his fucking dick off right now. So let's rock.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I don't know where the Texans go if that happens. If the Steelers lose and the Chargers win, I believe the Chargers get the five. And then you get Justin Herbert at Reliant or NRG. Yeah. I don't know. I think either way they're losing. I guess you would say they have a better shot of beating Pittsburgh. You because Ladd McConkie's out here doing big shit you look at Pittsburgh on the other hand and and homeboys melting down like he always does the white
Starting point is 00:15:32 pickings so even though he's playing he's melting down um and you're not getting as as good a play from Russ as you were getting from Russ so it's a very possible thing here that that you face the Steelers and you could beat them but I just would not take them to beat them for some reason Shawn Michaels is on the news here oh is this sports plus god these local sports shows so why are they like what are they promoting like there's no is there like Monday Night Raw coming here or something I don't think so are they like basically trying to get people to drive over from St. Louis to Indianapolis for the Royal Rumble? I have no idea because now we're on to Mizzou. So I guess that was a tease. Like, hey, coming up, we're going to talk with the Heartbreak Kid with HBK.
Starting point is 00:16:18 HBK Shawn Michaels is going to join us. But first, we have to talk about the Music City Bowl game with Mizzou taking on Iowa in the Music City Bowl. But, yeah. And so as far as your bets went today, you hit a couple, though. I did. I hit two, amazingly, on FanDuel. Yeah, I had a couple. I'm fairly certain I hit the total touchdowns in the games today.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I haven't seen an update on it. But I always like to take the total touchdowns scored the games today. I haven't seen an update on it, but I always like to take the total touchdown scored because why not? And I think there were plenty of touchdowns scored. And then I did the NFLSU parlay and for like three quarters, all I needed was 80 receiving yards from Justin Jefferson. And Justin Jefferson was doing nothing for like three quarters and then was just kind of picking a little bit here like five yards here whatever's doing nothing and then boom ended up with like a hundred yards today and so that hit a parlay for me the NFL issue parlay kids it just it's the gift that keeps on giving that's like four or five weeks in a row
Starting point is 00:17:18 my sister keeps hitting parlays because I keep sending her parlays that I don't play for myself I just go oh this will seems like it works I've sent her parlays that I don't play for myself I just go oh this one seems like it works I've sent her two now uh bat and she's gone like hey send me a parlay so yesterday I sent her a parlay and wouldn't you know what that son of a bitch hit too so mine that hit I had one that was plus 565 which was Chig Okonkwo over Brian Thomas Jr over over 70. And Brock Bowers over 70. That hit. And my other one was Foster Moreau over 20. Brock Bowers 60. Jonathan Taylor 80 rushing yards. Mike Evans 70 receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And Calvin Ridley 50 receiving yards. That was plus 872. And I actually put like $8 on that. Look at that. So last night I had the parlay for my sister that hit. I forgot what she needed to hit. Oh, you know what it was? It was like Puka Nakua was part of it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I needed to cut. Yeah, I needed, which he just crushed. But I needed a Puka Nakua at 80 yards and a touchdown from Kyron Williams to cap off her parlay that involved legs from all three games, which of course hit. I also had the Bo Nix 200, which was a miracle. That's true. But dude, I had a bunch. I also had the Bo Nix 200, which was a miracle. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:25 But dude, I had a bunch of things that had to happen in that game, including I needed 550 passing yards between Bo Nix and Joe. And it seemed completely unlikely that it was going to, oh no, it's not Bo Nix and Joe. It was Bo Nix and, no, Joe and- No, it was Joe Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh shit, it was. Yeah, duh. And I'm hammered, I guess. Maybe I'm no, Joe, and. No, it was Joe Bo Nix. Oh, shit, it was. Yeah, duh. And I'm hammered, I guess. Maybe I'm not, maybe I am, I don't know. But I needed it, and the overtime and everything hit, man, was a miracle. You talk about a miracle to get to 550 combined yards. That, friends, was a miracle. And I enjoy when miracles happen like that.
Starting point is 00:19:03 We had a couple like that today that looked dead. Like Brock Bowers Bowers looked dead and then boom Brock Bowers ends up with like 80 yards Justin Jefferson looks dead boom ends up with damn near 100 yards Chigga Conquo who the whole world was like take Chigga Conquo Jilly was like you got to take Chigga Conquo from the Titans I'm like sure I will fine and I take it and 38 and a half yards he's sitting at zero for the first half comes out in the second half balls out uh calvin ridley did the same thing you doubted me on chig for sure i did i doubted it big time but then boom he comes through so a lot of people come through in a big way for us especially in the second half next week we gotta go back to uh btj right oh yeah because he wants like he's not
Starting point is 00:19:46 going to win rookie of the year but that's like a quest of his and um oh yeah he's gonna do that he's all they got he balls out hard man man doesn't quit apparently had a rib injury and he's like fuck you doug i'm playing and then and by the way another good play for him is his long reception which he hit today uh another one that i played was Jawan Johnson of the Saints for his receiving yards, and I took his longest catch, which hit today. I'm most upset at myself because I wanted to put in just Foster Morrow. Morrow? Morrow?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah. How do we say his name? Foster Morrow. Morrow? Yeah. For the Saints to score a Tud, and I forgot to do it just by itself. It was plus 850 today, and I forgot to do it just by itself. It was plus 850 today, and he was their only touchdown.
Starting point is 00:20:29 We suck. Not we, me and you. No, we don't suck. Foster Morrow, the Saints suck. Foster Morrow does not suck. No, he's a god currently. Foster Morrow, I think, has their last three touchdowns. No, he's a baller.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm pretty sure like the last three touchdowns the Saints have scored have maybe been from him. Yeah, they're not good. Because that one, remember, when they scored and then they missed the two-point conversion? Yeah. Was that not Foster Murrow? I believe it was. So I'm pretty sure like their last three tuds were all him.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Pretty strong. And yet he was plus 850 today? Yeah. Not for first Tudds, just any time Tudds. Yep, 850 and it hit. He was the only Tudds. Do you think the Texans have a chance to win their playoff game? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Do you think the Texans have a chance to defeat the Titans in the final game of the season? I hope so, and I think they need to play their guys. You can't just limp into the playoffs after last week at Baltimore. You can't rest your guys. Your guys suck. They need to go out and play. I would agree with that, but I feel like they're going to.
Starting point is 00:21:35 They might play them a half. But if you didn't get it right in 17 games, what are you going to figure out against the fucking Titans? You need to get some momentum. You need to go out there and beat the fuck out of the Titans. Go out there and put, like, let's get a 40 to 7 beatdown. Something. You have to do that.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It would be nice. But again, what would it prove? Nothing. It's momentum. That's what it proves. You get momentum. You feel good about yourself. Do you think they feel good about themselves after scoring two points against the fucking Ravens?
Starting point is 00:22:03 No. No, I think you're accurate there. They need a game with like we got this we can do this I mean yes it's against the Titans but still go out and score like 45 against them beat the fuck out of them I think your point's valid I'm on your side I just uh I don't know McNair hates them yeah and the only game that they care about winning, their owner cares about winning, Amy Adams Strunk. Apparently she just loves to beat Houston. Doesn't matter that the team's up.
Starting point is 00:22:30 They lost to them last time, so you've got to go out there and beat the fuck out of them. Play your guys. Oh, you make it hurt. Maybe. But no, you need some momentum. We need some sort of optimism here. Go out there and beat the shit out of the Titans.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Is there any doubt that no matter who they're playing, that they will be playing that Saturday 3 o'clock game again? No, that's the tradition. That is the Texans slot, especially if they're playing the Chargers. It's going to be the Chargers or the Steelers, and I feel like either one will be that game. I don't foresee that being a scenario where you're going to be in that slot. Only at noon on Sunday are the Texans, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And that completely meaningless game, other than finding their mojo, I guess. Yeah. What other games matter in that one? Well, so the Saturday games, as we said, are the Browns and the Ravens at 3.30 and the Bengals and the Steelers at 7 Central. Yep. Sunday, here's the meaningless 1 o'clock. The Giants and the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But that's not going to be meaningless if you want to bet on Malik neighbors to go out and ball, unless the Giants finally decide to stop playing, because they won a game that they didn't need to win today because they're trying to get the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, they just cost themselves the number one pick. Correct. So, I mean, look, I know you can't tell a bunch of professionals to not go out and fucking win, but winning did not help the greater good of the organization.
Starting point is 00:23:45 At this moment, the Patriots have the number one pick, and they are playing at 1 o'clock as well, or noon, against the Bills. And the Bills shouldn't even let Josh Allen or anybody see the field in that game because there's absolutely no reason to. No, they don't need the mojo. The Texans do. So Texans and Titans. Panthers and Falcons is meaningful
Starting point is 00:24:02 because the Falcons would have to win to stay alive. Correct commanders and cowboys commanders have already clinched um they could move up in seating bears and packers is also at that time packers washington is the two yeah battling for six or seven maybe the packers need to find their mojo a little bit too um well it's against the bears so they probably can yeah well yeah the Bears, they want to beat them just so they can say they beat the Packers. And there's the Jaguars and the Colts. We like Brian Thomas Jr. The Saints and the Bucs are also
Starting point is 00:24:34 at one. Again, that's a big game for the Bucs. They have to win. Correct. There's a couple meaningful games in the 1 o'clock slate. Not much, though. Or 12 o'clock slate. Whatever time zone you're in. The 325s are the Chiefs and the Broncos. Obviously, that's Not much, though. Or 12 o'clock slate, whatever time zone you're in. The 325s are the Chiefs and the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Obviously, that's a big one, depending what happens Saturday with the Bengals. But it could also mean absolutely nothing. It could mean nothing. The Chargers and the Raiders, that's for seeding. The Dolphins and the Jets could mean a lot. Could also mean absolutely nothing. The 49ers and Cardinals, I don't know why that's here. It's just because they're both playing on the west coast they don't want to play a game at 10 in the morning on the on the west coast the seahawks and rams i think the rams already clinched
Starting point is 00:25:14 the vision correct yeah i think the rams are in seahawks are eliminated and then so then the sunday night game with the vikings and the lions and that should be fun because no matter what happens in the game tomorrow night or Monday night, no matter what happens, the Lions will be playing for the division and for the first round by the number one seed when they play the Vikings on next Sunday night. So there you go. All right. We are off and we will reconvene at another time.

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